Can Obi-Wan ROTS Beat Luke Skywalker ROTJ?

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Was Obi-Wan Kenobi from Revenge of the Sith more powerful than Luke Skywalker in Return of the Jedi?
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@StarWarsTheory
@StarWarsTheory Ай бұрын
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@lootwigvanwegen
@lootwigvanwegen Ай бұрын
What do I need to do to get a free Obi-Wan Lightsaber? Its my favorite, but I can't afford one. Where does the raffle take place?
@altairtheeagle
@altairtheeagle Ай бұрын
I miss your older style vids talk X vs Y and lore
@StarvinitySaga
@StarvinitySaga Ай бұрын
👍 👍
@CT-9901
@CT-9901 Ай бұрын
Good old StarWars Theory is backkkkk!
@soldatintelectual6544
@soldatintelectual6544 Ай бұрын
Luke brought him back
@StarvinitySaga
@StarvinitySaga Ай бұрын
👍 👍
@jaytee6936
@jaytee6936 Ай бұрын
@@soldatintelectual6544lol
@tanky4156
@tanky4156 Ай бұрын
Yes!!!
@marshallthepupakathebricks2853
@marshallthepupakathebricks2853 Ай бұрын
Yes
@Kahuna_huh
@Kahuna_huh Ай бұрын
Yoda: lose would you? Obi wan: nah id win.
@BenAri18
@BenAri18 Ай бұрын
Scaling wise Luke wins but as the result of technology of the time it appears that Luke would lose
@SolidSnake240
@SolidSnake240 Ай бұрын
"Stand proud Luke, you are strong."
@michaeltabor2077
@michaeltabor2077 Ай бұрын
@@BenAri18Luke didn’t have the experience yet to win
@BenAri18
@BenAri18 Ай бұрын
@@michaeltabor2077 That's irrelevant George confirmed Luke is on Vaders level in Rotj who obviously scales above Obiwan in Rots cause Rotj is Vaders prime
@michaeltabor2077
@michaeltabor2077 Ай бұрын
@@BenAri18 & he also held back against his son! & yes it’s Disney! & I agree obi wan throwing rocks like he was YODA was ridiculous but was not is Vader was slower & couldn’t get his arms above his head. & while not a problem for bascislly any other Jedi, obi wan was just too fast for him & partially why he switched back to form 4 the thing that suit did for Vader in a beneficial way allowed him to take way more hits with a light Sabre like wearing football equipment or not 💯
@ViperAR-7
@ViperAR-7 Ай бұрын
Anakin: Well, if he had the high ground it might give me some trouble. Palpatine: But would you lose? Anakin: Nah, I'd win
@DarthVexar
@DarthVexar Ай бұрын
It’s a bit difficult to compare the power and skill of prequel and OT force users. The duels were portrayed so differently in each era because of the lack of technology during the OT.
@thomasthetank827
@thomasthetank827 Ай бұрын
It's easy. Luke is not on his level with sword skill or force ability At the dawn of the Empire, two Jedi masters had faced 2 Sith lords and lost. It seemed highly improbable that a Jedi still in training could defeat Vader and Palpatine in combat. But though Luke lacked Yoda And Obi wan's lightsaber skills, he possessed qualities they had lost sight of when they faced their Sith foes. Luke was not hampered by anger, or shame in the Jedi Order or himself. By the time he faced Palpatine, and the combined powers of master and apprentice, the key elements that set Luke apart were clarity of purpose and empathy." Skywalker: A Family at War Kristin Baver 2022 "To defend his master, Vader deflected Luke's attack. As they battled, Luke perceived the conflict blooming I'm Vaders heart, but the Sith Lord used Luke's openness against him, exposing his feelings for his friends and Leia in particular. Something in Luke broke as Vader claimed he would turn Leia into a puppet of the Sith if Luke resisted." "The savageness of Luke's attack surprised Vader, who was unprepared for Luke's explosive reaction." Skywalker: A family at war Kristin Baver 2022
@bradlees5997
@bradlees5997 Ай бұрын
Because of that OT Charcaters (except Vader) usually get downplayed massively
@PsychoKillertheGame
@PsychoKillertheGame Ай бұрын
Not just lack of tech, the media were at their peak in prequel. And in the words of GL "we'd never actually seen a jedi at their peak fight, all we had seen is old men and half crippled machines"
@robertbarrows6687
@robertbarrows6687 Ай бұрын
Dooku is kind of Obi-wan's perfect counter since the forms that Kenobi mastered were both torn apart by Makashi and Dooku was THE master of Makashi.
@aaronconway5404
@aaronconway5404 Ай бұрын
Don't forget that Obi Wan probably feels like he has to prove something to Dooku being Qui-gons apprentice.
@robertbarrows6687
@robertbarrows6687 Ай бұрын
@@aaronconway5404 That too. Hilariously Obi-wan did better against Dooku in AOTC than he did in ROTS. He still lost but had a much better performance against Dooku and had the badass blocking Force Lightning with a lightsaber moment.
@spotsthecat7913
@spotsthecat7913 Ай бұрын
​@@robertbarrows6687and sadly, Obi Wan still beats up badly in AoTC. It seems no matter how badass Obi Wan became, Dooku's status as Qui Gon's master and his Makashi mastery is his Kryptonite
@jaxsontuttle4932
@jaxsontuttle4932 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately Makashi is the only style that Obi Wan can’t beat and counter. The only style to defeat Makashi is Djem So which Anakin is the master of that style. That’s why Anakin beat Dooku because Makashi style can’t compete with Djem So it’s the Kyroptonite for Dooku and Dooku said “Skywalker is the greatest Master of Djem So I have ever seen” Anakin mastered both forms of Djem So and implemented and amplified it to his own fighting style which Dooku feared. I wish Obi Wan had a rematch that was better in ROTS.
@cherrytonshawty9120
@cherrytonshawty9120 Ай бұрын
I like how two of Obi-Wan's biggest losses were both to Dooku. I swear that old man could fight with vicious intent. Lol.
@oldgreymare3677
@oldgreymare3677 Ай бұрын
Agreed. I also think Count Dooku was uniquely suited to “disable” ObiWan, being the Master of ObiWan’s Master, QuiGon. That Dooku went to the Sith must have rankled ObiWan on a very deep level; plus, he may have felt that Dooku was intrinsically better such that ObiWan could not mount his normal level of defense. Count Dooku’s ability to use the Sith power (I forgot the name) of putting down opponents, thus mentally disabling them, was also unusually strong against ObiWan, whereas Anakin seemed unfazed by it. Thank you for this video!!! ❤
@rafailkordogiannis5370
@rafailkordogiannis5370 Ай бұрын
It's quite nice to see you make this type of content again. This is exactly the kind of stuff that made me like your channel in the first place. Please don't stop making videos like this.
@UchihaDZoro-se9pc
@UchihaDZoro-se9pc Ай бұрын
Obi wan is the very definition of “hard work beats talent, when talent fails to work hard”
@HeviNova
@HeviNova Ай бұрын
Has Theory seen "Skywalker Shadows of Evil"? It's one of the best fan made Luke fight scenes. Luke fights various different opponents. Great duels and variations.
@damarglover6363
@damarglover6363 Ай бұрын
You kept mentioning him not reacting to satine dying but ignored the fact that he lashed out in anger against Maul when he taunted the fact he killed Jinn with him even mentioning that his anger had unbalanced him. So he definitely has the trigger points to become unbalanced just like Luke does
@StarWarsTheory
@StarWarsTheory Ай бұрын
Was it pure anger? Or focus...
@damarglover6363
@damarglover6363 Ай бұрын
@@StarWarsTheory I just look back. He said your rage has unbalanced you
@Tocaraca
@Tocaraca Ай бұрын
He was much much younger there than he was in Revenge of the Sith
@damarglover6363
@damarglover6363 Ай бұрын
@@Tocaraca at best he was two years younger than episode 3 the clone wars was only 3 years long
@PrimusVenator
@PrimusVenator Ай бұрын
What are you talking about? The fight with Maul was in EP 1 not 2, and there are quite a few years in between EP 1 and EP 3, just look at Anakin's age difference...
@D-Cozy
@D-Cozy Ай бұрын
This.... this right here.... is the content that keeps me goin..
@sangumlinggi8330
@sangumlinggi8330 Ай бұрын
Obi wan would troll luke and then cut off his other good hand and burn or shock him then leave stealing his lightsaber while still trolling him. Good shit.
@sheevhernandez3869
@sheevhernandez3869 Ай бұрын
He could do that ngl😂
@joel5135
@joel5135 Ай бұрын
The only reason you are saying that is because ots choreography didn't age well
@stevindiesel
@stevindiesel Ай бұрын
@@joel5135not only that, Obi went through Jedi school, college, uni, did PhD’s, became Professor and then went out into the galaxy schooling the baddest mofos around, who were at their best. Luke comparatively had no quality practice in much less time. For Luke to display much more than he did with the same training would be less than Rey.
@Laundry_boi
@Laundry_boi Ай бұрын
Thanks for going back to this stuff theory!!!
@jakubwalag8776
@jakubwalag8776 Ай бұрын
I would like to see Kanan Jarus vs Baylan Skoll
@DrownedWick
@DrownedWick Ай бұрын
OOOOOOO
@abujordan8405
@abujordan8405 Ай бұрын
Why lol Baylan beat Ahsoka fairly easily and Ahsoka easily beats Kanan
@uninformedopinion1668
@uninformedopinion1668 Ай бұрын
Baylan Skoll vs Mace Windu
@tomridgway66
@tomridgway66 Ай бұрын
@@abujordan8405beat Ahsoka? Look at both of their duels. He was skilled sure but clearly was not Ahsokas equal. The only time he got any advantage was when Ahsokas hand was injured allowing to him leverage his strength even more effectively giving him the win. That injury doesn’t happen, Baylan would have been defeated no question. Against Kannan he def would win but Jarrus is not a complete push over and would atleast be able to hold his own even for a brief time.
@Jedioutcast
@Jedioutcast Ай бұрын
@@tomridgway66I mean nothing supports that claim, if she could’ve “easily” defeated him then she would’ve, and then she wouldn’t have ran from him on the second encounter.
@randomjester9983
@randomjester9983 Ай бұрын
Hey man! I used to watch your old theories, discussions etc on the Star Wars lore a couple years back and they were some of the best videos in the Star Wars scene imo. Funnily enough I only just remembered and went looking for this channel today, so I’m glad that your first video in a long while is back to these kinds of discussions. Please keep this going man!
@ace360
@ace360 Ай бұрын
Man I have missed these!!!! Thanks Genaral Theory 👏
@Nathan-ft7dj
@Nathan-ft7dj Ай бұрын
Please continue making videos like this, this is the kind of content I subscribed for
@Jackster1910
@Jackster1910 Ай бұрын
I really missed these classic Star Wars videos. Thanks Star Wars Theory :)
@SecretsHIS
@SecretsHIS Ай бұрын
This was such a refreshing video! Lore and fan fictions! I missed this man.
@Kmax_817
@Kmax_817 Ай бұрын
I feel like just the clip of Obi wan matching Anakin’s force push is enough to prove he would be at least equal to a provoked Luke, if not stronger
@gabrielcarrasco9078
@gabrielcarrasco9078 Ай бұрын
That was Anakin before relying on the force. But I get your point.
@volsxer3901
@volsxer3901 Ай бұрын
I saw someone saying that they believe that Obi-Wan didn't actually match Anakin at all, rather that Obi-Wan tried to "Force Push" him first , but Anakin countered with a matching force push and started overpowering him as Obi-Wan's hand goes back, however the force flung them both. I personally believe that have Anakin had a clear head at that moment, he would stomp Obi-Wan both with a Force and with the Lightsaber as he wouldn't try "it" Luke is on another level though.
@joel5135
@joel5135 Ай бұрын
Anakin never trusted in the force Like luke did. Anakin Always prefered the lightsaber
@MichaelJordanGoat2324
@MichaelJordanGoat2324 Ай бұрын
definitely not stronger lol
@012gage
@012gage Ай бұрын
Ah this video is refreshing. I miss these videos. Reminds me of the old times of the channel 🥺🙏🏾 thanks for this. I was curious about who would win between these 2 from your POV
@jedicouncil66
@jedicouncil66 Ай бұрын
Obi wins due to experience and knowledge.
@mikejackson3564
@mikejackson3564 Ай бұрын
Don't forget patience...
@lordvongg
@lordvongg Ай бұрын
Depends on which Luke. Legends Luke after the NJO series would whoop kenobis booty
@dereklopez9060
@dereklopez9060 Ай бұрын
And he has the High Ground.
@alejandroangel998
@alejandroangel998 Ай бұрын
Luke inherited Anakins impatience and lack of emotional control, though he had more control than Anakin ever did, that’s why he didn’t fall into the dark side
@billymitchell2810
@billymitchell2810 Ай бұрын
Obi is the best hands down
@flob8862
@flob8862 Ай бұрын
old school Theory, I like it
@xavierarnaz8442
@xavierarnaz8442 Ай бұрын
Honestly dude... I've been listening to your theories for years now and ive never msgd you but your star wars knowledge is 2nd to none and I think you should definitely working with dave filoni especially after them short vader movies you made .. and I don't care what anyone says about you, you seem like a really sound guy and like i said your star wars knowledge and theories are awesome and have got me through some hard times when i needed my mind to be in a galaxy far far away.. keep up the good work and make more what ifs too bro.. STW to make his own movie..... this is the way
@StarWarsTheory
@StarWarsTheory Ай бұрын
Thank you bro. I hope you'll enjoy Vader ep II and III
@benjaminmartindale
@benjaminmartindale Ай бұрын
i love these kind of videos! glad to see more of these!!
@starwarssith66
@starwarssith66 Ай бұрын
Broooo keep these coming. So much fun, inspired me to do something similar but different 💯💪🏻
@mbj920
@mbj920 Ай бұрын
It's the classic scenario of hardwork vs talent, and the saying goes: "hardwork beats talent"; with that logic in mind, Obi beats Luke. Obi is a veteran of wars and trained in the jedi council. If Luke had that same training and experience, it is a different outcome.
@GloominessEditz
@GloominessEditz Ай бұрын
Amazing! You really need to make more videos like this!!
@Bblue_light
@Bblue_light Ай бұрын
Amazing episode as always. It shows how potential alone isn't enough but combined with discipline, and experience this is the true potential. Thank you Theory for the video🌟
@DanielTheCamel
@DanielTheCamel Ай бұрын
Love these types of vids!
@jacobwegener8561
@jacobwegener8561 Ай бұрын
Here are some ideas 1 Kylo Ren VS Darth Maul 2 Starkiller VS Anakin 3 Mace Windu VS Kanan Jarrus 4 Ezra Bridger VS Luke Skywalker 5 Plo Koon VS Kit Fisto
@Quasarflux
@Quasarflux Ай бұрын
Answers (Logical) 1.Darth maul (No diff) 2.Anakin (High diff) 3.Mace windu (Mid diff) 4.Luke Skywalker (Low diff) 5.Plo koon (Mid diff)
@zrecvelesa6012
@zrecvelesa6012 Ай бұрын
No Yes Yes Yes Yes
@starwarsjaylon
@starwarsjaylon Ай бұрын
Prime Darth Plagueis vs Yoda is interesting. Considering if he defeated Sidious Yoda would have had to face him
@spencerkim5483
@spencerkim5483 Ай бұрын
Nice to see an old-style video back. Obi-Wan would be way too prepared to deal with raw power (Maul, Dooku, Ventress, & all the sparring matches with other Jedi Masters), let alone another Skywalker. Especially one that others say is like his father. I give Luke about two years of intense training and experience before he could even surprise Obi-Wan.
@xxwales15xx33
@xxwales15xx33 Ай бұрын
Before watching this video, I'd say Obi Wan in this scenario would win comfortably. Luke in ROTJ compared to Anakin in ROTS is less experienced and weaker. He's also less aggressive with his fighting style and I think that makes Luke more predictable to read.
@noahcobos-garrett3797
@noahcobos-garrett3797 Ай бұрын
One thing that could also give Obi Wan an edge- Obi Wan trained for years with Anakin, and a lot of Luke’s style was learned in active combat against Vader. While Anakin and Vaders style weren’t identical, I think they were similar enough that Obi Wan would be much more comfortable with Luke’s style than the other way around.
@alex17_edits
@alex17_edits Ай бұрын
The good old days are back please a next video of Darth Nihilus Vs Yoda
@kylo7699
@kylo7699 Ай бұрын
love hearing your voice and this music together again
@tanky4156
@tanky4156 Ай бұрын
Please make more of these types of videos! I really don't care for the News Videos or Disney videos you make, *I just like the good old classic nerdy star wars videos!*
@christimmis9784
@christimmis9784 Ай бұрын
Content like this is exactly why I fell in love with your channel, I hope to see many more vids like this 🥰🥰🥰
@TobyBoyd68
@TobyBoyd68 Ай бұрын
I am SOOO happy you’re doing these again! These are literally what brought me to the channel in the first place!
@hamidehh1416
@hamidehh1416 Ай бұрын
Oh yeah! OG Theory’s back!! Could u do a vid on Disney Boba Fett vs Ep 2 Jango? That would be spicy 🔥
@ethanragbir8311
@ethanragbir8311 Ай бұрын
Luke in ROTJ was stated to be equal to Vader in terms of dueling when they clashed. Vader had mastered all 7 forms of lightsaber combat and when Luke tapped into the darkside was able to overwhelm him. ROTJ Luke >= ROTJ Vader > ROTS Obi wan. Luke also pulled a star destroyer out of orbit in the comics post ROTJ.
@TheLegoBrit
@TheLegoBrit Ай бұрын
Rogue Squadron is back in production!
@thesleeplesscoben
@thesleeplesscoben Ай бұрын
Yeah I agree 100% with your reasoning. Obi Wan trained from his youth and was a veteran of a galactic war that lasted three years with numerous duels against some of the strongest dark side users (Maul, Savage, Ventress, Dooku and Vader to name a few), there's no way Luke can beat that kind of experience.
@AlbinoBenito
@AlbinoBenito Ай бұрын
I fully agree with this assessment. I think no matter the time though obi wan would always out skill Luke in lightsaber combat due to his formal training at the temple, where as Luke had limited training compared to other Jedis. though with the force Luke for sure would win
@thomasthetank827
@thomasthetank827 Ай бұрын
Even with the force, kenobi still wins, he's also a powerhouse force user. Plus: At the dawn of the Empire, two Jedi masters had faced 2 Sith lords and lost. It seemed highly improbable that a Jedi still in training could defeat Vader and Palpatine in combat. But though Luke lacked Yoda And Obi wan's lightsaber skills, he possessed qualities they had lost sight of when they faced their Sith foes. Luke was not hampered by anger, or shame in the Jedi Order or himself. By the time he faced Palpatine, and the combined powers of master and apprentice, the key elements that set Luke apart were clarity of purpose and empathy." Skywalker: A Family at War Kristin Baver 2022 "To defend his master, Vader deflected Luke's attack. As they battled, Luke perceived the conflict blooming I'm Vaders heart, but the Sith Lord used Luke's openness against him, exposing his feelings for his friends and Leia in particular. Something in Luke broke as Vader claimed he would turn Leia into a puppet of the Sith if Luke resisted." "The savageness of Luke's attack surprised Vader, who was unprepared for Luke's explosive reaction." Skywalker: A family at war Kristin Baver 2022
@estebanflores6132
@estebanflores6132 Ай бұрын
Since The Last Jedi more or less. Glad to see these type of videos again.
@damienerickson4182
@damienerickson4182 Ай бұрын
I agree with the verdict and the points for it. Well done
@christophergagne9116
@christophergagne9116 Ай бұрын
Yes the old videos are back!! Thank you theory!!!
@onescorcher5962
@onescorcher5962 Ай бұрын
Some suggestions I have for fantasy battles… Yoda vs Vader Mace vs Vader Yoda vs Anakin Luke vs Grevious
@bayramali8961
@bayramali8961 Ай бұрын
We missed you!❤
@hanktaft9872
@hanktaft9872 Ай бұрын
Love this type of video!
@alcatrazvongola
@alcatrazvongola Ай бұрын
I missed these dream duel videos! These are always so interesting to watch. 😊
@nicholasjenkins4533
@nicholasjenkins4533 Ай бұрын
Please do more of these!
@minimachomestead
@minimachomestead Ай бұрын
Its been said that Obi-Wan was the only one who could beat General Grievous in Revenge of the Sith. I'm not sure how true that actually is, so I propose a few videos of who is more powerful featuring General Grievous vs various Jedi like Yoda, Anakin, Windu, Luke, etc.
@just_joonster1784
@just_joonster1784 Ай бұрын
I always thought Luke wasn't up to scale in terms of combat with a lot of other Star Wars characters specifically because of the fight choreography in the main trilogy. I feel as though that if we could see a lightsaber duel with Luke, with prequel trilogy filmmaking techniques, he would come off as way more powerful.
@thomasthetank827
@thomasthetank827 Ай бұрын
Well now it's not needed, he didn't recieve the formal training to have the prequels style skill: At the dawn of the Empire, two Jedi masters had faced 2 Sith lords and lost. It seemed highly improbable that a Jedi still in training could defeat Vader and Palpatine in combat. But though Luke lacked Yoda And Obi wan's lightsaber skills, he possessed qualities they had lost sight of when they faced their Sith foes. Luke was not hampered by anger, or shame in the Jedi Order or himself. By the time he faced Palpatine, and the combined powers of master and apprentice, the key elements that set Luke apart were clarity of purpose and empathy." Skywalker: A Family at War Kristin Baver 2022 "To defend his master, Vader deflected Luke's attack. As they battled, Luke perceived the conflict blooming I'm Vaders heart, but the Sith Lord used Luke's openness against him, exposing his feelings for his friends and Leia in particular. Something in Luke broke as Vader claimed he would turn Leia into a puppet of the Sith if Luke resisted." "The savageness of Luke's attack surprised Vader, who was unprepared for Luke's explosive reaction." Skywalker: A family at war Kristin Baver 2022
@adamrogers705
@adamrogers705 Ай бұрын
I think you're right, but partly also because they are both light side oriented in those movies. Regardless of what got them into the fight, their ultimate goal would be peace. They'd be fighting where a stalemate is a win.
@librapaladin81
@librapaladin81 Ай бұрын
Hey Theory- Your take on the intricacies of battles between force users is so spot on as a comparison to matches between chess players... especially strong or master-level chess players. Pyschology. Experience. Aggressive play vs. patience, and waiting for the right opening to upset the balance.... it's all there! Curious to know your thoughts, or anyone's thoughts on this comparison. Thanks, and keep bringing us more like this!!
@TheCollector73
@TheCollector73 Ай бұрын
The Son vs WBW Anakin
@user-rg7gm4rh9c
@user-rg7gm4rh9c Ай бұрын
Love these videos!
@Cyxozy
@Cyxozy Ай бұрын
So happy to sees these vids again theory
@MrJTH1999
@MrJTH1999 Ай бұрын
You were magnificent, Skywalker. I’ll never forget you for as long as I live”
@LetsGetNuts
@LetsGetNuts Ай бұрын
These are the videos that got me hooked on your channel years ago. Glad to see this type of content return!
@seqentaltv5285
@seqentaltv5285 Ай бұрын
Hey Theory been a fan for years love to hear your take on this Anakin ROTS VS DATH MAUL CWS7
@warrenlw230
@warrenlw230 Ай бұрын
Back to classic content🔥💯
@dyattz
@dyattz Ай бұрын
Darth Vader was a monster whose mere presence would make a force user tremble and wiped the floor with powerful jedi - Obi Wan beat his ass TWICE! General Grievous took the lives of many Jedi (sometimes multiple at the same time) and had 4 arms with jedi combat training - Obi Wan solod his ass I think we all know who the real beast of Star Wars has always been. The guy is amazing!
@williamcooper8599
@williamcooper8599 Ай бұрын
In the Kenobi show there was actually gonna be a scene where Obi wan fights Luke on Mustafar just like he fought Vader but they scraped it for some reason.
@A.Radwick
@A.Radwick Ай бұрын
I think that Obi Wan wins if he does the opposite of what he did facing Anakin. I think that if he does any kind of taunting, Luke would unleash his full potential with a much greater level of control than Anakin did. Any kind of emotional edge is going to make Luke far more dangerous. I also believe that Anakin certainly SHOULD have won on Mustafar, but held back for the thrill of the fight and out of pride, eventually allowing himself to be exploited. Luke, I believe, would not make such a mistake. BUT, if Obi-Wan approached the battle as he should and remains stoic, I think he gets the win. Love the content. These are the conversations I'm here for.
@julianadeau5797
@julianadeau5797 Ай бұрын
The other factor is that while Luke did have his father's hot temper, he had more control over his emotions than his father did at his age. After all, he came close to losing control to his rage, but ultimately pulled himself back towards sanity, whereas his father had failed that test time and time again.
@TheOnlyWalton66
@TheOnlyWalton66 Ай бұрын
Prime theory right here! Love it man, gotta say though Obi wan for me is up there for debateably most iconic alongside luke and anakin. Alec and ewan and james arnold have truly created a powerful influential character!
@curriphacreator
@curriphacreator Ай бұрын
I really think you should do an Anakin vs. Luke battle. Who was the better pilot?
@yungkev89
@yungkev89 Ай бұрын
This man is always on point
@dpap1220
@dpap1220 Ай бұрын
Nice to see you going back to your roots! Agree Obi’s experience gets him the win. Maybe a future versus battle could be who was a better strategist: Clone Wars Anakin or Revan during the mandalorian wars
@Wookieewangg
@Wookieewangg Ай бұрын
Durge vs Mando w/ dark saber
@thomasrosendahl2783
@thomasrosendahl2783 Ай бұрын
Mismatch, Luke was recently knighted while Obi-Wan was the third strongest Jedi Master in the Council after Yoda and Mace. Mandalorian Luke is either an experienced Jedi knight or newly appointed Master judging by the time line 10 ABY compared to the noob ROTJ version of Luke.
@connorellis
@connorellis Ай бұрын
I love this! Such an interesting video. Please do Mace vs Yoda
@Smooth.Operator.
@Smooth.Operator. Ай бұрын
This is the stuff I first subscribed for🔥
@rowanbritton5661
@rowanbritton5661 Ай бұрын
Count Dooku vs Darth Vader would be a very interesting fight Yoda Rots vs Windu Rots Sidious and Vader vs Yoda and Windu ?
@MasterCast001
@MasterCast001 Ай бұрын
i agree with this. If we power scale tho, the fact that Luke scales to a percentage of ROTJ Vader gives him such a higher power lvl.
@dreadrath
@dreadrath Ай бұрын
I always had the sense that Vader was holding back against Luke during both their duels, more so in the second duel, so I wouldn't count ROTS Obi out on this particular match up, especially since Luke was nowhere near the zenith of his potential by ROTJ. Obi's got lots and lots of experience from the Clone Wars, and really the only person ROTS Obi lost to was Dooku, and in that case there were odd circumstances surrounding that loss.
@ytsejam67678989
@ytsejam67678989 Ай бұрын
Dude ! Super interesting topic! , I wonder also what if Qui-Gon Jinn fought Anakin ROTS
@mobcent8192
@mobcent8192 23 күн бұрын
Tbh it’s kinda crazy to see how far you’ve come on this channel I been watching your videos since I was like 15 I’m 24 now 😱
@StopPanakinAnakin
@StopPanakinAnakin Ай бұрын
It's been a long time since I've been here and Im glad to be back.
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow 4 күн бұрын
There’s like 2 versions of Obi-Wan. A ‘Base’ Obi-Wan, and a ‘channeling the living force’ Obi-Wan in which he’s in a sort of flow state, or ‘in the zone’ so to speak. The version of Obi-Wan that beat Legends Grevious using all 4 lightsabers, the version that beat Vader on Mustafar in both continuities, the one that beat Vader in Kenobi in canon. I believe that this version of Obi-Wan can beat RotJ Luke despite Luke having a massive raw power advantage due to scaling somewhat around RotJ Vader who’s Vader at his peak (while Dark Side amped). Luke wouldn’t fall to the Dark Side against Obi-Wan, and Obi-WAN’s ‘living force’ amp literally defies fate as it was stated that the force showed in every possible timeline that Obi Wan lost but he won the fight anyways, changing fate itself. Granted there’s a limit but the Vader tier characters don’t surpass said limit
@bloodrune329
@bloodrune329 29 күн бұрын
I refused to believe that Obi Wan, famously played by Ewan McGregor, lost a Satine until I looked it up. Ewan McGregor’s characters literally cannot hang onto a Satine without them dying (Moulin Rouge).
@ccoonansr
@ccoonansr Ай бұрын
Thank you this was awesome.
@funnature8679
@funnature8679 Ай бұрын
I think if Luke was forced to battle with just force abilities, I think he can be creative and well-mannered(like a jedi he always wanted to be), not causing unnessesary harm, as defense and protection, like a football player can't reach him if the player going in for a mutal consent tackle, his actions-per-minute is fast, techniqual application will vary, yet don't underrate his possibilities. I think neither would harm each other normally.
@angelshalo01
@angelshalo01 Ай бұрын
It would be a close fight no doubt but I also feel the reason why they are fighting plays into who would wins, for example... If it's for morals and what's right and off of emotion and passion then 💚LUKE however if it's off of a more technical and controlled and respected battle it's 🔵OBI
@thomasself8096
@thomasself8096 Ай бұрын
Looking at the lightsaber fights, reminded me of why I loved star wars as a kid. It was fun and the action was otherworldly. To compare these lightsaber duels to anything Disney did really shows you how little talent disney has.
@mikelherrera-gutierrez8071
@mikelherrera-gutierrez8071 Ай бұрын
Ahhh yes some good ole Star Wars theory 💪 much love
@greggedy629
@greggedy629 Ай бұрын
I would say in kenobis defence about his power, while obviously potential not near to Luke (not trying to say it is). He is more naturally powerful and gifted then made out. He's like a dyslexic jedi meaning, a dyslexic person's iq is naturally higher, but have difficulty learning in conventional manner, or just have to put in more effort. I see kenobi like this, he matched a force push with anakin, in kenobi, displayed some incredible feats of power towards the end. The dooku push is used to discredit him, but I feel like palps had something to do with that
@diapchickmoc
@diapchickmoc Ай бұрын
Please make video who's mechanical arm is better luke vs anakin
@TheGreatWave4
@TheGreatWave4 Ай бұрын
In my book, experience outranks everything
@user-vh2dd5xk6z
@user-vh2dd5xk6z Ай бұрын
Obi-Wan vs Luke sounds like a story Disney would tell. Other than Disney, there ain't a single thing that could hypothetically make them battle each other.
@minimachomestead
@minimachomestead Ай бұрын
Loving the classic SWT content! Hope its part of a revival of that older style!
@lincolnhoffamn5103
@lincolnhoffamn5103 Ай бұрын
I love that these are back!!
@Epyon18572
@Epyon18572 Ай бұрын
Obi was at his peak in 3. Luke had a vision of his saber flying to Mara and she wasn't even a sith apprentice. Great video though.
@BlueDG142
@BlueDG142 Ай бұрын
Could you make a video like this with Kyle Katarn? In memory of those amazing Dark Forces games. Thanks.
@user-cf1pm8ym9x
@user-cf1pm8ym9x Ай бұрын
Awesome video theory! I love your content. Who would win, Cal Kestis from Jedi: Survivor, or Revan from Kotor?
@tomridgway66
@tomridgway66 Ай бұрын
This is very much an argument that comes up a lot! Potential vs Training I’ve always Luke is immensely skilled for his age and relative lack of proper training and experience. I put at a power and skill level compatible to Obi Wan himself around the time period of Attack Of The Clones/early clone wars. ROTS Obi Wan is a completely different animal. He simply is more skilled and experienced with the lightsaber and Luke would be defeated albeit after very likely putting up an impressive fight.
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