Can the Roxon take on a Swiss Army Knife?

[@ParkerBinion]

Great video! Really nice job - you covered all the important issues. A Fieldmaster or Huntsman might have been a better comparison since it has a saw and the Roxon doesn't have pliers. When you do, that point goes to Victorinox. Even though the Vic saw does not lock, it is 30% longer meaning 30% shorter cut times or 30% larger limb capacity. I agree with you, the Roxon takes the point easily on main blade, scissors, screwdriver and awl. Not only are the Phillips and awl in line, but mine came with a bit kit included in the $38 price. The bottle opener and can opener are a toss up for me. Victorinox might be a tad better as separate tools but it doesn't lock. The tweezers are a toss up. Victorinox wins by default on toothpick, small blade and hook. Roxon has the clip and slightly lower price. Victorinox 0.8 oz lighter and has the edge on proven durability and warranty. It's really close. You can't go wrong either way. Which is saying a lot. I go with Roxon because the saw is my least used tool, and I love the D2 one hand blade, scissors, in line awl, in line Phillips and locking tools. In a 100 years, Victorinox has never made a 91mm or 93mm knife with an in line awl AND an in line 3D Phillips. To me, the Roxon innovations are worth more than the Victorinox proven durability, warranty and weight difference.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Hey Parker. Beautifully written. I agree with all your points. I didn't mention the bit kit because I'm not carrying in my pocket but maybe I should've. As for the price funnily enough starting today I found the Super Tinker on sale on Amazon at 32 which complicates things a bit but I gave the value point to Victorinox anyway. Your conclusion is right on and overall I think it's a very pleasant addition to the world of EDC and I see them innovating in the plier tools as well which is desperately needed in the ecosystem. I'm happy they're around.

[@usernameisusername]

Great comment

[@Albert-Duz-It]

This square form factor in the EDC sector is really everywhere. My torch is now square, my multitool is square and now even my pocket knife is square.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

I think they come in waves. This decade is a square decade. It'll probably start rounding off again in a few years 🙂

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

For the record I like squarish objects so I'm a fan of the current wave

[@corbenj]

For similar dimensions and weight, compare the KS2E against the Victorinox Ranger. They can be found for similar prices too. The Ranger blows the KS2E out of the water though. Nearly double the amount of functions and much better quality. I got the KS2 and ended up giving it away. I love Roxon’s innovation but they’re light years away from Victorinox. A lot of the other tools could easily give Leatherman a run for their money, especially the Flex. They’re much more similar in style and target market (steel grades, locking blades) to Leatherman than Victorinox.

[@pcdoodle1]

Those scissors seem really great! Great balance in your review. Thanks for the video.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Thanks a lot. The scissors are now the standard scissors of the household. They've replaced my go to standalone scissors even.

[@ParkerBinion]

@@AboutThings_byTarif Agreed. The best multitool scissors I have found. FWIW I tested a bunch of small scissors for a pocket EDC "Leatherman/Victorinox killer" kit I put together. I wanted scissors better than the Roxon KS2E and smaller but close to as good as my Klein 2100 electrician snips. I must have tested a dozen. The best scissors, hands down, were the Kai 7100 4" coming in at 25g, or less than 1/3 the weight of the Kleins. Better than Roxon in my testing.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Would love to see that kit! I will check those scissors out now.

[@ParkerBinion]

@@AboutThings_byTarif OK - here are the gory details if you want them. The pouch is a Viperade VE18-S small. It's passport sized at 5x3.5 and easily fits in a back pocket. On the velcro side, I have Cobra XS pliers in the outer pocket with LeverGear Edge XT pry bar/exacto blade and Uncle Bill Silver Gripper tweezers in the inner pocket. On the other side, I have the Kai scissors in the large back pocket. The top pockets and straps hold a 3 Swords Germany sapphire file, 711L Lollipop screwdriver (easily the best pocket screwdriver available) and my Steinwhale bit kit. In the large center zipper pocket, I keep a couple of bit extenders, a 711L hex end ratchet and a "cheat" item. It's a Swiss Army 7 Alox which gives me a saw, in line awl and hook blade. All told it's about 13 oz and doesn't seem to drag me down in the back pocket. YMMV. If I need to save weight, I ditch the Swiss Army 7 which brings it to 10 oz. When using this kit, I clip a one handed folder (Pyrite Lite or Civivi Sendy) in my front pocket. The Sendy has a toothpick and tweezers built in. If I want even smaller carry, I'd ditch the kit altogether and go with the Roxon or a one of two custom Victorinox (Cyber Companion or Compact Lite).

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

WO! Thanks a lot for the details. That sounds like an awesome setup. I love the VE18, was considering it when I got the Alpaka Zip Pouch Pro. I have the Cobra 5 inch in my EDC pouch I keep in my backpack. Amazing tools. I love the 711L tools. Very well made and well designed. I have a Steinwhale kit as well, carried in that same pouch along with their tiny stubby driver. The 7 is great if you need a saw. I used to use one a lot more when I lived in the countryside for a couple of years, but in my more urban existence now I haven't used one for the past year and a half. I have one in my backpack of course but not on my pocket EDC. I'll check out all the things I don't know here (the Kai scissors seem great when I looked). There seems to have been a great deal of thought put into your kit and I appreciate that you took the time to share it.

[@lowlyroblock3097]

Always really like the roxon for the proper knife release and the massive scissors

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Same here. It's a joy to use. Trying out a Cybertool now and definitely missing the one handed knife

[@lowlyroblock3097]

@@AboutThings_byTarif I’m not much a multi tool guy and look more at small pocket knives but the roxon is something I would seriously consider

[@foxtrot000]

Great to see you getting more views again!

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

🙂yeah. The algorithm decided to open a small window for this one. But I think it closed it again pretty quick.

[@lauriegoodridge3327]

At 6:54 Vicrorinox had 3 points, then went back to 2.. Was the final score actually 6 Roxon, 5 Victorinox?

[@wimbraber944]

The newer Roxon elite also comes with a pouch and a set of precision bits and holder that extends the driver.

[@Sgreubel]

The main steel used by both Roxon and Victorinox is virtually the same- Din 1.4114 (X50CrMov15). But the D2 steel in the Roxon KS2E's main blade will last a lot longer before needing sharpening (see 'Cedric and Ada Gear and Outdoors'). All tools lock on the Roxon is a big win in my opinion. The SAK (Victorinox) scissors has a pointy, thin tip which is the only scissors that can cut off a messed-up fingernail that has an edge split. So I suggest carrying a Victorinox Classic as well as any other knife, including the Roxon KS2E or their 804 Flex model, which is amazing (hint hint)!

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Thanks a lot for the info! The locking is definitely a huge plus. I miss the finesse of Victorinox scissors honestly. Carried a NailClip 508 with the KS2 as a supplementary tool but getting a bit crowded. After that video I'm experimenting with the Cybertool to see if I would miss the one handed blade and giant scissors of the Roxon.

[@benhelder7525]

There are SAK's that have locking blades, so maybe compare apples to apples.

[@wesjackson71]

Just subscribed. Great video. I just ordered the Roxon KS2 Elite. Currently EDC a Nextool Mini Flagship and the scissors are awesome for their size. Wanted something a little bigger. Waiting for this multi tool, actually a little excited. Thank you again for the video.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Thank you so much. I find the mini Flagship super interesting and think they nailed the plier/scissors mix. The Roxon has a much better blade and better scissors too but no pliers. Overall I think the KS2 is a nicer carry and better in use especially if you use your blade often.

[@BBQRando]

Respect your opinions 👏

[@YoukklauTube]

Love your review and clear explanation on the comparison. May be a Fieldmaster a better candidate to compare with KS2 apple to apple. To me, Roxon is really a new player in the market that EDC guys should need to know and try. The quality of all Roxon products is always in good, although still not excellent, standard with many new idea such as the modular design and quick swap of the tools. I got my KS2 (not elite version) for more than 1 year and all tools are performed as expected. my overall mark is 8 over 10 but I should need to complain on the bit kit it comes with. The bit adaptor is loosely connected to the tool and it easily detached when using. The quality of the bits is also below standard. So, i can say, the bundled bit kit not only can't help to sales but also pull down the impression of Roxon as a quality multitools. All in all, KS2 is a very good tool but it will not replace my Victorinox and actually I used my super tinker for more than 20 years and the condition is still excellent. As EDCer, I will suggest to collect both and hope the new design from competitors can push Swiss Army to have more new products. Thank again for review and looking forwarding for your future videos.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Thanks a lot! And I agree a 100% with your assessment of the Roxon's bit kit and overall quality. Not really comparable. I used the Super Tinker because I wanted to share an actual decision I needed to make and it was vs the Super Tinker but you're right. I should've at least given the saw point to the Victorinox since it's superior. You're right about pushing Victorinox although I'm not really sure they're pushable! Thanks for taking the time to comment and looking forward to hearing from you in other videos.

[@Stane405]

Gr8 video … you covered all the important things… just subscribed

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Thank you so much. Happy to have you.

[@DanijelLojan]

I think you didn't compare some things well, i.e. put them in the correct category. To begin with, a knife that has a lock, in most of the West (EU and USA) belongs to the category of weapons (regardless of the length of the blade), and you may have problems carrying it if the police find you. A blade about 8 cm long without a locking mechanism can be classified as a multitool. By that criterion it is not comparable because it was deliberately made without a locking mechanism. Another thing about scissors, it all depends on what you use them for. I often use it for nails and cuticles, small cuts, and these big ones are of no use to me. Maybe if they are in a camping set, but for my urban EDC, victorinox is the ultimate no1 :)

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

For most people these two are multitools and their use cases are comparable. Of course if you're in a place that doesn't allow locking blades then I should lose you at about the one minute mark here and the whole thing is moot 🙂. But for those who can, it's a valid choice. And was a very real one for me personally, hence the video. The scissors are indeed not suitable for grooming or precision tasks so you're right, I actually also carry a small victorinox Nail Clip 580 for grooming. That doesn't mean they're not for urban use though! In my rather urban experience they've outperformed all other scissors at everything except cutting hang nails. Which to me was enough to carry them.

[@yasulong]

The Victorinox will last longer because you use them much less frequently LOL. Another point for KS2E is its G10 scale. Have you seen 3rd party G10 scales price for Victorinox?. Roxon win it for me mainly down to the ease of use. I wouldn't dream of one-hand open Victorinox's main blade, while KS2E 's only need a swipe.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

The ease of use is a huge point in favor of the Roxon. I don't see it lasting for as long as the Victorinox but it's by no means flimsy in any way. There are definitely G10 scales out there but for some odd reason I really dislike modded Swiss Army knives 🙂

[@Coup0705]

The SAK scissors are sharp. You can cut the cardboard package with the SAK scissors. I have no issue cutting similar package with my SAK.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

The Victorinox scissors are genius and by far the best tool they make. There definitely things you can do with the SAK scissors that the Roxon can't do so score on versatility goes to SAK but effectiveness for me goes to Roxon. Also I carry a small 58mm Vic Nail Clip in my fifth pocket so I have the best of both worlds on me.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

The package here had two thick layers of cardboard and then inwards some plastic too. As you saw on camera the SAK couldn't do anything. I've cut other cardboard before but in this instance it was obvious that they couldn't handle it.

[@tylergallant4404]

@@AboutThings_byTarifthose are some serious scissors on the roxon. They honestly look larger then my leatherman surge ones

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

They are. And based on my experience with Leatherman scissors much better too.

[@tylergallant4404]

Well made video! Just subscribed

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Thank you! Nice to have you here sir 🙂

[@DarkWafflesOfDoom]

Great comparison, thanks. The scissors on the Roxon are crazy!!! They look really substantial. I like the looks of the Swiss Army Knife, though. And I find liner locks hard to use.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Not the greatest liner lock out there but easier than some. The saw liner lock is worse since there is no access notch. Overall haven't been annoying to use. Yeah the scissors are a beast. Surprised they fit those in such a small package.

[@foxtrot000]

Great video as always! If I had to decide I’d still go with the sak cause the form is less bulky if you get what I mean, you don’t have brick in your pocket with them.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Hey Fox! The SAK is still a great tool and I can imagine other models that I would rather carry than the Roxon. The looks obviously are the most subjective part of the whole thing and I can see someone easily hating the KS2 aesthetic.

[@hngn24]

Great to see this video, can you let me know the ks2e is comfort for left-handed people?

[@tk_thunder4640]

If you can do without the big scissors, look into Roxon's flex companion. It's modular and you can order it with the option of a left hand blade (make sure to specify)

[@axllebeer]

I have the Victorinox compact and the deluxe tinker mostly for the pliers ( and many others) and just got this Roxon Elite. I really like it. I’m trying to decide what will be my EDC at this point. As far as the scissors, if you don’t need precision then the Roxon is just as sharp and has more power. However, when it comes to small precision cuts at the tip of the tool, Vic wins. So I say the scissors are a draw. It depends on the application.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

I think the best test is to carry it for a few months and see if you find yourself needing the other scissors more. Victorinox definitely makes the more diverse scissors. Carrying both I'd agree with you that it's pretty much a draw. What I miss when I'm not carrying the Roxon is the easy one handed deployment of the blade. Lockable is a plus but not a must for most of my uses. I'm currently giving the Cybertool a try and I'm missing the blade more than the scissors.

[@Gamma_Draconis]

I would say that Roxon is a classic young and agressive company. Victorinox, Lethermann, Gerber etc have their reputation but the Innovation is at the moment with Roxon. The Roxon flex is a upcoming multi tool that is like lego, you configurate the tools yourself. They have 30 tools at the moment, tendecy rising, witch are freelly interchangeble. This is the only company that has such a system and that I know of.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Spot on analysis. I just watched Max Lvl EDC's guide on the Flex. Great tool and a great video. I don't think major brands should get to sit on their laurels and watch other companies do great work. I think Leatherman tried something with the Free system but that's not enough and the Arc's pricing is a crime if that's the cost of innovation. I think Victorinox should be ashamed honestly. I don't think they're likely to go the way of Nokia but there are many lessons to be learned from other industries. Hope they wake up.

[@Gamma_Draconis]

@@AboutThings_byTarif As far as I know Victorinox concetrated in the last years on modernization and automisation to compete on the world market. At least the aforementioned stuff Was mentioned on a recent KZbinr Interview.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

They invited a KZbinr called Jon Gadget on a tour after he published a video calling them out for lack of innovation, nothing in what he said after the visit makes me think we'll see anything new any time soon. But at least they got the message.

[@Gamma_Draconis]

@@AboutThings_byTarif Yeah, that's what I ment. They are a recognized brand witch is good and bad at the same time and I highly doubt that someone expect some change in the coming year.

[@davecypress]

Nice comparison. Important to note the Roxon KS2 Elite at $38 not only has the D2 blade but also comes with 9 piece bit set and nylon belt sheath. KS2 also has G10 handle, a glass break and ruler. The pocket clip is too small. Oddly, the KS2 is also available from Olight with aluminum handle.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Didn't know about the O Light thing. Thanks. I didn't mention the bit kit because it won't be part of the pocket carry scenario. Maybe I should've. The sheath is horrible. So cheap and flimsy. The clip is indeed too small. A thick pocket might give it some trouble but should be fine with most pouches. Thanks for sharing.

[@matthewkilner]

The screwdriver on the Super Tinker is almost brilliant. But I really hate the location of it. Having said that, I'd still rather have it over a corkscrew. I think corkscrews ruin a lot of multitools for me. They make handles less comfortable. And I don't think I have ever had an unexpected bottle of corked wine that needed opening immediately when I wasn't in range of a kitchen.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

The driver itself is great. And I like the leverage. But it's just so awkward to use and completely useless in tight situations. I've used a SAK corkscrew once in my life. I 100% prefer having the driver hence my choice of Super Tinker as my daily carry.

[@matthewkilner]

@@AboutThings_byTarif I've been through a few SAKs since I was about 7 years old (I'm now 40) and have loved all of them. They all obviously have their issues. Right now I'm pocket-rocking an Alox Farmer and a Nail Clip 580. And I keep a few extra tools in a Maxpedition micro pouch to cover off most of the problems I can't solve with just those. But I'm considering swapping out my Alox Farmer with a KS2e. Partly for the change, but also beecause it would probably reduce the over-all number of tools (and weight) I would carry.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

That would be my exact current carry 🙂 a Nail Clip 580 and a KS2 Elite. Haven't found anything I couldn't tackle since I got these. I love Alox SAKs but I missed the toothpick too much.

[@matthewkilner]

@@AboutThings_byTarif I'll probably never be able to replace the Nail Clip 580. It has absolutely no right to be as useful as it is. I would consider replacing a finger with it if I could do that and and still have it be detachable. Alox SAKs are just beautiful and are lovely to carry. My Grandad carried a thoroughly weathered one for at least as long as he was alive. And seeing he always have it handy when he needed to cut or tighten something is probably part of the reason I've always felt like I needed to keep some tools nearby. I'd really love Victorinox to come up with something that feels like an Alox but has all of the function of a KS2E. That's the dream.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Lol at the Nail Clip. My theory is that if they make a Compact with the Cybertool driver it would be the best selling SAK of all time. I'm considering a Cybertool M now. That driver and pliers are probably thr only thing that would make me consider letting go of those KS2 scissors.

[@enriquediaz7547]

I’ll have to try one! I’ve heard enough about them!

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

I highly recommend it.

[@elstevobevo]

Boy, we’re going to fight over SAK scissors! Great video.

[@bevintx5440]

Thanks for the review. I am wondering which knife’s tools are easiest to open?

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Thanks a lot. I would say the Roxon are much easier to open but the Victorinox are easier to close 🙂 and if you don't have nails for the Swiss knife then it can get very frustrating. The scissors on the KS2 are way easiet to open and the blade is somewhat easier. If this is the important thing for you then go with the Roxon.

[@bevintx5440]

​@@AboutThings_byTarif thanks, I have had a Victorinox Companion for around 20 years. It’s never been easy to open its tools, but now that I have sore hands I am having great difficulties doing so. I’ve cleaned and oiled it all to no avail. I’ve seen some folks recommend repeatedly opening and closing each tool until it wears them in a bit, but I can’t physically do that. I think I’ll give the Roxon K32 a try. Or if you can think of an even easier one to use, I’d appreciate any advice on that score.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

I don't have anything of that size that I've tried. But definitely stay away from the SOG Powerpint. Horrible ergonomics. The easiest handling I've used by far is the Leatherman Free P4. A breeze to open and close even with one hand.

[@bevintx5440]

@@AboutThings_byTarif, thanks very much. I’ll take a look at it.

[@bevintx5440]

@@AboutThings_byTarif I ended up getting the Roxon KS2E. The Leatherman is much heavier and I don’t need pliers. The Roxon works far easier than my Victorinox, so it’s a keeper. So thanks again 🙂.

[@philvallee645]

Thanks for the video. One thing you forgot to mention about the Roxon is the bit kit it comes with which would to my mind add more points for versatility. As for form factor I’m going to have to sit in the minority in that I really do not like the blocky shape at all. It just feels bulky and as you rightly pointed out the ergos are crap.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Thanks! I should've mentioned the bit kit but my mind was fixated on comparing what it's like to carry these two tools and the bit kit wasn't part of that carry for me. But people should've had that piece of info. Not sure you're in the minority here. They did a collab with O Light for a copy of this with a more aggressively chamfered and rounded out corners that seems to be more ergonomic. It's not horrible but definitely not a high point.

[@haiku-dude]

SuperTinker is more expensive and better for many items but it is a close call. I have both and pick up the Deluxe Tinker, Roxon (with screwdrivers), then Super Tinker.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Right after I shot the video the Super Tinker went on sale for only $32 on Amazon! The value on Victorinox is sometimes insane.

[@nickbernstein]

Bro, it's a tie. You can't deduct points for the lack of saw when you picked the model, and same goes for the screwdriver. They have models like the Explorer that have an inline Phillips.

[@miketayse]

I'm enjoying your reviews! Is that a Fender case in the background? My wife bought me an overly large Swiss Army knife(it's got a small set of pliers) years ago, not a pocketable item. it's a usable piece of art, and just fun to play with, although over time the knife has been more and more difficult to deploy. My EDC is the small Victorinox with the tiny scissors, tweezers, toothpick, etc.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Thank you sir. There a couple in the background but I'm assuming you mean the rectangular case. That's a PRS Swamp Ash Special in emerald green. I know what you mean about the giant ones that you can't hold or use much. Loved ones like to get us the expensive ones but they don't know we prefer the cheaper kind 🙂 If you have the Classic SD it's perfect. Carried it for years. But check out my very first video on the Swiss Card as well. Highly underrated tool.

[@miketayse]

@@AboutThings_byTarif The Swamp Ash looks nice! I've got a few myself, mostly acoustic. Thanks for writing back!

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

I mostly have and play acoustics as well. Sold the PRS a few years back but bought it back from the guy once I had the money 🙂 it was just too special to part with.

[@whiskeydeltasix]

might pick up a Roxon for those scissors alone. Great video

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Understandable. I use them as the default scissors around the house. Even replaced the standalone scissors.

[@benhelder7525]

It's a bit silly giving a point to the Roxon for the saw. You could easily have chosen a SAK that had all the tools that the Roxon had for a fair comparison. IMO the SAK's saw is far superior to the Roxon, locked or not.

[@calebrunne]

I use my victorinox scissors to cut many things, most importantly to me, my nails. Those Roxon scissors would not be pleasant at all to cut my nails. My vote is therefore for the SAK. I do wish the blade steel was better though. Nice review!

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Thr Roxon is definitely useless in grooming and most precision work in general. I should've mentioned that.

[@PatrickKniesler]

Fiest ive ever heard of roxon. Thx

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Check them out. Super interesting company. A great addition to the field in my opinion.

[@usernameisusername]

Great video. Ty

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Thank you username! 🙂

[@タズ]

You forgot the glasbreaker on roxon.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

I know. Thanks for the feedback. It always felt a bit too round. Hope I never have to find out the hard way.

[@bretts6127]

The roxon comes with a bit kit too

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

You're right. I probably should've mentioned it but I was thinking of comparing two tools carried in a pocket so disregarded the bits. But yeah.

[@aegeon1]

well done. swiss army not locking is not good , safety / usage perspective

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

True but there many places that don't allow for locking blades.

[@rajeevprabhu6722]

Why is Roxon not available in India?

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

They have India as one of their shipping countries so I'd say check with them. I think most similar companies prioritize the US which is definitely the biggest market for this type of thing (I see this in my viewership stats)

[@OkieDokieSmokie]

Super impressed by the scissors. Loved your review style.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Thanks a lot! The scissors are indeed impressive.

[@stitchmywoundz17]

Subbed ❤ Apreaciate you n your channel 😊

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

That's super nice. I appreciate the sub and your comment made my day 🙂

[@stitchmywoundz17]

@@AboutThings_byTarif awh your welcome 💚💜💚:]

[@rajeevprabhu6722]

The problem with SAK is ... there is no practical change in them in decades. Same tools ..more or less!

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

There's no innovation there and many people have been saying that. We've been discussing that in a couple of comments here so check that out. But I fully agree.

[@ppolleunus]

Regarding the screwdriver comparison. You can't compare a perpendicular with an inline one. Victorinox has the same model with an inline screwdriver. So it's unfair to disadvantage the Victorinox based on that. Unless you want to make a very precise comparison between these 2 specific models… but I don't think that's useful (at least for that kind of objects). PS: That said, you're still doing great videos, that's just details for improvement 😉

[@ParkerBinion]

True, Vic has in line Phillips. But only with a mag glass or lite module. So a Huntsman Lite maybe to include the saw as well. But now we are talking $100 vs $38. And the Vic doesn't come with a bit kit.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

First off thanks for the disclaimer at the end :-) You've supported this since the beginning so any and all comments are welcome! I'm comparing what you'd typically find on a SAK at this price point and thinking about the main question, which tool would I rather carry in my pocket everyday. In this case I'd rather have an inline screwdriver than a perpendicular one. There are some applications where I would wish for the Victorinox one I know, but in day to day uses (and I've used one actual recent example) I'd rather have the Roxon one. As for the comparison, I am sharing an actual choice that I have between two comparable tools that I own (versus going out and buying a set of tools specifically for a comparison). It's a real decision that I think can be related to someone thinking of buying or changing a tool they have. I believe there's some usefulness to that. These are videos that I do find useful myself but I can imaging them not being useful to others as well.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

I also have another SAK with an inline driver that's actually better than Roxon. But that's a $140 tool. Most cheap SAKs have a perpendicular driver as far as I know.

[@ParkerBinion]

@@AboutThings_byTarif Explorer at $55 is the cheapest. No saw.

[@micahjohnson9184]

​​@AboutThings_byTarif True, I have the Super Tinker as well, but is it possible you could've used the can opener end for the door screw? From what I've heard, it's a flat that works for #2 Phillips and possibly smaller screws.

[@danvelez5838]

You make me nervous when you open those knifes with them shaky hands 😂

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Hahahaha. You get used to it. The shaking is worse on camera than it is in reality.

[@RolandWolters67]

You can't make negative comments about the only true Swiss Army knife dude. It's blasfemy.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Lol. I know. But technically I didn't make negative comments on SAK, I merely made positive comments on a competitor 🙂 In all seriousness though, the default multitool had been the Swiss army knife for decades. They're not innovating much for decades as well. There are companies out there that are doing interesting work. I love Victorinox and so it matters to me that they get their innovative act together.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Check out Jon Gadget's video on innovation in Victorinox. After it their CEO invited him for a visit.

[@ppolleunus]

🤔 Are that kind of comparisons really useful? Or is there a better way? (This is not about you in particular but I'll use "you" in a generic sense as "the person who's doing the comparison", same with "me" = "the viewer") You present the facts and a quick analysis then you share a your point of view according to your preferences and use case(s), and finally you give points (based on you). On my side: The facts are the facts (unless they are false). I can understand your analysis based on the facts. But for your preferences and use cases, it can match mine completely, partially or not at all. So, if I'm "smart", I can see beyond what you say and get something valuable for me out of your comparison even if we don't agree or match on preferences & use cases. If I'm "dumb", I take your conclusions while in fact my use cases are completely different or I reject your conclusions while in fact it's just a matter of preferences. That's why I think that it's better to stay neutral, more focused on facts, and talk about the different use cases (and preferences). Meaning, you don't provide any answer, you simply guide the viewer through a thinking process and lead them to their own conclusion. What do you think? 🤔 But… is it easy to do? Or at least feasible for an unknown and potentially very wide audience?

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

This a very relevant discussion and something that's not necessarily that easy to figure out when trying to make content. For me, the only thing I bring to the table is my experience and my point of view. There are hundreds of reviewers out there who have already made detailed reviews of the products I'm talking about. The best I can do is to walk you through my experience, share my commentary, and yes to sometimes reach a certain conclusion. In the case of today's video, I'm sharing a real decision about my actual EDC and wanted to share with people how I went about making that assessment. I don't see it as smart or dumb, I see it as someone who has seen, held, and ideally used a tool and someone who's still considering it. Two, there's value in sharing and discussing products in my opinion and brands see and follow and that's a net good for everyone involved. I understand the value of neutral presentation, but you only need to see one neutral review and you got all the info. It's a conscious decision for me to be more personal even if that narrows down my audience. I'm a viewer first and foremost, and as a viewer I gravitate to creators with a point of view that I even disagree with sometimes but at least I know it's real and not just a review mill churning out generic info about hundreds of products. I ironically watch those too by the way :-) I have a review of an uber popular bag that I hated. My review was all about how I hated that bag. To me that makes me more useful to a smaller group of people who would care about the things I hated. I didn't even go through all the details of the bag because I don't assume that I'm the only or the first video prospective buyers watch, the only thing I bring to the table is my own experience and point of view.

[@vishwasraut9833]

The Victorinox steel is much better than the Roxon.

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Not the blade. The elite has D2 blade steel.

[@JustineWiniker]

No

[@DogDog173]

please don't don't put your thumb (or any other finger!) on the sharp edge of any knife!

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

You're right. That's good advice.

[@develentsai3215]

Roxon looks just too ugly and cheaply made

[@AboutThings_byTarif]

Ugly is subjective. But it certainly doesn't look or feel cheaply made to me.