Can the Brompton P Line Climb? Steep Hill in the Rain Challenge [Hong Kong][Folding Bike]

[@BestSideCycling]

What do you think of the climb? Were the p line gearing enough for you? Where should I climb up in Hong Kong next? Do you think my Garmin's gradient numbers were correct? (I'm skeptical, haha!)

[@jeremyglenn3130]

24% I know your a beast on the steep stuff so I'm not skeptical

[@714SNF]

@@twhis9843 lighter weight

[@housanebolttron8890]

The audio quality is always really good on your videos. Nice work

[@BestSideCycling]

Thanks so much for watching and following

[@DoctorPiri]

Hi, what is your verdict on C Vs P line gearing and climbing, please make suggestion to someone who's thinking of swaping C 6gear for P 4gear line, I love the new colour scheme for the P line hence the reason for consideration and I still think it will do the same work in riding P line, I'll appreciate your candid verdict

[@cyclingxventures]

nice one, man! :) i'm grinding at the slightest incline!

[@alexchoo6801]

If you are to go for another hill climb, will you choose the C line or the P line?

[@kelvinlau5168]

Which Brompton did you have back home? Did you miss the extra 3 gears and if you were to buy again, which model would you go for?

[@BestSideCycling]

I have a M6R. Certainly miss the 2 gears but definitely don't regret the purchase at all

[@Steelpeachandtozer]

Do you think a P-line electric might have been a better choice?

[@bidibee808]

Now that you have owned or climbed both bar types, what differences have you noticed between the low (S) and mid (M) bar for climbing? Wondering if the mid bar would help or hinder an averaged sized (5'9") person when standing and mashing.

[@BestSideCycling]

For me as a 5'5 person it definitely seems to help. Having better leverage over the bars to pull up on in my opinion.

[@bidibee808]

@@BestSideCycling Thank you for taking the time ro respond. This video helped steer me towards the low bar.

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

As a Dane we have no points higher than 200 meters, but we do have a rocky island in the Baltic, which at least have two serpentine roads which goes steeply up, or down according to the direction! I normally find my 6 speed Brompton having too low gears, but going up the one of those, with added cattle prevention bars at intervals, which needed walking over, or round, with a self closing gate, even the low gears wasn't enough, so I had to walk!!!! The ordinary Brompton system for gears have a pre-selector and a 3 speed internal gear, which needs different kinds of changing. The three speed may be changed at any time, also when stopped, but the two chain gears need to move to be changed.

[@harrypressman2]

Awesome job and very impressive considering the weather. All I need for my Brompton is a supplier that I can purchase a 20 year reduction to my age.

[@SpeedyBlueBiker1]

That was just crazy! Well done on a bike with not much selection in gears although really you just need the lowest one it has for that climb.

[@BestSideCycling]

🤣 I tried a real mountain today and got destroyed. How is riding in Thailand

[@SpeedyBlueBiker1]

@@BestSideCycling Mostly flat around Bangkok. There are some very good climbs up north in the mountains most notably Doi Suthep and Doi Inthanon. There is a 23.5 kilometer cycling track around the airport in Bangkok which is very nice. Free to use and a lot of cycling shops and places to eat located right there as well. I usually ride in the mornings (7:00am) when the temperatures are between 20 and 23C.

[@fender1000100]

Dont know why Brompton cant develop a 9--21 system for a 4 speed 9 13 17 21 That would give a decent range that could take most hills and give a decent speed on the flat with a 45 tooth ring. 36--83 gear inches.

[@bazzaroberts8748]

Converted my A line Brompton with P line rear triangle and front fork. Using 21t on rear and 46t chainring. Better than stock gears. My excuse is that I am 61 so need help on the hills 😎

[@TateJenson]

I'm also 61 and looking to buy a Brompton. Can you please tell me more about your bike? I'm new to Bromptons so what is a rear triangle? And how did you convert the front fork? Thanks!

[@jeremyglenn3130]

4 speed got it. But I'm curious what are the cogs on the cassette and front chainring? Way to smash that hill

[@goldensack_fieldadventuref4538]

50T chainring, Sprockets:11-13-15-18 Tooth

[@jeremyglenn3130]

@@goldensack_fieldadventuref4538 Awsome. Thanks for the info 👍🏻

[@BestSideCycling]

Guess it has been answered! Future video coming but I might switch to 44T to tackle some larger hills more comfortably

[@phungmoe2302]

Bad news, P Line (aka problem line). That is why Brompton says.... for the City.

[@BestSideCycling]

Haha yeah it's definitely a more niche bike. Still having lots of fun with it though

[@noonster55]

For people like me, 200 pounds. I need the extra gearing. I am just waiting for Brompton to get it right and add a 6 or 7 speed to the P or T line... Why did they go with a 4 speed?

[@fender1000100]

This is the EXACT reason why I never bought a Brompton. But the amazing Tern verge X11 instead. Brompton think the world is like Holland. Where I live there are many hills with a 15% plus gradient. You will KILL yourself to get up them on a 4 speed Brompton. Even if it's light. And as you said. If you're a bigger build (I'm 5 11" 92kg.) It's essential to have superior gearing to take on steep hills.

[@vonettadevo]

@@fender1000100Where do you live? I’m in NYC and am comparing the 4 speed to the 12.

[@curl1ngs]

Enjoyed the p line, also the upgrades video. Tried to source your "Ti Parts" quick release pedals for Brompton by googling - but nothing showed up. Please let us know if they are still available.

[@BestSideCycling]

www.fantastic4toys.com/products/ti-parts-workshop-titanium-double-x-qd-pedal-for-brompton-bicycle is one example of them

[@palmcrazysg]

Wouldn't a 6 speed be easier than a 4 speed to climb such slopes and hills?

[@BestSideCycling]

Definitely at time of releasing this video... the P Line didn't come out with the 12 speed yet either. I chose the 4 speed anyway because I had to lift the bike a lot while in Hong Kong to take the MTR so decided the weight savings was worth the lack of gears!

[@karenc354]

@@BestSideCyclingwould 12 speed be better to climb upward slopes ?

[@wanderingsofalanandcaz]

Where you just running the standard cogs on back and 50t front ring?

[@BestSideCycling]

Yeap, for this video it was all completely stock!

[@wanderingsofalanandcaz]

@@BestSideCycling Excellent thanks. Would you say that on the standard that 5-8% gradients are fairly doable?

[@allanohlsen7729]

Impressive!

[@BestSideCycling]

Hahaha I have missed climbing! Thank you

[@714SNF]

Will you get a T-Line in the future? :)

[@BestSideCycling]

I'm not going to lie, it's very tempting sometimes. If I was anywhere more transit oriented, I'd 100% be considering it :)

[@UncleAT]

Wow. Did u ditch your C line after getting a P? 😅

[@BestSideCycling]

Nah. C line is still in US! P line will stay here in HK.

[@i-vernsimphonique3012]

Hmmmm....That's a very good way to burn fats and calories....

[@winglau9476]

Lol 😂Insanely tiring 3:37

[@20Kilogram]

Beast

[@andrewchin9007]

crushed

[@BestSideCycling]

Haha thanks but going to get crushed in the next vid

[@fender1000100]

This looked painful. And you look like you dont even weigh 75kg. Imagine someone weighing 90kg trying to do what you did. Just get a Tern verge X11 already. They float up hills..

[@tonytigerking]

The math doesn’t seem to add up if this hill is really 14% gradient…

[@BestSideCycling]

Yeah agreed though that first half is super flat....

[@tonytigerking]

Regardless, it is amazing that you actually managed to climb that hill under that weather condition with less than ideal gear ratio available on that bike…

[@BlackyBrownDestruction9337]

Bootleg China brompton has 9 gears