Can the new Protoss Buffs stop Clem? StarCraft 2 Finals

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@johnbanks1163
@johnbanks1163 2 ай бұрын
I remember watching a mother-ship getting abducted like 10 years ago and thinking "that seems op". it seemed like such an obvious change.
@markfrank3307
@markfrank3307 2 ай бұрын
this
@DaevorTheDevoted
@DaevorTheDevoted 2 ай бұрын
@@markfrank3307 💯 What about the battle cruiser? Should that also be unabductable? (I don't think that's a word, but you know what I mean)
@elegantmonkey6111
@elegantmonkey6111 2 ай бұрын
@@DaevorTheDevoted The battlecruiser is not a heroic unit, so no. That would be like making the Carrier not abductable.
@BoxCox
@BoxCox 2 ай бұрын
​​@@DaevorTheDevoted Of course, they should be abductable. Same with carriers that are bigger lore wise.
@MyNameIsXYlp
@MyNameIsXYlp 2 ай бұрын
i don´t think buffing protoss deathball makes for better games
@AlexCatable
@AlexCatable 2 ай бұрын
"The map is dark and full of terrans" made my day 😅
@CaptainCasco808
@CaptainCasco808 2 ай бұрын
“The age old caster question…have you liked and subscribed?” I lost it hahaha
@EGDekker
@EGDekker 2 ай бұрын
“We’re on Amygdala - making me feel things for sure” sheeeesh, bars homie
@Cellus5000
@Cellus5000 2 ай бұрын
I'm going to be honest, the changes look really good now. As someone who doesn't play protoss, I couldn't really understand how useful extra energy would be, but I didn't think about the fact that toss can't really scout terran
@w8stral
@w8stral 2 ай бұрын
But they never need to scout T. Their build order does not change since sky Toss cheese is not viable. They are stuck on stalker/warpgate
@WTF2BlueTiger
@WTF2BlueTiger 2 ай бұрын
@@w8stral if only stalkers didnt lose to every terran ground unit except ghosts... its alright tho, chronoboosts more broken than mules or something idk
@w8stral
@w8stral 2 ай бұрын
@@WTF2BlueTiger Good thing immortals were nerfed; toss were beating everyone midgame and winning all the tournaments....
@Broockle
@Broockle 2 ай бұрын
I only noticed one instance where a templar did 2 extra storms.
@Broockle
@Broockle 2 ай бұрын
@@WTF2BlueTiger I mean, how to balance stalkers. They're faster than the average bio speed. They got more range than marines, so you can out micro marines with Stalkers. They got shield which recharge and they got blink, also they warp in. It's a core unit which can get a lot done. Really they shouldn't nerf the Immortal, it's a unit that doesn't warp in, doesn't even shoot up. It's allowed to be strong.
@Fam0usFarm3r
@Fam0usFarm3r 2 ай бұрын
I love that shields, one of protoss's defining features, is basically a hinderance, seeing as the colo trading shields for health is a buff. The only time it really seems useful is early blink pushes.
@chloesmith4065
@chloesmith4065 2 ай бұрын
Thanks to EMP
@Daniel-rd6st
@Daniel-rd6st 2 ай бұрын
Well it is usefull vs. Zerg, but year, against Terran mid or lategame armies, you would pretty much always want to trade your shields for additional HP, even if you lose the ability to regen that way.
@theSpian1
@theSpian1 2 ай бұрын
Maybe it's time for Protoss to get a mobile shield regen unit. Or shield batteries that can be warped from where they are in the base to the battlefield and be powered using warp prisms.
@Daniel-rd6st
@Daniel-rd6st 2 ай бұрын
@@theSpian1 A mobile shield reg unit is actually an intresting idea, but you would have to be very carefull not to make it OP. Maybe it could give a buff to shield regen in a certain area, when out of combat and work similar to the oracle beam attack, in the sense, that you need to invest energy to start the ability and then it drains energy as long as it runs.
@michaelhaverman710
@michaelhaverman710 2 ай бұрын
@@Daniel-rd6st it already exists in campaign. Just give the ability to the sentry again. Wont be OP because their energy is constantly at a premium, would actually make it a huge opportunity cost which is exactly what you want powerful abilities to be.
@trobertw
@trobertw 2 ай бұрын
Hear me out on the Mothership: - Give mothership siege up abilitry like a warp prism but with a much larger energy field. Replace it with that time warp ability that never works.
@朕是神
@朕是神 2 ай бұрын
Why defaq would you want to nerf the mamaship? Time warp is half the reason you build it.
@nicholasfactor
@nicholasfactor 2 ай бұрын
time warp is good. co-op already did that with alarak's tal'darim mothership so it exists :)
@erickeating300
@erickeating300 2 ай бұрын
Tactical recall does this far more effectively than what you're suggesting. instead of warping in 10/20 supply like a warp prism you pull 50-100 army supply across the map
@lumburgapalooza
@lumburgapalooza 2 ай бұрын
Petition for a new character: Inspector Observer of Scotland Yard. "'ello, 'ello! What's all this then?" I want to hear your Bobby impression.
@BryanAndrewOfficial
@BryanAndrewOfficial 2 ай бұрын
“More base drops than a skrillex album” lmao
@typoko
@typoko 2 ай бұрын
Ultras need their speed back. They are so fun to watch waddle around the map!
@trobertw
@trobertw 2 ай бұрын
Let's have 3 broodlings jump out of an Ultra carcass
@RoomInArles
@RoomInArles 2 ай бұрын
@@trobertw weird implications but I like the idea
@ramonluque1850
@ramonluque1850 2 ай бұрын
Better banelings
@QTpitarianne
@QTpitarianne 2 ай бұрын
​@@RoomInArles 3 broodlings in a (very big) trenchcoat
@Broockle
@Broockle 2 ай бұрын
@@ramonluque1850 Ultrabanelings, just explodes like a nuke 🤣
@KhanjoOfEthiopia
@KhanjoOfEthiopia 2 ай бұрын
protoss have truly shown that they are the masters of technology by inventing red bull
@alltat
@alltat 2 ай бұрын
The Phoenix has been dispensing that for years.
@leinis80
@leinis80 2 ай бұрын
@@alltat This is such an underappreciated comment by Alltat.
@MatthewStar29
@MatthewStar29 2 ай бұрын
Happy you’re feeling a bit better, thanks for powering through your cold and creating awesome content for us as always! 🔥 also “more bass than a skrillex album” had me dying 😂
@glassberg5018
@glassberg5018 2 ай бұрын
I promise I am not stalking you, I just happened to open KZbin right as this uploaded.
@fuffybear6865
@fuffybear6865 2 ай бұрын
Hard to believe when you have 4 limbs and blink every so often :^)
@primary2630
@primary2630 2 ай бұрын
​@@fuffybear6865 good one
@keizan5132
@keizan5132 2 ай бұрын
2.4k already!!! Thanks for sharing again!
@riccardoficarra1551
@riccardoficarra1551 2 ай бұрын
Seeing guardian shield and shield upgrades being used against terran made me a happy protoss.
@ducpham88
@ducpham88 2 ай бұрын
that 09:12 tell us that Clem is a Pro
@jonathanchevrier4510
@jonathanchevrier4510 2 ай бұрын
such gravitas today winter! hope you get better soon. thank you for making our day a little bit better
@JakeVonDoom
@JakeVonDoom 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely incredible that you reach your like goal after all these years. A great day for WinterGaming and therefore a great day for the world! Can't wait for the next cast :)
@screes620
@screes620 2 ай бұрын
Protoss got used to making a shoe string amount of units to defend and just relying heavily on the battery overcharge, now they are forced to actually make more units to defend in the early game. If you scout that Clem is on a 2 base all in, you DO NOT build a 3rd and then a 4th nexus. You build gateways and robo's to make units.
@eye1351
@eye1351 2 ай бұрын
I think Jimmy just makes up the numbers on the spot
@ShikiKhorinthian
@ShikiKhorinthian 2 ай бұрын
Don't say that. He'll be forced to watch 24 hours of nonstop PvP again 😢
@elgar7252
@elgar7252 2 ай бұрын
Winter - Those Gas Tank decals are Medic Shields!
@ryanaegis3544
@ryanaegis3544 Ай бұрын
You'd think after 15 years and all the other Brood War images he would have figured it out. But no. Instead, we got a nice head slap moment.
@nicholasfactor
@nicholasfactor 2 ай бұрын
I really love your idea of keeping both overcharges and sharing a cooldown. Thanks for a great video!
@TwoVTwelves
@TwoVTwelves 2 ай бұрын
Glad your feeling better
@MUtt-fi9sn
@MUtt-fi9sn 2 ай бұрын
In game 3 we see how ridiculous are terran in PvT. They are capable of building a powerful and numerous army so faster than protoss during all the match.
@FieldTechIV
@FieldTechIV 2 ай бұрын
I was about to make the same comment. Game 3 shows how astonishingly overpowered Terran is. So many of their tactics are cheap, nigh unto cheating IMO.
@RaccManiacc
@RaccManiacc 2 ай бұрын
Both of you are making your assumptions based on THE WORLD CHAMPION's performances. Of course Clem makes it look easy. BESIDES : Clem attacks with two bases when Showtime had spend a decent amount on building his economy with a 3rd base. That 3rd base is both resources and time not spent into making units.
@lahancodon
@lahancodon 2 ай бұрын
@@RaccManiacc He's a shit world champion that only clinches the title with a scam race. Otoh nobody questions Serral's skills.
2 ай бұрын
And showtime is a hick so thats why it looks easy, right? Also, he put 3rd down as he att, it was the early drop is what got him ahead
2 ай бұрын
Game 3 only shows toss still having the same maneuverability issues since day 1 wol. Just really hard to catch terran mobility and speed. Game 2 though...
@GrantVanderHayden
@GrantVanderHayden 2 ай бұрын
"More base drops than a skillrex album"😂😂😂
@RatreoTumips-ig8lg
@RatreoTumips-ig8lg 2 ай бұрын
just watched G2, wow this new ability completely change things ! i like how ingeniously he uses the sentry to make hallucinated units for the mines to target ! never seen this before. Also this encourages more use of the sentry, at the cost of losing it if (when) it gets destroyed. It also changes the early game, gives a bit a variety besides early adept or oracle scout/harass. I imagine it's also an incentive to tech towards storm. Anyway, very entertaining to watch !
@georgeromaniajr.2680
@georgeromaniajr.2680 2 ай бұрын
Tell me if I’m wrong but the disruptor doesn’t even kill a Marauder after a stim either.
@Davineitor005
@Davineitor005 2 ай бұрын
love your dedication man
@hexaquras9374
@hexaquras9374 2 ай бұрын
oh wow with new energy recharge buff you can actually scout if the terran is doing 3 rax or a 3 cc and a bunch of timings that the adept couldn't scout unless the terran got lazy and forgot to raise the depo
@brandontobias1138
@brandontobias1138 2 ай бұрын
Can someone please share the secret to defending a two base tank all in as Protoss from Terran. Honestly seems like there's no answer here. Tanks sieged up with range against stalkers and zealots is just not cutting it. It's all I see on the ladder too as a Protoss, so frustrating
@razhemo4191
@razhemo4191 2 ай бұрын
It's supposed to be an immortal+stalker combo where you try to intercept the push early and force it to slow down and siege all the time while shaving away the marines. But it depends on both scouting it and having enough micro skill to not lose your stalkers.
@taragnor
@taragnor 2 ай бұрын
it's basically going to be a micro duel between you and the Terran. The idea here is that you're trying to get his marines to overextend or catch his tanks while they're unsieged. You want colossus, disruptor or storm. Really any kind of splash damage to kill the marines while keeping your stalkers out of range. The main thing is trying to detect it before he's in range of your base and slowing him down. The more time you buy the better. It's generally an all-in so your main goal is just surviving without losing to many troops to tank fire. At lower leagues you can also try using Dark templar too, if he's not quick with his scans, you can wipe the tanks that way.
@brandontobias1138
@brandontobias1138 2 ай бұрын
@@razhemo4191 thanks I’ll try this. Normally I scout just in time to see it coming but then just end up being stuck in base while they siege away. But picking them apart while moving across might help I’ll try it 👍
@IronFistOfArkus42
@IronFistOfArkus42 2 ай бұрын
Good thing they buffed immortals this patch… right?
@brandontobias1138
@brandontobias1138 2 ай бұрын
@@IronFistOfArkus42 lol
@mcmarkmarkson7115
@mcmarkmarkson7115 2 ай бұрын
Can you believe they actually wanted to buff Terran even more with the previous version of the patch? :D
@Miggysaurus13
@Miggysaurus13 2 ай бұрын
Liberators are hard to micro
@scarletspidernz
@scarletspidernz 2 ай бұрын
@@Miggysaurus13 They're the siege tanks of the air, they should be slow af like the tempest. Terran already have banshee, vikings and battlecruisers
@OnigoroshiZero
@OnigoroshiZero 2 ай бұрын
@@Miggysaurus13 they were not made to be microable. They are brain dead units like the tanks and mines that allow Terrans to wipe entire armies with 0 micro.
@aliceborg254
@aliceborg254 2 ай бұрын
@@scarletspidernz Banshee, vikings, and bcs all suck. BC is only good in t v z.
@ryanaegis3544
@ryanaegis3544 Ай бұрын
@@aliceborg254 The only better air unit than a viking is a corruptor, and the corruptor cannot transform into a ground unit, or be repaired. And the only downside to BC's is they can be abducted and neuralled. Terrans are spoiled.
@PeekABeeGaming
@PeekABeeGaming 2 ай бұрын
Hot take: warp gate is irrelevant if your dead. Buff the gate units to make it a more even early game. slow down the warp gate cooldown by a few seconds to balance a faster gateway build time.
@hanarielgodlike9283
@hanarielgodlike9283 2 ай бұрын
Buff ALL gateway units specially zealots, increase the cost of warpgate research and make it be researched at twilight concil, It willl reduce protoss chease gameplay and at same time solve the problem of their weak early game.
@scarletspidernz
@scarletspidernz 2 ай бұрын
@@hanarielgodlike9283 So Protoss cant cheese with units anymore but Terran can Double Rax and Zerg can Proxy Hatch. Basically forcing Toss to open Forge most of the time
@hanarielgodlike9283
@hanarielgodlike9283 2 ай бұрын
​@@scarletspidernz Protoss can still proxy gateway. Which would you prefer: Strong gateway units, as Protoss was supposed to have. Or cheese? You can only choose one, because what prevents Protoss from having strong T1 units that define the race is the cheese potential that Warpgate brings. Honestly, as a Protoss player, I didn’t choose this race to watch my proud Zealot warriors fall so easily to the other races. Also, with stronger T1 units, Protoss would have fewer issues dealing with cheese from other races.
@scarletspidernz
@scarletspidernz 2 ай бұрын
@@hanarielgodlike9283 Depends on the build time for units because currently with gateway they'd be slow and in proxy gate thats even more costly if your proxy gate fails. marine 18s, maurauder 21s, zergling 17s, hydra 24s, roach 19s vs current zealot 27s, stalker 27s
@theSpian1
@theSpian1 2 ай бұрын
@@hanarielgodlike9283 Zealots need to be in between the speed of an unstimmed marine and a stimmed marine. Also need to apply the same collision patch of ultralisks to zealots -- zealots will always push to the front of the attack group.
@w8stral
@w8stral 2 ай бұрын
Battery overcharge removal is A BIG nerf to P mid game. True, Energy overcharge is a buff early game from what I can tell, but mid game, they just have NO defense at home
@scarletspidernz
@scarletspidernz 2 ай бұрын
You're suppose to build cannons/leave some army home now
@w8stral
@w8stral 2 ай бұрын
@@scarletspidernz They do, but M&M >>>> Anything P has midgame
@aliceborg254
@aliceborg254 2 ай бұрын
I am so sorry you can't just sit your units at home and press the overcharge button. You actually have to place both hands on the key board and be aware of the enemies position.
@ryanaegis3544
@ryanaegis3544 Ай бұрын
Get ready for at least a half year of roach all-ins.
@w8stral
@w8stral Ай бұрын
@@ryanaegis3544 Yup: It should win every game at the highest level now. Also with the Immortal nerf, Protoss's main punch vrs Roach... P is not going to sniff any wins. P is going to go max pressure as MaxPax has shown. I would argue that Z was already stronger mid game vrs P and why the best P players all attacked early so this makes all in's by P de rigour now.
@christian7061
@christian7061 2 ай бұрын
glad to see you back up there :)
@viktorsvanholm8258
@viktorsvanholm8258 2 ай бұрын
0:29 what is that probe doing?
@ryanaegis3544
@ryanaegis3544 Ай бұрын
That Gas Tank, let me give you a hint: "Is it critical?" Still need another one? "Tell me where it hurts." Still not getting it? Okay, last one: "Turn your head and cough."
@chumbucket5198
@chumbucket5198 2 ай бұрын
Casting skills gained a level, the finesse and better health since last week .. we call it a comeback! Saijin blood warrior
@TowerSavant
@TowerSavant 2 ай бұрын
27:30 Grandpa dreams of a StarCraft 2 with Dragoons and Goliaths. And maybe a hive upgrade that makes queens fly to move slightly faster off creep.
@alistairbolden6340
@alistairbolden6340 2 ай бұрын
I do agree a tiny bit less supply makes a big difference, I would have liked to see more guardian shield used, but it was a good ground comp by ShowTime.
@Elsneakakaze
@Elsneakakaze 2 ай бұрын
14:12 Thats the first time ive ever seen that number of scvs dead on screen.
@matthewkalamane6607
@matthewkalamane6607 2 ай бұрын
Entertaining as always, sir! Take my like!
@L-uu7fq
@L-uu7fq 2 ай бұрын
Wow. Disruptors got mega nerfed. I don't know what they were thinking. The amount of dps marauders on stim with their low hp vs stalkers after getting hit by a disrupter is still heavily in terran's favor. The radius isn't large enough to compensate for it's lack of damage at all. The disuptor being nerfed that hard would need 1. more safety aka farther cast range 2. bigger radius to compensate
@theSpian1
@theSpian1 2 ай бұрын
Just make it that disruptors can move while their AOE bomb is also moving. And/or that once the AOE bomb is out, it will deal damage whether the casting disruptor is still alive or not. It will detonate the moment its casting disruptor is destroyed.
@31eGGy31
@31eGGy31 2 ай бұрын
Serral not playing atm or why are there no Serral Uploads lately?
@Schacal6666
@Schacal6666 2 ай бұрын
What does Terran care about losing 10 scvs. Every other race would be out of game. They just drop mules
@to-xh9lk
@to-xh9lk 2 ай бұрын
do the new patches apply to 2v2's? It didn't seem like the changes were there when I played with my friend a couple days ago
@ryanaegis3544
@ryanaegis3544 Ай бұрын
I am still waiting for Protoss to get effective splash damage. The colossus would be fine if it couldn't be targettted by air; I would gladly trade the ability to walk up and down cliffs for not having to worry about enemy phoenixes, vikings, and corruptors. Another option would be to add researchable upgrades or adjustable modes to disruptors to make them useful. Increased nova range, speed, blast radius, and decreased cooldown, as well as three round burst, fire-and-forget, and detonation on impact would all be nice options to either research or switch between as modes. A third option would be to make the tempest deal splash damage, either in a radius from point of impact or in a line as its projectile passes through multiple units until it dissipates (the latter also doing less damage as the shot dissipates over distance and number of impacts). Both methods could be used, with point of impact on ground units, and dissipating line against air units. But the simplest fix is to High Templar: make storm upgradeable so that it has a cyclone effect, briefly sucking all units (friend and foe) to the storm's center and dropping them there (where the player can then retake control). This will make running out of and dodging storms harder or impossible, guaranteeing the storm does appreciable damage to units caught withinin it's circumfrence. Either that or they need to make storm stackable. And please bring back the full deadly feedback.
@PeekABeeGaming
@PeekABeeGaming 2 ай бұрын
high templar could have a personal force field effect that would reduce any damage source to 1 point and it would still not be enough (maybe in the early game.... maybe....)
@Miggysaurus13
@Miggysaurus13 2 ай бұрын
I think Protoss should have kept battery over charge and added energy recharge . But charge per nexus. As make void ray move faster , immortals costing less ,
@johannreed8909
@johannreed8909 2 ай бұрын
So disruptors now suck ass against terran. What about widow mines also not killing in 1 hit?
@aliceborg254
@aliceborg254 2 ай бұрын
Did you watch the first game? How do disruptors suck ass?
@aliceborg254
@aliceborg254 2 ай бұрын
Disruptors weren't even made in the other games. You seem to be a very idiotic person who's mother got railed by 3 black dudes.
@johannreed8909
@johannreed8909 2 ай бұрын
@@aliceborg254 I did. Did you see when marauders now disrespect disruptors even more now. Knowing that they need to take 2 hits.
@alex_marianyi
@alex_marianyi 2 ай бұрын
9:12 Clem never stops impressing me!
@SuperDunk1000
@SuperDunk1000 2 ай бұрын
High Templar drops might be insane now with energy overcharge early
@Mitsibits
@Mitsibits 2 ай бұрын
Hearing your voice Winter reminds me of the Family Guy episode where Peter's voice changes.
@emissarygw2264
@emissarygw2264 2 ай бұрын
"bio is pretty good" - sun tzu
@blooddumpster3427
@blooddumpster3427 2 ай бұрын
EMP should NOT destroy shields. It shouldn't be 100% more effective against protoss than anyone else.
@ericksonmedeiros4566
@ericksonmedeiros4566 2 ай бұрын
But infestors and vipers use energy too. When looking for balance we shouldn't only look at who is winning the pro tournaments. We should look at Race mechanics and Logic. But this is just me... Cause i haven't seen Terrans complain too much.
@redpyramidthing6586
@redpyramidthing6586 2 ай бұрын
true but at the same time, it would only become a counterplay to Phoenix, High Templar, and Sentries if it doesn't have any effect on shields. However, something should be done about it wiping out all of protoss shields with just 2-3 ghosts, they could make the shields upgrade make shields more resistant to EMP, make it a projectile so it travels slower and can be counterplayed by dodging, give sentry an active role in deflecting EMP, make it damage over time or something. The same could be argued for storm but HTs aren't as mobile as ghosts and don't have cloak to begin with, landing one is much more difficult than landing EMP
@IronFistOfArkus42
@IronFistOfArkus42 2 ай бұрын
Whey shouldn’t emp only counter energy units? Why does it need to counter the entire Protoss army? You don’t see toss complaining that they can’t feed back battle cruisers or storm tanks to death
@soramercury7074
@soramercury7074 2 ай бұрын
or atleast those bigger protoss units should have resistances against it + better regen... it is a complete joke how this race feels for quite a while now. imagine having all of your highest tech units that should counter weak bio and still losing to weak bio, because you can't kill them before they heal back to full. i'm done with this game.
@theSpian1
@theSpian1 2 ай бұрын
EMP should destroy shields based on a percentage of max shields and this percentage can even be configured per Protoss unit type, eg maybe armored and AOE units get a higher percentage drain. It should also only drain the same amount of energy used to cast it. Or, it drains a fixed, quite large amount of energy (will drain most single units completely), but if there's a bunch of spellcasters then the drained amount is divided among them.
@julianmhu
@julianmhu 2 ай бұрын
5:02 HAHAHA the pun
@ryanaegis3544
@ryanaegis3544 Ай бұрын
Ghost's EMP to Protoss is basically feedback, but instead of damaging a single target, it damages an entire army. Feedback should definitely be returned to its full deadly strength.
@WhoTheLoL
@WhoTheLoL 2 ай бұрын
I disagree that energy overcharge is tailored to high level players. We noob protoss in the lower leagues don't die to early Terran aggression because it's somehow OP, but because we have no idea what's coming, which is in turn because our scouting options suck compared to other races. Not only do we not have scan or overlord we can use to peek inside the enemy base early, but also we can't have a cheap and expendable unit to act as a forward scout. A terran can use a marine he is going to build anyway, a zerg can use a zergling which is 25 minerals, we are forced to sacrifice a probe (economy) or a zealot (100 minerals). Adept requires too much micro for noobs to handle. So we don't know what's coming and we die. With energy overcharge allowing a sentry to call a phoenix for scouting precisely when the terran would normally complete his wall and remove the scouting probe, it essentially removes the entire problem. If we know what's coming, we can counter a lot better, even on lower levels. tl;dr I love the energy overcharge. I would even go as far as to say that it is a bit OP, coming so early that the protoss flips from being the race with most difficult scouting to the race with essentially free maphacks. Perhaps it should require a Forge, a T2 building (TC/SG/RF) or a quick research (e.g. in CyberCore) before it's available to balance it out a bit.
@something8127
@something8127 2 ай бұрын
Sentry first would have literally fixed that
@WhoTheLoL
@WhoTheLoL 2 ай бұрын
@something8127 no, because without energy overcharge, a sentry first is just a liability. It's 100 gas that will do absolutely nothing for 30 seconds to gather up the 25 energy it requires to drop a hallucination (75 energy), which leaves it at zero energy and for another 60 seconds it can't even cast a single stupid forcefield. With energy overcharge it's instant 150 energy, enough to cast a hallucination and a guardian shield immediately, or two forcefields after 30 seconds. That's a massive difference.
@Jasonsoloka2024
@Jasonsoloka2024 2 ай бұрын
Yeah
@WhoTheLoL
@WhoTheLoL 2 ай бұрын
@@ypsro Your reply, as horrible as it is in its composition and content, is largely also irrelevant. You're talking about all the options protoss have for scouting, but 90% of what you mention is post 5-minute mark. What I am CLEARLY talking about is EARLY GAME SCOUTING. The moment the terran shuts his door, plants a couple of marines behind the wall and starts tinkering with their next move. It is CRITICAL for Protoss to know whether there's a mine drop coming, or cyclones, or marine tank, or banshee, or 3rax, or in-main expansion. If you counter incorrectly, you're dead. Earliest dangerous terran aggression can come as early as 4:00 - 4:30. We need to figure out what they're cooking by 3:30 so we can start warping in and setting up batteries. You ain't going to have observers, oracles, phoenixes, DTs or cloaking mommaships by then ffs. A probe can only die at the wall, while an adept can, as Winter put it, "shove its shade up against their depot and hope that you can smell what they're doing behind it". That's when the sentry+recharge+hallucination, which can reach the terran base by 3:20 or so, is so valuable. Again, this 3-ish minute scout the terran can accomplish with a reaper or a scan, and a zerg can accomplish with an overlord. The protoss had no means, until now.
@vietnamabc2290
@vietnamabc2290 2 ай бұрын
​​@@ypsroobserver cheap lmao, when Terran map hack scan or Z spread spore colony all over the maps see how many observer got killed and feel the heat Not to mention late game T got sensor tower and Z with creep.
@yurijai9801
@yurijai9801 2 ай бұрын
bro you are hilarious. Im glad I switched over from PigCast to you.
@StrigWilson
@StrigWilson 2 ай бұрын
Why not both ? Also harstemcasts is my favorite channel
@yurijai9801
@yurijai9801 2 ай бұрын
@StrigWilson normally I find it unnecessary to rewatch the same match covered by a different announcer.
@roadtrip6075
@roadtrip6075 2 ай бұрын
The intro always crack me up...😊
@geakubdafuqimgivingmyname5035
@geakubdafuqimgivingmyname5035 2 ай бұрын
Hope your feeling better you sound better.🍻 cheers
@stardrifter2872
@stardrifter2872 2 ай бұрын
There defiantly going to have to revert the Ghost nerf.
@markfrank3307
@markfrank3307 2 ай бұрын
He is back!
@markfrost2307
@markfrost2307 2 ай бұрын
I am glad you seem to feel better again! I Smashed the like button and the subscribe button (then i realized i was already subscribed and unsubscribed by accident, so i re-subscribed again).
@Dadecorban
@Dadecorban 2 ай бұрын
Its almost like Protoss needs a ranged unit slightly tankier and damagier than a Stalker but without any special abilities that can brawl early game with Terran.
@Swankie82
@Swankie82 2 ай бұрын
Great cast! :)
@Invicta117
@Invicta117 2 ай бұрын
Was kinda hoping to see Clem get slapped around a bit by Protoss 😅
@weaponizedemoticon1131
@weaponizedemoticon1131 2 ай бұрын
Can you energy recharge a hallucination? Like... The hallucinated Phoenix has energy.
@Toxicflu
@Toxicflu 2 ай бұрын
you can't use any abilities of halluciantions, it wouldnt' pick up anything.
@sillysaili
@sillysaili 2 ай бұрын
@@Toxicflu it's not a question of should you, it's a question of can you :)
@ryanaegis3544
@ryanaegis3544 Ай бұрын
Do you mean recharge the hallucination's timer, so it lasts longer?
@weaponizedemoticon1131
@weaponizedemoticon1131 Ай бұрын
@@ryanaegis3544 No, that would be interesting, but I meant the energy on the hallucinated unit. It has energy, not just a timer.
@justinpeterson7246
@justinpeterson7246 2 ай бұрын
Did bliz finally balance PvT after years of having a raging hard-on for terran? Would be insane to see a protoss actually win a tournament.
@adrenaline98
@adrenaline98 2 ай бұрын
Could Showtime be due for a card upgrade?
@michaadamus7922
@michaadamus7922 2 ай бұрын
One important answer: yes.
@bananablue3058
@bananablue3058 2 ай бұрын
The fact that ShowTime got 1 round against Clem in late game PvT tells alot about this patch.
@PCProphecy
@PCProphecy 2 ай бұрын
Protoss overcharge needs to be returned and to keep things spicy, allow the protoss to keep energy recharge.
@spokoman23
@spokoman23 2 ай бұрын
Re Balance. I think the biggest problem with sc2, comparing to sc1 is stim. So it's needed for TvZ becasue of the number Z can throw at T. However, P has a different setup, they have to rely on expensive units becasue Gateway units are trash. Unfortunately all P units melt in seconds to stimmed MM, example: 25:06 Not to mention that MMM melts buildings wayyy to quckly as well 41:57. And that's only 2 Medivacs of units.
@theSpian1
@theSpian1 2 ай бұрын
Suggestion: marine damage converts to Light when stim is on. Marauder damage loses the bonus against armored when stim is on.
@recuerdameporf
@recuerdameporf 2 ай бұрын
OMG Clem is so fast, made terran OP just like Serral to Zergs
@JD-fy2cf
@JD-fy2cf 2 ай бұрын
Thank God for Ghost 3 supply
@gustavomolinari7522
@gustavomolinari7522 2 ай бұрын
I don't even play SC or SC2, but I watch every Winter StarCraft game just because of his charisma. He should really try his hand on sports, football (not American football), for example!
@afterlife320
@afterlife320 2 ай бұрын
Now that we have unabductable motherships because it doesn’t make sense can we have ghosts can’t snipe while in blinding cloud ?? ☁️
@V_V8838
@V_V8838 2 ай бұрын
The new Cyclone hits very hard and scares me :(
@aliceborg254
@aliceborg254 2 ай бұрын
Your mother hit me harder. Scares me more.
@safchan572
@safchan572 2 ай бұрын
new rule I invented yesterday: a builder cannot built if is holding gas or mineral on self
@quintyss1290
@quintyss1290 2 ай бұрын
Who needs Ghosts, I'm Clem!
@victormegir3041
@victormegir3041 2 ай бұрын
pretty sure clem was on adderall when he fought serral in the finals. He played just beyond perfect. Here he plays amazingly of course but not absolutely perfectly like with serral
@blooddumpster3427
@blooddumpster3427 2 ай бұрын
Is there anyway you could start using StarCraft music instead of the WoW login music for every game
@trobertw
@trobertw 2 ай бұрын
When an Ultra dies i think broodlings should jump of it like a building. Thatd be cool.
@HeavyD-n5i
@HeavyD-n5i 2 ай бұрын
Bro made an Eminem reference and thought we wouldn’t notice
@christophermyles1357
@christophermyles1357 2 ай бұрын
so this game still gets updated? i thought sc2 was done
@Pirata7244
@Pirata7244 2 ай бұрын
Bring the increased Liberator radius back!
@frostjune6072
@frostjune6072 2 ай бұрын
is clem the only player who consistently can target purification novas? I've been watching for most of this year and I feel like hes tbe only player doing that
@alimali6562
@alimali6562 2 ай бұрын
Love your Videos :)
@sendokon
@sendokon 2 ай бұрын
...MOAR!
@chileung1108
@chileung1108 2 ай бұрын
The so called protoss "Buffs" didnt make protoss any stronger or fix the op emp problem. Emp should not take shields.
@dotaicarus7447
@dotaicarus7447 2 ай бұрын
Protoss lost has nothing to do with player skill, for sure right? Showtime is 100% a protoss player of the same calibur as Clem right?
@chileung1108
@chileung1108 2 ай бұрын
Maxpax's winrate against clem is about 40 percent . Is he also not at the correct calibur ? ​@dotaicarus7447
@PeekABeeGaming
@PeekABeeGaming 2 ай бұрын
You know, it could be worth changing the orbital and scan to a global cooldown as well.... (edit: not a minute cooldown, but at least 10 seconds, closer to 20 or 30)
@trobertw
@trobertw 2 ай бұрын
@@PeekABeeGaming I'd like to see it's duration and radius nerfed by 25% each
@samvito3338
@samvito3338 2 ай бұрын
The mothership should be immune from abduction seems like a good call
@mathewsmith8073
@mathewsmith8073 2 ай бұрын
Your not your usual energetic self? Are you getting sick? Again my goto SC2 Channel :)
@georgisirakovbg4979
@georgisirakovbg4979 2 ай бұрын
how is it even possible to have 150 supply at 9 minute mark ????? rthats crazy Yesterday I played 38 minutes game 2x2 and barely make it to 178 supply
@Mag0ne
@Mag0ne 2 ай бұрын
Dude is still a little sick, his voice is an octave lower 😂
@michaelhellwig421
@michaelhellwig421 2 ай бұрын
As long as marines have it all, nothing is going to change!
@aliceborg254
@aliceborg254 2 ай бұрын
lol as long as protoss have zealots and stalkers and zergs have lings and banes, nothign will change at all. That is starcraft buddy.
@michaelhellwig421
@michaelhellwig421 2 ай бұрын
@aliceborg254 I could make a long list of all the things that make marines better than zealots but at the end it's all about money and it's not fair that a weaker race is not winning any big tournament!
@aliceborg254
@aliceborg254 2 ай бұрын
@@michaelhellwig421 sSc2 has money? What money? Sc2 is almost dead. Marines are much higher skill cap than zealots. Meaning to get more out of them you have to micro them, otherwise they are the worst unit in the game. There is not a single unit in the game that takes more micro than the marine. In other words terran is the most skilled race.
@michaelhellwig421
@michaelhellwig421 2 ай бұрын
@@aliceborg254 Pros play for money!!! I'm not talking about average players!
@michaelhellwig421
@michaelhellwig421 2 ай бұрын
@@aliceborg254 I would prefer zealots had the ability to be microed but they don't have range or air damage, they can't chase stim marines because they are slower, they can't be healed but can loose their armor and shields with anti-armor missle and emp! Worse of all they cost 2 supply while marines cost 1, so you can make a doble sized army! As you can see even enough suvs can beat a zealot! It's a game of numbers!!!
@vanyel_etc8695
@vanyel_etc8695 2 ай бұрын
protoss in the mid game looks so much stronger, but jesus it's early game got bad. Being able to just build 2 base marine builds and rolling over him 3 times in a row was wild. Time to buff stalkers a bit I reckon, make that early game a bit more solid.
@aliceborg254
@aliceborg254 2 ай бұрын
Stalkers got a pretty big buff dude... but not as buff as your mother. I like a strong woman.
@zaretul98
@zaretul98 2 ай бұрын
The SCV save at 9:10 is the most fucked up thing I've seen in a game of SC2
@inspectorcolt
@inspectorcolt 2 ай бұрын
Who's here for the comments?!
@Iwmar
@Iwmar 2 ай бұрын
I bet Clem regrets tweeting about wanting ghost nerfs 😂
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