Can Lapras beat the game FASTER than Ho-oh & Lugia?

Playthrough Rules:
1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle (except held items)
3. No glitches or exploits*
4. No Double-Team TM before level 100*
Other rules:
-- My Pokemon have perfect genetics to ensure fair comparison between species.
-- *Pokeballs & Pokedolls are allowed in battle
-- *The badge-boost glitch is not restricted at all
-- *Skipping the Rocket Hideout & Marowak is allowed
-- I play the game at 4x game speed (238 frames per second)
-- My Pokemon has perfect DVs
-- The bike is allowed
-- Skipping the bike is not allowed
-- Saving between league members is allowed
-- If the solo Pokemon faints and I choose to blackout it counts towards my reset counter
-- I can pause the game & timer to take breaks
-- The footage is sped up / slowed down to match the pace of my narration
*Double-Team:
-- Almost every Pokemon can learn Double-Team through TM
-- The TM can be purchased in Celadon
-- Using it would centralize the meta
-- Every Pokemon would use it to overcome tough battles at lower levels
-- It raises evasion
-- It triggers the badge boost
-- Banning the TM allows Pokemon who learn it through level up to use it
-- I believe evasion is part of Pokemon and shouldn't be banned entirely
-- I don't want the videos to all be double-team spam though, that's not fun or entertaining
Terms:
-- STAB
-- Same-Type-Attack-Bonus - a 1.5x damage multiplier
-- Stat Experience
-- The Gen1&2 equivalent of effort values. You can invest in all stats until they max
out at 65535
-- DVs or Determinate Values
-- The Gen1&2 equivalent of IVs (individual values), these range from 0-15
Resources:
-- Gen 1 Stat Calculator: pycosites.com/pkmn/stat_gen1.php
-- All Trainer Pokemon have IVs (DVs) of 89888 (hp, atk, def, spd, spc)
-- All Trainer Pokemon have EVs of 0
-- Gen 1 Crit Rates: www.smogon.com/rb/articles/cr...
-- Crit rate is determined by dividing base speed by 512
-- High crit rate moves determine their rate by dividing base speed by 64
-- All crits have a 1/256 to fail, even if the rate is 100%
-- Crits don't multiple damage by 2, it's a formula based on level
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[@monikasenpai.]

I remember the official guide for gold and silver went out of it's way to tell you to get and use a lapras, and even told you how to get it (on a friday, in union cave), and I'm so glad it did. It was one of my favourite team members in gen 2 and really carried my team, such an amazing pokemon.

[@laureate90]

Haha, carried your team. On its back?

[@monikasenpai.]

@@laureate90 Completely unintentional but amazing nonetheless :P

[@shanegoes5778]

Bro you unlocked a memory with that Friday thing in union cave. Thank you.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I remember that guide too! Sadly I lent it to a friend and we lost touch. I should find a copy of it on ebay or something.

[@UnknownVir]

​@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Mine got used so much it's all falling apart, I used masking tape trying to fix the binding.

[@denis2381]

Scott

[@chicken_person]

Denis

[@Xhalo1183]

Hi Denis

[@mesplin3]

Denis

[@briancaster2876]

Denis

[@f0rm0r]

Hi Denis!

[@wisconsibility]

in gen 1, I named my first Lapras LL Cool J. I don't know why other than I thought he was coool, and I was 8

[@Carson_Neiss]

Some of my favorite Pokémon designs are the ones based on extinct animals. Lapras as a plesiosaur with a shell is a very neat gen 1 design. Also this Crystal back sprite is really nice.

[@phoenixphire855]

I remember finding that Lapras swimming around in the one cave and couldn’t believe it was just swimming there lol

[@ShinMajin]

Remember when Lapras had teeth?

[@xboxfanatic5622]

@@ShinMajin pepperidge farm remembers

[@natecunningham4861]

I member

[@Drachenherz1901]

Always thought it is a sea turtle lol

[@theSato]

Denis ..Oh no, Denis isn't here yet. Great level to end the first run on as well.

[@21eeveevulpix]

Lapras in older gens is an interesting mon, a little slow to get started but once it gets going, whew, it can steamroll quite quickly, hell it even gets BoltBeam for some incredible coverage.

[@johnapple6646]

Last time I was this early pokemon yellow just released

[@charlessegale6493]

Damn. I remember back when it did just release. Now I feel the grey hairs growing in the back of my neck...

[@johnapple6646]

@@charlessegale6493 I don't have grey hairs because half of my hair is gone lol. We are old

[@devonwissort3649]

Don't remind me lol

[@tsunlastspock2206]

Lapras is one of my Gen 1 favorites, it's got such a great balance of bulk and offense, plus access to the Boltbeam combo can be devestating. I'm not that surprised that Thunderbolt doesn't see play here, though, it's got too many other fantastic moves to use here.

[@desiccant]

Hope to see Blissey's run in Crystal, think it would make a really interesting one.

[@MsM-kh9xg]

Pretty sure it's physically impossible to not love lapras.

[@Laprisu]

Lapras my beloved, excited to see how this run goes

[@ShinMajin]

Big soft friend~

[@americanmann123]

Bro thanks for all the videos this month. They have been a huge highlight during a rough point. You are the man!!!

[@buddyfree1321]

Lapras shows how deadly water and ice is as an offensive type, both cover each other very well. I used this thing in heartgold and my god did it make Lance look like youngster Joey, i was a good 10 levels below him and lapras just one shot his dragonites. Also it has a great shiny.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

This typing is also really great in Gen2! Ice moves are great, boost from pryce, nevermeltice, Clair, and Lance. Plus Will, Koga, and Karen have Flying types.

[@powwowken2760]

It's kind of funny that Tera-types made Scott's Venomoth fanfiction a reality...

[@wiredmind]

Of all the "challengers" you definitely have the best presentation imo, good work :))

[@rogerdelunel9205]

Lapras is one of my favorite Pokémon so seeing this automatically makes my life 10 times better. Thank you for this treat, Scott!

[@d.a.d.-ohgosh]

Frigging love Lapras! Great content as always!

[@h3adstr0ng3995]

I super appreciate the in depth analysis in every video and mathematical approach. Your overlays are so cool :) Thanks for all of the great videos!

[@michealspear3130]

The overlays are indeed some of the cleanest on KZbin

[@williammarek1]

Amazing job as always

[@qweschuning]

11:05 iconic sudowoodo needs art!

[@vreeze33]

Like many others I really like lapras. It took a long time, but eventually I found one in gen 2 as a kid. I didn't use it much in playthroughs since it's so difficult to get, though. I'm looking forward to seeing how this amazing pokemon will do.

[@gothia6515]

I really liked how they implemented Lapras in Gen2. It was something really special and i wish they would ve done that more often.

[@vreeze33]

@@gothia6515 It definitely made it feel more special. Getting the tyrogue from the karate king in Mt. Mortar also felt very special. I personally prefer something more like the tyrogue since that requires overcoming a challenge rather than showing up on the right day.

[@ajs.7363]

Scott's 2nd fight against Bruno I could just hear "Never punished" running through my head. GGs Scott, keep up the great work!

[@ChaosWindScar99]

Ah I love Lapras. Also chef's kiss on the reminder than Venomoth is in fact a fire type for the split second it was seen during the Janine fight.

[@dannyporter4313]

Scott, I just want to say thank you for all the videos you’ve produced. I have been watching your videos for about 2 years now and I’ve watched them all. I love seeing how you’ve developed your overlay throughout the years. I eagerly wait for your videos to come out. Definitely my favorite Pokémon KZbinr. Keep up the great work

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Thanks so much, I'm really enjoying doing a bunch of program updates right now. More cool stuff coming soon!

[@jakebreckenridge4558]

Bro, I fell in love with these sort of videos because of Jrose and you are not far off his Quality. My advise is do these videos the way you love to do them and don't do what people ask you to do. I love your analytics and little stories. Keep being you bro ❤

[@marlysalt]

A reason the damage formula hasn't changed could be to encourage more training organically. If someone is re-challenging a trainer every few levels then the damage seems really noticeable occasionally. Another reason could be that through 'normal play' certain level ups feel really good/reinforce that training really is the answer in a tight spot.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Yeah - it makes the increases more noticeable occasionally. Gives a feeling of accomplishment and power.

[@zerraticz]

Hello Scott and Denis! Yes, I think it has the potential.

[@omenhiikoyashi]

Hi Dennis!!! Great to see you again

[@stephenstone2976]

Lapras has always been a monster. I feel it should have had more love in future generations. Love ya brother

[@tzikguu7045]

This is the first video i watch from your channel. The edits with the basestats etc are visually pleasing and having the power of moves displayed in comparison to basepower makes it much easier to estimate which move is the best option. This is great when watching the video instead of listening to it while doing something else. Also im very impressed that you adjusted the pp of moves after every turn. That must have been a lot of tedious work! You got a subscription from me!

[@Kanbei11]

That's done automatically by his software along with nearly all of the overlay stats. For me, it makes it more impressive that he was able to do that instead of the tedium of manual updates

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

All the updates are done automatically while I play and film! Glad you enjoyed the layout :)

[@String.Epsilon]

Ohhh, you're doing snorlax next? That is my favorite pokemon. And I had a level 100 snorlax on my copy of Pokemon Silver back in the day. The only pokemon I ever leveled to 100 outside of emulators with 3x or 4x speed (or using glitches to make rare candies). Loved that thing as a kid.

[@myth1757]

I'm almost always an hour late lol. But I love your videos!!!!! Thank you for all of them this month

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

You are so welcome!

[@Dankfort]

I love your videos so much

[@lingbloodelf]

my fav pokemon! thanks for the Video.

[@dragonfly4441]

You're actually producing more content than I could watch every day. I don't know what to say to that. It's kind of awesome, but maybe I should save a few for January. Maybe.

[@NativeGolfer10]

Ole Nessy is one of my favorite water types. Great job on the Sing strat Scott. Bold of you to try it. Lol

[@timmyb2507]

Great video buddy!

[@leeboone4440]

Thanx as always for the pokemon fix and hard work. PS GO DENIS

[@michealspear3130]

The overlay is so analytically driven and it provides such a powerful visual just adding that extra depth

[@arcuscotangens]

Love that first edition TCG art work.

[@NeoZanther]

I never knew that the badges actually boosted the type damage of the badge. All these years and I still learn new things about the older games.

[@CMZneu]

Great video! was kinda hoping you would use mist against red's pikachu and snorlax

[@Benjarmon]

Lapras is my favorite Pokémon so this is an exciting video to watch.

[@terras6418]

I like Lapras, definitely in my top 10 Pokemon, kinda mad that it's a water-ice type, it really feels like it should be a dragon-water or dragon-ice type. Oh well, love you, you endangered Dorry looking Pokemon. Lapras has always been a really strong Pokemon, it's performance doesn't surprise me.

[@idiom104]

Nice. Great video Scott, the badges on the stats seem a slight bit too hard too see. Thank you for the video.

[@devinmiracle7680]

Lapras is soooo op. And to think Gen 1 just gives you one. Great video!

[@naraiceylob]

Fair play. Definitely interesting. I felt that you may have spent some time overtraining in the early game (which wasn't rewarded in late game levels) but that may have been needed. I do think from a playthrough perspective its annoying that Lapras was stuck with watergun as the only stab move till surf. Icy wind or Aurora beam or bubblebeam should be in Lapras's moveset somewhere earlier.

[@RyuichiShinomori]

Lapras and Gardevoir really taught me about natures and Base stats. In gen 3 I figured them out when lapras was outpacing the base level mons and I always thought it was just the best ever. Then I Looked it all up.

[@hypertane]

Congrats on almost getting 50k Lapras is my favorite pokemon in gen 2 one I always get in a playthrough

[@dxjxc91]

Gen 2? What was your favorite Pokemon in gen 1 then?

[@anni321]

My patreon pokemon

[@reedjohnson5916]

KZbin didn't notify me of this, but Yes! another video this feels like 12 days of Christmas from Scott

[@hibye-die]

Do you have notifications set to all if it's just customized its likely going to skip a few notifications if you have it set to all then it's just KZbin being KZbin

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I have no idea how the notifications work - it's really frustrating.

[@vava85]

Great video

[@m.s.b.8929]

Scott your videos are great for sleeping. I hope you dont get this wrong, but they are so fun and relaxing i often watch them to help me falling sleeping!

[@pepus777]

I'm sad we didn't see the body slam minimize interaction against koga's muk today. Brilliant video regardless!

[@michaelsong3733]

Best water-type. Fight me.

[@ScottE-2]

Lapras is adorable and I often nickname mine Nessy or something close to it. Easily my favorite water type that you can get on a Friday which is a nice detail since it is one of the few Pokémon that you can re-battle each Friday if you felt like shiny hunting it before the weekend starts proper. Also in both the anime and in the second movie especially, it is just so happy to be playing in the water. I knew it would perform well in gen 2 but man did it make some waves in its second run. I would say if you played the game on regular speed you could probably save some in-game time up to roughly a few minutes with less movement mistakes. Otherwise, the perfect run is somewhere close to a sub 1-24 and that's if there are no resets with ideal situations. Roughly 1 and a half minutes was lost during the second run due to the Sand Attack reset and some poor play during Bruno where you mashed A too quickly.

[@Kyouma.]

"Can Lapras beat the game FASTER than Ho-oh & Lugia?" Perish Song goes brrrrrrrr!

[@milcac3626]

Your runs are the best thank you. I hope my like helps

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Thanks! Glad you enjoy them

[@JoyBoyCoy]

Lapras was and always will be my favorite Pokémon. When I was little I had my dad buy me every rare Lapras card and action figures. Every game you could catch/use I used it and spammed it. Like you said the moves it learns are incredible! My fav!!!❤

[@TheMoogleKing93]

You get points for using Lapras but you lose them again for spelling Loch with a l K for the name!

[@EsmeMarion]

Lapras is one of my favorite Pokemon to use whenever I play through the games. Ice Beam is always a good move to give your water type, so the STAB is nice, and Thunderbolt on it is great too!

[@tonpalacios2964]

I remember randomly finding it on a Friday in union cave. Great member on my team

[@Yourauntstrailer]

Thank you Denis

[@LTDextel]

La-pra! So excited

[@Charsept]

Lapras has such a good design. I really think it's stood the test of time.

[@alexanderlong.7234]

As soon as I saw the moves "ice beam, body slam, hidden power ground, and surf" I thought "is Lapras unstoppable now?"

[@Bl3Moze]

You could say that Lapras gave the competition “Lapras-y” cause they were left in pieces.

[@AoRyuha1]

Curse might indeed be the best option for the Red fight, I'd believe it. But Lapras has good special attack and the Surf/Thunder/Rain Dance combination, which I can't help but feel might have been even better. Or as an even more wild idea, when you stop in Violet to get the loot and escape ropes, move the mail from Kenya to the teleport Abra (which you shouldn't need as much now that you've got fly) and get the Nightmare TM for when Snorlax rests. It probably wouldn't work, but damn it would make my day to see you try it.

[@stellarsub-orbital9922]

The Lapras from Silph Co. was always on my Kanto teams in Red, Yellow, and Fire Red. One of my absolute favorite PokeMon of all time.

[@altheapolyam]

Scott: the strategy behind learning headbutt is... We: TO NOT USE SING XD

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Hehehe

[@Evan_Floyd]

Finding a nugget in a cow field was really funny to me.

[@shimauta1941]

Four for spoiling us with daily content.

[@qweschuning]

Man your editor is doing the damn thing!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

He's great!

[@bobdylan7299]

Yayy my Favorite pokemon of all time!!

[@stellarsub-orbital9922]

I've been watching your videos for some time now. You remind me of MDB and Mandj, but with a much less annoying voice. For that reason, I decided to become a member. As always, keep up the great work! I'm rooting for you! (Talk to your mom in Pallet Town haha)

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Thanks so much for the support!

[@34autobot]

Porygon is my favorite pokemon, and I loved your porygon gen 1 run. Would you do another in Gen 2, or Porygon 2 in gen 2??

[@ninolifegawd4826]

I was over here scrambling my brain like damn all the dark types are trash! But then I remembered… Tyranitar DOES exist! Looking forward to it !

[@charlessegale6493]

Scott: * beats the first run at level 69 * Me: *NICE!*

[@Roy_Stevens]

Love your vids! Locky’s nickname should have been spelled Lochy. Loch Ness monster lol the cryptozoology community refers to it as Nessy so props for not going for that

[@Chefvonbreezy]

So I’m playing soulsilver and I started it intentionally on a Friday to get my lapras. I soft reset until I got one with 20+ in def, both spec stats and hp. It’s literally the most useful mon on my team. Split defenses evs and max special attack evs. Thunderbolt, icebeam, surf, psychic. An absolute unit

[@Anditeshordo]

Would love to see Tyranitar and Dragonite run through here. I'm sure they would do really well. They have great move pools. Also could see this as a vs series.

[@tillyvanilly7015]

Good news. It’s coming soon.

[@Anditeshordo]

@tillyvanilly7015 how do you know. There a poll somewhere or schedule?

[@tillyvanilly7015]

@@Anditeshordo Jupp, Community poll right now and he said it in one of the livestreams, recently. (Although I can’t recall, if he said early 2023 or just sometime in 2023. But then again community poll.)

[@Anditeshordo]

@tillyvanilly7015 ask ok thanks. I miss his live streams at time cause of work. Or I would have known. Can't wait to see it.

[@davidkelling159]

Lapras got a dump truck

[@vreeze33]

For the whitney rematch it sounds like it would be more optimal to use confuse ray first and then start using sing. If you’re only going to use one then confuse ray still sounds better to me since you only need to use it once and body slam can still paralyze while it is confused and you'll need to deal damage eventually anyways.

[@jaeyoungkim6783]

That headbutt attempt into a faster Miltank was hard to stand through

[@Jonatron101]

I was playing Crystal during lockdown and I was having a horrible time until I got lapras then I just swept the game with it. Best girl!

[@manuelcheeser8935]

Go Scott!

[@MazterP28]

My 2nd favorite ice type. I love ice type Pokémon

[@ShinMajin]

Woo! Cheers to my big blue boi!

[@leviathan5530]

Lapras vs Poliwrath was so nail biting

[@Spiran_SphereHunter]

Lapras is up there with Scizor as my favorite pokemon, Sadly just like Scizor I rarely ever get to catch it, I wish there was a game where it was an early route possibility

[@hloupaopica]

Hi Scott, have you ever thought about using egg moves in gen 2 and 3? You already modify your hidden power so I don't think it would be that weird to use egg moves. Although this would help certain pokemon more than some other which would maybe be unfair.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I'll do special videos with Pokemon where Egg moves make a big difference, then we can compare the results.

[@emilydonegan3208]

Gosh, I love Lapras. So cute! And plesiosaurs are great! Love them! I wish I could swim like a Lapras… or at all. Swimming is great exercise, and is so fun, but I can’t do it!

[@milkdud8993]

Infomercial o’ clock is between 2am-5am for me because that’s when I’d wake up to turn them off for the night.

[@marklisowski6549]

After watching Squidgy’s videos, the last comment that the haircut brother makes will indicate whether you can get the TM for Return earlier. If the brother mentions your Pokémon looks delighted, then you can get the TM right as you first reach Goldenrod City

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Neat! That’s good to know.

[@Nik-ei9st]

The first Lapras I caught in gen 2 was a shiny. Didn’t realize how rare that was until later (because of the red gyarados). Course that doesn’t mean I was lucky in shinys! Gen 2 was the game I played the most but I never knew the odd egg had a high chance of being shiny, I sure never found one

[@nategraham6946]

Mist can be helpful. I played with just Togetic once. I got a lucky Mist with Metronome against Jasmine, so her Steelix's Screech did nothing, so I locked it into Screech with Encore, so her Steelix was stuck.

[@PrincessGoth574]

Im looking forward to the snorlax run! Fun fact, snorlax is the best pokemon in gen 2 competetive, even in ubers.

[@darkitachi6577]

thats so cool 😍😍😍

[@TheSuperGiantSquid]

Gen 2 has my favorite ice beam animation

[@PhilippeLemaire]

Nice runs. That leaderboard on a blurry background though in the end, the red text is impossible to read for me on mobile, even in fullscreen.