Can The Finals Recover After Season 3?

[@olivanthememer]

I joined The Finals this season and I find it to be absolutely amazing, I don't understand why so many people are complaining about it

[@Bay-Lee08]

Im confused too🥶 Only thing ima bit sad about was the delay on Xbox But now we get to recieve the skill issue set and im overjoyed😊

[@-j-j-c]

ta ranked is why lots of people dont like s3

[@Cr9mson]

@@olivanthememer well that’s amazing youre enjoying it! Its always nice to see people enjoying the game even in later stages People arent used to the sudden changes sometimes

[@CinemaZiggy]

Well you don’t have anything to compare with your current experience. As someone who has played since the open beta this game is turning into something that I’m sure many didn’t expect. It’s still a great game but many things that have been added are worse than they were.

[@humanstew8866]

​​@@CinemaZiggy Yeah this. Still a fantastic game but devs need to make sure they keep their priorities straight. Here's hoping that Nexon minds their damn business and lets them cook.

[@xevilmx]

I grinded my ass off during season 1 and 2 to Daimond peaking at top 500. I'm skipping season 3 mainly cuz I dislike TA and prefer cashout. I'll come back next season if they revert ranked back.

[@Cr9mson]

Fair enough, but you could always get into world tour they added in the emerald rank for top players to achieve

[@spike5182]

Are you a fellow Ehrling enjoyer? I do believe The Finals can recover, it just won't reach its full potential/become popular. Season 3 was Embark's last chance to utilize The Finals' potential, but instead, they've wasted it. I do, however, believe that Season 4 will steady the player base and prolong the inevitable shutdown of this game. Now, to prevent that, Embark needs to make sweeping changes (Balance, New Content, Progression. Events, and General Improvements) come the Midseason update to the end of the season. Only then, can this game make a comeback and reach its full potential. The door is unlocked, the question is, will Embark open the door.

[@YoureMadBozo71]

They opened the door, locked it, and walked back outside with the TA change 😂😂

[@YoureMadBozo71]

Either way it goes, imma be here til the end of the games life cycle. Only fps I actually enjoy playing

[@MinimizeNature]

Started playing at the beginning of season 3 and I’ve been having a great time

[@mayo4117]

Average light main response

[@MinimizeNature]

@@mayo4117 I play medium and heavy

[@-j-j-c]

@@mayo4117wtf does this mean 😭😭

[@hugegamer8004]

@@mayo4117 Could you elaborate? I play all 3 classes, medium the least and heavy the most and so far I've loved each season. Definitely been getting more into light since season 3, but that's because it was under powered in previous seasons but it has generally felt more capable this season.

[@Cr9mson]

Thats amazing! At the end of the day The Finals is supposed to be a fun game so even if you aren’t competitive enjoying it is all that matters

[@zenobryant5192]

I kinda just want to play the beta again, everything overpowered and only pure chaos.

[@Cr9mson]

@@zenobryant5192 i never got to play the beta because i was trapped in the cod cycle I should have looked past my game performance at the time

[@CinemaZiggy]

The beta really felt like one of the best versions of the game.

[@Zark_Moneybags69]

embark has no idea what they are doing. no need to nerf everything

[@ImNotFine44]

The game feels alot better now than it did in both betas. I really think they got the balancing right now. Only need a few things fixed like the medium swords unbearable to play with (they can be good but even whilst destroying the whole lobby, you dont feel like it until you look at the scoreboard)

[@hexadecimal973]

Bring back the beta model1887

[@miguellopes466]

Recover from what?

[@okiedoke8438]

It's hard to play a game that has the players count dropping, It has a Battle Pass and a Circuit reward system that I personally like since it give me something to grind out and get rewards. A bunch of ppl came over from Apex and Warzone and made it impossible to play without sweating this suck 100% of the fun out the game. I hope they can attract a bigger audience next season.

[@markmartinez1275]

The beginning of season 3 felt too competitive on normals. This made me not enjoy the game as much anymore. My question is, is it worth coming back?

[@wasntwas]

If you enjoyed the previous season, yeah, it is. There are definitely differences, and some gamemodes are worse off than others, but i would reccomend seeing for yourself. Try world tour, but dont try powershift, it is sadly infested snipers and lights in general, something about lights on powershift is just so annoying. Other gamemodes, for the most part, feel fine.

[@hugegamer8004]

I really loved ranked in previous seasons, but I just switched to world tour this season. I care about gameplay, not cosmetics or ranks. I don't understand the mindset of people who don't see previous ranked and world tour as the same thing.

[@humanstew8866]

I want a limited time mode that's kinda like world tour, call it "Ante Up" where your earnings are still tracked over the duration but you gotta bet a percentage of your accumulated cash to go into the cashouts. That way, the teams that win more consistently Instead of just playing more can get in the lead.

[@hugegamer8004]

@@humanstew8866 That does sound like a good idea. Obviously due to my aforementioned lack of care for my progression, such a gamemode wouldn't incentivise me to play it over world tour, but that would certainly be good for any players concerned with ranking systems.

[@CreeperPlaysGames373]

Exactly

[@Cr9mson]

Ngl i dont know how i missed my overwhelming negative got cut out that’s embarrassing

[@No20six]

I haven't had this much fun playing a competitive fps in years. Only just started about 2 months a go, but it's been amazing so far imo.

[@Cr9mson]

I think its so fun because they actually are wanting to build an experience not a money maker

[@ImpracticalOstrich]

This is a small dip the finals has alot of active players so ofc it will recover

[@Cr9mson]

Well I know a lot of dedicated players, especially bigger content creators have been moving away from the game because of season 3, so hopefully season 4 will bring them back!

[@alexanderkempf9828]

For me it’s just weapon balance and gameplay variety, and the fact that ranked was only in terminal attack this season was a huge L. KS23 and 93R feel awful/underpowered/too situational. Spear and Katanas are just trash. So we went 2 seasons and only have 2 new decent weapons (FAMAS which just got buffed, and Bow which is really skill based)? How is that even real? Every Heavy weapon is now very weak or situational, whereas almost all offerings to Light are either viable or actually busted. Everything feels off.

[@iDrKx]

Idk about 93R but by playing ks in the last week daily I don't think it can actually be buffed, already hook into shot meele does like 145 any point of damage more will break this threshold and make it broken and just a Roadhog hook; they even nerfed chain for this; (might even break 1 shot breakpoints vs medium with shot hook shot melee) I wouldn't mind if it had breach on 2 shots or some other balance that wasn't tied to actual damage numbers;

[@ImNotFine44]

The ks23 is really yuck to play with just due to its inaccuracy and bullets being projectile and slow. I love how good feels when you pull off crazy shots with it though. Ill stick with the grenade launcher though

[@wasntwas]

Lights need to be tones down, and heavies need their range back. Medium though, feels amazing, dont touch medium, please i beg of them, mabey modify defibrillator or somthing, like, mabey a bit of a longer charge up, but thats all, i beg. Domt try to fix riot shield either, that should *always* be a gimmick.

[@Cr9mson]

Surprisingly ive seen a lot of people be really effective with the KS23 so maybe try giving it another chance kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXqzoKpsmKdlrassi=PqSLfEJ35IYWfQX7 And I did make a video on the 93R so feel free to leave your opinions on there as well

[@TheRealLofty]

Had a terminal ranked match where everyone left first round. I had to 5v1 for 7 rounds. Didnt wanna leave because of suspension. Plus ive been suspended for THEIR sever failing?? Like what?? 😢

[@forty27]

It really sucks when it happens. Makes me prioritise playing quickplay power shift and other modes where leavers can be replaced

[@TheRealLofty]

Facts​@@forty27

[@wasntwas]

I play powershift if i dont wanna play ranked/world tour, and then i go back to world tour because holy sh^t is powershift infested with snipers, and throwing knives lmao. Its such a good gamemode, but holy crap are the lights annoying as hell in that gamemode lol.

[@JuiceManJ91]

Been playing since beta and I thinks it only gotten better. I love it. Only multiplayer game i play

[@Cr9mson]

I wish I had played during the BETA / ALPHA (I had the ALPHA but didnt play) but I’m glad im here now and no longer brainwashed by COD… but bo6 is looking really nice ngl

[@davidwilkinson4634]

I believe it can recover, plus there is still 10k players playing on average so it's definitely not dead on top of that i can't wait to grind the new world tour

[@trevorjensen4557]

That's just steam alot more on console

[@wasntwas]

​@trevorjensen4557 and to add to that, i hear about a lot of people saying they're playing on off, or waiting for TA to leave ranked, so the game will 100% recover, that 10k is probobly very off from the acual amount of different people playing for more than a day.

[@какегоэтот]

game is fine, extremely good. i don't understand the entire fuss

[@ericc2939]

I enjoyed your video! But please work on finishing what you are saying. I notice sometimes you will be saying something and then it cuts to what you’re saying next. I’m not sure if it’s the editing. Makes it hard to watch and follow along. Thanks!

[@Cr9mson]

Some of it might have been an error in post but sometimes ill mess up what im saying and have to respeak it Or somehow I will mumble when speaking and so when I edit it in post I mistake it for silence Im working on getting a better mic so it can pick up my voice better But thank you for the honest feedback!

[@Cr9mson]

I actually just made a new video so hopefully this is an improvement to this one! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXqzoKpsmKdlrassi=PqSLfEJ35IYWfQX7

[@coomtheslayer]

As a new player, stop doomposting you sweats. "Waaah, cashout is too casual" "waaah, terminal attack is too normal"

[@Cr9mson]

Huh

[@coomtheslayer]

@@Cr9mson Nobody knows what they want and reddit has ruined so many communities

[@kngwzrd4208]

The finals gonna deliver trust

[@sparquisdesade]

Honestly.... I'd be willing to skip a whole season worth of new maps modes an weapons if they developed an released a robust custom map/mode editor an being able to search for customs and playing them

[@wasntwas]

Ehh, i think they should find a good season to that, if they do that, right now is a terrible time to do that though. I do kinda agree though, just, now is absolutely not the time.

[@Cr9mson]

Well I think a map editor would be really hard to make due to all of the dynamic item spawns and destruction thats involved and I believe they take all of the stress on their servers so they would need a lot more funding for it to work

[@jaym4697]

I don't know if it can survive. I really loved this game (1000 hours+) and even I got sick of this horrible melee/semi automatic meta

[@ImNotFine44]

Terminal attack needs to go. Its not going to be csgo or r6 cause its a completely different shooter. Its not built for it and its not their audience. They need to give it up and use those resources on something better

[@Cr9mson]

it will most likely be gone by season 4

[@TheGoldenShot]

I think power shift is the only fun mode in game now😅😂

[@wasntwas]

I wish it was, but it is plauges with glitch grenades and snipers. I can counter sniper, and i am not heavy enough to survive the snipers, the chaos was so fun in season 2, but now the payload moves an inch to one side and the game freezes lol.

[@TheGoldenShot]

@@wasntwas My own way to win power shift is put many mine on the platform😂 explosive mines are build to destroy light😂

[@TB_SnEaKy]

I'm having a blast!!

[@Poogio-m7c]

Add old recoil on Lewis

[@Cr9mson]

@@Poogio-m7c i agree

[@Homewrecker90]

Good video. I would just drop the script. Still a thumbs up though

[@Cr9mson]

@@Homewrecker90 I’ll consider it, “before you quit the finals” video I did like a partial script and partial freeball so i might try that next time Maybe if im presenting facts ill use a script but sharing my opinion ill just say whatever

[@boldisordorin9010]

​@@Cr9mson i like scripted more

[@ShootFirstNS]

@@Cr9mson yeah it's not the script it's how you read it. If you enjoy the game and know what you want to talk about you don't need a script, just some key points

[@Cr9mson]

@@ShootFirstNSim still experimenting but I think ill try to find key things I want to talk about and go from there ive been doing a script so i dont end up rambling the whole time so I dont repeat myself But im going to try and find a way to deliver my scripts better

[@tw1tch09]

Dang dude you’re pretty cracked

[@Cr9mson]

Thanks 😄 I was trying to secretly show off how good I am and im glad you noticed

[@mariusiurea]

if a rank system properly reflects your skill, and your skill isn't improving, you shouldn't be gaining rank. I don't know in what world we would be happy to see number go up, even though you are as shit at the game as you were before. Season 2 ranked was great, had close games, with people 1-2 ranks above or below you.

[@the_jjabberwock]

What are your specs?

[@Cr9mson]

3080, i9-11900k 32gb 3200 ram

[@crimmysonn]

My irl name is crimson (reason for me username) so its SO weird hearing someone else say "hey whats up, its crimson here" BUT W VIDEO BROTHER

[@user-ne9sd4ow1o]

I clicked on this vid thinking it was you 😅

[@Cr9mson]

@@crimmysonn well ironically one of my friends called me crimmyson all the time and i had saw one of your videos and thought it was funny we had the same name But thats actually based your irl name is Crimson

[@Cr9mson]

@@user-ne9sd4ow1o 🫣😆

[@crimmysonn]

@@Cr9mson oh no wayy! Thats actually crazy lmaoo my friend also called me crimmyson and that's how I got the username! But we should collab sometime and I'll show you my id to prove it ;)

[@JakeP-d5k]

Yes it can recover because it is a great game with a great community and believe it will succeed in the future. It will reach the finals

[@HricFlairDrip]

Its a really fun game and it is very open for new players. You might be reading too deep for casuals that wouldnt know the difference. Videos like this kept me from playing until i tried it myself. Not a perfect game but way better than anything else on the market

[@rarelyaccepted]

Lights ruined the fun

[@wasntwas]

On powershift? Yes, on other modes? They just deal a lot of damage, but thats kinda what their class is currently being designed around. I think it shouldnt be designed around that, but still, thats the game.

[@samuelwoodward836]

i like this season personally

[@aizen4851]

I was enjoying it a lot I had no problem until they reduced the dome shield effect from 12s to only fking 5s which is pretty useless man I hate it.

[@Cr9mson]

Well i mean most of the time people are shooting at it so it really wont make a difference

[@KianFloppa]

Yes it is

[@ShootFirstNS]

Recover? I'm wondering if it'll even survive season 3 let alone recover. I've stopped spending money on the game, I don't think the servers will be live in 6 months time.

[@Cr9mson]

i wont be on this earth in 6 months if have to go back to COD (and its bad)

[@madvortex39]

I think it will just try to give them a little time my friend

[@DonkeyTeeth7]

Famas has the best ttk for medium and heavy’s compared to the other ars

[@IAmLogicL]

They needed to not change ranked from cashout thats what fucked it

[@wasntwas]

Yeah, but the past ranked gamemode is still in the game, they just moved it, the competitive playerbase shouldnt have collapsed like it did lol. Although i can see why TA is so hated, it somehow feels one-sided on both sides.

[@dunnone1489]

Kinda hope so. Maybe someone else will buy the title and make a better gamemode then Cashout. This game would have been amazing with better game modes and more weapons and no body class. Unfortunately this game just made me want to play BATTLEFIELD 1 again. Frankly all they needed was a hard point gamemode or a capture the flag mode. 4 teams of 3 is just stupid, 2 teams of 5-6 is better for FPS games.

[@forty27]

Started playing this season and don’t get why everyone is complaining. The game is fantastic! Each weapon is viable with the right circumstances and I had a ton of fun with the movement.

[@spike5182]

This is inherently not true. The CL-40 is absolute garbage (It hurts to say that because I love that weapon so much, but I just can't commit to it due to how bad it has been since the launch on the game.

[@forty27]

@@spike5182 I’ve had fun games playing with CL-40 in the Power Shift pretty much dominating the lobby. Maybe it’s not great in competitive cashout or terminal attack, but that’s why I said “with the right circumstances”

[@spike5182]

@@forty27 You see, that's the problem, it's not good in any other mode besides power shift. All weapons should be viable in all modes, if not, you're doing something wrong. However, it's great to see someone having fun with the weapon

[@forty27]

@@spike5182 By saying "all weapons should be viable in all modes," you're essentially asking developers to severely limit the variety of both weapons and modes. Otherwise, it’d be getting close to impossible. Plus, balancing every weapon for every mode would reduce the complexity and fun of discovering the best use cases for each weapon. I think a more frequent meta rotation (every 2-4 weeks) would be a good solution. That way everyone would be able to enjoy their favourite weapons in all game modes for a limited time every now and then instead of never.

[@spike5182]

@@forty27 When you don't allow all weapons to be useful in all modes, you severely limit the replayability of the said game. It also creates a situation where every game feels the same. I agree with constant meta-shifts, however, it's also important, if not better, to hone in on the viability gap between weapons. All weapons should feel good to use which is not the case currently. Also, it is not impossible to do so, albeit, challenging. Many games have done so in the past and currently.

[@daqwanparrott3638]

New weapons trash New gadget trash New rank system suicide level New specialization very annoying to go against and someone overpowered. New map pretty good, but when I’m not getting frame drops Cosmetics fire like always No LTM game modes No lore trash This game has so much potential, but the dead team is so stupid at times. And they just need a professional bounce team. Overall season three worst season ever If they don’t cook up anything during the season or in season four, this game is done.☠️💀☠️💀☠️😭

[@jordankelly4684]

for some reason you brain dead mother fuckers keep saying the game is dead, but it keeps going.

[@spike5182]

Oh, there's lore, but it's trash and irrelevant. They need to scrap the current story and reset it. Embark is so dumb at times they're wasting this game's potential.

[@madvortex39]

​@@spike5182okay my dude. The Laura is trying to start out at least let it try to be something? And I mean why is it trashing irrelevant? Why do they have to reset it now like damn?

[@madvortex39]

The new weapons could be work but they're not bad. The gadgets are not the worst either, especially the thermal Borg thing for light. Okay, the rank system was not the best idea but it's not a complete suicidal. There are people who still quite enjoy it. And people also like world tournament that doesn't make it feel like they have the grind hard I would wish they gave it back but they have to work on the game as they've stated. And I don't think the devs are that dumb. Look there's still a lot of days left. They will probably dump more things as time goes on

[@spike5182]

@@madvortex39 I don't like it. It's moving too fast and they're not building the world or characters well. By resetting it I mean starting over as a basic gameshow, building the world, and characters (Like scotty and june) properly, not by adding dolphins and other pointless decryptions/easter egg hunts. Right now, the story is all over the place.

[@gocrashbandoloot]

no. literally just got banned from the discord because someone called me out my name for providing constructive, he was being delusional & projecting what he thought about me & embark bans me LMAOOOO like wth I deleted this.trash game, got to plat 4 last season, its the same thing, this game now is worse than the beta, no new guns, in a fps? i get banned for literally asking for like more when you get kills to prevent the 3rd party issue, I said if you get money & could lose it without team wipe with it being impactful & making sense like say you go on a kill streak, you get more money, maybe it coulld be a different mode, but it would help in cashout imo, people leave all the time, sometimes you dont get great teamates... so you have to suffer because theres nothing to offer?

[@gepsal209]

No, bye.

[@Cr9mson]

Bro said im praying on its downfall

[@kingjamez242]

Recover lmfao. Its nothing but bots, and players that dont play the objective. Or one team dominating everything. Its like roolling dice but you crap out everytime

[@snaggyak]

nerf light

[@II-oh8eq]

such an ass game. ofc the new s3 players see no issue w the game

[@hugegamer8004]

The game is just in a highly subjective state. Most people either really like it or don't like it. So far I've really enjoyed all seasons, but season 3 has been my favourite with balance changes, cosmetics and maps. I must ask: why did you watch this video if you don't like the game? It's been out for the best part of a year now so I see no reason why people who didn't enjoy it would get this content, let alone watch/interact with it.

[@II-oh8eq]

@@hugegamer8004 watched it out of curiosity considering i enjoyed s1/2 b4 it became a shitshow. i used to watch the finals content and it still gets recommended 😱

[@hugegamer8004]

@@II-oh8eq I see. I really liked season 1, but I didn't even complete the season 2 battlepass, now I'm loving season 3. I'll certainly be interested to see where they take it from here.

[@ODSTY35]

SBMM

[@madvortex39]

Keep that away

[@user-ne9sd4ow1o]

I keep wanting to play The Finals, but then i go outside or go to bed early.. I wish they added content at the same rate they do with cosmetics. We get new skins every week, but only 1 map every 3 months? Some unique gamemodes or events would be nice

[@hugegamer8004]

To be fair, if they added new maps any more often, you'd hardly ever see your favourite map lol.