Can We Forge Titanium into Ronin's Sword ?

Forging Ronin's "Collapsible" Sword out of Titanium. Thanks to Scopely for sponsoring - Download MARVEL Strike Force on iOS & Android and battle in the MARVEL universe here: pixly.go2cloud.org/SH31K . Avengers Infinity War, Avengers End Game and the Disney plus show Hawkeye all feature Ronin's sword with Jeremy Renner wielding it. We forge the blade from titanium and hot punch the slots. The titanium blade is then filed and ground on a 2 x 72" sander. We also forge the aluminum tsuba or guard. The handle is made from Aluminum on a CNC milling machine and then cleaned up by hand. All of the aluminum parts of anodized. So we show how to forge titanium, how to forge aluminum and how to anodize aluminum. Hell even Deadpool and Wolverine and Kate Bishop show up to assist Hawkeye AKA Clint Barton Aka Jeremy Renner on this Marvel adventure.
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[@ThatWorks]

Download MARVEL Strike Force on iOS & Android and battle in the MARVEL universe here: pixly.go2cloud.org/SH31K . Thanks for watching! What should we make next ??

[@jordanezell5132]

Will you please try to make a balisong sword?

[@grahck4391]

Awesome job! I'd love to see you guys try the kurgen's sword from the first highlander movie.

[@thecosmicknowingknowing3099]

You guy's FN ROCK.......BOIIII. PERIOD POINT BLANK, OOPS BAD HUMOR ON MY PART.....

[@Paradox-vk9fe]

Awesome work still hoping for the Katan from the original highlander movie

[@BlackStarZero19]

Do a historical build next like a tetsu-ken. The testu-ken is basically a truncheon shaped like a wakizashi and it has no sharp edges.

[@schmucatellischmucatelli1982]

The two of you are what got me watching Man at Arms. I can't watch it without you in it. Your builds are so much better and you show alot of the work that goes into the builds. Keep up the work.

[@ThatWorks]

Thank you so much! That means a lot to us!

[@0zux45]

It's the same for me!

[@JimIBobIJones]

Have they left the show over at AME? Haven't seen either of them in the new Man at Arms videos and is a real shame!

[@Nukem962001]

Same for me

[@knallpistolen]

same here

[@TimothyDyck]

Oh man! You made it out of TITANIUM!!! Thats awesome! One time, along time ago, I thought about doing a sword out of titanium but decided cautiously see how a knife went before jumping into the sword. I stopped at the knife cause that is no JOKE! Keep the forge lit!

[@ThatWorks]

Yea it sucks to finish. Fun to forge, but no fun at all on the grinder.

[@Slum1776]

Soon as I saw titanium I immediately thought I wonder if Timothy Dyck has seen this lol

[@MrZetor]

@@ThatWorks "Fun to forge" - Utter bulls*it! Forget the idiotic CP grades and try forging at least Gr5. Not fun at all!

[@bmxriderforlife1234]

@@MrZetor ......certain grades of titanium are just no fun to work with in Any way shape or form.

[@Robenbuilds]

From an actual ingot into a sword, now that's really cool!

[@ThatWorks]

Yea when that bar of Ti showed up I was like...Neat! This will be fun.

[@rodyhmar8034]

Tamahagane is cooler😎

[@mcshortking3632]

@@ThatWorks n

[@StrayWolfForge]

The passion that the team has for bladesmithing really shines through in the final product. The level of skill and attention to detail on display is awsome to watch. Thanks for another great video.

[@ThatWorks]

Thank you Eli! The final 10% of the finishing can really make or break a project

[@madrrio]

27:28, I SAW THAT... I SAW IT!!

[@ThatWorks]

Retractable !

[@madrrio]

@@ThatWorks HAHAHA!!🤫

[@thelonewolf3515]

i love to watch Ilya forge something. Watched the Episode "Forged in Fire" where he won with his amazing shield. Stunning. Keep up the awesome stuff you do!!!

[@ThatWorks]

He doesn’t back down from a challenge that’s for sure!

[@ZeroSeriesMMX]

I love CNCed aluminum, myself, though I'm beginning to imagine how Hawkeye's sword would feel, if the handle were triple-butted aluminum. 😄

[@ThatWorks]

Its neat what you can do with it and how fast you can do it!

[@FeuerToifel]

(possibly spoilers) if i remember right, even in the hawkeye series you first see the sword in a scabbard. and if i also remember, the retraction works not only in lenght, but also width, so it actually can go inside the handle. but having it as a properly made solid piece definitly is better! i think they did the retraction thing in the series so the guy who took it home first could do so more easily.

[@chaos_omega]

They should have just given him a longer coat, would have been cheaper.

[@ThatWorks]

Its like they haven't seen Highlander or something.

[@DivyanshusCreation]

@@chaos_omega i have made Retractable one 😉 You can check it out

[@bbforgeandleathercompany9228]

Nice job guys! I was committed do a knife out of a titanium rod that was removed from the guys leg recently. This gave me some good ideas of how to go about it...along with the advice of Master Schwarzer! Keep it up

[@katsumiskytower8714]

thats really cool, I have a 440 stainless steel plate in my hip that I would LOVE to make a knife out of someday :)

[@iansmith8944]

Make sure you know exactly the grade of titanium you have as each can have very different properties. It’s not a great idea to forge titanium since titanium dioxide is absorbed deep into the metal and weakens it. Would be a cool piece just to have but extremely unpractical.

[@ThatWorks]

Steve is the man! How did it turn out?

[@craigwiess1656]

How did you get the rod? Hospital wouldn't let me keep the titanium from my shoulder replacement. Was wanting to make a jockey shifter for my bike put of it, 7 more years before they replace the shoulder again.

[@katsumiskytower8714]

@@craigwiess1656 its still inside me, im not sure how im going to keep it, i might have to steal it idk lol

[@Zappygunshot]

TIL titanium scale turns green. A really nice quirk that makes it easily visible that you're working with a totally different material, even if it's white when hot and grey when cold like almost all other metals.

[@youngiroh5011]

100% i will be turning an old band saw into a bench filer..... that is the coolest custom tool idea i have seen in i dont even know how long! you guys are awesome

[@ThatWorks]

There are butterfly filers available out there. I do understand the drive to want to make your own though. Ive had the same feeling of making a hand sanding assistant.

[@RuthlessMojo]

Every time there's a titanium build, I can mentally picture some grinding belt salesman greedily rubbing his hands together with a big grin on his face.

[@ZekeAxel]

This is unlisted, yet I somehow found it by checking your channel page? Great build.

[@ZekeAxel]

@National Socialism I saw a different video and thought of That Works, as I went to check the channel, this was top of the playlist.

[@ZeroSeriesMMX]

The bell icon would be your best friend regarding that, my friend.

[@ZekeAxel]

@@ZeroSeriesMMX For literally finding it before it was public? No bell does that

[@ThatWorks]

sneaky !

[@benlupkin8659]

So happy I found this channel. You two were the best part of man at arms and I'm glad you stuck together to do a new channel

[@MR-il9me]

You guys do awesome work!!Ilya’s skill forging out the tip on the power hammer and Matt’s grinding skills!! Thanks guys

[@ThatWorks]

Thank you!

[@BobbylightRCE]

16:36 I said the same thing. If the sword was retractable it wouldn’t made any sense of Clint carrying it like that. I think it was a dumb idea for the Hawkeye show to retract so the swordsman could be able to steal it.

[@andrewli6606]

I commented on a YT video that I thought it being made retractable was kind of stupid, and a bunch of people flamed me, saying I shouldn't question fiction. I pointed out that it didn't retract in Endgame as well. Now I don't think that makes the entire show bad; I think it's the best D+ Marvel show imo. How can we praise Iron Man's intricate and well designed armors if we can't point out and criticize this dumb feature of the sword?

[@ThatWorks]

@@andrewli6606 Yea...I see your point. It's all good to me. Just doesnt seem to have been planned out to retract at first.

[@roryt8402]

the handle looked WAY cooler with the machine tooling marks left on it, smooth up where its held of course but it really did look better with all that minute detailing on it

[@ThatWorks]

I agree. I almost left it as is. I just didnt want people to think I half assed it.

[@xelthos2051]

Just found out today that yall were thankfully still doing videos over here, Man At Arms was never as good without yall, so glad to be able to watch you're quality videos.

[@onigiri2925]

Nicely done. I've been following your works for a while now and you guys are just amazing. Really. This specific work you do and the way you present it in these videos, it is just incredible. Just a big THANK YOU to you guys, that you do this awesome work. I am grateful for that!

[@jaredodell6768]

Great work Ilya always does amazing work on the fordge I've learned so much from watching your channel

[@bulletinmyleg]

You guys are absolutely Masters of your craft.

[@ThatWorks]

We are slowly getting there :D Thank you!

[@piratekingmax8722]

Amazing work! It's so cool to see you guys take on challenges like this.

[@bulbouskiwicat9608]

If anyone was wondering, all of those divots and cut outs are to make the sword lighter while still maintaining stability. Also to make it look cool.

[@nipulkradmsinatagras8293]

*Gotta ❤ Ilya's craftsmanship & dedication.*

[@ThatWorks]

He is truly good at what he does

[@raafatosman8350]

Every blade you are making is a piece of art. I want to request Ichigo's bankai blade from bleach since the last arc is coming in October this year.

[@ThatWorks]

It is time we do something from bleach

[@brettkoran5532]

I second the request for a sword from Bleach! Just please not Nozarashi (Kenpachi's blade)- I would be sad to see you guys put in the work to make a katana just to bludgeon it against a lot of stuff to make it authentic to the character (even tho Kenny himself is awesome) lol

[@jujijime]

This music makes me feel like I’m in the middle of an Ocean’s 11, 12,13 heist… or my team is in the finals and we’re overcoming a Goliath contender in a tearfully heartwarming manner…. learning life lessons along the way.

[@Ahmed_oldisgold]

That works team are so true to their work,passion and the artwork itself and share lot of knowledge about the build. It great to see both matt and ileya(extremely talented duo) keep doing what you do the best.

[@dogmaticpyrrhonist543]

OK, first comment from me. I love the very first showing of titanium, where it is visually explained why no-one actually makes swords or knives out of titanium. F-ing brilliant. Also, someone was incredibly concerned about mass to make cut outs in a titanium blade. It's much bulkier than a sword should be, but I'd wager it's still lighter. Background on Aluminium Oxide, aka Aluminum Oxide. It IS very hard and durable. Anyone with Al frame windows can probably attest though, that a thin coloured coating is no where near indestructable. Much more resilient than plain Al though. But, doped version (aka Al Oxide with impurities of various types) have common names as crystals, like ruby, emerald etc. Now, the real challenge is "forging" Tungsten. :)

[@ThatWorks]

Ive thought about it....There are ways, but why.

[@dogmaticpyrrhonist543]

@@ThatWorks yeah, it would be pretty awful. It would snap at the first sign of any impact. And, at three times heavier than iron, it would be horrible to use. At best, a joke weapon. At worst, a self imposed death sentence.

[@andrewspencer7804]

@@ThatWorks I wonder if tungsten might be useful as the head of a striking weapon rather than a blade? That concentrated mass would work in its favour..?

[@AndreiH1605]

​@@andrewspencer7804 tungsten steel war hammer FTW

[@DjMakurimaru]

Macuatl or Aztec machete... What is the highest technology varient you can make using the best material for each part? Why would monosteel weapons even work in today's world? I do believe something like exchangeable blades is better. I actually head an ancient martial arts organization and there were ideas like these going bach to turn of 19tg century in Asia and Europe. Pirates may have mastered special weapons. Design and it's funny that my org has connections to both European and Asian piracy going back. Most pirates and Viking type people began as fisherman and farmers forced to pay superior warlords demanding tribute. Survival shaped them into something stronger by necessity.

[@illCMAC]

Absolutely gorgeous build. Cannot wait for the next!

[@ThatWorks]

Thank you illmac!

[@DivyanshusCreation]

I have a retractable one,you may like it, please check ☺️

[@ThePeacefulPenguin]

Lots of cool video shots in this one, great video as always!

[@ThatWorks]

Thanks Felix. We tried a bunch of new stuff and will continue to do so!

[@daltiejul]

Awesome, I haven't even finished the video, but very pleased that the slots were punched like that I was worried the slots were gonna be cut in with a cnc or plasma something like that. I like to see as much forging and hot cutting for whatever reason I just like to see those techniques way more than just utilizing technology!!

[@Citizen13]

Congrats on y’all’s first Marvel build! Looking forward to the next one. When Black Knight eventually comes out, y’all gotta tackle that one!

[@ThatWorks]

That might not be a bad idea.

[@jacksonsabre4606]

@@ThatWorks or even the Necrosword from Thor: Love and Thunder

[@No_Way_NO_WAY]

I was taught in my practical training during my university time as mechanical engineer, that you only tap one side of 2 parts you want to connect via screws. the other side from which you screw it in, is just a through hole of the appropriate size of the screw. Dont think it makes much of a diffference in your build, but you might save some time while taping.

[@ThatWorks]

in some cases that may be true but in this one I had to have screws coming from both sides to create the right look.

[@No_Way_NO_WAY]

@@ThatWorks makes sense. thx for the reply.

[@copitzkymichael3313]

It seems fortuitous that I've seen this post

[@masoudahmad4348]

Finally i have been waiting the fire forge to be Lit, and the sound of you hammer and grinder on work

[@andrewwilliams3207]

Love these guys man. Every episode is a treat. Commenting to support that algorithm!

[@699hazard]

I absolutely loved this build. I was kinda expecting to see a "Ronin/Clint Barton signature on the tang. The end stunts and scenes were the best

[@DivyanshusCreation]

I have a same surprise but with a twist in my chanel, please check ☺️

[@dan-crum]

This actually looks better than the one in the show! Great job guys!

[@ThatWorks]

A couple of people told us that when they saw it in person. TY!

[@rielbercasio9490]

I think that man at arms subscribers are still not aware of this chanel...you guys deserve more than 1M subs..

[@suzanneaufang4976]

Fantastic build!!!! Well worth the wait!!!!

[@ThatWorks]

Thank you Suz!

[@TheNotoriousCheeto]

Ah... did the sword break? During the testing phase, when Matt gets the sword the second time, starting at 27:25 to about 27:30. He swings at some water bottles, and it looks like you can see the blade if you pause it before the strike. But in the follow-through, it looks like there is no blade. In fact, it looks like the tsuba is gone too. Like the tang snapped in the hilt and everything above his hands went flying.

[@ThatWorks]

Nah it just retracted.

[@szombatimarcell9961]

Yeah I rewatched it like 5 times to make sure.

[@DivyanshusCreation]

@@ThatWorks retractable!!!? yes it's possible 😁 Check my one 😉

[@jimcorbett3764]

The amount of skill that went into this build, both old and new school, is impressive. Good job!

[@ThatWorks]

Thank you! It took the whole team!

[@Vibranium_man]

@@ThatWorks this might be difficult but can you make a captain america shield based on the falcon and the winter soldier show made of titanium?

[@ThatWorks]

@@Vibranium_man ehhh. So many people have done it. Maybe though.

[@rogerlacaille3148]

Beautiful work Guys!!

[@stephenjohnson6841]

Awesome build and video! Thanks for sharing!

[@manythingslefttobuild]

Nice job, always interesting to see you work with titanium. Looking forward to something from Elden ring.

[@ThatWorks]

That game is over the top! Like all the cool weapons smashed into one game.

[@Valkera17]

Man I think Clint Barton himself would be very proud of this. Job well done and it looks so freaking badass

[@ThatWorks]

Thanks Kurgl !

[@asvarien]

Some of the machine marks left on the hilt looked great, they looked like printed circuits and added an extra high tech appearance.

[@geoffrey3668]

Awesome video! As much educational than fun to watch!

[@sparkerov]

27:28 did you actually make it retractable 😆. Nice work guys!

[@DivyanshusCreation]

I have 😉, please check ☺️

[@kenschortgenjr7540]

I would love to see a showdown on Forged in Fire where one of y'all goes head to head with Ben Abbot over forging this sword with the parameters you had to follow. (Although being able to machine shop the handle would likely be not possible).

[@Olordrin]

Closest you'll probably get is that Ilya was on an episode of Forged in Fire, back a few years.

[@abrenos3744]

if there ever was any doubt that Ilya is the best, this sword wouldn't have worked for many masters out there, exceptional skills, you make the impossible look easy,.

[@ThatWorks]

He often does doesn't he.

[@narcisosalas1180]

Absolutely stunning work! Truly inspiring

[@ThatWorks]

Thank you Narciso!

[@seanedge2003]

Great work! Quick question, did you have to heat treat the titanium blade in the same way you would for a steal blade? Or does titanium not need heat treating?

[@DopetheWind]

Titanium is often "aged". Sort of similar to quenching steel, titanium is heat soaked in a furnace for a precisely determined amount of time (referred to as "in solution"), then quenched in a prescribed fluid. Immediately after quench, the part is "aged" by maintaining temperature for extended periods of time (2-24hrs) at a lower, but still very high temperature, then left to cool as slow as possible. Also unlike steel, the times, and temps of each process varies drastically based on alloy.

[@ThatWorks]

@@DopetheWind yea what he said

[@jeffforbess6802]

How was it weighted? It looked a little cumbersome in the hand, with that large handle. Do the two metals interact? Does titanium oxidize?

[@leewallser3202]

You guys have been massively inspiring to me! I'm 31 and seriously considering changing careers from barber to blacksmith. There is a very high regarded college and course in my area and I'm thinking about enrolling, cutting hair in my downtime to keep myself financially secure and eventually transitioning to full time blacksmith when my skills are where they need to be and the work starts coming my way! Do you guys think I should do it?

[@ThatWorks]

I would certainly start as a hobby and see where it takes you. It’s one hell of an investment to make before knowing if you are any good at it…

[@nerdwithahammer8751]

@@ThatWorks very fair comment. The plan is to learn while still working as a barber and see where I'm at a few years down the line

[@MissionSilo]

If I remember correctly barbers also used to be blacksmiths and dentists. Also veterinarians. Stick with being a barber then add to it as you go along

[@r4dwolf]

That is just amazing work! Titanium is difficult to work with, but you guys sure made it look easy.

[@brianfalls5038]

Great job on the sword guys! Very impressive to say the least!!

[@marco19981234]

Amazing work! For your next build, could you guys do any big sword from Elden Ring please? That would be very nice!

[@ThatWorks]

That game is beautiful isnt it.

[@Mrlonefighter]

the new intro was pretty sick! How much does 1kg of Titanium bar actually cost? Loved all the little Marvel stuff as well

[@TheKiltedYaksman1]

$325 on Ebay.

[@ThatWorks]

I got it for $150

[@MrPinkfarts]

Another great video. That looked super tricky too but, came out freakin epic

[@ThatWorks]

Thanks brother!

[@dominiclacroix9489]

Matt's grind work is out of this woooorld. Damn thats beautiful work

[@chewyakarieckenicholas6049]

Great looking blade I only have one question about the handle it was pretty blocked how comfortable was it to weld

[@ThatWorks]

It wasn't incredibly comfortable when you hit things. Not really because of it's shape but because its solid metal. No give.

[@mikemann1494]

This is amazing! Any idea what the final weight on the sword is? It has to be remarkably light, I would think.

[@MrZetor]

@Mike Mann It sure as F was light after @27:28!

[@mrkiky]

Well considering it has a jumbo aluminum handle, it's probably not overly light. Aluminum may be light compared to steel, but compared to usual handle materials like wood, it's heavy.

[@mahmudulhprince7987]

I just finished the previous video and this popped up, a blessing

[@ThatWorks]

What timing !

[@chrismac3432]

LOVE the Marvel/That Works opening

[@ThatWorks]

Yea I thought that was a fun touch!

[@RovalisGTO]

Rad! Did this feel any different as a finished product compared to a comparable(ish?) sword given the different materials used?

[@ThatWorks]

It was lighter. Thats about it.

[@isaackim7675]

How about a Star Wars build? Like the gaffdi stick the Tusken use?

[@ThatWorks]

It is possible!

[@isaackim7675]

@@ThatWorks thankfully there’s now a reference on how to make it

[@ThatWorks]

@@isaackim7675 that is indeed true

[@user-mb9ev5tk4e]

Great work! Never knew it was possible to make a sword out of titanium

[@whatTheFup]

A blooper reel at the end? You spoil us xD more of this pls

[@ThatWorks]

check out this channel for more content like that kzbin.info

[@pegcitykid]

Great work on this sword. You guys should make Hiemdal's sword at some point

[@ThatWorks]

We are actually friends with the guys that made the one for the movie. That's why we have stayed away from it.

[@pegcitykid]

@@ThatWorks that’s fair. And a shame lol

[@amithvarmajampana972]

27:27 the sword was broken i saw it

[@ThatWorks]

Just retracted !

[@AcridMonkeysphere]

@@ThatWorks 🤣 Legendary reply, love watching you guys work. Great vid

[@skoitch]

The “Slot Shaming” comment earned my 👍🏻

[@0megaJB]

You guys make it look so effortless, even though it's far from that.

[@kakashi4964]

Whoooo yeah baby I’ve been waiting for this since the teasers

[@kakashi4964]

I thought it was amazing, you never fail to keep me entertained.

[@thefamily_ak1863]

well done again , fellas love the work

[@ThatWorks]

THank you AK

[@fredemmanueltatyoliveira3831]

Vous êtes des pro ! La fin est tellement drôle 🤣

[@masterk5372]

This is awesome good work man 👏👏👏👍👍👍👍

[@TimedRevolver]

I think Clint converted it into a retracting blade after he gave up the Ronin name so he could hide the thing easier. After all, he never intended to use it or that Ronin suit ever again. He wouldn't care about potential retained functionality. Until it got stolen, it was probably in a closet somewhere in the Avenger's Compound, likely awaiting someone to destroy it.

[@MrPeter924]

Awesome great Sword working

[@ThatWorks]

Thank you Peter!

[@alex_stonehenge]

A very great futuristic build! 😃

[@davemckinney6555]

Just another day at the office for Ilya... they said challenge, but he's not feeling it at all.

[@Scott_C]

Great Build!

[@OG1]

Very cool! Can't wait to see how the Titanium works.

[@BeardedDanishViking]

Not well. They made Blade's sword some years ago, and Ilya explained why titanium is a subpar sword material.

[@OG1]

@@BeardedDanishViking Thank you. I have seen Ti dive knives online but this my first time seeing a sword ever.

[@ThatWorks]

There are alloys that do a decent job but pure doesnt hold the best edge for cutting/slicing.

[@jameswhatsit]

Can you make a steel edged/titanium spined sword, or do the materials not weld?

[@ThatWorks]

@@jameswhatsit there are ways. Possibly even with a mechanical bond not a weld

[@alexbecket7140]

Awesome video! Cheers!

[@thesuperzfamilyvlog6607]

Those sparks are so satisfying.

[@ThatWorks]

I tell you what...While you are working on it...It gets old pretty fast. Like staring into a lightbulb all day.

[@iainburns4493]

The chatter on the cnc mill looked like it was made by this old Tony 🤣

[@jasonjustice7198]

that reciprocating file is genius

[@ashleymillington7360]

You definitely made the right choice with making it one solid piece rather then retractable. Also this weapon is an amazing feat of technical skill, you guys are the best! Is there nothing you can’t do?

[@fiercedeity9955]

27:32 I thought for a second that you were about to ruin that poor tree's day

[@meme__salad]

10:10 that's actually genius, now I gotta build one of those

[@revtwilight9308]

from my limited knowledge of what ive heard and read of titanium I cant even imagine the probably insane number of hours it must have taken to file and grind that sword

[@atomicimota7512]

Loved the Wolverine mask 🤣

[@fresheeee]

Simply Awesome

[@andyharbin411]

That’s awesome. It’s what I was waiting for was the fun at the end. What’s the sense in making something cool if you can’t play with it. Good for y’all

[@ThatWorks]

Thanks! Yea we had some extra fun filming the demo this time. More of a story.

[@MagiRaz]

All that powdery stuff coming off the metal is scary, wtf is that? Also, at 27:29 where the hell did the sword blade GO?!

[@iansmith8944]

Titanium is very reactive. It’s titanium oxide. Most common in any white paint or pigment. Some white foods even use it as dye.

[@jeffhoward1000]

Hey Matt that sword looks wonderful. Ilya again you knocked it out of the park with your forging I wish I could get a blade from y’all but you are way out of my price range

[@ThatWorks]

We make some budget pieces a few times a year. Keep an eye out on thatworks.shop

[@thomasbrack9895]

Awesome job!

[@pavelvalis7023]

A titanium sword is pretty rare build! Great job!

[@ovidiuciuparu6421]

Awesome! Good job!

[@ebreshea]

congrats on the sponsorship!

[@ThatWorks]

ty

[@CraigMacdonaldAeon]

Those machine marks on the handle looked amazing. If you weren't doing a recreation, they would have enhanced the end design.

[@ThatWorks]

That's exactly how we felt about it. We will have to do another one that is of our own design.