Can LYING Be Good?? | Sanders Sides

Everyone, at one time or another, has been confronted with the moral dilemma of telling the truth to a friend or loved one. Are there caveats to the moral principle of honesty? Are there situations where lying is the right thing to do? In this video, one such dilemma is encountered and the Sanders Sides are all trying to get down to the bottom of what's the truth on lying! This video is a DOOZY. Hope you enjoy!
Thank you so much to my AMAZING friends, Joan and Talyn, for helping me with the filming, special effects, props, makeup, and costumes included in this video!! So much hard work from both of them!!
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Works Cited:
Different Types of Lies - www.scienceofpeople.com/diffe...
Is it Ever Okay to Lie | Philosophy Tube - • Is it Ever Okay to Lie...
How to Spot a Liar | Pamela Meyer - • How to spot a liar | P...
7 Phrases in a Liars Vocabulary - www.ksl.com/?sid=23594271
Why We Lie and How to Stop - www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...
Moral Particularism - plato.stanford.edu/entries/mo...

[@swedisheek]

“you’re LAZY *AND* you’re GAY???” my senior quote.

[@lunafox45]

This is so underrated lmao

[@gayjebus4079]

yes

[@syd6185]

Lol, this is a description of my life!

[@mariamgomaa1242]

Man I wish

[@imhumaniswear6736]

I love you

[@ricklax5919]

I just realized that.... if everything Deceit says is lying, when he says “it’s Logan, everyone’s favorite character!” he’s really saying either “it’s Logan, no one’s favorite character” or “it’s Logan, everyone’s least favorite character.” Poor Logan.

[@th1ny-248]

Poor logan

[@May-cf2bz]

Virgil (in a previous video) : get over it you're the least popular character and you know it (to Logan

[@ryanwagner3890]

Not everything he says is a lie, sometimes he's just sarcastic.

[@ryanwagner3890]

@@cjck1344 'Cause he's sarcastic?

[@cjck1344]

Ryan Wagner NO L O G A N

[@bludcrust9910]

"you know me, your- i don't know- brother?" "-who he calls mr. thomas??? i don't-" is a criminally underrated line and no one can change my mind

[@claireaquos6532]

Agree

[@a.c.s3824]

It's truly beautiful

[@who.is_updog_]

AAGH. Great moment. 10/10.

[@Thatonenerd88]

That and Thomas: Who’s his understudy Roman: Meeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!

[@Baddexample16]

Amazing line

[@greekfreak1436]

Deceit saying Logan is everyone’s favorite character was just cold

[@c0r3_3rr0r]

yeah oh damn just realised how janus saying that would hurt-

[@Ash-it4hw]

My heart!

[@MickeyTheCake]

*d a m n*

[@kittycathxp397]

well it does seem to be actually true,sure not *every* one but a lot

[@victrive]

Virgil's side eye at that

[@z0mbi3b0y3]

"YOU'RE LAZY AND GAY????YOU'RE FIRED!!!" All my future bosses

[@sugarcrystal8122]

Yeemo Trash How to very sneakily come out to KZbin without anyone noticing

[@jserna-geddings226]

Mood

[@jserna-geddings226]

Mood. And then add trans.

[@dragonhuntress8683]

δαΜε

[@dragonhuntress8683]

Ι fοΓΦοτ Το δψιτΩΗ το ενΦιΙδΗ

[@madelinevb8430]

Can we just appreciate Thomas acting as a side of himself who is acting as another side of himself while talking to three more sides and one whole of himself whom he acts as also. Now that, is acting.

[@jumbo-bo]

@Katelynn Shipe Yeah it does

[@eo1136]

I had to read this twice and break it apart in order to understand it

[@skelet0nk1ng57]

Katelynn Shipe same

[@Sophie-nk1pi]

Wait what I’m a bit confused Edit:took me a while but I got it

[@mgitztrash7581]

How to understand it xD : Thomas is pretty much acting as all the sides 🙃

[@RachelNoirValisare]

Still can't believe how differently they sound from each other. I can close my eyes and differentiate between Virgil, Logan, Janus, Roman, and Patton. The fact that they're the same person still blows my mind years later.

[@wingedkatgirl]

I know!

[@-littlestar-8072]

But what is they aren't and that's just what they want you to think?

[@gregjayonnaise8314]

@@-littlestar-8072 The main characters have just been played by a bunch of septuplets for all these years

[@plutoandpolaris]

I didn’t truly appreciate how hard that is until I started playing dnd. Making your different characters have a distinct voice is DIFFICULT

[@dropletq3477]

i find that the differences in their voices is actually hilarious cause its just his regular plus a small twist in phrasing and conversation patterns. logan is lowest of the voices with janus. both of them coming from a speech pattern that uses tone to denote seriousness. where janus has flair to over hint deceit while logan more monotone or robotic only changing when becoming more active virgil the next in line but having a rougher tone and making him sound darker more edgy. denoting being anxiety, a tool used as a defence against social stigma and pain patton being the most firm and fatherly (given that was his original character before sides became more fleshed out) giving a higher voice cause of his positive demeanor the highest being roman and remus as they are both creativity and aspirations. remus as impulsive thought and intrusive thought while roman is creative thought and dreams. the main difference is remus having the most flair and actual accent.

[@NamelessSwine]

In "accepting anxiety" when Roman said: "and you're nothing compared to the others " Hé was immediately quite after, and everyone dismissed it out of character. That could've been Deciet/Janus stopping them from saying...

[@Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice]

oh ho ho .... yes indeed i think you are right, i think he even put his hand to his mouth

[@helenzikos4297]

crap... he did put his hand on his mouth...

[@ashadowperson9905]

He was like "Shut your trap Roman! Now is not the time."

[@prettydragonbaby112]

OMFG U R GENIUS

[@colorgachagamer3255]

The fact that this also got 666 likes makes this better

[@digmanzo2022]

Unpopular opinion: Deceit is how Thomas is such a good actor. Think about it: Deceit dressed up and acted like Patton so well, he temporarily fooled everyone, and acting is pretending to be someone/something you are not. Sure Roman, and even Logan contributes by learning and being inspired by others, but Deceit is probably the main reason for the acting skills.

[@laurenmaher8381]

... holy s**t you're right!

[@meepmoop4335]

agreed

[@CrashNCash]

Lol ur making my brain hurt

[@norefhesalazar719]

Hmmmm I mean it kinda makes sence

[@annag5963]

well almost everyone virgil knew from the beginning but dang u have a point

[@TIHISTS]

Honestly, hearing "they/them" used as normally as "he/him" makes me feel super valid.

[@theatreclown399]

sleep/dream same, also how he says guys gals and non binary pals. My heart goes 🥰🥰🥰

[@TIHISTS]

@@theatreclown399 💕💕💕💕

[@caede5]

Yeah it makes me so happy!!

[@kitwarrior4life124]

That’s cuz you are valid.

[@ericvanryzin7607]

I think Joan goes by they/them anyway.

[@FREAKOFNATURE-mb8oo]

*_22:24_**_- I love how Virgil actually laughs when Patton makes jokes sometimes. Its like a little kid in their edgy phase when their dad makes them laugh-_*

[@who.is_updog_]

:D

[@implantman]

You got that right on the money

[@victoriasalazar4124]

It's adorable father and son😊💜💙

[@meh7499]

The way the whole room LITERALLY lit up when Patton came back. Like..literally, they changed the lighting.

[@caracrotalus]

And on this episode of details of cool details I missed despite multiple rewatches

[@jose_rvh]

I never noticed that!! So cool

[@gabybladen5803]

I've just realised: Virgil was the first one of all of the characters to figure out the plot twist of this video. He is smarter than we know: he even put the pieces together faster than Logan. We mustn't underestimate him

[@althepal6035]

Gaby Bladen well he's the anxious side he'd be over thinking everything yknow, notice the difference in "Patton" first

[@gabybladen5803]

Al The Pal Yeah, I can understand that. But I would have thought that Logan would have picked up on it too. As the logical side, it would have made sense to me if he at least picked up on the changes in 'Patton' faster than he actually did. It was a pleasant surprise to me that Virgil was the first to figure it out; it just shows how far he's come since his first appearance. He knows Patton well enough to notice when he's out of character. It makes me very happy 😊

[@theoutsiderjess4869]

Gaby Bladen which makes Virgil my favorite

[@jameshailbot223]

Virgil over thinks everything and is naturally distrustful of people

[@nickjames8377]

I think it's because he technically counts at a "dark side".

[@Alfie_Creations]

" I have worked here, selling hot topic merch for a long time now" Virgil: nice.

[@r3m221]

Aww you think I'm hot

[@ginacampana2321]

He's Hot Topic's MVP costumer.

[@confu5ed_]

"Yes, and-"

[@em7626]

No he said nice for the Yes and theatre reference

[@bitterhibiscus1156]

Virgil is the biggest mood

[@ttea.isdumb]

"Nice gloves. Did you just finish washing the dishes?" *smugly* "Yes."

[@DarkS1ayer100]

Hey just because he's evil doesn't mean he can't have clean dishes. XD

[@wingedkatgirl]

That part was so funny to me XD

[@AriTheArtist280]

MABYE HE DID JUST FINISH WASHING THE DISHES

[@ttea.isdumb]

@@AriTheArtist280 that’s what i’m saying

[@jeonghunoh208]

Notice how “Patton” was completely ok, even encouraging of Thomas practicing his Deceit. The real Patton wouldn’t allow this at all. Even before the big reveal from Deceit, Patton was more extreme, pushy, manipulative, maybe even smarter than usual.

[@eelthan]

he references kant, i'd say smarter as well lol

[@gabbyp1934]

Yeah I did notice that. I thought it was super out of character and also super funny, with the whole Kant study bit

[@who.is_updog_]

And I don't think Patton would take Roman's spot as director. He wants everyone to be happy. Patton would love to be his audience. But that may be my Patton kinnie mind kicking in.

[@jeonghunoh208]

@@who.is_updog_ Honestly I’d say the same too, but that could also be my Patton kinnie coming through too lol

[@Thatonenerd88]

I think right before he was revealed, he knew Vergil at least suspected who he was and he started trying to hold on to the rooze.

[@evataki2226]

"You're lazy AND you're gay????? You're fired!" Wow I feel attacked

[@gleegirltayler934]

it literally me except i’m pan

[@chadgmt4099]

Eva Taki "Well im hopelessly crushed!😆"

[@sparkyboomboomboi7051]

Me too #PAN

[@chloemack02]

Same

[@TobiahThornwood]

dude me too. Though I'm Bi and pan romantic but hush.

[@ayoimanidiot2231]

When “Patton” said “oh look it’s Logan everyone’s favorite character” Virgil realizes it deceit

[@user-ns7qh1gh6i]

When?

[@fanboyistransboy5089]

PeacePanda 101 yeah, I noticed that too. Logan is the least enjoyed as far as I’ve seen. Personally he’s my favorite but I know I’m in the minority

[@ayoimanidiot2231]

1:09-1:15

[@megalunalexi5601]

I love that line. If you take everything Deceit says as the exact opposite of the truth, this is one of the lines that doesn't work! It's still a lie to say that *nobody* likes logan. It's the first tiny bit of nuance we get for Deceit :D

[@salendiamystic4326]

He noticed as soon as he saw patton not pop up but appear instead

[@noemie.schirrer3693]

I love how Janus doesn’t rise up or sink down, he just wAlKs iN and waLKs oUt lmao Slimy boi I love my dark strange sons

[@claireaquos6532]

Watch again! He does sink down!

[@noemie.schirrer3693]

@@claireaquos6532 my bad

[@Ash-it4hw]

Same as Virgil!!! Logan: “You do this thing where you kind of just appear” in accepting anxiety

[@nightcoreanimegod5102]

I'd say my top favorite characters right now are virgil first deceit second and not sure about the others cause I love them all but my top favorite are those two🙃

[@Take_2.2]

Great comment, but "I love my dark strange sons" has the same energy as "I love my dead gay son" from Heathers

[@robin2527]

Roman *called deceit a scooby-doo villain* Deceit: and i took that personally

[@thatastastan]

Then in SvS: “Who was it that was called a Scooby-Doo villain for doing the exact same thing? Oh yeah, it was me! Disguised as Patton!”

[@claireaquos6532]

Let's not forget the end of "Embarasing phases" were it's implay he desguise himself as Scooby-doo XD I love him so much

[@mackensiehamstra387]

Virgil is every techie when working with bad actors or directors: “So many things!!!!” “ I CAN’T BE EVERY WHERE AT ONCE” “It was on the prop table, did you move it?” “It was in the green room, why was it in the green room?” Distressed and slightly angry groan

[@mvtt_boy]

Also hes eDgY™

[@littleweirdo6572]

Virgil just running around all stressed out and all I can think is, "Patton is not Patton!" Along with laughing to almost everything that was going on......

[@elizahansen1777]

YESSSS I RELATE

[@samdoesntcare7860]

Virgil is me when I’m stage tech. You know what, Virgil is just me in general. Let’s just be honest with ourselves. 😂

[@elizahansen1777]

@Maximillia McGalliant SAAAME

[@jordanvest4400]

Logan yelling "DECEIT" has the same energy as him yelling "FALSEHOOD!"

[@bellameedriver5317]

I mean...they’re kinda the same thing-

[@mx.moobloom]

@@bellameedriver5317 I-

[@faithylulu]

I love your profile pic!! I love jacksepticeye

[@jordanvest4400]

@@faithylulu thanks!

[@_Wayne_A]

FALSEHOOD NOTHING CAN HAVE THE SAME ENERGY AS FALSEHOOD

[@coyotix]

"Wait, Hugh Jackman is in this!?" "No, his understudy is going on tonight." "Who's his understudy?" "MEEEE! **pretty pink princess twirl**"

[@avajones6835]

LOVE the description!

[@cr0wn3d.]

Thomas: are you my *mummy?* Logan: doctor who reference, Fantastic. One of my favourite moments

[@seaweed_7221]

same

[@annabethchase4326]

“Boyfriend? What boyfriend? How many lies are we telling”

[@remyalto1458]

Me summarized in 3 sentences....

[@solve_the_cipher6977]

“W-what boyf riend!?!?”

[@InternetPersonas_32]

Broadway 101! Is that a bmc reference?

[@solve_the_cipher6977]

Gramma and grandpa Stop using this account .....maybe

[@user-dw6zg5fc5t]

Me

[@ohlookitsmystic]

"Are there any other sides that Deceit has hidden away from me?" _stands in the corner eating deodorant_ no......

[@lxvely5614]

This made me laugh way too hard

[@annaf2370]

Pickled poo logs.

[@TwixterQueen3]

@@lxvely5614 saaame

[@imthetrashman8620]

Virgil: *sweating*

[@lilsgrey1765]

XxMysticDaisyxX pffffffffff

[@sunflowersandsarcasm4518]

No one: Absolutely no one: Roman pulling a Virgil face when Patton teaches him about honesty.

[@lovekiyo2352]

TO-TA-LLY

[@_Circe]

I’ve noticed that whenever Deceit disguises himself as someone, they never rise up in the same way as the usual Sides. He just appears or rises up in an unusual way. It’s something all Dark Sides do, even Virgil. Also, Deceit seems to have to continually describe the character that he’s playing in order to make it more believable which is another dead give away.

[@piercedsiren]

True, true. When he appears as Logan he also just *appears* out of nowhere.

[@abbotmortimer1593]

"... emphasis on the oopsie, because you were a mistake." JOAN LMAO

[@ORIrelish]

... mE- I am a mistake-

[@r3m221]

@@ORIrelish you are a fander so obviously you aren't

[@k8tieisjusthere123]

Lizzicana Playz no

[@random6077]

I am the mistake.

[@k8tieisjusthere123]

Aria Glenndale no you’re not

[@amousenamedjay6638]

“You’re lazy and you’re gay?!” Yes, yes I am.

[@logicallyblue3814]

YoUrE lAzY aNd YoUrE gAy Me: Lazy yes, gay, no idea cus I'm forever alone ☹️

[@-incorrect_slytherclaw296-5]

Hm well that sentence is practically my hecking life.

[@ameliabrown4219]

Nice profile pic

[@-incorrect_slytherclaw296-5]

Amelia Brown Yours too. Are you a Ravenclaw?

[@ameliabrown4219]

@@-incorrect_slytherclaw296-5 yep

[@laikajimin4149]

17:49 that moment virgil had had enough with deceit's facade. You can see it clearly in his face. The way he despised deceit pretending to be patton

[@gwenpines3526]

Thomas's shirt changes at 19:42, it becomes the full skull, and then it changes again at 21:35, to the flowers in the shape of the skull. It goes back to the skull at 21:51, and to the half-skull at 22:08, and then to full flowers at 22:22. Could it be representative of Deceit's influence? Or maybe how much Thomas believes Deceit's lies?

[@wingedkatgirl]

I think it's whether or not Deceit is disguised as Patton

[@panjackalope9378]

OK GOOD I WASNT THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED

[@brir6769]

Or the two theatre masks

[@pastellicblues6077]

when you realize that Deceit called Logan “everyone’s favorite character.” not Patton. LEAVE LOGAN ALONNEEE 🥺

[@AUBREY-ml4ex]

LOGAN IS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER DECEIT! I mean, they all are my favorite (even the dark sides) but Logan is an amazing character!

[@minheezer8786]

Pastellic Blues oop-

[@youtuberfangirlnamededyn6186]

It’s because that deceit hates how Logan ruins everything he does because he is the opposite of him, a VERY smart move on Thomas’ part

[@AUBREY-ml4ex]

@@youtuberfangirlnamededyn6186 Actualy that does make sense.

[@kristianadedvukaj7908]

while reading this, i realized that deceit was probably lying when he said that too. #JUSTICEFORLOGAN

[@toritalkstheories]

“You’re lazy 𝘢𝘯𝘥 you’re gay?!” Story of my life.

[@bearinara]

same

[@callmeravenlee1972]

Same

[@worldkitemuseum]

Same

[@CCTubbo]

Same

[@shindaedaemon8732]

It even says it in your username

[@Kate-rr4rh]

Rewatching this I think the reason j- deceit called Virgil friendo instead of kiddo is because at the end of accepting anxiety part2 when Roman goes back into Virgil’s room to try and steal his posters, he calls him friendo and j- deceit could have heard and thought that’s something they regularly call Virgil

[@bumbabees]

that's an interesting theory. I never thought about that.

[@Brooke0103]

Ik this was a year ago but SO TRUE

[@inkyphobic3394]

Spoilers)) when "Patton" first said "WOW I'm so proud of you Thomas. You're SO mature." I feel like we all internally screamed and freaked out.

[@cosmosis7820]

Virgil told “Patton” to shut up, and that they weren’t friends because he knew it wasn’t Patton. He suspected it was Deceit, but he knew it wasn’t Patton. At first i was sad when he said they weren’t friends but it all made sense in the end and i love that.

[@Harlem55]

Wait, isn't virgil telling patton to shut up most of the time anyways? Oh wait that's Roman.

[@calypso5677]

Timestamp?

[@stevex1716]

Whats timestamp?

[@calypso5677]

The time it occurred

[@hanakodeservesdonuts9361]

17:56

[@quiblidibblioniay7885]

Thomas: **has watched the Office bloopers 15 and a half times before** Me: **has watched the Sanders Sides bloopers 15 and a half times before**

[@Hessonite_Dragon_Helen]

Imma Bookchild hmmmmm same thing

[@quiblidibblioniay7885]

Helen Elder yep

[@pandapanda7119]

Me: **has watched both**

[@Hessonite_Dragon_Helen]

Panda Panda 711 you are a pile of poop needing to type this at midnight I’m doing it cause I’m nocturnal it runs through my moms genes and now mine

[@quiblidibblioniay7885]

Helen Elder, they may be in a different time zone as you. It’s nowhere near midnight where I am.

[@soggywaffles-oo2gi]

“(Evil laugh) You foolish dummy. I HAVE and ALWAYS BEEN PATTON!!” That made me laugh so hard!! Idk why, it’s just one of my favorite lines.

[@cryptic_wither]

YAS

[@carlybaker8863]

I am dying the face that Virgil makes when he sees that Patton has returned AAAAAA it is so adorable 🥰 😍

[@anotherartist8439]

Deceit: “Well, it’s all about priorities, friendo.” Virgil and literally everyone: *insert the vine of that child* YOU’RE NOT MY DAD!

[@imthebesteverfr]

No Patton Sorry for bad spelling

[@solaris_hereandqueer]

I thought so too, He says Kiddo, not Friendo

[@tuxdraws8004]

Cupcake Kitty Patton :)

[@finn01268]

*When Your Likes On Your Comment Are 666*

[@oblivilion8342]

Cupcake Kitty *Patton 😊

[@maggieberkey4685]

I just realized something- Deceit was posing as Patton almost the entire time. And when Logan showed up, Deceit/Patton said "Logan! Everyone's favorite character!" At the time everyone just thought it was just Patton being nice. But as we know, Deceit speaks mostly lies... *Apply ice to burned area*

[@DaSpringBunny]

TELL THAT TO CROFTERS

[@jamiebarr6442]

he also just appeared instead of rising up!

[@quarantineboredom914]

@@jamiebarr6442 that’s true Also when Virgil was still considering a “dark side” he just appeared but now he’s rising up

[@helenzikos4297]

crap...

[@tai4263]

To be fair- I did think i scented a bit of sarcasm

[@_lilly_eva]

Janus’ reveal was the BEST reveal in the series in my opinion. I love it so much and the music reflects the character so well

[@gabethegamer8547]

The Unfortunate thing is that when Patton says look Logan everyone's favorite character he's really deceit so he's being well deceitful

[@dead-strawberrie]

Non fander: wth is sanders sides?? Me: *florida man stands in his living room talking to himself for 10-50 minutes and his friends help him film it*

[@rainwilson4036]

genius

[@keiraoliver1705]

My favorite part was probably YES, AND As an actor

[@solis_nova]

BAHAHAHA

[@dead-strawberrie]

No one: Rehearsals: 14:41

[@calliesommers8380]

You are Thomas?

[@ZaneEnthusiast]

Omg- You can also tell “Patton” is decit because HE DIDN’T DO A SINGLE DAD JOKE-

[@shubertv_]

I didn't realize one of my favourite youtubers watched Sanders Sides-

[@shubertv_]

@YT_Gremlin To Calies TvT

[@eruhaben4932]

He also said friendo instead of kiddo

[@stranguhh2878]

BRO, OKAY SO YOU KNOW HOW THE DARK SIDE'S DON'T RISE UP? well.... At 0:23 Patton/Decite doesn't rise up.. that's why he surprises Thomas! That's was Decite the whole time... Oml💀

[@lunaplayz8783]

•Calies Art• he didn’t make a dad joke in the first 2 minutes off when he showed up I was already suspicious 😒

[@bumbabees]

the way Logan said "falsehood." after Deceit said "what you don't know can't hurt you." was, admittedly, pretty badass. Logan is so much cooler than he's given credit for.

[@nerdywolverine7704]

Patton’s reaction after Roman says “and that was the last thing she gave to me before she died!”

[@whenitgrowsbright]

*Janus

[@whenitgrowsbright]

Not Patton

[@peepeepoopoo5861]

When deceit was disgised as Patton, the skull on Thomas's shirt was half flower. Half white. When he revealed himself the skull went fully white. When Patton came back, it went full on patterned with flowers.

[@davidpeal4115]

I noticed the shirt change too!!!

[@michaelxennard9564]

Me to

[@MonsieurCapgras]

.... MORE CONSPIRACY TIME

[@peepeepoopoo5861]

@@MonsieurCapgras y e s

[@-incorrect_slytherclaw296-5]

Okay? Who???? Actually notices these things????

[@hauntedhorrorberry]

"Who's his understudy?" "MEeEEEEeEEeeEe!" Love Roman a little more every episode

[@thetruthof8949]

Jade Chocoberry I can relate

[@bookforager1253]

(excuse my fangirl moment, I couldn't hold it in) *inhale* SO DOES VIRGIL!

[@cocoacatto]

Don't we all do that ??

[@darkenmidnight5153]

@@bookforager1253 obviously

[@whereisjouno]

@@bookforager1253 eeeeek

[@nolanthenormal1542]

Did nobody notice that when the real Patton appeared Virgil smiled adorably Virgil doesn't smile often but when he does It's precious

[@C3L3ST1AL]

Why isn’t anyone talking about how deceit disguised as Patton said that Logan is everyone’s favorite character?

[@azureprime]

*me who has seen like hundreds of comments talking about this exact thing before seeing this one*

[@TheRibottoStudios]

"Impressed isn't the word I'd use." *Virgil says as he shifts from foot to foot ANXIOUSLY.* The son of a gun KNEW. FROM. THE. START. Oh my goodness. That's actually kind of badass. CONSTANT VIGILANCE!

[@corinneisverycool]

constant *virgilance*

[@ohlookitsmystic]

@@corinneisverycool a pun that Patton would highly approve of

[@tiildeath]

I guess you could say he’s... *paranavirgilant*

[@TheRibottoStudios]

@@tiildeath.....I love everything about this Comment lol

[@theboogeyman2590]

He also say they might not be friends, which Virgil wouldnt say to Patton

[@spicybento]

Thomas: "Selling hot topic clothing." Virgil: "NiCe"

[@zimmygirl777]

There's nothing wrong with Hot Topic. That's where I get my shirts. Some awesome stuff with Invader Zim. Pikachu onesie.🐶👽

[@zimmygirl777]

@cherry colored cloudsYeah, bruh.👽🤖

[@GhostBouDB]

Actually, Virgil was saying “Nice” because of the “Yes and”

[@TheLunahaven]

CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR MORE RECENT EPISODES!!!! I like the detail when Roman said “The Dark Sides”, Virgil had a weird look on his face. I think it’s because he, having been one of “them”, he didn’t like that naming. He doesn’t, in my opinion, see them as the “Dark” ones. He understands that it’s not all black and white. Heck, he is THAT EXAMPLE, having his character switch, and be seen as both from time to time. Sorry for the rant.

[@BerryClouds.]

Yeah! And you can also see him refer to “The Dark Sides” as “The Others”

[@piercedsiren]

I mean yes, in the intrusive thoughts episode at the end when Virgil says he's sorry about not protecting Thomas against them, Thomas says "the dark sides? " And Virgil says "the others." before the reveal.

[@wheeleryey3271]

Just think about how cute it would be if Janus really thinks that babies come from messager falcons

[@parist6735]

"Boyfriend? How many lies are we telling here?!?" MOOD

[@imatcpell1987]

Mood to the max

[@SuperSports0883]

I know right

[@yikesno580]

Thomas: “-selling hot topic merch” Roman: “No” Thomas: “Yes and” Me and Virgil: “Niceee 👍”

[@alexnoga3466]

Exactly

[@gamercat3839]

Literally what I do

[@AshTheClosetedMuffin]

lol

[@literallymothman4596]

noice.

[@JaffaCakes4221]

Yikes No I still don’t understand-

[@Paradox_Incognito]

"Are you my mummy?" The only Dr. Who reference I'll ever get

[@elliesimon433]

Looking back, knowing 'Patton' is Janus/Deceit, it's interesting to realize how much Thomas foreshadowed. We never see Patton "rise up", as all the Light sides do. We see him appear, something only the dark sides do. "Patton's" voice being on the slight side of _wrong_ The lack of dad jokes from "Patton". The wrong hoodie. "Impressed isn't the word I'd use" Virgil being the first to catch on 14:10 Patton does a lie of omission right after having a discussion on lies of omission (beautiful) 15:06 "Patton" making a death joke even though Patton would never because he's too precious And now, looking back, Patton's music doesn't play when he shows up. Well done, Thomas Edited because I can’t spell 😂

[@piercedsiren]

Patton making a slicing throat motion (he would never) and being very pushy (he doesn't want to hurt feelings) are two things he wouldn't do.

[@susie5732]

“HOW DARE YOU STAND WHERE HE STOOD” Just a um throw a little Harry Potter reference in there I like

[@youtubelogic7043]

I solemnly swear I am up to no good....

[@susie5732]

Hahahahahahaha

[@abbywill986]

I didn't even realize. Haha

[@mmworm2615]

666 likes

[@gachadoodles2913]

“TELL THEM HOW IT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT”

[@cole2368]

"You're lazy AND YOU'RE GAY?!?!?!?!?" me in a nutshell

[@elderflower2133]

Nicole Pappas mememe

[@balieymiller8183]

Nicole Pappas SAME shout out to all the lesbians!!!!!

[@zoregemyt3483]

#relatable

[@kowallawok9750]

May May but, being gay isnt transgendered, its a sexuality

[@playbuttonreactions7249]

May May transgender isnt a gender its a term for someone who was one gender and became another.

[@gwenpines3526]

4:44 Virgil *knows* that "Patton" is acting a little OOC Edit: 12:33 too, the little eyebrow raise Edit: 22:09 VIRGIL IS SO HAPPY THAT PATTON'S BACK THE LITTLE SMILE AND THEN THE LITTLE SNORT AT 22:27 TOO PRECIOUS

[@Kairochronophobia]

I feel like everytime I watch this, I notice something new. 5:47 Joman (Joan Roman): What the heck did we establish this whole shapshifting thing for if we're never going to use it?? Deceit: **currently using it to disguise as Patton**

[@lavendersmith8584]

BEFORE DECEIT REVEALED HIMSELF AND VIRGIL SAID HE WASN’T SURE IF HE AND “PATTON” WE FRIENDS I WAS READY TO START SOBBING ISTG

[@wrnul3104]

just you wait for potential arcs

[@zelpatia6325]

But then he smiled when patton appeared again sooo...

[@lavendersmith8584]

Alaina Bunn yes thank god he did

[@lace6760]

At that moment, Virgil was aware that Patton was possibly Deceit, so that wasn’t what Virgil really thinks about him, it’s what he thinks about Deceit.

[@chaoticmouseman]

I mean, he knew from the start - early on when Logan was impressed by "Patton" because he referenced philosophers, Virgil said "impressed isn't the word I'd use..."

[@sherricarroll7787]

Dark sides don't rise up, like anxiety and deceit, they just appear. While the others rise up, interestinnnnggg

[@Wrennityy]

* inches towards anxiety*

[@melodyrivas2777]

Accept he does rise up now signailizing TRANSFORMATION

[@rain.plays13]

Yeah, and in the beginning while Deceit is disguised as Patton, he just appears and scares Thomas. The clues were there from the beginning...

[@rachelramone]

Sherri Carroll Virgil doesn’t just appear anymore, sometimes he rises up

[@avery1093]

@@rachelramone I think he only did that once. It was when he excited Patton's room

[@rinthekat4296]

I just had a random thought, like I know this wasn’t the intention and it’s probably just cool character design but still, here: What if every time a side goes against their nature they have a marking that spreads. So like every time Janus tells the truth his scales spread. I imagine that Logan’s would look like a computer motherboard.

[@coyotix]

Ooh. This is actually slightly canon after Flirting With Social Anxiety- notice how every time Virgil is unhappy in the live action bit at the end, his eyeshadow is black, but when he’s happy, it’s purple.

[@orange_juicegxrl1712]

“Before deceit was unmasked like a, FrEaKiNg sCoObY dOO vIlAn.”

[@elenacaplinger780]

the ACTING in this. Thomas had to pretend to be a lying villain pretending to be the sweetest Side and when i rewatch it i can SEE the minuscule differences in how Deceit acts as Patton. so cool

[@anaherceg7697]

I can't believe I didn't realize it on the first watch-through, it is so good!

[@beenheretoolong]

Puts that different light on "oh, good, Logan, everyone's favorite character!"

[@anaherceg7697]

@@beenheretoolong nooo. Don't hurt my heart :(

[@spookyho5994]

I KNOW RIGHT, LIKE DAMN

[@saimaack]

it took me 14 years to realise that people say "break a leg" because they want them to get in the "cast"

[@ochakouraraka3902]

😂 Lmao

[@iridiumSerpent]

Eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[@codyhellweg5630]

What

[@yawn_0_057]

well- thats a cool take on it, but it was just because to say "good luck" was seen as bad luck

[@iridiumSerpent]

@@yawn_0_057 it’s a joke

[@ARutherford1027]

Roman: "That was *acting* in a way! And *that* wasn't so bad!" Me: "In a way? It *WAS* acting." When Thomas asks if there are more sides Roman probably be like Roman inside his head right before they say yes: *"SCREAMING"* Where everyone else can hear it: "The Dark Sides" Me: "WaIt!!!!! Dark SIDES?!?! THERE'S MORE THAN JUST REMUS?!?!"

[@HeatherChandlerBQ]

*hint to orange side? Hope so...*

[@HeatherChandlerBQ]

My previous comment aged like fine wine…

[@ARutherford1027]

@@HeatherChandlerBQ Nice

[@ARutherford1027]

Logan: "And to ease your apparent confusion..." What I heard "To ease your *parent* confusion" 😂

[@AngelMartinez-lm7cu]

Virgil: Nice gloves. Did just finish washing dishes? Deceit: . . . Yes.

[@vale3242]

best. line. ever.

[@aethersaltaccount3551]

He lied.

[@anonytheweirdartist._.8503]

@Magical Wizards world *Nah he did wash dem dishes*

[@urmomsgay1587]

Best thing ever

[@mossolot337]

420th like pal

[@rechisticblu9388]

How to know if he's the real patton 1.He is very giggly 2.Makes a ton of dad jokes 3.Annoys Logan

[@_.tbone._]

4. Only the darksides pop up (including virgil) and all the light sides rise up. At the beginning thomas said "Oh sorry patton I didnt see you rise up there!" Edit: 5. 5:10 says kiddo not friendo Edit: 6. 17:46 "buddy" And finally, at 19:29 janus' music plays

[@leiaustin1948]

@@_.tbone._ 8. When 'Patton' was saying he was confused he didn't have the right background music 9. Virgil's being angsty (more than usual) throughout the entire vid

[@balloonkill3r251]

@@leiaustin1948 10. Patton would never condone lying at all.

[@swordquillinc.5335]

Oo actually near the end when all was said and done he did try to refer to Deceit's example with Kant.

[@missionjei1211]

@@balloonkill3r251 11. Patton would never explain the death of a hamster or any animal with the finger across the neck action. He’d get really awkward and start stuttering while trying explain it.

[@lintofleigh]

it's been five years (FIVEE YEA RS S?) and im still extremely impressed by Thomas' acting in this. the way you can Tell Patton isn't Patton from the very beginning once you watch it for the second time is outstanding. and the details in the editing is SO GOOD. the way "Patton" just Appears instead of rising up is immediately off putting but not obvious. *G OD I MISS THIS SERIES*

[@robin2527]

Little did they know, in this episode they create one of the greatest inside joke/ meme of sanders sides fandom

[@yumisayama4110]

The way that Virgil responded after realizing it was Deceit felt so personal, and the way Deceit was taken aback and surprised by the response. They know each other enough that Deceit thought Virgil would take his side, he thought he knew Virgil. “Virgil, it’s me. Aren’t we friends?” He didn’t claim to be Patton here. He knew Virgil knew who he was.

[@gabrielameo]

Yumi Taisho OHHHHH SNIPPITY SNAP

[@maggiewilliams8444]

YAAAAAASSSSSSS

[@MakoMerman]

HELL TO THE YES!!!

[@Valledorthedragon]

Yumi Taisho oooohhhh I never thought of that- I thought they were just rivals because Virgil’s paranoia would prevent Deceit from doing what he does but... maybe it’s not as simple as that...

[@KoreLikesCorn]

YEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!

[@randomperson7670]

I love all the little details: - the skull on his shirt -the fact he said messenger falcons instead of storks - the fact he suddenly popped up - the fact he started favoritism with logan - the fact he kept on leaning towards lies - the fact that he kept on pushing Roman despite it going against roman's morals -how he laughed at the grandma's death -etc.

[@zimmygirl777]

Everyone knows that babies come from the moon. 😺👻

[@ScoutDolphin]

-Friendo instead of Kiddo

[@catpotato7042]

-Not wearing the cat hoodie Logan gave Patton

[@ohhellofuckoffyoutube]

The fact virgle is being mean to him

[@brotemca8020]

Another thing! He says that Logan's the favourite character. He's lying lololol

[@ARutherford1027]

Thomas: "Oh, hey, Patton..." Janus later reveals that he has Patton

[@sofiaisabel7182]

rewatching this makes it SO OBVIOUS that Patton was not acting like himself at all! How did I not notice the first time?

[@CharleeRed]

right!!

[@miagarcia8004]

I just realized that while they were talking about lying to Joan, Joan was probably right there filming the entire thing.

[@ratburger9473]

They were part of the video so yeh lol

[@annahibbs7280]

yeah lol.

[@addisonm6801]

Well some are fake senarios

[@kaylie8486]

@@addisonm6801 yea like the mary lee and lee's wedding I don't think they are real😂 but are put in

[@gabbyjurado98]

"What boyfriend? How many lies are we telling here?" I love this guy

[@THES0URGUMMY]

Gabby Jurado me this Valentine’s Day 😂

[@sagedavis8044]

Logic: They spent useful waking hours watching and consuming content they have watched 15 and a half times. Me: I mean have you watched the Sander Sides video? Logic: As a matter of fact I have watched it 15 and a half times because I AM A PART OF YOU Me: Oh yeah-

[@vanie_dust7190]

I can relate to this way much

[@Local_idiot13]

"Oh it's everyone's favorite character" Patton saying this while he was deceit makes this line kinda sad-

[@piercedsiren]

Virgil little frown looking away when Roman says "the dark sides" Because he was one of them 😭

[@brycenmayer7686]

*Omg that's so sad* 😢

[@scarlettarana]

..........I have to stop looking at the comments.

[@caoimhesvoice9496]

That made me cry

[@NO1ENAFAN]

@@scarlettarana same 0-o

[@trixiebella-roselestrangle2913]

The thing is in the last video it was revealed that he WAS-

[@savannahwentzel9221]

"I'm a sucker for Joan's pouty face." Their friendship is gold

[@cuzwhynot9082]

My friend and I be like together lol XD

[@nickii5315]

so true XD

[@jaileighwilliams]

Gwenny 1705 same and this is so true

[@just_monika1584]

me and my best guy friend

[@ettarose70]

22:09 when Patton appears you can see virgils little smile and it is the cutest thing

[@sierra_aura5943]

I JUST REALIZED JANUS JUST APPEARS INSTEAD OF RISING UP LIKE VIRGIL DOES AND THEY BOTH USED TO BE DARK SIDES

[@alainaleone5120]

I just realized..... When Janus was revealed, he WASNT LOOKING AT THOMAS. He was looking RIGHT AT VIRGIL. HOW DID I NOT NOTICE THIS BEFORE!?!?

[@ZaneEnthusiast]

He was most likely like: why’d you leave us for these losers?

[@beeez2127]

Time stamp?

[@will_shakespeare]

@@beeez2127 19:40 !

[@dummkopf7981]

@@ZaneEnthusiast I imagine it more like a "remember us?" Moment but valid point

[@Maya-qs6nv]

0:25 as well

[@cosmic.c]

Anxiety is actually what it’s like being backstage

[@lola_bunny3931]

Seriously though, being backstage is so stressful

[@jas7949]

So true

[@cosmic.c]

He's seven places at once and is mildly ticked off and under stress

[@cosmic.c]

and the prop area part is one of the most stressful things

[@emmasullivan2274]

Relatable

[@WayCzennie127]

8:02 Thomas - "are you my mummy?" Logan - "Doctor Who reference? Fantastic." The fact that Logan also says a Doctor Who reference by saying "Fantastic", is the cherry on top. That was him responding back to Thomas. 😍😊💙💙😊😍

[@britanimations2002]

8:04 Can't say your British accent is great, but I don't care, great reference. Leave it to the big brained boy to be the Whovian, I know Logan was my favourite

[@hazeleyeddreamer7888]

I love that Virgil is proud of Thomas for fictionally working at Hot Topic...And also probably for making Roman mad.

[@logicallyblue3814]

When I saw the bit about hot topic merch I immediately thought of merch about Virgil aka Hot Topic

[@otakuattackcosplays1778]

HazelEyedDreamer I bet Virgil is thinking "I wonder if he can get me a discount..."

[@k_mcfarland375]

No one: Literally no one: Literally absolutely no one at all: Roman: THIS FELLA WAS SO FLIPPIN CUTE!!!

[@robynldlp3943]

Roman is us talking about Thomas

[@deadname6714]

🌈

[@nyx6226]

2:20

[@Ziv_Afton]

HELP I READ THIS JUST AS ROMAN SAID IT IN THE VIDEO OML-

[@bloobeary3028]

Omg my favourite parts 1: Virgil: nice gloves did you finish washing dishes? Deciet: ...yes- 2: *Patton rises* Thomas: PATTON!! Virgil: *smiles* Patton: *giggles* uhm..your in my spot- and when he said hey when he came and then when he said bye was adorable when he said a joke and Virgil laughed omg I'm ded edit: Thomas: speaking of knowledge WHERE IS PATTON?! Roman: HOW DARE YOU STAND WHERE HE STOOD edit: Patton: Virgil..it's me..aren't we friends? That hurt me UnU

[@saguarovoiceschoir6031]

Deceit: "Wow I'm so proud of you Thomas. Your so mature. " Deceit: "Oooh I don't know either Thomas you might not like what you find" Logan: "DECEIT Deceit: " who's she? Never heard of her" My favorite part timestamp 18:57 - 19:48

[@ginger9759]

Thomas: are there other sides Deceit is keeping from me? Me, literally in my process of making a Duke cosplay: * maniacally laughing*

[@Enderr_Mann]

Haha XD

[@creativejuice963]

Ohhhhh, I want to see it! I have a Logan cosplay, but it’s pretty simple.

[@eloisethorne6472]

Ginger i knew people went back to watch this thing all over again

[@Desi-xn4xu]

Lmaooooo

[@circusclown1503]

Wait. Virgil has to be the “Dark Side” of Logan-

[@CloudyIssues]

Joan: *”I just hope you didn’t do that thing that you do sometimes where you freak out and stand in the middle of your living room and talk to yourself for twenty minutes”* Me: oh no I think they’re getting on to us

[@zimmygirl777]

Your cover's blown. They found out.😹👻

[@zimmygirl777]

@Kiowa Smothergill They _know._ Get the amnesia ray. Are amnesia rays a thing or just something in Rick and Morty or Futurama? I think they used one in an episode of Rick and Morty. You fire a beam at someone and they forget stuff.😺👻

[@KingFlame-dh8rs]

zimmygirl777 AMNESIAINATOR!

[@zimmygirl777]

@@KingFlame-dh8rs Yeah. One of those.😺👻

[@onyx7332]

@@zimmygirl777 the memory gun from gravity falls

[@-_melloh.ello_-3650]

"Yeah, everyone knows where babies come from... *messenger fountains* " Okay, but the face he mad when he said that was so. Fricking. Cute🥺 ncmksxhjsndjdn

[@whenitgrowsbright]

Falcons

[@elenapet6446]

Virgil: “It was on the prop table, did you move it?!” Roman: “No, I didn’t move it! I have been acting this whole time, when would I have had time to move it?!” Virgil: “It was in the green room, what was it doing in there?!” Roman: “Oh, that’s right, I did move it” This is too real

True true

[@wellmart2870]

Yeah. Lol

[@ketchupman.]

Like an old married couple

[@wellmart2870]

@@ketchupman. omg that's so sweet

[@rachellohse6759]

This is me Where is my phone? It was on the table did you move it My brother: I don’t know what you did with your phone It was in your room whaat was it doing in there My brother': oh yeah I did move it and play games Phone ended up dead just before we needed to leave for a trip