Testing the deresonator, does it work....You decide.
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@BryanShull-lt8gzАй бұрын
You have an EC tuner, and a silincer!! The idea behind the limb saver is to give people who don't have the money for expensive tuners and silincers a way to tune barrel harmonics. It is not better than a silencers or a tuner. It's just cheaper. It is also not designed to work in conjunction with a silencer. It is also not better than reloading, it's just cheaper and faster than shooting hundreds of rounds in ladder tests. First find a load your rifle likes, then use the limbsaver to dampen barrel harmonics. If your rifle won't shoot any better than MOA with a silencer or an EC tuner, you have a bad barrel or ammo!!! My limbsavers, (plural) regularly reduce my group sizes by at least 1/4 MOA. I have them on everything from 22lr to 458 SOCOM. And I also reload.
@joewoodchuck382415 күн бұрын
They've been selling these for a very long time. I can't imagine a failure lasting that long.
@stevehicks6162 күн бұрын
75 cent piece of rubber kept me from paying child support
@williamsoutherland9087Ай бұрын
Well, I read someone who commented about terrible groups. I saw groups between something like 3/4 MOA and 1.5-ish MOA, and the last one at near 0.5 MOA all with factory ammo. Not bad at all. Great video!
@GuidedhuntsАй бұрын
That's what I thought, but I'm not going to argue with people. Thanks for watching, I appreciate it! 👍
@rosswitteАй бұрын
Thanks for doing this video. While placing this on barrel no doubt impacts harmonics, I have a theory it operates on diminishing returns. By that I mean that if you have a long and thin profile barrel, it will show the biggest impact. If you have a thicker/shorter/stiffer barrel, then it will have less of an impact. If you have a suppressor or muzzle brake with stiff barrel, then even less of an impact and so on.
@GuidedhuntsАй бұрын
Thanks for the information.
@sethboyce9832Ай бұрын
I’m with ya on that. Idk if they work for sure or not but I’d guess that they can in some situations but if there’s a brake or a suppressor on the rifle, which usually improves accuracy, due to either the weight or possibly the way the gasses exit around the bullet, that there won’t be as much of an improvement with a deresonator
@rosswitte29 күн бұрын
@@Guidedhunts It's just a theory. Thanks again.
@Rich_in_Texas12 күн бұрын
You got it. Read my post, it's just a bit more in depth on the physics and parameters.
@PaulMcillen19 күн бұрын
Good info, thanks for doing the work. The thing that the varmint shooter and big game hunters need to keep in mind is that shooting ability under a variety of conditions is far more important than a +/- 1 moa accuracy variability. I am a varmint junkie fwiw and love accurate rifles.
@prodigy600029 күн бұрын
Well done, when it comes to rifle accuracy, it's very subjective. If you're lucky to have "a shooter" you're fortunate. And yes reloading is one way to reduce any group size in half. But it takes time...at both benches.
@billhuff131Ай бұрын
Having it right against the actual silencer makes sense in giving you the best group. The whole premise of barrel harmonics is having the bullet leaving the rifle at the mid / center point of barrel movement. In essence it's 13 +/- inches from the end. If you got it for $10 bucks and just for giggles ream it out and try to fit it on your silencer. The browning boss system used a weighted end cap that could be turned and set for best barrel harmonics. I have a browning a bolt in 25 wssm and a limb saver deresonator. It tighten my group about a quarter of an inch @ 100 yrds.
@feoxorus29 күн бұрын
Your suppressor gets hot, it will be much hotter than your barrel because the gases spend more time exiting the device.
@hjets5387Ай бұрын
That item works like a charm. I have one on an Anschutz 1710 Competition HB rifle that shoots 1/4" groups at 100 yards.
@jeffsiewert125816 күн бұрын
Thanks for confirming what we’ve always suspected.
@dhooterАй бұрын
Isn’t ten bucks anymore. Thirty now with Bidenomics
@GuidedhuntsАй бұрын
Lol
@stevecorey57Ай бұрын
Yeah, Biden raised the price. What an idiot.
@colingregory7464Ай бұрын
The two sizes of the "apparently" almost identical Archery model are still under 10, I use them to micro tune my balance with a limited care for the damping
@michaelficarro259125 күн бұрын
they're still $10 LOL
@Colt199819 күн бұрын
Amen to that
@noonespecific946323 күн бұрын
Stop it, your groups are fine. What little I know about harmonics, even that tape you wrapped around the barrel can affect them. It looks like that rifle shoots pretty good for two shots and then it’s warm enough that the third one slightly wandered. If I’m not mistaking it did that every time. Even the slightly wild shot was a good shot. You only need that 1st shot my friend, at least in most cases, one well placed shot is all it takes. I zero in and don’t really worry about groups. The barrel is going to change with temperatures increase, the flutes do enhance that effect , less steel to resist heating up to gain a lighter barrel. It does also cool quicker. If you want tight groups , I’ve always had better results with a thicker barrel. The main thing to improve grouping if you just have to do it is the trigger and your trigger finger control. I once had a 22 hornet that my grandfather rechambered for 222 and worked the trigger (he was a machinist) it was a pre 1964 Winchester model 64. He stamped an additional number 2 in front of 22 hornet and that rifle drove a few people insane trying to figure out what it was. Aside from all that, it was the lightest trigger I’ve ever experienced. I could ball up my jacket up and lay that rifle across the hood of my truck and shoot 100yard dime sized 5 round groups about every time. It was that trigger. There is no substitute for a sweet trigger. They make or break a gun for me personally. I would forget the gadgets and stick to the basics if you want to see groups where every hole touches. Maybe use a rifle designed more for punching hole down range rather than a sport model with a lightened barrel on it. I’m not meaning to be critical though, I enjoyed the video. That’s the first time I’ve ever even heard about those things you were trying. The concept is interesting I agree.
@Guidedhunts23 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching and the comment. It's a hunting rifle, so I'm good with the groups.
@twalrus111 күн бұрын
Yeah, I also noticed that the third shot was usually the flyer that spread the grouping....what ya got yourself there is a two-shooter gun....two shots and a warning shot, two shots and a warning shot...that's to scare off the varmint's brothers.
@chriscurtis7723Ай бұрын
I just saved $ 10. bucks. Great video as usual.
@GuidedhuntsАй бұрын
Thanks for watching. 👍
@heathboeddeker5401Ай бұрын
I've typed it before and i'll type it again handload's (presion) is the way to go for ultimate accuracy Sir..
@GuidedhuntsАй бұрын
I'm getting the components together to start reloading. Thanks for watching.
@sheepsfoot2Ай бұрын
Absolutely handloads shoot tighter groups than any commercial ammo , work up a load on what shoots best in a particular rifle !
@congerthomas1812Ай бұрын
Right, weight the bullets, good case's already shot in that gun, neck sized only, same length. 5 shot groups 1 grain at a time. Chrono your best group, and hunt all those bullets. Ever different weight bullets, different charge.
@jacobwilbert101829 күн бұрын
@@congerthomas1812 1gr increments i would say are pretty substantial, that is a good way to become frustrated and miss several nodes in between that wont be discovered. By all means to each their own, but if i was giving advice to someone who doesnt know better i would tell them to start their ladder testing in .3gr jumps or something like that.
@heathboeddeker540129 күн бұрын
@@jacobwilbert1018 agree I get close with even grain charges and than .5 grain and get best with .1 grain charges in 10 shot strings. 5 shot strings isn't as reliable in my experience for tightest groups in any rifle.
@rogerf7265Ай бұрын
I may be wrong but I believe that the tape on the barrel has a dampening effect. I've seen others that they worked for but none had tape on the barrel when they adjusted it.
@feoxorus29 күн бұрын
I put a small piece of tape over the muzzle when I'm hunting to keep debris from falling down the barrel. I don't bother removing it when I shoot, it makes no difference on the bullet. That's my use for tape on my rifles.
@rogerf726528 күн бұрын
@@feoxorusThat's one piece of tape, not a piece every couple of inches for the length of the barrel. That's the whole point of free-floating the barrel. It eliminates the contact with the stock that interferes with the natural harmonics of the barrel when fired.
@anthonys2397 күн бұрын
Cool video! It cracks me up how many experts are in the comment section on these type of videos. 🤣
@Guidedhunts7 күн бұрын
Lol, I just let them talk.
@shenanigansagain5273Ай бұрын
It makes most of a difference on the thinner, lighter barrels. As soon as I saw your setup, I knew it would make zero dif. Your rifle is awesome as it is, you just need to shoot different ammo loads and bullet weights to see what it likes best for premium accuracy. And just because the ammo box is ''pretty", or says max or super doesn't mean its the best for your particular setup.
@GuidedhuntsАй бұрын
Thanks for watching. 👍
@raymondbuie529214 күн бұрын
Great , thank you for showing it… for 32 years I’ve reloaded for each rifle I have bought, not just a few either. Finding the right load each one likes; bullet type, weight, speed and so on. I never found all the work (fun) not to be absolutely worth it! Respectfully, That set up should be capable of groups much tighter than that consistently. However , I have never shot with a suppressor so I cannot speak to what it may or may not do to a given load. I would be willing to bet even so, it would be a matter of tweaking the load to find what the combination preferred.
@Guidedhunts14 күн бұрын
I agree that reloading is the best way to tighten group size. But as of right now, everything I shoot is factory ammo. Thanks for watching.
@JasonDay-zu3kxАй бұрын
Love your content! I use these as a last resort if I’m running factory ammo and have had some luck mainly on lighter barrels. I don’t use tape and have never tried them with a suppressor. The rifles that worked the best were brownings and larger calibers. My old 22/250 started shooting poorly and I put one on it and it helped that’s the only small caliber that showed any improvement.
@GuidedhuntsАй бұрын
Thanks for watching. 👍
@frostypreppersk3593Ай бұрын
I think it's your gun or the ammo. Those groups are brutal
@sylviacandler554114 күн бұрын
I have used these on two guns, and they work: A. Savage pump 30/30 went from 3.5" groups at 100 yards to 3/4" at 100 yards B. Rem 270, achieved bug hole groups I start with the doughnut touching the forearm of the stock, move forward 1/2" of an inch at a time....they work and are not easy to move at all!
@Guidedhunts14 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@bobgordon17549 күн бұрын
Very well said . Its nearly impossible to shoot to your rifles potential under hunting conditions anyway.
@patrickclark105216 күн бұрын
I run a boss 2 harmonic balancer on my 7mm mag A-Bolt. This is a Browning patent/ product. I also have the Browning Boss 2 harmonic balancer smithed on to a Winchester model 70 30.06 . Outstanding accuracy on both rifles.
@billstaudt2378Ай бұрын
it's on backwards, don't use tape and 1/4" adjustments.
@JIBREAL19677 күн бұрын
I was about to write that😂😂😂. I have one on an "Air rifle" (.457 air force Texan) and that has helped immensely with my groups.
@TheRange713 күн бұрын
LOL, he says the EC tuner is LOUD. That's my favorite part about them. I love using insanely loud brakes. The only time I won't pull out a rifle with an obnoxious brake on it is when our club is crowded. I don't wanna be the guy who ruins other people's days with obnoxiously loud brakes. That said, those brakes are so good at taming the end of the barrel and keeping me on target, they're just amazing. I wish there was a brake that did the same that wasn't sooo l0ud. Ahhh, no I don't...LOL
@Guidedhunts13 күн бұрын
That ec tuner is going on my 338 lapua. It will be an ear buster! 😆
@TheRange713 күн бұрын
@@Guidedhunts lol
@bobmcmillen450229 күн бұрын
I’ve used one and it took a 25-06 w factory ammo from 2 moa to 1/2 moa. It did not have a suppressor on it. Fluted barrel may make it less usable. Good video.
@Guidedhunts29 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. 👍
@zigmogcreator14 күн бұрын
I have one on my Remington 700 in 223. For the specific ammo i use it cut my groups size down. I don't have the fluted barrel like you have but it does work on my rifle. I have mine about 1 1/2" from muzzle.
@NotchFoxАй бұрын
Had a Harley-Davidson that had a bad handlebar harmonic vibration exactly at cruising speed in 6th. Would put your hand to sleep! Added small bar weight under right grip. Changed the harmonic frequency. Still vibrated, but at only at slow speed. Guess this could work on a rifle, with correct weight, barrel thickness and barrel length.
@easttexan293312 күн бұрын
Never used a suppressor, muzzle break, or deresonator.....never will. My shooting is confined to
@Guidedhunts12 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. 👍
@markthegunplumber837629 күн бұрын
2. thick O-rings will work as well your just changing the harmonics. I have a customer that shoots on the US F-Class team and when I change his barrels i thread the muzzle for 2 thick threaded washers that resemble a reloading die jam nut that have graduations on them he tunes the barrel and locks them down and swears they work well for him. I always work up my best load then try to tune it better, on factory ammo you get what you get. Your suppressor has already changed the harmonics of the barrel so i'll bet you're going to get minimal changes. There is a reason top comp. accuracy shooters don't use fluted barrels, it is because if the flutes aren't 100% perfectly spaced and 100% perfect depth 100% perfect length when the barrel heats it will shift. Barrels shift with heat anyway and flutes just intensify that effect. I always recomend to customers for maximum accuracy no fluting or carbon fiber barrels and I prefer a #3 minimum contour stainless steel barrels over chrome moly and i have a serious dislike for short barrels. Stainless is easier to thread and ream and you get a better finish with the added wet weather protection. Costs a little more upfront, but it's well worth it in the long run.
@timothy____1989Ай бұрын
Browning A-Bolt Boss in .300 Win Mag, the Boss worked great. Basically allows me to tune the barrel to a factory load instead of tuning a handload to the barrel. The key is to buy factory ammo in quantity of the same lot number. If you change anything; lot number, manufacturer, etc, you have to retune the boss. But what a joy; more time at the range! 🙂 The Boss also acted as a muzzle brake, reducing felt recoil. I wish Browning would bring it back. This sounds like the same concept.
@COSpacegunner8 күн бұрын
I used one on a 24" HBAR barrel that shot great without the Limb Saver Deresonator. With the LSD, the groups were about the same. The problem with Limb Saver Products is that the material degrades and becomes like chewed gum in the hot sun. The LSD is cold-welded to the HBAR and the outer surface is gummy.
@sid35gb14 күн бұрын
That device is just a rabbit hole. Some target shooting disciplines add barrel weights to improve accuracy by reducing the movement of the barrel. The science behind it is more complex because it’s related to when the front and the back of the bullet disengage from the rifling in the barrel.
@1mccactus20 күн бұрын
Nice groups for factory ammo. Fluted barrels have 3 advantages. Extra surface area to improve cooling. Reduced weight. Extra rigidity for given diameter. I don’t think it would affect your resonance point. I picked slight point of impact changes, 2nd and last groups looked best. One advantage is it’s probably going to help if your rifle falls over on a flat surface. And, The old saying, “You’ll never know unless you give it a go”. 🤞
@DavidJones-xl4izАй бұрын
Never tried one on a fluted barrel, couple of things, the tape wasn't test shot and the movement was extremely course, I find moving it 1mm at a time finds the sweet spot and 2mm can easily add 10mm (1/2inch) to the group size. To answer some of the comments on here, I agree load development is normally best but some landowners insist factory loads only to be covered by proof house testing to prevent litigation
@feoxorus29 күн бұрын
1mm? You'd burn hundreds of rounds just to discover that your ammo isn't right for your rifle.
@DavidJones-xl4iz29 күн бұрын
@@feoxorus if you want to get a better group out of the best factory load you tune your barrel for that load, not rocket science but if you want to do better then you need to spend some time on the range, after all, unless you're working outside the weight stability for your rifle it's tweaking from the outside instead of the bullet jump and powder charges
@chriswilliams194428 күн бұрын
This seems like a demonstration of ‘one born every minute and two to take advantage.’ 😂
@paulnirschl6500Ай бұрын
You probably won’t like this but it won’t work with the suppresser. All they do is change the harmonics of the barrel and the suppresser is already doing that.
@richardbruyere9523Ай бұрын
I put one on my 22. 250 model 70 and it tightens up my groups to consistent minus moa always.
@harrisonmccullough118316 күн бұрын
I have one on my AR223 20 inch barrel at 2 inches, but have it turned around. I can shoot 1 inch groups at 100. I hand load and that makes a big differance.
@randyjohnson684529 күн бұрын
25 years ago i started using them on rifles and center fire encore pistols and even muzzle loader rifles and both of my 15' encore muzzle loader pistols...20 years ago i had plenty of time and the ability to focus and keep a open mind ..i was at a 1000 yard range near waldo Florida..i only needed 300 yards and i took my 30 30 encore custom pistol with the thick Limbsaver..over several days only using federal 170 grains my best 300 yard shot group of three was 1.35"..it definitely had a Limbsaver
@bambo195726 күн бұрын
The silencer also dampens harmonics significantly
@brooksmaxey9745Ай бұрын
These are merely rebranded stabilizer dampeners from their existing archery line. They work marginally for that purpose but not much. In archery (likely firearms as well) this theory works best when the rubber has a counter weight on it as a mass to capture the vibration so the rubber can more efficiently dampen it.
@wolfhunterv1Ай бұрын
Heavy flute bbl. Don't think it will help. Standard thin barrel it can help with whip
@KathrynLiz1Ай бұрын
Widgets like this show most effect on skinny barrels with big holes down the middle. Not surprised that changes were minimal on your .22 rifle with a big fat fluted barrel.
@bk727829 күн бұрын
It’s like Ben Stiller and Ben Aflac had a baby
@Guidedhunts29 күн бұрын
😄 🤣
@codypaul418120 күн бұрын
I could see maybe on a pencil barrel but I use a Remington 700 with a m24 barrel in multiple calibers and that has great barrel harmonics that’s what the barrel resignator is for to change barrel harmonics
@Joshkayla848716 күн бұрын
5/8" group with factory ammo id take that all day
@fatheadpr22 күн бұрын
mass of the supressor has more of an effect then the mass of the limb saver. its like expecting to go faster in your 300 hp bass boat by dropping in your 2 hp trolling motor.
@BrettBrown-ln7bzАй бұрын
Adding weight (i.e. suppressor) on the end of the barrel will dampen harmonics (barrel movement) as well. Run the same test without the suppressor and see if you get similar results.
@ScottAT11 күн бұрын
I have used them before, they work well with pencil barrel budget guns
@dukehoffman12414 күн бұрын
I use one on a Remington 700 that is bedded and pillar posted in .270 . It made a difference for that rifle . I don't see that it would work on a fluted barrel and I have mine turned the opposite from yours .
@Santaheckler29 күн бұрын
The ATF will soon make it “against their rules”…🤫
@davidbilbrough372628 күн бұрын
My mate John Langham won the Queen's prize at Bisley in 1966 for beating the world at 1000yds. Ive got a photo of this cup: more like a silver bird bath with a knight and a horse cover. This was using standard army rounds with a barrel set up to shoot on the 'upstroke'. The roto-forged barrel was made longer than needed and cut back until the right harmonics were reached. As there are now masses of different weights of bullets and calibrers, the manufacturers should set the gun up and give recomended loads. Then muzzle brakes and moderators will have to be factored in by the shooter. It's not difficult, but ALWAYS try the gun before adding anything! Don't get 'magnumitus' a lighter bullet does not wear a barrel as fast and could give a better MOA which will kill just as well with better placement and at long range target shooting.
@Cr0wmagnumАй бұрын
The science involved in this is amazing ti say the least. Any little thing can have a impact on accuracy good or bad. My guess is you would be more likely to see it make a difference by removing the suppressor.
@carlwilliams6300Ай бұрын
I had one on a 700 bdl 7 mag years ago the gun shot half inch groups with and without no difference in it IMO didn’t need it I was younger and was hung up commercials
@SofaKingSkilled17 күн бұрын
My 30-378 Accumark threw groups all over the place until I put one of these on. Still get changes in POI (groups are still good, but different weights would change drastically) nowhere near as spread out now with the rubber dampener.
@bradboles9202Ай бұрын
I have one on a browning 300 win mag it helped I have mine close to the forearm
@GuidedhuntsАй бұрын
Nice thanks for watching
@peteregger7928Ай бұрын
Looks like a repurposed dirt bike rear shock bumper?
@davemcmullen6682Ай бұрын
Have some magic beans I'll sell you.. Only 10bucks
@michaelspiering758526 күн бұрын
Anything that one changes on any part of the whole system can affect the way it resonates, even scope caps. Even the tape you put on the barrel could affect it.
@deedraper979620 күн бұрын
I have them on my .117 to my 7 mm, very accurate. Always recommend, hope you find the same results
@williamh654717 күн бұрын
It does work, doubt very seriously if it will on such minor ammo, it is more for higher powered rifles. In layman's terms it interrupts vibrational harmonics very quickly to keep the barrel from flexing before the projectile has left the barrel...........make no mistake about it though, you do not need that huge piece of rubber to achieve this, you can use the appropriate size coolant hose, rubber or silicone to do the same thing, you know the coolant hose you buy for water pumps etc 😎😎. 👍👍
@jonathanechols998519 күн бұрын
I think anything added to your barrel can affect the harmonics.
@devinbooth60917 күн бұрын
Nice, pretty interesting. You should have group another 3 for the last to see if it remained a little more tight. You might had been correct about the fluting!
@Silenced4yt15 күн бұрын
Bow users have been using the same concept for years. I was surprised it was so small with the bullet traveling so fast…
@jhs8496Ай бұрын
Proof that people will buy anything.
@TheArby13Ай бұрын
Fishin lures catch more fishermen that they do fish. 😁
@b101uk9Ай бұрын
its just the notion of mass damping an harmonics, however the utility is very much going to be limited by the fundamental rigidity of the barrel and your shooting stance, i.e. if you have a thick barrel rather than a thin one, then you will see less function, also you have greater chance of seeing function if you remove the silencer (which is doing some mass damping anyway) and shoot without using any support other than your arms, but really then its more about the CoM of the gun relative to your supporting arm, which the silencer is doing to some degree by moving the CoM of the gun toward your supporting arm\hand - but either way being rubber is idiotic - like the old adage, " there is fishing tackle for catching fish and fishing tackle for catching fishermen".
@jarodchronister3522Ай бұрын
I’ve used items like this before and just my opinion and from my experiences, they kinda sorta work a little on heavier calibers with longer barrels. I’ve used these on my 7mm mag and my .300 win mag. Both with 26” barrels. The difference with and without was not enough of a difference to make a difference. I generally shoot distance and tune to no greater than 2moa but try for under 1.5 moa. This would make a bigger difference without a suppressed rifle also because of the weight at the end of the barrel.
@lloydryan-e4l24 күн бұрын
A number of years ago I put one on a Remington 700 Classic in 3006 it didn't do much I took it off and it's somewhere in my shooting stuff.
@Guidedhunts24 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. 👍
@gunsquawk444326 күн бұрын
I just watched the official LimbSaver video. You have yours on backwards.
@Guidedhunts23 күн бұрын
The package says it can go either way. Thanks for watching.
@brucegillespie654Ай бұрын
Thanks for the test . I am so surprised you gave up a Cortina tuner to try that ! I get you want to use a suppressor.Hand loads for me only in a great caliber like the .22 -.250 . I m assuming that the action is bedded and tight !
@GuidedhuntsАй бұрын
The tuner brake is for another rifle that's getting some work done on. I just tried it on the 22 250 worked well. It was just loud, that's all. I don't reload, but I am buying the components to start. Thanks for watching.
@davidstuck286616 күн бұрын
I am betting that its not making a lot of difference because you have that long suppressor hanging off the end of the barrel. that, at the very end of the barrel, will have a lot more effect on barrel vibrations than the deresonator ever could have.
@dwightramer466826 күн бұрын
I have used them for 10 years, mostly to keep from breaking glass in equipment cabs. Put it at the end of the barrel, makes a good rubber bumper. Have not noticed much on accuracy.
@moonwalker817223 күн бұрын
I would say you had about a 33%-50% improvement on the second setting. I would put it back at that spot and make smaller adjustments.
@Guidedhunts23 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@ADAM-qr7bi26 күн бұрын
I can tell you from experience it works with both my .22rimfire/springer air rifle. Went from 1/2” to stacking with both. Don’t know how it works it just does. Try more than one. I’ve seen hunting shows and vids where hunters had 2 sometimes 3.
@cyclo360Ай бұрын
Buy a Concentricity guage, run every round through it to group....0-1 , 1-2, 2-3 thou. Then use the 0-1 thou for group testing. This eliminates "bent" bullets that do not run true to the bore By using this method you will reduce those nasty flyers which ruin a group. You will find out of every box of 20 there will be at least 4 or 5 rounds measurig way past 3 thou runout...those rounds will destroy your group and will not show the true accuracy potential of your rifle and ammo combination. I do it to my ammo and flyers are now pretty rare.. good luck, and all the best from Adelaide South Australia..
@idahoron16 күн бұрын
I have several. The first thing i see is that yours is much looser than mine. Mine is super tight on my barrel. I have one on a CZ455 17HMR varmint, Bergara BMR 22lr, CZ 527 17 Hornet varmint, and a savage B17 precision 17HMR. I know for a fact they work.
@Guidedhunts15 күн бұрын
I had to put oil on my barrel for it to move cause mine was tight to the point I couldn't move it without oil. Thanks for the comment. 👍
@greybone777Ай бұрын
Obviously the suppressor has it's own effect on barrel harmonics. It's limiting your range of adjustment. Maybe you would have different results on a 22 inch or longer barrel. Browning and ruger installed tuners pn the end of the barrel. There's data on how it actually works.
@milo55510016 күн бұрын
Thank you for doing this. I have been wondering if it would help my favorite 20” 7-08. An inch group is the best I can squeeze out. Looks like squeezing it against the suppressor is the way to go. Subscribed
@crdavis61Ай бұрын
They make good recoil pads, but it look as if the vibration dampener is kind of a gimmick.....
@GuidedhuntsАй бұрын
Yea, I do like their recoil pads. Thanks for watching.
@robertpatterson340613 күн бұрын
I have a 300 wsm out of an A- Bolt and without a tuner or anything else it cuts bullet holes at 100 yards all day long .
@ryankienbaum889418 күн бұрын
I have one wright now havnt used it but going to use on Hatsan .457cal.air rifle. I bet it works with this 33in.barrel . The tape destroyed your test ❤
@er9895Ай бұрын
Ive had better luck with those closer to the stock with fluted barrels....7mm-08 and .243 both mossberg ATR 100 (not known for accuracy). You're better off with pencil marks than all that tape, tape acts as a dampener itself.
@DE24RIP13 күн бұрын
Lightsaber works excellent on archery not so much on rifles
@felgate1125 күн бұрын
All sorts of materials around a gun barrel will change its "Natural Frequency" (another term for Resonance) - start with say a small, drilled block of scrap wood, or a rubber, bike handle bar grip etc .... for Free !!
@alanknight441813 күн бұрын
I have one on my browning gold deerhunter 12GA slug gun. I feel like I am more accurate. I also have mine on with the pointed end towards the end of the barrel.
@williamnelson9892Ай бұрын
I don't think, that vibration damper will show tighter groups on the gun in particular, as it has a fluted barrel ,making the barrel stiffer. Also more importantly barrel vibrations kept to a minimum.
@jmac6242Ай бұрын
Works for the marketing team!
@johnnyheskett477514 күн бұрын
And having tape on ur barrel messes with the harmonics as well try it without tap
@lenholt741913 күн бұрын
You've heard slide whistle's? Similar concept. I studied and played trumpet. This is physics. The size and placement of a mass can cancel out harmonics in a wave. In music we perceive we hear a note. Guess what its just like sight, no two people see or hear things the same. in music there are overtones plus and minus on.a given note. The idea is to cancel out the overtones or harmonics to make a pure easier to play note. Read up to get all the jargon. nodes and "Tuned". Long range shooters have be.en at this for years. Observing your video. You have roughly less than a 1 moa rifle/ammo combination. Nice shooting. The tuner worked better towards the end of the barrel. You're thinking. Will the tuner be applicable to a hunting scenario? Opinions vary, a 1 moa or less is most adequate.
@Guidedhunts13 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. 👍
@jimmymack6938Ай бұрын
I believe the gun does not like the ammo, and the suppressor extended your barrel length.. reduced results..verify with your best settings and at lest a 5 shot group. Try with sup to see where it's moving and how much it's opening. Just my opinion and thoughts. Great video 🫡
@pickin4you10 күн бұрын
Now, I’m gonna TRY to educate you on barrel harmonics. All barrels will whip as the bullets travels down the barrel. The warmer it is outside, the more of a whipping action it will have. So these things are worthless. You would have to change the position daily and maybe multiple times a day. That suppressor affects the barrel harmonics. You would be best without anything on your barrel and work your load up so it will quit a wadded home. So stop with the barrel attachments and work on your reloading skills. You will end up with a gun that wads a tiny hole. Those flutes have NOTHING to do with that rubber thing. It does stiffen a barrel so the harmonics are different. So again, don’t waste money on these gimmicks. A good 22-250 should wad a tiny, tiny hole. So again, work on tour load and throw that rubber thing away.
@RonaldColeman-ef2rc16 күн бұрын
Good show. Thank you
@randyjohnson684529 күн бұрын
I would try without the can...I would reverse the Limbsaver..your gun seems to be a two shot grouper...I first bought them 25 years ago..your barrel doesn't look thick enough for the big Limbsaver..they make two sizes
@jamesdarnell750829 күн бұрын
I'm new to channel,love it. but I'm undecided on the resonator
@Guidedhunts29 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. Appreciate it. 👍
@gunsquawk444326 күн бұрын
Closer to the action would make more sense.
@shauncraig2872Ай бұрын
I bought one of those years ago and threw it out.
@dhe77717 күн бұрын
Does not have to contact, it is the weight.
@johnnyheskett477514 күн бұрын
Worked for me 300 win mag went from 1.75 in group to a 3/4 inch group
@Rich_in_Texas12 күн бұрын
1st: Three rounds is not enough, you need at least five per grouping assessment. 2nd: The fluted barrel will definately impact any impact the device might generate. 3rd: The longer and/or thinner a barrel might be, the odds of impacting the reverberation of the barrel will grow with the device. On a shorter or thicker barrel, not as much, if any. 4th: A .22 rifle will have a pretty low Power Factor, so there may not be much barrel reverberation to actually correct. 5th: Since this is literally a physics test, and not a marksmanship test, the rifle should be locked down, taking any shooter error out of the equation. 6th: The distance to target should be at the scope/rifle ZEROING distance. Beyond that, you are allowing factors of adjustment and environment to come in. When the cartridge is fired, the identical energy is released each time; and the bullet doesn't care how far it travels to impact. What matters is how much the barrel reverberates, and being able to discern any difference, so the shorter the better. It is telling that your groups are 'off', in a negative manner for the test. Again, this is not a marksmanship test, but rather a physics test. Marksmanship needs to be removed from the test. 7th: The test should also be taken with the barrel being DEAD horizontal, not allowing the tiniest deviation. Adjust the height of the target accordingly, not the barrel. My call: This device may work to dampen reverberation on longer barreled/ more energetic rounds. The longer a barrel is, the more likely a reverberation may come into play BEFORE the round passes the muzzle. The more energetic a round is, the greater the briscence of energy upon its containing device (the barrel) before the round passes the muzzle. Variables matter. Isolation matters. Parameters matter. In your 'test' it appeared more a marksmanship repeatability test, rather than could the tuning device act upon your specific barrel. Once accuracy of the barrel/ firearm is qualified, THEN marksmenship comes into play, which is the most blatant variable left. If the manufacturer did not include the points I raised, they were deficient in explaining the physics of its tuning. Or... they'd rather depend on psychology to simply sell an item. The more ACCURATELY designed and manufactured a SPECIFIC BARREL is, the less likely a tuning device would be needed. I hope this helped. (I own several dozen firearms and several $5,000 scopes)
@Guidedhunts12 күн бұрын
I own a plane but I don't know how to fly it. Thanks for watching. 👍