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[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Before you comment, "it's not a real test unless you ride it on the road with some weight"...Did that this weekend and this combo worked frigging awesome in index and friction.

[@mahiru20ten]

I wonder if you've checked Sensah's offering for the groupset.

[@typhoid77]

As a mechanic I love this content

[@Lousysuperior]

Same!

[@somn__]

It is worth mentioning that if someone was going to buy a Microshift bar end for the purpose of shifting an 11 speed cassette with an Eagle rear derailleur, they would probably be better off with the Microshift BS-SR-M11-R, which pulls the 1.12 X-Actuation ratio that both Sram 11 speed mtb and Eagle use. Its not surprising that the Microshift BS-M11 you used and linked in the description works, because 11 speed Shimano Dyna-Sys has a pull ratio of 1.1. But if someone was buying parts they might as well get the correct cable pull, not one that is off by .02. Though if someone was buying a cassette, derailleur and bar end shifter, to do a similar setup, it wouldn't be any more expensive to get an NX eagle cassette and a Microshift BS-SR-M12 shifter, to go with that NX eagle derailleur. That would have the same range as the setup you show here, and 12 speeds, using parts that are designed to be compatible with each other, for around the same price. In my opinion Microshift makes enough different bar end shifters that you could have a variety of economical, wide-range "mullet" setups using one without any hacks or questionable compatibility. I think a more interesting challenge is finding a set up that uses a dual control lever, and has the same range as the expensive AXS Eagle setup you reference in these videos. I'd imagine a decent amount of riders would not view a bar end shifter as a comparable alternative to AXS Eagle. Thats why I hope you do someday try the Microshift SB-M110 dual control shifter + Box 2 X-Wide derailleur 11 speed setup I suggested last video!

[@vaulthecreator]

Samuel This comment needs to be pinned BIG TIME 👍🏻

[@davelafontaine9832]

Russ, you make the internet better. I have zero interest in what you’re trying to achieve with the budget mullet concept but I watched every minute of your video and might each contribute $ (maybe. no promises). I love how you tinker and bring us along for the ride. Carry on!

[@jasonbrune2865]

Love the Cave. Keep them coming.

[@arobins74]

The "Cave of Bad Idea"s 80s style video intro cracks me up. 😂

[@benzzoy]

Geek/nerd alert: Shimano Dyna-Sys (MTB) 10-speed and 11-speed shifters pull 3.4 and 3.6 mm of cable per shift, respectively. SRAM 11-speed and 12-speed MTB rear derailleurs are identical, cable pull-wise, and will shift 11-speed cassettes with 3.5 mm of cable actuation per shift. Either way, one is 0.1 mm or about 3% off per shift from ideal/spec, so it's not surprising your mix-n-match kinda worked. For best effect, key in the derailleur adjustment for the middle of the cassette, and the discrepancy will be halved at the top and bottom gears. (Trivial: 0.1 mm difference in cable pull per shift is about the same discrepancy that Shimano 7-speed shifters have from 8-speed, and those interchange well enough, especially with a floating top pulley on the derailleur)

[@johncrowley1203]

For a little perspective: 0.1mm is approximately .004 inches (four one-thousandths of an inch).

[@mykytajex2248]

@@johncrowley1203 I only work in light seconds. What's the conversion?

[@johncrowley1203]

@RollinRat You're right, of course. I was off by .000063 inches (sixty-three millionths of an inch), which is why I employed the word "approximately".

[@johncrowley1203]

@@mykytajex2248 One light second is defined as equal to 11,802,852,672,000 (eleven trillion, eight hundred two billion, eight hundred fifty two million, six hundred seventy two thousand one thousandths of an inch. However, it is important to keep in mind that light seconds are based on the distance a photon travels in free space, meaning without interference by any gravitational fields. This condition can be difficult to meet in a typical bike repair environment. Do you need that in metric?

[@mykytajex2248]

@@johncrowley1203 I think I'll be ok.

[@klg200]

I just combined an 11-42 cassette with a 105 derailleur... and it worked without any modifications! I also have a 30/46t crankset, making for 20 gear inches. You might try this one out.

[@brinkrn4860]

Ya. Don’t listen to the haters. I’ve been here from that start of the channel and watch every video. You’re one of the best modern bike channels out there imo.

[@bmcossette]

Loved the opening! It reminded me of watching sitcoms in the late 80s when I was a kid. Keep up the good work.

[@gamby16a]

If this pisses bike snobs off, I'm all in. The Cave is a great series.

[@filipwalicki3304]

Yes! Don't let negative people affect your life in any way, because thats when they win.

[@gamby16a]

@RollinRat Fairly regular occurrence in cross. Quite a few fast singlespeeders in the geared classes around me.

[@whirving]

Every time I see that cog set I think to myself "look at that pie plate". Just looks massive every time I see it, works good though, not going back to a triple.

[@chrlsprz1]

Love the intro! Also your face of astonishment was priceless.

[@joshmccullock4996]

This is a seminal moment in cycling journalism.

[@stillshunter]

Love the tinker. Love the banter. “OK internet” 😂 ....seems OK Computer has evolved and networked. 🤣

[@bikesbeardsbeers94]

I love the nerdery that is going on here. Beyond the bike reviews, these are my favorite videos you produce! Keep it up Russ!

[@AdventuresWithDaniel]

I love the #caveofbadideas. One of my fave series so far! Nice job making the best out of winter

[@scottcottontx]

Congrats! I think we have all spent some time in the cave of bad ideas, but your willingness to document your cave runs is admirable. That feeling when something works that has no business working is the best. If we only did things that we know will work, nothing would ever get accomplished and we would be chasing mammoths with rocks.

[@davidbierbaum4881]

I think we have a new meme now. "Okay Internet!"

[@Tomcat6541]

4:55 And 8:44 LOL... I love this channel! :) Watch the whole thing! worthwhile! I love the friction shifter on my old steel beater bike. The ability to trim the shifting is awesome. BUT I'll admit that I NEVER know what gear I'm in.

[@RussellSchmidt]

10 speed shifter, 11 speed cassette, 12 speed derailleur ... "it's a hot mess people!" - Thanks Russ for the awesome video. Since I'm trying to figure out my setup for gravel events this summer your videos are a huge help. I might just try this bar end / eagle rear derailleur setup myself. Sure beats SRAM's official mullet AXS build in terms of price. Loving the cave of bad ideas.

[@loganwiebe1427]

Mtb derailleurs don’t have barrel adjusters because they are found on the shifters. So the inline adjuster is only necessary with mullet builds like this one. An easy thing to overlook if your planing to do this your self.

[@kimrice394]

Be prepared for the ninja assassins SRAM/Shimano will be sending when they get notified of this video🤓

[@timfitzpatrick1924]

Enjoyed the OCD comment immensely. Great video and fun to play with gear.

[@bertb3731]

Love your willingness to experiment - keep it up!

[@bobj8611]

The best bad ideas I have seen. Keep it up.

[@msmendis]

I love the fearless creativity.

[@leqin]

Okay well I own most of the bits on this, so I hope its been worth me waiting in line with all the other pathlesspedlars to see the amazing Russ work some magic. Okay unpause and lets watch.

[@leqin]

Oh wow.

[@OriginalGabriel]

We call that a "bown tune". It works, we don't know why, it's a bit sloppy at points, but it works. 99% of our year round commuters are "brown tunes", and God damn I love them; they keep us on our toes with their requests

[@carolleenkelmann3829]

Your cave of bad ideas is great. No way would I be doing this sort of thing myself but I like to know how things work. What better way. Many thanks and Merry Christmas and Happy New year.

[@ackthet]

I really like your channel. I'm not quite #SuppleLifing but I love your perspective and reviews!

[@sircrackien]

Russ, its worth looking into an inline barrel adjuster, the reason mountain rear ders dont have barrel adjusters is because they have them at the shifter (the better location). When I do 1x?? on my Salsa Fargo and Warbird I put and inline adjuster near the bars so that I can make my setup adjustments in the stand and on the fly (while actively riding). A number of companies make these, but I like the jagwire ones the most of the versions that I have used.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Bombora doesn’t have frame stops. To splice it in would be a PITA for these videos since I am constantly changing housing length.

[@GrahamAtDesk]

Makes sense that you wouldn't use an online adjuster here Russ, but it might be worth showing one to the audience if you have one lying sound. I bet there's a few people out there who don't realise they're an option.

[@danielmontgomery7948]

Great series! You've tapped into the wellspring of DIY-ers everywhere! For info -no barrel adjusters for MTB rear derailleurs - cuz they are on the MTB shifters.

[@swray2112]

Great video, just FYI...switching from friction to index won't change the amount of cable pulled. The same distance is still covered. Think of it like a clicked or declicked aperture ring on a lens. The click (index) just gives a predetermined distance between open & closed down (high & low gears in this analogy ).

[@granthertzing3548]

I got so excited when I saw this in my inbox can, but I know it had to be to good. Premiers are a big no no.

[@jirdesteva]

Great job Russ. Happy holidays all !

[@brandonmoore7797]

I'm running the 12 speed Microshift bar end with a GX rear derailleur and an e*thirteen 9-50 12 speed cassette. Works great. Would be good and cheap if I went to the NX like you and did a Sunrace cassette.

[@jeffreyardziejewski2547]

Great video!!!!!!that is sweet how you put that together! Sunrace owes you!!!!be safe out there (SRAM May want you to have an “accident”)

[@JasonBevers]

They have little Velcro strap that are used for electrical cable management that might help as opposed to masking tape. Just a suggestion.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Masking tape works just fine.

[@benv4925]

FYI - Sram mtb barrel adjusters are on the shifters which is actually much easier to use than road barrels adjusters located on the derailleur.

[@thecheshirecat5564]

This video has been saved and I already started to look funny at my drive train. So it appears you can shift a SRAM eagle RD on a 11 speed cassette with a Shimano 11 speed mountain index. Actually, I have STIs talking to a Shimano MTB RD through a Jtek ShiftMate at the moment: wondering if I could operate the SRAM NX with it on a humongous cassette with it --there is some slack in the system and it might just work, as the MicroShift does.

[@MidtownSkyport]

*_Premieres at _**_16:30_* Comes back at 16:35 Premieres in 47 hours :(

[@alexball5907]

I can't help thinking that to wrap so much chain maybe the next generation of derailleurs will have an extra articulation in the arm. As the cages get longer, everything just gets more exposed to rock or stick strikes. Sticks into rear derailleurs were always what got me when I was reaching mountain bikes regularly.

[@byronstumman7420]

Awesome. This series has made me way more un-afraid to things out of my own bike. Keep it up 👍 Oh, and do you think Laura would be too ashamed for an 80’s era guest special? ;)

[@samj1185]

cool. now tell me if a BS-M12-R 12 speed Microshift will work w/ a Shimano R8000 11 speed derailleur on a 12 speed 11-34 cassette! Thanks for having a good time doing what you're doing.

[@KandyRedCoi]

Watch guy too 👍 next time you in LA lets ride

[@milatroz]

I saw on gevenalles website that they're selling a new shifter for these Sram 12spd rear derailleurs.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Sure. But I have an 11spd cassette on the Crust.

[@jurrevijn2749]

MTB derailleurs don't have the barle adjuster because the shifters have them. This is so if you were to crash you won't break the adjuster.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Thanks. An explanation that make sense.

[@timothygettelfinger6836]

Eventually two chain rings will be the latest fad.

[@super-sim1665]

I would say the chain is too tight but the jockey wheel may hit the cassette if it's longer so stay with what works.

[@jeemon01]

Liked "losing their shit!" Bike hacks rule!

[@surlycyclingrag3347]

That was great to see. There is a lot more 1x10 just like less people are using four panniers. I still don't understand what is advantage.

[@dwcdad]

Keep up home style bike works, you’ll find many” not standard “ parts working together just fine. Have 420 Trek with 5 speed freewheel using 10 speed campy derailleur with downtime shifters(10) indexed, works great, road it last 4 year’s.

[@PatrickXG95]

It's fun watching you experiment with this stuff. Have you checked out the Wolftooth Tanpan though? The Tanpan is suppose to let you use Shimano road shifters with Shimano MTB derailleurs.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

No Shimano parts.

[@LeonDanger]

That's cool. Have you thought about putting the 11 speed barcon onto the brake lever shifter?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Yep.

[@peppermintp2610]

Dear Bike Professor Roca: Love the Cave of Bad Ideas and the intro to this series! I've been curious about how to expand my gear range/lower the gear inches on one of my Bike Fridays that I currently have a 1x7 (50t chain ring and a 13-30). As I consider the size of rear derailleur for a mega cassette and the limited ground clearance on a 20" wheel, I don't think this would be an optimal setup, right? I am probably better off going 2x in the front and adding a front derailleur.

[@hc7185]

MTB shifters have their barrel adjuster attached to the shifter and not the derailleur

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I know that. But why not the rear mech?

[@filipwalicki3304]

Because You can adjust it on the go? why on the rear mech relly? :)

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Why not have them both in the same place?

[@Tomcat6541]

On a mountain bike, the barrel adjuster would seize in the grime at the rear derailleur. On road brifters, there's really not a good place for a barrel adjuster. Some road bikes have in-line barrel adjusters between handlebar and frame. That's how I've set my gravel bike up with an older Shimano SLX 9 speed mountain derailleur.

[@pedalmike]

I just did a flat bar conversion on a tandem for friends. The Tiagra trigger road shifters have adjusters as well as the Ultegra rear derailleur. My 9 speed Deore XT rear derailleur also has a barrel adjuster on it. 20+ years in service and it still works great.

[@derektiller]

Hate that I love this. Really need 2 get my #life 2gether. Merry Xmas u freekz.

[@Max-xl3ml]

Something that might be interesting to try is the new 11-50 9 speed drivetrains from box components. I can't seem to find the pull ratios but perhaps it would work with an older shimano 9 speed brifter?

[@Max-xl3ml]

@RollinRat lol cadence is always a compromise with range. But i find I only care about cadence on the road so as long as my first 3 or 4 gears are pretty close I don't mind. If i remember correctly the box stuff has a pretty standard 11-13-15 set of cogs at the start. I'm running an 11-36 1x 7 speed and it works pretty flawlessly.

[@RichardKendrick]

Apparently, Box is not compatible with Shimano 9-speed. bikepacking.com/gear/box-prime-9-review/

[@Max-xl3ml]

@RollinRat My whole setup cost me probably 200 bucks for everything and works for the all the dj/street stuff I do and for trail riding. The box components stuff is also really cheap and will fit any hub back to the 1990s. But the fact is that all drivetrains have compromise, if cadence is not one you're willing to make then yeah a front derailleur with a tight ratio cassette is best for you. Is chain slap the end of the world for most single track? No but for hucking it in the city peace of mind and simplicity are great (for me). I've definitely dropped a chain in downtown traffic before and its a bad day.

[@Max-xl3ml]

@@RichardKendrick RIP I wish companies would stop fussing with cable pull but you can still use a friction shifter. I'm planning on putting their 1x8 on a new bike for the gf this season, major upgrade to her 3 speed internal hub. I just think a return to "older" drivetrain speeds is a really appealing idea for their strength and simplicity.

[@Max-xl3ml]

@RollinRat I live in CO at the base of the rockies so yeah there are some hills. I also like to do big days on the weekend linking up as many trails as i can between A and B. 11-36 with a 36 ring certainly means I know how to spin and mash, and while I'm definitely fixed gear ss curious I can only afford to own 1 bike right now. Being able to hit the local trails, and hold a steady 15-20 mph or faster on the road and in traffic is a real tall order for ss. I'm in the same boat almost with keeping old stuff, I started riding as an adult on a 1994 rigid mtb. I still have that frameset and all its parts but the drivetrain I experimented with on that (used sram 1x7 dh derailleur + cut down 10spd cassette) I transplanted onto a used ritchey p26 frame. That's the last 26er Ritchey made (oddly enough there was no competition on that ebay bid), which being what it is meant I didn't need new tires drivetrain, bb or cranks. I could get a fork and wheels all used for super cheap. In the end the soul of that bright purple 90s rig is still there just with disc brakes, and slightly more stable geo. I think we can both agree that this industry has become increasingly wasteful encouraging people to buy the latest and greatest every season. I'm a broke college kid in a pricey town and I see all kinds of car-rack queen bicycles (carbon xc bikes, brand new enduro rigs etc.) on the backs of expensive cars. These are bikes that you know get maybe a few hundred miles a summer. Then you see these unfair comparisons on popular cycling channels or publications acting as if what was once a standard is now unusable.

[@CAPRAQUEENRC]

In your honest opinion what do you think is a overall better frame set? The crust frame set you now outfitted or the Norco XR steel frame set with carbon fork? And do you know what materials the crust is made with? ❤️

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I like the Crust best. Crust is steel. 8-5-8 butting in the triangle.

[@frakafrocka]

RUSS RULES

[@gaylegrey917]

Great content! Kinda new to your channel but i'm watching all your videos now. :) More content soon pls. I was just wondering if you've ever tried the microshift advent x with the shimano tiagra 4600 STIs. Will that combo work? Thinking of converting my roadie to a budget mullet.

[@robertbonner5973]

Very interesting and entertaining vlog. Also, it was really cool that the bar end shifter work on the index mode , but did the Gevenalle shifter work in the index mode ?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

No. The gev is 10spd.

[@Jinedan]

Love these videos- keep them coming. As an aside - your back wheel seems to decelerate very quickly ... brake or hub drag?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Brake.

[@queensalnd]

New subscriber, love your vids👍😊

[@klunker289]

Yay- 8:30

[@aleksleonardson6058]

The best part is Russ trashing commenters

[@dan10663]

Which barrel adjuster did you use ?

[@hilltopper600]

what is the bike stand, I like it!

[@broadfjord7087]

These segments are awesome Russ! What barrel adjuster did you use? Does it fit well or is it sloppy? Thanks! I’m currently using a tanpan set up and it works great but i don’t know if the xt sgs derailleur will like the 11-50(it’s only four more teeth and i have a roadlink also) what could go wrong🙃?

[@chrisguilfoyle8799]

A Shimano version should work with the grx 812 to a 46t but I'm not sure about 50t

[@MAGAIVER]

GRX 1x rear mech looks like a rebranded XT 8000 to me with the cable pull altered of course. And the XT works flawlessly with a sunrace 11-50 so the GRX should work too. I just wish Shimano skipped the 11 speed stuff and went straight into 12 speed with a 10-51 cassete. All they really needed to do is a drop bar shifter compatible with the existing 12 speed mountain bike stuff, XTR 9100, XT 8100 and SLX 7100 that would've been perfect. Drop bar SLX 7100 would be the perfect alternative to the Eagle AXS stuff.

[@mnihon]

Thanks to this “bad” or, rather, bad-ass idea, I’m inspired to upgrade my 1x11 drop bar bike to a budget mullet too. But first, I’m curious about the ergonomics of the Gevenalle “brifter” vs. bar-end shifter. Do you have a preference for one or the other on the road or trail? I’d think bar-end shifters would be best for rough terrain as one would likely be in the hooks anyway and the shifter would be closer to your hands than any other configuration, including trigger sifters mounted to the bar tops.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I prefer the Gevenalle. Im mostly on the tops tho.

[@ricktan5663]

What's the rationale for not having a front derailleur? More room in the front triangle for frame bags?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Couldn’t afford a double.

[@torbenfuessle3204]

Rick Tan I didn’t think the bombora could run a double crank set

[@cfoxley1]

This was rad, Russ! Great experiments!! What do you think about the Astral Outback wheels, by the way? Are those the alloy ones or carbon fiber?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Alloy. So far so good. Limited riding with the snow and ice.

[@velodjk2975]

It looks like to avoid a small chain ring and derailleur up front, a Frankenstein monster the size of small dinner plates must be built in the back.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

👏

[@stockton350]

What kind of rear fender is that? Thinking of putting one on my winter beater?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

It’s in our Best of 2019 accessories video.

[@rneillmojo]

Ok wierd Russ. But I stumbled into an index Barend conversion on my 1x11. Please take it outside to put the shifting under load - you get the happy holiday award today - I will give you a two fer to run it around the block - you are a caveman Russ

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

You missed the comment where I said I took it outside and it worked great.

[@rneillmojo]

@@PathLessPedaledTV got it. - I might have to do this for my Sram R2C and an Eagle NX. You are great.

[@larzdiaz]

What fenders are those?

[@jfspurlin1]

What chain are you using? 12-speed?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

11

[@amadeusb4]

Premieres, literally the worst feature of youtube! Gaaah.

[@ryantaylor8208]

Perhaps already mentioned, but Microshift now makes a 12 speed (SRAM and Shimano) 12 speed bar end shifter: www.microshift.com/en/product/bs-sr-m12/ I get the fun of the video is to see what parts can be mixed/matched, but if someone is going to actually try and put together a mullet setup on the cheap via buying parts, getting a 12 speed bar end shifter is probably the safer bet over an 11 speed when the price difference is negligible. Anyway, keep up the good work Russ and HELLO from Long Beach.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Depends on your drivetrain. I was working with what I had which is 11spd and unwilling to go to XD freehub because THAT would cost another $100. So yes, if you've got 12, it goes without saying get that. If you've got 11, like I do, this works.

[@ryantaylor8208]

Wait, so this was a 12 speed NX MTB derailleur on an 11 speed cassette and an 11 speed micro shift bar end shifter? I guess I assumed you had a Sunrace 12 speed cassette that mates to a non-XD hub. Either way, just wanted to ensure others knew the 12 speed Microshift bar end shifter existed as I think it’s a relatively new part to their lineup.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

@@ryantaylor8208 Yes. Thats why its the Cave of Bad Ideas, not the Cave of Perfectly Matching Parts :)

[@mgeezy1641]

Will this work with a shimano deore 11-51 speed 11 speed drivetrain?

[@frakafrocka]

Anyone know if there is a legit reason for road/mtn diff cable pull ratios? Or just to make you buy within the categories?

[@ricktan5663]

Only thing I can think of is less volume/lever range on the mtn shifters as opposed to the road brifters.Personally, I think that Shimano should just allow road brifters and any kind of front/rear derailleurs if they are Di2.

[@HollyBoni]

When Shimano introduced the Dyna Sys pull ratio on 10spd mountain stuff, they said it was because it works better in an "MTB environment" when the cables are grimy etc. (Until Dyna Sys, Shimano tried to keep the same pull ratio, but that meant they had to decrease the cable pull each time an extra speed was added to the back. This became problematic on 10spd) But internally routed 10spd brifters that used the old cable pull worked like shit all the time, so Shimano moved to a longer cable pull on 11spd road stuff anyways... So on the Shimano side both MTB and road stuff moved to longer cable pull, just a slightly different cable pull... On the SRAM side both 10spd MTB and road stuff used the same cable pull and pull ratio, and both worked great, but they changed the MTB stuff on 11spd. I think both manufacturers did it to keep you from mixing stuff. But then the whole gravel and drop bar MTB thing came along. If you look at SRAM 1x11 road and MTB stuff they're pretty much the same, just with different cable pull and pull ratios, and for example a 10spd GRX rear derailleur is exactly the same as an older 10spd MTB rear derailleur... It makes no sense at all.

[@chrispalmer1773]

Sooo its shimano 11 speed mtn cable pull with sram 12 speed derailleur?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Yes

[@chrispalmer1773]

@@PathLessPedaledTV so in theory a set of shimano 11 speed brifters and a tanpan from wolf tooth should work with the eagle derailleur, did you try the apex 1 with eagle derailleur?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

chris palmer apex 1 is the same cable pull as Rival. In my test it didn’t work.

[@chrispalmer1773]

Well dang!!!

[@chrispalmer1773]

Well it seems the only to get sram 11 speed brifters to work with a eagle derailleur would be a jtek shiftmate 9 which also has a cable tensioner...I'm sure somebody Mention it. But love the nerd videos

[@richardpolidore1702]

Makes feel better about not going 1x

[@zaf1998rcool]

Now can you you try my earlier suggestion: use this derailleur with a sram 11s brifter! It totally works!

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I tried that combo and it didn’t work for me.

[@HollyBoni]

​@RollinRat stahp it

[@HollyBoni]

@RollinRat Same here, I love writing youtube comments on my typewriter and then mailing them to youtube. 😁 I was half joking, although I hate old bike stuff and tech with passion. 💩🤮 I used to work as a mechanic in a store where we mainly specialized in vintage bikes. Never again! 😁 (But really, I hope i'll never work as a bike mechanic again anywhere else either)

[@HollyBoni]

​@RollinRat "They dont make things like they used to, especially in Asia!!" That's simply racist! 😁 As I said i'm quite familiar with old bikes and old components (and the "everything was better in the good old days" mentality) so I don't need someone else's word. Personally I hate it all, and I hated it even more when I had to work on those damn things every day. I'm very happy with new bike tech and i'll never ever recommend vintage and/or outdated components to people who actually want to use their bikes. In my experience modern stuff works brilliantly, and can actually make biking more enjoyable for most people compared to old stuff which a lot of the time is pretty much working against you. So let's just agree to disagree. 😉

[@HollyBoni]

​@RollinRat The racist thing was just a joke, I guess you didn't notice the emoji? I don't see how a 40 year old hub is "better" than anything (strong word) new. Why? Modern hubs are so simple, they're cleverly designed so you can switch them from thru axle to QR sometimes even without tools, they're usually better sealed, and you can replace the entire bearing (not just the cones and the ball bearings like in the case of most, but not all old hubs) and they will run like new again. Why wouldn't they be able to run for years and years? You can keep repeating that you "built things that fly in space" etc, but no offense, I think you're simply stuck in the past and afraid to try new things. My boss was exactly like that, i've heard him say so many times how hydraulic brakes suck because "you have to bleed them all the time". Funny thing is, I don't think he ever owned a bike with hydros. (Also, don't forget that old tech was new once... I'm sure plenty of people protested decades ago against the tech that you love. That's just how the world works.) I'm younger, but I think that i've played with and worked on more older stuff than most bikers from the older generations. I know that there are some vintage parts that are beautifully made. But the modern stuff that's not as beautifully made still does the job, and does it much better. For example you say brifters are complicated and prone to failure. I say that the SRAM levers on my bike haven't missed a beat since I got them. I've ridden them everywhere including mountain bike trails, I fell and they took most of the hit, zero problems. I replace the cable and housing every year just so I sleep better at night, but other than that I don't even need to touch the barrel adjuster. Yes, brifters can fail, and friction shifters are more reliable. But do I want to trade the convenience of an indexed shifter right under my fingers? Hell no! I've ridden plenty of single speed bikes. They can be fun for a city run around or something, and I know people use them for more who enjoy torturing themselves. I like to ride everywhere, in one ride i'll mix pavement, dirt roads, singletrack, i'll ride up and down mountains. I utilize the entire gear range on my bike. I might climb singletrack for an hour in my lowest gear, then ride a fast paved section in the higher gears. A single speed bike would make things simply miserable. The world has moved on. Just because something is more complicated, that doesn't mean it will fail immediately. Modern components, even in the cheaper segment work great, and there have been plenty of innovations that make biking more fun and more user friendly. I just helped out my friend's girlfriend. She has an old road bike, we replaced her 2x7 downtube shifter groupset with a modern groupset with brifters, a wider gear range etc. She got much faster and wider tires. We threw the stupid old handlebars in the trash and got her some compact bars. She likes riding her bike sooo much more, and she doesn't know anything about the "tech side" of biking. I can't really say anything more, peace! ✌️

[@MrRedPony01]

If you're doing bar end shifters, skip all the madness and get a 12 speed NX MTB group set and mount the flat bar shifter up high. Lol

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

If you’re into that.

[@MrRedPony01]

@@PathLessPedaledTV I'm not into drop bars as it is. Lol. So it's a bit easier for me to have a wide range 1x on my gravel bike. Regardless, you're getting it figured out in a way I would probably do also.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Go Outside Thursday’s video is pretty rad.

[@mawo3961]

Thanks Russ! I will do same on my Rivendell Atlantis. Will use the Paulcomp shifter adapter with shim for my 26.0 diameter road bars. www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/drivetrain/shifting/sram-shifter-adaptor/

[@BluesDawgBikes]

While it is interesting to see that the Microshift SRAM MTB 11 speed bar end shifter works well with the Eagle 12 speed RD, I' haven't seen you mention that Microshift also makes a bar end shifter specifically for the SRAM Eagle 12 speed. www.microshift.com/en/product/bs-m12-r/

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I don’t have a 12 speed drivetrain so not on my radar. Don't know if you missed it but I was shifting up an 11spd cassette. 12 speed microshift would have done me no good.

[@BluesDawgBikes]

@@PathLessPedaledTV Ah! My bad. I think I had realized that earlier, but had forgotten at the time of my comment. So, nevermind. But FWIMC, if anyone is looking for a drop bar shifting solution for an Eagle 12 speed, Microshift does have a bar end for that.

[@SuperKettMan]

All this to avoid front changers. Sheesh.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I’d prefer a 2x this frame just doesn’t accommodate it. Working with what I have 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@sheilastallard]

Russ....nothing to do with the video, but what gives with the mermaid comment on the chain stay? and my husband want's to know are you a wristwatch fan ?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Have no idea about the mermaids. Yes, I have a modest watch collection :)

[@aaronlael239]

You should get a JTEK shiftmate 9 and test the rival shifter with the NX rear derailleur. www.jtekengineering.com/shiftmate/shiftmate-compatibility-charts-choices/

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Currently no US dealer of the shift mate.

[@aaronlael239]

@@PathLessPedaledTV well that's a bummer! Thanks for all you do.

[@hdwoernd]

Check out this wonderful overview: bike.bikegremlin.com/1278/bicycle-rear-derailleur-compatibility/

[@claytonmarkin7863]

I think you found your niche, keep roasting stupid bike repair idea etc.