Polar Vantage V3 : Scientific Heart Rate Test

[@TheQuantifiedScientist]

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[@b.4081]

Cranking out a lot of reviews recently! I just realised it means you’ve been working out an insane amount as well. 😄 thanks for putting in the literal effort!

[@williamstevenson2649]

Wow! That's about the worst HR of the many you have tested recently. Looks like they've rushed it out before proper testing, relying on the 'new HR sensor'!

[@MrMorton]

HlR monitoring in watches has made huge improvements in the last two years and I feel testing like you have been a massive contributor to that improvement. These results are astonishingly poor for an upper brand. Hope they can get it fixed.

[@timeTegus]

when a 600$ watch has worse tracking then a 80$ watch x.x

[@gauravthapa6060]

This channel is an eye opener! Every other metric that these watches/ tracker markets depend on upon accuracy of the sensors! No matter how cheap or expensive if the basics are not done right , I mean what's the point of selling them? Just for profits fooling consumers? Amazfit designs the best watches for budget but their sensors are crap and haven't learned anything over the years. Thankfully the Fitbit charge 6 made some progress recently, I think we owe TQS alot for impartial data based reviews which is the way it should be.

[@FJesusLSanchez]

@@timeTegusSoftware will become better, it always happens when new generation of sensors appears

[@LogicException]

As someone who has considered getting this watch: I am shocked at the result. Thank you for your great work

[@malokey7]

Me too lol.

[@Pragmatist101]

Fact is Polar have lost their status as the most accurate HRM. By pursuing the wrist based OHR market they have made a bad mistake and simply lost to APPLE. All Polar's apps/functions (sleep monitoring, stress, calories etc) are now based on algorithms that are feed inaccurate HR ! So not trust worthy and as inaccurate as cheaper brands

[@TheZlantan1926]

i am not shocked at all,i had the vantage v and it was a terrible device

[@erichweggelaar1320]

Could you perhaps do a follow up test with the vantage v3, post firmware updates (ver 2.3.3)?

[@mauricioernestodesouza6073]

I wanted to thank you Bob for the reviews, as it helped me buy the watch I use in my workouts. Before I had an Amazfit T-Rex that had a problem with the GPS. As the problem was very serious, I had to buy another watch. It was after seeing the reviews here on your channel that I chose to buy the Huwaei GT-Runner. It was definitely a good choice. Thank you for your help.

[@francobellomo9979]

Hi Rob, excellent review as always. It would be great if you could check it again in a few months because according to several videos I saw, the HR sensor got considerably worse in an update. It's really strange that Polar releases such a bad sensor

[@astasuleo]

Great review. I have the Polar Vantage 3 since its release date. Also have other watches to compare. I think is good and accurate as Garmin Fenix 7pro and EPIX pro. Yesterday Polar updated the firmware so it would be really nice to have a revision review from your side to check out the results once again.

[@RallihSarl]

I see Fenix 7 performing same as V3, but still that is consider to be top of the line. Surprising results for sure. I've been with Polar a long time and worn Polar Pacer Pro and had outstanding results. I really hope this improves as well. I have the H10 as well but I really enjoy to not have to use it for my runs.. Great video as always. Thanks!

[@stephanreiche3072]

Great Test! Can please you do this test again after some firmware updates?

[@mello1016]

Can't wait for indepth pixel 2 review

[@stevemcknight5521]

Well done. A very informative video.

[@antonmoolenaar713]

I must replace my Polar Ignite 2 as after almost 3 years (of continuous use) battery life has deteriorated so much that it doesn't last for more than 23km running. Because of this review, I am going to switch to another branch. That is a pity, because I like the Polar app and the Polar Ignite sleep score.

[@lucjangego971]

I would love to see an update on that watch. They pushed some software updates recently. Thank you for your great work. I keep buying stuff on Amazon over your link :). One suggestion: please present a comparison between various watches of the correlation (R) values for running, as running is probably the most common use case. Thank you!

[@lgnd-lm6ug]

There should be some sort of standardized test for these before allowing them into the market. I can't believe reputable companies are still selling new devices with such poor accuracy in practically 2024. And people keep buying them ?!

[@vitalis]

As a Polar user of cheaper models this test blows my mind. How are such poor results possible? Can you do the sleeping test as well? Someone forward this to Polar.

[@Pragmatist101]

Polar don't seem to care

[@mikeb5613]

I’ve been wearing the V3 24*7 since November. After the early December update of firmware, it was worse. I’m thinking of going back to my V2 which was better. You would have thought Polar would have performed similar tests as yours prior to announcing the V3? Have they become Boeing to watches with flying doors in flight?

[@kp66udv]

Still waiting for your review on the new ScanWatch 2! Keep waiting since you are the best reviewer out there. TQ for your hard works!

[@BogotaEnglish]

Because of TQS Rob I bought a Polar H10. As excellent as this channel. I hope Polar can sort it out in their watches.

[@gamepass4764]

Please tell me when there will be a full review of the pixel watch 2

[@QW-AI]

Please, amazfit balance

[@SMarkGee]

@thequantifiedscientist HRM during weightlifting - *Overall* Whoop is the most accurate for determining **strain** because it incorporates accelerometer data and uses Velocity-based training calculations. H10 may record the heart rate well or more accurate but heart rate alone cannot and does not correctly determine strain in weightlifting exercises! only VBT can. it's different for endurance training

[@mountainvd]

I wonder whether Polar had an official comment on that. Do they acknowledge software/firmware issues? Hopefully this review will act as a kick on their butt to fix things.

[@wrdlbrumfd]

Please consider doing a test of the combination of a "simple" tracker (Xiaomi bands e.g.) and the "Sleep as Android" app. I am using this since several years and tried several smartwatches in parallel and my feeling was that the results of the app made much more sense (cycles etc.). But I have no fully neutralized setup as you have. Thank you.

[@pauljones9150]

Love the work you do. Here's a comment for algo engagement!

[@neuschf]

One thing DCR said in his review is that he had impressive HR performance on the previous firmware, but much worse performance with the latest update. He suspects they reduced the power draw of the sensor or something. Might be worth it to re-evaluate on a later firmware :s

[@TheQuantifiedScientist]

Thanks for sharing! Yes, I read his review to make sure others were also having similar experiences 😊.

[@ZuikiaiANDco]

​@@TheQuantifiedScientist I hope you will repeat your tests, if new firmware with fixed HR will appear... As such V3 failure could be last nail in Polar coffin...

[@michelgombert5200]

Hi, thanks for this amazing test and datas; were the recordings made after the software update?

[@gamepass4764]

Hello. Nice video, pls tell me when the Huawei watch 4 review will be?

[@ImpalerVlad]

Polar went from pioneers to greedy imitators.

[@Ischim0n]

Well, you just saved me 600€. Thank you! Not buying polar vantage v3 until there's an update from polar. The performance is seriously pathetic for 600€.

[@Arczii1337]

Do you have excel datas of already tested watches? I would like to compare all of them with every tested aspects.

[@luaphut9402]

please, will you test Amazfit Balance?

[@salasart]

Could you please do a review of the ultrahuman ring air?

[@timeTegus]

god video ! could you also make a video about the Polar Ignite 3 or does it have the same sensor? also can you test the sleep tracking of both polar watches?

[@rajahua6268]

Would love to see Polar H10 compare to the actual HR test such as multi-leads ECG.

[@NostalgicMem0ries]

it still minibubbles how can apple lead even pro watches that are made for hr measurements..... maybe its square form?

[@NostalgicMem0ries]

@@Knedlikplneji dont get why other brands cant just copy that sensor, it been out for many year, anyone can buy their products, deconstruct and check whats working so well...

[@supercurioTube]

I just started to watch but I wonder if you had the same results as Ray from DC Rainmaker, who had okay readings on an early prerelease firmware then trash after updating.

[@nababnegue]

Polar would be better off re releasing the V800, I tried Vantage M and Pacer Pro and even Garmin Instinct 2X and I keep going back to the V800 paired with the H10 hr monitor. The V800 still has the most visible screen in any conditions, cool feature like taps and heart touch and the Polar Flow website is still the best for analysing your training sessions. Reviewers obsess over GPS tracking but none seem to test for an accurate and consistent pace speed, which is far more useful.

[@JanZamani]

Would you be able to do tests on resting heart rate? This is the type of heart rate I typically use, to give a rough idea of my cardiovascular health.

[@Jezyk05JR]

Hi ! Your tests are great, will you test Amazfit Balance?

[@Ordinary-Hendrik]

Thanks for the review! How fast is the vantage v3 can track heart rate in daily wear? I have problem with ignite 3 and vantage v2, i have to wait minutes to get to the proper heart rate before I am doing workout.

[@imperatormouse2735]

1:35 Hey what app(s) do you use to get real-time HFR displayed on your phones during cycling? I am unsure between the V3 and the Garmin FR965 which is able to fly me to the moon but unable to show a Zone 1-5 real-time dashboard during indoor cycling (Polar Flow does have that function).

[@arethusas]

So, after about 4 months passed away, DID polar improved the problem?

[@mauricioernestodesouza6073]

Polar probably doesn't test the sensors in new products against previous models. The brand has an excellent product, the H10, but it is clear that there is a gap between the development of both products.

[@v6imlen]

Great stuff, really interesting to see. Btw do you plan to do the new ScanWatch 2 with the new sensors as well - christmas and black friday are around the corner, would be good to know all the options.

[@abhaisankar7168]

Hey …really appreciate your work , helps many take a very informed buying decision. Could you Please do a review of ‘CMF WATCH’ by NOTHING

[@Michael-j9j1l]

is this something that can be changed with a firmware update? Or does this mean this watch is a dud and should not be purchased?

[@exposed8674]

Any chance for Amazfit Balance ? It seems like it has been improved a lot.

[@lost_in_asia]

I hope you are testing the Suunto Race now...

[@brianquigley1940]

Ironically, you can pair your H10 chestband to your V3, and the watch will record the H10 values. I do this with my Unite watch, which is useful because it gives you extra info in the app about calorie consumption.

[@suppsuppa2773]

Hi Rob, wondering if you are down to make a comparison between the H10 and the Magene h303. I've a buddy of mine that's telling wonders about that. Plus I'm a cheapo and where I'm those the h10 strap never get discounted, so I'm not confident enough to buy the magene and sitll waiting since forever for the polar to come down in price

[@williamstevenson2649]

Pity- would have been good if the HR worked! Useful ECG. I'm still very pleased with my Polar Verity Sense and H10

[@pmcmpc]

It was really good on the old firmware .... hopefully they fix this. It'd be a disaster if they leave it.

[@_marsmaennchen5105]

Can you please make a video about the new ScanWatch 2?

[@PicklIeRick]

I just want to know how your HR dips from 150+ to 80 in two minutes?! My HR would never...

[@greb.]

I'd love a look at the Remi watch 3

[@keithdarby75]

I've had optical HR sensor watches for a few years (currently using a Garmin Fenix 5) and have never relied on the built in optical sensor for HR tracking while exercising. It always has flaws and almost each sport has to have algorithms specifically designed for it in order for it to work 'okay'. With these sports watches - Polar Vantage V3 included - you typically pair another HR sensor such as a chest strap or an optical sensor that can be worn on the arm (which will generally produce better results than the wrist). There are a lot of variables with optical sensors including bone structure around the wrist, colour of skin, thickness of skin and even how much hair is there so different people will always have more or less success. Also - aside from firmware issues some have noted - the physical shape of the watch itself could be a reason for reduced performance too. It it doesn't sit as neat on a users wrist it may produce worse results - so someone else might actually have a different experience. Ideally in this test it would be repeated with a number of users (large small, different skin colours, male/female etc) - you might find you are the ideal design candidate! For me the main reason for the optical HR sensor is tracking the HR during the day or night for recovery purposes and I understand with this one you can also utilise the built in sensor to perform various tests that Polar used to require you to wear a separate HR belt so it is still a useful addition even if it can't be relied upon during exercise. I believe this type of test is a great one and when they do get to the point where the on wrist sensor can accurately match the chest band H10 for all people of all shapes, sizes and colour then that will be a great day as we can ditch all those additional sensors. However I think that is a way off at the moment - if it will ever come. Determining the HR by the change in reflected light through the skin as the blood flows is not the best starting point so I'm not sure they'll ever be on a par with a chest sensor which is picking up the electrical signals as the heart beats. Walking, moving, jumping, clenching your fist, vibrations on handlebars etc are always going to produce a change in blood flow that the sensor has to filter - you are essentially trying to get a 'clean' signal from a noisy one. Anyone paying around £500 for a watch like this will almost certainly be looking at an additional HR sensor as you really should not rely on an optical sensor in my opinion - especially one worn on the outside of the wrist (you'll get better readings if you wear it on the inside of your wrist in most cases but it's uncomfortable). In short the accuracy of the built in optical sensor on this type of watch should actually be a fairly minor part of your decision process when purchasing in my opinion. To be honest if they released the watch without the sensor at all it would still be an expensive watch and would still do 90% of the job it does now - just with a paired additional sensor which 90% of people buying this watch will be doing regardless.

[@IMM11]

Maybe some updates will fix this V3 ?

[@quinnchau7166]

Will you do the Scanwatch 2 soon?

[@MATIvmr]

Now Suunto Race 🎉

[@Jafste]

Hello, i am on a fence on buying an apple watch or the H10 for monitoring my exercise, i do runs for 10km and play padel. Any tips on what would be better to monitor those things?

[@GiedriausTube]

Wait for the update. Should fix the blurring.

[@matipopczyk]

Hi my question is which watch is better for me. I’m football player ⚽️ and I do extra training sessions like jogging, intervals, bike, swimming, gym or just play football. I’m wondering about polar pacer pro and forerunner 255. What do you think and maybe you’ve got some different option for me. Please respond 🙏

[@Daniel-Condurachi]

When do you plan to release the results for the Suunto Race?

[@alwinsebastian7499]

so a polar watch with worse results than cheaper smart watches ?

[@dragonwolf2370]

Will you review new Garmin ECG heart monitor accuracy on fenix etc vs apple?

[@shawn2481]

Did I miss the sleep? Anyone know how it did for sleep?

[@noadds]

could you please put brandnew amazfit balance to tests?

[@suntzuthesecond]

I was seriously considering this watch, but now I've completely lost interest. Thank you.

[@salasart]

Could you please do a review of the ultrahuman ring air Sleep tracking? (this device doesn't require a subscription like the Oura ring)

[@sahabatyorofun6552]

Please review Suunto Race 🙏🙏

[@eezeepee]

Who else wants the full review for the Pixel Watch 2?! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@derksenjenny]

For me it’s only Apple or huawei, I really want a good hr measurements. It’s disappointing how less watches do that right 😅now

[@jurehrovat5425]

Will there soon be a test of Xiaomi Watch 2 Pro?

[@djroscoe77]

Hi, Thank you for presenting the data. Hearing your interpretation of the graph shown at 3:40, is it not fair to expect some of a lag? Considering that the H10 measures electrical activity and the optical sensor measures the pulse (cardiac output). Hence, there is likely to be a delay while the blood circulates to compensate for the increased demand, initially adjusting with vasoconstriction and then dilating when the stroke volume adjusts to the demand.

[@relaxingbehavior252]

What about Amazfit balance we are waiting

[@vincwong8498]

Hi, can u do a test for Garmin Instinct Crossover?

[@Mauricemeijer81]

Release a new watch after such a long wait, and than this poor results, not good for brand reputation …😮

[@ygln1997]

It is already very clear that this man will never review any Casio watch with a heart rate sensor nor the Garmin Instinct 2X. What does he have against the Casio brand?

[@GK-qc5ry]

Considering their chest strap accuracy their watch isn't good.

[@Kreesher]

Can you do next the cmf watch pro from nothing?

[@wimkrol2233]

Polar doesn’t give a discount for the V3 on Black Friday 😂

[@henning7378]

1:26 each video starts with saying that polar h10 chest strap "can in general record heart rate very accurately". But why though? Can't it be that this device has major flaws. I feel like a test with 5 different trackers at the same time would be interesting to see what tracker deviates when and how.

[@TheQuantifiedScientist]

Good question! There should be a pop-up card showing at that timestamp to a video where I discuss a scientific publication where they tested the h10 in different scenarios and found it better than the gold standard Holter ECG for HR during sports

[@Chapeu_de_aluminio]

gw4 improve our results in 2023?

[@innumkedaikala7341]

CMF by Nothing Watch Pro review please.

[@RicardoBird92]

A test for the Xiaomi Watch 2 pro please 😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@mallolollo]

when xiaomi watch 2 pro ? i'm curious ! thx

[@QuintuM100]

I like wearing luxury watches but i need a wearable thats not too big like bands or whoop that counts steps and gives me the right accurate readings of steps and heart rate, I dont know if you can help me with that, I really like the whoop but is there any way to make it count my steps please help

[@snowfox2766]

@TheQuantifiedScientist could u test casio DW-H5600

[@radoslavstoev4550]

It's funny how the much cheaper Coros pace 3 outperforms a lot more expensive watches.

[@abdullahalnakib7836]

Please test Mibro GS pro

[@Максим-ф7ц9ж]

I think polar fix this'll mistakes. Because new watch and new sensors

[@pauljones9150]

This must be a ai or software issue?

[@flitschflatsch1096]

What a shame. F for polar

[@milanpintar]

what the hell is Polar doing?

[@paypalmymoneydfs]

What everyone else in the space is doing, using useless optical HR sensors to profit

[@minee7376]

redmi watch 3 test please 🥺

[@waelahmed4672]

I have one exited experiment for you, put any fabric between all "smartwatches " and it will read for u all oxy ,heart rate ,bp ,etc. 😂 just cheating us my dear

[@TommeeKnocker]

Why do manufacturers continue to bring out watches with terrible fitness tracking, the only reason I can imagine is that most people do not research and just buy watches for looks and brand. I am out of contract with my mobile this black Friday, so I will be going over to apple, I thought about Huawei but it would bug me that all the sleep functionality was pretend Mickey Mouse toy watch standard. Looks like a 15 plus with an SE watch for me.

[@stopPlannedObsolescence]

waiting for ultrahuman ring