Can Partying be a Motive for Parricide? | Tyler Hadley Case Analysis

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[@sjeabee5345]

It sounded like the mom tried her best to help her son. What a shame.

[@DustWolphy]

I wouldn't be so sure. Putting a young kid on so many drugs. Likely she was trying to cure her own issues and the kid was just a victim.

[@margaretr5701]

@@DustWolphy It's possible she was at a loss, and did what Dr's suggested, medications and talk therapy. What do you think she should have done?

[@Jimmy911ism]

@Weevil which is a bad thing. A far better system would be: do the crime, do the time and that's it, you're square with the house. Ongoing punishment serves no one. It is not a deterrent, as offenders, especially young offenders, aren't thinking like that.

[@DustWolphy]

@@margaretr5701 possible yes. Likely no. Nobody needs antidepressants at 10.

[@diannt9583]

@@DustWolphy The doctors put the kid on drugs. How would she have the background to go against them?

[@TheNunududu]

Tyler: "I killed somebody." Mark: "You killing somebody is your business." I laughed an inappropriate amount at this.

[@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis]

He called the police later, so he probably just wanted him to stay oblivious so he wont flee or attempt a killing spree or something.

[@OhtheSuffering]

It's not a completely left-field response. If a friend randomly told you that, you might, in reflex, panic and assume they're trying to get you involved in disposal or however else. So Mark probably wanted to remove himself from the equation as cleanly as possible.

[@ibraheemtemur3469]

@@OhtheSuffering Or he just wanted to avoid being punished according your ridiculous laws. Everyone is an accomplice, you make "killers" out of people who have never taken a life, and give them football numbers. Thats insanity.

[@Ethan-fh9lq]

@@ibraheemtemur3469 What?

[@BOOTEDUPFLORIDAOUTDOORS]

I grew up in PSL. Still here, unfortunately. I was 16 when this happened, and had been sent the address to this party. If I hadn’t been down in the Florida keys with my friends family I likely would have gone. I knew of Tyler Hadley, he was what we refer to here in FL as a “baser”, or heavy drug user. Mark Andrews is one of my closest friends older brother. PSL is a very strange city, especially as a teen. There’s nothing to do but cause trouble and party. RIP Blake and MaryJo, she was a teacher at my elementary school and a very sweet lady.

[@sallyostling]

Unfortunately back in high school 30 years ago our weekends revolved around "where's the party". We were however very respectful of property and besides an occasional accident, never dreamed of trashing anything. I think that's mob mentality. Once someone starts flipping out, everyone else wants in.

[@JeannetteShoreland]

Let's not make victims of these youthful hoodlums. Where were the parents of these teens who were out ALL night? In my opinion, they should have appeared in court to account for this offense. Good and bad behavior is learned early. in one's life.

[@pricklypear7516]

@@JeannetteShoreland . . . A logical assessment of the dynamics at work is hardly an attempt to "make victims" of these brats.

[@frostbite3318]

@@JeannetteShoreland yeah let’s arrest the parents too, hell even the grandparents, and euthanize all the pets while we’re at it!!

[@rockyshores5840]

I had to be responsible for myself starting at age 15, so the cost of entering party culture would have been my own survival. Videos like this remind me that I made the right choice. Almost everyone I know who lived that lifestyle has an effed up body, effed up relationships, or an effed up career to show for it.

[@Chefsandrajm]

So true

[@bthomson]

Why do I feel that "good" parenting is such a slim line! Too much or too little of so many things ( discipline, guidance, involvement, leniency, expectations, disinterest, etc.) as well as fielding medical decisions and meanwhile working what may be a full time job yourself! Often both parents won't even agree on what is right! Makes my head hurt!

[@gypsygirl9]

Exactly why I chose no kids.

[@JustJ-Me]

@@gypsygirl9 Some of the same reasons I decided the same.

[@I_love_all_the_animals]

Yeah, I’m *so glad* I decided never to have children! 😁🙏🏻

[@theblueclue3843]

Tyler was out here desperately trying to confess to murder and noooo one at this party was having it

[@betterbee1304]

I wonder what his thought process was during this whole thing. He cared about a mail box but not about his own parents? They tried to get him help but was it not enough? Those poor parents. Also, those cops must have stunned. Just showing up to a regular party and finding two dead bodies. Thanks for the video, Dr Grande! ❤️ Fascinating case.

[@cl5470]

I think he only cared about the mailbox because it might draw the attention of the cops.

[@joanneblack7697]

@@cl5470 Agree!

[@fang3839]

Unfortunately the parents might make things worse. When your child is a mental case, beef him up may not be a good idea. The focus should’ve been to help him cope with what he is not help him feel good about himself.

[@joanneblack7697]

@@fang3839 Yeah ... these special case kids, where people realize at age 3 thru 6 that something is "off" ... I think they need really specialized care. Probably above the pay grade off the average local doctor. Getting those drug cocktails while the brain is still growing, and "pruning" itself probably has a way diffetent affect than on adult brains. There are books by a Dr. Amen (The End of Mental Illness) that talk about this. He is a neurologist who has thousands of brain scans and gets into how a damaged brain needs neurological treatment ... not just meds and talk therapy.

[@prospectorpete3738]

Sounds like the kid was sexually abused as a child.

[@Wolfsblut7]

"Less murder is almost always a good idea if one wants to build a healthy and productive community" - I agree.

[@dogtrainer4645]

He actually cracked a smile on that one! 😁

[@fungiblast]

Once again, Dr. Grande speaks truth!

[@steveolotu52]

Well, I mean, that's like your opinion, man! - Dexter

[@deeandrews7051]

almost always? I think less murder is ALWAYS a good idea.

[@brianpratt3224]

This is what happens when someone takes the Beastie Boys Song "Fight for your right to party" way too seriously.

[@Chefsandrajm]

Seriously

[@allaboardthegravytrain5987]

Lmao

[@feralbluee]

i shouldn’t, but i’m really laughing! thanks for giving us the chance to let go of the tension. ugh!

[@audralynn7454]

Thank you for your analysis! There sure is a lot going on in this case. It's really unfortunate. A kid who showed signs of depression seems to have set off his mother's fears and insecurities and I wonder if she went a little overboard. I think it's ridiculous to give your child HGH because you're worried they will be short and have low self esteem. Daily counseling and multiple medications at such a young age sounds like the mother needed more help dealing with her fear. It seems like all this kid has known is to take drugs to change the way he feels, soooooo what did he do? I think this case has so much more than just a teen who wanted to party. He has serious issues, and we can't really say what caused them. Sad all around.

[@cpeace3172]

Tyler looks remarkably different in each photo. I assume the meds had an effect on weight gain.

[@fionagregory9376]

He had been eating too many buns.

[@prospectorpete3738]

@@fionagregory9376 too many buns spoils the cook

[@RedLion502]

If he was on meds for his hypothyroidism it makes sense since that condition slows your metabolism down quite a bit.

[@meumnomen]

Most people gain weight in jail

[@elisakatarina1435]

His also still growing, a teenager, he was what 16 yo when it happened? Anyway, appearance changes when you age and at that age quite much.. also the meds probably and yes most people do gain weight in jail.

[@farmcat3198]

"You throw a killer party, dude!"

[@AI-dp3rd]

The bit about staring in the mirror and laughing at his reflection made me wonder if he saw himself as the Joker or an equivalent antihero … Tyler’s grasp on reality was very tenuous. Great analysis and an excellent choice of cases, Dr. Grande!

[@DonPeyote420]

just fucking dramatic teen shit, copying it from movies and cartoons don't take it too seriously

[@whoisharo4689]

His ecstasy pill was just starting to kick in, thats all.

[@eadweard.]

@@whoisharo4689 that's not really an effect of ecstasy

[@prospectorpete3738]

Various drugs or psychosis can make reflections pull faces at you in the mirror.

[@eadweard.]

@@prospectorpete3738 not ecstasy

[@Stichting_NoFap]

His mother didn't notice him standing behind her with a hammer for 5 minutes? She must have been really focussed on her work

[@deeandrews7051]

Surprised his father could not overpower him, or at least put up a good fight.

[@nicolel3656]

Such a sad case, it’s disturbing that the people he confessed to at the party did not alert the authorities. Great analysis Dr. Grande, and may I say you look quite spiffy in that dress shirt! ☺️

[@chazzbranigaan9354]

Even though he didn't mention it there was like 3 people who independently contacted the police after he left. I don't think there was anyone who he showed the body for instance that didn't call those who didn't just got vague statements. I probably wouldn't believe his autistic ass either until I saw the bodies.

[@tosomt5419]

VERY DISTURBING, but I think ppl from from florida are a little "off" in general

[@elphaba4674]

yeah, a few people he told came forward, that's why the cops were there the same night

[@lauren9667]

An out of control party would definitely not be exciting for me… even if it wasn’t my house, I’d be an anxious mess - so you win Dr. Grande! I guess I have to back off from my past comment about the system failing people who have mental health problems. His parents recognized there was an issue an acted on it. RIP, Mr. & Mrs. Hadley. You tried.

[@Mama_Bear524]

I noticed too. They really tried! And I felt her when she was relieved because she thought things were going well. Dealing with issues with my daughter (she wouldn’t harm others just herself) it’s so hard to feel ok. Even in good times. Always paranoid. Poor parents.

[@emizerri]

Tyler killed both his parents after taking three pills of Ecstasy?! Man, he had some serious demons.

[@diannt9583]

@@crochunter35 I guess he thought it was "tough love"... Oh, no, Dr. Grande is rubbing off on me.

[@beeimaginative]

I vote for your analysis over Tyler’s Lord of the Flies party. I was really struck (sorry) by Tyler standing behind his mother for 5 minutes contemplating. So disturbing!

[@beeimaginative]

@@LukeMcGuireoides Ugh. Sends chills up my spine. Don’t you think she could just feel the evil behind her!

[@allencollins9951]

@@beeimaginative I bet she sensed something wasn't right kind of like if someone was hiding in your home you would be able to sense it very chilling indeed

[@mr.schwinn2976]

I know right that's what I said!!! He probably was hesitating but couldn't control the urge to be popular, he killed his parents over a damn party 🥳 wow who in their right mind does that no one when you look at it from Dr Grande's perspective you know this is serious note neurological defect here he's out of his marbles completely people like that they don't even lock them up they put them in a psych ward!!!!!!!! One of the most disturbing teenage stories I ever heard

[@helpyourcattodrive]

It’s Grande time. Always a great time.

[@darlenelawson1255]

Wow, you really did a good job of getting all that info. It sounds like he wanted to be the Joker. My sister had high Thyroid and had bad headaches. Maybe his Thyroid went up and down. This can cause a difficult life. A low Thyroid can cause anxiety and depression. I have had auto immune problems with the Thyroid. It is terrible that he killed his parents.😥😥 Thank-you for that video, and my dog is calling me.💙🇨🇦💙

[@farnazrostami5302]

Super heartbreaking case💔. The agony which the brother went through is beyond belief. Thanks doctor for good lessons and happy Monday🧡.

[@bthomson]

Yes! Always good lessons!

[@ChristinePerez903]

That sad he cared more about what his peers think then the lives of his parents. Great video Dr Grande!!!

[@prospectorpete3738]

Perhaps his parents weren't angels ?

[@DoubtingThomas333]

My father had more bad qualities than good, and my mother is very low in intelligence and has become a miserable old lady to anyone that doesn't listen to what she says like the word of God. Who knows what's going through peoples minds. This guy was a druggo, a problem drinker and had other problems that were probably undiagnosed, besides his other health problems that were ongoing.

[@allencollins9951]

@@prospectorpete3738 perhaps they were good parents why blame them?

[@mr.schwinn2976]

That's what I was saying but the young boy was incredibly insane and it was the type of insanity that flicked on and off it was evident when his guilt started kicking in and crushed the party after he confessed three times

[@mr.schwinn2976]

@@prospectorpete3738 if they are it's an example how the environment can change you rather than the genetics of a descendant

[@annal7364]

Thanks for your analysis, Dr. G. This shows how frighteningly powerful the peer group is. Kids need appropriately enforced discipline + compassion to feel loved and secure. This case made me feel sick.

[@aeris2001]

I don't understand how he could be so violent while on Ecstasy, is he so devoid of Empathy, even MDMA can't bring it out.

[@erikparent8176]

Yes, that's my understanding of how Ecstasy works. I've heard it produces a very loving feeling towards everyone. Sort of a manufactured empathy & uforia. One could reason he had none to draw on. 🤷‍♂️❓

[@Bubba__Sawyer]

Anti-depressants completely numb your emotions, and ADHD meds can also have a similar effect.

[@daisybennett1600]

I’ve never bought ecstasy and actually gotten ecstasy. It’s always been meth or some mix that includes meth. Meth makes people very very unempathetic. Probably he actually did meth.

[@elco2737]

There's a lot of crazy sh!t going down in Florida, always. I had never heard of this case, but leave it to Dr. Grande to find the good stuff!

[@HeatherHolt]

High on ecstasy while cleaning up his parents bodies and blood!? Omg I can’t even imagine. The empathy you feel when on ecstasy I can’t believe that he wouldn’t have felt overwhelmingly bad for what he had done before the party started. And the panic. Idk. These stories just really get me how people can be this evil.

[@itssmariaaaa]

maybe he did the crime before the drugs kicked in properly

[@RoseRoseRoseRoseRoseRose]

As someone who loves her parents very much and whose Dad is now isolated in the hospital, it hits me more harder than before when I see such family tragedies... I thank you for analyzing this case sensitive and not like the Yellow Press, Dr. Grande 💞❣ 💞

[@Mama_Bear524]

I’m so sorry that’s gotta be so hard. I lost my mom and we were close so these cases really get to me.

[@bthomson]

Wishing the best of care to your Dad!

[@mgparis]

Best wishes to your Dad

[@sovietvalkyrie3473]

some choose evil and hate in their hearts it's really sad

[@caleb2037]

Always nice to start the day off with Grande time, or in reality, finish the day for myself, being on nightshift and all lol

[@rullmourn1142]

Some individuals are just worthless, no matter what you do to help them.

[@angiedixon8017]

Agreed

[@prospectorpete3738]

I've worked with kids 8-12 that I know will never amount to anything other than an extra body in prison as an adult. Some kids have experienced so much abuse and trauma that they have no chance at functioning in polite society.

[@simonw1313]

@@prospectorpete3738 - Perhaps not the best attitude to take to your job? Maybe you could reach and make a difference to one or two of them. That seems less likely with that mentality.

[@Raakiszh]

Some real psycho comments up in here.

[@sarahmoon-sapp1195]

@@prospectorpete3738 oof... You sure you're not experiencing burnout or something?

[@danielsass1826]

I love your dry humor. "As apposed to some cow mooing class" lmfaoooo also " less murder is almost always a good thing" too funny man

[@joanneblack7697]

The " ... less murder ..." comment with the deadpan delivery ... my fave! 😅😅😅😅😅

[@dianaprince1347]

LOVE the deadpan humor. I am on the autism spectrum of disorders, I have a difficult time "getting" jokes, but, I have the same type of dry humor and delivery style, so, I always appreciate when he drops a few one liners. It makes me laugh out loud in the middle of some serious, intense subject matter. Grande love for Dr.Grande ❤️

[@mythodica]

Read this just as the doc says it. Funny.

[@mythodica]

@@sunnyscott4876 good thing you don't have to watch it! Edit: yeah I'm an ass sorry.

[@mythodica]

@@sunnyscott4876 you're right, my apologies, I was being an ass. I wouldn't say I "value" his point of view but I do enjoy the sterile nature of his reporting the facts. In so honesty, I don't particularly enjoy his humor for the most part. There are comments every now and then that are very witty but, most feel forced and not very funny at all. I guess I just get frustrated with negative comments, and felt yours was negative and unnecessary. Sometimes I forget my hypocrisy in commenting back negatively. 😄😄😄😄 But I appreciate the response regardless. Have a great weekend!

[@AI-dp3rd]

The destructiveness at Tyler’s party reminded me of the party described in “Our Guys” by Bernard Lefkowitz, a 1997 book about the sexual assault of a mentally disabled girl by four high-school football players back in the eighties. The party wasn’t related to the assault, but was described in graphic detail to give another example of a culture where no one was ever held responsible for crimes if they were among the town’s elite (athletic, wealthy kids). Not that anyone can imagine a culture like that today, I’m sure.

[@tomgabriel5150]

I remember reading about this incident Sports Illustrated back in the day. Wasn't aware of the book, will have to look it up.

[@Churd84538]

As a teenager in the 80's I've been to some crazy parties where places were trashed much like this place. Lots of fighting too. Some dudes went to parties with fighting as their goal for the night. The police knew us by our first names because they broke up so many parties. Every Friday and Saturday there was a party somewhere. Being the 80's there were a lot of drugs and booze. I went to a party thrown by bikers and it got so crazy the house burned to the ground. Nobody wanted to call 911. Including the owner. The party was in the yard. How the house caught fire I have no idea.

[@sarahalbers5555]

Well, we had the affluence case in Texas, which was another example of this sort grimy teenage sub culture. The destruction and total loss of any type of conscience or restraint is so troubling. I am going to read about that case, nightmare fuel.

[@holidaytrout5174]

@Dan Won it definitely seems like it was

[@prospectorpete3738]

@@Churd84538 I used to love going to 18ths and 21sts that were held at Bikey Bars! Generally it's safer because of the young ones behave around the Bikeys!

[@Throatzillaaa]

Am I the only person who has to start Todd's videos over about a minute in, because you realize you weren't listening well enough? I'm just focusing on taking in the background (what's new? what's moved) and of course, our favorite doctor and his always-flattering wardrobe.

[@bthomson]

Yes! Part of the pleasure (every video is both educational and entertaining) is noticing the "hooks" plants and shirts! So satisfying!

[@fionagregory9376]

I am so glad my son has been near perfect since he was born. Be grateful for what you have.

[@pezeron24]

Growing up in France, we all drank legally from age 16 on. We occasionally got drunk but it rarely degenerated into a drinking orgy. I was amazed when I saw how drunk American students could get as soon as they had the opportunity. I think it's healthier to integrate moderate drinking into a teen's life rather than going from strict prohibition to no boundary at all. From puritanism to excess.

[@CBeatty59]

Amen!

[@margaretr5701]

I agree! I grew up in the UK, I believe the drinking age was 18, but kid's could go into pubs with adults. I never saw alcohol become a big issue and all parties I went to were civiised, not an excuse to ruin someone's home. I can't begin to understand the motivation and I've only seen that behaviour shown in American movies.

[@michaellovely6601]

@@margaretr5701 In the UK people can legally consume alcohol at the age of eighteen.

[@thephilster6860]

It's probably cultural. Some nations like Canada and Switzerland have as many guns per capita as the US, but we enjoy using ours on one another.

[@margaretr5701]

@@thephilster6860 Incorrect about Canada, they never had ~'more guns than people'~ which is the status in the USA. Also, there was a massive recall after the shooting in NB. Of course there are still illegal guns, used by criminals. Yes, I've heard guns are legal in Switzerland and most homes have one, but as you said, they don't use them the same way as in the States.

[@VampirusX]

14:44 Dry sarcasm at the very end! Very nice, Dr Grande👌

[@devonedesign]

Less murder builds better communities!!!

[@TsunamiHige]

yea but "ALMOST always"

[@natiliee.s.5476]

13:28 Tyler killed his parents hours before the party. There's no way in the world that their bodies would have a smell from decomposition. Now if you said there was a strong smell of blood in the house, that would have made better sense.

[@Bubba__Sawyer]

Whatever foul odors there were would've been from smelly teenagers, beer soaked rugs, cigarettes and whatever other food and drink had spilled in the place.

[@natiliee.s.5476]

@@Bubba__Sawyer I agree.

[@sarahmoon-sapp1195]

I agree. 💯💯💯 I think probably once the rumors spread like wildfire these kids probably made up stuff they assumed would make sense just to sound relevant and involved. IMHO, anyway.

[@umalazoff4]

Hi Dr. grande I don't remember if I made this request, but can you please analyze Armando Caballero's case (Miya Marcano's disappearance and very possible murder)? I knew this 19 year old woman, she went to my middle and high school, and she deserves to have awareness spread about, along with justice to her family. We weren't close friends, but I'd like another perspective on it

[@meumnomen]

They found her body in Orlando yesterday

[@umalazoff4]

@@meumnomen I know

[@clintgossett1879]

I grew up with rich kids. When someone throws a party that kids don't know or don't respect, the trash the house and steal valuables. It's par for the course.

[@thereal4113]

I'm wondering how many couples that were planning to have children are rethinking their options. A dog 🐕 will love you unconditionally and most likely incapable of murder. Great analysis Dr. G! 🌵🌵🌵🌵

[@allencollins9951]

As long as you don't get a pit bull better get a beagle or something lol

[@diamondleigh7280]

@@allencollins9951 Pitbulls are loving and incredibly intelligent.... Pits are definitely underrated 😏...... I have a 8 week old puppy pit and I house trained her within a week, she's super smart ❤️....

[@allencollins9951]

@@diamondleigh7280 yeah maybe so but their natural instinct is to kill unlike a beagle who's natural instinct is to hunt

[@allencollins9951]

@@diamondleigh7280 but personally I have nothing against Pitt bulls

[@prospectorpete3738]

That's ridiculous.... A dog isn't capable of complex emotions and is in no way a substitute for the miracle of a couple producing life and nurturing the child into a capable adult. Couples with fertility issues hurt deeply over the whole 'dog mum/Dad' thing.

[@lilymarchan4028]

never been this early!! always excited for a new upload. you rock dr. grande. Would love to hear your thoughts on The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel Van Der Kolk. Hope you have a great day!

[@karenmacphee9186]

It’s interesting how drugs can have such different effects on certain individuals. My understanding is that ecstasy is a drug that gives most the “Love everyone too much “ affect. Tyler would fit into the certain individual’s category. He loved his parents to death.

[@jackedkerouac4414]

You know the world is moving too fast when the mention of "2011" makes you struggle to think how primitive cellphone technology was at that time

[@bthomson]

The more things change the more they stay the same!

[@prp2]

Primitive? Wtf do you mean? The first Android phone, the G1, was released three years earlier in 2008. Not to mention other smartphones years before that ran on Symbian OS and such. Smartphones have been around for nearly 20 years now.

[@sherris.2402]

I also felt that laughing in the mirror seemed diabolical...I do believe that evil exists.

[@recessinthering8425]

@Weevil I mean this is a lot more accurate than ppl realize. _All those psych meds_ pickling his young brain and no required physical activity?! A liquid ton of testosterone coursing through his veins and (normal) teen fantasies about what it would actually be like to be in a fight with your dad? Sprinkle in some phone/internet withdrawal and narcissistic anger? He probably thought he was evil - but he was way _over_ focused upon as the family problem but at the same time likely neglected in numerous non-medical ways. His poor parents were probably too exhausted to see he was beyond tough love and taking away privileges.

[@javelin60]

I was gobsmacked when I heard this story the first time. So senseless and so much destruction. And yes, less murder sounds like a good call to me. 👍

[@bridgetteperry9802]

You should be in the ASMR category, love the soft spoken stories 💕

[@JustJ-Me]

Haha. I agree! I told my friend how his voice has a calming effect on me along with the interesting analysis.

[@helpyourcattodrive]

Please do the grim sleeper. He was a mechanic for the LACity sanitation department Los Angeles serial killer.

[@TheWorstThingEver]

This is a sad story.

[@fionagregory9376]

Yes it is

[@bthomson]

If you think about it most of them are.😓

[@ignominius3111]

There was a case like this in my area 30 years ago. The parents were in the compost pile while the barbecue took place on the lawn. They had previously said “no” to his request for permission to have the party. Ooops! Went violent.

[@bthomson]

That difficult time between adulthood (having your own place and freedom) and the teenage years! Resentment can build to explosive!

[@margaretr5701]

@@bthomson The word, 'no' shouldn't cause such resentment, or such unimaginable violence. I've only seen the wild, house trashing parties, portrayed in American movies. If this is more common than rare, it must be a societal problem.

[@msjujuz266]

Some of the smallest most boring towns I know had the worst drink and drug problems, I think parents want to settle down somewhere quiet at that point in their life and dont realise what a negative effect isolation has on teenagers. In my partying days I knew a guy in his early 20's who used to sit with his Mother and do ecstasy, small town problems. Actually now i think of it these little towns and villages also had a really high suicide problem of the under 30's as well which possibly is related to these issues.

[@dantauche7917]

I definitely found the analysis as exciting as an out of control party.

[@infinitejest441]

👻

[@dantauche7917]

Just the way I like it

[@kristn6513]

Less murder, good...truer words✌️💙

[@bthomson]

Yes! So many true crime videos just make you shake your head! Murder should not be the "go to" solution!

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

This is an extremely sad case. It makes me wonder if he would have committed this crime if drugs weren’t involved, namely the ecstasy he took before killing his parents. I am not saying that he did it because of the drugs but rather I feel that the combination of mental illness with drug use is always disastrous. The same goes for the party guests, would they behave in that reprehensible manner without the alcohol? I also think that supervision is paramount for teenagers, a lot of bad things can potentially be avoided if they properly supervised. Thank you for the wonderful review Dr. Grande.❤️

[@bthomson]

I'm afraid that what this case shows is that even with proper supervision ( his mother certainly tried her best!) some people will not be helped enough to avoid terrible outcomes! At what point could this tragedy have been stopped? Very few are sent to mental hospitals and even if they are they don't stay long!

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

@@bthomson That’s a good point. I agree with you, the parents did try to prevent bad outcomes, I wasn’t talking about them in my comment but more so in general terms. I don’t know if this tragedy could have been prevented. The only thing I can think of is the addition of drugs into this whole situation, which in my opinion always makes everything worse. But maybe that wouldn’t have changed the end result either. I occasionally cover for a psychiatric hospital and I see many acute cases. Like you said, that’s a temporary solution and most of the time it doesn’t really solve anything, it mainly just stabilizes the patients until they can move to another unit or be discharged. The real work is gradual and requires a lot of patience and consistency.

[@Bubba__Sawyer]

@@rejaneoliveira5019 I think the anti-depressants probably had a much worse effect on him. Ecstasy doesn't induce psychosis.

[@deeandrews7051]

No empathy = psycopath. He obviously did not have any empathy. He laughed about killing them to his friend. Some people are just evil.

[@one-day-at-a-time4134]

He was given adderall growing up, dude was given stimulents for a disorder that gives you an already hyper personality.

[@bjornodin]

This is case is so completely bonkers that I can't even comprehend how horrible it is. It just doesn't seem real 😳

[@fionagregory9376]

It is, sadly.

[@bthomson]

But should it be?

[@The_Red_Pill__]

Why the heck would they change it to “possibility of parole”? This guy should never be in public. He’s clearly a danger.

[@kellys8930]

Awesome analysis!

[@cockroach2013]

One of the few channels I can watch without headphones while my son naps 😌

[@junejourney1051]

He just proved he’s not a cool guy; I’m sorry for the parents really. Always the best with Dr.Todd Grande 🫀🤍

[@joanneblack7697]

The "less murder ... good ..." comment with your dry delivery ... 😅😅😅🎯 Great stuff as usual. Dr. G. ... do you have any thoughts on certain kids are just "unfixable"? Also, do you think giving this guy parole is a bad idea? Ty again! 👍

[@orel__]

Murders done for childish, petty reasons makes me feel like vomiting.

[@fionagregory9376]

Thanks for the good video again.

[@birdlovespaint]

Have you looked into the Daniel Robinson missing person case in AZ? Really odd . Needs more coverage . ❤

[@JustJ-Me]

I was recently listening to a podcast about him. Very odd and definitely needs more coverage!

[@sarahmoon-sapp1195]

Now I'm quite curious.

[@coweatsman]

Best argument for being childfree.

[@lindajayneclark767]

You are as exciting as an out-of-control teenage party. Especially your dry sarcasm!🤪

[@katetruthseeker2758]

I always love your content Dr. Grande!! Best youtube channel available!

[@anxious_and_avoidant]

Omg this case has always stuck out to me. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts.

[@daat9020]

Always enjoy watching your videos.. Excellent analysis...

[@JustJ-Me]

I always learn more details and information watching your channel than I've seen watching/ reading other sources about the same people and events countless times.

[@bthomson]

Yes! This is the supreme!

[@rigourelite1306]

Cheers! New vid can't wait to see this one

[@cottontails9003]

Brilliant analysis as always. Thank you Dr Grande.

[@Throatzillaaa]

I am so shocked by the friend who SAW the corpses, then continued to party for 45 minutes, and finally left and called the police. I am glad he did alert the police but I can't imagine just staying there and taking selfies with my homicidal, unhinged friend. Maybe he thought the selfies and pictures of the party would be worth a bit of money to newspapers, news websites, etc the next day after the police broke the news to the public? I guess I'm not surprised that the friends of the weird mooing boy in high-school are also a bit strange, too.

[@gailflora1835]

I enjoyed listening to this and was telling my son, so we both sad and listened to it again. So much unbelievable stuff in here .. how he murdered his parents in cold blood and then has a wild party and the house is trashed, and then that same night feels remorse.. just crazy. Good job telling it Dr Grande!

[@Potato_Bug]

I heard about this crime through a song titled “Tyler Hadley” by SKYND (pronounced ‘skinned’), they write/create songs on true crime

[@gypzeemom650]

WOW!! Lookin’ good with your wardrobe choices lately Mr. G! Excellent show and analysis once again. 😘

[@mrs.reluctant4095]

Certainly not, but I appreciate doctor's asking. 🙂 How polite is this.

[@erikparent8176]

I seldom feel the need to party but when I hear KC & The 🌞 Sunshine Band I just can't help myself! 📻 🎶💃🕺💐🍾🍷🍷

[@gregofthedump]

I once went to a party. Everyone was well-behaved. Years later, either that house, or a neighbouring one, played host to a murder. No party was involved.

[@bthomson]

Yes! Rarely do the two go together!

[@mariannehaworth9132]

You are doing a great public service. Thank you for these.

[@bthomson]

This💯

[@Brianvanmoustache]

Almost 1mill subs congrats Dr! Always love your channel, Ton of info

[@CesarClouds]

Another great analysis.

[@austinballard6815]

Thank you Dr. Grande for yet another wonderful analysis. I remember this case when it happened back in the summer of 2011. I really have thought peer pressure along with a rather under-supported home environment where it came to feeling accepted, loved and encouraged were at work here...a small town, really just a collection of boring housing subdivisions, with no real community for teenage persons to fit in and feel like they matter.... those kind of environments will make teens become anxious all the more and feel like if they are not accepted by their peers, they are hopeless. I grew up in era before much home internet, let alone cell phones and social media so I really can not say how those might have played into the local teen culture, but I do recall in my time as one, early 90s, peer pressure was definitely present and it was very significant. And THAT aspect I think was key here...but I also see even as of 2022, articles I have read on this case was he showed no apparent remorse for his actions even after being sent to prison. (He claims now he does, but he also was shown to had signed many 'autographs' for other prisoners, plus writing "It's Hammer Time" on newspaper article cutouts on his own case....and was known as Hammer Boy in prison. So, the desperate need for acceptance never stopped.

[@Life4all41]

Dr.G leave just enough time after he introduces himself for us to say hi back! Love that! Although maybe unintentionally

[@bthomson]

I thought I was the only silly one! But we all feel he is talking just to us! Sweet!🍰🎂🍭

[@randompetsandnuns]

Very exciting story, Dr. Grande! Thank you for your expert commentary. ✌🏻💜😇

[@leedabrowski835]

“Less murder is always a good idea” -Dr. Todd Grande

[@galatea742]

I love your work and joined your Patreon! I’d love to see you cover the Sarah Everard case. It’s definitely a big deal over here in the uk!

[@fionagregory9376]

Yes I agree with you. Britain is great, mainly cos we do not need guns.

[@eadweard.]

@@fionagregory9376 Everard could have certainly used a gun.

[@one-day-at-a-time4134]

@@eadweard. Idiot.

[@monkeygirl1894]

The mailbox part got me laughing. "Dude, no, you can't do that!" Says the one who stole something more valuable.

[@Georgieastra]

You might find the case of Colin Deferia quite interesting. He hired a gang of bungling hitmen to murder his daughter's ex boyfriend but they screwed up big time, despite blasting the victim with a shotgun at point blank range he survived.

[@zachjones6944]

Arson is apart of “some” triad if I recall.

[@robk3848]

Keep up the good content Grande!!✌🙏

[@michaelwagner8859]

I'll choose an analysis by Dr. Grande over an out-of -control "party' any day... 😊

[@Buttercup203]

Great one Dr G! And this kid was put on anti-depression meds AT 10 yrs old??? His brain was not even half developed yet? Idk? NOT THE BEST START for a child of 10 HENCE the murders! RIP PARENTS 💖💖💖💖🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@Buttercup203]

@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 HARD to “make a decision” when ur brain grew fogged in meds like he took!

[@bthomson]

Ok here is the big controversy in a couple comments together! Are people in control of themselves when their heredity and medical and physical state is against them? We would want to believe that at all times we have the choice but do we really? Answers may not yet be known!

[@Buttercup203]

@@bthomson kudos to ur reply as we DONT KNOW? But ppl under 21 yrs put on any anti-depressants are warned of suicidal tendencies (maybe homicidal/parricidal) we dont know! 👍👍 Thx

[@lc4011]

Did Hadley ever have a consistent diagnosis? Or is this psychopathy? Narcissism?

[@jenrutherford6690]

Violent evil nutcase will do

[@kellyfelly6645]

Dr. Grande you are amazing. I learned a parenting lesson You we're hilarious!!! With a very scary sad story. I laughed out loud

[@carolynbahr2303]

“…less murder is almost always a good idea…” Thank you for that line, Dr. Made my night!

[@davidmenke7552]

Woowee. Scary stuff, doc. Thanks for creeping me out per usual!

[@hernandezb2178]

“He was offended by someone stealing the mail but not concerned about the 2 bodies he had in the master bedroom 😔 and that he killed his parents! you know sadly, there are many cases like this one but not all of them end in murder. Dr Grande I wonder about the mental health process of children that kill their parents

[@kelliearnold8498]

One of my favorite shirts. Great job. Such a sad case.

[@susanperry6648]

Great sense of humor!!

[@elanahammer1076]

What a sad case of parental homicide. This makes me wonder if the dynamic between the parents and the son was a situation of blurred boundaries and too much yes answers in life? If a kid/ child does not hear the word no when they are younger, then they may test the parents boundaries. Just as saying no too much can cause a teen to revolt. We can only speculate and ask questions about what went wrong in this family picture. Thank you 🤔❤🇺🇸

[@miyolinux]

Okay...I'm a little freaked out... Our dream was to move to Florida. Our dream came true three months ago! HOORAY! (?) As a fan of Dr. Grande and other "true crime" types of media, I'm seeing that our dream may have actually been a nightmare. It seems that many of these types of stories take place in Florida. Yikes!

[@beautifulsunset4071]

That the issues started as a child and got progessively worse is so sad. Seems like his parents did what they could. What can parents\ society even do with teenagers like this? 😔

[@Yanxie]

Dr. Grande, I’d absolutely choose your analyses over any party.