Can MF Ghost Live Up to Initial D's Legacy?

[@Safan118]

I made a video on Wangan Midnight, a highway racing anime that's actually very good . Check it out : kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaeYeI13ebWsoc0

[@doppelkupplungsgetriebe]

what we need is a prequel of initial d that focuses on bunta

[@ahhacar]

That would be cool as hell

[@K0Y0I_sis]

yeah, about time people hype up those "actual" car body shell on ladder frame truck again. A prequel where every hashiriya drives a variant of "AE86".

[@workdesu]

that's a fine idea. i'm also interested what is Bunta's choice of cars. considering he raced the touge in his younger days, that could be like late 70-80's. i'm thinking abt something like toyota starlet, celicas or myb nissan's hakosuka?

[@jacquescrusan9500]

Hate to sound like a broken record, but 'Dreaming of Akina's been out for more than a few years at this point, if you're willing to read. If not, then I can't agree with you more.

[@genericexcuse4737]

@@jacquescrusan9500Dreamin of Akina was a genuinely good read, it’s not perfect, but is surprisingly well done.

[@bored9145]

The big difference is you can watch initial d in public but not mfg because of the “angels”

[@RezboaDog]

So real. The angels are so cringe to me.

[@donnycorn3086]

Funny thing is if initial d adapt literally everything from the manga accurately you wouldn't watch it outside as well. It's the anime that made initial d what it is today.

[@raifurunanodesu9003]

What is worse is that if you compare it to most race queen outfits, you can see that even the actual race queen outfit is less revealing than the Angels outfit. Heck, at least if it's something like Azur Lane's race queen outfits, I can expect that because Azur Lane is one of those balls on the wall fanservice heavy game. MF Ghost's Angels just exist for the sake of having any kind of fanservice and not even as good as Mako's shower scene in Special Stage or any of the swimsuit scenes in Initial D

[@KidMangaX]

Imagine thinking that the angels are NSFW. Do you work for the Vatican???

[@donnycorn3086]

@@KidMangaX the angels are sexualized both in the anime and the manga, and there's a dude in the story who's into 17 year old girls. Seeing the angels in MFG makes me uncomfortable, not because they're attractive, but the media trying to make them attractive by pointing at their sensitive spots.

[@meijuta]

All i want from MF ghost is ONE scene where takumi pulls up with an AE86 and blitzes the fastest antagonist. It would be so hype

[@Slowbaru89]

The AE86 trueno is already dead sitting beside the tofu shop

[@meijuta]

@@Slowbaru89 any AE86 hatchback panda trueno

[@neno2754]

Which would either be the cayman or alpina and eith AE86 horsepower compared to those two cars i can say it aint happening

[@Slowbaru89]

@@neno2754 yeah it is so unrealistic I would like it if takumi uses a gr86 or newer WRX STI

[@meijuta]

@@neno2754 Its anime, anything can happen

[@Mx64MaxyImpress]

For Me, it was worthy as succesor to the series, if only Shigeno reduced his desire of underage fanservice that would made me more enjoy this series, apart from it I'm enjoying action of Kanata and can't wait for 2nd Season

[@misterpervysage476]

Its not him. Its pretty much a good chunk of japanese anime

[@Byte_frst7]

he's probably forced by the publisher or editor to add them to be able for his work to get published

[@misterpervysage476]

@@Byte_frst7 nah he himself likes it

[@LanEvoSimp]

luckily for you mf ghost is getting a season 2 in october 6

[@Mx64MaxyImpress]

@@LanEvoSimp lol, I literally one of top comments when that trailer drop days ago

[@ieurobeatkids9378]

Tsuchiya never worked on the manga directly. His main job was working with the animation team, making sure the drifting was represented properly. And he stopped working on it after 4th stage. And it really shows, as the 5th stage section in both the manga and anime is shockingly bad. Also, Kanata drove in f3, that's where Sawatari knows him from. He was a prodigy there too, but not champion before he left to take care of his mom before her passing.

[@ulisesavila2879]

The quality of the 4th stage is where everything starts to fall apart. We treat each oponent in the same way, team goes, practice, the majority of oponents are pricks, race starts, ryosuke explains the plot armor of the race, both keisuke and takumi wins.

[@Angrynood]

​@@ulisesavila2879 I'm of the opinion that the story peaked in Third Stage and the racing peaked in Fourth Stage.

[@Fjdjfjsz92938]

I’m watching initial d for the first and just reached fourth stage, It definitely felt different from the first 3 so this makes sense

[@cryo2156]

MF Ghost makes Wangan Midnight's characters and story seem fleshed out and interesting by comparison, enough said. Also the main race takes 3 entire episodes.

[@ITSMRFOXY]

Really? I heard wangan had a very boring protagonist, but is everyone else just as boring or worse?

[@BlueminNight]

@@ITSMRFOXY I would say it's due to how many things are cut in the anime compared to the manga. While Akio is kind of boring, it is a deliberate writing choice to highlight other characters that want to chase the Devil Z

[@neno2754]

Yea but like initial d mf g takes a look at multiple races with 40km 2 lap race and initial d looks into 2 racers who are going downhill a touge road which should take 5 minutes and is put into 2 episodes so yea

[@Xiaolong10]

​@@ITSMRFOXYwangan is actually pretty alright it isnt as good as initial d is just not as good and different type of racing so initial d fans dont rlly like it since wangan is highway racing and initial d is togue racing

[@SomeHockeyPlayer]

In huge races with multiple racers, small battles take place

[@thekreativeculture9642]

A back story on Bunta would’ve been so fire. In stage 1 episode 23, when Keiichi calls Bunta over the phone , we get a peak into the professional side of racing Bunta was once involved in. A prequel focusing on how Bunta got into Group A racing, how he did against Touge downhill racers in his day, and the relationship with his father would be a solid story. And if they can revert back to the OG animation from stage 1, *chefs kiss.

[@LeeONardo]

Bunta is one of those characters that works better in the mystery, this dude is just THAT good and it leaves people wondering. The fact then that you get these wonderful little teases of him coming back and smokin' Takumi on the streets was hype. Although I wouldn't object to a bit more on Bunta, it should just be a single OVA/special episode to just fill a gap in or two, giving people a bit of info while still leaving you wanting more.

[@GregoryGreg87]

I'm with ya @thekreativeculture9642 although I could go either way with the animation. I'm okay with the animation of MFG, but I wouldn't be upset if they reverted to Initial D style.

[@killersentra]

They ain't thinking they lost their groove.

[@SMOKEY_HATES_TAXES]

the angels in MF Ghost are so unnecessary, literally watched initial D with the fam but had to watch this alone

[@syahmi6026]

agree.. my mother used to watch initial D (live action). She liked it so much that she kept watching it again and again. So i tot it would be a good idea to watch mfg with her sometimes. But when i see the angels, well nvm.

[@thisagame5847]

Initial D had those fan service scenes in the extra stage episodes.

[@lordfrz9339]

You forget that the main guys GF was an underage prostitute?

[@Leotheleprachaun]

Imagine forgetting all the horny shit in initial D. Shower scene, close ups of EVERY female's breasts/legs/butts/armpits(yes even pits), schoolgirl characters having their panties peeped at, THE GROOMING.

[@2022HennesseyVenomF5Coupe]

Small correction: The Lotus Siblings are actually called the Yajikita Siblings, and both of them don't drive Lotuses. Kakeru is the one with the white Lotus Exige, and Nozomi, the girl, is the one with the red Alfa Romeo 4C.

[@Safan118]

Yeah that's my bad. Idk why I said Lotus emeya in the video lol, I recorded this right before bed so I was probably sleepy

[@2022HennesseyVenomF5Coupe]

@@Safan118 Understandable, have a nice day.

[@gonnaleaveamark]

@@Safan118 The older brother swapped to an Emira in the final race of the season (In the Manga). TBH, it's pointless. The Exige 360 has a slightly higher top speed (172 compared to Emira's 171), considerably lower weight (1138KG VS 1446KG), and a quicker 0-60 time (4.0 sec vs 4.4 sec). *Edit: Sorry, the Emira weight 1446, not 1400.

[@SurePea_archive]

Us initial d fans deserve better!!

[@Safan118]

Soo true mr trueno

[@matthewnuzum7909]

I want it better too please

[@matthewnuzum7909]

Man I want Takumi to kick butt

[@PESYMISTA86]

@@matthewnuzum7909 in that anime he will prabobly kick the only thing.... THE BUCKET this is literaly INSULT to the series

[@Outshinedsg]

I think it's pretty much impossible for MF Ghost to live up to Initial D's legacy, because Initial D is so important to the development of Japanese car culture, Eurobeat, and the history of anime in general. It won't be able to break new ground because it is just building on the cultural foundation that Initial D already established. That said, MF Ghost is great because it proves that the formula still works. We have a new generation of drivers, modern technology, and modern cars, but the excitement of high level driving is still there. It is appealing for all the same reasons as Initial D, and has all the same storytelling weaknesses, too. In that aspect, I think MF Ghost succeeds because it updates the appeal of Initial D for a new generation. In a weird way, it is a very-near-future Sci Fi where AI is being used more to help broadcast races and track driver performance more than in real life. And it is really damn cool to see a new racing anime with modern vehicles. I got hyped when the new opening played with Jungle Fire and it felt like a worthy homage to some classic Eurobeat moments. When watching MF Ghost, the thing that disappointed me the most was the level of fanservice for underaged characters in the new series. There is a bit too much focus on it to the point where it made me uncomfortable at points. It's been a long time, but I don't remember Initial D having this much fan service, or sexualizing its female characters to this extent. In MF Ghost it is to the point where it distracts from the story and I could see it being offputting for car nerds who just want to watch the show to enjoy the racing and car mechanical aspects. Like for Initial D, I feel like I could sit down and watch it with anyone, but with MF Ghost, I would not be able to make the same unconditional recommendation because I would be embarrassed to watch it with a female friend. It would be a lot easier for me to recommend MF Ghost if it just focused on being a great slice of life show about adjusting to life in Japan and being a pro race driver, and cut out the fanservice parts.

[@kenolful]

MFG still give me goosebumps everytime kanata shows off his "takumi side".

[@redcomn]

I know old ass 90s JDM car thanks to this anime. If not all I’ll drive is a Prius

[@artidox__]

I don’t view MFG as a more direct sequel, but rather a spiritual successor. Also the controversy when the show released around how tires work in MFG (particularly tire deg) was fucking hilarious and really showed just how many people in the community know NOTHING about how racing slicks work.

[@Powdercoreyguy]

I mean i do wonder how do racing slicks work

[@artidox__]

@@Powdercoreyguy As in, how they degrade so quickly or do you mean how they're able to provide more grip than grooved tires?

[@Powdercoreyguy]

@@artidox__ Both

[@Powdercoreyguy]

@@artidox__ because dang i guess they don’t know what they are thinking while making mf ghost

[@artidox__]

@@Powdercoreyguy Racing slicks degrade quicker than grooved street tires becuase they're operating at very high temperatures under very high loads and the grip wearing down is the outer layers of rubber wearing off and coming off of the tires, laying into the track. As rubber lays into asphalt, it provides more grip because rubber grips rubber better than it grips asphalt (unless it's rainy, in which case this is now reversed). This is why on many race tracks, you can see a black line that basically outlines your racing line: that's where all the rubber is laid down.

[@koop2014]

Ir's sad how most of these compalints can be answered if you looked into the manga and realized "".. oh this was literally in the MF manga"

[@ieurobeatkids9378]

That doesn't really make it better. If anything, the anime is a significant improvement on the Manga.

[@alieffauzanrizky7202]

Yeah, the manga itself is mid. That's what you're looking for.

[@donnycorn3086]

​@@ieurobeatkids9378not to the scale of initial d adaptation tho. One improvises the entire series with spirit and soul, the other merely makes the characters move. In fact, you can compare the gas-drinking skit from the initial d manga to anime. You'll see what I mean.

[@ieurobeatkids9378]

@donnycorn3086 I never compared it do initial d. Improvising only works when you have the time to do it, while still staying faithful to the source material. The race itself took up like 1/3rd of the season, the romance too up another 1/3rd. Not much space left to do Improvising. The main ways the Anime improves is Character design and action. The characters in the Manga look like blob-fish, and the overtakes have 0 feeling. The pacing is also slightly better in the anime, but they couldn't really do much, and it just gets worse as the story continues.

[@neemojenkins881]

Now i want both Over Rev and My Favorite Carrera got an anime adaptation

[@JoseGonzalez-xd7gm]

You are cooking my favorite carrera could go crazy, also now that we goin for the underdogs what about a remake of ex driver

[@Angrynood]

Dammnnn, someone remembers Over Rev! Just having an adaptation would be nice.

[@neemojenkins881]

@@Angrynood the lastest chapter i read was Ch.267 and i'm glad it still continue the translation

[@sahkogile]

SS and Donten Prism Solar Car is good too

[@cloud-reaper1152]

I don't care what any one says I'm enjoying it, it has its ups and down like all anime

[@INFERNUM95]

W. This anime is hated for no reason

[@maurizza3499]

Me too, each episode feels so short even though it's 24 minutes 😅

[@maurizza3499]

Me too, i enjoy every second of each episode

[@akinahara]

id love to see a car anime/manga where the MC starts from the bottom and grows to the top. Not like takumi, atleast a different concept of starting from the bottom if you get what i mean

[@michaelskoomamacher5652]

try Over-Rev! It is much better than Initial D in literally every single category (better artstyle IMO, better story overall, more diverse and fleshed out characters, more varied racing, and more varied cars from Civic to Camaro, and better fanservices).

[@ihavewaited90daystochangem51]

​@@michaelskoomamacher5652 Lost me at fanservice. Don't need that bullshit.

[@MGdrifts]

correction: it is actually grip to weight ratio the heavier the cars the thicker the tyres and vise versa

[@Chr.Monika6469]

Which makes no sense from a logical point of view

[@MGdrifts]

@@Chr.Monika6469 it does. It would explain why is a mere gt86 able to compete. They had to do some weird regulation to make the plot armor believable

[@InfinitySevens]

And yet like no regulations on downforce or other aerodynamics as far as I'm concerned.

[@MGdrifts]

@@InfinitySevens the cars will get pretty crazy in future seasons lol

[@InfinitySevens]

@@MGdrifts On paper I think a Corvette ZR1 C7 would be very privy to abuse regulations with.

[@ProfessionalWindowLicker]

Someone said everything is a hit or miss until past chapter 90, which is 🔥 Completely agreed

[@GetKona]

Here are some facts about this: Shuichi Shigeno, the author, didn’t want to draw racing manga anymore; he only started writing it as a way to make a living. Previously, he worked on other genres, as Sailor Ace, but it didn’t receive the response he hoped for. After that, his wife passed away, which left him without the motivation to do much. However, he still needed to earn a living, so he created MF Ghost . If you notice the square-eyed characters in the manga, don’t be surprised-he really had no enthusiasm for drawing, so that’s how it ended up like that.

[@flowixx8550]

Yeah, somehow it's noticeable that shigeno "forcefully" made mf ghost. Initial d was an anime made with much thought.

[@TSUG0MU]

I see. I got enraged on how bad is the human characters were drawn, not to mention the background, only photograph and manga filter, done.

[@Keryaken133]

Personally, i like mf ghost, people tends to expect sequel to be directly connected to the first series which is true most of the time, but sometimes by not being connected to the old series, the creater can add new ideas without being affected by the previous lore and i just think mf ghost lore is perfect, it is literally what will happen to us, electric cars are dominating and gas engine are slowly disapearing, and by using a lowly basic car to compete with absolute high end vehicles around the world, its makes the 86 more respectful in that context in my opinion.

[@Wildchildinc]

Overtake was more captivating and fresh with well developed characters in a relatable narrative.

[@javianbrown8627]

Darn I need to finish it. Was waiting for the episodes to fully come out and forgot

[@philipbarton3456]

@@javianbrown8627I will say two words. DO IT. It’s the polar opposite of MFG with much more depth, more accurate racing feel. I like to compare it to saying watching Initial D vs Capeta. Funny thing it’s a similar car racing comparison from the same era with the same problem. Initial D had characters that had issues with being 2 dimensional vs Capetas characters are very well fleshed out, and Initial D focuses on street races vs Capeta also is more pro/formula racing. Same thing happens with overtake vs MFG

[@Angrynood]

Surprised to see someone talk about Overtake. I still need to finish it but it's nice to see that people still know of it.

[@philipbarton3456]

@@Angrynood Sadly it just didn’t get the marketing MFG got. And it shows in the video, how he was like “MFG had no competition” meanwhile Overtake was running exactly at the same time.

[@Angrynood]

​@@philipbarton3456 Initial D really carries the hype for MFG. Unfortunately that's just how it's gonna be, so other racing anime will find it hard to compete.

[@bullymaguire8380]

My Personal review: *visuals & graphics: 8/10 *Story : 2/10 *Character : -10/10 *Races : 4/10 (lacks intensity and build up) *Immersion : 4/10 Verdict : Meh as a anime. Shit as a initial D successor.

[@alundrasrt]

Music, melodies and sound effect2 :2/10, none are epic or are having impact. Engine and tires sounds are decent at least.

[@oldmanhavefun]

They add too much romance, too much chick. So very boring

[@gonnaleaveamark]

​@@oldmanhavefunand the romance plot just.... doesn't go anywhere? If you read the manga, then... you'll know.

[@TheRealEncy]

This Is Why Initial D Is Good Because The Characters There ( Including Takumi ) Always Never Have A Long Lasting Relationship LMAO

[@Chr.Monika6469]

Compared to other animes from today, i would give the visuals a 5 out of 10

[@GhoulCityOnline]

Personally I didn't like it at all lol but I think I've made that clear. I posted a comment on the MFG subreddit the other day where I explained how I would change the series to address what I think the biggest problems are from a story perspective (and I got downvoted lmao) but here's what I would do to make MFG work. The story of MFG just doesn't work because there's not enough room for Kanata to grow as a racer and as a character he's too emotionless and quiet for us to know much about him, but also the search for his dad and why he's even competing in MFG aren't particularly clear at all. There are elements there that could be tweaked to make him searching for his dad more important. Make it so instead of his mother being dead she's still sick so he needs the money from MFG for her treatment. Make him resentful of his dad for running off so he wants to confront him about abandoning his family while his mother is dying. With those changes now we have a strong character motivation, the races actually matter, and Kanata has goals that connect both the races and his personal journey. While we're at it, make Kanata more angry and emotional. We got quiet (though not at all emotionless) with Takumi, so let's have someone more similar to Keisuke as a lead to make it more distinct from ID. I'd also eliminate the "trained by Takumi in a world class racing academy" backstory because it makes him insanely uninteresting because he can just do anything and is capable of everything from the very beginning. Make him a poor kid who learned his skills street racing and is now trying to break into the elite racing class with nothing but raw skill to save his mother's life and he has an extremely hard time keeping up with these high end sports cars. This would also be good because it would feel like us as fans of initial D and street racing are "graduating" to the big leagues, something that was always talked about in Initial D, but with Kanat's family drama and new bolder personality, it also feels a lot more fresh and interesting. At this point you may be saying "this is just a completely different series now" and yeah you're right, because everything I'm changing are elements that make MFG boring. Oh and the angels no longer exist. If they absolutely NEED to exist, Ren is in her 20s now and joined the angels because she loves racing and this was the best way she could think of to be close to the action but ultimately still doesn't like it and Kanata teaches her to drive, she leaves the angels and that's how they fall in love. Also no more qualifying runs. Idk exactly how I'd make that work but ultimately I find qualifying runs really boring and as it is rn they're technically more important than the races themselves, so there should be something else. Maybe he just can pay a fee to enter in so that could add tension that he has to use money he desperately needs for his mother's treatment to gamble himself on a race he has little chance of winning and that can show us how he's fucking insane or something. Which would be endearing and cool when he actually places well. Oh and Sawatari is gone. He doesn't exist anymore.

[@verticalflyingb737]

I have no more hopes for MF Ghost unless they retcon the entire story to be on par with what you suggested rather than just following the original crap story.

[@gonnaleaveamark]

DISCUSSION: -What would happen if one competitor would've brought a Hillclimb spec car? Will it decimate the competition? Examples: -Carlsson Mercedes 'SLK340' Weighting only 790 kilos and producing an impressive 610 HP at 11,300RPM from a Judd 3.4L V8, it is among the fastest hillclimbers in Europe. You can search for more infos about it in the channel 'FIA Hillclimb Masters'. I've had a previous argument in reddit about the use of Shaken regulation (Road legality of cars in Japan), and found no evidence of such thing being said in the manga, wiki, and anime. It only mandates the use of wider or thinner tires (bridgestones), regarding to the 'grip-to-weight ratio' (which tbh, never been implemented to any existing motorsport category). Also, the MFG regulation never explicitly state the use of slick tires, weight reduction, extensive aero parts, pit stops, tire warmers (I assume its legal because we can see it in the OP), etc. The winning driver is also rewarded aproximately 600k USD each race, and it can easily cover your build in a race (or two at most). That leaves you with 3 Million of prize money per season, given your car is reliable to win 5 races. This left so many plotholes.

[@gonnaleaveamark]

I can feel your pain. I got the same treatment there. The Subreddit is just so narrow-minded. Honestly, one of my worst experience on Reddit. Plus, the story is mediocre at best, and that's me being generous. No development on every characters, nobody treat the championships as the real deal. It'll be great if there's stake in line, and characters too root for. Good to know that I'm not alone on this.

[@Angrynood]

I'll be honest, I kept up with the manga until it was announced that it was becoming an anime. I already knew it was gonna suck and I tried to let people know to not get their hopes up, but people ended up disappointed anyways. Gotta give credit to the marketing team though. They appealed to the fanbase's nostalgia and sold them on the idea it was gonna be good. Anyways, I'm just disappointed that this is the legacy of Initial D. It could've been a lot better.

[@SkyLineNFS_TTV]

Honestly i agree with the angels part but I don't like how generic that potential back story is as those plot points have been done for years like in speedracer (There was a entire race based around a guy to win for his wifes cancer treatment) and Overtake which was a anime that came out around the same time a MFG was based on someone struggling in F3 partly due to a lack in money for the car. Don't get me wrong as this is common for a reason but I feel they don't particularly fit what MFG needs to improve.

[@Dad2Kids]

I dont care if its worse or better. I just love racing and can enjoy it with different ways.

[@Erickwilliamlee]

Unworthy. It relies too much on nostalgia and Initial D without having much substance to stand on its own two feet. It's dissapointing but at least we get eurobeat, I suppose? We should have gotten that Rally sequel that was in the works.

[@listenhereyoulittleshit389]

I think they use rock covers of some eurobeat songs used in initial d, or at least thats what i heard in a clip of a race from the series. Also, i still want the race between takumi and keisuke

[@Angrynood]

Huh, I've never heard of the Rally sequel rumors. Was that gonna be about Takumi and his adventure into WRC?

[@Erickwilliamlee]

@@Angrynood pretty much.

[@Angrynood]

@@Erickwilliamlee Hmm, interesting. I'd have to agree with you. It would've been more engaging if we had a more natural progression of time.

[@SONICX1027]

I highly recommend another Racing Anime in the 90s called Future GPX Cyber Formula. You won’t be disappointed

[@smipy]

Some scenes I expect from MF Ghost- 1. Keisuke taking his FD again to make new records for the course which were broken by Porsche Cayman 2. Keisuke and Kyoko together and Mako and Iketani too 3. Takumi vs Kanata with their AE86 and GT86 on Akina 4. And the antagonist getting humbled by Ryouske in his FC

[@ieurobeatkids9378]

1. The public records aren't his true times. He wasn't pushing to the fullest, said it himself during race 5. He will be setting new times and actually trying for the next season. 2. Keisuke isn't married to Kyoko, but it's going to be someone "Surpsrsing" according to Shigeno. Iketani is still single and still working at the Gas station. Absolute bum. 3. The 86 was sent to the scrapyard, to idk how that would work. 4. Ryosuke has been retired since before project d, and is a doctor full time. Why would he be racing. What you're asking for is just Initial D 2. That's not what MF Ghost is. For better or for worse.

[@smipy]

@@ieurobeatkids9378 I read somewhere that AE86 was did send to scrapyard but some other kid from Akina bought it and swapped the engine. And used it for some time for racing and drifting and then only it was scrapped. I know race against the Grim Reaper R32 was Ryouske's last race but it wouldn't be bad to humble a cocky white ass bit(h and get some nostalgia at the same time. How the hell just these 4 requests gonna make a new series? All I'm asking for is some cherries. And BTW this season of MF Ghost wasn't good anyway. They stretched a 2 lap race a whole season. There were annoying _angels_ and flashbacks ruining the intense mood of the race. And Kanata had no character development by the end of the season. Only race scenes, cars and technical info was great.

[@jrbudoybudoy]

@@ieurobeatkids9378 Ryosuke can race on his spare time. A full time doctor but the creator of MFG means he has a lot of free time to be able to pull that kind of stuff.

[@ieurobeatkids9378]

@jrbudoybudoy Not really. He's never actively involved in MFG due to his main job. There's a reason he makes Keisuke and Fumihiro take care of all if MFG's operations. He was literally in the middle of a surgery when qualifying was happening lol.

[@jorgeperez7824]

@@ieurobeatkids9378when was the 86 taken to a scrap yard ion rem that

[@commonskoomaenjoyer]

People complaining about angels clearly know nothing about car culture in Japan. They're essentially the same thing as ring girls in boxing and mma. It's just more traditional over there because motorsports are more popular

[@jaym2267]

The issue isn't really about the angel's existence and even their attire. It's more about we lose 3-5 minutes of what couldve been actual racing plot just to have meaningless underwear fixing and question that doesn't do anything. Those scenes could be used more for Ren's plot but it only is 1/3 of the time, rest is filler.

[@Miatr101]

I like Kouki, but not as a character. He's quite the bad-ass driver (as Season 2 will show) and that's enough to turn the "i only date 17 year olds" into a void. Btw i liked how you didn't say the cookie cutter "shitbox 86 running down Lambos and Ferraris" line, because that didn't happen(in the first race).

[@Safan118]

Kouki is indeed fast but there was no reason to make him a creep

[@Miatr101]

@@Safan118 fr😭

[@miragebangbravern]

​@@Safan118 The anime/manga's purpose is to show that he is a creep although it is kinda null given the fanservice

[@nukewolf97]

I like Kanata, I just feel like we'll get a better feel for him as we go on

[@zepuff_8108]

having watched inital D in its entirety several times, I have enjoyed mf ghost s1 a lot

[@uncle_shrek.]

We were supposed to get a sequel about rally but the old man couldn't hold his desires with underaged girls and panties. But still the show has some potential, if we ignore the fan service and look at basckstories of og charecters and animation

[@PerishSong_ow]

I hope once the show continues they spend some more time developing the characters

[@redcrafterlppa303]

And catch up with the tie in of the old characters with the new. I think the start lost a lot of traction by making the old main characters mysterious and scarce. If the show started with an ae86 drifting around corners at the end revealing takumi in the passenger seat and the new main driving would have been a much better kickoff compared to whatever this was.

[@handlebar4520]

the character development in question: liking 17y/os

[@PerishSong_ow]

@@handlebar4520 so true

[@Pokerface-tr1ds]

I love both Initial D and MF Ghost! Season 2 of MF Ghost is out now and I am waiting for Episode 5

[@JensTX]

I persnoally think the main reaosn for there not being as many car manga/anime out there is simply because Initial D set the bar *extremely high* for an anime. doesn't matter when or who, if your anime or manga is set around cars, you bet it's going to be compared to Initial D.

[@kulikevl5312]

Its already doing well imo, i can't wait for more.

[@lordfrz9339]

MF ghost is too clean and proffesional. It doesn't have the same feel of being something you could actually go do like initial D had.

[@jaym2267]

Nah, initial D just had actual character/plot development. MF Ghost is more of us just finding out what other tricks Kanata can do at the most convenient times rather than seeing him learn.

[@handlebar4520]

basically if initial D was formula 1

[@yoanfernanda]

What I still can't get over with is during the race is the goofy headset that each racer should wear. I mean you could make it look simplistic like TWS and wouldn't make you look like a customer service staff

[@MokaBeats664]

8:41 The way you pronounced Sawatari was funny, dude 😅😄😄

[@DaniG._.German]

11:41 alright then, keep your secrets.

[@FlameWheelYT]

10:20 that's the important part on watching any kind of content, just enjoy it😤

[@brycethompson1330]

I love the anime so far I just hope they keep it up

[@andre51605]

no one here seems to have pointed it out but Kanata is the given name, Livington and Katagiri are the surnames he used, unless there's a joke that's gone over my head

[@shaungratton]

This show got me to check out Initial D and its been fun.

[@railwaystuff]

I wouldn't call it a Initial D 'successor', more like some weird ass race Anime with a bit of Eurobeat in the back

[@WhatAreColors]

omg there it is, my Civic Type R!! who could see his own car?

[@DanielDaAbadSukarno]

Bro my favorite character is the commentator they make this anime 110 better!

[@Andernol]

I had a hard time not watching Initial D. Every episode I was hyped for the next one, excited to see what would happen, even if it was just the lame standing around and talking. In contrast, I had a hard time wanting to continue MF Ghost. I stopped at episode 3 and forgot about it for like 3 months before I went back to it.

[@スーパーマーク]

The one who needs a revamp or sequel is ' Capeta '

[@EGS3586]

a really good racing anime everyone should watch is bari bari densetsu. it's super short (like 2 episodes) but its super good

[@Yubari_Dreams]

0:32 Drifting anime? Did you really watch all the other stages?

[@wildannandawicaksana5004]

Cant wait to see season 2 on 6th October

[@sempio6378]

I mean i don't think so in my opinion Since everything in Initial D was just so good and the scenes are all iconic because of the Eurobeat songs whenever something crazy is about to happen

[@joshclint2259]

Correction. His name was Kanata Katagiri or Kanata Rivington. It's just on the sub that the last name became the first name as per how japanese address one another

[@filip-pz2dx]

The creator of initial d said that if he ever made initial d 2 he would make it about takumis rally carrier and i find it so fucking cool

[@shira_yone]

And he didn't do that, so what's cool about it?

[@Playerson_EZ]

I wish Takumi was still here 😭 He always in my heart

[@earlgumban]

He is not dead he is living somewhere in the UK with his wife Mika.

[@redcrafterlppa303]

​​@@earlgumban yeah but this really misses the opportunity for fans to connect to the new. For a good sequel the main characters need to backseat. But the way it's done here reminds me of yashahime the sequel to inuyasha. The author forced themselves to come up with a story why the old main is backseating. It doesn't feel like he wanted the story this way which lead to bland characters and an unsatisfying brake with the original. In my opinion a good sequel could have most main characters from the original visible in the first few episodes. They are aged and aren't in the center of attention. Maybe they are the parents of the new main characters maybe not. But they should play an active support role like a team for the new main characters. This would be a good setting to naturally include flash backs to further tie the fans back in. Maybe the old main characters scattered after the original end and are gathered unknowingly by the new main characters creating a sense of nostalgia most fans would feel along with as there is a lot of time between the 2 shows. I think with something along these lines and a heavier focus on eurobeat mfg would have had the potential to bridge the decade long gap. This half assed story with uninspiring secrecy about the old mains which feels like it's written to make the old fans cut ties with the old characters and focus on the new is just not how you successfully make a sequel.

[@earlgumban]

@@redcrafterlppa303 Spoiler maybe: in the later part of the series he'll probably make a cameo appearance Ryosuke and Mika already make an appearance in one of the latest manga chapters.

[@KARR]

I will say Its cool they made anime with cars in it. The futurism perspective on EV takeover will be our reality in time. I really liked wangan midnight myself. The story was so good. I would say I even liked it more than initial D.

[@the_tourist9429]

Iirc the anime correctly you are wrong regarding the grip to power ratio in MFG, it is grip to weight ratio. The heavier the car the broader the tires can be. Otherwise it would make more sense to have small cars with highly tuned engines that have tons of power outpout instead of heavier cars like an Lamborghini, or Nissan GTR, which are quite heavy compared to the Alpine 110 or Lotus.

[@InfinitySevens]

Okay but wouldn't adding more downforce also mean adding more weight? You can get the benefit of increased tire grip and aerodynamic grip (the only real disadvantage would likely be increased drag). Plus handicaps aren't as levied on FR-layout cars, so I can imagine something like a C7 Corvette ZR1 could be poised as the best contender to abuse this (on top of having absurd power from factory).

[@djdrago9712]

I love this show. It's just fun and i watched this first before initial d

[@mikagamihara]

you WHAT!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!

[@djdrago9712]

@@mikagamihara hey mf ghost gave me the motivation to watch initial d

[@fairplaygaming4725]

👀

[@djdrago9712]

@@fairplaygaming4725 what?

[@bullymaguire8380]

@@djdrago9712 Go watch initial d its much better than this shit.

[@xx_nerman_xx]

they better cook next season, i mean a whole ass buffet

[@christopherbassit2757]

2:07 das my whip

[@handlebar4520]

why'd you burn the clutch out on your mom's whip bruh?

[@Leotheleprachaun]

I can just imagine the horror you will go through when you find out aboot R16 content from Japan if you got your panties in a wad over the Angels.

[@Chr.Monika6469]

Answering the title: no it can't

[@gonnaleaveamark]

Never heard of such measurement being taken to any form of Motorsport regulations. Power-to-weight, yes. But weight-to-grip? Simply changing tire dimensions doesn't ensure fair competition due to several reasons: Power Delivery More power needs more grip to be usable. Mismatching tire width to power can lead to excessive wheel spin or underutilization of available power. Handling Characteristics Larger tires can improve grip but might affect the steering response and overall agility. Also, they increase mass and rotational inertia. Safety and Reliability Over or under-sizing tires for a car's weight and power can lead to increased wear, potential failure, and able to affect braking and handling. Let's see what the MFG competitors are running and compare this to Nurburgring laptimes, which have similar characteristics to most courses in MFG. Tight and long corners, straights) : Ishigami - 991.1 GT3 Clubsport (Pre Facelift): 475 hp, RWD *7 min 32 sec* Akaba - 488 GTB: 660 hp, RWD. *7 min 21 sec* Oishi - Huracan LP610-4: 610 hp, AWD *7 min 28 sec* Aiba - R35 Nismo (Anime S1) (2017): 592 hp, AWD *7 min 36 sec* (Road Legal) *7 Min 8 sec* (N-Attack Package (Not Street Legal)) Hanninen - LC500: 471 hp, RWD. *NO DATA. Won 2018 24 Hours of Nurburgring SP-PRO class. * Greene (Manga) - V8 Vantage: 503 hp in newer models, RWD *7 Min 43 Sec* Beckenbauer (Manga) - 718 Cayman GT4: 493 hp, RWD *7 Min 42 sec* Moroboshi (Manga) BLITZ GR Supra: SZ-R (Anime): 258 hp (B48 2.0L I4 ), RWD RZ (Manga): 382 hp (B58 3.0L I6), RWD *7 Min 52 sec (RZ)* I'll be generous that the brake upgrade and aero kit went well, so I'll deduct 5-10 seconds from the run. *Between 7 Min 47 sec to 7 Min 42 sec* Yanagida (Manga) - M4 DTM Championship Edition: 493 hp, RWD *7 Min 28 Sec* (Pistonheads.com) Sawatari (Manga) - A110R: 296 hp, RWD *7 Min 35 sec* Sakamoto (Anime S1) - R8 V10 Plus: 610 hp, AWD *7 Min 32 sec* Ohtani (Manga) - AMG GT R: 577 hp, RWD *7 Min 11 sec* Taylor - 991.1 Carrera GTS: 450 hp, RWD (4S is AWD) *7 min 24 sec* (991.2 PDK.) Kitahara - Alfa 4C Competizione: 237 hp, RWD *8 min 4 sec* Yashio (Anime S1) - Exige S 360 Cup: 355 hp, RWD. *7 min 48 sec (Cup 380)* Maezono - (Anime S1) Civic Type R (FK8): 306 hp, FWD. *7 Min 44 sec (Honda weight reduction test)* *8 Min 1 sec (Sport Auto test)* Katagiri (Manga Final Spec) ZN6 GT86: 296HP,RWD with various modification mostly towards balance and gear ratio. From the wiki: Engine Overhaul (Rebalancing and High Load Parts) (300PS/296HP) BLITZ TURBO SYSTEM with B06-380R Turbo Nardi Deep Corn Sport Rally Steering Wheel BLITZ BIG CALIPER KIT II Brakes BLITZ DAMPER ZZ-R Coilover Kit BLITZ NUR-SPEC StyleD Exhaust System BLITZ Suction Kit Intake and Carbon Power Air Cleaner BLITZ Thro Con Throttle Controller[14] Enkei PF-05 Wheels (Dark Silver) BLITZ Stickers on Front Fenders BLITZ Racing Meter Panel (Oil Pressure, Water Temperature, Turbo Boost) Custom OEM Style Carbon Fiber Hood BLITZ DAMPER ZZ-R SpecDSC PLUS ZN6/ZC6 86/BRZ Active Suspension (Damping force 16 (front), 20 (back)) TRD Toyota 86 14R Limited Edition Aero Kit (Front Bumper, Front Fender, Side Skirt, Rear Bumper, Rear Diffuser, Center-Exit Exhaust, 18’ Magnesium Ultralight Wheels) Stock Carbon Filter Roof TOM’S V1 LED Tail Lights TRD Monoblock Big Brake Kit Closer Gear Ratios with a Shorter Final Drive *Stock 8 Min 45 sec* *Let's say Upgraded ver. might cut down it between the lower 8 seconds. (Anime MC momento)* *Keep in mind that series like DTM is only separated by average of 1,5 seconds in terms of qualifying. Running multiple laps in a track twice as long as the Nordschleife will put a significant gap between each cars.) (www.dtm.com/en/results) There's a method of achieving balance in motorsport, called BoP (Balance of Performance). Let's say, in context of GT3, if a specific vehicle have a competitive edge over the other, they would add weight, limit engine power, adjust the tires (but to a certain degree) and regulate aerodynamics to ensure a more competitive field. For example: Audi R8 LMS GT3 Engine: 5.2L V10 naturally aspirated Power Output: Approximately 500-580 hp (varies due to BoP) Weight: Minimum weight around 1225 kg (subject to BoP adjustments) Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive 2. Mercedes-AMG GT3 Engine: 4.0L V8 twin-turbocharged Power Output: Around 500-550 hp (varies due to BoP) Weight: Minimum weight approximately 1285 kg (subject to BoP adjustments) Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive 3. Porsche 911 GT3 R Engine: 4.0L flat-six naturally aspirated Power Output: Typically between 500-550 hp (adjusted by BoP) Weight: Minimum weight about 1230 kg (can vary with BoP) Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive 4. Ferrari 488 GT3 Engine: 3.9L V8 twin-turbocharged Power Output: Estimated 500-600 hp (BoP dependent) Weight: Minimum weight around 1245 kg (subject to BoP changes) Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive 5. BMW M6 GT3 Engine: 4.4L V8 twin-turbocharged Power Output: Roughly 500-585 hp (adjusted by BoP) Weight: Minimum weight typically 1300 kg (varies with BoP) Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive Tires: Audi R8 LMS GT3: Front: 325/680-R18 Rear: 325/705-R18 Mercedes-AMG GT3: Front: 325/660-R18 Rear: 325/705-R18 Porsche 911 GT3 R: Front: 300/660-R18 Rear: 330/705-R18 Ferrari 488 GT3: Front: 325/680-R18 Rear: 325/705-R18 BMW M6 GT3: Front: 325/680-R18 Rear: 325/705-R18 A larger contact patch generally provides more grip, which is why you see specifications like "325/680-R18" where 325 refers to the tire width in millimeters, and 680 indicates the sidewall height (aspect ratio). The final component, "R18", refers to the rim diameter in inches.You can see that the difference are measurable within the milimetres, which promotes on-track safety and lap time consistency between each cars, as official tire suppliers are able to collect valuable data to balance the field even further. In a nutshell, weight-to-grip (whatever it is), does not create an even playing field to such a difference field of cars.

[@arielfernandez8196]

that's kinda the point, at the beginning they do point out it gives an insane advantage to exotics and Italian imports. though the tire thing is used in some classes, Gridlife's GLTC comes to mind. It's also power-to-weight limited, but there's a weight bracket system for average tire width, eg a 2000lbs car would be allowed up to 240 average width tires but a 3000lbs car can run 285 average or whatever. and they're locked to 200treadwear. you can see this in Gears and Gasoline's civic type R and camry-swapped MR2 builds for GLTC

[@gonnaleaveamark]

​@@arielfernandez8196 Yep, that's a good point to add. A variation of tire width and weight brackets are great ways to ensure balance. GLTC's 12.5 lbs/HP, power-to-weight ratio is also a notable method. GLTC's regulation works because it provides clear instructions of how you should build your car, based on the ruleset. Even adding brackets to specific engine families, aerodynamics (shape & width), gearbox, etc. However, in MFG's context, everything becomes a bit vague. It's not your standard race track, it's a road course twice the size of the Nurburgring. Calculating balance for each variation of cars could be more than challenging. Simply swapping tires based on weight while not accounting for other factors such as CoG, downforce, gear ratio, and power output simply doesn't work. There are just too many loopholes. Also, most vehicles here are listed as stock and receive minimal modifications. My opinion is, that without a clear indication on where the regulation is going to, potentially people would be building their cars based on WTAC or FIA Hillclimb Monsters series. TBH I love the new perspective you gave me. Thanks a million!

[@jozobozo5]

It's alright. The racing is really fun, but I hope the personal stories get flashed out. The MC isn't even that bad. He actually has more personality than Takumi did early in Initial D, but the way the story is framed it just doesn't have the vibes Initial D has as soon as it starts. The reason so many of us resonate with Initial D so much is cause it's so down to earth and we are or know people like the ones in the show. MFG feels more like the Initial D did after 3rd stage. I'd honestly rather have a prequel about Bunta. That would hit the vibes so much better and I think it'd be more interesting since Bunta is a character we don't know much about, but love to watch.

[@stephenanderson3776]

Ive been into initial d for a long time, and this is fine. Doesnt have the same street style that i loved but its still a really good show. Are there things i dont like? Of course but still the racings really good

[@bullymaguire8380]

its okay you enjoyed the anime but fact of the matter is the racing in this show is far worse than initial d.

[@stephenanderson3776]

@@bullymaguire8380 oh I definately agree. It doesn't hold a candle. But then again I don't think there's going to be anything as good as initial d coming out. They didn't even dub the final stage of initial d and I'm still raging

[@__chaudharysaab__]

Apart from initial d, capeta is one of the best most underrated racing anime ever

[@HarshitKadpate]

Short Answer: Yes, It absolutely does!, If you ignore the Fan service part. mahn Season 2 is peak.

[@sird4vy501]

Initial D out of the races is pretty cool still, the characters are good enough to have their time.

[@faifai3133]

I know that it's a creative work but it's just now i know very much about cars and it's capabilities, technically and potentially compared to when i was a tiny boy watching inital d back then. The idea of lightweight corolla with an actual racing engine smoking every era-accurate (ish) popular jdms on specifically downhill race is acceptable albeit some techniques used are questionable. But an early version gt86 with that puny lifeless boxer engine against porsches , bmws, and lambos? on a full mountain road with lots of ups and downs and straights? It's just too much to wrap my head around with.

[@spookerlmao]

I really hope it lives up to Initial D, Itd be cool as hell if my GT86 becomes a 25 thousand dollar car as the AE86 did lmao

[@elrinconcuriosodesally3528]

I saw the first episode along it's competition (Overtake! / Highspeed Étoile) and liked them more than MFG because the main feels human with their "I want to be faster, then I must practice and believe in myself" while we have here a Gary Stu (Male Mary Sue, aka OP character in almost every aspect) making it feel bland and more of a weekly official eurobeat AMV for the music label that is being used

[@arthamsingh366]

I would recommend to read the manga before passing judgements. Honestly, the video felt rather lackluster because it only focused on the story till the point season 1 of the anime was made. I will admit that even the manga feels rather mundane outside of the races but it really does delve into Kanata, his backstory and his journey in Japan. Understand that Kanata by nature is a closed up person and he is in a country where he doesn't know many people. As you would progress in the story you would see Kanata open up slowly with Ren as the pair would hunt for clues to find Kanata's father. In the end, if you are going to compare MF Ghost with Initial D, then yes, it is going to severely pale in comparison. But by itself it is a decent story with hints of Initial D here and there which makes it rather endearing to read through. For instance, were you aware that while reading through the manga, you'll find that Takumi ended up marrying Mika Uehara (his GF in 5th Stage)? Or the fact that other than the Takahashi brothers, characters from Todo School and Zero Academy also make appearances as guest commentators? There is a lot of interesting tid bits about our old favorite characters which makes me want to go through this story. If nothing else it helps us glean into what became of the characters post Initial D.

[@Reallifechoji]

Correction it is hard to find a pre facelift AE86 hot hatch for a decent price coupes from 1982 to 1987 and facelift hot hatches are going up in price but there not super high like the face lift hot hatch

[@AshishDesai444]

I'm the type of car enthusiast who will watch anything and everything that is car related that includes amine

[@Sheen-dw2ns]

I thought this video was about someone becoming the next MF Doom

[@millosukasusumilo6979]

Worth it Best thing about this anime is The race Yes only the race

[@shira_yone]

Nah, it's bad.

[@RallyAddict555]

In my opinion, NOTHING will ever compare to initial D season 1 and 2 but from what ive seen so far mf ghost seems decent. Im probably gonna binge it all once season 2 is done

[@shira_yone]

If only they made Over-rev anime, would easily top Initial D.

[@LeeONardo]

I had the manga and enjoyed it until Project D is formed, a read a couple more volumes and then just tailed off after that. I just feel that at the Project D point you can kinda just see it as an ending of sorts so I was content. Do hold Initial D close to my heart though.

[@RallyAddict555]

@@LeeONardo same for the anime in my opinion, it feels kind of soulless after the first couple episodes of season 4

[@Fjdjfjsz92938]

@@LeeONardoyeah it just became a kind of generic racing thing, in the first three stages takumi was still kind of an underdog that’s crew were just his friends but after that takumi has a whole like support crew.

[@airsoftjisus4730]

deep characters in anime is something hard to find, now you want a car anime with deep characters. c'mon!

[@nickmaravi6187]

It was cool to see the fk8 in mf ghost mainly cuz I drive one but it did not live up to the races of inital d

[@ivzrgd9665]

To be fair Initial D just showed japanese cars, because in that years 80s 90s, the big part of cars that take place in touge were JDM, due to the low cost. In MF ghost, we are talking about rich people with sponsors and so on, who can afford an Lambo or Ferrari just for fun. I dont think Kanata is Overpower... Beckenbauer and the French guy are at the same level at least and we dont know if they are even better than the main character. About the story of the anime when they are not racing, i dont find it boring. There are smalls detaills going on like the moment where the mom of rem notice that Kanata learn really quick just by seeing the japanese simbols making reference to the great Photomemory (idk if it is good writed) that kanata has, explaining why he could drive in that way from the very beginning. Of course there unnecesary stuff... and i dont think we need to mention here it is really obvious... ehem Fanservice. but yeah i find it a good anime in general like 7.5/10

[@asdowo111]

Well if they do a 1 for 1 adaptation of the manga, it runs on nostalgia factor with the exact formula as Initial D, the MFG Angels as your standard fan service and street circuit style racing. What I really dont like are the so called "tourists" with the conventional racing arguments such as: -how can an 86 beat a Ferrari -how can bigger tires make a car slower and lose grip on corners and your average western anime fan: -pedophile 21 year old hits on 17 year old girl -why are they dressed like that. Its as if people forget its an anime. At the end of the day, I still prefer Initial D over MF Ghost but its always nice to watch cars go fast with accompanying eurobeat even it doesnt make sense in the real world.

[@hilariouzlygamin6755]

Actually some itasha car guy does a great job with the decals. But some just put it to their car just to say they are one of the itasha guys

[@singular9]

In summary, Traumatized robotic max verstappen gets teleported into another world as an F4 driver who ruins his career to experience human emotion by finding his real dad and not the crazy Jos that beat him as a child into a racing machine.

[@domonkosludvig3314]

Sick thumbnail!

[@birdie4623]

4:51 the regulation is grip to weight ratio not power to grip ratio. Power is unrestricted so they started calling it the rich man's regulation because everybody racing started using high horsepower european models which were unattainable unless you were rich

[@ケンジロ]

The mother f...Ghost?

[@egeeksert2756]

Finally someone pointed the obvious at 8:34

[@GagnesterLOL]

he is 21 years old...

[@egeeksert2756]

@@GagnesterLOL I meant the racist german guy...

[@melli_yt3790]

All I want is a track racing anime like Capeta

[@G.A.M.Y.]

The driving is good so i approve

[@Jay-mj5lu]

4:47 I thought it was Uniformed Grip to weight ratio.

[@patricknoeltan8623]

kanata Revington, Kanata Katagiri

[@RazulRabbi]

i planned to watch tihs one. but kinda confused. as my starting is from wangan midnight. though I see some episode of initial D, I know those 2 kinda good. but have 0 idea about this one.

[@humzaali6192]

if kanata was an f4 champion, he could gone to f1 maube challenge max verstappen

[@javianbrown8627]

Not everyone who does well in f3 and 4 do well in f1 but I get the joke lol

[@maddoxtri]

i agree with also every points you made in this video except two points. 1. about "the p word character. just a reminder Japan's legal age is 16 but that kind of relationship is somewhat frown upon. but japan being japan. it still somewhat close off from the rest of the world culturally. so if judging from japanese's poi dating 17 yo is legal but a bit creepy. and the other point is sexualizing of female charters (angels) i remember that race queen in skimpy outfit (one piece swim suit mostly) still exist in japan at a time the manga came out (at least).

[@trustyvault13canteen32]

Y'all are really gonna dislike how they end the search for Kanatas dad

[@VezSad]

I want a brz/gt86 and well the prices will rise to oblivion