THE INITIAL D ICEBERG EXPLAINED

[@GhoulCityOnline]

Thanks for all the support guys, please LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE and check out the rest of my channel for more interesting stuff about whatever tf I'm going to use this pinned comment to add some more info I've found about certain things months later. 20:42 Shigeno's other series - First off, I accidentally used clips from a completely unrelated motorcycle anime with a similar name and not the real BARI BARI DENSETSU ova's. Secondly, I found Sho and honestly I feel really dumb for not thinking of this earlier. If you just google search it in Japanese "将〔ショウ〕" it comes up immediately. Not lost at all, You can buy the entire series right now on Yahoo! auctions japan for like $7. It's all in Japanese of course but you can buy it so it's not "lost". 36:51 - Singapore is a country not a city in South Korea. Oppsies. The cafe is in Singapore, there is no initial d restaurant in South Korea as far as I know.

[@sinfulkira]

I was honestly surprised, when i saw how many subscribers you have. You definitely deserve more

[@SuperShotgun300]

Good video, got me laughing throughout this one. Subbed and I'll check out your other ones 👍

[@SamuraiGamingMikejr]

the mf ghost had me dieing i thought noone else called it motherfucking ghost and you got my sub for it

[@ahtiulanen6122]

Not to promote piracy, but animeflix has all seasons including the movie with the funimation dub for the first 4 seasons and sub for all the seasons, it's in 1080p too, another one with worse quality and no subs for the first 4 seasons, only the funimation dub is wcoforever, it has a wide range of other cartoons, anime, cartoon movies, ovas and what not

[@ngcarson6607]

you know that 9anime has all the stages and movies

[@genericexcuse4737]

That theory about Takumi’s mother and Bunta setting the fastest downhill of Akina is actually a really cool thing to imagine.

[@vmm_repairs]

i wonder what time bunta did

[@zulik9831]

​@@vmm_repairs i would say under 4 minutes since he drifts (which surpisingly its safer but overall slower) and it is a bit tunned, since it had 150hp instead of 130hp

[@andrijamitic3434]

This theory made me realize that the timeline doesn't make sense at all. The AE86 was always referred to as an 10 year old car, while Takumi is 18 years old. This would mean that Bunta was racing people well into Takumi's childhood

[@genericexcuse4737]

@@andrijamitic3434 That’s where I fill in the gaps with the “Dreamin of Akina” fan fiction prequal, because sadly none of it officially matter as very little is canonically known.

[@zulik9831]

@@andrijamitic3434 well, initial D happens in 1992 (first stage, showed on the newsletters of itsuki being amazed because iketani brain melted in the third turn) and the 86 was released in 1983, so its a 9 years old car and not a 10 years old one, also, only 2 years and 3 months (from before summer 1992 to 1 year until the spring where takumi joins project D and one year of proyect D and end of summer) take place from first to last stage, if we dont take the newspapers as proof and only the 86 release, it would be from 1993 to 1995, so god feet r34 (released in 2002 and he has had it some time) should theorically be a r33 but it isnt, initial D timeline doesnt make sense, so dont even try

[@Sloptire]

some other stuff: 1. Toyota recently announced two eco friendly AE86 with initial d livery during its showcase, and the japanese text on the doors mention the model name (i think) 2. Some Gran Turismo titles include Shuichi Shigeno's own AE86 in the car list. 3. Wangan Midnight and Initial D collaborated in Initial D Arcade game in which the Devil Z and the 930 are present in the game. 4. In Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune 5 arcade game, there is a race in which you have to battle wannabe races who look similar to Takumi and Keisuke. They drive a panda Trueno and Yellow FD respectively. 5. In the Real life Irohazaka Touge, people seemed to have attempted the infamous Irohazaka jump. To prevent this, the authorities responsible have deliberately put extra guardrails on the inside of certain hairpin turns (including the turn mentioned in the anime) Irrelevant fact: RWB, the famous Porsche 911 tuner, initially started out tuning AE86 Cars only.

[@onizukabetrippin5732]

About the RWB tuning AE86 is true. Before Nakai-San (the head of RWB) started tuning Porsches, He had his own team name Rough World which they drift with AE86s. After owning a Porsche, he started tuning Porsche till this day and the reason he name his tuning company RWB is because RWB means Rauh Welt Begriff which in English is Rough World so he rebranded his name into German.

[@SummonerArthur]

6. Wangan and initial d had a collab on a mobile game called "drift spirits". First they had separated events, but then they had an event togheter where the player could unlock and race the anime cars with "wangan X initial D" liveries on them, and the characters pics to use on your in game profile.

[@DesiredH]

People fr saw Kogashiwa and said "I can do that"

[@William180-s9e]

In Number 6. Made me consider removing the Irohazaka Slope Guard Rails😂😂

[@Icaruz]

nr5 is so funny and crazy haha... so people tried it.. how did it end tho?

[@1weirdpotato426]

Some of the things that made the 86 so desirable was the fact that it almost had a perfect 50/50 weight distribution which is good for preformance driving. It has a short wheelbase so it's easy to get it sliding. The car was also pretty cheap in the 80's and 90's so it was popular for broke wannabe racers. It was very light weight and had a reasonably capable engine. (A lot of the chassies are probably even lighter now than what they were in the 80's due to rust lol)

[@ArbitraryOutcome]

Similarly, "drift tax" affected S-chassis cars and it's also pretty hard to find stock ones at low prices.

[@ThatSlowBRZZ]

+ a live rear axle with uneven suspension length made it incredibly hard not to get sideways

[@1weirdpotato426]

@@ThatSlowBRZZ true lmao

[@ArchOfficial]

Except this is entirely false. The AE86 has a load distribution of 55% with a full fuel tank. That's very bad in terms of sportscars.

[@TMWSTW-hy5ph]

@@ArchOfficial explain MR for RR cars then

[@noriyaro]

Oh hey that was my photo of the empty lot where the tofu shop used to be. 😆

[@GhoulCityOnline]

YOOO haha thanks for taking it!

[@DragonSStuff2441]

Second reply? Thank you.

[@waldosanchez9627]

First iceberg video I’ve ever watched 🫡🫡🫡

[@charlespascua9740]

Same over here

[@GreenHairGoblin]

same 😅

[@mikoji123]

same dis is my first. i never like this videos except this one

[@projectmessiah]

Congratulations

[@noxturne16]

i’ve only watched this and the formula 1 icebergs lol

[@AkimasaJP]

That theory about Takumi’s mom is so bittersweet. One one hand we know how much he loved his wife and his son and because of that did the fastest downhill run that Mt. Akina has ever seen, and because of that Takumi got the chance at life his wife didn’t have. But on the other hand nobody besides Bunta and maybe Takumi knows about it even happening, Takumi ended up growing up without his mother and Bunta is now the most depressed he’s ever been (and probably even blames Takumi for his wife’s death to some extent) which led him to start drinking. It really makes me wish that Shigeno wrote some sort of spinoff that went into Bunta’s backstory like that Dreaming of Akina fanfic

[@mikoji123]

hopefully takumi will mention something about his mother on mf ghost

[@mister54336.]

That's not how I believe it was

[@thomasliptak9469]

Can i see the Dreaming of Akina fic?

[@crongo4284]

I dont think bunta would blame takumi for anything.

[@Revster]

@@mikoji123takumi hasn’t even said anything or appeared in person yet

[@joelreyes8312]

"Mother Fucking Ghost" was too funny

[@taxevasion3206]

Ive been watching your content ever since that initial d review 2 years ago, and watching you make a full fledged iceberg video on the series just brings me so much joy

[@GhoulCityOnline]

[@caledonianrailway1233]

@@GhoulCityOnline countach review

[@mangosteak]

​@@GhoulCityOnline Where can I read Densha de D?

[@ef5supercell]

@ ~ 25:00 When the AE86 was released, it was a SMASH kit in gymkhana. Everyone wanted one. Keiichi said it himself, he had a deal with Racing Project BANDOH, if he won a certain number of races or whatever in his KP61 Starlet, he could drive an AE86, Keiichi wanted an 86. The car has been seen in Magazine issues by CARBOY as early as 1984 showing off street drifting (yes, it was very popular before Za Touge in 1987), the car was an instant success and Initial D in the grand scheme of things, had little to no affect on the popularity of the car in Japan.

[@5-Consecutive-Hairpin-Turns]

20:30 made me laugh way harder then it should have

[@emmanuelwil-jeff]

honestly it's sad but mabey the lesson here is if iketani's okay with it then we can be to altho I'll say that he ever got a girl or had a gf surprises me xD

[@vptknrn5939]

Fun fact:The Battle Gear games,a racing franchise published by Taito for the PS2 and arcade that is focused on touge and track racing has tons of initial D references,such as the upgraded 22b's driver silhouette resembling Bunta,the AE86 having the Fujiwara Tofu Shop sticker on its sides,and even featuring stages from Initial D,like Mt Haruna,Akagi and Nagao.

[@_.fox._370]

I normally don't leave comments that often but this has got to be the best iceberg video I've watched. It's about my favorite anime and your sense of humor really makes it stand out amongst the rest. Most of the other ones are just people monotone-ly reading off a script. Nice video!

[@GhoulCityOnline]

Thank you! That was the goal, however like I say at the end, I absolutely understand why nobody else does icebergs like this lol. They're super tedious and require tons of research, and when you get into those ones with like 300+ entries on it, it would take an entire year to do AND actually make it entertaining the whole way through.

[@OttomanDrifter91]

Fun fact; i started watching Initial D back in mid 2000's (couple years after foruth stage was out and they were my first exposure), giving it some time with my car enthusiast and gamer friends respectively, the ones that liked the series and i started to have some inside jokes. Decades later meme culture caugth up with the series and how silently it got popular and then got it exploded with memes. The irony is most memes were the inside jokes me and my friends make about the series, henceforth, while some fans take it very seriously, Initial D was objectively full of memes. You started to make 'ultra-super-late-braking' montages back in 2018? We were making those jokes playing Live for Speed back in 2006, welcome to the fold MF lol Also i agree, lifeline of the series is the characters own stories and development (never seeing the manga and learning about Takumi's unwanted sidechick, now i feel bad about never seeing it, dang). You want to see real racing? Go watch Wangan Midnight. After the dumbass 'girl in the Z fails to commit seppuku and moves abroad' incident racing gets so intense you'll shit your pants. Great video. I love the MF Ghost slander lolol

[@OttomanDrifter91]

Also i gotta add... KZbinr 'Noriyaro' does a lot of Initial D event and memorabilia vlogs, goes to real places and talks to REAL people. He is somewhat close to Shigeno's creative crew and very much integral in Japanese drifting scene since mid 2000's. Also a weeb of course. Go watch his episode of Trash Taste Podcast, he drops lots of tea about how much of the series is inspired by real life, events like 'Shinigami GT-R Triple Braking' incident ACTUALLY happening back in 20XX and whatnot. I love how you mentioned misadventures of M.O.V.E. but 'Dave Rodgers' is also a pretty key person for the eurobeat ost as the 'almost inventor' of the genre. As an Italian musician he doesn't even reside in Japan, he comes up with this genre out of thin air about cars, money, and lovin', blasts off all the clubs and entire Initial D soundtrack collection, refuses to elaborate further. Of the entire eurobeat soundtrack of the series, at least 1/3 of it is made and/or produced by him. He still makes music, in fact he does meme songs about the series since he is a massive jokester. His own channels and profiles are massively underrated but he still makes music videos for his old songs and publishes remixes. He still does stage shows (even during covid pandemic) and dresses like a millenium wizard, giving everyone smiles. Massive talent, mad respects to him

[@Justalaunchlover2421]

Lfs is an incredible game even nowadays

[@Sylveighty]

Some extra ones (mostly Arcade Stage stuff): It's common knowledge now but there are eurobeat tracks used in the anime that were made specifically for Initial D (mainly Fourth Stage) which are Speed Car by D-Team and Takumi by Neo The studio that made Fourth Stage (ACGT) also made the anime for Wangan Midnight and they reused some of the car models like Tohru's Eunos Roadster and there was even a scene where a character talks to a couple making out inside of an AE86 (I guess a funny nod to Mogi and Takumi allegedly making out in the 86 in Third Stage) Also more Wangan Midnight Initial D references, there is an enemy in the Wangan Midnight Maxi Tune games named Racer Wannabes A and B and they drive an AE86 and a RX7 respectively. And lastly in the Mount Taikan (also known as Hakone Turnpike) course from Maxi Tune you can find those two cars parked on the background as well. Fumihiro's white MR2 ALSO YOU CAN DO THE MANEUVER RYOSUKE DOES IN HIS FIGHT AGAINST SHINIGAMI (climbing the bank) IN THE ARCADE STAGE GAMES WHERE HAKONE IS INCLUDED (mainly, D8 Dzero and The Arcade), every one knows about the turning off lights at night, gutter technique and it's variations, the irohazaka jumps. But I have literally seen nobody talk about the bank trick in Hakone The games also included some real life cars that weren't in the show as a character's car (that was a street racer) and some oddities: Honda CRX and Papa's Mercedes Benz in the PSX/PS1 Initial D game Mazda RX8, Silvia S14 K's Aero, Mazda RX7 Spirit R and Subaru GDBA WRX STI (Arcade Stage - Arcade Stage 3 and ports) Evo 9 (Arcade Stage 4 and onwards) Mazda RX7 Type RS (Arcade Stage 5 and onwards) now we get to the weird tuner cars/odd ones: Subaru BRZ, Evo X, GT-R R35, WRX STI GDBF, Toyota FT-86 (Also known as the GT86 prototype/concept car), the legendary... Toyota Prius... no seriously (Arcade Stage 6 and onwards except the FT86 it was only in D6) NSX-R, Honda Twincam Monster EK9 Civic, Mazdaspeed Roadster Type-C, Amuse S2000, RE Amemiya Genki-7 (weird looking alien rx7), Top Secret G-Force Supra (Arcade Stage 7 onwards) Fujita FEED FD3S, J's S2000, MCR R34 (Arcade Stage Zero) Porsche 718, Porsche 911/964, Toyota GR Yaris and GR Supra, JZX100/Chaser (The Arcade) There was a secret combination that you could do in the old initial d games that allows you to use Bunta's GC8V impreza (as the one available in the game is not the exact car that Bunta has), don't quote me on it. I forgot the combo but you do it in car select. Also everyone forgets about Tsukamoto who was Takumi's senior who drove a red 180sx and had Takumi drive for him after a black S13 challenged them to a race after they accidentally dented his bumper in the Arcade Stage games, some cars have an overrev buzzer (mainly the newer GD series imprezas and the RX7s) In Arcade Stage and Arcade Stage Version 2 you get a manga filter image of your car driving at the game over screen in the files, the Two Guys from Tokyo are called Debu (meaning Fat) and Megane (meaning Glasses) In D8 back in the online era you could change your countdown sound to one of the initial d characters (which is also what they use for Rivalside) go play initial d arcade stage or something idk

[@ArbitraryOutcome]

The overrev buzzer seen in rotary cars is a real thing, yes. It's also present in other games like Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune. Arcade Stage 8 is also the final game in the series to feature character voicelines.

[@azula2kutt807]

For someone who didn't watch initial d or likes icebergs this is pretty solid

[@GhoulCityOnline]

Honestly, highest praise I could imagine. If you liked my style and don't care that much about initial d or icebergs, just about every other video I've ever done on here or my previous channel is unrelated to initial d and icebergs :-)

[@Scout-xw1uk]

Fantastic video, Car dude here. One of the major reasons they were used was the weight distribution, having almost perfect 50/50 weight distribution is definitely helpful for driving and just hucking the car around in general, Might be some other stuff but just the pricing of the car and the maintenance in general USED to be okay. Hope that helps! Fantastic video as well. (Edit) Another unrelated thing that I think you would like would be the video Noriyaro made about drifting his 86 with the same New Balances that Takumi wears. Ill stop waffling.

[@WakanaGojo86]

For the time owning an AE86 made sense mostly because other than being cheap it was a great beginners car and being a Toyota it is reliable and had a lower lower maintenance cost. Now the car is 40 years old, things are starting to not work the way they used to, parts are not easy to find and the maintenance and service cost really depends on the service centre, most service centres charge you higher because of it being an older model but those are things that classical car buyers have to go through and that's really no problem at all. What's really a big problem for most people is that because of the Drift Tax you have to pay an unusually higher amount for the car which to me is not a issue at all because that way atleast most people out there will treat it as a special car (which it obviously is) instead of treating it as a Corolla which to most people is just a regular commute vehicle and nothing much is aspirational about it so most people won't even care to preserve it.

[@BlueTeam-John-Fred-Linda-Kelly]

I like how we have a sequel series anime on the way, but no easy/legal way to watch the entire original series.

[@Mr.Engine993]

If they make it a chore to get to watch it legally, they deserve piracy imo

[@layth116]

9anime aka aniwave + adblock for the win

[@NrettG]

@@Mr.Engine993 I mean it's going to happen one day. If Gkids was able to get all of Evangelion on Bluray and in public stores, I think we can get all of initial D on Bluray as well. I think if MF Ghost can get super popular then maybe we'll see it all get complied.

[@Prozacpapi187]

It’s on Hulu and prime ?

[@toughtntman37doesanimations]

I personally have conflicting opinions about a few things, such as the quality of fifth and final stage and the need for the grand finale of a battle to be an hour long, but overall, this was a very entertaining, funny, and well written video with good pacing and had a lot of stuff I never knew. And it's amazing that all this info was packed into the length of one measly race from the anime itself.

[@どくたるいじぢん]

I respect your hard work on Initial D iceberg since no one talk about even a bunch of Otakus. Your research reminds me of myself researching a sad and dark lore of Japanese preschooler anime, Shimajiro. It took me almost 2 years to research it's grim and sanguinary lore behind the family friendly anime. Researching Shimajiro lore is like digging dark and cold graveyard that corporate won't allow to let you see (Benesse Corporation is the entire ordeal behind this)

[@GhoulCityOnline]

I don't totally understand what you're talking about but right on bro-tendo.

[@Sagattarius22]

Great iceberg video. Just watched the full series recently and your review video too. It's weird to me that there aren't many explaining/documentary types of videos about initial d i guess people care about only eurobeat lol.

[@GhoulCityOnline]

Yeah it's a series that's both popular and isn't. Everybody knows it but few people KNOW IT.

[@Follett2121]

In gta, another reference to the series is made with the 8 spoke watanabe style wheels called “Fujiwara” wheels in the game.

[@professorbaelus627]

jesus I forgot about the Avex shitshow back then that takes me back to school days holy shit. this whole vid is super really nostalgic thanks for making this man

[@fastcarboi]

It's actually pretty good Initial d iceberg video ‼️ (cough better than the first one) I like how from the start it was like normal "top of the iceberg" till it gone to tier 5 and so on..... Around the tier 5 it started to get interesting (mostly the merchandise and the collectibles) I want to point out that Initial D is not only about a racing/romance anime, but about a show that had many things that where forbidden from the outside world which can (already) led it into a interesting show with 'lost media' into it. Hopefully the Initial D community grows (again) and all of the older veteran fans show us of what we missed from before years....... (besides the memes from 2017)

[@JupiterTarts]

Initial D Arcade Stage 3 was the most insane scene in the 2000s. On any given night from 2004-2006, you'd have lines of guys at the ID3 machine ready to knock the next player of the macbine. We had a local NJ guy that was a couple of miliseconds off the world record on some of the tracks. There will never be another moment in time like it 😭

[@j.a.g.v.7656]

"techno gay music" no more eurobeat just techno gay music This is hands down one of the only entretaining videos i have seen on KZbin lately

[@GhoulCityOnline]

I got other videos too ;-)

[@ThePonySlayer]

You forgot to say that suichi's 86 is available to play on Gran Turismo games since gt3. Great video man. I hope that you really liked the final product because I did.

[@GhoulCityOnline]

I know the AE86 is in those games but it's specifically Shuichi Shegeno's? Isn't his just a recreation of the tofu shop 86 or a basic panda trueno?

[@ThePonySlayer]

@@GhoulCityOnline Yes it is Shuichi Shegeno's 86 and not Takumi's 86. the car has the carbon hood but not the racing engine just like his real life car.

[@ThePonySlayer]

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[@GhoulCityOnline]

Oh shit. That's crazy I never came across that when I was researching, thank for letting me know

[@LieutenantDangleBerries]

@@ThePonySlayerI may be mistaken, but the engine that’s always been listed as what’s under the hood of Suichi’s AE86 was a 4A-GELU 20v out of an AE101. While it’s not the full blown TRD Formula Atlantic motor that Takumi has, it’s still pushing ~130hp per liter.

[@TheApatheticGuy]

Initial D got me into wrenching on cars, and eventually got me to buy a car with a manual transmission. Your anti-iceberg iceberg was great. Keep up the good work.

[@ObjectivelyCorrectOpinion]

I've been waiting for this iceberg for so long. Definitely would made it myself, but it's hard for me to speak english openly and create such long videos. As a big nerd in the series, I'm glad that I know every topic from this iceberg. Great video, mate!

[@oler777]

thank you very much for explaining what an iceberg is with out saying it i love how the tiers are not numbers or levels

[@initialdgtamvs3497]

Some of your gags in this video legit had me dying (the extra stage gag was too good oml)

[@angetusksalako6622]

FINALLY SOMEONE SAID THAT TAKAHASHI BROS ARE DIO AND PUCCI

[@oLoGoS]

respect for mentioning Dreaming of Akina!

[@kenjamago3977]

finally someone mentioned the existences of "Dreaming of Akina". fr tho' this fanfic felt so much down to earth that told the backstory of Bunta & his rise into a legend that he once known in Initial D Universe. Hell even some characters are parallels with the canon show (Tachibana to Bunta like how Itsuki is to Takumi, theres that one Suzuki guy that show Bunta & Tachibana the "TRD 4AGE" engine is basically Bunta's Iketani but had more skill, Bunta's uncle that's the original King of Akina and so much more). And the cool thing from this fic itself is that Bunta actually did went to Tokyo & had an almost Wangan Midnight esque highway racing. To me personally this fic itself is definitely a well made one that certainly IS canon to me (fanfics that expand the lore is my thing & this fic perfectly encaptures it). Also the author also made a pseudo sequel fic to Initial D long before MF Ghost was even a thing (hell even before GT86 was ever made, the protag is somehow driving a pseudo successor/heavily modded retro futuristic AE86)

[@genericexcuse4737]

Started reading Dreaming Of Akina because of this video, only a few chapters in but I already like it enough to want to read all 86 chapters.

[@user-pf3wy4ds9k]

can you send me the link to the story (plz i want to read it so bad)🙏🙏🙏

[@XJR15ftw]

Jesus this is an OG shoutout, I really wasn't expecting it. AGES ago I read it, was obsessed with it and helped Sanae proofread the sequel at the time (called Golden Arrows) and some feedback on technical car stuff. I don't read fanfics anymore (nothing wrong w it, just don't have the time), but I think it was one of the best I've ever read. Much better writing than Shigeno himself!

[@kenjamago3977]

@@XJR15ftw holy gee! Man i didn't expect to meet someone that involves with the making of this fic. If i may ask did you had any kinds of trivia regarding of the making of Dreaming of Akina?

[@XJR15ftw]

​@@kenjamago3977 Sorry, I wrote a response three times and apparently there's something about it KZbin doesn't like so it gets removed :S I think it was me linking to the fanfics website. I'll try to summarize again: All the DMs from that era in the fanfiction website I can't link to have been wiped (and even Sanae's comments in reviews too apparently), but pulling from memory: the highlight for me was Sanae being very aware that her forte was characters/plot writing, not racing. She's not (or was not) a car girl at all, so she made a conscious effort to create her own huge directory of cars with pictures and brief descriptions, and would often discuss with commenters and DMers about technical bits. She never revealed plot points or anything, but she did discuss theoretical matchups in DMs, some of which did end up happening in her fanfics. I'm sorry I can't remember specifics 😢 At some point she sent me a couple possible covers for both Dreaming of Akina and Golden Arrows for me to give an opinion on, as well as ebook copies of both entire fanfics. I think she did a fantastic job, and made a huge effort to get informed about car stuff to avoid doing anything overtly silly for the racing bits. Notably I thought at the time the plot for Golden Arrows (which involves a mostly OC cast, with a lot of sons and daughters of OG characters) could turn out to be complete cringe, but she managed to thread it all together so it was still riveting. It is a MUCH MUCH better sequel than MF Ghost.

[@Roadbobek]

I have every piece of Initial D media on a hard drive, 800GB+

[@SidewaysLoveJP]

The vocal battle was hilarious… I thought I knew everything about Keiichi and Initial D & you taught me something new 😂

[@jeffreyquizon509]

Pertaining to the flash games, There was this Initial D custom map game that played on a Space battle ship game. You could choose between 4-5 cars (86, FD, FC, Sil80, maybe 1 more) and each had different attributes. i don't know the name of the game or how I accessed the Initial D custom map game but it gave me some good free fun for a couple weeks

[@DMCRX-7]

My favorite car is the Delorean,I love how you talk about it on Initial D

[@novarangerx6441]

Awesome video! I usually check out initial d content every now and again since I am a huge fan of eurobeat, so It's cool to see some unusual details! Keep up the great work!

[@Mr.Badree]

making an iceberg for Initial D is just the content I needed today

[@WrestlingColin]

A couple years ago I watched the series through in a few weeks and fell in love with it. I REFUSE to fuck with those omnibus movies. I watched 5 minutes of one and absence of Eurobeat simply sickened me.

[@CancelledMcCree]

You forgot the other pivotal JoJo reference… Takumi’s VA is Shin-ichiro Miki who also voiced Sagat from Street Fighter & Gyro Zeppeli from JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure All-Star Battle 2013 & R.

[@GhoulCityOnline]

It's not so much forgetting, more so just not knowing lol

[@zenna6000]

he also voices zamasu in dbs

[@WakanaGojo86]

Despite the fact that I love Initial D so much that it's still my all time favourite anime series and nothing has been able to top it till now for me. But I always used to have an impression about the series that at the time when it was airing it was received as an average series that not many audience cared about and that it's the Eurobeat memes that started on the internet in 2017 that made it popular and that was how I was introduced to this wonderful series in 2020. But after watching this iceberg video of yours I am really starting to see how popular Initial D was at the time (still is to some extent again thanks to video creators like you who keep bringing new people into the community) and how there are so much obscure number of merchandise made based on the series and that other than the Extra Stage but Battle Stage there are more extra series in audiobook form and many unknown video games as well.

[@ArbitraryOutcome]

I think a relatively obscure thing I'd add to this iceberg is the game Initial D: Perfect Shift Online. It was a Japan-exclusive Nintendo 3DS title that I think was a digital freemium live service game, but I guess it could be lumped in with the console games segment if it isn't THAT obscure relative to other titles.

[@Sylveighty]

by the way, something to add to the iceberg: Initial D Arcade Stage 7 Limited, basically the arcade game that uses cars as the cabinets but for Arcade Stage 7 instead of Arcade Stage 4, it can only be found in china though

[@VB_Bryan]

MF Ghost is actually really good. I read it after i watched Initial D and was surprised to find a good story with a more engaging Takumi

[@stich.991]

As a fan of both Iceberg videos and Initial D I was ultimately glued to the screen while watching your video, also, really appreciated for mentioning me and my gameplay!

[@DMCRX-7]

There is Super Drift 3D,that is inspired in Initial D

[@toaster6701]

12:58 Thats nice to know that they kept that Also random thing in California There's a place called Fujiwara tofu cafe I really wanna go there they sell lots of tofu and drinks And if you didnt know, lots of initial D stuff in that shop lol

[@ironwolf3699]

Initial D got me to want to drive in real life, even manual. Like the shift work in Initial D looked awesome I love the way they showed Takumi heal toe downshift, and shift so fast. I even got into sim racing, I drive the stock ae86 in 2017 mt akina, on assetto corsa. Currently my best time is a 5:52.

[@thedipermontshow]

*Honestly?* this iceberg is S+ tier. My type of humor, the editing is solid and your voice sounds nice. EZ 10/10 *would watch again*

[@miguel.5787]

this video and your channel in general is criminally underrated, the first 5:30 minutes made me want to instantly subscribe to the channel. also, i think it would be cool if you reviewed wangan midnight (if you ever feel like it)

[@mikoji123]

ahh yes wangan midnight.. probably i only know until tier 2 or 3...

[@cobaltlukather9045]

at 27:45, who is to say that reddit user "wanked" isn't the Shuichi Shigeno that created Initial D, and is giving us hidden canon? after all, given the non-racing mangas he created, the username kinda checks out.

[@juliet6732]

Oh my god I am so late…. yet I laughed my ass off whenever you edited something funny or made a joke! The Tsugumi part had me crying! You gained a new subscriber! Keep up the good work! Looking forward for your next videos (on different topics or Initial D) :)

[@insid3493]

How is bunta still alive, there's only 3 seens throughout the entirety of initial D that he isn't smoking or lights a smoke

[@DailyLifeSolution]

Some smokers live long enough

[@LJW1912]

I'm so unbelievably grateful I watched the Funimation version bc that Tokyo Pop version sounds horrendous

[@zathistory]

As much as I love eurobeat, when you called it "gay techno music" I laughed to the point of tears for a solid 2 minutes. Thanks for making my day just a little better.

[@radoangelov1963]

He wasnt reffering to eurobeat when he said that. The tokyo pop version took out the eurobeat so he was talking about the music they put in its place

[@GhoulCityOnline]

just saw this, i was talking about the eurobeat when I said gay techno music

[@HolisticHealth-PMS]

I'd like to add that the TP version of Initial D also mirrored the footage so that they drove on the right side of the road.

[@Hey_Vas]

Thats wild, never knew this

[@datboi8197]

Did anyone notice that the mirror clipped the other mirror at 2:16 ? 😂

[@GhoulCityOnline]

HOLY SHIT I DIDN'T

[@heyya3207]

First iceberg video I've seen where its actually funny

[@fumoffu1]

47:52 Is there a doujinshi of Bunta being a druglord? Asking for myself

[@GhoulCityOnline]

It's possible, I don't exactly know where to search for doujins besides the website I was on, plus so many are lost and almost all are in Japanese. I'm sure there's a whole bunch of crazy initial d doujins out there

[@fumoffu1]

@@GhoulCityOnline I will look around and tell you guys if I find one...

[@mrdorifto]

I didn't think I would find out so much stuff I didn't know about initial D! You're a legend man.

[@Alexifeu]

I love Initial D. Yet I've never watched it. I read some of the manga and some of the Anime but not so much. I do want to buy the complete anime and watch it tho. I HAVE PLAYED THE ARCADE STAGE with friends it was so much fun. I also play the PlayStation 2 version on PC. :) i even live nexto a initial d machine but now it costs 1€ per game. I love everything related to initial d I also played the densha games.

[@letop710]

Hey! The best iceberg out there. no cap Maybe one thing you missed is the very recent Initial D Sound Files vinyl that was released in february, not much people know about it, I wouldn't call it obscure as you can still buy it, but Initial D sound files on a vinyl is pretty funny.

[@GhoulCityOnline]

I did come across it during my research, but I assumed it was a bootleg thing and not official

[@Pericles_89]

48:06 NAHHHHHHHHH over 3000????????? what the hell?

[@GhoulCityOnline]

3000 is probably on the lower end tbh.

[@WisteriaBerlitz]

As someone who loves trivia, I thoroughly enjoyed this video, learnt a lot 👍 I grew up in the 2000s watching Malaysia's boxed Initial D DVD releases. Awful English subs, but good enough to understand paired with my limited Japanese knowledge 😂 Used to spend loads of money in Arcade Stage 4 until Wangan Midnight completely took over in Singapore

[@N_I_R_N_A_S_H_A_K]

Hey there's actually more initial d doujin some of mako sato and apparently there's an doujin series which features hilarious funny initial d short comics at the end irrelevant to the orignal plot it's just there

[@Suzuki-SwiftSport]

The AE86 is the car that is reknowned for quite literally birthing/popularising the drifting motorsport with Keichi Tsuchiya's drift tape. The car from stock was essentially perfect to turn into a low budget race car because of the 50-50 weight distribution and the 4aGE engine which kept up with even civics from the early to mid 90s. The car was cheap during the 90s-00s and were extremely popular in the drifting sport because the live axle rear end design in the car made it exceptionally easy to drift even with the relatively low hp engine (the engine has low hp but is still a super fun engine and reliable cause the car is still a fucking corolla)

[@PLifted]

This will be viral... At least in our community. I think mf ghost might be good as its own thing. The manga wasn't as bad as most say imo and I hope they dont kill too much of the original.

[@genericexcuse4737]

If the touch up on a few things and have the anime take itself a bit more seriously for some parts, it might be a pretty decent anime.

[@miscstuff7824]

Shigeno Shuichi was born in Matsunoyama, Japan. They have (had?) a small Initial D shrine in the visitor center. The local ski resort also had Initial D ski/snowboarding posters.

[@greekswaglord-dathistoryla201]

The fast car God has returned, good shit my man, same thing for the Gamer video you did. (Also, favourite eurobeat is golden age @ me motherfuckers)

[@Official_MikeyT]

Shigeno's personal car is in Gran Turismo, and has been since GT3. It is built to the same spec as Takumi's car.

[@GhoulCityOnline]

It's in all of them? I thought it was just in GT3?

[@leepicgaymer5464]

​@@GhoulCityOnlineI bought it in GT7

[@Warbaman]

My first knowledge of Initial D (which is now still my 2nd favourite anime) was about a year after the live action film came out i ended up round some actual Triad dudes flat in the south of England have some drinks and he asked if any of us had heard of it cause he loved it... sat on his floor and watched this movie on a tiny TV and have been in love ever since!

[@wildhogOW]

Funnily enough, the GT86's license plate is also the release date for the MF Ghost anime, September 2023. That is pure coincidence, but it's funny nonetheless.

[@Pwndaz]

I've got a fun one: Initial D Limited Stage. It was a limited run mail-order only Initial D Tomica (which would have been fun to include with Hot Wheels, as Tomica has a bunch of old Initial D die cast car models they've put out and continue to put out) box set of 6 of the cars: the AE86, AE85, FC, FD, S13, and Sileighty, each with a plaque of the car name and with a little character blurb on the side in a neat little package. I managed to score one for super cheap when I visited Japan earlier this year in pretty decent shape from a used anime figure store, and I'm probably going to keep it forever. I also just own a bunch of Tomicas as a result of this show in general now.

[@smashkiller64]

Here’s one you missed. The KZbinr DriftHunterAlbo (now goes by ALBO) found and met the real person that Takumi was based on. He even drives the Subaru that Bunta drives in the manga and not the anime.

[@tommykhong6148]

Bro theres so many things i wanna add to this iceburg but im towards the end so ill mention: Ive played both the flash games but more of the one made for the Hong Kong film! They used to be on Y3 or Y8 (even now, whatever U8 is called, its still on there). I played them for the first time back in 2007, i was only 5. Revisited it again when i was 12 and actually beat the game that time. Had to memorize where all the gutters were and since the game played by frame, i practically had Akina memorized lol. It actually took some skill to play and slowly you could upgrade the AE86.

[@GhoulCityOnline]

What's u8? Is that a website? Can you post a link? And feel free to comment more things you want to add. I'll probably be doing a bonus iceberg layer eventually and fill it with stuff people have been suggesting in the comments here.

[@wr1ght939]

Great video! Love your presentation and research! I think the 86 is a popular platform because it’s(was) cheap, RWD, and it has massive aftermarket support.

[@dino7968]

Now, i need an Iceberg on Wangan Midnight!!

[@nickelassilvandi6871]

9:51 Did you know that the AE86 which appeared in JoJo Part 4, particularly in the manga, actually PRECEDED Initial D's manga release? JoJo Part 4's manga run was between 1992 - 1995 which is before Initial D's manga run between 1995 - 2013. *So is the AE86 also JoJo reference?*

[@GhoulCityOnline]

Oh shit whoops I didn't know that the 86 was in the Jojo Manga lol

[@naruniauwu861]

Very entertaining video, i enjoyed listening to commercial break sounds while switching to next tier

[@TheBigJizz]

Running in the 90s is the opening song to the whole series, where we first see the 86 going all out. Not knowing who the driver is or anything. Big moment

[@GhoulCityOnline]

I'll be honest, I forgot it plays during the race, I thought it debuted during the nakazato race. But for me, a big moment would be like forever young when the blind attack happens or beat of the rising sun when takumi beats ryosuke. Running is the 90s is definitely a cool needle drop, But like it doesn't have any sort of like "OOOH THIS IS WHEN THAT HAPPENS " moment.

[@Miguelmartinez-kv5po]

No, it’s Space Boy tight ass scene tho

[@gabbytheboy69420]

6:05 until one day, a channel on KZbin called initialdweeb posts all the eps from stage 1 to 4. What a Chad

[@alan64047]

Initial D without watching the other stages is like having an ice cream without a stick to hold it also who the fcking idiot that would stop at first stage!?

[@Kosoku63]

I will instantly watch any initial d video made by this guy Although one thing with the takumi shinji brothers theory, in the first stage ending credits scene, it shows red+white combo coloured racing gloves in the driver seat of the ae86. Shinji’s dad has black hair, and also wears a red+white combo coloured racing suit. Obviously, racing suits and gloves would be colour matched. Probably just a coincidence, but I wanted to put this out there. Also, in the lonely driver legend audio CD, Kenji wins by doing a FREAKING GUTTER RUN.

[@nekonekzy6944]

Good video and actually learnt stuff i didn't before, especially when the entire country of Singapore suddenly transported to South Korea

[@BickSnarf]

I like that time code at 14:53 in the video is when you're saying the time code to skip to is 14:53. Also it's one of the most replayed sections in your video along with 10:07, nice. Also 15:06

[@fluxots7603]

I'm so used to stumbling upon shitty iceberg videos with 0 effort or enthusiasm, so this is a breath of fresh air. Great video!

[@GhoulCityOnline]

Hell yeah

[@whosleng]

This video reminded me how much my childhood revolved around Initial D. I remember when gaming arcades were still a thing, and almost every one had a Initial D Arcade machine there. I spent too much time and money playing those machines lol. I also remember playing Mountain vengeance, and having the rc cars. The good old times 🥲

[@RazerTheDuck]

densha de d believe it or not was how i was introduced to initial d, living in japan and having a liking for the trains at the age of 5 was inevitably going to lead me to the thought “hey i should look at videos of trains i ride race”

[@RestlessFisher]

I mean fair fucking play to Shirashi, imagine your father or mother dating someone your age

[@MarySmith-hv5ur]

I have a weird experience with the initial D trading card, when I was a kid, I think my dad brought a bag of stuff that kinda just contained random stuff that I don't know where it came from, one of the things it had was the trading card game, I remember just looking at the cards and thinking they were interesting but didn't know anything about initial D or how to play them, the thing is, they kinda just got lost soon after, I don't know, they literally disappeared. Many years later (but a few years ago by now) I kinda just remembered about those cards and how they had the Initial D logo on the back and had anime characters, by then I already knew what anime was so I looked it up to see if "initial D" was an anime and that's how I first discovered the anime and watched the entirety of it (I think it was when the final stage had been recently released too, so I got to watch the entire thing). To this day I still wonder where the cards went

[@Jessie-vg8fk]

First iceberg theory I’ve seen the whole way through thanks for the video

[@RyuusanFT86]

As a huge nerd with a love hate relationship with the series for almost 20 years now, I appreciate this. I can safely say I didnt need this iceberg, but I love me some validation. Cant wait for MF Ghost as someone who's in a weird transitional period in my life where I'm relating more to Kanata than Takumi.

[@spikmaster18]

I'm still wondering....why there is a laptop during 1980s, and its Ryosuke's Laptop

[@No1DaRay]

I had to listen to the one with Takumi's mom and Bunta bc it was really nice, it sounds like something you see in initial d

[@Mr.Engine993]

Reasons AE86 is loved so much: It was meant to be the poor man's sports car, starting at 7K (around 15-20K in today's money) It is super lightweight at just 950kg. Try finding anything below 1.5tons nowadays The engine was powerful for the time and also super reliable (it's a Toyota, of course it would be) Because it had to be cheap, it had live axle suspension instead of the safer, more comfortable independent suspension found in more expensive cars. All that, combined with LSD (Limited Slip Differential, what did you think I was talking about?) made it incredibly easy to drift. It also looked like a barely moving piece of junk so that you could smoke rich bois that base their entire personality around the fact that they are rich. Keiichi Tsychia (I probably spelled his name wrong) the Drift King himself drove one and the car basically skyrocketed in popularity because it was finally given a chance to show what it's got (everything I mentioned above)

[@ComfortsSpecter]

Incredible Work You’re Editing Is Amazing Thank You Great Man Great Presentation Really Put’s almost Everything outside The Show besides The Music in Perspective Beautiful

[@chazhartwayne6493]

Yakuza 5's Taxi missions better be in this as they are 100% an Initial D parody.

[@jaxx1360]

9:03 glad you mentioned the steven universe reference I wasn’t sure if much other people got that but I did.