Can I Fix Veilguard with Good Writing and Choices?

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SoulGamesInc

SoulGamesInc

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@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
An alternative title for this video is "Can I Fix Dragon Age Veilguard by Making it a Fucking RPG?" :D but you can check out Dragon Age Total War here! - www.moddb.com/mods/dragon-age-total-war1 & check out the new Wiki that refuses to call Veilguard canon! - dragonage.miraheze.org/wiki/The_World_of_Thedas_Wiki 💖Support my Channel💖via kzbin.info/door/bBednupiT5DXrzZWjjnKtQjoin
@eestiny9734
@eestiny9734 2 күн бұрын
They are even not impactful option dialogues that make the background meaningful. Even if you pick Veil Jumper. Rook will act as if he has no knowledge of elven or Veil Jumpers culture.
@theazhang997
@theazhang997 2 күн бұрын
Would u Consider, to make a audiobook style of it????
@RandomWandrer
@RandomWandrer 2 күн бұрын
I can live with Rook being a nice guy. But I struggled to accept no racism or slavery when I played a city elf shadow dragon. I did however think the main story (and history/lore about elves and dwarves) was fantastic. I do wish the origines were playable. Veilguard isn't really an RPG, rather a cinematic action game with a few big choices. I did really love and enjoy the game. But if they had done as you say in your video then everyone would have loved it.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
@eestiny9734 Yeah you could remove Backgrounds entirely and you'd never notice their absence lol
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
@theazhang997 We'll see :) I've thought about doing Lore videos before, for now I plan on replaying the old DA's
@Linkadion
@Linkadion 2 күн бұрын
Youre Grey Warden Origin has already more depth than the entierty of Veilgaurd itself XD
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
I thought so, and it's hardly even that complex of an Origin really; just serves as a means to provide the player with a stage to start building their character upon - doesn't have to be all that amazing a start - just needs to allow the player the chance to make early decisions that'll shape who they'll become etc. What this all boils down to is really "What If Veilguard was a fucking RPG" lmao
@Mgauge
@Mgauge 2 күн бұрын
@@Linkadion That's because they knew that they couldn't afford to rewrite the Wardens nearly as much as they did the others. Especially not with how they sanitized the Crows. Or their new "Veil Jumper" creation which was carefully designed to have as little character as possible. That said, I have heard that the lead writer of the game personally dislikes the Wardens, which is probably part of why they were turned into brainwashed enemies in the previous game.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc Күн бұрын
most of Modern BioWare actively dislikes anything to do with Origins, and it really shows lol
@michaelfranzgarcia7769
@michaelfranzgarcia7769 Күн бұрын
Mythal is black now and she like white people as body so (white face?)
@annmoore321
@annmoore321 2 күн бұрын
Also: If you come up with video concepts for every possible background in this game, I will watch ALL. OF. THEM.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
I may do in time, right now I plan to replay the old DA games and take a nice break away from Veilguard lol
@themessenger1871
@themessenger1871 2 күн бұрын
​@@SoulGamesIncI hear you man. For me, my head cannon is that the Inquisitor didn't disban the Inquisition, but rather, split it up into splinter groups to prepare and strengthen Thedas for Solas's plan. The Veilguard, run by Varric, comes across the player during the player's origin story.
@murono22
@murono22 2 күн бұрын
@@themessenger1871 this was one of the original ideas before the reboot, still baffle me how they see the whole ship and espionage concept for Joplin, or a special force of the inquisition and thinks... Well that's bad, let's reboot it, what we need is a fucking crew of who's talking about tea and camping in the middle of 2 blights.
@vandemark1760
@vandemark1760 Күн бұрын
Agreed. Please do more videos for the other Origins, I would love to see them
@Adjudicator1
@Adjudicator1 Күн бұрын
@@SoulGamesInc Playing the older Dragon Age games will also serve the purpose of seeing what was done right in the previous games, and how can these wonderful moments and elements can be brought to what a properly made Veilguard should be.
@KisekiFan
@KisekiFan 2 күн бұрын
Bro, your Grey Warden story sounds like something that would come right out of Origins and i dig it.
@ordo_draigo_assault_ham
@ordo_draigo_assault_ham 2 күн бұрын
“I can fix her.” - Captain SaveAHoe
@MyriadColorsCM
@MyriadColorsCM 2 күн бұрын
In the Tevinter Noble intro, we should partner up with Dorian, he was probably the best character in Inquisition, hell, maybe he *is* the inquisitor's lover, and he helps you get into contact with the Inquisitor for help. What about Leliana? Did she become the Divine? Or was it Cassandra? They had SO MUCH to work with….goddamn it, I hate that Bioware is like this and that they are going to ruin Mass Effect next. A part of me just wishes Bioware to be closed so this fucking nightmare can end.
@vandemark1760
@vandemark1760 Күн бұрын
Alternatively, you could team up with Neve, hired by another member of your family (sibling, mother, aunt, etc), to investigate your father's murder. The preliminary missions you go on would involve the two of you solving related crimes and piecing together the clues that eventually lead you to the tavern where Varric is staying. The only issue is that Varric shows up looking for Neve...maybe she ends up being captured in the last mission you went on, and Varric helps you find her? Needs more work, I think.
@ihavecrabs56
@ihavecrabs56 Күн бұрын
idk if its jsut me but i dont really care if my past choices carry over into a new game lol
@Mr.Salad_
@Mr.Salad_ Күн бұрын
​@ihavecrabs56 Yes dude, it is just you. Stuff carrying over was a staple of Bioware.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc Күн бұрын
@ihavecrabs56 It's just You, well and I'm sure the portion of the "new" fans who don't care and think Veilguard is flawless - but carrying over your choices has indeed been a staple of BioWare RPGs since forever now :P
@Adjudicator1
@Adjudicator1 Күн бұрын
@@SoulGamesInc I concur. The feeling of revelation observing the latest string of dominoes fall and tracing the trail back to the origin (Literally Dragon Age Origins, if one has faithfully played through all games in the series) is indescribably great.
@EdgeHubPremium
@EdgeHubPremium 2 күн бұрын
It was genuinely cathartic to hear such brilliant writing in this setting again. Dragon Age is something I hold very dear as one of the only times I got to get my late father interested in a video game, let alone arguably more invested than I was. Picturing his Warden making that one final heroic sacrifice you describe brought a tear to my eye. Breaks my heart to see Dragon Age so arrogantly disrespected by the writers whose salaries its paying on the back of a world they could never conjure themselves. Thanks for making this, gives me hope that some day incredible, infinitely resonant storytelling will come back to the medium again in force.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it :) might do more "What Ifs" in the future, but for now I'm gonna replay the old DA games ha
@ZeroOmega-vg8nq
@ZeroOmega-vg8nq 2 күн бұрын
video for each origin- YES GIMME
@YueAki
@YueAki Күн бұрын
I KNOW RIGHT, god, I wish this was a game, someone need to mod Inquisition to make this
@EyesOfGehenna
@EyesOfGehenna 2 күн бұрын
Geezus, just the origin story alone makes me want to play your game
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
And that's what I consider pretty mediocre lol I could do so much better with enough time :)
@andersfrieden567
@andersfrieden567 Күн бұрын
​@@SoulGamesIncthe thing is these writers hate everything that came before them, that's why they wanted to ruin it and burn to the ground the legacy of Dragon Age.
@EyesOfGehenna
@EyesOfGehenna Күн бұрын
@@SoulGamesInc I'm sure you could, but it's soooo much better already than what they did with DA: The Safeguard
@dimodihanov5939
@dimodihanov5939 2 күн бұрын
You did such a good job fixing the unfixable! I was going to say Bioware should have hired you, but I wouldn't wish bad on you...
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Ha, doubt I'd last long working for BioWare with how/who they hire :) I'd likely find all my ideas shot down as being too "dark" or "problematic" lol glad you liked the video tho :D
@bezirochepolska1295
@bezirochepolska1295 4 сағат бұрын
@@SoulGamesInc Wait? It's possible that something is "too dark" for the f**cking dark fantasy?!
@abeshonest
@abeshonest 2 күн бұрын
It's baffling that having so many people responsible for the writing of veilguard that none thought to make an interesting story with consequences.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Choices and Consequences in an RPG? Madness
@RansomMemoryAccess
@RansomMemoryAccess Күн бұрын
You don't criticize manipulative narcissists with deep-seated victim mentality, especially when such criticism is likely to be seen as heresy to the dogmas of their pseudo-religion.
@jarek94cze
@jarek94cze 18 минут бұрын
It's not baffling at all. The writers are mentally ill gender confused far-left activist and diversity hires. They can't write anything interesting to save their/thems lives.
@badassgoat5601
@badassgoat5601 2 күн бұрын
Final Veilguard video? Maker forbid, don't. Constructive criticism is still needed, alot
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
We'll see, I at least want a lil breather away from this garbage fire - the fumes aren't healthy lol
@TheMaleRei
@TheMaleRei 2 күн бұрын
​@SoulGamesInc Your Armor is Contempt. Your Shield is Disgust. Your Sword is Hatred. Let none survive, brother!!!
@CleverCodger
@CleverCodger Күн бұрын
@@SoulGamesInc you and 42000 others (who refunded it on Steam).
@Slyslug
@Slyslug 2 күн бұрын
When I heard you narrating at first I thought "wait this is actually sick, just like DAO. Everyone lied to me this game is awesome". Then I realized it's your re write. Too bad they didn't have you write for the game LOL
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Haha, sorry to get your hopes you; but really this isn't too impressive - I could do far better given time :)
@Slyslug
@Slyslug 2 күн бұрын
@SoulGamesInc it's a great add for the book you're working on ngl.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
@@Slyslug we'll see if that ever sees the light of day :) been working on it slowly for a few years; I'm my own biggest critic lol
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
There's more choices/story/paths I have in mind, but the game of "What If" will drive a man quite mad :) ultimately, yes, if Veilguard actually presented itself as an RPG, wrote characters based on Quality instead of Politics and Respected established lore... well it wouldn't be Veilguard... it would be a Dragon Age title... and it might not be terrible either; the core concept isn't too bad, it just needs talented writers and directors who are focused on creating a story for You, the Player, not Themselves.
@RandomWandrer
@RandomWandrer 2 күн бұрын
The main story writers were outstanding. The companion dialogue writers were... I think there were a few of them, because Neve and Dav and Emeric were very well written. Harding and Lucanis were fine. Bellara came across as annoying, but her personal quest was actually surprisingly good. I dont know who wrote the weird stuff in Taash side story. Definitely a separate person who doesn't know how to write immersively. I dobt care that taash is trans. I care that the language used by this companion slaps of 2020's America and not timeless in thedas.
@ramiswasi
@ramiswasi 2 күн бұрын
Please make it
@Adjudicator1
@Adjudicator1 Күн бұрын
I like this take. What was sold was a poor quality lemon. But seeing the passionate fans work hard to fix the issue is like seeing that poor lemon get processed into refreshing good quality lemonade.
@annmoore321
@annmoore321 2 күн бұрын
OMG… Someone PLEASE show this to BioWare! It’s too late for Veilguard, but maybe someone there will get reminded of what an RPG is supposed to be. A girl can hope…. Right?
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Check out Exodus, if you're a Mass Effect fan at all; is being made by Ex-BioWare staff who worked on Origins and Mass Effect - looks promising - worth keeping an eye on
@andersfrieden567
@andersfrieden567 Күн бұрын
If there's any hope for a good game, they should just retcon Veilguard and do a remake. With all the same characters but better fleshed out and not acting like children.
@CK-lt6jl
@CK-lt6jl Күн бұрын
they wouldn't recognize a good story anyways.
@Adjudicator1
@Adjudicator1 20 сағат бұрын
@@andersfrieden567 Or similar to Mass Effect 3, a proper "Director's Cut" edition that fixes the issues.
@stefanjoksa
@stefanjoksa 2 күн бұрын
"Every man, woman and child will fight with you" Gave me chills, could actually imagine everything happening. It's fascinating how in todays day and age imagination is the thing that's lacking in narrative mediums.
@Your_Friend_Adam
@Your_Friend_Adam 2 күн бұрын
I just want to say I felt the Helm's Deep vibe as you were describing the battle.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
That's what I was aiming for yeah :) or Minas Tirith; something cool and epic like that at least - with the outcome of the battle (and who/if anyone shows up to help) being down to the Players choices, would've been great :D
@mustafaozturk2542
@mustafaozturk2542 11 сағат бұрын
@@SoulGamesInc There is another version I can think of if your character is a mage warden. Nobody could show up to help you, and you could have an option to bring demons from the fade. After the battle, you use your last bit of magic to seal the fade once more, but your weak state can't protect you from a demon possessing you. This would introduce a new skill set available for this path only, and the consequences of this decision show itself toward the end. The thing that possessed you might be a forgotten god that tries to free Solas or stop Solas, depending on your choices. The god could make the Rook look like a total lunatic or someone with high intelligence.
@Ceivous
@Ceivous 2 күн бұрын
Sounds alright, Morrigan should then also mention that alas, HoF's search for a cure for the Calling bore no fruit (I mean I guess it didn't? No one mentions it including Morrigan, who told HoF about it in the first place) and obviously a touching scene due to HoF's death if they were friends or even a couple. It would be a good death because the Calling would have taken HoF soon anyway.
@Snappybiscuits
@Snappybiscuits 2 күн бұрын
Viewers - "Hey man.....how are you holding up? How's the brain doing? Good, I hope."
@martilyn3502
@martilyn3502 2 күн бұрын
I felt more connected to your "quick fix" than anything I've seen in DATV. They put not soul or love into that game and it shows so badly. It is an empty shell of Dragon Age.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Sadly, there's such a lack of RPG in Veilguard that "Fixing" it is pretty much creating a new game from scratch - that's just how much RPG is missing from it; might as well create your own game at that point lol
@jakobrenner2230
@jakobrenner2230 2 күн бұрын
MAAAAN to start in the Tevinter Imperium as a mage nobleman was a colossal missed opportunity!!! I don't even understand how this was not something that was even considered for this setting.
@andersfrieden567
@andersfrieden567 Күн бұрын
You could have even met Dorian as early as prologue and discuss with him Tevinter politics, his time in Inquisition and your relationship with his character. Do you oppose him and stick to the old ways or collaborate with him to bring some change to the corrupted Imperium later down the line? One could only hope.
@jakobrenner2230
@jakobrenner2230 2 сағат бұрын
@@andersfrieden567 So sad we were robbed of this. It was also a perfect foil for the Human Noble in Origins: instead of embodying the "Warrior Noble Lord" that we were in the first DA, we could start with the ultimate contrast in the "Arrogant Noble Magister" (or offspring of a Magister more accurately) to set the tone for how different the Imperium is from the places we have seen before.
@Ukayeah
@Ukayeah 2 күн бұрын
This guy fucking gets it, holy fuck, just look at this Bioware, Fear and hunger I and 2 are proof algo that "looks" is not everything, you just need a good story.
@mdd4296
@mdd4296 Күн бұрын
fear and hunger looks appropriate for what it is. Veilguard looks like mobile game desperation.
@AC-bp3tg
@AC-bp3tg 2 күн бұрын
Looove this video!! Bioware could have really used you in the writer's room 😭The idea of using the Eluvians to travel around appealing to the different factions of Thedas & gaining support or being rejected depending on our previous decisions is SO brilliant! Imagine if you could travel to Skyhold and see your Inquisitor with their love instead of just receiving a shitty codex letter... 😓The motivation to replay the game would've been astronomical. I spent hundreds of hours over dozens of playthroughs in each game trying to fill out the tapestry in my Dragon Age Keep. Honestly, it was one of my favorite mechanisms in any game EVER. Learning that they scrapped the Keep for Veilguard was so disappointing. Oh, what we could have had. 😭
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
BioWare would've refused all my ideas as too "dark" and "problematic" lol
@Mgauge
@Mgauge 2 күн бұрын
Veilguard needs a prologue so desperately that it seems like you're missing an entire, much more interesting game before the intro.
@KaelynRowk
@KaelynRowk 2 күн бұрын
Same with inquisition. Character introduction could be at a conclave
@bitesizedhero8030
@bitesizedhero8030 2 күн бұрын
This reminds me of Mauler's "A critique of Star Wars: The Force Awakens", but with less swearing. I like it.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
@@bitesizedhero8030 if I swear more KZbin takes away my adrev 🤣
@dostwood5103
@dostwood5103 2 күн бұрын
These ideas for your own personal re-write are fantastic! You should totally do more of these for other choices or origin ideas. Crazy how fans always seem to have more creative ideas…
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it :) might do more, we'll see, want to replay the original DA's first I need a break from Veilguards stench lol
@dostwood5103
@dostwood5103 2 күн бұрын
@@SoulGamesInc Yeah, I don't blame you. Take a break from it. I became a Dragon Age fan back in late 2022 during my final year of high school and it makes me glad I wasn't waiting 10 years for Veilguard, but it still hurts nonetheless. I've been watching a friend of mine play Origins for the first time. If there's one good thing to come of the Veilguard outrage it's that it encouraged my friend to play Origins for the first time and he's loving it.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
@@dostwood5103 I've replayed Origins already :) still 10/10 game and great fun, and I played it like 40+ times through back in the day heh will be doing videos on Origins, DA2 and DAI as I replay each :)
@TheArcaneArbiter
@TheArcaneArbiter Күн бұрын
Just imagine if we had the script and scene ingame where the Hero of Ferelden and the Wardens charge the darkspawn similar to the Charge of the Rohirrim. INSTEAD WE GOT THIS 😂
@kevinborders4387
@kevinborders4387 2 күн бұрын
Love it. A story beat i really wanted was: if your hawke is a mage in 2, and you leave him in the fade in 3, then he emerges from the fade, or whatever it became in dreadwolf(not calling it veilguard)
@TiffanyTse93
@TiffanyTse93 2 күн бұрын
hi, this prologue you are describing as an alternate to the game sounds better than forcing you with that outcome as your back story! thank you.
@rfl3239
@rfl3239 2 күн бұрын
loved this you did the lore justice and for that I thank you. I just wanted an end to my warden's story, just wanted him to find a cure for the calling and living happily ever after with Morrigan and Kieran
@robertbastiencote4284
@robertbastiencote4284 2 күн бұрын
"Not even a complete overhaul mod can fix this game". Change my mind (please).
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Sadly, can't help you, no Mod is going to be able to fix this haha outside of it pretty much just being a different game :)
@TheOriginalDarkSheep
@TheOriginalDarkSheep Күн бұрын
Thank you for making a thoroughly valid argument without mentioning that embarasing culture war going on on the sideline. The STORY (or lack thereoff) is the issue.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc Күн бұрын
The culture war isn't ultimately required to explain why Veilguard isn't an RPG or Dragon Age 🤣 as you say, writing and a complete lack of choice are the issue, I'd rather approch it focued on the Why of the thing than throw buzzwords like "woke" around heh there's an argument to be made about the writers being too focued on the wrong things, and BioWares hiring pratices both stiffle creative process - but it all results in Bad Writing :)
@daboi2126
@daboi2126 2 күн бұрын
Game reviewers wouldn't have needed to lie if they hired you
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
I'll stick to my channel where I'm allowed to be brutally honest and not care about anyone's feelings haha :D
@Ariyala
@Ariyala 2 күн бұрын
Absolutely need act 2 and 3 for this. I would play this a million times over
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
We'll see :) I want to replay the other DA's first, get the taste of Veilguard outa my mouth ha
@anotherguyIoLoLo27
@anotherguyIoLoLo27 2 күн бұрын
All of the upcoming "what if"-type of videos on yt are gonna be 200% more interesting than the entirety of DAV. Which is fucking sad. Good video! I've also felt connected to the GW the most in this game, but goddamn they did them dirty. I've slapped my face a thousand times when Rook went "WHAT??? THERE IS BLIGHT HERE???" or "OH NO!!! IT'S THE BLIGHTED DRAGON AGAIN!!!" like dude. YOU. CAN. SENSE. THEM. Why are you acting surprised??? And Rook's casual mention of GW's nightmares in one of Neve's conversations... She asks why aren't you sleeping (btw How do you know if it's day/night at the lighthouse? The "sun" doesn't go down there my dude...) and you can EXTREMELY CASUALLY mention that OH YEAH! I'M A GREY WARDEN AND WE HAVE THESE TERRIFIC NIGHTMARES ABOUT ARCHDEMONS STARING US AT THE FACE AND CALLING FOR THEM! TEE-HEEE, THERE IS THAT! ugh...
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, the Backgrounds are so CLEARLY an afterthought in Veilguard, they're meaningless and could be removed entirely without anything changing lol you'd never even notice the difference if they weren't there
@acsummer565
@acsummer565 2 күн бұрын
Leave a message before watching, just wanna say how much I enjoyed your datv review, your hilarious content actually made me feel so much better because I was really sad how they killed one of my favorite franchise.just subscribed !’👍
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Glad you had/are having fun :) that's the goal, first and foremost, I try to keep things entertaining ha
@j0hke
@j0hke 2 күн бұрын
I’d love to listen to your own origin story’s for Veilguard. I was apparently the nicest Antivan Crow in the game lol thanks to dialogue choices. I wish the Keep was left in the game. That way the world would feel mine I helped shape and not generic as Veilgaurd made it feel.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
We'll see :) going to replay the original DA games first; have some fun after suffering Veilguard heh
@j0hke
@j0hke 2 күн бұрын
@@SoulGamesInc lol I redownloaded Origins as well ty for the upload!
@xLionsxxSmithyx
@xLionsxxSmithyx Күн бұрын
You can certainly try! Mr.Beans mona lisa.
@JenPurl
@JenPurl 2 күн бұрын
Stumbled onto this video and I'm so glad I gave it a listen. I havent played any Dragon Age game and your re-telling was so captivating. I can't wait for your book if you end up publishing
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Time will tell :) been writing it for awhile, very slowly, my own biggest critic so we'll see if it ever sees the light of day haha
@jibjub7047
@jibjub7047 2 күн бұрын
Remove Taash, that also fixes 99.9% of the toe curling cringe.
@soulsbornepgamingchannel3755
@soulsbornepgamingchannel3755 2 күн бұрын
100% correct
@neuropantser5
@neuropantser5 2 күн бұрын
taash is probably the best written companion besides emmrich. they have a dry sense of humor and an interesting relationship with the culture they come from that gives the player insight into the qun and the qunari diaspora. they put the didactic Very Special Episode stuff about their gender in there as a form of marketing - they knew every lonely incel on the internet would shriek and cry about it, which makes normal people want to play the game. the incel shrieking actually covers for the bad writing, drowns out legitimate criticism and provides free positive press. y'all are EA's strongest soldiers lol
@65firered
@65firered 2 күн бұрын
Well, 75% at least.
@65firered
@65firered 2 күн бұрын
​@@neuropantser5Yes because the small child in an adult body who thinks they are more important than an apocalypse is certainly worth championing...
@tyllua
@tyllua 2 күн бұрын
@@neuropantser5 shes absolutely not the best written companion besides emmerich, she is the worst. she is always rude to you and the other companions, has besides the whole non binary thing, mental mama issues and is a risk to any "special force" than a gain. the only reason taash exists, is for checkboxes. - gender stuff - qunari is on the team - we actually fight dragons (remember? DRAGON age)
@masha22092000r
@masha22092000r 2 күн бұрын
I would gladly play this remaster over DA:V. Choices? Intrigue? What is this, an RPG? Sign me up! Would be interesting to hear an Act 2. As a palette cleanser at least. That battle you described is so Helm's Deep coded. 👍 Some details that come to mind: 1. Varrick has no business searching for Solas. They are not "friends". They never got along - more like "coexisted". Varrick is the Viscount of Kirkwall. Let him be for a change😅. Should have been either Cassandra or Leliana depending on who is Devine - also ties it to the Chantry. 2. Venatori have no business here. Their cause died with Corypheus. But some Tevinter mages manipulated by the Blighted Gods? Or elves? Yes, that could do. 3. The way in which the ritual gets interrupted is BS. A 6000+ year old "god" wrestling Varric for a knife? Badly secured scaffolding? What? What if the events of DA:I have left the Veil "thinner" and the Blighted Gods have found a way to "sing" to some Tevinter Magister? And that's how you come to unknowingly disrupt the ritual and free them? By manipulation which you diacover much later? 4. The Qunari invasion. The Devine would have declared an Exalted March. We should have been given a choice to either recruit the technologically advanced but foreign Qunari or secure the Devine's aid by helping one of the sides there. Instead it's just brushed off. Queue conflict with Cassandra/Lelliana if you choose the Qunari. Or visa versa with another companion. Not some therapy session *sigh* 5. The Veil and the ending. I was expecting it to be destroyed in DA:4. Sandal (the enchantment boy) all but predicted it in DA:2. Veilguard's ending is cowardly in every single aspect. I like what you did with the Forgotten Ones coming in. In Origins we had the common denominator of the Archedemon dying, here we could have had the Veil being destroyed. But how? Maybe you side with Solas as he promises to "be gentle about it" - and maybe the thruthfulness of that depends on your decisions in DA4/DAI. Maybe you side with the Forgotten One. Maybe the Blighted Gods (with the Architect joining them if he lives). Maybe you trick them into killing each other but the Veil is still too damaged and crumbles uncontrollably. Maybe the Inquisitor approves/is horrified by your decisions based on the personality/decisions you gave them in Inquisition - maybe they'll attack you. 6. The "Messenger" who comes to the Grey wardens after the battle you described isn't necessarily Morrigan but whatever *mage* that drank from the Well of Sorrows. That's how they know what they know - Mythal gave that person her memories (that thing she sends through the Eluvian at the end of DA:I before Solas kills her). And if the Inquisitor drank and isn't a mage - it's him/her + Morrigan who gets Mythal's memory in this case. Alas, this is not meant to be. Forgive my ranting. Still heartbroken over my beloved series getting gutted like that. Our only hope is EA putting BioWare out of their misery and the IP getting picked up by someone who cares. I have already seen several "Veilguard fix-it" fanfics on the web which look better that a real AAA product made by people who got PAID to write it. Edit: That thumbnail "fix" 😂 👍
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Hehehe, yeah the thumbnail fix 😂 you're welcome :D as for the rest, yeah agreed, ultimately while making this I came to the conclusion that - in order to fix Veilguard - one would basically need to add SO much RPG to it that you might as well make your own RPG lol
@magusjiro
@magusjiro 2 күн бұрын
With good writing and characters, I would have probably bought it. But I still would have been disappointed with the combat/mechanics. I like bioware of old. I miss the 3d real time with pause crpg esk gameplay of many older bioware games. I wanted them to keep making those games, but now nobody makes fantasy rpgs like old bioware.. NO ONE.. ive been looking. Every recommendation is nothing like the games Bioware used to make.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, no getting rid of the smell, I simply wanted to do this video to highlight how - given proper Choices and Story - it could've still been a half-decent Dragon Age experience; instead of whatever abomination we got that's wearing a Dragon Age skinsuit lol
@blazeman999999999999
@blazeman999999999999 2 күн бұрын
14:10 this is really similar to the start of Mass Effect 3 lol Definitely think that setup is better as a consequence of your choices rather than being forced upon you
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Choices and Consequences :) you'd think that's not such a difficult concept for an RPG to grasp lol
@QuestQuenchers
@QuestQuenchers 2 күн бұрын
I really didn't like how the wardens were written in this game. Your version is pretty cool. The First warden sucks. That much so I made a video how I wish the First warden was.
@silentlyjudgingyou
@silentlyjudgingyou Күн бұрын
You are describing something I would have actually played, shame bioware no longer has competent writers they left when they weren't listened to. I'd love to hear an act two
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc Күн бұрын
Might do more, seems a lot of people would like it - so I'll take some time n put more effort into the next one(s) haha
@mirandapanda7154
@mirandapanda7154 Күн бұрын
All I think about when playing Veilguard is what this game COULD have been like and you put it to words perfectly. It's actually sad that one guy with limited time did a better job than a whole team in 10 years. I miss origins :(
@livingwatersz
@livingwatersz 2 күн бұрын
wow I haven't finished the video yet but loved your take on the battle of Weisshaupt. I am so into it, I was thinking for a branch for the HoF to show up with his armies could happen, if you did decide to help out Arlathan forest first, and since in Veilguard that's where you meet Morrigan, she'll show up like in the game, but this time (whether the HoF is her romance or not, considering platonic HoF could end up being her most treasured friend) you tell her about the incoming blight to Weisshaupt and it's there you can ask her if the HoF and his forces in the South can be of any help. She could be slightly irritated (since now she'll have to send him another letter making him think she misses him xD) but you'll be able to solidify help and decide from there to go to minthraous too or now straight to weisshaupt with help on the way (Also this could be one of the best routes since the HoF could bring several allies depending on ur choices from warden, i.e Bhelen would for sure help, Harrowmont would be less inclined, etc). Then at Weisshaupt the HoF dies, and Morrigan + Kieran would show up this time to mourn. A special bonus would be if Alistair stayed a warden and not the king, when it comes time to kill the Archdemon, the HoF would ofc be the first to rush towards it and kill it - but Alistair would stop him, which would ensue an argument between them (omg the nostalgia!). the HoF would be like 'Alistair, step down!" and Alistair would be like 'Are you kidding me? Think of your family! You got rid of your calling (continuation of the inquistion storyline). You're not going to waste it.' the HoF would be silent, looking at his friend, his brother. Then Alistair would walk ahead and draw his sword, look back at the HoF and do one of his snarky smiles and say. 'Besides, you killed the last one. That hurt my manly pride, you know? I never got over it.' please continue these videos, I would love ot hear your Act 2 + 3 and your detailed origin stories as well, I loved the idea of a Lord of Fortune Rook as a sailor on Isabela's ship and the Crow trying to take down Zevran, i need it all liked and subscribed.
@ehellstrom7127
@ehellstrom7127 2 күн бұрын
As someone that played through each origin story in DAO 4 times (male and female, good and evil each), I love your fixes. Edit: Come to think of it. It was even more because I also played through wether you live or die at the end. I don't care about getting 100% completion on games. Yet DAO was the first game I ever platinumed. And I did it just from playing and wanting to see everything.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Same story with me :) only game I ever got all the achievements on, replayed it half a hundred times
@ehellstrom7127
@ehellstrom7127 2 күн бұрын
@SoulGamesInc That was such a great game. I still get goosebumps when I think about the dwarf talking in the background when you are heading towards the broodmother. Seriously, it's such a shame what has happened to the franchise.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
@@ehellstrom7127 at least we can always replay Origins ha
@chidengan18
@chidengan18 Күн бұрын
Whenever you finish your book i hope you post it as this is great storytelling.
@ColaDad
@ColaDad 2 күн бұрын
I can say that I wish they did A LOT of things (and they did NONE of them), but before release, (when the game was still known as dreadwolf), everyone was saying hat this most likely will be the last DA game, for various reasons. What I had hoped the devs would do, would be got ''balls to the wall'' and bring back EVERY previous protagonist. (Hero of Ferelden, Champion of Kirkwall, and The INquisitor). We would get endings to all of these 3 heroes and, most importanlty, see them interact with each other. (We could even pick our wardens voice, or they could write it that the warden has been injured and is unable to speak or something.) This wish was even far fetched for the OG bioware devs, but after release, I laugh at my naivite, What a grand fucking dissapointment.
@NWthinkout
@NWthinkout Сағат бұрын
Waiting for part two. Thank you very much for inhaling life in that product 'failguard'.
@sebastianpinoalipaz5935
@sebastianpinoalipaz5935 Күн бұрын
I was hoping Merril would return (if she's still alive after 2), and depending on whether she completed or destroyed her eluvian and your choices in Dreadwolf she could potentially join Solas or the Evanuris... but we got Bellara instead
@karava401
@karava401 42 минут бұрын
I don't every like/comment or engage in any way on KZbin, but I saw your view/comment counts and felt the need to interact to do what little I can for the algorithm. I loved DA:O, but never gave 2 a chance with the shift in gameplay. Tried DA:I but quit immediately when it felt like a single player MMO. This video was a wonderful listen on my commute and I hope your channel gets the traction it deserves.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 32 минут бұрын
I and the algorithm appreciate it :) I'd recommend giving DA2 a try one day, the story isn't bad if you can get past the hyper-speedy combat; it's kinda short and its development was definitely rushed as hell, but it has its moments. DAI yeeah, I plan to replay it when time permits but I had a similar experience heh
@laureanogutierrezv
@laureanogutierrezv Күн бұрын
Some of the choices I would have expected were stuff like this: - Supporting Aelia’s Blood Magic rituals to unlock a blood magic skill or recruting her by sacrificing Neve. - Aligning with Anaris and his quest to transform the veil jumpers into demons and make an uneasy alliance to fight for you. - Siding with Isseya in blighting the griffons and using them as weapons making the wardens not support you.
@sportsfan91222
@sportsfan91222 3 сағат бұрын
I would watch a full video of these new backgrounds. Better than the non-story we got now.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 3 сағат бұрын
Might do, if only for fun; people also seem quite interested ha :)
@Vladislav888
@Vladislav888 2 күн бұрын
30:02 Hot take: DA:O's story wasn't that good. It was ok. The plot is straightforward: you join the Grey Wardens, your party loses the first major battle, you gather allies in a non-linear fashion, and then your party wins in the second round. That's it. All the real substance came from the stellar worldbuilding, fascinating companions, impactful choices, and the overall quality of the writing. Combined with the fantastic music and consistent art direction, these elements created the immersion that I would argue was the main selling point of DAO. From what I've seen, Veilguard falls short in every aspect by comparison.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
eh, if you pick it apart the "story" is fairly straight-forward yes I'll agree to a degree, but as you say; excellent world building, characters, companions, choices and dialogue - these things are equally if not More important than the overall Story - you can be thrown into a pretty generic "heroes journey" but then let the Player dictate their own path through it; that creates memories, attachments, if everything In that world is engaging and memorable? Well, you've got a success on your hands :) I replayed it recently, still a 10/10 experience. Veilguard, as you say, fails in every aspect of what made Origins the fan favourite it is.
@Vladislav888
@Vladislav888 2 күн бұрын
@@SoulGamesInc My point is that DA:O is a simple story told well. And from what I've seen, the Veilguard is a badly-told simple story. So the hypothetical re-write needs to touch basically everything. >I replayed it recently, still a 10/10 experience. Currently going through it right now. It holds up still.
@vanessab.s2596
@vanessab.s2596 Күн бұрын
I actually agree. The story in general is a very stereotypical and simple thing: unlikely hero has to defeat the great evil. What makes it absolutely great is how things and people are presented to you, the multiple ways you can go and complete certain missions (and how this choices actually have some impact) and the constant dichotomy the game keeps you in (like, do mages deserve to be free even when they're more dangerous than your average citizen? Is Loghain a villain or a victim trapped in the past?) Just an example, Grey Wardens are presented to you as this big heroes who vanquish this absolute evil, but then you learn that they can force someone against their will to join and no one can do anything about it (hell, even Duncan was forced to join), that it requires to shorten your lifespan to 30 years from the moment you drink the blood and that dealing the killing blow goes both ways. Turns out, the GW are not heroes, but somewhat of a necessary evil
@andersfrieden567
@andersfrieden567 Күн бұрын
​@@vanessab.s2596it's the thing that made the Wardens compelling and different to every other fantasy trope, they protect everyone from great evil for a great cost. The last entry to the franchise reduced them to nothing.
@vanessab.s2596
@vanessab.s2596 Күн бұрын
@@andersfrieden567 Inquisition made them look like unexperienced children who can't tell the difference between dreams and reality. Also, no one stop to wonder why the calling was, well, calling young Wardens (because I assume there were people who have been wardens for less than 10 years) and the convenient timing that guy (can't remember his name) shows up with this great plan to save them. Veilguard made them look like minions who's only braincell is the First Warden, and so they won't lift a finger unless given orders or permission even when there's a gigantic threat right in front of them (basically like a soccer team and their coach/trainer/whatever you call it). Hell, templars had a law where the 2nd in command can challenge the Kgnight Commander's authority if necessary, but GW had nothing, a complete stranger (or exiled Warden) had to stand up for them so they wouldn't get killed
@Vladislav888
@Vladislav888 2 күн бұрын
29:26 I enjoyed it. Would certainly watch more.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Might do more, we'll see, plan to replay DA2 and DAI first; need to have some actual Fun after playing/suffering Veilguard lol
@kreka283
@kreka283 Күн бұрын
Thank you!!! This is the game we wanted, and it breaks my heart that it's not the game that we got.
@gortharthegamer8572
@gortharthegamer8572 2 күн бұрын
I didn’t expect to play the role as another member in the writer’s room, but I also enjoy writing so I’ll throw my two cents in. Firstly, love the idea of reimplementing the Dalish clan from Origins and 2, however there’s players who may have killed the clan after the clan want Merrill dead. So maybe instead make it another clan that’s aware of the goings on in the world. Secondly, Weisshaupt could have one returning character from the previous games, whether it be Bethany/Carver if they became a warden for simple recognition points, or one of the Awakening companions like Oghren or Nathaniel, who’d like stick out like a sore thumb or blend in with the noble mindset respectively. Finally, I think a companion you should get access to is an awakened Darkspawn from DA: Awakening. They would hide themselves in plain sight as a Warden on the road and have been dubbed the Black Warden due to their warden uniform attire being blackened (their actual name pending). When asked why they sound like they smoke a pack a day they claim to have taken a wound to their throat, permanently altering their voice. It’s only in Act 2 they are either revealed as a Darkspawn by someone else (a potential Warden companion who instinctively dislikes the Black Warden since they feel something is wrong with them) or if you get their affection high enough they reveal their face to you. It’s then revealed the Architect lives (assuming he’s got the same regeneration as Corypheus if the Hero of Ferelden killed him) and has strengthened his awakened children’s minds so they can tolerate the call as well as any Warden, but this Blight threatens their independence as much as everyone else’s lives.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc Күн бұрын
Yeah I'd need to put more work than 30sec's of thought into the Dalish story haha :) Weisshaupt, yeah, would be cool to say find Oghren drinking all the other wardens under the table on the eve of battle lol and I like the Black Warden concept; nice way to bring the Architect storyline about into the fold - might steal that if I ever end up doing a video for each Origin and really flushing it all out lmao
@SolusGemini
@SolusGemini Күн бұрын
This is effin briliant. I would love to play that game. That's so much better than anything I've played in Veilguard so far.
@AnaRustenholtz
@AnaRustenholtz Күн бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one who went on a mission to write a better, more lore compliant veilguard than what was released. I pray, that one day, some indie developer gets permission to write a true end to the dragon age series.
@YueAki
@YueAki Күн бұрын
Please do the rest of the videos, please, please, please I need more DA lore-content, and the game does not scratch the spot no matter what I do
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc Күн бұрын
@@YueAki I probably will 😇 with more time put in tho, this video was quite unplanned lol
@asonofhoruslegionary
@asonofhoruslegionary 2 күн бұрын
You have earned my subscription this concept for a first act was amazing and it feels like dragon age unlike Veil guard. Please do more of these it is a glimpse at the game we should have had. Back before we knew anything about the game I was hoping to be able to play a Tevinter Noble and go fully into an evil play-through with blood magic and everything. You’ve heavily inspired me and I’m already thinking possibilities of how act one could go for that origin. Like I’m thinking your father could have been a magister aligned with Dorian and was assassinated by the Venatori. The whole of act one could be you uncovering a Venatori plot to launch a coup to take the Imperium, and culminating in a minor civil war that you can sop, hinder or aid. You can even still have the Elven Gods and the blight in the background by having them use their dragons (Teventer old gods) as figureheads to control the Venatori (much more plausible then them following the elven gods directly) I’m even imaging you could use that knowledge (once acquired) to take control of the Venatori if you want to go that route. I just imagine in this scenario you would have 2 outcomes with some variations (that I can think of) A. Most of the Venatori aligned magisters are killed, imprisoned or fled with Dorian’s faction now dominating, which has further consequence on Tevinter. Or B: you help the Venatori take control and they can even ally with you against the blight (if you revealed the Elven Gods were using them). This would also end up with you killing Dorian and stopping any possibility of allying with the Inquisition. In fact the Inquisitor may even try to stop or kill you if given the chance which has further consequences.
@cgriff142
@cgriff142 2 күн бұрын
This is definitely 100x better than what veilguard provided. I would have definitely implemented The Keep again, so your choices from the other games help shape the world you will play in. Part of me wishes that they would let play with your Grey Warden from Origins again
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Yeah 100% the choices from your previous games should've had impacts on the whole Fate of Thedas :) as for the Warden, yeah I'd love that, but BioWare would never do it justice; best left alone or at best given a massive epic sendoff if your choices allow it
@cgriff142
@cgriff142 2 күн бұрын
​@@SoulGamesIncIn my opinion The Warden still needs to interact with Morrigan again and his son if you did that choice before we could end his story
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Its "doable" if you let the player customize their "Warden" at the start of the game; otherwise the game would struggle to make your warden Look the same... also the issue that the Warden was a Silent Protag; would need those voice actors who did what few sounds/voicelines the Warden(s) had etc Would be cool, would love to see it, but it would likely be rather challenging.
@caseysmith8655
@caseysmith8655 2 күн бұрын
This was a much more riveting story than what has been put out,thank you ❤
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it :) could be much better if I put a lot more time into it; but I had fun brainstorming
@sabaqumurasaki7513
@sabaqumurasaki7513 Күн бұрын
My betrayed soul heals while I listen and pretend that this is the actual game.
@GreyWardenArlethaVakarian
@GreyWardenArlethaVakarian 2 күн бұрын
I wish the game would be exactly like you wrote it, I would buy two copys for ps5 disk version and for pc. My EA play pro description will end this month. Damn now I am sad, the new BioWare peeps are incapable of writing a good story 😢
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
I could write far better ha that's the amusing thing, it boggles my mind how anyone at BioWare willingly created what they did; with no choices at all :( just isn't an RPG at all as things stand
@DSauceyCam
@DSauceyCam Күн бұрын
I feel like this game had so much potential even Taash could jave been a compelling character based off of Quanri culture and how stringent but seemingly open it is. IE feeling like a lady while being good at fighting which is a man's role in the culture. God this game sucks.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc Күн бұрын
The early concept art for Taash is actually pretty good, if she was written well it could've been a decent character
@Artemisarrowzz
@Artemisarrowzz 2 күн бұрын
For the love of the Maker, don't make the Dragons be "Evanuris' pets". PLEASE, ENOUGH WITH THE "ELVES DID IT" BS, IT'S TIRING AND BORING.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Na, if I had to make Any connection to them; I'd have them be the enslaved and corrupted spirits of the Old Gods and that's why Morrigan/her Mother wanted one uncorrupted and freed - but I'm no fan of the connection - you could also make them the Forgotten Ones spirits, bound to the dragons and driven insane... really any story is better than the whole "lol normal dragons just elf god pets" I agree it's dumb lol
@Artemisarrowzz
@Artemisarrowzz 2 күн бұрын
@@SoulGamesInc My hypothesis back from origins was that they are indeed the "Forgotten ones", imprisoned deep beneath the earth when the Veil was put up, with the elven gods lost in the fade. That, or they were the elven gods' bodies, separated from their bodies and basically made into Tranquils, and thus the Taint was a corruption of the body caused by being "soulless" and the desperation of those spirits, hence why all Darkspawn could be then shapeshifted into the Archdemon if not killed by a Grey Warden. Another was that all the stories were true at the same time, that the Maker is real and did indeed give life to many spirits, but some became corrupted like Melkor/Morgoth. Over time the "Valar" or in this case the Evanuris also became evil and demanded slaves and worship to fight, and to make sure they all lived, the Maker separated realities to weaken them with the help of (or even being himself) Fen'harel, whom could have been the first human, hence why the elves blamed humans for their short lifespans. It's sad however that in making Solas the "word of God" by having him being one of the gods, so many possible stories were cut.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, lot of missed potential; never really liked Solas myself honestly lol
@anotherguyIoLoLo27
@anotherguyIoLoLo27 2 күн бұрын
@@Artemisarrowzz I like Solas (in Inq mostly) as a character 'cause I personally like this "God with unholy amount of power hiding in plain sight" type of stuff lol But the difference between Inq's Solas and this one is kind of jarring. Inq's Solas was lead by ideas and beliefs, not by a person (Mythal). If anything, Inquisitor's reappearance in Veilguard (10 years have passed, might I remind you) and her (yeah, I like the Inquisitor-Solas romance lol I know some hate it, but I like it. I think it makes the story so much more personal) is what should drive Solas into listening to reason. No his fucking "muh mythalussy!!!!11" shit. Oh, and yeah, Inq's Solas would never scream -no, he wouldn't even entertain the idea of pretending for the fear factor - to scream YOU'RE A MERE MORTAL AND I'M A GOD! Lame.
@Artemisarrowzz
@Artemisarrowzz 2 күн бұрын
@@anotherguyIoLoLo27 XD oh the Mythalussy, suddenly EVERYTHING is about that Mythaulussy. I personally didn't like how they handled Solas in either game, because they destroyed all the mystery. Ironically tho I did like the romance, because it made it all personal, as you say lol Still, it would have been more interesting if they had at least kept things complicated instead of taking EVERYTHING Solas said as the word of God. And had kept his sick braids as shown in the concept art, those were neat.
@TheTrueDiablix
@TheTrueDiablix 2 күн бұрын
Your intro to the video, before even getting to your prologue concept, has more depth than Veilguard's story lol
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc Күн бұрын
🤣 I may do videos flushing all my concepts out; we'll see - the ideas here are fairly rushed and basic imo
@eideardpeschak7546
@eideardpeschak7546 Күн бұрын
OMG! Now that i heard that famous line of his, i 100% agree: you do sound like TotalBiscuit. Totally awesome that there's someone who might carry on his legacy. I love it!
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc Күн бұрын
I wouldn't consider myself carrying his legacy 🤣 just an old fan that happens to do videos and has a similar accent n sense of humor lol
@Silas-Serdar
@Silas-Serdar 2 күн бұрын
Your first concept of the warden is really cool, Soul. And i would like to know about act 2 of your version. 👍 I would implement the Inquisition as a possible factions, depending if it still exits either as faction or the honor guard of the divine. In their origin you could either be a human, dwarf or qunari, who prepares an ambush for a band of Solas' elvish follower. But if you should play as an elvish member, you got the unique opportunity to start as a spy among Solas' followers. As for the mages. If you choose to me a tevinter Mage, I would implement the inner conflict between Dorian's group against the conservative and more ruthless magistrates of the imperium. Here you could desite, to which political party you belongs, which would influence certain relationship. For Example. If you are part of Dorian's party you will have very good relationships with the inquisiton, while on the magistrate sites, you would be despise by not only the inquiositon but the elves too. There are indeed a million ways to make Veilguard a lot more better than... this.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, a million better ways; sadly got none of them :(
@SocoXVII
@SocoXVII 2 күн бұрын
I love this, I'm going to throw an idea out I was sitting on when playing this game. Racial backgrounds ASWELL AS collective backgrounds... For Example you have the basic backgrounds Warden Veil jumper Shadow dragon etc.. But also racial origins incase you wanted a specific theme for example. Imagine playing as a member of the Carta when you pick dwarf, you get to be a criminal hailing from Orzammar in Fereldan and Dark spawn have ravaged the mountains forcing you to head futher south. I also like the idea that before we actually jumped into the main game there was a "prologue intro" kind of like the start of VG but before you track down solas, it's you playing your actual introduction which could have threw some choices your way which shaped rooks starting personality. The choice mechanics could have been something surreal if the writing team actually put their heads together, if you know the material I'm 1000% certain this game could be fixed and that's why I think They just didn't give a damn
@mspointyears
@mspointyears 2 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed this, thanks! So much more interesting than the lazy one size fits all approach they went with.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Glad ya liked it :) now imagine if I put more than an hour or twos thought into this 🤣 just shows how bad a job BioWare did 😅
@mspointyears
@mspointyears Күн бұрын
@SoulGamesInc Sad that Bioware fumbled this so badly after all of us waiting for so long. I'd love to hear your take on the other origin stories, so I hope your will consider giving it a go :)
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc Күн бұрын
@@mspointyears might do 🤔 first tho I plan to replay the old DAs, wash Veilguards stench off abit lol
@mspointyears
@mspointyears Күн бұрын
@SoulGamesInc lol
@Emanon...
@Emanon... Күн бұрын
Solution: Hire the Larian writers without any corporate oversight.
@Yonniboi
@Yonniboi 2 күн бұрын
This is amazing, I loved listening to this. Dampens the heartache of how bad DA:V’s writing is. I really tried to reach a hook in DA: Veilguard (to give it a chance), but I never found it. This sounds so much better than what we got, it blows my mind how they pissed away all of the potential world building and any decisions we made in prior games.
@mahumia
@mahumia 2 күн бұрын
If Veilguard was a proper RPG, I would play it. Your story sounds very interesting and so much better. Would play it 10/10. Having HOF/Alistair/Loghain show up, depending on who is alive (so both DA:O and DA:I consequence), could be bit of a branch, but would be awesome. And I agree that 'bad endings' are part of roleplay. FAFO and such. Current Rook is not 'your character'. Totally fine with people liking the game as it is, but I mourn the potential it had. I recall discovering DA:O and being unable to continue in Skyrim after that, with how utterly bland the npc's and world is. I need a good story and being able to roleplay in order to get the most out of it. Not some slop that goes above and beyond to crap on the older games and seems made for the children of those who played DA:O/DA:2, instead of well... those original fans. Veilguard would have been fine as a spinoff, but it is an insult as 'follow up' of the story of the worldstate people have been buiding for a long time.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Yeah that's the major fault, Rook simply isn't Your character at all; its BioWare's character and you're just along for the ride - while the game pretends like you have any choice how the game ends lol
@theEisbergmann
@theEisbergmann Күн бұрын
simply being able to fail, makes victory so much more satisfying.
@Frankenberryoneone
@Frankenberryoneone Күн бұрын
I am 6 minutes into this video and this sounds far more interesting than Veilguard (and yes, I did complete Veilguard and found the writing and companions to be its biggest flaw).
@warden-commandercousland
@warden-commandercousland 2 күн бұрын
Go into Autistic detail, it'd make the server so happy
@Desticia-Sisenna
@Desticia-Sisenna 2 күн бұрын
You really do sound very similar to TB, even before you mentioned that you get that a lot that was floating through my head.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
I hear it fairly often yeah :) he was in large part why I ever started doing videos
@frostybaritone
@frostybaritone Күн бұрын
A lot of games nowadays 70% Graphics 5% story 5% gameplay 20% stuff nobody asked for
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc Күн бұрын
Pretty much accurate lol
@dragonhitman1071
@dragonhitman1071 2 күн бұрын
Definitely could of been a good or at least decent addition to dragon age. Unfortunately in my opinion the amount of story changes and undoing of terrible retcons while adding actual meaningful choices and companions that aren't traash is a feat I doubt most would undertake. We might as well make it from scratch. Lol
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Yeah haha that's the vibe I got while making this, that ultimately if I was going to put all the effort into creating everything Veilguard lacks, I might as well create my own fucking RPG lol it's missing so much of what Makes an RPG that fixing it pretty much means creating an RPG xD
@therealone844
@therealone844 2 күн бұрын
I've seen some say Just make this game a Spin off based on Cassandra Trying to write a Good story and after she closes the book Varric and The Inquisitor say "Damn you wasn't kidding when you said your bad at writing stories" 😂
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
Hahaha, I love that :D lets do that 😂
@therealone844
@therealone844 2 күн бұрын
@@SoulGamesInc If Bioware decides to do that just to get Another Retry At Making a Another good Game. All of a sudden Everyone definitely will feel better. This time they will know what the fanbase really want and they'd have a chance to GET it Right.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
@@therealone844 It's a nice dream, but the people in charge of BioWare right now will NEVER accept or admit fault in this :)
@evils222
@evils222 2 күн бұрын
OMG! This dude has made the game 100x times better and more interesting in jsut 8 minutes. I like the idea hunting down the previous game's companion. imagine hunting down Fenris from DA2, because he went rogue and started to kill everyone with no reason whatsoever. Your job is to track him down and either kill him, agree with him, let him go. The game would've been so mcuh better!!!
@livingwatersz
@livingwatersz 2 күн бұрын
fenris could've tied into neve's shadow dragon quest, of fenris going rogue and killing any and all mage in minathrous and neve is trying to hunt him down cause he became a problem omg bioware whyyy
@Monochrome-Melody
@Monochrome-Melody Күн бұрын
Your take on the story really struck me, I so desperately wish it was real. It feels like something from Dragon Age Origins again I don’t even wanna acknowledge Veilguard as it is as part of the Dragon Age universe, but if it was anything like your version then I would’ve bought it in a heartbeat Please do that video going over all of the prologues, I would definitely love to hear your ideas for them
@mariannekelstrup7633
@mariannekelstrup7633 11 сағат бұрын
This is a mich better concept, ofc all the inbetween work, dialogue, characters and such is bare here, but the foundation is infinitely better than what we got. I would pay to play your version.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 9 сағат бұрын
It would naturally take far more expansion upon the concept than this brief summery :) that's a much Much longer video haha
@smb0621
@smb0621 Күн бұрын
Yeah, this one video was way more interesting than anything I’ve seen come out of veilguard. Honestly, the writing was more captivating than inquisition as well-and I liked inquisition!
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc Күн бұрын
Glad you liked it 😇 now imagine if I put more than 30mins of effort into crafting the thing 🤣 might do more videos of a similar nature, put a lot more effort in and present it nicer 🤔
@KaelynRowk
@KaelynRowk 2 күн бұрын
Nice! I like it a lot! I had an idea that when two gods are free, one of them is in full power and the other one is weak, damaged. They are competitors for power and the weak god seeks your alliance. If you take the risk he will provide some lore and help you to defeat the strong God. But afterwards he betrays you, consuming powers of a defeated God and turning into a new enemy. Alternatively if you refuse the alliance, the weak god will be luring in the shadows until it can steal power. The fight is harder and you lose some lore insights
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
@@KaelynRowk should totally be a whole path/plot around turning the gods against eachother - could be cool and makes sense too
@possiblepuzzles8137
@possiblepuzzles8137 2 күн бұрын
Ah man, a prologue would absolutely regain much of Origin's potential 😩 especially with that dwarf origin you mentioned (just imagine exploring the society that necessitated every citizen to basically become a warden!)
@biancapeaches6791
@biancapeaches6791 23 сағат бұрын
Please do part 2 I’m enjoying your origins story more than the game 😩
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 20 сағат бұрын
I'll probably do more :) put more effort into the next one(s) tho ha This was very spur of the moment and basic by my standards :)
@baertmaxime5720
@baertmaxime5720 13 сағат бұрын
I love this video, I wish I had the means to buy this franchise and put together a team that would cook a massive update for the game following your ideas!
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 12 сағат бұрын
By that point, might as well make your own IP ha fill the gap in the Dark Fantasy market :)
@andrzejchmielewski392
@andrzejchmielewski392 Күн бұрын
I wish you were a writer in Bioware, that sounds just amazing!👍🏻
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc Күн бұрын
They'd fire me in less than a day for being "too dark" and "problematic" lol
@TheNerjaveika
@TheNerjaveika 4 сағат бұрын
I'd definitely love to play version you described
@Trainer-uh1zf
@Trainer-uh1zf Күн бұрын
That prologue story and others with that form of depth sounds like what could've been DA: Origins 2.
@joelquinn5347
@joelquinn5347 2 күн бұрын
The sad part is that this incompetency of meaningful and real writing just goes well with saving money, because you do not have the reflect real diversity inside the game and can stick to the one way it plays out.. So i doubt it would be that easy to fix it but you could massively improve with dialoque changes, even if they had not much more relevance than the game actions have right now. At least the dialogues would be somewhat bareable in this game.
@jeppenielsen1318
@jeppenielsen1318 2 күн бұрын
More videos on this topic would be fantastic- just subscribed in hopes of more
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
I might do more :) but for now, replaying the old games; need a moment away from Veilguards stench lol
@RobertoDTavares
@RobertoDTavares 2 күн бұрын
I have a better solution: delete and forget.
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
That works too lmao
@whitneyholland3703
@whitneyholland3703 4 сағат бұрын
Yes! Please! More of this!!!! I will listen to every story! (And beg Bioware to hire you)
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 3 сағат бұрын
BioWare would fire me in less than 24hrs for my ideas being "too dark" and "problematic" lol but glad you enjoyed the vide :) if I do more similar videos to this, they'll have more effort put it :D
@whitneyholland3703
@whitneyholland3703 2 сағат бұрын
@SoulGamesInc Dark and problematic would be a grateful change! 🤣
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 47 минут бұрын
@whitneyholland3703 for You and I perhaps but the average BioWare employee would faint if I so much as wrote a character that was even a little morally grey 🤣
@byronrocher7346
@byronrocher7346 Күн бұрын
Instant sub, great storytelling!
@oleh_lunin
@oleh_lunin 2 күн бұрын
That's a very enticing plot, but one thing is a bit concerning -- it still leaves the Elven Gods as the cause of the Blights. If so, then the fact that the number of blights is limited by 7 would probably be false, since they can essentially corrupt any dragon. So... there'd have to be something underlining the "last blight" argument. I mean, even if the rest of the world thinks that there can't be any more blights, the protagonist would know different...
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc 2 күн бұрын
If I 100% HAD to at gunpoint have a connection between the Elven Gods and the Old Gods, then I'd probably spin some tale related to the Forgotten ones (the group of Elven Gods opposed to the ones Solas imprisoned) have these Forgotten ones enslaved, twisted, blighted and bound to the bodies of Elder Dragons - so once the Blight wakes them up, these screaming tormented spirits/souls rage to the surface and seek to destroy everything. This could be why Morrigan/Flem wanted to "free" one such soul, uncorrupted, freed of the elven gods corrupted. That's if I 1000% HAD to included the tie to the Elves at all. With the Blight being a force of unknown twisted majesty seized from the Void that even the Elves struggled to control rather than being a mere tool they wield with ease...
@GryBabskimOkiem
@GryBabskimOkiem Күн бұрын
Can I please, please, please play THIS game instead of whatever Veilguard is? Also can we have the rest of the story? I'm invested now! Honestly this is such a breath of fresh air. I can't stand the mockery of origin stories we've been presented with in this game. I played as a Crow. A minor member of the organization, who defied authority (of the CROWS ffs!), and somehow was still alive and well, and not even on the run...
@SoulGamesInc
@SoulGamesInc Күн бұрын
I may do a "Can I Fix" for each backstory 🤔 we'll see, want to replay the original DAs first lol
@GryBabskimOkiem
@GryBabskimOkiem Күн бұрын
@@SoulGamesInc Hell, yes! If you've got the time, please, do
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