Can this Work with a Camper? My Parking Heater Experiment Part 2

After a few disappointments, I tried again to make a portable 5kw diesel parking heater keep a small fiberglass trailer warm. PLEASE SEE THE FIRST VIDEO TO UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THIS EXPERIMENT! It's here: • Can this Work with a C...
This is the second and final video of the series.
Sidenote: I did not correctly quote the final power consumption. After 15 hours of use during the last test, the heater used 24% of my battery, therefore 76% of my battery storage remained.
As to why the heater kept shutting off, it appears it was an issue with the battery and not the heater. Thanks! SP
Disclaimer: This is beyond the intended use of this heater, and is not recommended for safety reasons. It is merely an experiment and should only be viewed for entertainment purposes.
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[@geenote]

I have the same heater with blue controller outside of my truck shell camper sitting on the tail gate. Easier setup that works out great on the truck shell and doubles as a shop heater. Good video - Thanks for all the work and sharing information.

[@SlimPotatohead]

Hi Keith, great to hear from someone who understands the concept. Too many can't see beyond the typical permanent van installs, which just don't apply here. Thanks for thinking outside the box! SP

[@SlimPotatohead]

Keith, I hope you don't mind if I put a link to your "Testing Truck Shell Diesel Heater at Camp" video here. I think yours is a great concept and my viewers would benefit from it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZOtk4lud9p0hdU Thanks! SP

[@geenote]

@@SlimPotatohead Awesome! Thank you so much!

[@Peter_Enis]

I have the same heater and am satisfied as well (not so cold here in Holland), If you get a longer heated output hose you can warm the engine bay (and interior) of the car before you take off.... Love your experiments!! Kind greetings!

[@atak135]

This would be great in a big tent piped in from outside. It would also be beneficial for ice fishing.

[@phillalonde1509]

Hey Slim good call. That heater is a heat exchanger and it's meant to recirculate the warm intake air and won't ever suck in diesel exhaust. Also those 2 or 3 power disruption prevented the heater from doing its proper shut down rountine. I would suggest you run it full blast to clear out the fouled glow plug.

[@SlimPotatohead]

NOTE FROM SLIM: I released BOTH Part 1 and Part 2 the same morning, so please make sure you watch both to understand the full story. Thanks! SP

[@elineblind348]

For whatever reason KZbin only sent me notification for part 2 so I wrongly assumed it was second part of that one you removed from the platform ;) so I watched them backwards. All good. Thanks for sharing the experiment. We've missed seeing you. Here's to 2021! Happy new year SP.

[@patsykluting-lucas3804]

I really don't have a sense of smell...with an exception-- if I drive in town behind a diesel vehicle and my window is down..wow that wreaks.

[@johnathanpearson3203]

It will switch off at low htz because of carbon build up it needs to run at full power to clear it every so often. Using the factory settings and temp regulation is best so it can cycle the burn. That's my 2 cents. Lol.

[@CanadianNortherner-i8g]

@@johnathanpearson3203 I never run mine under 1.8hrz , 1.6 was factory set on mine . Don't know why his went down to 1.2hrz ! It'll soot up for sure

[@rlsingle00]

I was lucky and discovered the first one, watched it and then discovered the second part. Happy new year Slim. Best wishes to you.

[@30AndAWakeUp]

Nothing makes me happier than to end my 2020 watching some Slim Potatohead!

[@bdv861]

I installed one in my Aliner two years ago. Not the all in one version, just the heater itself. It's about the size of a shoebox. Drilled a 4" hole in the floor and mounted it in a cabinet. The hot air duct is only 2" long. The heater flange is sealed against the flloor so all the exhaust is outside the trailer. The fuel tank is mounted outside in a tongue box. Power is supplied from one of the trailer's fused circuits. I suspended the pump under the trailer with 1/8" elastic cord. I can hardly hear it. In the summer I remove the fuel tank and the heater remains but it's small and light. Controls are mounted on a cabinet face that I can reach from my bed. Overall I am very happy with it.

[@Tuckerclan]

I'd really like to see your installation. I think this is a great idea as the Wabasto heaters in the old days were great, but problematic.

[@ou812m8]

Ben, nice to meet you...

[@bobham919]

the one slim has is the 5k. its cold where he is and i plan to get one of these. but i wanted to know if it was auto on and auto off. like you set the thermostat and it will hold the temperature? or do you choose setting 1 and leave it or setting 2 and leave it? slim said its really hot to the touch even on low maybe a 5k size is to much for a camper in not so cold weather? my trailer is about 15ft long. any suggestions for the size i need?

[@kevzz108]

@@bobham919 from what I've heard it doesn't auto on off but it will reduce the fuel and power to accommodate the temperatures set. also the exhaust gets extremely hot so if u want one in a trailer I wouldn't recommend the all in one and make sure u use the mounting plate provided n make a big enough hole for the exhaust as the base of the heater gets quite warm. The heater is very simple to wire up and on most a pre made wiring harness is provided so the only hard bit is choosing where to put the heater

[@russellskillen4070]

Similar story as well, Ihave internaly mounted with external fuel tank a 2kw unit in my avan, recirculate the heated air and it works great, i have extended the exhaust , but with a few Minor adjustments they work great..

[@jdux9089]

Hi Slim. I hope you take note of all the positive, "Thank You" comments that you get. You have a lot of impact on a lot of people (including me!). Everybody subscribes to multiple RV blogs, but IMO only you and Adventure Van Man can "touch" people the way you 2 do. Keep up the Great work. Thanks, John

[@ncplantdoctor]

This is exactly what I was considering for my gooseneck trailer. After more than 30 years of firefighting, I could not tolerate propane anywhere near my sleeping area because of the danger. So I have considered the diesel heaters and I was impressed with the “tent” installations where the heater was outside. I have seen another trailer with an external heater installation and it seems practical, although his exhaust is routed up above the trailer with the stand he built. The diesel heaters also provide dry heat, helping to control condensation. This was good information. Glad you persisted and shared it.

[@MrFrodo1111]

been running 2 diesel heaters in my fifth wheel for 2 years best decision ever..use way less power..I'm off grid, less fuel and much cheaper then propane aside from the obvious danger of blowing up..and yea they are totally safe to leave on all night when it is really cold which I would NEVER do with a big buddy!

[@marknesselhaus4376]

A real treat having both videos back to back :-D

[@hiknfo]

Normally I won’t watch videos that are as long as your’s are but I find that you’re very thorough and not just stretching it out. I loved what you did with the pellet stove.

[@thizizliz]

I like the honesty of your review. The good, the bad & the ugly. For me the ticking would be annoying but beats being too cold. You will find the right solution for YOU over time & its your camper, your experience.

[@restlesshomebody]

I thought that modification had multiple uses, you being you! I would not like the diesel heater. I miss your woodstove! (Sticks go in, heat comes out) Thank you for another informative presentation, happy camping my friend!

[@papajeff5486]

Getting caught in a storm without the right equipment is not smart. A six hour shut off is a, “NO GO”. Good you learned about the Jackery thermostat. Finding some kind of heater shelter in bad weather is gonna be a challenge; good luck. You are a pro at insightful fixes. I have faith in you. Remember, your exhaust tube needs to get bigger as it gets longer. I know you know why. Good you need the vent in your trailer, whew! This covers a lot of issues, my friend. Quite the experiment. Thanks. Texas

[@anthonyc1883]

Interesting. Did not know that physics require an exhaust pipe to get wider as it gets longer. There's obviously a formula for that? Automobile exhausts pipes don't do that, but perhaps it's because they typically don't extend very far, relatively speaking?

[@Roarmeister2]

Luckily he had this thing called an automobile that he could simply jump in and warm and toasty!

[@papajeff5486]

Anthony, several things impede flow in a tube, obstruction, bends, length, radius, blah, blah, blah. Thing is, a motor has to exhale, exhaust. So, we put a tube there to point the exhaust out of the way. The engineers have worked out the back pressure that exhaust puts on the engine. That pressure has a relatively wide range of tolerance. Usually, shorter is not a big deal. But, if the tube gets long, then the length begins to impede flow and increasing back pressure may effect the running of the engine. Hope this helps.

[@johnaverick7468]

Thank you so much for converting measurements and temps for Us Yanks. Love your content and like the fact you break down efficiency values. Like when you said about " 7 ounces of diesel an hr. " Can't get any simpler than that. SO many of these instructional vids. always fall short of being Crystal Clear like yours do.

[@virginia_in_the_rearview]

As a person who works in the Quality field, I was happy to hear you recommend to purchase something that has been tested to safety and quality standards. Excellent review!

[@mariolavergne5258]

I repair the webasto and espar heaters in transport truck! When I bench test the heaters I use stove or furnace fuel! Less smoke and doesn’t stink as much

[@mariaperham6382]

Smart to leave before the storm got worse. That’s what my husband and I understand about our journey, the need to be flexible.

[@connielynn195]

I don't foresee ever needing most of this information. However I watched both videos wondering if you would figure it all out and how you would come out in the end. I still like the wood stove you made before and enjoyed that process also. My dad was a tinkerer also, but I am afraid he would not have worried quite so much about some of the safety issues as you. He still lived to see 87 years which to me means he had a great deal of common sense and enough intelligence to figure out how to live a comfortable and fairly happy life. Enjoyed the videos.

[@theonlywoody2shoes]

I’ve worked on one of these fitted inside a camper van, and it recommends that the plastic/see through fuel pipe does not connect directly to the pump, but instead be spliced to a piece of rubber pipe a few inches long either side - not sure if this would work on your all-in-one unit? I’d removed the rubber clamp holding the pump to the van body (just hanging the pump on the pipes either side of the it) and it wasn’t that much quieter, but putting the short lengths of rubber in line made a much bigger difference. I’m sure there’s some science to explain why, is the diesel fluid transmitting the noise and the rubber pipe bits allowing this to be less loud? Thanks for keeping us entertained and educated, and wishing you all the best for the new year ahead.

[@fuzzybobbles]

I have one inside my van built into the end of the kitchen cupboard. Pump is insulated with foam, mounted on soft rubber bushings. Fuel lines are also on rubber bushings. The heater is also mounted on rubber bushings. All the pipework has minimum bends as possible. I use 2 mufflers on the exhaust. But the ones you can see through each end and not the ones with a baffle. I also properly balanced the fan and motor. Sound deadening rubber mats car audio enthusiasts use are stuck inside the red metal case. My heater is now as silent as an electric fan heater, but puts out a lot more heat. In winter I can get the inside of my fan that hot I can sit naked and still sweat. Never need it running more than 25% in normal winter use.

[@kristiejacobs4854]

It’s always interesting watching your modifications and improvements. I admire your ingenuity and tenacity when you take on projects.

[@garychristison5773]

We were camping at a state park and a motorhome was making a really annoying rhythmic metallic noise. I got out the binoculars and spotted the source. A woodpecker was hammering away on the electrical outlet box. I felt bad for thinking it was the RV. It's good of you to think of giving fellow campers courtesy. Enjoyed the two part series, it was interesting and informative.

[@Anrirua]

Its always useful to blame the woodpecker in such instances. Like that curse of enclosed spaces, the barking spider.

[@billyjahn]

Hi Slim. I follow your escapades with interest as I bought a small caravan (About 10 Cubic Metres inside) in June last year to travel the UK, I've only had one trip in the summer though due to our lockdowns. Even though the UK doesn't get too cold I still need occasional heat as it can get chilly, currently it's -1 degree Centigrade. I didn't want a gas furnace/diesel heater/Buddy heater as I would use up my Propane in no time and/or have to find a space in my van to either fit and/or drill holes in the van. So I decided to try a Tilley Lamp for light and heat. I have just tested it and it raised the inside to 22 Degree Centigrade from 4 Degree Centigrade in an hour. Not too shabby. It uses 1.5 Imperial Pints (0.85 L) of Paraffin (Kerosene) every 12 hours, so cheap to run. Yes, you need ventilation but that's no bad thing to keep the condensation down. It stabilized at 22 C even with all the windows (Three) open an inch, hardly any condensation either. It puts out about 700W of heat by my calculations. Heat and Light for very little, Win Win as far as I'm concerned. Wonder if you would do a test? You can even cook on them if you make a small wire cage to put on the top to stabilize the pan on. So possibly a Win Win Win. I got the idea from the yachting and fishing world where they are apparently commonly used here in the UK.

[@billyjahn]

Oh and a couple of small fans to move the heat around, one horizontal and one blowing down from the roof. Obviously they produce CO, but no more than a Buddy Heater or similar propane heater, so a CO detector is vital, I ran it for 2 hours with no issues but I would never go to sleep with it running.

[@martinroy9922]

I put one in my small enclosed trailer and it worked fantastic. It was -22 Celsius outside and +24 celsius inside. The pump is annoying sometimes but it is safe. I’ve used it 2 weekends. It is safe.

[@azclaimjumper]

Which brand & model are you using?

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

I believe anything that uses internal combustion is inherently unsafe yet we trust the manufacturers to put all the safety controls in place and that they actually work. I have not researched the safety of these inexpensive heaters made overseas yet I guess you have? Its good to know.

[@nigelwilliams8191]

I fitted the permanent van install in my trailer and in a way I actually wish I had bought the self contained portable heater like yours to give me flexibility and versatility in my shed at home when I. Didn't need it in sub zero temps. Great video, thanks.

[@baileydillion9331]

Well thank you for doing this experiment with the diesel heater. I was thinking about getting a diesel heater for my RV. I definitely wouldn’t do that one. That’s way too much work. Excellent Experiment greatly appreciated. Peace and freedom

[@Txstomper]

We have diesel heaters in our trucks and they work great. When I do use mine I get used to the clicking from the fuel pump and don’t hear it after time. Really enjoy your videos.

[@MrCeodez]

Slim, really appreciate your videos....I can't help but think you would have better success with the intake hose being inside the trailer....a home furnace depends on reheating the home's warm air and not heating the outside cold air....also maybe consider an insulated box to protect the unit from exposure and maybe dampening the fuel pump??...thanks again for the demo 🤓

[@genespell4340]

That would lower the amount of fuel burned per hour by half or close to half. I could be wrong. Hopefully someone has done that and will let us know.

[@FalcoWolfe]

Very informative. I have seen these heaters used in homemade campervans but this is the first time I have seen it used in a trailer.

[@grannypeacock1218]

Yay, I've been waiting for this one 😀 I love the way you always think outside the box to make an object uniquely suited to you.

[@jackhershaw6295]

Awesome information! Just what I was looking for, all my questions answered all at once and I didn't have to bounce around for hours, days or even weeks to find the answers. I now know that I will have to use a 3" fireplace flange, heat sealant, double walled steel pipe for the hot air coming into my tiny all metal tear drop trailer. {all metal means the floor is 1/2 thick aluminum plate, the sides and front are 1/4 thick aluminum plate and the roof is topped with 1/8 thick aluminum sheeting} I have 1 inch poly foam board on all interior surfaces and covered with thin Birch Plywood. I am going to use the fireplace flange that has an air gap and the double walled steel pipe to prevent any heat damage to either the wood or foam causing fire or melting, safety first! Your video gave me all those answers, thank you so much!

[@Alan-ur9jo]

Top marks for a very thorough test of the diesel heater!

[@JDseller1]

I am happy to see your experiment. Like I posted before I have only used the Expar heaters. They are much higher quality. The ones we have are mounted right under the sleeping bunk. I have never noticed any clicking noise with them. Your laying less than two feet away from them. So I am betting a different fuel pump that is quieter. The diesel smell at startup and shut down, I would bet it is because your air inlet is outside where the exhaust is. IF the heater is operating normally, the heated air and the exhaust are two completely different systems. So there should not be ANY chance of cross fuming. So I would try hooking the air inlet to your shower drain so the trailer is a closed system. This should make it a little more efficient too. As for the clicking noise, try isolating the fuel pump mounting. Bolt the pump to a piece of rubber and then bolt the rubber to the case. I do mean rubber like a mud flap in thickness. This should isolate the sound. If it is currently bolted solid to the metal case it could be acting like a sounding board, which could amplifying the sound.

[@danmanx2]

Slim, I love it when you do product testing. The honesty is something many of us enjoy the most. I definitely see a great application of this for many, but the weird problems, such as the bad pipe and the overall quality of the diesel heater would probably be a danger to some. Thanks for all the warnings. I really think if you're "in a bind", this could potentially save your life though or at least keep you warm.

[@joharmon2148]

I thought the exhaust was way to short and to close to the intake. But you did manage to fix that, others I have seen on YT Channels all made that clicking sound, which believe me it would drive me crazy. Thank You for doing this test for us.

[@jimh.8138]

Wow, a 2 for 1 Slim Potatohead video special. What a great way to end a lousy year. Happy New Year to all.

[@theresafinn4257]

Good to have you back. Tick tick reminds me of my grandmother’s mantel clock.

[@davidnoirot4255]

Great video! I always wondered if the jackery could handle that kind of draw. I personally would look into insulated hoses for the air. And would absolutely draw the fresh air from inside the trailer.

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

No. No. No. Even though it is not combustion air...

[@brucebear1]

I absolutely agree, David. If not, for every cubic foot of hot air that comes down that hose, a cubic foot of warm air inside the trailer is pushed out (through cracks around the door and windows, vents, chases for wiring, etc.). Heating an enclosed area that way is like bailing out a boat with a cup without a bottom. It would make a significant difference i the heating efficiency to have the intake air come from inside the closed trailer.

[@genespell4340]

@@brucebear1 just like central heat and air conditioning in a home. As long as you have a carbon monoxide alarm and a smoke detector, everything should be nice and cozy.

[@carolyncolinhogarth8732]

Hi happy camper. We just wanted to take this time, and thank you for your efforts of putting out great videos of the quiet and peace of our beautiful Nature of Canada. There is nothing more beautiful than the solitude of a seat by a Lake with the sounds of a Loon...Thank you Slim, and thank you for your ongoing efforts to show us all the interesting updates you give to your products. Nice. We find your videos so interesting and informative. May your miles of travel be filled with the joy of Peace and Harmony, and we will be watching and be grateful for you...Carolyn and Colin Hogarth Osoyoos B.C. Canada

[@SlimPotatohead]

Thanks Carolyn and Hogarth, best wishes to you in this New Year! SP

[@jamelcampbell4984]

Try putting an insulation around the pump. That might help the noise. Love the videos.

[@coachgeo]

they sell a silicon cover just for this purpose.

[@m8e]

Looks like the pump also is pretty much bolted to the front panel. Some rubber mounts/bushings could help too.

[@flyingirish66]

I didn't know about the silicone cover, but I did wonder about isolating the pump using the same concept as they do with the water pump in most RV's, a number of rubber grommets to keep the vibration of the pump from making the back of the heater case a diaphragm. By the way Slim, love your work, great videos. Wish I knew ahead of time about your Natchez Trace trip a couple of years ago, you were in our back yard. Keep up the good work.

[@jamelcampbell4984]

A squeegee on a telescopic handle looks like a great tool to clean water and snow off solar panels. I have a aolar aystem to install next year, I will make a squeegee for myself. Thanks for the videos. I need to finish with my diesel heater and test it before I need it.

[@ScubaSteveCanada]

I use a large squeegee that can be extended. Use it for cleaning dust or washing them. It would work for snow too, but not anything frozen on them.

[@kathie__1]

I always enjoy your videos and look for them. How nice to end this year with TWO of your videos! Thank you slim, stay safe, and Happy New Year

[@thefrugalsnowbird4098]

Thanks for giving me the idea of mounting the heater (one of the lower profile models with remote control) on a hitch step with an 8"x18" platform. I plan on using one of the vans existing passive corner vents to move the heated air into my 2012 Transit Connect.

[@rrhopewell]

Glad you’re back. I would totally be scared of that heater. My stepdad used propane and I absolutely loved the warmth of it. He Also has a wood stove another love of mine. Awesome review though.

[@packiejoegilheany1171]

I’m doing an RV build and seriously thinking of a small wood or pellet heater for heat. I plan on being in the southwest mostly so I think it would work well enough. I love them.

[@thosoz3431]

@@saywhyt Not just crazy explosive but produces huge amounts of water. The diesel is dry heat.

[@skookapalooza2016]

Very thorough review with a lot of good information. Great vid. I think it's cool how you always figure out an affordable way to do everything. We don't all have big budgets so I really enjoy your channel.

[@FordManiac76]

I use a beach umbrella to cover my portable generator all the time. I keep it low, around 4 feet, and it works great.

[@trock7198]

This is the Slim I love to watch. Experimentation, camping and a cold one. Great job Slim

[@cocochanel9291]

Awesome work SP. Your creativity and willingness to attempt new things is fantastic. Thanks for taking the time to share with all of us ! Hope you had a safe and healthy 2020.....and may you have an even better 2021 !!

[@cabbking]

Slim, I really appreciated this analysis. My problem is getting thru the summer night in my minivan with my partner, my pet parrot. Can’t make fumes, parrots have very sensitive lungs, so must be electric and you know the challenges there. COVID has simplified the travel question for a year but you have helped eliminate the diesel possibility. My minivan is not tricked out with any heat in the cargo zone. I have been trying to use heating pads for overnight. Parrots need to be in the 60 to 80 degree range. Guess I’m out of ideas.

[@darkskys163]

I’ve been thinking of getting one of these for my garage shop. Where I live it doesn’t get all that cold, but it’s cold enough. The compactness and the amount of potential heat it can produce is appealing to me. You mentioned the diesel smell and like you I really hate it. I’m guessing it’s due to having the intake located outside which could pick up the exhaust from the combustion. I would be routing the intake to get air from the garage so that would eliminate the diesel smell. I’m glad you continued with your experiment and shared you experience. Thanks Slim.

[@geraldsavory899]

I have one in my garage and it’s absolutely great when I’m working….keeps me toasty warm. Do it you won’t regret it

[@rickanderson11]

Thank you, Slim, for another well organized and presented review of one of your "experiments" at improving your life on the road. Always loved the uniiqueness of the A-Liner, but this new trailer seems much more secure from the elements. YOur still and video camera work has gone from very good to quite excellent, and I look forward to that part of your posts. Also appreciate seeing your reports during this never-ending quarantine we elders are facing. Stay safe and venture on! RickA

[@karolmolitor4675]

I laughed when I saw the rigged up umbrella. Points for major enginuity!

[@jeffsauer2198]

Thank you for your video series... very enjoyable! as for the ticking noise of the pump, I've heard suspending the pump with zip ties reduces the noise a lot.

[@67macattack]

i have been using a buddy heater for years and am trying to get away from it, i am always off grid when camping and been wondering about these for sometime, your video was simply awesome on answering my questions, as always waiting for your next one and have a Happy New Year

[@AdventuresWithBrian83]

I just installed one of the Happy Buy knock off brand semi-permanent heaters inside the dinette bench of my 2021 Coleman 17b trailer. I discovered, just like you, that 24" of ducting is not enough to prevent the cheap vents from melting... I invested in the Webasto brand vents and they hold up much better!! Webasto has been making diesel airtop heaters for decades so they really know how to make the systems work. These little heaters are great for RVs and much safer than the Mr. Heater propane units people are burning inside their RVs.

[@benguenther1162]

Thank you so much for for doing the research on the diesel heater.. I had in mind to use it exactly the same way.

[@L.C.A.car_adventure_channel]

That was an proper review because you talk also about the safety factor what is the most important thing when you install a heater. With that I am now even more determent to install the heater outside my RV👍.

[@stealthexpressvan8475]

Thanks for doing the converting C to F.

[@tonyp4917]

Great 2 part video. Looking forward to 2021's adventures. I've had a China heater in my 8 1/2' truck camper (permanent install type) for 3 years now and have had no issues with it. Glad you found the "6 hour" problem. Diesel air heaters are definitely not for everyone. All the best in the New Year.

[@jamey48]

I don't know why yours clicks like that. I've used a few in big rigs, and other than the whine on start up, they have never made that noise. It could be the fuel pump. Or maybe the fan is hitting the shroud. But that's just a guess. I do know a wabsco is around 1k. So very expensive. Great video. I'm still trying to figure out what I want to install in my van build. So all information is good information. But I'm still a long way off. The only thing i've done so far is the installation of 2 maxair fans. Love the video's Slim, the amount of information you give us is great. Good luck !

[@BushmansAdventures]

I have the exact same unit arriving, I had planned to mount it on my second pickup truck to keep the interior dry / warm / mildew free (it gets pretty damp / wet with condensate in the fall & winter). However , after watching your videos and others on the internet, I'm having my doubts now. Primary concern for me is a power source. I had planned to run this off the trucks second battery (deep cycle) and have it run 24 / 7 (with refuel every few days). Not sure I'll be able to do that now.... seeing the power usage on your video. I may just use it as a temp portable unit for a few hours, every couple of days. Love your video, you really went into the pros and cons of this heater unit. Cheers from BC 🍻🍻🍻

[@dave_n8pu]

Having worked in a factory for forty years, that taping noise you kept mentioning, I 'tuned it out' quite easily just because of worked in a noisy factory. Several times during the video I 'stopped hearing it' until you mentioned it. So I would suggest it is something that a person can get use to given enough time. Just like one time some time ago the in-laws came to visit with a pop up style of camper. We had them set up so it was shielded with the house away from the major highway that was about 500 feet away. That next morning they ask us how we could sleep with 'all that noise', we both looked at them and ask, what noise? We were use to it and didn't hear it, tuned it out.

[@nejdro1]

I remember back in the 60's, my grandparents lived about 100 yards from the North-Western railroad tracks. Every night at 9, the whole house would shake when the steam train came through at about 60 miles per hour! My grandparents never heard or felt it! :)

[@G_de_Coligny]

@@nejdro1 for these noise I also tune them out easily. But when they stop I tend to freak out knowing something has changed and being not immediately able to know/remember what.

[@kz1000guy1]

I used an 8kw heater set up very similar to that in my 28 foot trailer for hunting season in November. Put it in a box so it was covered for weather. Put a metal duct into a small bunk window. Was on for 7 days straight. Used about a gallon of diesel per day. Used about 1 to 2 amps depending on set temp. 150 watts of solar was mostly enough to run the heater and the fridge, lights, charge phone, etc. Ran the generator for a couple hours in the evening if required. They work good if you want to tinker a little for the setup. I hung the fuel pump on an angle with zip ties and barely heard it.

[@azxp]

Nice review. I like your reviews because you pretty much cover everything. Also, you always convert metric measurements to US. That is something I want to do in my videos. I feel that is something we don't do here in the US. It is nice to watch a video, and not have to look up the conversion. Especially when there is a lot of data.

[@cmanofthewoodscentralus3217]

After watching both videos I think you gave a fair evaluation for your experience. This experiment weather or not a person uses this model or brand does indeed give a guideline as to what a person needs to consider when they purchase a diesel heater. Look forward to anything else that you test as I think you are very Safety conscious and Efficiency minded as to getting the best Bang for your money. Thank You for sharing your video with us.

[@davidneilson3508]

Two videos in one day how awesome is that 👍👍😊

[@jackrealhardman]

Thinking the same thing how lucky are we

[@ScubaSteveCanada]

Yes, wasn't anticipating a new one until the new year.

[@glenn9892]

I truly appreciate your concern about other people camping near you and having to listen to the loud clock sound. But if you are having to use a heater me (being from Texas ) would not be outside unless I had to. It is a great review and I am now thinking about one. Or it is small wood stove. Stay warm and safe.

[@JanelleVocate-Ames]

Again! So good to see you!

[@pbsalfen]

Thanks for the review Slim! I was waiting for the full video, and was delighted to see two! I wasn't sure if this would work for my application and, sadly, it won't. I'm thinking I'll have to go with the inside model so many hundreds of others have used. I wouldn't have known for sure without this video. Thanks again!

[@AZC1949]

Slim, thanks for this. You saved me a lot of time trying this myself.

[@fincherelli73]

I love your videos slim. i have the same heater and have been using it in the cold winter in minnesota. i heat my garage and my portable ice shanty. one idea for you is remember to run it in high for at least 10 to 15 minutes before you shut it down. it will keep the soot build up down and possible less smell. I use mine on high a ton and never smell any diesel personally I just was ice fishing for a week ran and 3/4 to high for 5 days kept me toasty warm . again thanks for the videos you are a value to me.

[@macgames]

Thanks Slim, that's the kind of set up I was thinking about after seeing other videos.

[@macgames]

The clicking would drive the wife nuts...

[@davidjones8680]

Well Slim, many thanks for the double feature today, it came as a very pleasant surprise. I have read through all the comments so far, and it seems like there are many many clever people out there who have all the answers for us. They go from from a freezing fuel problem to the requirement for brain re-training, and a 101 others in between. I was at the very point of purchasing one of these cheap Chinese heaters a few weeks ago when you put up your first (now deleated) video. I decided to hold fire and await your trials. Your two subsequent episodes today have given me very useful information and food for thought, and I sincerely thank you for the time and effort you have put into these extensive tests, they have shown me that I need to explore more options before choosing where to be spending my hard earned cash. As always I look forward to more of your excellent content, no matter what the subject matter will be. I send my best wishes for the New Year, safe travels and good health. Kind regards, David in the U.K.

[@msoulforged]

Safety first, very smart move Mr. Potatohead. It is never a good experience to wait for getting rescued during a snowstorm.

[@KristoferTravelsHomesteading]

I have the same feelings about the ticking with mine. It's annoying. At least you are staying warm in your rig. Great videos.

[@fourbyfourer]

I sure do like your videos and the style of them Slim. A great review on the little diesel heater. Thank you.

[@SlimPotatohead]

Another vlogger has picked up on my portable concept and made a few improvements. Please check out CheaperJeeperTV's video at: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWmtYnp6jK6VY5I Thanks, SP

[@CC58]

Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary, Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore- While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping, As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door. “’Tis some fuel pump,” I muttered, “tapping at my chamber door- Only this and nothing more.

[@grannieannie1371]

Nice 😊

[@anthonyc1883]

Love it!

[@richardhouvener6423]

What are you raven about?

[@dottie2884]

Wonderful !!

[@packiejoegilheany1171]

Having just drove passed Poe Cottage in da Bronx, I appreciated your little diddy a little bit more.

[@apocalypticminister1369]

Thank you slim! You've done great by making this video no matter what the trolls have to say... Practice makes perfect...

[@paulreed1142]

Unless you already have one, I suggest you look into purchasing a satellite distress beacon like "Foresty Forest" uses. Be safe and HAPPY NEWYEAR!

[@SpectreOZ]

Smart to plan for the worst than be caught short in an emergency... VancityVanlife has also since purchased such a device (popular with remote travellers here in Australia as well) 👍

[@owenolson8668]

@@SpectreOZ mmm(

[@cindym6138]

Really appreciate that you also give Fahrenheit. Thanks! Missouri USA and that ticking would drive me crazy!!!

[@elineblind348]

Yay you're back. Hope your holiday was great.

[@JesterHellsingborg]

I habe been a truckdriver and we have webasto heater...u get use to the sound.... Happy new year..stay healthy and have fun...🤙💚

[@JesterHellsingborg]

And the clicking is the diselpump....

[@FromShetoMe]

This was a nice treat to wake up to. 2 Slim videos. Curious how much power your propane heater would have used.

[@SlimPotatohead]

Excellent question. I was going to compare in a later video however here's what I have so far. My propane furnace averages around 31 Watts when running. Assuming it will shut off when at temp, and start up again when cold. It would be fair to say in cold weather is would actually average 15 watts an hour for 15 hours. That's 225 watts. The diesel would use 130 watts (or maybe less), so in this case the diesel uses less power. One solution for me therefore is just seek out a new power efficient propane furnace and not bother with another fuel type of heater! Thanks! SP

[@nejdro1]

@@SlimPotatohead The quality European heaters, which are similar to the oil fired units, are available as propane fired. Of course , they are several times more expensive.

[@bobham919]

@@SlimPotatohead what power does the propane furnace use that is not the fan. i would think the only power is the fan

[@PAfarmboy]

@@SlimPotatohead I can see how the propane furnace fan might use more electricity. Do you have any idea of the fuel cost comparison between diesel and propane per heating hour? It's easy to measure the diesel level but difficult for the propane unless you went by weight.

[@burtvincent1278]

Thank you. I have a motor home but want to save money on a long trip and use some heating device like this to allow sleeping in my pickups capped bed. I am still looking for the right one after watching this.

[@totherevolution]

Great video. TWO in one morning. Thank you.

[@echomoon3381]

I was so excited to see a post from you thst I clicked on the 2nd video first. Then had to watch #1 and of course #2 over again. LOL You tickle the heck out me me with your 'determination' to work out the puzzles of why and why not! PLEASE, what are the blue booties that your wearing! I would so like a pair of them.

[@WhatsUpWithSheila]

All in all.... yes you had to put a little work into it and it does have a clicking sound BUT... to have something that will keep you warm at night for 15 hours in an energy and fuel efficient way... does actually sound like a small *win* to me : )

[@bostonpicker6890]

“...like living inside a giant pacemaker...” 🤣🤣 Thanks for your efforts and diligence in seeing this through and posting your thoughts. I’ve wondered about the sound and scent accompanying diesel heaters. Happy New Year!

[@ruthanderson1758]

Have you thought about some sort of insulated little "house" to cover the heater - it might minimize some of the tick-tick-tick noise it makes.

[@williamslyer318]

A housing would likely also keep snow off of the unit instead of an umbrella,and that umbrella plan still worked well for you. Great informative video, and nice work.

[@james10739]

Ya I was thinking it's just the fuel pump so you could probably just wrap it in Insulation and quiet it down and I'd be surprised if they don't make another pump that is quieter

[@jamesevans164]

I enjoy your channel 'Slim'. I have a small Caravan I am rebuilding so I have got a lot of great advice form you. Heat is my problem in the Outback of Australia but it does get cold through the evening. Lols but no snow. Which brings me to write I enjoy the beautiful areas where you Camp. I have Subscribed and Bell. Keep up the great work.

[@christopheralanfields]

If you connect, the air inlet, to the trailer, you can, run the heater, on low and get, the diesel usage, down to, about 1 gallon, to 1.25 gallons, for 24 hours.

[@PUTDEVICE]

Thought about it. a small disc he can put in the window with socket for the hose so the air cycles. then you do not need to heat cold air.

[@nismo4x4n]

not only that but you wouldn't get the diesel exhaust smell

[@garypowers6991]

True, he would be heating the return air from his camper and not external air which would be much colder saving fuel if the temperature inside camper was monitored

[@novanut1964]

i had the same thots instead of heating the cold outside air thanks

[@Nerd3927]

I have quite a bit of experience with these excellent heaters, but I will refrain from any remarks that could help you. Just took the video as entertainment, and thank you very much for posting!

[@mikesmith1550]

Without neighbors, I might try putting a large piece of rigid foam board between the trailer and that fuel pump to reflect the sound away. If I was your neighbor I would object to unnecessary loud music, but not the sounds of trying to stay warm...it's just a necessity that can't be denied. Keep on camping I'm freezing in SoCal at 60F today!

[@volvo09]

Nice, you have it dialed in! I'm happy the solar can replenish the battery on a cloudy day too. A good option to have on those cold trips, infinetely better than those portable propane heaters.

[@bradmiller9993]

My own 'experiment' reflects your experiences exactly. I fitted one of these to my teardrop camper and came to pretty much the same conclusions......If you're good at 'tinkering' and understand the risks, I think these can be recommended. I now keep mine in a modified toolbox which keeps the fuel line and exhaust pipe separated and running in two different directions. Good video! I haven't been brave enough to try sub zero camping yet though! One note: I found that mounting the fuel pump to the toolbox and keeping it isolated from the camper makes the annoying 'ticking' sound down to an acceptable level. YMMV.

[@grannieannie1371]

Yeah I was wondering whether mounting it in a better case would help. I'm sure that flimsy case would do nothing and may even make it louder.

[@Tuckerclan]

One thing you didn't mention was if the heat was drier and if there was condensation inside your trailer after the full night use. Thanks for another wonderful video. Stay safe and take care, my friend.

[@SlimPotatohead]

Since I was cooking in the trailer, that wouldn't be a fair comparison. Perhaps when I use my Coleman I can try this. Thanks! SP

[@MrKSOrloff]

Hi Slim. Regarding the sound from the fuel pump - try removing it from the mounting brackets. So it only hangs in the tension of the fuel hoses. I believe this will lower the sound. Happy New year !

[@rolliebca]

Great review videos SP. Now you need to silence that fuel pump! There are great YT videos on how to do it. I can hardly wait to see you bring out and use the Fat 50 rocket stove again. Such a great design and build series you did on it. Needs no power and isolates the combustion from the living space so you don't have to open windows when it's minus 30 C. You have done 4 hour burns using pellets, and you even cook on it while it boils water for coffee! WOW - now that's impressive! Now all I'd want is a longer burn time, and no constant need of tending regular wood fuel. I've been researching Batch Box Rocket Mass Heaters and encapsulated phase change materials (ePCM) for high latent heat storage for use in applications that don't have space or capacity for the weight of thermal mass storage. Man 2020 was a crappy year in many respects, but the potential for making things better are phenomenal. Love your channel Slim and can hardly wait for your next video. Best wishes for the new year!

[@threedogsandacamper503]

“Like living in a giant pacemaker.” LOL

[@veeelle4885]

"Like Benny and the Jets." :D

[@skiphamblin2185]

Slim, thanks for sharing, great info, but I can not help but think that there is something in the fan that makes that noise, however, it may also be the fuel pump. All your videos are great and thanks again.

[@djbe7850]

The 12v on the jackery is on a timer, my 12v fridge kept turning off and the jackery was the culprit

[@jeffreyallen1290]

I have a Jackery 500 and I am not happy with it.

[@stellarproductions8888]

@@jeffreyallen1290 Yeah, I looked up the top model that is possibly capable of running a home refrigerator during a power outage, for how long, I couldn't tell you. Cause when I saw the price tag, 1000 dollars for a battery pack, I was horified. So I bought a 1000 dollar generator capable of producing far more power then these power packs. Yes its noisy, but at least I feel I am getting my money's worth. 1000 dollars for a battery that can only put out 500 watts of power, and may only last an hour on a fridge for all I know, is not what I call logical.

[@Utah_Mike]

@@stellarproductions8888 agree.

[@james10739]

@@stellarproductions8888 I believe the $1000 one is a 1000wh battery and a 1000w inverter I mean with losses you can probably only get between 800 and 900 watt hours but just for a backup of things like a fridge and larger appliances or just for a long time without solar then a generator is obviously a better solution but the jackery is ment for another customer with the ability to for some backup in an emergency

[@atak135]

@@james10739 these battery packs are great for smaller uses, phones, laptops, portable electronics but powering RVs???? I prefer a really good yeti ice chest over electric. Also I have a backup lithium ion battery to draw from.