Can Lossless Scaling save your Potato PC? Part 2

[@Sakthi692]

The fact that i have to use lossless scaling on a 2060 super is a really good example of how recent game devs are the laziest people to ever exist

[@MyEarsHurts]

2060? Might as well use an GTX 1080

[@gamecat2013]

Have to use it on an rx 480

[@julianmendez4691]

Its a 2060 bruhh better turn on graphics down a notch 😅

[@x0vg5hs1]

Bro I have 34 tflops Radeon 6800xt that runs everything maxed out. Even the unreal engine retardations with nanite lods and Lumen global ilumination+virtual shadowmaps. Just get good PC. RTX 4060 ti is now 500 USD while it was 230 USD product tier 3 generation ago.

[@dark_s-t2y]

Same here with 2070 :)

[@Neko_3ricALT]

The fact I actually use lossless scaling for an RTX 3070 to actually use RTX at high FPS tells a lot about devs.

[@EpicTyphlosionTV]

I'm happy to see these super low end machines getting some love. Subbed.

[@Goal-nv2dz]

Because of your video lossless scaling is working on my intel hd graphics. I can enjoy high fps 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@thebigboatgaming]

You're welcome!

[@mruczyslaw50]

That GTA V looks worse than some homebrew for Game Boy Advance

[@ANIMEFAN-ym6tc]

Hey I played like that it wasn't that bad

[@bestcreate1417]

If U were playing in ps1 that's how the game worked

[@SakyGTR]

Some games you've tested that has slow motion upon testing, it has to do with the game following the physics framerate and I like you did listen the advices about capping the framerate and minding the CPU and GPU usage to let LS breathe some room for it

[@PusherFX]

Damn I was waiting was part 2 it's finally here !

[@SaulzMemez]

you should make a part 3 with diff games cause this is very fun to watch

[@Huguito]

It's very satisfying to see these experiments videos. I love it!! Excellent video dude. Subscribed!! 👏👏😁

[@Dktr-Dee]

"Squint your eyes to apply anti-aliasing" XD

[@100Bucks]

A old monitor can help as well. Old CRT monitors has 2 factors that helps alot. On CRT monitors bad resolution is good resolution. The second benefit is refresh rate. Old monitors have a higher refresh rate. Lossless Scaling can take advantage of that high refresh rate and convert it into fps. So if your old ass monitor has a refresh of 250hz. You can convert that 250fps using lossless scaling. Bad resolution should be paired with old CRT monitors.

[@Pbrinfinite0]

0:27 yo its me

[@srvuk]

Despite the poor graphics, when you consider what was being used, it is still impressive. There are quite a few Cherry Trail Z8000 machines out there that perhaps might show a decent enough performance to make it just worthwhile for some titles.

[@zenn4uuni]

Now finally i can play Shadow of Mordor with 25 fps

[@thebigboatgaming]

I used to play this game on the laptop in the video at 10-20 FPS using a really low resolution. It was quite playable still!

[@himanshu17112]

@@thebigboatgaming bro u r a legend salute u 😯😯

[@Mamiya645]

This is great, I have a NANOTE NEXT laptop heading my way that has a J4205, will be fun to see what that one can be subjected to!

[@highjim7778]

the app is great, im using it just to insert FG into games, with reflex on and boost theres no input lag either, double framerates and keeping native 1440p.

[@edwardlashley3572]

I think at some point installing steamOS is a better idea. I don’t think Linux tops windows largely due to lossless but a point exists where you just need more RAM & you aren’t gonna magically overcome that with Lossless. Lossless can only achieve so much before it’s a bridge too far but I heard that steam operating system can work some magic voodoo on an older machine. I don’t even own a machine old enough or under powered enough to try.

[@Saxofome]

What i've read "can lossless scaling save your photo"

[@thebigboatgaming]

@@Saxofome Lol

[@Hamburgesaaa]

lol same

[@t0uchme343]

while an actual potato is a bad idea, something like a more recent device or a steam deck is a good candidate for anything that gets stable 30-40 normally.

[@adeptalakay]

nice man i love lossless, i go from 60-120 with gtx 1650

[@kyperactive]

Not bad. Not bad at all. Lossless is effectively "rich get richer" if that makes sense. This will not save your redhead laptop, but it will give gains to decent hardware.

[@TheOriginalFlyhigh]

I WAS WAITING FOR THIS 🎉

[@ps_lol]

Imagine being GTA V Released on Mobile like this Graphics frr but is already possible right now but i like this content that if lossless scaling saves ur FPS alot and it is indeed possible :o

[@StormingMoon]

ok so if we have a issue with low resolution what if we torture this celeron and use a upscaler so it doesnt actually go to 720p but just upscales it

[@thecoolguyhelper6570]

The lossless scaling just crashes in my dads geforce 9500 gt lol

[@FloatSamplesGT710]

What PC do you have know, I mean your honest PC specs please !!

[@thecoolguyhelper6570]

@@FloatSamplesGT710 i dont have a pc but my father has a geforce 9500 gt with a intel core duo e5700 and 4gb of ddr2 ram with 18gb of space left he just does trading and stuff so he doesnt need much

[@Mohamed-yv5ws]

I think your only hope is emulation​@@thecoolguyhelper6570

[@ark8705]

Dude that pc is decade years old, you should treasure it while you can

[@RaduNerd]

4 seconds in and i js wanna say i used the same mouse as you for like 3 years :) its a great mouse

[@thebigboatgaming]

@@RaduNerd It's a really great mouse indeed, been using it for 5 years now I think :)

[@eduonkhl]

0:27 Neat I'm in the video! In all seriousness whenever you showed the graphics settings it was always showing fullscreen so that was the reason I thought you wheren't using borderless :P Besides the weird outlier of NFS MW 2005 the results are pretty impressive considering you handicapped yourself in 3 areas at once which is very aged hardware combined with being a low end product of the time and ultra low power consumption with probably below 10 watts of package power (idk if power consumption readout of the OSD is total package power or cpu only which is the more likely scenario) which is even less than the Steam Deck's power budget. Btw did you know that the performance OSD overlay has a performance cost in itself? I tested with a power meter measuring directly from the wall and whenever I turned on the OSD via the toggle I had an increase of 10 watts in power consumption from the wall. Tested by using a very low usage program that would allow for the overlay to trigger while idling. For powerful systems the difference is probably very negligible to the point of being margin of error but for a very low power system like this you could try if fps would improve by simply disabling the overlay (verify by counting frames on video capture if you have a fast enough camera like a phone supporting slow motion capture or while using 2 programs that measure fps and disabling one at a time which would enable you to find out if you could find a more lightweight fps counter without hardware readouts. You could still show both results depending on context or if you think it's relevant). Edit: Looks like I got extra coverage at 3:28 :D Pro tip from videos creator: Squint your eyes for free anti aliasing Cheers!

[@thebigboatgaming]

@eduonkhl Cheers! Regarding the power usage, I definitely think MSI Afterburner is showing the power usage for the whole package (CPU + iGPU), as crazy as it sounds, cuz when my CPU usage is very high, but integrated GPU usage low, the power usage is at around 2 W, but when the usage of the Intel HD Graphics is also very high, the power usage is usually at 3.5 W.

[@gevelegian]

I always enjoy the mandatory madness that we all share when we experiment with old tech.

[@blakegriplingph]

"Why are we still here, just to suffer?"

[@gianluna2799]

15:38 You're so fun to watch 😂

[@mulkialfimanalacnl5503]

best video for watch while eating 👍

[@shreyameshram]

This is insane

[@ayushxettri7070]

Ahh yess playing on my toaster has never been better

[@Goodbye_Eri]

I never play GTA V before until recently when i play it in my phone

[@Zeg-eh5ik]

What about games that this PC can actually run at 30/60 FPS like Classics NFS? Also, what about Outrun 2006 Coast to Coast and Slipstream (the newer one)?

[@caffeinatedhuman4035]

Maximum potato 😊

[@baronarikov1223]

Greetings from skopje

[@younesggalg]

Why did this pop up in my recommendations when i was just looking how to fix far cry 3 input latency lol

[@alexgravitos]

this video makes my laptop feel like a gaming beast. core i7 3840qm no dgpu if anyone's wondering

[@thebigboatgaming]

@@alexgravitos That quad-core i7 is pretty good tho still, even if you don't have a dedicated GPU. I have a Lenovo Legion Y520 with i7-7700HQ (and a dedicated GTX 1050 tho), and everyday tasks and video editing are extremely responsive and fast.

[@alexgravitos]

@@thebigboatgaming i've recently grabbed half a thinkpad with a 6th gen i5, gotta check how well ot performs in gta online. one day, once all the spare parts arrive, lol

[@Louisfe14]

I have a toshiba satellite c650 from 2003 I think and I succefully run modern minecraft with more than 60fps😎😎

[@matrixgames-yc8id]

your intel celeron n2840 4gb ram 500gb hdd crushes my intel celeron n3050 2gb ram 30gb sd (crazy there's still thousands of levels out there)

[@thebigboatgaming]

@@matrixgames-yc8id Yes, cuz of those 2 GB RAM and the crappy soldered to the motherboard 32 GB eMMC drive.

[@matrixgames-yc8id]

@thebigboatgaming but there's no worries I'm gonna keep it because I can always turn the resolution down to 120x64p

[@M4BurstYT]

If you set your monitor on its high resolution like 2k or 4k you will same performance but 3x improved picture quality and the settings I used in lossless scal- scaling type custom and set 3 or 4 and enable resize before and select lsfg 1.1 then check the performance and also select integers option

[@MrPoggerArmy]

You can understand pathetic condition of optimisation in games nowadays as im using lossless scaling frame generation in my rtx 2050

[@BonnieSmall-dn7ew]

in gta 4 if you want 60 fps go to a tunnel

[@Vladislav_6335]

Can you run Dark Messiah: Might of Magic on your laptop with integrated graphics & Intel Celeron N2840?

[@NoZeroGG]

rockstar can definitely port gta4-5 to mobile

[@play-good]

we need a video for RDR2 and cyberpunk 🤣🤣

[@thebigboatgaming]

RDR2 and Cyberpunk run at 144 FPS in 16k Max on this laptop Source: Trust me bro

[@play-good]

@@thebigboatgaming 🤣🤣

[@mulkialfimanalacnl5503]

nice video for lunch

[@KadoAnimates]

My fps in dark souls ptde went from 15 to my game crashing and my fps in other game with the settings reduces my fps from 17 to 3 My specs are 4gb ddr3 ram intel hd graphics 505 intel pentium n4200 i use hp probook x360 11 g1 ee Do you know any other apps i can use to do frame generation

[@karc4]

Bro that thing looks worse than gta III like hell naw just give up GTA V already good vid btw

[@shikikanaz4624]

Lossless scaling might work better if you can save up for a GTX 1650, RTX 2050 or even decent AMD radeon intergrated Graphics

[@Beam-Clips-Subsicribe]

THAT LOOKS AMAZING but i have a slight problem the mouse disappears and i have hide cursuor to off

[@Capp0]

So, there isnt any game that runs 60FPS on high

[@NullPointing]

have you tried disabling ui detection on config file?

[@AyaanThwainyAlThinine]

Isn't core 2 duo worse then this

[@Louis.7493]

what you do is get a job (i know pretty hard to even get one) and work your ass off to get something that isn't meant for home use OR pray to god in hopes of getting a gaming computer for 6 years straight i know from experience so all these desperate attempts in trying to run a 2013 game will make you lose your mind

[@ashwat2153]

What do you think will this work in i5 3470 8 gb ram intel hd 2500 graphic

[@thebigboatgaming]

Yes, but you have to use very low resolutions. 640x400 is the highest resolution I would recommend for the Intel HD 2500.

[@demen9497]

15:37 LMAOOO

[@jonnyboris9129]

Finally I can play late game Stellaris with a ton of mods on my shitty nitro5 rtx3050ti Ryzen7 5800h 🎉

[@thebigboatgaming]

You seriously think that's shitty?! What about my 2017 Lenovo Legion Y520 with i7-7700HQ and GTX 1050 4GB??? 🥺🥺🥺

[@Kyuc4]

lossless scaling should be free

[@sxonova]

ngl i love your accent where you from?

[@thebigboatgaming]

I'm from Bulgaria

[@donzftbl]

bro why my games turns blue like all blue color 😢😢

[@gnrtx-36969]

Man is there any way to make this thing work on hd 2000? So i could use that gpu for upscaling and frame gen while my dgpu run the actual game

[@thebigboatgaming]

@@gnrtx-36969 Unfortunately, no. Intel HD Graphics 2000 supports up to DirectX 10.1 only. Lossless Scaling requires DirectX 11 to work. Even if Intel HD 2000 supported DirectX 11, I wouldn't recommend using the integrated GPU for Lossless Scaling cuz the performance would've been really bad in high resolutions, and by high resolutions I mean even something like 800x600 or higher. On my gaming laptop with GTX 1050 4 GB and i7-7700HQ, when I use the i7's Intel HD Graphics 630 for Lossless Scaling, even when the game is running on the GTX 1050 as normal, the performance is quite poor compared to when I'm using the dedicated GTX 1050 for the frame gen too, especially in 720p or higher resolutions.

[@gnrtx-36969]

@@thebigboatgaming well ig i should connect my pc to laptop via capture card and then frame generate

[@imthejerryguy]

good video !!!

[@gaithgaith5925]

Please, where can I download the game? I have tried many sites. Every time I try to decompress the files, it says: error extract file any one give me a link 😔

[@3d9d]

hah, somehow i survived with these specs, nowdays i think how.

[@radumihai139]

Will this save my 1650 for future proof gaming?

[@thebigboatgaming]

@@radumihai139 Probably?

[@abdoolraoufheerbannally7838]

Try out khorvie pc optimization guide 2024 on the celeron laptop.

[@himanshu-5546]

Is there any way to play without blurring our game My eyes 🥴

[@Noa15Lv]

Just sit further away from your monitor/tv.

[@himanshu-5546]

​@@Noa15Lvanother way not this

[@thebigboatgaming]

@@himanshu-5546 Yes, here's a pro tip: Buy a better PC 😆

[@Noa15Lv]

@@thebigboatgaming Or in more cheaper way, an second hand PS4 which can be jailbroken and pre-installed with emulators & games.

[@thebigboatgaming]

@@Noa15Lv I see, but PC Master Race ftw!

[@Kamerzystanasyt]

i did the same thing on dell laptop inside roblox and it was more laggy then before

[@orignalgigacat]

I'm using x-lite too!!!!

[@Kruger6]

What other laptops do you own?

[@thebigboatgaming]

@@Kruger6 I also have a Lenovo Legion Y520 with Intel Core i7-7700HQ, NVIDIA GTX 1050 4 GB Non-Ti, 16 GB RAM and 256 GB NVMe SSD + 1 TB HDD. 🙂

[@sarhangrasool4929]

Good video

[@GameTechFusion-7]

Yo my man. I forgot about you. I got a 3k views channel

[@thebigboatgaming]

@@GameTechFusion-7 Nice! Btw, I'll be returning soon with a new video

[@GameTechFusion-7]

@@thebigboatgaming yessss

[@zerotwo_hiro8595]

bro why i using lossless scaling but my fps decreasing from the original i using intel celeron n4120,ram4 😭

[@thebigboatgaming]

@@zerotwo_hiro8595 You need to play the games at a very low resolution, such as 512x384 or 640x400 at best.

[@lockjaw2007]

bro playing gta v mincraft edition

[@sushantdeula6852]

In gta 4 i was able to play the game about 25-30 fps

[@FloatSamplesGT710]

Don't mistake me, but atleast we have pretty decent pc to play gta 5 at 1080p high now

[@kingboss9763]

Why my lossless scaling not working

[@OnBrandRP]

The thing people constantly forget about when it comes to frame generation is you need an overhead in performance to gain a benefit. You need at least 4gb of vram to even really get a ideal uptake in performance. You would want at least 6gb's for the actual overhead. Basically you need VRAM because frame generation requires a decently high amount of it. Else you end up using your regular ram and when that runs out you use your page file. If the pagefile then gets used up, you're stuck with a instant crash.

[@shikikanaz4624]

THIS. people just dont understand it isnt a magical FPS generator which can be misleading by the "frame generation" thing. it actually requires some decent hardware

[@Neko_3ricALT]

try optimizing Windows, or maybe install an optimized version of Windows, It might improve performance

[@thebigboatgaming]

@@Neko_3ricALT Read the description

[@Neko_3ricALT]

@@thebigboatgaming Sorry! I did not see that one! Thanks for telling me! I hope you have a nice day

[@MahinMiyamoto]

GTA V on ps1 gfx

[@sosman64]

what is your opinion on egypt

[@AidenSaha]

iam playing myth wukong in my 1660s with this software in 30fps cap . smooth asf

[@TSOLYRICS]

Overrated game asf

[@AidenSaha]

@@TSOLYRICS true bro nothing special just bosses in every plot

[@TheWalkingMice]

I mean, its i game based on the novel journey to the west, which came out in the 1600, theyre trying to keep everything as accurate as possible, also theyre a brand new studio, before they made bmw, they only made games for phones​@@TSOLYRICS

[@Anxnda]

I hope that you not only have that pc because you spent like pretty much more on games than on a pc.

[@alexnewtron3579]

Duh he pirated all of them

[@thebigboatgaming]

@@Anxnda Don't worry, I also have a Lenovo Legion Y520 with Intel Core i7-7700HQ and GTX 1050 4GB! 😊

[@quentonc5806]

yo install throttlestop and try to increase power and increase clocks in both igpu and cpu if u can, if u want even better performance 8 gbs ddr3 and a ssd

[@thebigboatgaming]

The 8 GB RAM and SSD upgrades are very good indeed! However, increasing the power usage would make the poor little Celeron overheat itself. I mean, dude, this laptop doesn't have any kind of a cooling system, the piece of s**t Celeron is passively cooled and temps reach up to 80°C under load when room temperature is high 😭😭😭

[@BarTetel]

Now try it on a Ryzen 4070

[@thebigboatgaming]

@@BarTetel It's gonna run at 0.00001 FPS 😆😆😆

[@yourlocalhuman-o4l]

Can you even play gta san andreas with 60 fps?

[@thebigboatgaming]

@@yourlocalhuman-o4l Nah, even that is a bit too much for Celetrash N2840 😭

[@yourlocalhuman-o4l]

@@thebigboatgaming omfg 💀💀

[@bobmarly7654]

Bro , just play on windows emulator on phone , you gonna run some games at 60 fps in ultra

[@zdim4469]

potato not but pumpkin yea ..

[@bsababo3]

Can lossless scaling work with intle hd graphics 4000

[@thebigboatgaming]

@@bsababo3 Yes, but you might also have to use very low resolutions, such as 640x480 or 512x384.

[@Mohammad_albaloshi2001]

can you play genshin impact on this pc?

[@SlenderMaster1509]

You should try getting the Gta 5 fsr mod it will help you a lot

[@Lesnik_Official]

Yeah, five mega pixels

[@thebigboatgaming]

@@Lesnik_Official More like 0.5 Mega Pixels 😄

[@Lesnik_Official]

@@thebigboatgaming Like the camera in Sony Erickson

[@Lesnik_Official]

​@@thebigboatgamingBelarusians love potato pcs

[@AbulHabul-vv9vp]

Can i increase my resolution with intel hd 4000

[@thebigboatgaming]

@@AbulHabul-vv9vp Maybe to 640x480???

[@AbulHabul-vv9vp]

@@thebigboatgaming doesn't matter I just found out that it doesn't support win 7 😞

[@thebigboatgaming]

@@AbulHabul-vv9vp RIP for Windows 7 users 💀

[@AbulHabul-vv9vp]

I got a windows 10 but pressing scaling just makes it small a screen with black bars in both sides and doesn't increase fps😢

[@zarijezeqiri4785]

Nice vid could you do lag fix on fortnite?

[@mukeshuikey6558]

Gta 5 but ps1 version

[@lowcake2030]

does this work for the nvidia gt 210

[@thebigboatgaming]

@@lowcake2030 Maybe

[@violonist-pl4tt]

Even my 2009 sony vaio vpccw16fg is more powerful