Can we make ODST Armor | Is it possible?

[@Installation00]

New Patreon Page has gone live to support the development of real ODST Armor along side the work we're doing on Project: MJOLNIR as well! www.patreon.com/TheMaterialsGroup Gofundme for Project: MJOLNIR is also still live: gofund.me/44ec666e

[@raycreekentertainment9345]

Wouldn’t be BDA (Battle Dress Armor) instead of BDU

[@brandonguidry2929]

I'd love to buy a mark V variant of helmet how much would you consider building one for

[@jonmosin8820]

The reason i think ODST is a more common cosplay is that they are human. Not a supersoldier, a human in armor struggling against nearly insurmountable odds. A hero to aspire to be, not a superhero to be in awe of. Im Much more likely to buy an odst kit.

[@codybgamin]

That's a very good reason that I fully agree with. For me personally, what I like about it as a cosplayer is 1) it's not as basic as Marine armor, but isn't as complex as MJOLNIR armor (there are more pieces than Marine armor, but they're easier to work with than Spartan armor); and 2) for me personally, it feels more realistic and practical than the different Spartan armor permutations, which is an attractive attribute about it. You can see clear functionality in the armor parts of some of the members of Alpha-Nine (Romeo is a good example - as a sniper, his helmet has a special vision attachment sort of like those flip-down binoculars on clone trooper helmets, and in terms of his shoulders, his left shoulder is a larger plate that gives him more protection when he's lining up his shots while his right shoulder is completely missing, so it doesn't interfere with his ability to aim), so a character like Romeo, the sniper of his squad, actually has equipment that looks like it was designed for use by a sniper. A lot of the Spartan armor permutation descriptions are sort of "Just take my word for it" descriptions in terms of their functionality, even if they don't look practical in the slightest (out of game, we all know that they're just there for visual diversity and player choice in customizing their character).

[@MarcusWolfWanders]

that is exactly the reason I've always loved ODSTs. They're just normal military dudes, they're not augmented in any way aside from the suits they wear. They're the elite of the elite in humanity's armed forces branches, and the only reason spartans are better is because of their augs.

[@Slender_Man_186]

@@codybgamin I kinda disagree when it comes to your take about Spartan armor, CQB has the wide shoulders, T visor, and a knife on the chest, EOD has a bulkier chest and shoulders with neck guards built into the helmet, EVA has the dome like visor of a space suit, at least for Halo 3’s armors I could see how they fit. Well, with the exception of Security, that looks like a fighter pilot helmet.

[@GentlemensClubHolyEdition]

Also they just look so much cooler tbh

[@Zeoinx69]

This is one reason I always Liked ODSTs in Halo, and the rebellion star fighter pilots like Wedge Antilles in Star Wars vs the Spartan and Jedi. Far more obtainable for humans to aspire to be

[@jasonvanhart2405]

00 and Demolition Ranch, not a combo I was expecting, but I'm here for it.

[@gideonevans9717]

Absolutely same

[@superintendentvergil2091]

Right

[@dylonabubo7513]

Super unexpected 😂

[@Dash62g]

I suppose halo runs in the family

[@headazrd]

I can see it now, "Today on demolition ranch, we find out how bullet proof a super soldier is. Don't tell Mare."

[@kelvinth117]

it would be so awesome if you developed armor for demolition ranch to actually shoot at, for real life tests, and we get too see it as a colab where you visit demolition ranch explain the armor and Matt shoots it while explaining what type of ammo and guns he is using.

[@ODSTWend]

That would be kickass.

[@bentuovila5296]

You have any idea how expensive this gear is, son?

[@nicwalker882]

@@bentuovila5296 tell that to Demolition Ranch 😏

[@thekammunist6791]

It’d be great to see 00 put in lore accurate tech in that suit so we could see which systems would fail first

[@TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA]

@@thekammunist6791 the electronics and some of the passive support systems as they wont be able to withstand the high g shock of bullet strikes especially if the armor deforms enough under fire. as for the liquid armor stuff? it works sorta, but hasnt been tested on something thats moving or under extreme temp changes like a soldier fighting in a desert or jungle or artic

[@nweasels]

To be fair, no one ever said the ODST armor had to stop AP .50 BMG, but the idea you might be developing a trauma plate that can catch one and let the wearer survive is definitely neat.

[@jeaton1224]

The problem comes with not just stopping the bullet, but dispersing the energy that comes with something as massive as a .50 BMG. Even if we catch that round, best case scenario, the bullet still breaks your rib cage and turns your internal organs to essentially mush. Not to mention you’ll get knocked off your feet and get the wind knocked out of you. Effectively taking you out of the fight in just the same way as if it had killed you. That’s why we would need something more like black panther’s armor, instead of iron man’s, as cool as flight would be.

[@speed150mph]

@@jeaton1224 sounds like something that can be done. You need a layered system. Titanium outer plate for absorbing the brunt of the hit and large enough to spread it across a larger area, a compression pad or shock absorbing material which can compress to absorb the energy across the entire area of the plate placed between the titanium and infused Kevlar, and then you have the Kevlar itself which can absorb some. It might not be comfortable but it wouldn’t be debilitating.

[@mariastevens6406]

​@@speed150mph you clearly don't grasp the amount of energy that round delivers. It can literally bring down an airliner from the ground, if the round hits it.

[@victorbostitch2294]

@@speed150mph definitely possible. Ur correct with a layered system. Maybe a gel trauma pad would do the trick. There are .50 cal rated plates out there so we might be closer than people think

[@speed150mph]

@@mariastevens6406 I highly doubt that a single 50 cal round can take down an airliner. WW2 American fighter planes used 6 or more 50 cal machine guns to shoot down planes, and it usually required a few hits to take down something that was much smaller and with much less redundancy built in. In fact, the 50 cal was deemed to be on the low end of what was considered effective which is why planes started mounting 20 mm cannons. And that is why modern jet fighters use rotary cannons in the 20-30mm range with rates of fire measured in the thousands of rounds per minute.

[@gideonevans9717]

This! This is the armor I've always dreamed about having. Also this man is the super-genius of our age. I hope the government doesn't come for him. If you are to make an ODST helmet, go with Romeos design more room to put stuff.

[@WolfeSaber]

Unless you are a seven foot super soldier.

[@sixty9inety]

He’s not really that special. He’s a civilian. He has civilian information. The government doesn’t care about him

[@WolfeSaber]

@@sixty9inety Well, some time ago, GW hired a bunch of KZbin content creators for their Warhammer+ streaming service. Does the name Astartes right a bell?

[@TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA]

the gov will come to hire him not stop him, a armor innovation helps everyone

[@shred1894]

He's not a super-genius. All of this is pretty simple, just requires money, time, and connections. Anyone who worked with aerospace engineering or computer programming could do most of this stuff easy, they just don't have the incentive to do it. Installation 00 just happens to be a big fan of Halo while also having an engineering background and enough money/connections to be able to do this without much hassle.

[@arelyyna8478]

Can't wait for installation00 to be named the "forefather of power armour" or something like that

[@GrayderFox]

Well, someone has to make power armor. :P Why not him?

[@commandot-2787]

I can see the documentary in 40 years narrated by some British guy now

[@unrulybot1352]

@@GrayderFox someone's gotta do it. We all can't just sit and wait for one to be built.

[@laurencegoodacre8428]

@Unruly Bot 13 I agree however we are both probably sitting here, waiting 😅

[@unrulybot1352]

@@laurencegoodacre8428 yeah, you're right. I am sitting and waiting.

[@trickyphantom5117]

My favorite armor ever in any piece of media, I'm so happy to see you cover this

[@Matt_of_the_mountains]

Same, I'm actually more excited about this than the Mjolnir project. The other armor set I always really liked though is the Deep Eyes from the Final Fantasy movie.

[@AKlover]

The helmet would be the biggest problem, keeping the weight down.

[@Chrisspru]

odst armor has an internal passive exoskeleton with knee cushioning. this includes an articulated and cushioned neck piece which takes the helmets weight

[@AKlover]

@@Chrisspru I'd question the viability of skeletonizing around the neck of A combatant. The head needs to move freely. Likely the exact reason gorgets or shoulder pauldrons with elevated pieces to protect the neck are uncommon ......... and those items would not attach to the neck.

[@uwesca6263]

I think its difficult to make the helm in a way that you can look up. For the weight well: there are 2 types of helmet. Ballistic helmet and bumb (?) Helmets. Realisticly most of the damage are shrapnells and stones or so not bullets. So he could get away building a none ballistic helmet and then apply the same kevlar as for the suit (maybe a few more layers) so you could have a rather lightweight helmet that offers protection for the most likely wounds. I wonder if it has the same cooling mechanics as the suit.

[@Chrisspru]

@@uwesca6263 making a neck support that is jointed in a way that allows for looking up etc. is possible. it should have temperature control in all cases

[@AKlover]

@@uwesca6263 Halo's canon has space elevators which would mean they have material light and strong enough as armor to stop all the "Gas Diversion" ballistic weapons. Graphene in sheet form would seem the most obvious candidate as A Kevlar replacement and IIRC it also does even better than Kevlar versus heat. We can make graphene in A powder form relatively cheaply, once someone figures out A fabric making process for it they will be A billionaire practically overnight.

[@gunxsword5732]

Fast forward a few years and suddenly this man is officially supplying these as new armor systems to the armed forces.

[@UNSCPILOT]

Hopefully civilian variants for recreational use too, say a lighter soft armor bodysuit with some strategic bracing to protect from injuries and hard points for pockets and gear and a helmet with less armor that just protects against falls and falling objects but with the suite of enhanced vision systems, AR interface, communications, lights and ECT with some modularity to swap in what you want for a particular hobby, say for cycling I'd love a rear view camera and a heads up display so I don't need to check my phone for anything or rely on a tiny little handlebar or helmet mounted mirror. As profitable and beneficial as the military applications are the civilian applications are increadible too, it helps that I love Halo's design style and would love a Mark V(A or B) style helmet for regular use and not just cosplay

[@insertsomethingfuni2617]

@@UNSCPILOT Imagine trying to rob a house and there's a guy in ODST armor with a glock

[@sgtaveryjohnson3803]

But instead he pulls out a beam sword!

[@staple_boi]

I would walk around everywhere with my odst chest plate on 😂😂

[@cmykrgb1469]

Remember that anything the military uses will be sent to the lowest bidder. If he can do it, if he can build units that survive DOD torture tests, _and_ if he can keep the costs low enough for the military's liking, we won't be able to get it because he'll have to sign over all rights of sale and distribution to the DOD. Honestly, I would rather he completes the armors and then sells them to individuals instead of State or Government agencies.

[@isaacandrews6515]

To finish the helmet, all you left out is a ballistic pading layer inside to protect from the weight of the helmet on impact or general battlefield explosions leading to TBI, and a similar "light armor" layer you mentioned earlier to protect from external shrapnel or small arms. Very impressive and detailed video! Subscribing now. I like your research.

[@Zenlore6499]

That new night vision is WICKED! I love the look of it!

[@my9thaccount140]

It’s basically cheating. Near perfect visibility in pitch darkness, with FoF identification systems built in. Now all we need are literally wall hacks and never again will you be caught unawares if you’re wearing it. A horrifying prospect for anyone who has to go up against such a force.

[@connerforbis1466]

If anyone has any questions about the night vision 00 mentioned towards the end of the episode, I have extensive experience using the ENVG-Bs in the field (I was actually in the footage featured) please ask away! As always though, 00's analysis was pretty much spot on.

[@UNSCPILOT]

Awesome to see someone working on that tech already found this video, not a terribly deep question, but: What do you think of the parallels between Halo's VISR tech and the real world system you are working on? Is it just and interesting coincidence or do you think one inspired the other perhaps?

[@connerforbis1466]

@@UNSCPILOT Halo's depiction of the VISR definitely predates the I2 Fusion technology present in the ENVG-B, though it might be a stretch to say that Halo inspired the technology. Instead, it's actually just a really intuitive way to add objective relevant information to your field of view. With our real world tech, the I2 Fusion is simply a thermal outline derived from predefined temperature differentials overlayed on top of a standard White Phosphorus Image Intensifier display. This adds to the situational awareness of the soldier and allows them to rapidly identify objects in their environment likely to warrant attention. Something I'm surprised 00 didn't mention alongside the Hololens he uses for Project Mjolnir, is the US Army's own use of the Hololens and other AR assets. I'm not as familiar with the IVAS, the Army's application of the Hololens, but with the ENVG-Bs we also had AR Capability. By pairing a smartphone with ATAK (Android Tactical Assault Kit) with the NVGs, we were able to overlay friendly forces information and navigational data. It looked a little less like Halo and a bit more like Battlefield if you're familiar with that. In addition, the kits came with special night time optics that could pair directly to the ENVG-Bs and give a readout directly into our line of sight. So whereas 00 mentioned attaching a camera, we could use our optics both normally like a standard scope, or indirectly with video feed into our NVGs! All this situational awareness technology that exists in an ODSTs helmet not only already exists, I've seen it first hand.

[@jonathanpfeffer3716]

A few questions: Do they have ATAK integration yet? Heard that was on the table. How useful do you find that strange IR/NVG fusion line thing? Would you ever see that being more useful than either mode on its own? Is the increased weight that bad?

[@connerforbis1466]

@@jonathanpfeffer3716 ATAK integration with what exactly? If you're asking about the ENVG-Bs, then as I said, yes. It's just in the early stages. I found it very useful actually. The thermal overlay and AR elements were only visible in the right tube, so if at any point it was distracting or confusing because of the environment, you could just close your right eye and see raw Infrared. In addition to the outline, the Fusion could be a black hot or white hot, like more conventional systems. (it's CALLED black and white, but it's actually just light and dark orange) Nah, the weight wasn't too bad. After a certain point the weight doesn't really register on your neck. I found it to be more bearable at times than the PVS-14s because the weight of the batteries was in the battery pack on the back of the helmet instead of up front with the tube.

[@FriendlyHouseCentipede]

@@connerforbis1466 Actually I've always wondered about that, why is it that some Thermal systems use Green while others use white:black or even Orange? I think the first place I noticed it was ArmA 3, where certian vehicles, like the NATO Marshall (IFV) use Green thermals while other systems, such as CSAT's (China + Iran + a whole bunch of other non-western states) Vorona ATGM (Think a Konkors but carried by a single person) use Orange thermals

[@CJ_Welch]

I shall watch your continued progress with great interest and enthusiasm.

[@AJ_Sparten1337]

Realistic ODST armor would have to be 1/4 of an inch thick and would only need to stop armor piercing 30.06 and deflect all lower caliber rounds in order for it to be practical and worth the money to manufacture. Since we are not dropping individuals from orbit, then the paint/coating in the armor system wouldn't need to be a hear shield. It would instead need to be a thermal reducing paint (something similar to what Intermat Defense makes for vehicles) and the body suit would need to have a Cordura 1000 or 500 fabric to reduce the IR signature of the wearer. There would also need to be a small exoskeleton to redistribute the weight of the armor in order to retain mobility. Running with an additional 60 lbs. of armor and gear with another 40-120 lbs. backpack really slows you down. That is a current Green Beret loadout in terms of weight btw. DARPA already has a protype exo suit that looks very similar to the one seen in the Tom Cruise movie Edge of Tomorrow. They are also working with the U.S. Army to make a new combat suit that uses a much smaller version that not only doesn't require any electricity to operate(just physical movement), but also redistributes the weight allowing for faster running. The only real problem with making an ODST armor system is the cost. It would require tens of millions of dollars worth of research alone just to get a protype(without any of the fancy integrated electronics) and it would cost a few million dollars each just to produce. Until there is a cheaper way to refine and forge titanium and its alloys and composites, it is not going to happen for a long time.

[@MarioTheLiopleurodon]

The position sensor "SMART follower" in the mag is a genius idea. No clue why it isn't more common, as I had the same thought while bored at work one day this past summer - I even sketched out a rough design. We're quickly closing on Halo levels of tech and aside from a few key systems, most of the groundside warfare aspect is *extremely* doable. I can't wait until I get issued ODST battle armor instead of my standard flak & kevlar. Integrated NVDs would be a lot less of a hassle, 1 less thing to lose in the field

[@Installation00]

The idea came about as a consequence of my work on MJOLNIR. Full info on the particulars is on its way.

[@Turambar117]

Smart followers aren't more common in actual use for the same reason that nobody uses the optics you see on Amazon with laser range finders built-in and multiple reticles-- they're unreliable at this stage of their development.

[@MarioTheLiopleurodon]

@@Turambar117 True. Another big hassle is method of connecting to the onboard computer on the weapon. I suppose you could mount *everything* to the optic & slap it onto a pic rail, but the method of mags connecting is still an issue. USBs are finnicky enough without the heat of combat; plus dirt and mud can get in.

[@TheCaptainTrout]

Cost primarily, for a 'disposable' item that soldiers will go through. Why drum and other mechanically complex magazines are not used by militaries for the most part.

[@blitz-n-chipz361]

@@Installation00 I’ve had a similar idea for a idea for a mag counter. My best idea was a laser sensor in the bottom of the mag that measures the distance up to the bullets, then wirelessly send that to a microcontroller that calculates x distance = x bullets and spits it out on a small screen attached to the guns rail

[@robidius]

I'm down for the ODST stuff, was a fan for years and H3 ODST just hit the spot, been aching for an "ODST 2" "Spartans never die, they do it because they were born to, they're just MIA. ODSTs know they aren't coming home and do it anyway"

[@Flakeytie]

You are my Hero for starting to make a functional ODST armor!

[@jingle9691]

It's worth noting that whilst the hard armour plating may stop a bullet, the energy of the projectile still needs to be effectively disseminated and absorbed by the armour to prevent transfer to the wearer which would kill them. You could have several inches of titanium to stop a .50 but the energies transfered to the wearer would still cause serious if not immediately fatal injuries. You need to find a way to absorb the energy and disperse it safely away from the wearer.

[@Texas117]

That’s why your shields need to be on 😉

[@AngryProtoBoi]

ODST armor does not have the micro fusion reactor that Mjolnir armor is built to carry, so no shields for ODSTs.

[@Blah81150]

The reason NVGs display green is because the human eye can discern more shades of green than any other color so there's greater range of contrast.

[@larsmurdochkalsta8808]

The thermal control systems are also pretty common and accessable in racing

[@rayhatton7683]

Installation 00 once again you keeping Halo alive in many forms. Thank you.

[@lincolnpascual]

As a former 101st guy, I would totally enlist in Space Force if I can get some legit ODST armor. Having an entire uniform that either stops or decreases the likelihood of getting shot would be... well, it would be a complete game changer in the modern battlefield. Hell, you know the guys who would benefit the most from that tech? Recon guys. Having a full suite of surveillance and monitoring equipment, along with a fully enclosed and temperature regulated suit would allow them to go even further for longer, hampered only by the logistics of sustaining human life (food, sleep, hygiene, etc). I would be happy to volunteer for a field test of the gear when done.

[@theAlphaHybrid]

I highly recommend checking out the tracking point system and their firearms for further in-depth integration of enhanced targeting systems that already exist and would greatly benefit your projects

[@NinjaEnShort]

On a side note, Holosun has been showing a short range thermal optic at shotshow that allows for night and thermal vision overlayed on the transparent glass of the optic, which somewhat resembles what the ODST have access to in the helmet.

[@darkshardshoots]

I was sat at work this afternoon literally internally questioning this!

[@synthwavespartan2808]

Your breakdowns are top-notch.

[@jollygoodfellow3957]

Considering the heating element of thermoregulation, look into heat blankets. They use electric wires woven into a fabric to generate heat. You could weave that into the suit for the heat part.

[@73_65]

Another option would be to use the insulating properties of some of the materials that would be going into such a suit anyway as an advantage so less heat is lost simply by slowing down the cooling system as needed.

[@1Scimetar]

With the ammo counter, I know that the sensors and displays have been invented as I've seen a video of someone's modified Glock pistol that had the same ammo tracking capabilities as an M41 pulse rifle from Alien, including the ability to tell if there was a chambered round or not. An alternative for the radio tracking system on the magazine's follower could also be the addition of an electric potentiometer, where there's a strip of electro-conductive material that will vary on how much current is carried by it and a contact on the follower. This is basically the same technology in an analog radio's volume and frequency controls and could feed the information gathered into a computer that could calculate the rounds remaining based on that information. For transmitting this information into the soldier's armor, the gloves of the armor could be lined with electro-conductive plates that match up to the handle scales of the weapon in their hands, like when the plug for a pair of wired headphones is plugged into the appropriate socket, especially when the helmet will probably interface with a similar technology in the collar of the torso armor.

[@uwesca6263]

A fully working odst helmet is something i love to buy. What you did not mention was the hearing and communikation system of the helmet. Which would likely be similar to some peltor helmet and have microphones on the outside that turn up the noise you hear but are programmed in a way to silence louder noises. Also i thought that some digital nightvision and thermals projected to the visur would be a rather cheap and doable way to make the nightvision functions work. Gosh i need to finaly build the pistol and the smg in real life. XD

[@ThatTallGingerYT]

Why does this feel like it should be made be 00, demolition ranch, and Hacksmith Industries? The greatest crossover ever. And why does it feel like the more we develop Halo irl, were getting closer to better tech for warfare???

[@kiarvolfenberg8790]

Electronic parts and 90% of visor are availible for production right now (including the NV function and "friend or foe" marking: it just need some serious neuro-nets working). Electronic polarisation of visor's exterior is to be questioned, though. As for armor plates: it all goes down to actual milirary requests - right now kevlar-based vests are required due to "all ballistic" need of hasard protection, while the ODST's armor plates and BDU are better at withstanding heat-based covenant plasma weapons (and increased heat inside the drop pod if it's forced to pass the dence layers of earth-like planet's atmosphere: basically ODST's are, usually, dropped from low-orbit (just like in Halo 3: ODST - so that the spaceship's hull would take most of planet-entry heat, instead of drop-pods). But it is still possible to be engineered and mass-produced. Low-level xosceletons, added to armor's main frame could strongly improve operator's efficiency: exo would take armor's, ammunition's and weapon's weight, allowing the operator to move like he/she' running naked. So, once again - it IS possible to produce ODST armor nowadays: lt's a question of efficiency and utility, rather than industrial and scientific capabilities. +It's not a question of funding: ODST's are Elite of non-transhuman UNSC forces (compared to US Delta Force or Russian Alpha group Spetsnaz) - you Don't save your money on their equpment: every one of those Elite troopers worth much more, than their equpment.

[@vladthedeathless9439]

I can't hit the like button enough times from everything I learned in this video! Absolutely awesome to hear about your armor project expanding! Can't wait to see future progress!

[@teksaga6405]

Armor plates can be mixed layers of carbon fiber, kevlar and light layer of titanium using small servo motors connected with a main exoskeleton constructed by DARPA.

[@Volvith]

While i think we can almost faithfully recreate it, the question is how effective it might be. With any ballistic hit on a hard surface, there's spalling; The bullet shattering on impact and the fragments going places you don't want. In any case you'd be looking at a soft aramid outer layer to catch fragmentation, which will inherently add some bulk to the armor. A second problem i'm seeing is the weight. Modern soldiers already carry 100+ pounds of gear, LMG squads being between 150 to 200 (though the latter is a more extreme case). I don't see an armor like this being adopted widely any time soon, even if we were to recreate it faithfully and modify its weaknesses. It's too complex, there's too many moving and individual parts to it... And the weight, while on it's own manageable, would be compounded with standard operation gear to be over 150 pounds. I can see this being useful in scalpel scenario's, high value target extraction... High level special operations units. And even then, mobility would be a major drawback, even with all the added protection. Probably to the point of being a death sentence. There are definitely some features individually worth looking at though. Temperature regulation being a REALLY big one; Going commando in desert heat wouldn't have to be a requirement anymore, and some active heating in colder climates might not be a bad idea. The other is the composite silica polymer armor weave as a full body penetration resisting suit, with the before-mentioned temperature regulation worked in. That, and lighter composite metal/ceramic armor plating is always a welcome sign. I think those three combined with the new NVG's, aimbot scopes, and a handful of other toys could aid special climate tactical operations. In the end, i really only see this type of armor being deployed as a highly specialized tactical operations addition, for very specific scenario's only. Widespread adoption would be too costly, cumbersome and error-prone. Bear in mind we're talking about the same people that forced PT belts on everyone because one time someone got run over; The equivalent of "someone shat their pants so now everyone needs to wear a diaper.". But again, there's definitely some technologies worth looking at here.

[@LynnetteJJW]

Heres the thing about armors in that uh… era. Humanity is generally united… for the most part. So the armor system would need to focus more on chemical, high energy, and hybrid (plasma) weapons, lesser so on physical. Yes, theres still some kinetic munitions like the Needle weapons. But they travel at a low velocity and are considered light projectiles. In this case, soft armor suits to protect from light splash of hybrid, chemical, and slow burn from high energy weapons would be a great asset. Kind of like a Spall liner. The main body armor that uses titanium is best used as the stopping wall of main projectile. Good. Not much is needed, but best to armor everything it can, because its not the main point of the armor. Military grade ceramics is the core of the armor system here. US military grade ceramic body armor plates have a melting point of 2000*C, it should be much higher in the year 2400. But titanium has a melting point about 1700*C. An inline gel you mentioned could be highly heat resistant as well. But itd be best if they were molded in as Trauma pads for impact protection from melee attacks, explosions, ect

[@hiddendesire3076]

So out of curiosity, will the design incorporate the chestplate compartment that ODST armor is shown having in the live action ad for ODST? It seems there is like a plate layer that the chest piece “hinges on” providing a small space for personal effects.

[@username1660]

If it's the scene I'm thinking of, I'm pretty sure the protaganist just stuffed the folded flag between the solid piece of chest armor and their body.

[@hiddendesire3076]

@@username1660 Honestly I may be misremembering it, but it kind of looked like there was something there. That being said, with the harness style of their armor, it certainly would still keep it snug to them.

[@username1660]

@@hiddendesire3076 I mean it definitely would make more sense for their gear to have actual pouches in place of, or adjacent to, a solid piece of presumably armor that looks like a fat Chevy logo. Either way it's hard to tell for sure with the 2009 video quality we got to work with.

[@themandomerc652]

i would assume there is a backing to the actual armor plates, some sort of cushion to slightly hold the armor off the body. It is possible the ODST had it stored between the plates and his cushion.

[@d3ltaohniner261]

Just like current military personnel do, putting maps or photos behind the plates in their carrier for safekeeping.

[@colelawton4901]

Quick correction, very specific, doesn't diminish the subject. But gases in your blood expanding will kill you. Its called decompression sickness.

[@smartfella7914]

The fact that you can site YOUR OWN PERSONAL WORK when talking about making real Halo armor is insane, props to you man

[@_spooT]

The question is not "can" we make them, the question is when? We can make them for sure, but the question will always go back to money. How important is the armor, do we really need it right now, is it more important than the other stuff we have, etc. If the army doesn't deem it as important, it will only get shelved let alone get proper funding. It only took us less than a century to start from wooden mock up planes to get them to fly, to super advanced supersonic aircraft, to being able to fly to the moon. Imagine what we could do if they focused on this kind of project with proper funding. DARPA, if I remember, did make something like a heads up display for infantry back in the day. So I don't think we're that far off PS: nice to see you included Matt in your video XD

[@Grimmance]

If the military wanted they could purchase mass produced assisted lifting harnesses already in use by warehouses. Its litterally just a bunch of springs attached to an exp skeleton to reduce weights by so many lbs/Kgs

[@I4MChurch]

Thank you so much for being one of my favorite halo KZbinrs! You have no idea how great it feels to have someone actually be positive in the community and not just someone who complains just to complain about certain things. You offer great feedback when there is criticism that is valid. I cannot wait to own Milnjor & ODST helmets

[@northwiebesick7136]

@installation00 Wow... Good job describing the particulars of odst armor and whether it's possible to build your own. Also, I applaud you for your efforts in building both MJOLNIR and ODST armor variants, and I hope you successfully accomplish both... I've been watching you build the MJOLNIR suit and dam, if that's somewhat easy for you(so far) I can't wait to see how much easier ODST armor is for you to make given the parallel designs that are able to be used in either setup

[@Wizard_Pepsi]

Dude you're literally designing and testing civilian spacesuits with a Halo spin to it. You already deserve applause for all the research and prior work already done.

[@excell211]

8:14 I would just like to add that water may be too heavy if used in an entire body armor and it could weight enough to be some level of problem for an *infantry* soldier, not so much for someone in an aircraft. One could use flexible heat-pipes (which are incredible efficient to transfer/absorb heat), I *think* it would be lighter and more energy efficient, but definitely more expensive to produce.

[@tangent.arc38618]

I was thinking of something similar to what you see in a toaster for keeping warm

[@excell211]

@@tangent.arc38618 Yeah, there are carbon fiber flexible body heaters that are quite simple and cheap to make/buy. The only problem is just cooling the body.

[@seriousbeatsam9386]

@@excell211 I wouldn't even bother with active heating. You only need it in the most extreme places on earth. Good insulation should be enough and for the extreme cases one could use add ons. It still needs to get power from somewhere.

[@BaKa60gaming]

the visor has to be very strong because if there is an explosion, I don't think you want to have glass on your face/eyes

[@drewswanson2701]

I think the helmet instead of it being a lense that changes, it could be a metal armored shield that drops down and it’s also a display like VR, the clear window is the weak point, you can then add integrated targeting and aiming systems also you can have a full field of view like you weren’t wearing a helmet at all. That does exist but would be top shelf custom vr display equal to natural eye which I don’t think exists yet but is possible. Also the cameras and sensors are still way to big for that. Russian titanium 1/4” thick armor I think can stop 30-06 AP rounds which is impressive and could be used on a helmet, composite might be lighter but they deform badly on modern helmets, all the halo helmets I pictured as you probably can’t look through them, would be a pretty heavy helmet but might be able to have to it and the suit in general have power assistants like an bionic xo suit. Love that CE marines has a little eye piece display, realistic that could display you targeting and aim and be a full hud display of everything you need to know

[@donovanchau3483]

Funniest thing is that after reading the title, I joked in my head that the end would be “Yes, and I’ve already made one”

[@excell211]

15:54 I always thought e-paper technology to be so cool. Also, it doesn't consume energy with static images, so maybe one could make active camouflage. Not as advanced to become invisible, but good enough for its price.

[@HunnitFlat]

I've waited my whole life for this video

[@dramspringfeald]

We also have Polymer Ceramic Titanium foam armor already. It's about the same weight as aluminum but about 3-4 times resistant as steel of the same thickness.

[@dramspringfeald]

It's heat, impact, ballistic* and radioactive resistant

[@darkwolf780]

TLDW: Yes its fully possible to make the armor, I do suggest watching the video still since he goes into the broad term details that would be required which is really quite fascinating and interesting

[@DeuceClubs]

I have always been partial to the ODST over Spartans. Closer to mortal men, but equally heroic.

[@Alaric1]

Don't forget they had the better game (and books)

[@michaelguernsey1206]

Your announcement at the end filled me with child like joy I laughed outloud. It literally almost brought a tear to my eye. You are literally making our child hood hero come to life. Your allowing us to be able to be the Spartans we all dreamed of being as kids. God speed man.

[@neilbodwell9172]

I always love your videos man. Also yeah the torso and the extremities are the key speaking from experience. I and other soldiers have straight up scavenged unused flame-less ration heaters from discarded US MRE's and lined the inside of our cold weather gear as best we could to stay warm...or at least comfortable enough. I've been in enough very cold environments to say the US Navy SEALs are 100% correct. There is even clothing used by motorcyclists that does some of that.

[@LinkTheTwilightsSoilder]

So I was thinking about how we could like remove the support structure for the helmet, and then I remembered that ODST’s are highly trained to wear this armor and deal with a degree of the temperatures of the initial drop

[@kingmasterlord]

6:36 combining all of these options that you're listing is exactly what I've been working on for Fallout power armor and pilot suit

[@jamesfulton215]

love the fact you have the ODST theme song in the start as part of the background music

[@Archangel657]

One thing you forgot to touch on was power supply and ventilation. What would power the suit/helmet systems and what would provide ventilation so that the wearer isn't constantly fogging up the visor via their humid breath, and breathing their own exhalation. And as a side note, I dont think its necessary to make such a suit viable in space, as making it viable on the battlefields we have now would be the best approach. Why? Because who knows, maybe Rathyon or whomever will come knocking on your door for advice haha

[@Youhaveaname]

This is awesome! Looking forward to the ODST armor development!

[@calebpfannkuch1058]

Gold mine of a channel and the breakdowns!! The heating system you discussed it a huge step forward! Another channel to check out for some ideas is Alex’s Lab here on KZbin! He shows a lot of ways he’s making a eco skeleton and how he’s powering it etc

[@TheRealTri]

I feel like a heavy suit would work well for swat type roles or room clearing. But not much application on open field combat

[@Abrxas01]

Like the fact that you had the ODST live action trailer music in the background at the beginning of the vid. Nice touch

[@maniac117]

These all almost seen plausible, but the problem seems to be there's no way to combine all the utility of heat regulation, heads up displays, etc., while also having armor. After all, I don't see any armor on your experimental helmet, which is super cool... but also provides about as much combat protection as a hockey mask, maybe less.

[@ChefandTheArbistor]

I think 343 should make a “spec ops” odst with energy shields, JUST energy shields (so they can still be different from Spartans)

[@hellsniper4418]

you are legendary my friend, you have answered the question that others say it cant be done

[@Jamesblonde0007]

Instalation double 0 ? The name alone earned my sub. I can tell you put time into your content. Thank you

[@cloroxbleachchocolate_synchron]

can't wait for you to do spi next

[@Adamwofford]

Also, the cooling suites from battletech while driving a battlemech, because the cockpit is already really hot, because the mech is power by a Fusion reactor, so the O.D.S.T. suites are a mix of the two

[@jackmarshallD9525]

ODST's and their lore are the very thing that keep me coming back to Halo again and again. Thank you for this 00. ❤️

[@MirorR3fl3ction]

One of the reasons i love Halo lore is that so much of the human tech is so well grounded in proven physics. Most of human tech in Halo is more fictional engineering rather than fictional science

[@lt4753]

Titanium is half the weight but still needs to be thicker than steel. High target areas could be covered. Exoskeleton into the armor would help.

[@atomatlas5595]

Yes. Technically we can make anything from the Halo universe, especially the human guns use in the Halo Universe, the guns IN Halo are actually worst than IRL guns, but the armor we could make too, would we want to tho? It's going to weight atleast 700 pounds. Wouldn't practical unless we can get weight down

[@blackebl]

I need to work for you guys. I have been working for years on a similar venture. Granted I've been trying to avoid copying because I hope it's used for first responders and wilderness fire fighters in high risk environments. But yeah omg 😳 to see someone else working on something that has kept me up til sunrise many many nights; I'm astonished.

[@nathanielmoran1819]

G'day from Australia Installation 00. Glad to see you're still doing HQ Halo Universe content. Big fan of the channel, despite the current 343 events. Keeping it real brother

[@bananakinflyswatter904]

Well now... This is most certainly an interesting development. Look forward to your progress, good sir!

[@tans117]

One of my favorite designs, storytelling, atmosphere, and music and it all doesn't make you feel invincible but rather relatable as a human to face adversity and danger. The question is what makes you think this type of design doesn't already exist and probably just sitting on a locked shelf waiting for the need to arise for it to be necessary to build it?

[@palmerar5084]

Hey Installation00, just wanted to say you making these videos really does help the halo community get through this "Halo crisis" and hope more videos keep coming though, much love from me and I'm guessing most Halo fans :)

[@HelljumperE7ZJ]

While ODST armor shounds awesome, which type would be best, the H3, the H4, or the H2A

[@youngman850]

You mad lad... It's crazy cool the projects you're doing. It's crazy inspiring and just plain cool.

[@LtLysander]

Love you 00. In these times of little Halo news I appreciate you keeping us entertained.

[@kash8220]

I like your fancy words, clever man.

[@adnaanferoz5135]

This Is Incredible!!!, The Breakdown was awesome Mr00

[@jshreyer]

00, any chance of making one of the ODST helmets that could be used in paintball safely??? I’m not sure what ANSI rating the lenses are for paintball masks but could probably come up with that info if needed

[@xXSteelCapeXx]

13:20 books say that the smart scoping is pretty much a bluetooth connection between a camera-scope on the gun and the neural implant that every UNSC soldier is required to have. hence why you cant see the lense on the magnum's scope.

[@AcM.5233]

This is my favorite channel on KZbin. Keep up the excellent work. That said, I would love to see another entry in the odst game series. Halo odst was an excellent game

[@MarcusWolfWanders]

00 bringing my childhood escapism games to reality through materials science and engineering understanding is a dream come true. and even more-so because I actually understand it all with no formal education whatsoever! :D all of the big-brain youtubers have brought me to where I am today. love you 00!

[@SpritezUp]

One thing I wanna point out is that when trying to determine what the armour is made out of, it’s being looked at like the armour would he shot at with kinetic rounds. While in the halo universe, it’s primarily plasma based rounds that the ODST’s are going against. i believe the armours made more so with that in mind, how to deal with the heat of the plasma rather than the kinetic force of a physical round

[@lt4753]

Nice! That thickening fluid is sweet! Wonder why it’s not used in regular application

[@Snapper314]

Awesome work Sir! Many of the Helmet capabilities currently exist on devices like an ECOTI, the XM157 Optic, and the Integrated Visual Augmentation System, the Army’s new “do-it-all” goggle.

[@Jacobk-g7r]

14:26 i was bouta say ir laser would be simple.

[@WolfeSaber]

For the spring based support system, there is a project, can't remember what it was, where the springs for a special space suit can be electrically power for strength to move material more easily on another planet. Might be the MIT design.

[@GenikaXVI]

Making an ODST suit has been one of my life goals too , we need it to protect Humanity against itself and against whatever may come from the outside....

[@siderongames5641]

Imagine a battle Royale where every player is an ODST and You are dropped in the ODST's dropods at the beginning of the party. For the closing dome you can invent some argument with a Covenant device or something like that.

[@marz.6102]

This is the most crazy project I'm looking forward to seeing more of!!!

[@excell211]

6:36 Dunno which is better for you, but there are quite a few youtube tutorials on how to make shock-absorbing non-newtonian fluids. Some simply uses washing glue, water and borax to thickening it. The name of the video is "Making and testing polymer gel (slime)." Polyurethane is also a great shock absorber (and fire resistant) material, it has a lot of different types and uses, this kind of polymer is even used on the space industry to protect sensible equipment. I mean, maybe it is cheaper/easier to make in your case, and besides, I don't think you would like to be in the other side of that titanium block without some kind of padding/shock absorbing material.

[@Baylor1993]

I think the EVA systems are the inhibiting factors for creating a real life ODST system. A high altitude drop could be survived by the appropriate tech within the drop pod, leaving the ballistic and heat protection as the only real concerns if we wanted to create ODST’s as soon as possible, along with the necessary VISR tech within the helmet. We still need to progress a ways with space suits before incorporating them into combat uniforms, as someone who used to wear them lol

[@brodydunn1732]

While he does speak a lot of authentic facts. A lot of information is overlooked. 1. These systems are sensitive and have little testing in an active combat environment. 2. A vast majority of these systems require power to run them. Expansion on issue One: ODSTs are employed in highly hostile environments, which can be hot, cold, or space. These systems, while available and in development, will require constant maintenance and upkeep, something that would cost more than the arm is worth, especially over time. While in a controlled testing environment, they may work, most of these technologies have not been proven in an active combat setting. Expansion on issue two: Anyone in the military can tell you that the batteries we use do not work as effectively as you may think. They are heavy, bulky, and can drain quickly, especially in the cold. A multitude of these systems in this video will require either a majority of the energy or all of it to keep the ODST in the fight. Assuming that we have something that can sustain a soldier in active combat in an extreme environment for days, that system directly to said the system would need additional protection. This means additional weight, additional cost, and additional upkeep. Conclusion: While making a good point, the creator has focused on specifications that, on paper, look and work great. In reality, many of these technologies are too expensive to maintain in the intended environment they are used. The armor is also bulky in nature, limiting movement and mobility, especially in an ever-changing CQB environment. While what has been stated could be expanded on further, the simple fact of the matter is that the development, employment, and upkeep of this ODST BDU is impossible due to current logistical constraints.

[@krismichaeldreemurr7818]

Your project for your Spartan armor is more accurate to the MK-IV armor due to limited technology, just thought it was a little fun detail to point out, I'm wanting to make thhse now

[@bmxdude1337]

Wow didn't know we were working on new night vision, that was freaking sweet to see