Which game can Kangaskhan beat faster, Red or Yellow?

Rules:
1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle, except held items
3. No glitches, exploits, save states, or RNG manipulation
4. No evasion moves before level 100*
Rule details:
-- *In gen1, evasion boosting is allowed if the Pokemon does it through means other than learning the move by level up or TM. For example, using Mimic or Mirror Move to boost evasion is allowed. (This exception is to keep ranking consistent with my legacy videos.)
-- I am allowed to manipulate my starter
-- I play the game at 4x game speed
-- For fair comparisons all my Pokemon have perfect (or near perfect) DVs / IVs
-- I am allowed to catch HM users - I can use all field moves
-- All in-battle glitches are allowed in generation 1
-- In generation 1, I'm allowed to skip Marowak with the Poke Doll
-- Surge's trash-can-puzzle is automatically solved
-- The bike is allowed in gen1, banned in gen2, and allowed for bypassing terrain in gen3
-- Saving between league members is allowed
-- If the solo Pokemon faints and I choose to blackout it counts towards my reset counter
-- I can pause the game and timer to take breaks
-- The footage is sped up / slowed down to match the pace of my narration
-- The ability Pickup can only be used if the starter has it
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[@DrunkenGrognard]

Bruno stepping up to show you the super-flukey way he became an Elite Four member in the first place was hilarious.

[@iantaakalla8180]

Well, Bruno is basically a Normal/Electric filter in that if you have only those moves or are a bad Pokémon of those types, you’re screwed. As Kangaskhan is a normal type, of course Bruno would claim victory against it.

[@skeetermania3202]

For once, he actually seemed to not want to be demoted to Hiker status.

[@StatsNeard]

​@@iantaakalla8180 counter point likitouge clefable Taros wigglituff and porgon low diff Bruno a LITTLE to easily 😂

[@legendarystormmartialartsg3573]

Bruno had enough of Scott's Thoughts' shit. 😂😂😂

[@kevinsips3658]

Oh man I don't think I was fully prepared for a Scott's Thoughts triple feature for this weekend. Thanks, man!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

You're welcome!

[@jacobliston7339]

After a two-year battle with ovarian cancer, my mother passed away in her sleep at the hospital Saturday morning. Scott, your videos and unbridled enthusiasm for Pokémon playthroughs have helped make this difficult time a bit easier to bare. Thank you

[@jamestaquino7726]

I’m sorry to hear that Jacob. At least she’s not in pain any more. Again, my condolences.

[@datoneoreo4149]

My words cannot take the pain away, I’m sorry for your loss. I know you lost a piece of you with her, but as long as you continue to live; so will she! Take the time you need to grieve, don’t rush the process. Remember the great times and celebrate the live she lived; like the fellow before me also said she is no longer in pain. Keep your head as high as you can, and if you need to lay it; make sure it’s on a good, supportive shoulder. You’ve got this! 💙

[@jacobliston7339]

@@datoneoreo4149 Thank you for the kind words.

[@jacobliston7339]

@@jamestaquino7726 Thank you for the kind words

[@treyparkerofficial]

I was hoping for marowak but this is just as good! 3 days in a row from Scott? Absolutely amazing!!!

[@Burningtreeblood]

Moma 💕 my favorite Pokémon! “Here hold my baby, I gotta rock this b****”

[@Jakar_Umbra]

If I recall, the teams for trainers in Red and Blue specifically have the moves they would have learned by that level. In Rhydon's case those are the moves it would learn in its level up set by that level and they just happen to be a particularly terrible combination. Obviously, they manually updated some movesets for Yellow version, hence the better teams, along with the other moveset changes to account for the Pikachu start.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Yeah, all movesets are assigned based on the moves that Pokemon would have learned at that level.

[@tsawy6]

of course the question just follows: why does rhyhorn learn two defence lowering moves?

[@Jakar_Umbra]

@@tsawy6 Because Gen 1 was made of dreams and wishes and held together simply by the mere concept of "this needs to exist."

[@rjante2236]

​@@tsawy6 The same reason Moltres learns LEER at Level 51: Because reasons.

[@tsawy6]

@@rjante2236 Moltres: famed physical attacker!

[@ChrisZi.]

Wow. 342 Patreons. I startet when there were only 20. What a accomplishment in one short year! Thats just a proof how good your stuff is. Because Mahdrybread & Jrose11 didnt do so much stuff lately, I would proudly say: You my friend are now the best Poketuber around. Good Job Scott.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Thanks so much!

[@EmeralBookwise]

I rather doubt Screech was ever meant to be a triple debuf. Most likely Tail Whip and Leer were always two versions of the same move and it's just an esoteric quirk that Pokémon like Rhyhorn learn both. If they were ever different, however, I would imagine Leer might have been a single stage debuf for the special stat. It makes sense insofar as we have Growl for lowering attack, Tailwhip for lowering defense, Stringshot for lowering speed, but no equivalent move for special. Shame too, as a special lowering move might have helped mitigate Psychic-types from being quite so overpowered.

[@HighPriestFuneral]

Now that I think on it, it makes little sense that Leer decreases defense. It feels like its supposed to unnerve the opponent, which would be a mental matter, not a physical one. (But heaven forbid, Special is touched in Generation 1!)

[@EmeralBookwise]

@@HighPriestFuneral: Even in subsequent generations, moves with a guaranteed drop to either of the special stats often have much more limited availability than their physical counterparts.

[@zenitfan4life]

Interesting observation

[@dictatordauntlessLP]

NPCs can only have 1 Pokémon with special moves in RBY. Otherwise they always default to last 4 moves learned at their level

[@HighPriestFuneral]

@@dictatordauntlessLP Oh? But wasn't Lance's team of Dragonair using different movesets from one another?

[@apache3133]

Scott uploading like his love ones are kidnapped and the only ransom they accept is Pokémon Speedruns

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

This got a chuckle out of me. Well done. Thanks for putting a smile on my face!

[@EmeraldForester777]

wholesome scott moment

[@Limnomys]

I loved the comparisons between versions! I totally support if you want to do more videos like this. Since I've only played the first 3 generations it ressonates much better with me. Even a "Red x FireRed" comparison would be nice. Loved the video and the idea!

[@fabizabo]

Three videos on three consecutive days? Am I back in Dezember 22? This is good stuff 🥳

[@DrivenArc]

"So I did another playthrough..." Damn it, Scott, it's almost sounding like an addiction.

[@EmeralBookwise]

More like an obsession, but yes. Although this is also literally his job.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Definitely an obsession. I want to present thorough results too.

[@Aaron.Seabolt]

This was an awesome video and learning about your new schedule I’m very excited for!

[@shrinkwrapz8576]

Waiting for Golduck run, I'm sure it'll probably do well in rankings, no one's done one yet, and I'm eager to see how it stacks up being my favorite from way back when red/blue came out.

[@TechHunterOfficial]

I wasn't prepared for 3 videos on one weekend! But I'm so here for it!

[@MitchellKeymon-mu7gf]

Thank you Scott for producing all of this wonderful content!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

You’re welcome!

[@norskmatty]

Love the videos Scott. I always like seeing you finish as quick as possible but I have to admit, I find myself rooting for poor Bruno and so I kind of enjoyed his short time in the sun, haha

[@MadameTeqi]

What a sweet intro, oh my gosh, it put a warm fuzzy in my heart! I'm barely 3 minutes in but its going to be a good episode, I can tell

[@postapocalypticnewsradio]

Thank you! Thank you for talking about the geodude sprite. It's so bad in red and blue, and when I was a kid, my siblings didn't care.

[@mattulibarri6181]

Wow I wasn't expecting that! I really love the yellow playthroughs because of your videos and I thought they were more of a challenge but now I don't know what to think haha. Red/blue felt boring but now I might get back into them! Thanks Scott ❤

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Yeah, I wasn’t expecting this either. I think for most Pokémon yellow will be harder. Perhaps with the exception of Pokémon that only have normal moves for brock.

[@red-eyessolares1817]

It’s cool to see these Yellow vs Red and Blue comparison videos! I can’t wait to see more of them!

[@DadstarsGG]

Scott yours video gives me so much joy. Thank you

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

That makes me really happy! Thanks for leaving this comment.

[@DubJosh]

Keep up the great videos man!

[@justsomejojo]

This is a fun idea! :D I typically just phone my mum, but this is so much better. My mum also is a great listener to my obsession. She even remembers some pokemon - specifically Gengar because one of her patients and me own the same plush. My memory of Gen1 Rage is very similar to yours, except I had used it on my Charmeleon. Not being able to save at the drop of a hat while in battle was a great frustration to my father especially, who felt the game was gaining control over me, which, with the way Rage worked back then, wasn't entirely inaccurate - something he didn't need to know, but is very funny to think about nowadays. Mechanically, I actually love the idea of Rage. They later re-did the concept with moves like Rollout and Fury Cutter, but Rage is the only one of these that has perfect accuracy and still lets you choose to forfeit your rage counter, making it the best version of the "use continuously to power up" in these games. When they later made Echoed Voice, I was pretty happy, altough sadly I rarely get to use it.

[@888Grim]

Excellent video as always, three days in a row =D

[@adamlink3113]

I know speed is of the essence, but I would have loved to see you Safari Ball that Kangaskhan and catch it. I burned so many hours in multiple editions catching Kangaskhan, Chansey, Tauros, Pinsir and Scyther. Great video Scott, top notch as always!

[@UnknownVir]

7:57 Four critical hits in a row! That's less than a .1% chance! (1 in 1066)

[@mickgorro]

Scott: RAGE is not all FRUSTRATION. Me: No, it's also anger. Also, that's two different moves :).

[@Hex17alv]

Your edits and layout look professional and have smooth esthetics, i love your videis and scripts/analysis

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Thanks! Glad you’re enjoying!

[@rdpnd5384]

Love you and your videos thanks for being you big guy ❤

[@oEllery]

Kangaskhan? Nice! I've actually never used it before so I have no idea if it's any good... It will be interesting to see.

[@shimauta1941]

Seriously good performance from Kangaskhan in both games. Some surprising obstacles though. Great video man. PS: Please re-rank Tangela.

[@zacht8050]

Always makes my day better when Scott uploads, may the best mom win!

[@b-rad1170]

So.. The hiker called in the real Bruno 😂

[@williambaker5730]

Love the old school vids Scott!

[@devinbuettgenbach2941]

Love that wholesome start. A good mom is so hard to find

[@phealtalk]

The geodude Red/Blue sprite is actually really funny. The noodle arm is pretty bad, but the "forehead" I've always thought of as hair with frosted tips just like a "dude" of the 90s

[@shimauta1941]

One hitting Sandy's Pidgeys with Mega Punch sounds like it would be such a brutal time for those poor birds. Hopefully she has revives and super potions.

[@lyonnaismatt]

I love how misplaying against the Venomoth is still a Scott's Thoughts trademark. After Rock Slide gets Venomoth to low health, Body Slam for sure would pick up the kill 255/256 of the time. You didn't need to go for the risk of Rock Slide twice. Again, AMAZING CONTENT and I absolutely LOVE watching this. Thanks for making all our lives better and happier.

[@-Shinoray-]

Damn Scott, you're releasing videos at a light speed pace... I'm happy to see every video and binging your channel up and down lately, while doing my own monotype nuzlocke runs in alpha sapphire. But man please take care of yourself and don't overwork yourself please.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Going on a week vacation real soon ;)

[@youtubeneedstochange4414]

Light speed isn't time! It measures distance! Sorry, I just had to quote my favorite NPC...

[@thaliest8631]

I always thought that Geodude in red had a great haircut. Happy belated mothers day for Scott's mom!

[@TJF588]

That clutch triple-critical Rage during Bide! (And the hilarity of excitement over critical hits in Gen1~)

[@cduke_Net_Architect]

Amazing results. I have mentioned this before, but it just shows how important the Pokemon's level-up group is. I realize this was a Kangaskan vs Kangaskan video, but I mean when compared to a Pokemon like Tauros. Tauros should crush Kangaskan, but it just does not happen that way. I saw a similar thing on Gym Leader Matt's recent Golem video. It kicked Rhydon to the curb, where if you just look at their base stats, Rhydon should roll. Anyway, I really liked this comparison. I was hppy to see Yellow do so well. I also wanted to say thank you for your decision to provide more options with your content. I believe the stream highlights are going to be a huge addition for you, and even though I try to catch your livestream runs too, this is in a format that I can easily consume while I am multitasking.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Yeah, Golem is way better than Rhydon in this format exclusively because of its growth-rate. I never knew that it would matter as much as it does. Now it’s the first thing I check when planning a new run. It helps me set my expectations appropriately.

[@cduke_Net_Architect]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Exactly - it is really something man. Honestly, I have only recently learned how important it is - by watching so many of you and several others who do solo runs. The thing about Golem versus Rhydon is that there is even more to it than just the level-up group. Golem has access to a Badge Boosting move, whereas Rhydon does not. I am not sure which of those two is actually more important. I am curious and would love your thoughts on that subject. Basically, between a Pokemon having a "good" or a "bad" level-up group and whether or not they natively have a Badge Boosting move - which do you think is more important, which can take a Pokemon further, how much better is having both versus only having one or the other, versus having neither, etc? Thank you for taking the time to "talk shop" with me - I really appreciate it.

[@blakeschwab7518]

khangskan is good if you ignore it having lower special than Rhydon. fun video man :)

[@kingfantasma2818]

Love your videos bro brings back a lot of memories I would love to see you do a solo with muk I always wanted one on my team back in the day but never got one

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Muk later this year!

[@evanmckeel5495]

This is a cool series!

[@Atavistic07]

When you eventually get to doing runs in those games, I'd be interested to see you do run like this comparing between Diamond/Pearl and Platinum. I've done runs in both and there's plenty of interesting and subtle differences in things like level curve, gym order etc. that would make for some very intriguing comparisons in this format.

[@shimauta1941]

Four for the great video to enjoy while having my brunch.

[@Gungho73]

Khangaskhan back sprite is honestly one of the better in gen 1. Back sprites could receive its own entire video per generation. Plus yellow vs Red/Green. The evolution of them. How the pixels were best utilized. Color pallete, etc. consistency within the core design.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I should do a backsprite review video.

[@Gungho73]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Yes! Right after the Psyduck vs Stadium Psyduck run :3

[@RenaissanceManchild856]

Great video! Found it a little hard to tell on the go between versions this time - is it possible for the overlay to reflect that in the future or to use the nicknames to differentiate? Loved seeing Kangaskhan get some love!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

The overlays are coloured differently and use different Kangaskhan art. We also used more dramatic transitions to cut between the Yellow and Red footage.

[@DarkMagicianGirl0]

Trading with yourself... sounds about right... While I was fine with doing it mostly I do wonder if I explained to my friends what I was doing how they would respond. 😅 It isn't that they didn't want to trade it was more that they all played Mario and GBA Mortal Komatsu. At least that is what they told me lol 😂 I think you told us your Onix story before but I loved it both times. I was exactly the same way in being a mega Pokémon fan and being unaware how unreasonably patient with things I enjoy.👍

[@DigiRangerScott]

Great job today Scott. Happy Mother’s Day!

[@DJ-se5pl]

i love the tier list like this where it actually shows the pokemon, I would love this for emerald/crystal(i think you already do that for crystal) but im sitting there squinting my eyes to read the list in emerald

[@michaelklos8089]

The Emerald list I don't think is a tier list at the moment, it's just a record of results because he's still getting used to mapping out the runs. I've he feels he's doing the pokemon justice I think he's going to do the visual tier list as he's doing in the other versions. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I will convert the Emerald data into a tierlist soon. It will be a “first attempt” tierlist.

[@nickswargaminghistory4637]

One of my favourites is Beedrill. Are there any plans to do Beedrill again? I know ypuve done a few in your early days? Excellent video. Keep up the amazing work.

[@calcal101]

Bruno getting more in-depth analysis with some rare interactions on display while Agatha provides free rides - a fun change of pace from the usual. Really I'm here for the continued roasting of R/B sprites and R/B AI jank. 😶‍🌫👍

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

In every video I have to call out at least one sprite.

[@corberus3119]

the only bad thing is the mispronunciation (its pik-as-pry not pika spray) otherwise another amazing video, can't wait for so see what you do next

[@shimauta1941]

39:45 - Nice! Somebody give Bruno a deluxe boxed lunch for that one.

[@wailcastenburger4914]

Addicted to the damage rounding thresholds. Get this man into rehab.

[@PeTeThEgOtH]

Happy mothers day to your mom scott she is a excellent woman to have spawned you sir. And to all the amazing mothers out there happy mothers day!

[@windhelmguard5295]

one thing a lot of players underestimate is the impact of an early game grind. grinding early game gives a lot of stat experience, which has a massive impact when you reach the late game,

[@davidestabrooks211]

Get ‘‘em Kangaskahn. Always loved the idea of this weird super beefy kangaroo

[@Alucard120392]

hey Scott. loved these videos over the weekend. quick question what happened to your second stream of corsola after the computer curse???

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Haven’t done it yet. Needed to keep my voice for produced content. Likely going to do it Monday or Wednesday this week.

[@Alucard120392]

@ScottsThoughtsPokemon no worries looking forward to it as always 😁

[@BloodfelX]

I have a different theory on Tail Whip and Leer. I think Tail Whip (Tail Wag in its original Japanese name) lowers defence as the user is acting playfully and cutely wagging its tail to lower the opponent's guard. Leer however stares down the opponent making them more self-conscious, and being relaxed with moves like Amnesia and Calm Mind tends to be the basis of Special raising moves - so I think Leer was supposed to lower Special until it was found lowering Special was too powerful on a 100% accurate status move; so they probably changed it to lowering defence.

[@khaotix64]

Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers that helped us become the Pokémon fans we are today including the ones who are no longer with us ❤ My mother passed away 8 years ago and always think about how she encouraged my love for this series as a kid and going into my adulthood. I love you mom thank you ❤❤❤

[@JustSpag]

part of me kind of wants to see a discord server made to collect all the pokemon challenge run youtubers in one place so we viewers can discover more of them easily.

[@testarosa1571]

I really love Kangaskhans back sprite, its surprisingly cute

[@lucasyoungers]

Oh my god the Leer theory makes so much sense. That would explain why so many Pokémon learn it so late!

[@julianfernandez314]

Babe wake up Scott posted a new video :)

[@mmburp]

Hey Scott :) Enjoyed this one! Do you have data on how many crits were scored during the playthroughs, since yellow seemed to be way more lucky xD

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

No. Without watching all the footage and making a manual tally I do not know this. We are working on an implementation that will track this in real time and report it to my autosplitter. It is more complicated to implement in Yellow than it is in Crystal (it’s already working there.)

[@mmburp]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Oh wow, didn't expect that xD was more of a joke algorythm question ;)

[@thomasbailey226]

Since you already did the three starter comparisons, Charizard, Venusaur Blastoise are here ago I think Scott, do a surfing ratio, and see how that starter sacks up to everything else and Pokémon yellow! I mean you did do the Pikachu run along with all the other baby starters, and it would be awesome to see how a Raichu with surf and a Raichu without serve, compare, and stack up

[@rowclaw2734]

Awesome ifea

[@thomasbailey226]

I apologize for the bad typos, I usually watch your videos when I’m making my weekend trips so my daughter can see her grandparents (4 hours one way). Also, thank you for the continuous awesome content! It’s really evolved since I first started following you from your initial video! It’s def the best poke content around for this format!

[@ShiningJudgment666]

Surf on Pikachu/Raichu trivializes any Rock/Ground type match-ups and it would make Blaine less troublesome. Also depends how soon you'd permit it as I'm pretty sure you only need Pikachu as part of your team and the transfer pak so theoretically you could get it at the start but it wouldn't be realistic to fulfill the conditions to allow it to learn Surf in Stadium as you need to clear Round 2 of Master Ball level Prime Cup.

[@Bj5m17h]

I turned 40 recently. Told people I'd just crossed a damage rounding threshold. Nothing but blank stares... Because I had used hypnosis the previous turn.

[@Smileyrat]

Surprising resutlts. Do you think they might change after practicing a lot with red version? I recall you chalnging a red version poketuber and it made red seem much easier.

[@emilydonegan3208]

Kangaskskhan is so good; Love it! Not quite as much as Tauros, but I still love it! Such a classic design! Have you seen the backsprite for the supposed Marowak evolution?

[@arcuscotangens]

I love early Pokemon artwork. That watercolour style is just so wholesome. Not to mock Sugimori, but it has a sort of derpy charm and doesn't look super polished.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I love the water colour art too. There is something so beautiful with art that looks like it was draw, rather than the more modern stuff that looks like it was made in illustrator and then polished to make it look like it was drawn.

[@dragonknight1560]

I find it funny that Red tries to do better and better but Yellow is like "Hold my drink" and one up's it. That's what I enjoy about Scott's versus videos; one mon will always one-up the other. It's great! Great video!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I was expecting that evetually Yellow would fold, but it just kept putting out amazing results.

[@dragonknight1560]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Yep! Yellow wants to prove it's the best Gen 1 game. Can't blame it.

[@escapecamperhire4929]

you know what Scott. I am incredible

[@adrov849]

Can you do Muk? I’d love to see how quickly it could get through the game

[@gabr.7878]

Always love a good pokemon challenge, and a reminder that mother's day is this Sunday and not next Sunday lol

[@bluethemew9273]

Fun fact I learned recently, the bike actually lowers encounter rates, I always thought it upped it but it doesn’t

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Source?

[@ktvx.94]

I think you had really good luck against the final gym leaders in Yellow's first playthrough which was then offset with really bad luck against Bruno.

[@ChrisZi.]

Good Job Scott

[@marcosnavarro880]

Definitely expected Marowak for Mother's Day as it's the most prominent Mother/child storyline in Pokemon, but I'm happy with a Kangaskhan play through too :D

[@santacruzclubdefutbol4655]

Hey Scott! I really love your videos. How can I get the membership to your channel?

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

There is a “join” button under all my videos!

[@frankieinjapan]

I always used to hunt this guy in the safari zone, but I don't recall ever actually catching it 🤣

[@TenDoughASMR]

My friend used to carry a Kangaskhan Pokémon card around with him. Periodically he would pull it out and say “Kangaskhan’s got my back”

[@courtneys.7113]

every time you say “so i did another play through” i cheer

[@elliot0E]

Baby is in bed, wife is asleep next to me on the couch. Time for some Scott's Thoughts to unwind! Thanks for the triple feature this weekend. Happy mothers day to your mom (and to the cat mom in your life).

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

That sounds like a wonderful way to unwind. Happy to provide the triple feature!

[@MrVelyx]

"the Sun is a deadly Lazer" -The History of Everything, i guess...

[@hitmanx200]

Kangaskhans back sprite looks like someone ate a lot of peanuts without chewing and… uhhh yeahh

[@legendarystormmartialartsg3573]

Clearly Bruno had enough of your shit. 😂 He's like "I don't want to be a Hiker anymore!"

[@ZerglingOne1]

It's a good thing you didn't go for rage against the light years jr. trainer because if rage misses, it can never hit again and it's an instant reset. I'm not that far into the video yet, but I had to comment on that. Rage is such a buggy move in gen 1. If you could choose to use it as an attacking move that can raise your attack stat, it would be pretty great actually. But locking you in forever is just awful, even if it gives the move an insanely huge PP.

[@BrownTheBear]

Scott!! I just found another poketuber called Eggsceptional and he sounds just like you! Would be hilarious for you to make a video with him. (Plus he’s super small with 35 subs and it’s criminal how good his vids are)

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

So funny. He reached out to me today on Discord so we’re chatting. It was the first I saw his videos, and yes, they are very good!

[@BrownTheBear]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon I just eeked like a schoolgi.. boy

[@iss2075]

You seem to be an expert on these games, so I'm surprised you haven't realised that EVERY Pokemon in Red/Blue just has their level-up moves (the same as wild Pokemon). That's why Rhydon has Tail Whip and Leer. That's why Lance's 2 Dragonair are identical. That's why loads of Pokemon have Roar and Whirlwind, that's why Exeggutor only has 3 moves. And so on. The only exceptions to this are the ace of each Gym Leader who have the gym leader's TM moves, the ace of each Elite 4 member (Lapras is Blizzard I think, Machamp is Fissure, Gengar is Toxic, Dragonite is Barrier), the champion's Pidgeot (Sky Attack) and the champion's starter (Blastoise is Blizzard, Venusaur is Mega Drain, I can't remember Charizard's, I thin it's Fire Blast?). These moves are always in the 3rd slot in their moveset. It's odd that Pidgeot is the only Pokemon in the game to have a special move that isn't the trainer's ace, but from the game's code it looks to me like they were originally going to give a special move to all 6 of the Champion's Pokemon but changed their mind. One of the biggest upgrades in Pokemon Yellow was custom movesets for every Pokemon, even some regular trainer Pokemon have custom movesets.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I have realized this. I’ve spoken about it in the past before. It is still strange that a mon learns two moves by level up that have the same effect. (Rhydon)

[@EmeralBookwise]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon: The level up sets in Generation 1 are just notoriously bad and poorly planned out. Having both Tailwhip and Leer could maybe be useful, as there was no move re-learner back then. It could have also been useful for random AI making it more likely to drop the player's defense...that is if it weren't for the only damaging move Rhydon knows while having both Tailwhip and Leer was Fury Attack. Then again, learning a move as bad as Fury at level 40, when it already has the vastly superior horn attack and stomp, is just another example of how poorly planned level sets could be.

[@yamiryushi]

That fricking "TOASTY!" moment with Blaine made me ugly laugh!

[@shimauta1941]

40:02 - It happened again! Forget the deluxe boxed lunch, get Bruno a weekend stay at a five star hotel with all their amenities and perks free of charge.

[@inazuma-fulgur]

Alright I don't have as much time to comment as I'd like and I'm already trying to catch up Spoilers ahead everyone So first not a spoiler, but I find it funny that you mention that pikasprey video since he made one mistake in it (that I'm aware of). Rage does not need to miss 20 consecutive times, even tho rage doesn't use pp anymore it can still gen 1 miss. So you "only" have to grind for 20 of those, which is probably still far worse than just making a new file and grinding back that ape. Now I only wanna talk a little bit about the e4 since for the first two fights I had some trouble understanding your movesets choices, especially looking forward, and honestly thought they were just bad. Third run was clean ofc and there is so much variance more than 1 way will lead to a good result. And obv I can't theorycraft a perfect run in my head. I haven't even used a calc, just pondered with all the damage ranges given by you. All in all I think rock slide is completely unviable for anything past Lorelei but even there it probably is. And blizzard is not worth using for the champ in any scenario. My strat would've been something like: Lorelei - eq bodyslam tbolt mimic/bubble beam Bruno + Agatha - eq bodyslam tbolt ice beam/bubble beam Lance - eq body slam tbolt ibeam/blizzard Champion - eq body slam tbolt blizzard/rest My reasoning isn't very deep I must say, the only reason to keep rockslide past lorelei is agathas golbat which I think isn't worth playing around, and you even have tbolt if it somehow is stronger than bodyslam, which still is a ridiculously good stab move coming of solid attack. Eq is mandatory for agatha but you still want special damage for Brunos Onixes, you just can't take that many hits. And not having body slam is a death sentence since your special is good enough to exploit low spdef on neutral hits. Lance I believe is too trivial to discuss, and probably the best place to use rock slide since Ice moves really aren't the game changer you'd want with Dragonite still being a two hit. (I beam always hitting makes it better than slide imo but what gives, I don't know the important body slam ranges. But generally I think it is not advisable to aim for lots of super effective coverage when you're tight on move slots. Maximizing neutral coverage is better. You're a normal type anyways. I feel like you really overvalued rock slide, generally the tendency to overvalue super effective coverage hasn't completely lost you it seems to me, even tho you now don't get fooled and look for base power of moves more) Eq is pretty great against the champions mag and flareon (so smth both gens right?) Body slam meets damage range for like zam, rest is nice utility and tbolt for gyara in yellow and blastoise is red. (Not gyara, cloystwr my bad) Last topic is that I said ice coverage is really bad for this e4 run, body slam effectively replaces it. You mentioned that it gives you a decent roll to kill on eggy. So that means it's a guaranteed two hit on pidgeot and I don't think a ten percent freeze is valuable against the bird if there's a ten percent miss. On top of needing to hit four when body slam will be at most five turns even if the roll doesn't get hit against eggy. Ice beam is too weak, sad. That's what having bad special does to a fucker mother. Not sure rest has much value in either fight, but neither has blizzard and at least it can be used somewhere. (Not against the turtle tho, hydro strong) Edit: so blizzard or beam would be good for rhydon but I think that mon is bad and you just use eq three times or we. Not worth wasting one whole moveslot for one kill. (Otherwise the fight is so safe that rest is never a necessary option. In that case maybe using blizzard against eggy if the first body slam was weak and the roll is unlikely to get a two hit then yeah using ice moves somewhere else might be fine) No genius commentary today soz, I'd love to have written this comment while watching. Maybe on a rewatch

[@JimB.Walken]

Karengaskhan racing to see who can talk to the manager (Blue) fastest.

[@postapocalypticnewsradio]

You told us the rage story before. I think it was the dunsparce video. (Not a complaint, it's a good story.)

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I think I also told it in my old Onix video

[@postapocalypticnewsradio]

​@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon nice! It's a good one. Worth telling.

[@SinnerChrono]

My thoughts on red tier list is wait till 15. Thats 1/10th or 10 and 1/15th of all results. That gives a solid data spread for a starting point to see some of each tier rating

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Good idea.

[@brandonlangley1009]

Have you thought about doing pokemon races between games with different regions? You should play Ruby/Sapphire and Firered/Leafgreen at the same time with the same pokemon and see which region (Hoenn or Kanto) the pokemon would become Champion first in.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Yes I have. The issue here is that different games have a much different pace. For instance, just look at speedrun records for the first 5 gens. You’ll see how each one takes very different amounts of time.