Can Modern Pioneers Survive A Year As Pioneers

[@Jprid]

When Reagen was elected, I lost every means of supporting my family. Dad had 200 acres between the Salmon and snake rivers in Getta Creek Canyon. I took my family and live there in the winter of 1981 to improve his property. The first thing I did was build an outhouse, then ran 400’ pipe up the creek for pressurized water. Built a chimney and hooked up a wood stove with a copper coil and had hot showers. My oldest was 8. My wife WAS NOT an outdoors helper. We had bears traipsing around our cabin. Going potty was. Two person event at night. But we were 3 hours from the small town of Cottonwood. We only came out once. Still have the photos. My oldest is 50 this year.

[@MissGracieLove]

Why not a bedpan for nighttime.?

[@ashercohen387]

That’s is amazing.

[@justme-dm7sb]

Thats how you get stuff done !

[@airreaper1]

They should have given them a 1-2 week training period where they teach them everything they would need to know. You would have probably learned from childhood back in that era

[@catherineleslie-faye4302]

Yeah, I'm thinking they set the experament up all wrong. The sponsors could have placed all the candidates in a 4 week training program to teach them the basics of life in the 1870s; to see if any of them had the good health to do the whole year on the farm before selecting from the large group of candidates those who would go on to the farm site.

[@prairiewolf05]

The thing is, most people heading out into the west (or in this case north west lol) had the same amount of knowledge. Many passed away from lack of knowledge. It was definitely a sink or swim thing, the show 1886 highlights that pretty well with the nieve group that they tried to lead on the Oregon trail.

[@catherineleslie-faye4302]

@@prairiewolf05 No they would have known all the basic life skills of the people of the 1860s and would expect things to be hard in a way modern people in the USA and Canada do not. I do know the difference becaue my grandparents born in the 1890s and 1900s taught me those skills in the 1960s.. I've lived a frontier life and though nothing of hauling water a half mile to the cabin my husband and I put up without power tools every day.

[@prairiewolf05]

@catherineleslie-faye4302 not necessarily! My great grandad was a trapper, he followed the line into canada and him and my great grandma lived in a sod house by moose jaw. She told me stories of living there, grandad and my great aunts and uncles tell the stories of growing up on the prairie, great grandma was the midwife of the region as well, I have her notebook of who was born and what was paid or bartered for her services. My neighbor is in her 90s and was a teacher here too. Many came out this way only to die because they had no clue what they were doing. Many came from the city thinking to strike it rich or lured by the idea of their own land. My grandad was a cowboy as well, it was a hard life and there are still old ladies out here who haul their own water. I live in an area that isn't far removed from that lifestyle and the stories the old timers tell of the incompetent that came is pretty interesting.

[@catherineleslie-faye4302]

@@prairiewolf05 OK so how much of what your grandparents and your greatgrandparents had for skills were you taught growing up? Did you learn to card wool for spinning and milk cows then churn the milk to make butter in the dairy as I did? Have you traveled in a covered wagon and had to gather firewood and haul water in the wilderness before you could cook any meal for that day? Being told how things were is all fine and good, but hands on experiences are another whole different reality from hearing stories.

[@roostershooter76]

PBS did a series “Frontier House” back in 2000 that was really good as well. Worth a watch!

[@kayhenry6293]

I watched that and, boy, was it eye opening!

[@raimeyewens7518]

I remember that. Karen was not very likable but I liked the show.

[@brittanymaloney6153]

I wish they would make more seasons. They also did one called Colonial House.

[@Itsme_isabelly]

Ive watched this entire show. It's really good. Its free on prime video....edit. it's not free on prime anymore..Sorry. It was at one point. But it is free on KZbin

[@PacNorthOR]

What’s it called?

[@crossbowman100]

@@PacNorthOR pioneer quest. it is showing $1 per epiosde on prime for me, but i found it for free on tubi tv

[@Itsme_isabelly]

@PacNorthOR Pioneer Quest

[@Madleesus2579]

Thanks!! I was gonna be upset with just this.

[@davidgreene8914]

It’s actually not free unfortunately.

[@deanasnarky3903]

The fact that they all threw a fit right from the beginning was not a good sign.

[@lyndseyfifield]

Horrific that Pat and Tom had their dream destroyed by false charges (he was acquitted - but not after being publicly accused in such a horrific and embarrassing way).

[@Angela-ne9cy]

Sad that Pat passed away a few years ago, too. Tom really has endured some hard times.

[@lruss5050]

Pat and Tom were way better choices. I was not a fan of the couple who replaced them. It ruined the show for me. I really liked the young couple though!

[@controlfoodcontrolthepeopl5627]

What happened

[@davidbamford4721]

The original pioneers were brought up in a lifestyle that is much harder than people now could replicate.

[@tendymancommeth]

have you ever met the old order amish?

[@exodusfamilybelize]

@@tendymancommeth yes I was a midwife to 2 communities, they definitely use modern conveniences.

[@joycejudd5109]

yes. however, there's tons more information that we all "just know" through the books we read and the shows we've watched. But knowing - and living through - brings wisdom with it, and that's what they will lack strongly.

[@FerdinandAugustinus-j6t]

If l was in production team, l would have said "lets give them taste a little bit (for short time periods) to test things out before sending them (relatively) blindly to nowhere".

[@metaphoricallyspeaking45]

We watched this when it originally aired and we bought the DVDs. Every once in awhile we pull out the DVD player to watch it again. Frontier House had nothing on this. They had a lot of perks this one didn’t and they didn’t actually have to stay the winter.

[@raimeyewens7518]

I wish they had the Frontier House stay for the winter. They just had them get ready for it.

[@leahvaris769]

Here❤ happy new year everyone! ✨️

[@tripleS1906]

I found this series on KZbin many years ago but couldn't find it again! So glad Absolut History is putting this on their channel!

[@noregrets7469]

Episode 1: Got my interest so I’ll tag along and hopefully this channel will continue as well. As for what’s ahead the good old days come with a lot of back breaking work but I hope they stick with it.

[@FerdinandAugustinus-j6t]

There was sort of same kind of series of living in iron age village in England several decades ago. l wish to see that series some day.

[@latudorfrancaise6052]

I think you may be thinking of Tudor Monastery Farm, it's on KZbin. There's a range of series based on the same thing in different time periods

[@FerdinandAugustinus-j6t]

Those historic farmstead during a year were great series made by professional historians. l checked what l originally meant: "Livin in the past 1978"

[@GS-dc4dt]

FerdinandAugustinus, If I remember correctly it ended up with one man doing most of the work and he collapsed because unlike in the Iron Age if you didn’t pull your weight you didn’t survive, the tv production team allowed the lazy ones to eat without earning it, it slowly stopped being authentic. A lot of Ruth Goodwins programmes living on the *****’ are very good.

[@jackiebuttnor8410]

Hmm I d9n't think I ever heard of that one. I wonder if it still exists somewhere.

[@jackiebuttnor8410]

Hmm I just looked it up here on YT. And there are, at least, some of the episodes here.

[@kikiwalker7718]

Love this. When will it play to see what happens in following them for a year?

[@thrillcker68]

I watched the whole series when it was first released. It really showed some of the hardships our ancestors endured as pioneers.

[@prairiewolf05]

Yall gotta remember, most pioneers that came outt were NOT raised in the farming lifetlstyle. Many were from over seas, or from the city. Many passed due to nievity and lack of skills. Many were lead by experienced trail guides and still didnt make the journey. A great highlight of this is the show 1886. My great grandfather was a trapper who followed the line into canada and met my great grandmother along the way, they had a sod house by moose jaw thats still standing. My great grandma used to tell stories of living there and then when they moved back to the states. There are people here who still remember living without running water and electricity, having to walk to a small country school in bitter temps. Many said their parents didnt realize how hard it would be out here, especially with winters so long and months of sub 0 temps with wind chills of much lower. The production team did a great job by NOT teaching these people.

[@katherinegeddie7687]

The first pioneers had a huge advantage: 1. They already milked cows, cared for, and butchered animals for food. 2. Dug wells or hauled water 3. They were used to the simple hand tools. 4. They were used to the building and farming methods. 5. They were used to the old food preservation methods. 6. Many had a knowledge of helpful herbs and wild eatable plants. The new pioneers had land that was more ready for farming, and they knew this was NOT their permanent way of life. If they make it, they make a lot of 💰.

[@SyKnife]

Yeah, they should’ve had a two week boot camp to at least get some callouses and a few muscles worked out. This seems a counterproductive to have them start so far behind where actual settlers would start.

[@LP-ck6qx]

I agree that some training would have definitely helped. But, not all of the pioneers were used to farming. Many were escaping the horrid conditions in the cities and were even more clueless than the people on these shows. Others had a downturn in their economic situation and may have had domestic help and purchased all their food before the move, so familiar with the theory but not at all used to the practices. Those who were from similar circumstances definitely had a easier time of it and I can definitely see why those with farming/hunting/herbal knowledge were so sought after during pioneer times.

[@randil3208]

So early 🎉 happy new year everyone!

[@quackduck51]

i have never seen " I can do this no problem " turn into a mess so fast

[@mydogsareneat]

The PLOT TWIST. Brother what the heck

[@brim89]

I have milked cows, picked cotton and vegetables when I was a kid to earn money for the family since we were poor. I can hunt, fish, set traps, make a shelter from trees, make a garden each year, have raised chickens and rabbits.

[@ReclusiveEagle]

This is not what the Pioneers had to go through. They were already used to this way of life and most of them grew up around farm living with generations of knowledge supporting them even if they were immigrants. In this series they need to learn everything from animal husbandry to food preservation and construction and farming from scratch with no help and are not physically conditioned for these tasks. That's why they have so many blisters and problems breaking ground. Its like if 150 years from now there is a TV show about "cars" and "computers". So they drop people who have never seen a car or a computer into a car and say "Good luck driving and interacting with the PC". They needed at least 3 years for this. 2 to learn and 1 to survive properly. Shows like this mean well in their attempts to educate the public on what life was like. But no one on the show has any experience in any of this. Not the directors not the participants. Life was hard but it was not this hard. It would be impossible to survive like this without help.

[@controlfoodcontrolthepeopl5627]

Most of these participants have no experience. Set up to fail.

[@controlfoodcontrolthepeopl5627]

My thoughts exactly.

[@sarahmill6963]

I hope you put up more episodes

[@Angie-jg4nz]

It will be at least a year, for Helene survivors. The forgotten Americans.

[@LeslieStinson-ld2fo]

Seems like June is to late of start to plow and have a garden.. April would have been a proper start

[@Brocka08]

Season 1 of this show, called Pioneer Quest, is free on Tubi

[@Quarantina237]

Part 2?

[@Lili-xq9sn]

KZbin channel "Down the Rabbit Hole" has all the episodes. The series is called The Pioneer Quest"

[@Lael1]

How do i see the entire series? I watched frontier house and that was awesome. Too bad we don't film similar things in the USA what is the name of the series?

[@BMinquaGrl]

Tubi has Season 1 called Pioneer Quest.

[@Lael1]

@BMinquaGrl thank you

[@chezzcake45]

They really went overboard with the added sound effects! The production crew must not have gotten to work on a lot of stuff shot outdoors.

[@aimeeOB]

I’m worried about the horses.

[@SuperWhatapain]

Interesting 🎉

[@freakinfrugal5268]

Oh poor Pat!

[@cagraves2627]

Ok, now what about the rest of the episodes?!

[@o.h.w-ok]

9:58 her face 😂 said “oh god no”

[@EmilyDowling-o8f]

True pioneers the ingalls, Charles, Caroline, Mary, Laura, Caroline and Grace

[@williamharvey8895]

Bwah ha ha😂, that's how I live now😂😂😂. The only thing I couldn't handle would be the winter. Live south of Mason Dixon line. I am going to pray for them. ❤❤❤ my heart goes out to them.

[@mojavebohemian814]

Ditto, but northrast AZ

[@debbylou5729]

A road? Coolers? No idea of what to do first? City people

[@lovisaricks9168]

I wish I could join the team!

[@marcdavis4509]

Thanks for putting in a show that wrapped 25 years ago.

[@Lili-xq9sn]

At least we don't have wait a year to find out how it ends. Lol

[@Catherine-ty8ss]

Soak your hands in salt water to toughen them. Pioneers knew this kind of knowledge. They drank weak vinegar tea in summer. It was good for your stomach and replaced salt. Making lye soap from ashes was common knowledge. Putting cold ashes around the bottom of your house and on window sill kept pests out of your house.

[@PaulaakaPaben]

Other then Having Electricity and building on A Bathroom When I was 5 years old, I still remember using The outhouse and A slop pail at Night! That was in the early to Mid 50's! We did have tractors and cars, but Milked cows and did chores 2 x every day! It was A Hard life but A rewarding one! I remember when I was 14 and Delivered my first calf alone ! I wrote about it in A note in class to A friend that was A Boy, The Sub Teacher thought it was A Love letter, took it to read out loud, read it first and told me I was Weird! Same Sub Teacher asked us all what we planned to do when we grew up, saved me for last, Me being A Tiny Blue eyed Blonde , asked if I wanted to be a Movie Star, I laughed and said I was going to Marry me A Farm Boy , have A Family ,and stay on the Farm, He told me I was Weird! I Married A City Boy that had ties to the Farm , Worked The Railroad and owned A Garbage Business and we lived on An Acreage with 5 Now grown children! Now they are scattered with over 40 of us!

[@sarahhall738]

Great great grandfather took his family to the Canadian plains they were pioneers but the crops failed they moved to flushing meadows and he died in a shooting accident and the family returned to England.

[@ltvanburen8555]

How do I find the first episode?

[@labhrais6957]

When was this filmed? Early 2000s?

[@bernardkealey6449]

©️2000

[@veledakelly6940]

Rez Native Americans are from this century and also from a world of bare basic living. No indoor pumbling, no electricity, no grocery stores. REZ Indians this experience would be normal. I can't remember a hogan, teepee, or log home ever flooding.

[@eluna34]

Holly Jesus no background check?

[@trejea1754]

At 9:06 he says there’s a police check & psych tests

[@SyKnife]

The charges were just brought against him in the morning they were leaving. Which makes me wonder why they didn’t say anything to the producers beforehand. What the heck.

[@eluna34]

@@trejea1754 ya and you would think someone who commits sexual assault would show some disturbing signs on those tests.

[@eluna34]

@@SyKnife also the production reaction was wild 'we aren't judging'. The early 2000s were wild!

[@KristyJean]

the charges were dropped. It appears that the person lied.

[@brian-xf2cf]

How many people had every Perfect Tool they needed even nowadays. Some had used tools . Some had more tools . Some had less tools. So I had to make your own handles when it had the right ones

[@evaleeturner4414]

Watching the show why don't they at least have the horses under a tarp an a lentu

[@Thebradycarroll]

kzbin.info/aero/PLwyhDyJ3VORatOwFFy4Gi-lPR0LkMW3Ds&si=091y7Kc5rpFsnScR If you don't want to wait for who knows how long for the next episode

[@mrs.g7795]

Thanks so much

[@timothyhume3741]

Holy crap I can not believe how little people today actually know how to live from or off the land. Look, I am 76 this year and I am still living very much the way our pioneer forefathers lived even h. I never gave up, I still work with horses and other livestock, still grow my own food and cut my own firewood. The next great pandemic will most certainly take down 90% of the population. Perhaps will be only the elders who survive. Cheers. My kids got me a computer so I could stay in touch with the world and I am but are the rest of you?

[@meangreanbean]

"only the elders" and then you'll die out too wtf lol

[@grimrot]

Would you like an award? I'm 30 and grow/hunt/forage for the majority of my own food. Typical boomer mentality to think you're the only ones capable of doing it.

[@joshuasmith4547]

You need 1 generation older! No one told them a blister is the start of the callus you’ll never have to worry again

[@Nitrobucket]

Tom and Pat got news about the sexual charges on the day they were setting off. You can totally tell how frazzled they were after that

[@fandoria09]

I know I would. I grew up on a full working farm. It was first established in 1882. My parents, 2 older brothers and I moved into the farmhouse in 1976. It's located out side the village of Glenford, Ohio. We were responsible for helping the farm and land owner with the farm upkeep being he was 76 years old at the time. His parents bought the land and built the farm. He was born in early 1899 passing in 1999, at 99 years of age. We grew grains, vegetables, herbs and fruits. Helped with the livestock and poultry. Hand milked the cows. Did our own butchering. The milk was given to us for free as was the beef , pork and chicken meats. The eggs were free as well. We did have running water in the home which our landlord installed in the 1930s. But our water was from the natural spring house. We'd bring grains for our own flour. So it would be easy for me to live like a pioneer. I pretty much grew up as one.

[@MissX905]

Look at the shape and condition of the tent they go to sleep in and then the tent (1 they exit) in the morning. Those 2 tents are not the same, hmmm

[@MissX905]

33:18-33:23

[@jewlzt7331]

They covered that in the video. Said they made it wrong and had to redo the entire thing.

[@MissX905]

@@jewlzt7331 Not during the night tho. The way it looked in the video that shot of the tent all nice is right after their 1st sleep in it.

[@GeorgieGirl1028]

They were complaining about blisters with in 24hrs?!🤣

[@simonsonjh]

De-interlace the video.

[@michaelrogers3947]

Well I hope they are allowed to hunt regardless of the season if the animals are in season or not or it won't be real.

[@evaleeturner4414]

I think Pat n Tom should have told them n never went I be mad that they new they wouldn't be able to stay having to go to Court .

[@theodoorfisher9410]

i watched this show

[@thetroll1247]

You got the wrong people sorry.

[@rebeccaparkin5220]

Looks like a good show, but there are probably some experiences that won't be the same as the settlers. They only had to travel 8 km to get there, I imagine the settlers would have travelled hundreds of miles to get there. Also not likely to be attacked by wolves etc or natives.

[@2flewover1]

Great idea. Nowhere near enough money.

[@MarkRandall-f2r]

nice

[@joecanis484]

If born and raised in the city, NOOOOOOO!!!

[@jeanleveille5319]

Really interesting. But the trees are already cut and the stumps removed, it took 10 years before having big cattle, before 10 years, raising big cattle was not possible.

[@cindylong624]

They would have had pigs to root around the tree stumps,eat ,poop and break up the soil.Til then either you are buying the corn meal and flour or trading with those who have those items.It would take some time to convert that grassland into farmland

[@francesbernard2445]

😂After growing up 5/7 of the time in the city I know for a fact that at age 68 now I cannot do it all over again with help in 1977 let alone with far less in a 19th century setting instead while at first being forced migrants I know that I would't make it. After going thru a lot of urban cowboy caused more modern day 1970's testing first.

[@theodoorfisher9410]

why did go on. No shows after the first year. Why

[@thetroll1247]

Is this actually a test and show or a "REALITY ' SHOW ? Cause the points you point out aren't a concern for the ones that really know. Many different comments live primative.

[@evaleeturner4414]

You take care of your animals before working about a tent there your Life Source

[@evaleeturner4414]

One Big Difference you can't re-create the true pioneers were looking for a better life n making a permanent home in the back of there heads there not thinking about it being over n a year

[@mangot589]

Just from the headline? No. It’s a hella lot harder now. They don’t know how to farm. Nobody has no bloody idea to do anything anymore but go to the store.

[@charliedavis8894]

Even if there wasn't a court date, that older couple wouldn't have made it past the first week. In a real life situation as pioneers on the trail they, and their animals, would be dead within the first month or sooner. A good wagon master would have put them at the end of the wagon train to fall behind until they couldn't catch up and they succumbed to Indians or wild animals. Shame on them for wasting everyone's time and money!

[@sherriatsavinh4995]

Nope, not the new gen

[@Madleesus2579]

Exactly! No way. Most have never even mowed a lawn or cooked.a real meal from scratch. In less than 50 years technology has wiped all chance of human survival without it. It's pathetic, really.

[@sherriatsavinh4995]

@Madleesus2579 yes as most dont know how to male change from $10 bill without a calculator! I know, I had to do for her....

[@evaleeturner4414]

You can't re-create being born into this life , In second show there really sick for city people there not that sick there tired but they don't have the Built up bodies needed they don't have the Built up musel , an it's redicouse having just the one couple in the begging lol Pat n her husband really should have never started knowing they would have to back out , Who leaves a 15 year old to go on a adventure am sorry your child is your first responsibility not your dream of being a pioneer we can't always do things we want after having kid's , My concern would be there not putting the animals before everything .

[@susanyates4233]

One hopeful wearing a yellow top on a farm???

[@Upuauta]

OMG how dumb and unfair can you be to attend such an adventure when you know you´re in trouble....

[@EmilyDowling-o8f]

And no brushing your teeth it was not common back then, sick well sorry no hospital or Dr nearby, some tribes were hostile like the Pawnee, Comanche, Kiowa, Blackfoot they were very hostile

[@krystinaland4137]

I'm sorry but the way Tom hugged his grandson and made MADE him give him a kiss as the kid was squirming, had me looking at him some kind of way then the claim of sexual abuse of a family friend 😮😮😮

[@DanthemsmloverMSM-iz1zv]

Here

[@mojavebohemian814]

The simple life, haaahaha.

[@henchy3rd]

Simply, no. They’ve tried time & time again & there’s always some who hide modern food or electronics, not only that, health & safety wouldn’t let them live like that.

[@joecanis484]

What pioneers had a psychologist come by to provide counseling for their anguish? Everything seems to be provided and set up for their success. No live or die consequences for this fake reality show.

[@SyKnife]

Well, there was the plot twist of s a allegations. The psychologist came because of that.

[@evaleeturner4414]

I don't like the second couple am sorry a kitchen with shelves bla bla are you serious that would be a argument n his wive needs to start helping get stuff done stop doing stupid crap cleaning up brush n worrying about shelf

[@nancywillaert5129]

First things I was learned from my grandma is shelter and place to cook. So I see how she was about that. When those heavy rains not easy to cook food, and in the tent one little mistake would leave them without a roof above their head. The wood that one clear away can be stocked up for firewood. The animals we had our goat stood on a line cleaning out weeds.

[@shell1951]

Maybe it was a false allegations because of - jealousy

[@SyKnife]

Does anyone know what happened with the allegations?

[@lindaannelineharwood4891]

They were dismissed.

[@nancywillaert5129]

@@lindaannelineharwood4891it’s sad that people are such bullies and for what? Some people don’t like it when someone lives their live and falsely accused is hard.

[@RickGrimes007]

Ready for whatever God brings my way!! Been pioneer all my life!! God's country 🙏🏻 🇺🇸 🌎

[@Z3nHolEminD]

God of the holy Bible’s country is currently being fought for > Jerusalem , you know where those angels fell and wrote this entire script

[@pamelas1002]

Amen!!

[@RickGrimes007]

@Z3nHolEminD yes Israel had them under their boot until JB KH!!

[@Kekimus]

Lol americans

[@sarahmill6963]

Pioneers were Pioneers. You're a homesteader

[@Steve-fe3vt]

Pioneers in the 1800s were born to this work. You can't take smucks from today and expect them to work like our ancestors . Bullshit show