Can Polar Beat Garmin? Polar's New Heart Rate Algorithm Tested!

[@gammelgemse]

The only thing that improved is the marketing. 💶📈

[@TheQuantifiedScientist]

Thanks for commenting!

[@jejomac4370]

@@TheQuantifiedScientist what non expensive watch will you recommend?

[@HenriqueArona]

@@jejomac4370Huawei Watch Fit 2. I recommend you watch his video about the Huawei Watch Fit 2.

[@ProductivityRunner]

​@@jejomac4370 Coros Pace 3 is the king of value

[@giridhranpalani3139]

The algorithm update got me excited..until I saw the numbers. Grateful for you holding these companies accountable for their statements and claims @Rob 🙏🏽

[@gedikoglu61]

I got a cheap Huawei Band 8 based the infos on this channel. And now I can see that my cheap Huawei Band 8 defeated these expensive and luxury watches. And yes, this makes me happy. :)

[@MassEveNova]

Guess why your Huawei is cheap.

[@lolerie]

Actually after 117 firmware it is much worse, 222 is bad e.g.

[@random_reader11]

​@@MassEveNova because of the cheap build quality and lack of features compared to actual smartwatches. but you have to admit that even cheap huawei have accurate sensors compared to these more expensive things

[@AtillatheFun]

Just a note:Polar also supplies the heart rate tracking in GShock Move watches.

[@jonathanhadiprasetyanto521]

Waiting for the Huawei Band 9 scientific review. Nice video as always!

[@flydwen]

Nice video. I'm eager to see your review of the Huawei Band 9 btw ! (do you already have an upload schedule ?)

[@juansaldana5408]

Always look forward to your reviews.. Purchased my first series 9 based on your reviews.. keep up the good work thanks Rob!!

[@Lavender-fk9gm]

When is the review of Huawei Band 9. I can't wait for that upcoming great review of yours 😁

[@GazTU1]

Polar's suggestion that your wrist is the problem is nonsense. Especially when so many competing watches have no problem at all with your wrist. The problem is with Polar! However it is still good to see some small improvements is heart rate measuring performance but it is still a work in progress for Polar.

[@fitgearhunter]

Hey! Can you test v2.1 when you get a second? My initial testing on this same algorithm was even worse than yours, but since the update 2.1 about four days ago it's at least visibly somewhat improved, wondering what the analytical details look like

[@ThunderRunner]

Any update on how it’s been since update? Really thinking about changing up from garmin but it’s hard to find updated info as these watches software evolves

[@ericoco620]

Hey Rob, appreciate all your videos! Just wondering what’s your pick for the best smartwatch that has a long battery life (ie. not an Apple Watch)?

[@kristinjohanne]

I would love to request a testing of the Suunto watches, either the Race or Peak Pro. The brand seems interesting and the specs as well! Would love to get a proper review on them!

[@astasuleo]

same here, the new Polar's 'exilir' sensor is very bad. When you increase the running activity and push yourself to more than 160-165 beats, the hearts beats are all over the place. Really i cannot trust it. I think Polar is not listening to us. The problems is not only you, but is me, is the other guy, then the next one, and so on. They just have this new sensor, which maybe somehow, is more difficult to program, or it is not as good as the previous ones.

[@nugrahaprihutama8789]

You should test the Huawei Band 9 Rob !

[@TheQuantifiedScientist]

Just ordered some :-)

[@craigward26]

@@TheQuantifiedScientistmany thanks , just receive my order this week

[@yasskb]

​​@@TheQuantifiedScientistYes ! I'm looking forward to see how the improved sleep algorithm performs

[@h6fc8ih]

​@@TheQuantifiedScientist it would be better if you tested huawei ultimate watch

[@VeerBhogamBhasundhara]

Why? Huawei is a joke on privacy

[@DigiDriftZone]

That's very disappointing, especially for weight lifters :( - sticking to my Apple Watch for now :)

[@LGTVQHD]

But why are you? Weightlifting was never about heart rate unless you are doing cardio in between sets. But yeah these watches s*ck.

[@Schwermetall]

​@@LGTVQHDyou are absolutely right 👍🏻 My only case is after a set of squats I can match the point where my heart rate is on a normal level to start the next set.

[@grimkur]

@@LGTVQHDpolar dosent count reps / sets neither tho

[@LGTVQHD]

@@grimkur really? Man, then Polar watches are definitely a no, no.

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@LGTVQHD Do an experiment, wear an Apple Watch and a FitBit and do an intense leg workout, where you do squats, sumos, RDLs, walking lunges, calf raises, etc - if you're pushing yourself you'll need about 2 minute rest between sets. The Fitbit shows 300-500 calories less because it cannot see your heart-rate peaks. That's why the Apple Watch is better.

[@vrea7260]

Please Mr. Rob review for Huawei Band 9, thanks in advance

[@ntelas46]

Chiming in to say I’ll be patiently waiting for Honor band 9 tests :)

[@Scheddy]

Doing some commenting. Would be nice to see a comparison between Polar H10 and Garmin HRM Pro+

[@OverlandExpedition]

Hi Rob, Sorry for changing the subject but upon reviewing your content I notice the lack of withings watches over the past few years, was worried they had stopped supplying you watches for test as your previous reviews were not flattering. I love your videos, still watched your content even though I was not looking fo a replacement for my apple watch series 6. But alas the battery is done and the screen is badly scratched, use it heavily every day so cant complain. Have been considering the Withings scan watch 2 /Nova,, have you any plans on testing these watches ? Or have you just given up on withings ? Thanks

[@mboiko]

Again and again, we see just how problematic wrist monitoring can be. What works for one person might not work for another...or at least not that well. It would be interesting to try and list all the variables that would make one watch work well for one person and not so well for another.

[@ralfrufus6573]

We need to make a decision to either buy or not the new Huawei Band 9. Now. It makes no sense to make a review of old bands as most bands are bought new. Auf Deutsch: Die meisten deiner Zuschauer wollen wissen, was sie sich kaufen sollen und die meisten kaufen Neuware. Es macht daher mehr Sinn, neue Geräte zu testen. Das Huawei Band 9 ist neu - und wir brauchen den Test JETZT! Nicht Wochen oder gar Monate nach Markteinführung!

[@paolo.mascarpone]

It would be great if vendors can introduce a watch calibration function to align internal and external sensors and make each watch more individual.

[@fanta019]

Hey Rob, great Testing. Pls can you make one for the Suunto Race titanium. In your list "ordered worst to best" i can't find it. Thanks!😊

[@donroque922]

Hello!! I would be nice if you could test some "Suunto" watch. Thanks!!

[@TheBloodprof]

Thank you very much for the work done! Waiting for a new video!

[@ralfrufus6573]

Have you already got your Huawei Band 9?

[@ralfrufus6573]

When will you receive Huawei Band 9?

[@Smithson52]

Still waiting for your OnePlus Watch 2 review 🙏

[@Andre-yg3qu]

I think next year xD idk why he still test terrible watches

[@DynamicWilliam]

Hey Rob! I've been following you for a while now and would like to use this comment to express my gratitude for your reviews. Really informative and fun to watch. (Personally, I would describe myself as a data geek). I am currently looking for a new chest strap and since I own a Garmin watch, I would like to purchase the chest strap from them (HRM Pro Plus). Unfortunately, I have not been able to find a dedicated review of this chest strap on your channel or a mention of it in one of your top picks ... Is there a specific reason for this? Personally, I would be very happy if you could test this chest strap and compare it against the H10 from Polar in the near future. It would also be great to evaluate the accuracy of the „manual lactate test“ that comes with the Garmin strap. Is there any way to reward you for your work? I've heard that when donating via superchat not that much of the money sent goes to the creator, so I'd like to "donate“ in another way. Have a nice evening and stay healthy! Best regards Tom PS Please forgive me for any grammatical errors. I'm not a native speaker

[@TheQuantifiedScientist]

Thanks Tom! Both for the suggestions and the compliments

[@damienbradley9209]

Do you plan on addressing the issues tons of Garmin users are seeing using the Elevate v4 HR sensor after software updates, not initial release. If you look in the forums you will see major issues with HR detection for FR 165, 265, 965, Fenix 7, Epix. Are there plans to retest these devices with recent firmware updates and see if the devices are now 10-20 beats of a HRM for even simple activites.

[@venelinbakalov5945]

Not specifically related to this video but great content! It is really intereating to see all the data! I've gone through some of your videos and it is interesting that Apple manages to get proper readings on all different categories and at the same time you have to put that data into different 3rd party apps. They should do something advanced like the Garmin connect so you have one place to manage all. Side question, by any chance do you know a good recommendation for how to measure heart rate during Jiu Jitsu training? I saw on google a lot of people use chest straps but at the same time with this kind of physical activity where you use your body weight and need to be as tight on the opponent as possible, I wonder won't that be really uncomfortable..

[@gilrose12345]

Can you test the Masimo W1 watch? I have one and it looks light years better than the ones you are testing for HR accuracy as well as 02 measurement.

[@RichardWerbin]

Some watches now report on overnight SPO2. Can you test them for accuracy? I am using a Garmin Vivoactive 5 that reports overnight SPO2 average about 92% with a minimum of 88%. That is very low and I plan to discuss this with my doctor. I just don't know if I can trust the accuracy..

[@Phat-rj3jo]

I am afraid it’s a bit late for Polar and Suunto. Forget Apple, they are way ahead in terms of wearables market share, Polar and Suunto is competing with the likes of Garmin in the niche fitness market and it’s going to be hard to catch Garmin.

[@RXP91]

Have you tried wearing the watch on the inside of the wrist? I've found with my Forerunner 955 i get a better signal there, even in cold weather

[@TheQuantifiedScientist]

Awesome idea! Yes, I have been playing with that idea :-)

[@nrgyu4508]

@@TheQuantifiedScientist The SAME idea has popped up in my mind yesterday and I've being testing ;-) Inside of the wrist trying to position it on 3 ways to test : closer to the radial artery inside/up, closer to the ulnar artery inside/down, or in the middle between radial and ulnar (of course not reading those but just to visualise the position). You have to tighten more, and it's not comfortable when you work with the hand 'except if you type on your keyboard ;-) ) The accuracy is still not good, I've done some tests when I'm in rest, sitting, standing up, some steps etc....Something is really wrong with their FW/SW...when I'm sitting down at 58bmp...h10/v3 are at the same; standing up, h10 goes on 74bpm; the V3 goes down to 48bpm?! It makes me CRAZY. I sit down H10, goes immediately , of course, down to 67bpm; V3 goes up to 90bpm, while I'm already in my chair for 1min, needing 2-3min more to catch the real 67bpm as the h10 is...The WALKING is even worst, sometimes you can have H10 at 70bpm and the V3 at 110bpm; So changing Upside DOWN WILL NOT improve. On the right wrist position the problem is the algorithme. They gave to fire the product Manger! It really sucks as the FW/SW issue...try to walk up and down some stairs?! the sensor itself is able to found the real HR when it "locks" on it. But for example if it shows 60bmp, you want to start the session, and somehow it starts from 90bpm (instead of 60bpm that has been there 1s ago), yes it's possible that I don't know how, it will use the 90 as the reference, going up to 120 for the simple walk, so you'll be wrong for a while as you're on going...if you stop and it "locks" back on 60bpm as real (or as ecg shows), it will use 60 as the reference point and goes up to 70/80/90 max walking, not crazy 120 even 125bpm simple low pace walking...bravo Polar. they believe more IT engineer vs the sensor itself I suppose...

[@HYM1100S]

Can you make testing on Suunto Vertical / Vertical Solar?

[@erva1976]

How does Polar sensors perform vs Garmin in none-exercise mode, eg during night for HRV and sleep tracking?

[@RH-cv1ge]

If I wear my V3 watch higher -- a full two-finger width above my wrist bone -- and tighter -- digging in a bit -- the readings are better than before, but still not great.

[@abdullahkhatri2907]

Hello, I admire your meticulous reviews. Considering the Huawei Watch Pro 4 and Huawei Watch Ultimate, but I'm hesitant to buy without your valuable insight. Do you plan on reviewing these models? Thank you.

[@RaheEl_Qaisrani]

Please test Huawei band 9 as Huawei is claiming it has changed its Sleep algo

[@boahey1000]

Hey Rob, I heared your channel likes comments... Question: Do algorithms adapt over time to a specific user, so that maybe some metrics or sleep tracking get more accurate after some weeks of usage? Maybe you have an answer. Thanks for your constant efforts!

[@TheQuantifiedScientist]

Hi ! Good question. I actually don't know since I didn't check the sleep tracking yet, but that is a good point. For some trackers this is needed, but others (e.g. Oura) don't have this. I also think it is more often scores that need to be calibrated (e.g. sleep score) and not the actual staging. It might matter if the age and sex are put in correctly

[@nrgyu4508]

@@TheQuantifiedScientist Hi, I've been asking myself the same question when I've see so poor results, willing to believe that they have anticipated this kind of scenarion, but sadly it's not the case. My V3 is as bad as the first hour...after 1 month now. The idea is so logical but I think that there are no many capable engineers in Polar anymore, if any...Nokia scenario. I know it from many companies cases...like in the life cycle. But for sure it will be done one day in some brands that invest in this research...Apple or Google might be in the future, or some start up with the young "genius" guy, enthusiasm engineer, before he moves to California...

[@IMM11]

Thanks a lot ,i was thinking to buy that x2pro,but now not anymore.Im really happy with my Huawei gt runner connected wit polar h10 chest strap.

[@Horpetii]

Hello, I have Vantage v3 and I use it for every day activity tracker as well. I do not want to wear H10 all day long and for sleep. :) Do you think the activity tracking and sleep tracking is too off as well? Based on your test and my same experience I will use H10 for all my relevant workouts even if it is less convenient (and payed high price for that new sendor watch). Please keep testing after major update if you can. 👍

[@IssieAndLife]

I’m here as to be honest my HR on my Grit X2 Pro seems to be accurate compared to my effort, at least for running. There may be a short delay sometimes is the only issue, but for consistent efforts it seems good. I’m considering buying the Verity Sense or H10 to verify.

[@pollensteyn]

Hoi Rob, would you say the Pacer Pro is now a more attractive buy than it was when it originally was launched? Thanks, fijne dag!

[@jeannemarcum15]

Mine (Vantage 2) has started resisting to respond to my touch to switch screens and check statistics. 😢

[@VRayDantesTrygorn]

Hi, Android user here. Better to get a Whoop (subscription 260 euros per year) or an old iPhone model with the Apple watch se? It's roughly the same amount of money and Apple would be a one-time buy, not a yearly subscription. I'm focused on sleep, not only tracking but also improving it. Do you think Apple health would make an impact?

[@AMARFPV]

@13:16... wait a minute... do i actually see the Ultrahuman on your finger ? :D , can't wait for the results !

[@TheSietse21]

I tested the gps accuracy a few days ago for a week and it is really disappointing for a dual band frequency watch.. way off sometimes and it takes sometimes 5 minutes to have a fix 😮 and when he found satellites it is just more then 100m off from the place i am standing. And heart rate is definitely not their best. So i send it back to polar. Happy with my garmin epix pro 2nd gen ❤️ okay garmins optical heart rate is not the best too but apple watch has but their battery sucks just 1 or 2 days is too worse. So looked for something in between and garmin has just a little good of everything battery gps accuracy and pretty good heart rate ❤

[@andreamaccaroni5671]

Dear Rob I already own an H10 band and an old polar ignite. I’d like to buy a new sport watch primarily to monitoring fitness status (sleep, HRV etc) and also to do some hiking (I’d like the map inside the watch) now I’m uncertain between polar vantage v3 and garmin fenix7 . What would you suggest ? Many thanks

[@oscar_privado]

Can you please test the One Plus Watch 2?

[@yashmanchanda5130]

Please test the ultrahuman air please!

[@somhrsh]

the scam company.... lol

[@hornsteinhof7592]

I know number vary from individual to individual, but formme polar watches have delivered thr most accurate heart rate data compared to an ecg strap (and watches from garmin, fitbit, coros, huawei). Doesnt matter if it was a cheap or an expensive one, even a Polar Unite beat them all out 🤷

[@loldatfunny]

always thanks for the useful info

[@ricoagustinus1576]

Waiting Huawei Band 9 review 🫶

[@1eikaramba1]

One Plus Watch 2 would still be very very interesting to review

[@sciopa5242]

Is there any chance to see the review of the mi band 8 pro?👀

[@Jiraiya06]

Could you review Huawei Band 9 because they said upgraded algorithm ans sensors

[@thingsofinterest603]

Hi Rob, I'm chronically ill and am looking for a device to accurately track my heart rate, blood oxygen levels, and sleep quality. The most important being heart rate. I am not active, but because of my condition almost anything can lead to an increase in heart rate and I need to be aware of it so I can take measures to calm down. I know you normally test the heart rate features based on some kind of activity like weight lifting and cycling, but what about just being at rest and then something like a video, movie, or conversation leading to increased heart rate? Would most of the devices you've reviewed be accurate in that way? I need it to be accurate in detecting spikes and rapid increases. I've watched all your Oura ring reviews but it seemed one of its weaknesses was heart rate tracking while taking part in activities. Do you know if it's accurate at tracking fluctuations for the circumstances I stated above? I don't want to wear a chest strap if possible, but I need accurate readings. I do not have an IPhone so those products won't work for me. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[@spectrixx]

I am in this situation as well. For an inexpensive and light weight option, Robs tests show that the Huawei Band 8 has very good heart rate monitoring across all activities and it has the option for heart rate to be displayed on the screen at all times.

[@thingsofinterest603]

​@@spectrixx Thanks! Unfortunately I need one that also can provide accurate oxygen levels. Do you know if any of the watches do that? Heart rate and Oxygen levels are by far the 2 most important things. I may end up getting 2 devices since the Huawei band you mentioned is very inexpensive

[@zaraizara2794]

as always, great review. awesome..

[@yinyun471]

Hi, could you test the redmi watch 4? Thanks in advance. Excellent videos !!

[@SeregaMokov]

Huawei Band 9, please!

[@KonradJuszkiewicz]

Hey Rob, I'm wondering if I should buy a Huawei GT 3 Pro or 4 Pro. I don't want to buy the normal 4 because with regard to your tests it went really bad at tracking heart during the weighlifting Do you think that 4 pro should at least be as good as its older brother? I want to buy it because it has got several useful options which 3 doesnt have, but my main goal is to buy a Smartwach which will show data really accuratelly. Do you have any propositions, besides apple watches which doesnt correlate with Android. I really appreciate your videos!

[@248rok]

Huawei gt 4 pro doesn't exist yet 😅

[@KonradJuszkiewicz]

@@248rok you're right! Thanks for correcting

[@Andre-yg3qu]

i read on amazon comments that gt3 pro is really good but it works only with huawei smartphones so idk... i think that if u dont have a huawei smartphone then it s strangled

[@248rok]

@@Andre-yg3qu hey this is definitely not true. I had oneplus 8 pro. Now vivo x100 pro. My frinds have iphones... It works on all. The only thing is that it work best with huawei>android> apple. Battery life is worse on apple and some function doesn't work like answer notification in some cases.

[@Madsnifas]

@@Andre-yg3qu not true, but you do need to instal the huawei health app manually, downloading the apk. I had a GT3 pro paired with my Smasung S22 ultra with no issues.

[@martin_in_the_alps]

At 2:00 the fluctuations from the H10 at 8:11 and 8:18 seems odd to me. Could it be a false reading?

[@tomazkosuta3526]

please test SUUNTO products.

[@TheQuantifiedScientist]

I was in contact with them , but they stopped replying. Might buy a new device when it comes out :-)

[@RedGunBullets]

Never heard of them but looks like they’re nervous about a actual scientific test

[@user-ri4xe7tw7r]

@@TheQuantifiedScientist Maybe people would be willing to help you buy watches via crowdfunding.

[@Legenwait4itdary]

can you test the polar variety sense with android app sleep as android?

[@MinotaurDIGITAL]

Um. So how do we know that Polar doesn't suck as much at chest straps as much as they suck at wrist watches? (Thereby, invalidating all the videos on this channel)?

[@brianquigley1940]

Ironic... a new Polar watch (algorithm) doesn't correlate that well with a Polar chest monitor...

[@wurf5336]

Which watch are you using? :)

[@federicosalvioli3082]

I didn't find performance data of withings scanwatch 2 and nova will you perform performance analysis of those newer devices?

[@anand7430]

Love your videos , just wanted to tell you, I got a Redmi Watch 3 (non active) for 31USD.

[@Donald5557_]

Could you please make a video on the ScanWatch 2. I want to know if it’s a good buy. Thanks so much.

[@nana-ob4yw]

hi rob am looking for budget smartwatch build in gps, what do you recommends for running and cycling?

[@soa6550]

I would like to wach you testing the Xiaomi Watch S3

[@LionelsHeart]

My Apple Watch Ultra drops out completely during exercise, leaving big gaps in the data chart. I have to wear my Garmin to view constant heart rate during an activity.

[@pieropca2640]

What about testing Honor devices (like Honor Watch 4)? it should behave same as Huawei i think, but would be good to test it

[@jacobstaff549]

Can you do video compare PNOE divice and polar ECG about calories burned...

[@mheliantanedo3062]

Can you test the new huawei band 9?

[@TheQuantifiedScientist]

Will do!

[@maskedvalour]

Am planning to buy a chest hrm. Which one do you suggest.polar h10 or garmin hrm pro plus. Am a hardcore athlete .

[@nestorduck]

Any news on a one plus watch 2?

[@samvexez8635]

Why did you remove the samsung classic 4

[@GrammatonC]

9:39 , hi can you share a current list ?

[@markii550]

I'm sorry Polar. Vantage 3 is very nice and with interesting features but it's also too expensive for this performance. I choose/prefer Garmin FR 255 or FR 165/265 with the amoled display. Low reliability of "European" sportwatches (even Amazfit Balance seems better).

[@chris7503]

For a Sports Watch Company, the results are very very bad

[@Mr0utsid3r]

almost any watch can have struggles with intervals, i bet if you include at least one steady session for bike or running the results would be different ;)

[@AdhiPutraBahar-cd1ri]

Waiting fot huawei band 9 scientific review 🙏🙏

[@veronicazimmerman3294]

Ughh…. Why can’t garmin beat apple? I want to go back. I keep hitting the pause button on my apple …

[@NightyNightx]

Can you please review Redmi watch 4 🥺

[@davgor7170]

can i completly turn off bluetooth in this watch?

[@Lasombra08]

Airplane Mode.

[@krystiankierzek6034]

Why garmin watches with the same heart rate sensor have different score?

[@Lasombra08]

Different size, weight, build etc.

[@flitschflatsch1096]

Just got my V3 today and compare it to my apple watch for a walk. Avarage beats were 15 morte than my aw. Disaster even cheap watches do a better job. Cant recommend this watch. 😢

[@quest666PL]

So Polar said its the customers fault and their product is perfect. Man I dont know how these companies can lie like that ? Every company says the same thing: our product is superb, premium and perfect and its your fault.

[@talkingmonkey7]

Huawei band 9 review

[@erva1976]

Why so much focus on accuracy when everyone knows wrist HR simply cannot be that accurate? Polar has tonnes of articles on it and it’s there for reading. If you want reliable HR get a Polar H10 and any watch you like.

[@nomoshiti]

If Polar can't stop advertising their once again improved HR accuracy people can't stop saying that it's bullshit.

[@OdsyMJ]

If that's the case then why do watches like Apple Watch consistently have almost perfect correlation with the chest strap?

[@nunocosta6994]

I had one garmin and one polar. They are only marketing. A simple Huwei fit 2 is better.

[@lopez37]

Short answer: NO.

[@saurabhray5931]

Hello @TheQuantifiedScientist Can you please make a review on Forerunner 265 or 265s preferrably I saw your review of 965 and 165 and saw a good deviation between the two Wondering how 265s would perform as it is in my bucket list Thank you!

[@alandlebq8]

GARMIN Forerunner 165

[@DavidRodriguez-rq6hh]

Pleaseeeee HUAWEI Watch 4 Pro space edition !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@trafficante]

AW it's the best choice, no doubt

[@TheQuantifiedScientist]

Yes, except battery life ;-)

[@trafficante]

@@TheQuantifiedScientist battery sucks! :’(

[@akshaypatil1287]

Please suggest accurate watch , I do mostly weight training I have android phone