Can Jesus ONLY Be Found in One Religion? // Jared Halverson & Hello Saints

[@reillydevine12]

Bro Halverson is a huge reason I was baptized!

[@StandBlameless]

What a profound response. Thank you Parker for your dedication to sharing excellent content, and thank you Jared Halverson for your testimony and experiences that really lift the fog of misunderstanding. "Permanent bad news is against my religion; I just don't believe in it". Neither do I Jared. Love it.

[@rogerchilders1770]

I have family members that have left the church and fortunately have found Christ as Evangelicals. There are so many wonderful people in so many different religions and I thank God that there are. I just wish that someday rather than receiving just a portion they could choose to receive the whole feast in the restored gospel.

[@Azriel640]

I believe there isn’t a single person in the church who hasn’t had family members or friends leave for one reason or another. To me, it’s all about covenants; covenant connection to Heavenly Father which gives us greater access to the Atonement of Jesus Christ as we allow the Holy Ghost to sanctify us through those covenants. People lose those blessings when they step away and choose not to come back into convenant relationship with God.

[@tsmithson1]

@@Azriel640 Why is it only possible for someone within the LDS church to have that depth of relationship you describe as "Covenants". And, please tell me why the pluralization of the word "Covenant(s)" when it's only used in the singular form in the Bible?

[@DivinePearl]

That's remarkable that they stayed within a Christian faith. All friends and family I've known that has left the church are athiest or agnostic. Some are very anti Christian as well. So its interesting that those you know went evangelical and stayed with Christ.

[@rogerchilders1770]

Staying within the Christian faith is certainly not the norm. Other members are still friendly to the church but have chosen to follow their own path. I was inactive for 13 years but returned because of a spiritual witness I received years before. I found the reason I became inactive was because other things became more important and I was not actively "nourishing the seed".

[@timwrightfamily740]

I keep thinking lately about how God wants to give us all the glory we can hold. He wants us to be happy with whatever law we can obey and are comfortable with. He doesn’t want to force anything on any of his children. He wants us to choose where we will be happy.

[@thewildroots4491]

I feel like my son might not stay in the church or be active after he moves out. But one thing he knows how to do is pray. That brings me comfort

[@loudogg73]

For me, it breaks my heart when anyone leaves the church. It's worse when someone abandons Christ altogether but there is still a great loss when leaving the restored gospel.

[@TheWildernessLife]

Absolutely

[@Mike-ly7ev]

I really get worked up and worried about people leaving the church. Especially, family members and a wife I love dearly. I just know it’s the best and surest place to be. I guess I need to lighten up and know Heavenly Father and the Savior know their sheep and will work to help those who have chosen other paths.

[@DesertMouse298]

It is heartbreaking because they are rejecting the fullness of the Gospel. However, the restoration is beautiful in the hope it gives for the next life and the Kingdoms in Heaven. Coming from an Evangelical background, what we have has more hope when people walk away then what I was raised believing was true. In that faith, you really have no faith when someone walks away. Their eternity is going to be spent living forever in Hell and their idea of Hell is horrifying. Hopefully thus perspective helps.

[@TravisGrant-q9f]

What church ?

[@loudogg73]

@@TravisGrant-q9f The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

[@alexmunro2640]

As President Henckley said bring what you have and let us add to it. Bring what you have found and know about Jesus Christ and let us add to it.

[@sagesaith6354]

When you have pure gold, if you add anything to it, it becomes less pure, less valuable -- less "true". Yes, they add to the gospel of Jeus Christ -- but what they add is not true, nor truth.

[@Laurentdu59]

Funny, this morning I was thinking, "Is Pastor Jeff resisting the Spirit of Truth and confidence in the Truth so obvious in his conversations with faithful Latter-day Saints?" And this video showed up. We truly have the Pearl of Great Price.

[@evanwalton5965]

Pastor Jeff is an ANTI-CHRIST. He has no intent of over sincerely seeking Christ through the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He's said as much. He's not looking to learn. He's looking to attach and earn. But in a way that's soft enough to not openly come across as aggressive.

[@creativegenecircle]

I have received in private prayer what you have said here brother halverson. You speak truth🙂

[@davidfrey5654]

Wow! What an amazing explanation from Brother Halverson about the paradoxes that the gospel of Jesus Christ holds. I've never heard it put so eloquently.

[@jodie672]

Brother Halverson is a spiritual giant! We are so blessed to have him.

[@AnaliliB]

Jared Halverson is a national treasure. ❤❤❤❤❤

[@CleoandCoco]

It is so apparent that Jared Halverson has put so much thought, prayer and study into the things that he talks about.

[@mnasella23]

I would like him to return the same question at Pastor Jeff and see how he responds if he is okay with someone leaving protestantism/evangelicalism or catholicism and finds Jesus in the lds faith

[@dcarts5616]

And in typical soft LDS culture like much of what comes from Halverson, he is put on defense and buckles when presented with the opportunity to make a point that could change to us being on offense. Our numbers sadly will shrink whether or not we keep bowing to the PJs and others. 😢

[@RandyMills-o7w]

Yes. This question was strategic, because his end goal appears to be exactly that.

[@davidfrey5654]

He would not say that person is damned (but I think he still believes it in his heart). He has said in other videos that he does not think that LDS members are going to hell.

[@xrpreacher6000]

​@@dcarts5616 Why would we want to be on the offensive? What point is there in contentiousness? I believe Jared Halverson truly demonstrated Christ-like love, the way the Savior would have us all do, while still bearing testimony to the truthfulness of the ongoing restoration. That is covenant Christianity which Jared is demonstrating, not merely cultural Christianity which only seeks to "be right". Cultural Christianity is akin to the very same culture in which Pharisees and Sadducees sought only to "be right" and would continually strive and contend on the offensive. That is quite literally the way they treated the Savior of the world. Constantly seeking to be on offense. Well, they did their best to offend Him, but He loved them anyway, and actually chose to suffer and die for them in Gethsemane and on the cross despite their offensive attitudes and behaviors towards them. I pray you'll see Jared Halverson as the kind of peacemaker our beloved Prophet has asked us all to be. Take care now. May God bless you as you seek to understand other people's hearts and minds.

[@Candy-sy6eo]

Wonderful answer! Thanks to both of these wonderful heros for loving the Lord and sharing together!

[@veritasrestituta812]

I wish all hello saints videos were Jared Halverson laying down truth and Jeff saying hmmm beautiful

[@claytondaddy]

That’s too easy

[@evanwalton5965]

Though I'm no fan of Jared Halverson, it would be better for sure. Hello Saints is a channel that profits from softly attacking and tearing down the church, and sowing seeds of doubt in members who lack testimony.

[@dcarts5616]

Right! Since I watched Halverson and Emily Bell Freeman skip over the Family Proclamation the way they did a few years ago, I’ve found I can’t trust most of these squishy corporate entity podcasters.

[@rconger24]

Hope Brother Jared Halverson feels these hours were well spent.

[@stacyhuss9454]

@@dcarts5616that was David Butler, I believe, not Jared Halverson. Brother Halverson has a Come Follow Me lesson each week called Unshaken.

[@jevpioquinto4325]

Christ can be found everywhere. He is for everyone. Regardless of background, culture, religion and ethnicity. ❤

[@Kaydubbbb]

How do people across multiple religious backgrounds covenant with Christ to always remember Him and keep His commandments?

[@jevpioquinto4325]

@@Kaydubbbb in time, every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess…

[@Kaydubbbb]

@@jevpioquinto4325 yes! That is so true 😊 how does it look when people from many cultures covenant with Christ? What Is the Christian culture after covenant?

[@Motlatsi]

I pray mine is not the compelled knee.

[@jevpioquinto4325]

@@Motlatsi it won’t be… you’ll find yourself doing such voluntarily

[@aubreyb700]

Jared Halverson is working wonders among the Saints! This was so well stated, and quite profound. Thank you all for sharing.

[@Mrsthackeray]

I love the point of LDS being an "offspring" of Catholicism and protestantism. I always thought that, too! The restoration ties Christianity and Judaism together. Love love

[@codykoplin5337]

I love both of them! Omg Jordan Halverson and Parker thank you for your faith!

[@DaisyMay222]

Beautifully said! 🌸

[@minxarelli]

Beautifully stated ❤

[@confusedwhynot]

I testify that God loves all his children regardless of their background. That He know each one of us more fully than we know ourselves. That His light is given to all men. That divine truth is accessible to all. I love my brothers and sisters around the world regardless of ethnic, culture, political, or religious background. I honestly think that the divide was deeply rooted in pride for many generations because people were unwilling to see others as God sees us. I am grateful for my parents and grandparents who raised me to love with a Christ-like love. I am so grateful that these brothers are communicating together.

[@fightingfortruth9806]

Does God love Satan and his demons? They are his offspring too. If so, how does he demonstrate his love for them?

[@tsmithson1]

@@fightingfortruth9806 Are you conflating Satan with fellow Christians that simply have a different Theology?

[@rethinkingjesus]

I respect your views of being happy if a person leaves your religion and finds Jesus Christ in another religion. I personally left Evangelical Christianity after many decades and found Jesus Christ outside any organized Religious System of Belief.

[@ItsSnagret]

Amazingly well said 🙏🏼

[@GldnClaw]

Good seeing you again.

[@ItsSnagret]

@@GldnClaw what up my dude 🫶🏼

[@jerry_phillips]

Great completion of their discussion. Thank you for your contribution!

[@ColtonJPrice]

Brother Halverson giving Pastor Jeff something to think about.

[@CatchTheBuzz1]

Hello Saints has been pushed by You Tube to me many times in the past. I would think about it for a second but would feel the prompting to stay away. Just The image on his channel of him holding the Book of Mormon really bothers me. Because he is in fact targeting us. He has ill intentions but not all see it. If he was really about helping, he wouldn't focus his channel on The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

[@johngaudy]

Unless he truly believes the doctrine of the LDS Church would in fact help you and make you happier. It's not like Hello Saints gets a commission from the LDS Church when he gains a new subscriber or someone who gets baptized. The point is that ya I guess he is targeting you, but not for any nefarious purpose. Just like Pastor Jeff is targeting LDS people who maybe feel estranged/exhausted/whatever from the LDS Church but still want a connection to Christ. Or just like Christ may be targeting you to follow Him better. I don't think there is any ill intention to be found

[@hrv4908]

Excellent video. We all live at different levels in this life and will do so in the next. Some just put more effort into living the gospel than others do.

[@davidfrey5654]

Rather than "levels" I like to think of it as progress. It's horizontal (progress) rather than levels (vertical). Eventually, if we all chart a course on the straight and narrow, no matter how slow we go, we'll all get to the same place.

[@hrv4908]

The point is staying on the straight and narrow, which leads to eternal life, but many will not choose the straight and narrow, hence the three degrees of glory. Even the Celestial kingdom has degrees/levels.

[@jevpioquinto4325]

I pray Pastor Jeff would soon become a Member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. 😇

[@bencollett5166]

Wouldn’t it be cool? but also, isn’t it amazing what he is doing now?! Helping non member and members alike come together in a safe place to be curious of each other and not judgmental. That might be even more influential than if he just was baptized as a member of the LDS church.

[@Laurentdu59]

He should. The tares will leave the Covenant Path while people like David Alexander will find the Path. Just like there were humble and faithful Lamanites at the same time there were Nephite apostates. 🙏

[@evanwalton5965]

If you see some of his videos, Pastor Jeff makes it absolutely clear he's not on a faith journey or interested in joining the Church. He's a modern day Book of Mormon style Anti-Christ. He's seeking to make his living through attacking the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He does not honestly represent us. He twists everything. He will be held accountable for all the opportunity he's had should he not ultimately repent.

[@rconger24]

​@@Laurentdu59 "It's David again."

[@jodie672]

@@rconger24😂❤

[@tacticplanner7188]

My absolute favorite thing about Joseph Smith is that he made the Savior accessible to me. I can have his presence with me all the time, and I can not curse Joseph just for that reason and so many more. I feel that he showed me the way to my Savior, and now I can not imagine life without Him.

[@Whatiftheresmore1314]

Next level! Thanks Jared and Parker! ❤️

[@jenneferc8768]

I tell this to people all the time. It's a mix of Protestant and Catholicism. ❤I was raised catholic and felt this way.

[@snowmj]

This was refreshing

[@debfryer2437]

Well said Brother Halverson!😇

[@skyholman]

Awesome message!

[@kareemhetaraka-brown1259]

What a response!! Horrrah for Isreal

[@Lincoln-k3e999]

We aren't looking for "comfort" we are to receive the doctrine of Christ which is found NOWHERE ELSE!! The Lord’s Church is built on the rock of revelation, without the laying on of hands by those in authority you are void of the Holy Ghost who is a revelator. "How blessed we are to live at a time when the priesthood is upon the earth and we can receive the Holy Ghost." David A. Bednar

[@Vetionarian]

It breaks my heart when someone gets lost in the weeds of history and makes historical events their main focus instead of the fruits of the Restored church of Jesus Christ. "A corrupt fruit cannot produce good fruit." -Jesus Christ I will never the leave church because the fruits are SO good in refining me and my family in discipleship

[@AnaliliB]

Brother Halverson will be a General Authority at dome poinr. ❤

[@kathleenwharton2139]

Jesus is Peace through Forgiveness. Anybody Can Forgive 😊❤

[@daviddrysdale8882]

Quite often, in my opinion, those who leave The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will take with them a rich and powerful doctrinal wealth of knowledge... Answers to questions about premortal life, our trials as part of our mortal probation, a simple approach, and framework for praying, the blessing of fasting, the call to serve others, recognizing the still small voice, etc. He or she may leave, but they are not leaving the truths they learned!

[@GlenLawlor]

Thank you Parker!

[@GarySaint-xm6tr]

The reason God told Joseph Smith that all the religious creeds are an abomination in His sight during the first vision, and the reason the Book of Mormon teaches that there are only two churches, the Church of the Lamb of God and the Church of the Devil, is because all churches, except for the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints teach that marriage cannot be forever. We were single and separate as spirit sons and daughters of God, and if we adhere to the beliefs of all other religions we will be single and separate as immortals, this giving Satan a hugh victory over the spirit sons and daughters of God, and causing them to waste their mortal life. We were pretty amazing as only spirits. We could sing, shout for joy, recognize Abraham, and Lazarus, as the rich man did, while the rich man was tormented, and Lazarus comforted in Abraham's boosom, we can repent of many sins as a spirit, we can love, hate, forgive. Christ created heaven and earth as a spirit. Jeremiah was ordained and sanctified as a spirit. The only things we cannot do as a spirit is eat, drink, and copulalte. This is the reason we want a body, to have the relationship of mariage forever, like Adam and Eves relationship was designed to be. Any misunderstanding of the Bible teching on marriage in heaven is just that, a misunderstanding of the Bible. We know this, because we would not even want an immortal body if having a body did not give us an ability that we do not have as just a spirit. The one and only ability that having a mortal body gives us is the ability to copulalte. Romans6:9 Christ hath dominion over death, He dieth no more.

[@Kaydubbbb]

This is a harsh Gary-ism. Not official doctrine. You are not an apostle. Possibly a plant doing harm. 1 Corinthians 14:37-38

[@GarySaint-xm6tr]

@@Kaydubbbb How is it not? Christ really did say all the churches that existed at the time of the first vision are an abomination in His sight. Christ really did say there are only two churches, the church of the Devil, and the Church of the Lamb of God in the Book of Mormon. Lazarus and the Rich man.( Luke 26:19-31 KJV) We absolutely do not need a body. The Bible also teaches that everyone, regardless of beliefs or the absence thereof, will be resurrected and immortal. If you look at how increasable we are as spirits, we can do almost everything, you would ask yourself, Why do we need a body? Jeremiah was ordained and sanctified a prophet unto the nations as a spirit. ( Jeremiah 1: 5). We sang and shouted for joy when the earth was created as spirits. (Job 38: 4,7). We can repent as spirits. See (2 Peter 3: 18-20, and 4:6). Christ created the earth and all things as a Spirit. We fought in a war in heaven as spirits. We can dance, song, praise God, love, hate. Forgive, as spirits We can do all things as spirits, except copulalte. The purpose for mortality is to see if we can be trusted with an immortal body of flesh and bones that has sexual organs, like Adam and Eve had in the garden of Eden in the presence of God. Because of the atonement of Jesus Christ, after we are immortal even God will not be able to kill us. Why? Because He said so in( Corinthians 15). The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. We are mortal, because we are being given a chance to see if we can be trusted with an immortal body that has sexual organs that can never be changed, not even by God, and can never be killed, not even by God. There would be no point in us having an immortal body of flesh and bones, if an immortal body did not give us an ability that we do not have as spirits only. That one thing. The only thing, that we cannot do as spirits is copulalte. The purpose of life is to qualify for an eternal marriage, like the pattern of Adam and Eve in the Garden. We already know what heaven will be like, by the example in the garden of Eden. That was to never end, and because of Christ's atonement it will never end for many. All other Churches teach that marriage cannot be forever. So how is this just a Gary ism? I've written a book about this, by the way. RETURN TO THE GARDEN OF EDEN GOD WILL MAKE US IMMORTAL. In (Revelation 12 KJV) we read about a war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought and Satan and his angels fought. Satan and his angels were cast down to the earth. They are here! Every time you read of a person being possessed by one or more devils, they are being possessed by one or more of those angels who were kicked out of heaven. In Luke we read about the man in the tombs. When Jesus asked the name of the devils possessing the man, they said Legion. They asked to possess the bodies of pigs, rather than being cast out into the abyss. Do they hate us, because we have a body and they will never have one? Yes!!!!!!! Are they jealous of us because we have a body and they can never have one? Yes!!!!! Are they at war with us, because we have a body and they can never have one? Yes!!!!!!! We have a body, because we are the 2 thirds of the angels , stars, sons of God that kicked them out of heaven!!!!!!!! We were single and separate as spirits, which is a church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints teaching, and if we adhere to the teachings of other churches, we will be single and separate as immortals, which is a waste of our mortal life. There will be no real advantage to having a body, if we can do nothing more with it than we can do as spirits. Romans 6: 9 states: " Christ hath dominion over death, he dieth no more." Christ was not castrated when He was resurrected. Christ created heaven and earth as a spirit,why would He even want a body? Not having a body is obviously a punishment for the devils. God the Father of Jesus Christ s body, does not suffer the punishment of the devils to not have a body. Christ appeared in the middle of a closed room with His body of flesh and bones. If it had not been for the fall of Adam, we would have been born immortal, and no laws could be written, because no laws could be enforced. No bullet, or bolder, or jail, or prison, could hold anyone. We would be unteachable!!!!!!!! Adam fell, that man might be, and man is that he might have joy. That is what the Book of Mormon teaches, and it is true!!!!! You stepped into a ring way out of your weight class when you said that is a Gary ism. Humble yourself, and learn from me, because I learned from Joseph Smith, who learned from Christ. I just destroyed all of the main teachings of evangelicalism by what Christ taught Joseph Smith.

[@tsmithson1]

@@GarySaint-xm6tr Did Jesus really say that or is that what Joseph Smith said that he said? That kind of superiority complex is hardly new or unique in history. To claim everyone else is an abomination is a self-serving ploy that is completely predictable. It's completely nonsensical to think that the God of the entire Universe appointed ONE little modern institution with "All" of the truth, that suggests the LDS church is now omnipotent, which unfortunately appears to be easily debunked.

[@GarySaint-xm6tr]

@@tsmithson1 I see we have some miscommunication. Neither God nor I said that there is only one church with all the truth. In fact the church teaches that most churches have truth, some a lot of truth, and some less. The doctrine that makes all other churches an abomination in the sight of God is that all churches teach that marriage cannot be eternal. This is the very reason we want a body. We absolutely do not need a body. We are very capable as spirits. Christ created heaven and earth as a Spirit. With our abilities as spirits, why would we or Christ want a body? If we were not able to do something that we cannot as a spirit, it would be pointless to have a body. The only thing that would require a mortal test that we can do with a body that we cannot do as a spirit is copulalte. This is the only advantage to having a body over only being a spirit. If a churches doctrine, however much good is in it, and there is much good in most churches, excludes the very thing we are here on earth to do, then that church defeats our purpose, and God's purpose for us. Know does it make sense?

[@jodie672]

Wooooo” you go Brother Halverson!! 🙌✋

[@wa1den]

It's certainly true that some do leave the restored church attempting to "find Jesus" somewhere else.... there have always been some who "can't see the forest for the trees"

[@coydogdentist]

Leaving the LDS church to be an evangelical is moving from the Celestial kingdom to the Terrestrial kingdom. Evangelicals are wonderful people, and the Terrestrial kingdom is a wonderful place. What would be heartbreaking is to leave the LDS faith and live a Telestial life. That is when our hearts break.

[@ktuttle87]

Amazing

[@SaxSpy]

hello saints is a snake. sitting this one out

[@evanwalton5965]

Amen. He's an ANTI-CHRIST!

[@dcarts5616]

I usually do too, but I watch almost 100% of what Parker puts out. Thankfully PJ doesn’t talk much in this video. Go watch it! He’s a good man, but I can’t excuse what he’s doing.

[@rconger24]

​​@@dcarts5616Go Parker. And David Alexander has the experience and discernment to see right through that guy on the left.

[@CatchTheBuzz1]

I agree. I accidentally heard his voice in a David Alexander video once and I just felt ill and do even now thinking about it

[@jodie672]

In that 4 minute clip Brother Halverson burns him! You gotta watch it just for that. PJ is squirming in the presence of a spiritual giant 💪

[@1820Vision]

Can we get the full conversation here or was this it? I love hearing open discussions like this.

[@ParkerWalbeck]

Link in description 👍

[@rabinredulla8798]

Wonderful❤

[@Lincoln-k3e999]

"No man has power to administer in any of the ordinances of the Gospel without the Priesthood" Wilford Woodruff Sacred covenants and ordinances come with promised blessings / fruits. "Finding Christ" anywhere else WILL NOT be the same experience.

[@chetankothari6751]

Peace be to all 🙏☘️🌺

[@ktuttle87]

Can you take the section where he talks about the appendages actually helping to reach out to Jesus and create a clip like this with that section?

[@sjstlaurent]

What I’ve noticed is when they leave they find their own version of Jesus.

[@BookofTiffaneeStories]

The gospel and the Church are equally important. You can't have one without the other. Finding Jesus is great, but without priesthood keys there isn't access to the full blessings of His atoning sacrifice. Having a relationship with God and loving Him is crucial, but it doesn't replace essential ordinances and covenants that prevent us from suffering for our own sins, or from being with our families forever, or from eternal progression.

[@cara2550]

"but it doesn't replace essential ordinances and covenants that prevent us from suffering for our own sins" I'm not sure about this statement. Christ died and suffered for our sins. If we have to do certain ordinances and covenants to prevent us from suffering for our sin, doesn't that completely defeat the whole point of Jesus? I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died for nothing. Galatians 2:21 This right here is pretty clear that we need grace and if we rely on the law to get be with God and our eternal families, then Christ died for nothing. I think the misconception is that people will get lazy with their faith and think grace is all they need, but I see that all the time in the church. People will check the boxes but they don't tend to where their hearts are. IDKI just disagree on the dismissiveness of people leaving and feeling sad. My holy envy is that we don't rely on grace enough.

[@BookofTiffaneeStories]

@@cara2550 "Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only." - James 2:24 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." - Matthew 7:21 "And [Jesus] said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." - Mark 16:15-16 "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." - John 3:5 "And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord." - Acts 22:16 "For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." - Matthew 6:14-15 "Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: ... And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire." - Matthew 3:8, 10 "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." - Luke 13:5 "But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." - Matthew 12:36-37 "For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works." - Matthew 16:27 "And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." - Matthew 19:16-17 "And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great." - Luke 6:46-49 "What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone." - James 2:14-17 There are many, many more Bible verses that teach the doctrine of the need for faith AS WELL AS repentance, baptism for the remission of sins, and righteousness to receive salvation. It is not works that save us. Without Jesus Christ and His Atonement, nothing we could do could save us. It is the grace of Christ that justifies us from our sins, but we ACCESS that grace and forgiveness in the way that He taught: through faith in Him, repentance from our sins, and being baptized by one in authority and receive the gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands, and enduring to the end in faith and righteousness. That is the gospel Jesus taught.

[@cara2550]

@@BookofTiffaneeStories We are justified through Christ and sanctified through our works. So yes, saved by Jesus and grace. Our works are reflections of our faith in Christ. Faith without works is dead means that if you say you are a follower of Christ and you are going around acting a fool and not actually a changed person in your works / behavior, then your faith is dead and means nothing. When we have faith we are moved into action and to work. Through our actions we are sanctified and we grow. By no means though are we saved by what we do. I think faith and works go hand in hand, but I don’t think the works part is limited to one denomination. Christ taught so much about the spirit of the law and so I believe what we are called to do is to be good people. 16 and yet because we know that a person is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we ourselves have believed in Christ Jesus. This was so that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no human being will be justified. Galatians For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Ephesians To be justified is to be made righteous and the whole arch of the bible is that we can't do that ourselves, thus it is through Christ alone we are justified. We can go back and forth with verses selected to drive home our points, but that doesn't give the full picture reading of the Bible. It's because of my understanding of how the Bible (and even the Book of Mormon) comes together as a whole that I struggle with the Church claiming to be the only way to get to God and that it's by faith and a series of works. That closes a lot of doors on good Christians outside of the church and I just don't think God and the atonement is that limited. It also means that members find themselves not believing others have a full relationship with Jesus outside of the church, which I find offensive. Anywho, I appreciate you taking the time to pull those scriptures and to share your understanding of it all!

[@nathanschaupp9709]

Amen. 🕊️

[@TroySchoonover]

Jeff: It would be okay if I tried to steal a bunch of your members, right? Y’all are too nice to be mad, and besides, I gotta fill the pews with somebody in my new church in Utah, or I can’t get that check, am’right?

[@evanwalton5965]

Just wish that bold testimony of the restoration and the Book of Mormon could be shared. Instead of testimony mingled with logic. If i encountered pastor jeff he would be faced with my testimony. I would witness of the truths of the gospel. And of the restoration..... that said, the only way to successfully have an interview with pastor jeff would be to control the editing so you can finally state the truth without him taking it out and attacking it.

[@tsmithson1]

Is that what you believe the gospel of Jesus Christ is? Testifying of your ideological and Theological views? So what if you boldly testify of cognitive ideas if it never actually creates the kind of people and the kind of relationships which constitute Heaven. This heavy handed approach only perpetuates the tribalistic problems Jesus was trying to eradicate.

[@evanwalton5965]

@tsmithson1 I'd invite you to spend more time watching general conference talks spending back a few decades. Take some time to understand how the gospel is to be taught according to scripture and modern day prophets. I'd also invite you to truly truly ponder what the prophet Joseph Smith would say to these questions. Simple and powerful testimony would've been better.

[@emilybailey4283]

If a person left the latter day Saint church and joined an evagelical church it is almost always because they found acceptance in the evangelical church.

[@Lincoln-k3e999]

20 Now this is the commandment: Repent, all ye ends of the earth, and come unto me and be baptized in my name, that ye may be sanctified by the reception of the Holy Ghost, that ye may stand spotless before me at the last day. If anyone rejects this commandment they reject the reception of the Holy Ghost they reject the spirit of prophecy they reject the process of sanctification in a nutshell they reject the intended fruits in the gospel. If you want to "find Christ" why not go where He is being revealed ¿¿ "Divine revelation is one of the grandest concepts and principles of the gospel of Jesus Christ, for without it, man could not know of the things of God"

[@Kaydubbbb]

It’s much easier to enjoy the common ground with less realijeous bigautree

[@EricSmyth4Christ]

“If you leave Mormonism, run to Christ.” -2 Nephi 33;10 ; GT

[@Motlatsi]

I don't understand how a vigilant latter-day Saint would leave such a beautiful comprehensive thing. There is nothing that matches the restored Gospel. I often wonder how can it be that so many Americans fall away & have a faith crisis when the Gospel Center is in your homeland. Prophets are near you, but you don't see them. Temples are near you, across the street. I don't understand this phenomenon. From South Africa.

[@chetankothari6751]

Amen 🙏☘️🌺

[@johnfaris5376]

If I am brutally honest as a guy pushing 70, the most “Christian” people I have have encountered have been LDS. Not all of course but devout Mormons just seem to have a glow, a goodness that I don’t find to the same degree among evangelicals. If it weren’t for things about that faith I find indefensible I would pursue it.

[@tmccausland]

Hello John. I’m glad your experience with the Latter-day Saints has been positive. Jesus said that by their fruits you will know them. Good fruit only comes from that which is good. The things about our faith that you say are indefensible - I might encourage you to suspend disbelief for a time, come to church with us, study the Book of Mormon, learn more about our history and doctrine and you might discover it’s not all so indefensible after all. I believe you will find Jesus, His love, and truth in its fullness in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. God bless.

[@plantsonlycindy5809]

@@johnfaris5376 With respect to you, I’m curious to know what you believe is indefensible about the LDS faith. I feel that this True Millennium platform has a less aggressive audience than many others on KZbin, where there is a more mutual respect of trying to understand one another, although there are some who disagree. If we can learn together, even in the end there might still be misunderstanding or disagreement, it’s okay. 🙏🏻

[@johnfaris5376]

@@tmccausland I have responded in some detail below, perhaps you could read that and share your perspective.

[@tmccausland]

@@johnfaris5376 I’m not seeing your response. Please respond directly to the thread and I’ll be able to see it.

[@Lincoln-k3e999]

We have love and respect for everyone yet that doesn't mean you can "find Christ" outside of his Church ¿¿ It all depends on what you believe "finding Christ" means. Comfort a nice place to worship doctrine you agree with etc.. ?? What exactly are we talking about here?

[@catherinemcdavid1533]

G.K. Chesterton was not LDS. I will leave it at that. 🙏

[@levi5459]

I think if we focus on what we have in common.. The foundation which is Christ… We push that one domino together and keep away from falling into contention and focusing on all our differences, Christ will take care of funneling and aligning us into the same path because he is the gate and if we are focusing and walking towards him we are all coming closer together just by walking towards him. We forget that and we start picking each other apart then we will complicate and make it needlessly difficult and the Devi will continue to scatter us all abroad from each other and we will continue to have misunderstandings and misconceptions and distrust and distractions.. No. “It looks like you believe in Christ and you’re determined to follow him.. Is that right? Great.. That’s all I need to know.. Let’s go.” And we leave all the loose ends that are beyond our control to Christ who has all control and he’ll take care of all the rest of that stuff in his own time and in his own way. There is a reason he put us in circumstances where we come from different places and see things a little differently and I think it’s so we can learn and grow from each other. The puzzle can be put together by keeping the focus on Christ or the puzzle can remain shattered by fixating on all the ways we are different

[@Lincoln-k3e999]

You need to clarify what it means to "find Jesus" ¿¿

[@Mike-rt2vp]

Did Jesus found more than one religion

[@DevonFine-mz8cu]

😮❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@kentskoien7583]

No - not if you just want to know about Him. And yes, if you want to know Him in the way He talked about it in Jn.17:3. That can only happen if you are a member of His true Church; the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Did Jesus and the Father show themselves to the founder of your church, Jeff ? Was he authorised to found that church by the authority of the Holy Priesthood of God ? When ? And did Jesus appear to the founder of your church several times later ? Who is your prophet ? Or apostles? Do they receive guidance from our Saviour contiually ?

[@ArcherFilmProd]

Le Christ se laisse trouver par ceux qui le recherche vraiment

[@Lincoln-k3e999]

"Finding Jesus Christ" anywhere else is not the same experience, you simply can't preach something like that without the rejection of doctrine ¿¿ I don't believe his utterances are coming from above.

[@Lincoln-k3e999]

"Found Jesus" means what exactly ¿¿ The intended fruits of the gospel are found in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, you can't water down this reality ¿¿

[@hollayevladimiroff131]

The bible is the gospel, if we do not have the gospel, we do not have God. The bible is His word, it is the truth, He is the author, Mormonism says Jesus is created but Christ is not created, He is infinite, creatures are finite. There is nothing in the bible that says Jesus is created, but it does say He was before the foundation of the world. Mormonism says there is a restored church, but the gospel never went anywhere, it has always remained, it has always been, it is now and forever. The gospel never changes, it is immutable, just like God. Once someone starts adding and taking away from the gospel, you no longer have God. The bible is an actual embodiment of divine revelation. The reason the bible is the only rule of faith and practice is because Christians believe it was delegated by the Lord, who's rule it is. The word of God does not fail or err. This is why it the church recognized that the books of the canon have binding authority overall, no other book has this authority.

[@plantsonlycindy5809]

@@hollayevladimiroff131 With respect to you, Mormonism is a nickname not authorized by the LDS faith, it is what the world calls the faith. The Bible is God’s word. It is written by prophets who knew Jesus Christ. They are His words. There is no dispute there among the LDS faith. Jesus Christ is the Son of God. The LDS faith believes this and their resources on their website says everything. People who are not believers or members of the LDS faith at times lack understanding, but that’s okay too. Everything is on their website. 🙏🏻

[@KarenKennedy-lq8nt]

Jesus found in own heart! No organized set of rules is needed.

[@rconger24]

Except for the organized set of rules in scripture that Jesus himself laid out. Am amazed that many Christians and even some Church members think that we can become perfect in Christ without The Church that He specified!

[@VICTOR7oh2]

Commandments aren't "rules" 🤦‍♂️

[@davidfrey5654]

Perhaps your perspective of rules might need a little shifting. Commandments are invitations from God to receive more of his blessings he wants you to have. You can live the commandments and receive more of his blessings or see them a "rules" that restrict you. We all have our free agency.

[@geoffreypalmer2661]

restored gospel?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you cant fix what isnt broken

[@fightingfortruth9806]

Yes. There is only one way to Jesus Christ and that is through baptism by one who holds the Priesthood authority. Only the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has that authority. This video is trying to deceive using the same language tricks that Nehor used in the Book of Mormon. Don't fall for it.

[@A_Dventures]

Jesus can’t be found in the church of LDS. That’s what’s truly sad and that’s why I’m glad people are leaving

[@SaxSpy]

"church of lds" isnt a thing.

[@A_Dventures]

@@SaxSpy it’s not the church of Jesus Christ. Mormons believe in more than one God, and therefore cannot be the true church of Jesus Christ.

[@BobEvans-l9x]

@@A_Dventures According to your pastors whom you worship

[@A_Dventures]

@@BobEvans-l9x Where’d that come from? I don’t worship pastors I worship the ONE true God. That’s hilarious though, coming from the church that has a so called “prophet” as their church leader 😂

[@A_Dventures]

@@BobEvans-l9x you don’t refute that you have more than one god. That’s because it’s true. Yet the Bible says in Isaiah 43:10-13 it’s clear that you cannot become a god, there is no other god, and if you believe that there is you are not saved.

[@randymorgan4792]

Everyone should leave this church. Thier Jesus is not the same. Jesus is not the spirit brother of satin. Leave people as fast as you can.

[@latter-daysaintbatman2679]

I will never leave the true church of Christ. You’re also wrong. Our Jesus is the same Jesus. Satan/Lucifer was created by God. That makes him the spirit brother of Jesus.

[@RevansLair]

Restored Gospel 😮.. what in the world is this garbage?

[@geoffreypalmer2661]

its noncense jesus said the gates of hell will not prevail against my church