Can I actually WIN with Pressure Points?! | Ascension 20 Watcher Run | Slay the Spire

[@marcaek5989]

"Imagine Lifting when you could upgrade pressure points" things I never thought I'd hear, and yet

[@sitorinika]

Going through this vod made me totally prepared for jorbs to take pressure points just because of chat's argument, but to my surprise it actually seemed like he thought it to be a good decision to take it. Very very cool!

[@er4795]

loved this flying sleeves deck

[@flaskeyboredom5942]

Great Defend+ deck

[@AndyManX1226]

You cannot make this up. Jorbs leading a long conversation about what it means to make "an X deck" by beginning with a talk about an infinite where he arbitrarily chose to use PP to deal damage. And then what happens in the run? Well...

[@lucast2212]

Came here to say the same thing. It was not only a long conversation, it was a borderline condescending one.

[@Dynomite42]

And yet, his point still holds true. This was an infinite deck that used pressure points to do damage, not a pressure point deck that happened to go infinite. The deck can work without pressure points but it can't work without the infinite.

[@lucast2212]

@@Dynomite42 You and Jobs are approaching it logically. Yet it is about language, choice of words. Since when is language primarily governed by logic?

[@mtaur4113]

I got Minimalist with Rampage, Uppercut, Double Tap, Shrug, Pommel Strike. Kind of a Rampage deck.

[@Drecon84]

Love those Act 1 moments of: let's plan out next turn... oh wait, it's lethal.

[@RCTricking]

#JustWatcherThings

[@krasudreal3948]

Shell-shaped pasta is called CONCHIGLIE

[@balijosu]

Lots of people understand what a Rampage deck is.

[@midn8588]

And yet, its not a very useful understanding.

[@balijosu]

@@midn8588 Nor is moving the goalposts useful.

[@noggu2415]

i mean this was a clearly flurry deck

[@brianformica2599]

the real question is: how will Jorbs fight the Awakened with NO POWERS to play during phase 1?

[@joshmartin84]

I understand a rampage deck

[@antoniovitelli8049]

After the claws now pressure point, awesome

[@aseo9524]

Foiled again by the weeb's sleight of hand. Curses

[@pallingtontheshrike6374]

tcg experience, calling a deck one word gives you a vague idea of how the user should plan and strategize with or against the deck. Not nearly as useful for spirelikes, but say in mtg you have a burn deck, that means you expect direct damage spells, and you plan on shooting your opp with as many as you can, or say you have x y z combo, that means your typical MO is to play one of the combo pieces or look for one you’re missing and more or less ignore everything else. by stifling whatever the thing is, you’ve removed all your opp’s reliable wincons, and put yourself in a better position, at least before they sideboard. but when all the “wincons” devolve into more or less the same thing, like in sts, where every wincon boils down to “deal damage and kill all the opps before they kill you,” this distinction becomes incredibly hazy. notably, there’s a lot of caveats and vaguer categories, even in say mtg, and these categories typically have a kicker card/cards to say “this variant of this type.” As for why, why do people reduce op amps to a simple triangle? why do people slap a rectangle, write 555 on it, and call it a day? it’s for compression reasons, getting a detailed enough model to work with without it being too detailed. not bringing in quantum mechanics for a human scale physics problem. regardless, it shouldn’t be called a Rampage deck, but, akin to “rushdowm infinite,” a rampage cycle/rampage redraw deck, to basically say it is a relatively thin redraw/cycling deck that uses rampage for its damage.

[@pallingtontheshrike6374]

also also, this saying not all heuristics are useful is a bit odd, because if it’s not useful it’s not a heuristic but something like a red herring. a heuristic by definition has some limited scope where it’s useful, but how limited this scope is varies greatly. so.

[@forcefulstorm6187]

!dig

[@Ciapciaq]

Aghhh! How could you do that! I come to see a cool Pressure Points deck and what i see?! Disgusting standard attempt to create Stance Swap Infinite by removing cards! What a Shame! 50:44 The tech is acquired.

[@LnDxLeo]

Thanks god game UI is big enough to see pressure points on YT time bar preview...

[@linusBOSS]

Jorbs you are pro 👍

[@TruePirateKing12]

Pressure points is one of my favorite cards.

[@wormcemetery]

y'all are just talking past the other person and arguing in bad faith. to "feature" a card (OR ANYTHING ELSE) it means you are preparing an environment for that thing to succeed. Just like a museum curator featuring art, that art could be replaced with thousands of different art pieces and it would still be the same thing, but it does not mean the art is not being "featured". A musician performing a live show often has dozens of people working behind the scenes to prepare that environment, and that musician could be swapped out for any other and it would be the same thing, but that artist is still being "featured". It is not wrong in any of these situations to say that the thing being featured is supported by many other things that are structurally more important than the specific thing in that slot. We can reduce any and everything down to "things have features and those features serve a purpose" if we want but that's just boring? Idk it's just little stories we are telling ourselves about what we are experiencing, if you don't want to engage in that you don't have to but to pretend it doesn't make any sense just because you don't find value in it is just weird. Somebody in the chat during this said "relevant is a matter of perspective if fun is a higher priority then rampage is the relevant feature" and I very much agree with this.

[@karusii364]

このサムネイルの男はマッサージをしてもらっているのか？

[@jaakbonenstaak8041]

essentially, I'm right, Jorbs is right, and everyone else is wring

[@MrPickleEdits]

The whole debate about how calling a deck after 1 card is really dumb like with the rampage deck would be far better if 2 days earlier he titled his video about a "devotion deck"

[@xTobsecretx]

Platonic butt enjoyers sound like some chad bodybuilding group that also is a barbershop quartet.

[@unclefred3128]

I think your channel might be a bit too advanced for me. I'm too new lol

[@Skye305]

Wild

[@tomjackal5708]

lmao nice

[@bruh-dy8co]

If you read this comment, you will become a weeb.

[@sugardickcharles]

Dam !

[@rayanal-shikhi140]

I missed you

[@eldorondable]

Pipikaka

[@incognitow3021]

Oooh I'm commenting early on that one, posted 15 minutes ago when I start, will it pog ?

[@Ohioluigi1]

I think everybody understands what a “rampage” deck pretty much means, but Jorbs is pretending to not understand to prove his point. Idk why it’s so offensive to say that certain decks heavily rely on certain cards, and sometimes those cards define the deck.

[@szelitzkyerick7456]

But Rampage can be changed with at least 2 other cards (Anger and Blood for Blood and achieve the same result), the point of the deck is exhausting and drawing as many cards as possible, and replaying the same attack at the end. What makes Rampage special?

[@OLExGREG]

I don't know, I feel like it can make some sense when you say something like "exhaust deck", but doesn't really make sense unless basically the whole deck revolves around that thing. Rampage is never that thing. It's just an attack that does damage lol.

[@cdyounger88]

it would be better to say the cards that let you play rampage lots of times such as dark embrace and coruption, or the other cards that actually make it happen

[@therealwillsmith]

@@szelitzkyerick7456 Not true, rampage's scaling may very well be necessary for your deck to win, been in that situation several times in fact, in decks where I exhaust things to finitely redraw rampage with dark embrace, replacing it with any other card would mean not having enough damage and losing. It's a deck focused around playing rampage to win, not just exhausting cards.

[@keroppiandyyuen]

​​@@therealwillsmith You could have also go infinite, get some strength, barricade entrench body slam etc. Rampage is what you end up did damange with, and yes it could have been the only viable option you were offered that run. However, the defining feature of the deck is still exhausting/ removing buttload of cards to play something over and over. I would say it is a exhaust/small deck rather than rampage deck.

[@UnGeekCommeUnAutre]

What a click bait ! I'm stopping midway as even in turn 29 of the game, he still doesn't even have 1 pressure point, and when offered doesn't take it... seriously, stop with the stupid click bait Jorbs!