Can we Reach 700Hz by Overclocking this Old CRT Monitor?

[@DejaVuPlaya]

It's funny how easy it is on a CRT... 22 years passed and we call it a ground breaking technology on flat panels, aside the fact that new games still have around 100 fps on average on top systems.

[@RetroGamingBase]

Haha yeah that is so true! Personally I always try to reach 100FPS and 100Hz. Totally enough… But since we are chasing records, I thought why not set one up 😅

[@vgamonitor]

though then again at least the high end flat panels don't need to sacrifice resolution for high refresh rate

[@RetroGamingBase]

@@vgamonitor yeah of course! This is just a technical fun fact and often when we CRT users said, that CRT tech is faster than the modern display techs then people came and said, „but but! They have 400Hz LCDs now…“ 🤣 Well, at least now we can say that we have 700 😎 I mean, we are talking about Displays that are 22 years old and we’re made for 1600x1200@100Hz in mind. And when you use them like that they look like 4K displays today and are a lot faster still 😅

[@zagaraone8653]

@@RetroGamingBase If PC can support atleast 300FPS, it will run much smoother on an 240HZ. - Higher FPS, less latency. Altough.. you are using CRT, so it's ofcourse another deal all together, when it comes down to it. :D

[@설리-o2w]

IDK what your specs are but average is above 200 and like over 500fps on lower settings! On my 4090

[@Conoido]

I wish CRT's were still made, Imagine a modern CRT that were able to get huge resolutions with that kind of Hz, and stuff like VRR and HDR, and all of that modern goodness. that would be the dream.

[@RetroGamingBase]

Amen to that brother 🍻

[@noodlekingjr]

VRR could have been possible maybe, however HDR would have never happened unless you're okay with a 120lbs 500w space heater. The amount of electricity needed would quickly make it not worth it in addition to OLED level burn in issues due to how fragile the phosphor coatings are. I wish some company would try to make a new monitor even if it was only in a limited production. But the best innovations that could maybe be possible are higher refresh rates, thinner bezels, and slightly more shallow tubes. Dot pitch is limited pretty physically and leaded glass can only be so light.

[@olnnn]

@@noodlekingjr What's interesting - and seems to have mostly been forgotten - is that up to the mid 00s several companies (Mainly Canon and Sony) were researching and even had prototypes of a next generation CRT-like flat panel display technology which used a matrix of tiy CRT tubes in a way (look up Surface-conduction electron-emitter display and Field-emission display) but that display tech got abandoned in the late 00s in favor of LCD screens which is too bad.. it seems like it would be the perfect evolution of CRTs

[@SterkeYerke5555]

I don't think VRR would've been easy. That way you're varying the amount of electrons you're firing at the screen, which would mean your brightness would vary depending on framerate. I think OLED displays have a similar issue, which is why they tend to flicker on some occasions when using VRR.

[@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx]

Latency is non existent it's 0.01ms

[@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx]

CRT's were a magical black box

[@RetroGamingBase]

Haha indeed, when someone asked how they work, magic was a good answer always 😅👍

[@robertcarhiboux3164]

and was not burning eye retina unlike every modern panel made with LED.

[@capichow]

It’s very magical Yet people throw them out 😞 So many to safe

[@curiousmind_]

​@@robertcarhiboux3164 oh they can be fatal for the eyes too.. and sometimes with some radiation

[@Slay3rOne]

"In a previous video we reached 700Hz on this Iiyama CRT monitor, today we are gonna try to break that previous record and see if we can reach the ultimate 1kHz refresh rate!" - Some day LOL! You mad man haha! Very impressive to see. Makes me more and more curious to know what components could be the most at risk, if any, doing stuff like that. And if it's possible to make it safe for prolonged use.

[@RetroGamingBase]

Haha right now I say, no way! But who knows, maybe if I got a Monitor that is already close to die or scratched or so … And yeah I also wonder how long such a Monitor could be used like that before breaking… Or would it break at all? 🤔

[@ogshotglass9291]

​@@RetroGamingBaseonly one way to know... You're gonna have to buy one of these and sacrifice it to science.

[@jamesdoesthings1096]

⁠@@RetroGamingBaseMaybe it’s possible you can use a close to dying identical monitor and team up with a professional CRT repair guy or friend to help surpass previous issues? Perhaps if modern replacement parts exist they could function better than the original?

[@martingaete8098]

Homie will soon have a working crt monitor with the same freq as the cpu 😅

[@lievenvv]

​@@RetroGamingBaseshould've tried interlaced!

[@Salohcin_Semaj]

theyre actually planning on releasing 1000hz 4k monitors soon! Crazy that we're jumping straight to 4k at 1Khz instead of 1080p or 1440p first

[@RetroGamingBase]

Oh wow! That would be awesome, although I doubt the SOON here 👍🍻

[@4.0.4]

​@@RetroGamingBase Blur buster guys (the flying UFO test guys) took a look at it, check it out.

[@ManuFortis]

Excellent. It seems I may have waited long enough with my current displays so as to beat out the constant refresh rate/resolution upgrade war. I've been using a pretty decent LED display for a while now, capable of 4k 60 at DCI resolution instead of the chopped down version often used. 4096x2160 is DCI, for reference. But due to some games just, um, being a heck of a lot to run at that resolution all the time, without making the powerbill cause my wallet to cry, I tend to run at lower resolutions this TV can handle. Which comes with the nicety of a better colour range, since the 4k mode only likes 4:2:2 at 10bit and 4:2:0 at 12bit at most. The lower resolutions can handle up to 4:4:4 at 12bit, with refresh rates of up to 75hz instead of 60hz. Technically the TV's spec sheet claims 120hz, but the hardware reports differently. Probably has to do with those upgrade boxes Samsung released. Anyways. This has served me well enough for the past, almost decade now. And the reason why I bring that allup, is because the same thing will probably apply to the next TV I buy, instead of a monitor; at first at least. Here's why. 1. The panel manufacturer making that panel running at that refresh rate and resolution, are going to want to get as many buyers as possible. This means going after mobile, desktop, laptop, and TV's. Which one do you figure sells fastest first? I imagine it's going to be a tie between mobile and TV's, because desktop and laptops tend to be long term use for many, and as long as their monitor in use is still 'good enough' probably aren't going to upgrade any time soon. But mobile gets upgrade cycles faster, and TV's get used by much more people on a general basis for all sorts of media consumption. So... 2. Sony, Samsung, LG, and the like, are probably going to release TV's using this first. This allows them to sell bigger panels first, with smaller panels going towards the smaller devices that will get those sales fastest first. 3. On the consumer side of things, while TV's may have notoriously been bad in the past for things like input lag, they have gotten pretty decent over the years, with mine being a good example of when they started being decent. It's nothing to phone home about input latency wise, compared to monitors today, but back then, it was. Between that, and its ability to select from a very wide range of resolution profiles, it has been a catch all god send monitor for me. And that's generally what a TV is, compared to a computer monitor. It's designed to work with as much as possible, ideally. Hence why this TV can handle DCI resolutions and such. It needs to be able to handle those if a movie uses them. And also, if they are getting input latency out of the way by stepping up the refresh rate to insane levels that allows for frame rates to run unhindered by tearing; then TV's basically win at this point. Why? It all goes back to that bit I stated earlier about colour ranges, and DCI resolutions. Monitors by and large, tend to be 8bit limited in their colour range. Even 'graphics design' monitors... unless you pay huge for the nice ones. And then, you're limited in size. But a TV with a good colour accuracy? A high resolution range larger than what is normally sold to the public? And with high refresh rates possible too? All while being ... huge? How much must I pay? Sure, you can get some pretty big monitors now too... but gee... I wonder why that might be... hmmmmmm... And they aren't cheap either. The result of this will be two fold for people like me. We'll have a really nice option to spend a lot on, but not spend again on for a long time, and all the old stuff that's still really dang nice compared to what I have now, will become much cheaper as it phases out of the market. I mean, you can already buy pretty respectable though not great units from Walmart for a few hundred dollars that will use about 50 inches of wall space. Mine is still somewhat better, but only barely. And it resells for roughly the same as those units now. As a final note, for reference on what would currently be my next upgrade if I could afford it today... LG's G3 line up. I'd go for the smaller screen in this case, because having already used a 65" for a while now, I kind of want something just a tad smaller. Not much, just a bit. For portability reasons.

[@Salohcin_Semaj]

@@ManuFortis you may want to wait a little longer for OLED panels come out. were about halfway there

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

These panels are not intended to do 1000hz at 4k, however.

[@jonny11bonk]

CRT monitors have probably the cleanest and smoothest motion. I just stumbled across this video randomly on my page. Great video!

[@RetroGamingBase]

Thanks 🍻 and yeah they still have that and I’m always torn between being happy or sad about that

[@damara2268]

Yeah they do.. but at the cost of size and radiation shooting at you

[@jsr734]

@@damara2268 who cares about size and radiation when you can feel the smoothest movement from the mouse pointer on the screeen you could ever get? 🤤

[@ezg8448]

The worst thing was moving them around, since a 21" weighed literally 100 lbs.

[@jonny11bonk]

@@ezg8448 Back then, people didn't really mind those 30-40kg as the monitors weren't meant to be any portable. For me, it was kind of a workout, considering my current PC is getting close to 30kg I move around almost on my daily basis.

[@Sharpless2]

Finally i can play Space cadet Pinball at 700hz

[@RetroGamingBase]

You will never miss again!!🤣👍

[@Enderlais]

i can feel the german accent (correct me if im wrong) but a fellow german will say hello here and i fully understand that you dont wanna risk the monitor. i think its crazy how manny of those crazy things are done by germans, this shows that we still have the ingenuety and creativity in our blood (from the amiga days).

[@RetroGamingBase]

Haha Amen to that brother 👍😅 Und japp, du hast mich ertappt 🍻

[@Enderlais]

@@RetroGamingBase Hihi, in letzter zeit immer ofter

[@Enderlais]

kann kein oe benutzten wegen englischer tastatur

[@FredSchill]

Wow!! Congrats on that 700hz, really amazing. How nervous I was pushing my 514prp to 250hz for Doom Ethernal 😂 Great channel, just subbed !!

[@RetroGamingBase]

Thanks and glad to have you 😀🍻

[@papparaba5504]

​@@RetroGamingBase Have you ever tried/managed to make modern Windows (10/11) to output in PAL/NTSC SD res (720x480i/576i)?? I have a vga to scart-rgb adapter (umsa by arcade forge) but couldn't make windows to display a 15khz interlaced signal. Only progressive, like 320x240p worked.

[@renax7631]

Never though about it, but it makes sense. There are less limiting factors for refresh rates on a CRT then there are on a LCD panel.

[@RetroGamingBase]

Oh yeah, that’s totally true 👍🍻

[@hugevibez]

TCL is actually working on a 1000hz monitor with display strobing, and at a 4k resolution as well. But it uses LCD technology so there will probably be ghosting or overshoot and potentially strobing crosstalk though they are working with blur busters directly. Cool stuff nonetheless.

[@RetroGamingBase]

Hey that’s interesting! Yeah I will be the first to cheer if our modern display industry finally gets a display right that beats CRT in every aspect! I hope I see that day lol

[@talibong9518]

Display strobing is horrible. Who are all these fake enhancements targeting? They all make the image look worse and hurt my eyes, especially backlight strobing, it seems seizure inducing.

[@xguitarist_]

What’s so frustrating is that we already have better than CRT motion capable LCDs (Blurbusters’s words not mine) on the market and in consumers’ hands, but they are only used in VR headsets right now. The quest headsets apparently have a 0.3ms persistence strobe, zero crosstalk, no ghosting, no scan out skew, no phosphor trails, etc. despite using LCDs. I own a quest 3 and a pc CRT and I can vouch for the motion handling. I just want that in a computer monitor format to hold me over until they figure out microled or something

[@RetroGamingBase]

@@xguitarist_ oh sounds intriguing! Yeah, I would be the first to cheer when we finally had something comparably awesome than CRTs for normal gaming!! I mean at least OLED gave us back blacks after so many years having to watch IPS or VA panel dark blue 🤣 What I find most funny is that the industry have never ever mentioned black or hz in the years 2004 to 2016 … as if these things never mattered for gaming in the first place 😂

[@guily6669]

Damn, still for 4K that's incredible, I wouldn't be so surprised if they made a 1080P 1000hz very fast instead... Anyway years ago Nvidia already shown a different screen technology running at like 1700hz lag free and blur free...

[@captainmorgan5962]

The HD Triniton i have was way ahead of its time! I still enjoy watching tv on it! Its a CRT.

[@ulinkot]

Для отображения полноценной винды на таком маленьком разрешении нужен scaling мод (искать в сети Display1_DisableSdvoCrtEdidRead, Display1_DownScalingSupported, Display1_EnableDynamicScaling) и сможете отображать любое разрешение.

[@ShioKickflip]

I have a Dell E771mm CRT monitor that can reach 85Hz at 1024X768. I tested it on Counter-Strike Source and it's amazing how smooth it goes. Also the image quality and colors are beautiful

[@RetroGamingBase]

Awesome! Dell often used Sony Tubes and those were among the best ever made 👍

[@tommynobaka]

I had a 19 inch M990 before it died and that thing would do 100hz at 1024x768. I have an E771 as well, I don't think it will go higher hz at that resolution. I haven't tested it

[@CrescentZelda]

If my math is correct you should be able to push your CRT higher! Your CRT has a maximum Horizontal scan rate of 81kHz, so you should be able to achieve 1152x864 @89Hz! Try it out and let me know if you need any help I will make a detailed guide on this soon because this really fascinates me! I personally run my Gateway EV910 at 1152x864 @105Hz its awesome! 1280x960 is another option but 1152x864 is also 4:3 and there is almost no noticeable downgrade in image quality and you get more Hz!

[@ScorpionX3]

Ich finde das Klasse was du da gemacht hast👍🏿 bin echt gespannt ob du es hinbekommst mit 700hz zu zocken

[@RetroGamingBase]

Danke dir! Ja das wäre cool. Vielleicht geht es mit einem älteren Windows bei dem eine so kleine Auflösung angezeigt werden kann… oder vielleicht interlaced

[@ChristianCastle]

They need to start to make monitors/TV's mixing the best of CRT technology and current technology.

[@thomasheller9044]

SED-TVs. Unfortunately not further developed

[@GenuineTraumatizer]

Never seen a video by this guy before, but 100% got my attention using Mechwarrior 4 Mercs' menu music

[@RetroGamingBase]

@@GenuineTraumatizer haha yeah, still one of my favourite games ever 👍🍻

[@MoZadaCraftus]

Gute Arbeit Kamerad!

[@RetroGamingBase]

Danke dir 🍻

[@Dint0]

I had this monitor. I miss this monitor, it was awesome. Good times with CS 1.6 😢

[@yesval]

watching this video take me back to 2015

[@RetroGamingBase]

Hehe nice! 🍻

[@gabs180-w3j]

woah this is wild i never knew you could overclock a monitor

[@RetroGamingBase]

LOL yeah it’s not common and only works on very few CRTs 👍

[@thronritter6295]

Thats because he didnt lol That monitor is simply built without a limit this will not work on any other monitor

[@RetroGamingBase]

@@thronritter6295 yeah exactly 👍 There are a few Monitors who are unlocked. The only ones I know for sure are the 512/514 🍻

[@thronritter6295]

@@RetroGamingBase some from nokia aswell, but they dont go as crazily i high i think and you can unlock some sony monitors with windas. nice video

[@WheeledHamster]

When this guy play COD, he went interstellar.

[@RetroGamingBase]

👍😅

[@peterweber79]

the big sony CRT beamers had always insane scan rates ( (e.g 1292 seems to have 110 Khz) maybe they would reach even more Hz ?!

[@bamboostick5]

I love how "clear" that looks for 120p

[@CubanLegend561]

Amazing! How are you getting 600 or 700hz on that monitor, what GPU are you using? And what Digital to Analog Converter are you using (if any?) please and thank you! :3

[@andreivasiliu8954]

theyre using DP VGA from delock. they talk about it in an earlier vid

[@sniperstyx]

currently there's a monitor from a company whose name i already forgot that has a monitor in the works that will have 600 Hz

[@mrnmrn1]

Be careful, I have a VisionMaster Pro 510, and it has a fatal design flaw in the power supply. If one particular capacitor dries out, the feedback gets defeated and the 80V B+ rail goes up to 140V, frying the RGB output IC, the horizontal drive circuit and possibly even the flyback transformer. And in my monitor that was a 85°C rated capacitor wedged between heatsinks and power resistors. It's a 22uF 50V capacitor IIRC. I can look it up in the service manual if you are interested. I don't know if your model uses the same chassis as the 510. My monitor released the magic smoke when it was only 2-3 years old.

[@RetroGamingBase]

They are not the same. I also have several 510pro. But thanks for the heads up 🍻👍

[@TheBackyardChemist]

I mean in theory you could make some custom drive electronics, attach it to the neck of the tube and go both fast and at higher res. At some point you might start burning the deflection coils out, but I think the main limitation is the drive electronics.

You may want to invest in a GM counter to measure radiation if you are pushing CRTs this far outside their operating parameters. I only did some mental math, so I may be completely off, but I believe 700 Hz may have already pushed radiation to hazardous levels (depending on how effective the shielding is outside its intended operating range).

[@lordvectrex]

Useful advice right here. Can you share more info on how to calculate that?

[@GodKitty677]

Testing the monitors protection circuits. CRTs have great latency.

[@rpmarts]

Very interesting. LG 32gs95ue-b OLED monitor can do 1080p@480 (or 2160p@240)

[@RetroGamingBase]

Yeah! I also use a LG OLED for very new games that look great on it. 👍

[@cajampa]

Notice that monitor is running 480 Hz in 4k internally when it is running 1080p@480, because is has to upscale it to the native panel resolution of 4K. So LG have the tech to do 4K @ 480 OLED panels. I can not wait until I can buy a big OLED TV with 480 Hz.

[@h.i.t.m.a.n_47_911]

wich software you used/loves the idea btw

[@dotplan]

I have a dead 510 I want to fix. Ridiculous monitor, absolutely fantastic.

[@RetroGamingBase]

I had one of these fixed just 2 weeks ago! I have a lot of spare parts for these because that’s the Monitor I have the most units from

[@LaCazaLP]

''Can we Reach 700Hz by Overclocking this Old CRT Monitor?'' 5090: Please dont.

[@lemagreengreen]

iiyama made the best CRTs, loved those Vision Master ones.

[@NVMDSTEvil]

How about mucking about with plasmas? They used to claim 600hz back in the day. Yeah, it was all "subfield" and that but it might be neat to see what they could actually manage.

[@BDng1]

Jetzt muss der deutsche Akzent noch auf 700hz😂❤

[@blunderingfool]

How are you getting above the regular refresh limit? I've tried using CRU to set refresh rates above my Vision Master Pro 455's 160 limit but it goes out of range even with 320x240.

[@curiousmind_]

Yeah.. they usually go out of range if you push them over the limited refresh rate

[@curiousmind_]

But this one is special as it's unlocked

[@aciid52]

how do you feel about the veiwsonic flatscreen crts of the early 2000s

[@RipMeGaming]

2:48 "I have some idears"

[@RetroGamingBase]

if you do, just tell 😀

[@DwAboutItManFr]

There was a 4K 1000hz LCD display on the works.

[@RetroGamingBase]

Nice! Would be cool to see this, I hear they have trouble realising 600Hz atm though, so lets hope they solve the issues soon 👍

[@DwAboutItManFr]

@@RetroGamingBase Yeah, i feel kinda bad we probably will never see 20Khz screen which should be basically perfect...

[@CoffeeAndPaul]

Flula Borg knows his monitors, people.

[@MsTatakai]

I miss those CRT ;_;

[@RetroGamingBase]

Yeah they are so nostalgic to see right now 👍

[@ricardombr]

Interlacing will make you be able to double how fast the pictures are shown, because the resolution will be half of one frame and half of the other.

[@RetroGamingBase]

Sounds awesome! I have to try that soon 👍 Does it have the downside of more lag or something?

[@lulkLogan]

@@RetroGamingBase Yeah next video I would try 240i instead of 120p No lag. The lines just land in a slightly different place each refresh

[@Bugatti12563]

What DAC are you using? I’m limited by my cheap Amazon hdmi to vga adapter

[@RetroGamingBase]

A delock Adapter. Check out my Video about it, it’s all shown there 👍🍻

[@H-W]

why is this not possible with normal lcd monitors? I don't mean that high but for example from 60hz to 120hz? (I only managed 75hz) is it not possible to go any higher?

[@DDYVEN]

only very few crt monitors can be overclocked, not just any monitor LCD monitors weren't made to be overclocked at all, and the thing is that even at 60 fps it looks somewhat smooth. Exceeding it may simply just result in more lag and heating, so companies didn't even bother to do it

[@De-M-oN]

you can buy a LCD with much more hertz 😀 Even better would be OLED though

[@SalveMonesvol]

Its great from a technical standpoint but, would this ever be useful? I only want brighter and faster flat panels vecause of the need for black frame insertion. On a CRT, I usually play older games with fixed frame rates, and in that case, you get the best motion perception from the lowest integer multiple of the frame rate you can get.

[@RetroGamingBase]

Naaah, I never said it was useful 😅 you are right with everything else, too. Personally I play with 100Hz and that’s totally enough for CRTs since they are faster anyway no matter the Hz

[@SalveMonesvol]

@@RetroGamingBase I'm curious about how you "kailbroke" the refresh limits. Mine is limited to 160hz. I'd like to try 40hz for old games that are limited to 20fps.

[@RetroGamingBase]

@@SalveMonesvol this Monitor is unlocked

[@rdkayyvalorant]

How smooth did it feel

[@AugustoV8Cesar]

Trying playing Games like Read Dead redemption 2 and Call of duty Warzone on 1024x768p @162hz A question, what happens if you set the horizontal and vertical resolution the same? Like 1000x1000

[@CHake123]

could you get like infinite Hz for a 1x1 resolution?

[@RetroGamingBase]

Oh that’s very technical, sorry, no clue if that would work in theory

[@CHake123]

@@RetroGamingBase I don’t even know how you would measure a 1x1 resolution for anything

[@ezg8448]

I miss old CRT monitors, so beautifully flexible when it comes to resolutions. I, to this day still dislike the LCD interpolation look.

[@RetroGamingBase]

Amen to that my friend 🍻

[@De-M-oN]

I was positively surprised about the Gigabyte FO32U2P OLED though. Its interpolation to 1440p is amazing. I know it always insane blurry, but this is absolutely tolerable here.

[@dimitrisiakovidis5734]

I used to own a Visionmaster Pro 454, easily the best CRT I ever owned.

[@becuasegoodreason]

look for a way for raise vertical reflesh rate limit

[@RetroGamingBase]

Yeah that would be something! 👍

[@rnbdc]

Why don't you blur focus a little on those low resolutions? It would make them a lot more usable for gaming. Those high end monitors usually have a focus control.

[@RetroGamingBase]

Hmmm might be worth a shot! Yeah they have focus wheels 👍

[@rnbdc]

@@RetroGamingBase My Samsung 1100MB has both focus and moiré controls. Moiré acts by randomizing the scanlines position, making moiré less visible in 1024x768 for example, and scanlines kind of fat, but doesn't defocus horizontally. Focus is the usual global focus control. Above 1200 lines, they tend to merge and you want them as focused as possible, but below that number those controls are useful. Of course my monitor doesn't go above ~170 Hz, despite going up to 130 kHz, so I can't get such ridiculously low resolutions at 600 Hz.

[@joman104]

im running my crt at 1213 by 520 150 hz. i use AMD VSR to have windows display a 1680 by 720, or 1920 by 820 or 4k

[@RetroGamingBase]

Sounds nice! 👍

[@ikategame]

ok but can this be done on every single crt monitor or this is some unique monitor?

[@RetroGamingBase]

Sadly not, this Monitor and it’s brother, the 514pro are special as they are unlocked in their horizontal rate. It’s kinda like these old Intel CPUs that were unlocked in their multiplier, if you know what I mean 😀

[@ikategame]

@@RetroGamingBase ok

[@fb39ca4]

It's not that special. CRTs are limited by the horizontal refresh rate which is the overall refresh rate times the vertical resolution. If you can display 1600x1200 at 70 Hz, you can display 1600x120 at 700 Hz. Just comes down to the control circuitry of the monitor accepting such a strange resolution.

[@aKuBiKu]

@@RetroGamingBase Surely you mean the vertical is unlocked? I don't see how it would be possible for a monitor to have an "unlocked" horizontal scan frequency lol

[@AngstyBiscuit]

Damn, I remember doing that and I wasn't able to get past around 120 Hz (the monitor would just display the "no signal" message)

[@RetroGamingBase]

Oh yeah, only few Monitors are unlocked like this one. All others have a set limit 👍

[@AngstyBiscuit]

@@RetroGamingBase unless it's was because of my cheap HDMI to VGA adapter cause I was able to get it to display "out of range" error if I set higher resolution without reducing refresh rate

[@curiousmind_]

​@AngstyBiscuit if it was the adapter, then the monitor would turn off without showing anything.

[@gamerfox____]

It'd awsome to see a crt hit 700hz I tested this on my 13in crt res 300x190 960hz

[@RESURRECT2]

0:55 not anymore, there is planned 750Hz LCD

[@patrlim]

you could try running linux should scale nicely and you have modern features

[@RetroGamingBase]

Oh yeah! Had not thought about that yet! Ty 👍

[@patrlim]

@@RetroGamingBase np. just remember to try different desktop environments, some might scale better than others

[@LordAlacorn]

I would never consider TN panel, regardless of how many Hertz it pushes - it has some qualities, but my eyes seen enough for my lifetime. Also nice to see good old CRT still kicking ass! :)

[@RetroGamingBase]

Haha and you are right to never do that 👍 I remember around 2010 or so, people said if you want better quality take IPS or VA, if you want fast display for competitive gaming, take TN 😅 If you would have said then, take a CRT! They would have brought to the next institute 😁

[@nightthemoon8481]

There are 480hz oleds right now, there are 2 oleds that can so 4k240hz with a button that switches them to 1080p480hz

[@Lavadawg]

How do these crt monitors make 120p look like 1080p

[@RetroGamingBase]

Haha yeah they are incredibly good at low resolutions. I would not say 120p is 1080 but if you look at 800x600 then you have 1080p for sure! And 1600x1200 is your 4K, at least

[@Lavadawg]

@@RetroGamingBase I actually use a 1680x1050 targa visionary monitor i found in the dumpster, its a legendary monitor, the lcd is unscratched, no backlight bleeding, its also a space heater and has intergrated audio which is loud and proper (The lcd looks better than my TCL 1080p tv)

[@sugarybannana]

Its really not surprising. Those were great monitors

[@jonas314ano]

a 4k 1000hz panel has been demoed by TCL. unrealistic bandwidth requirements tho as a result

[@RetroGamingBase]

Damn! That’s still nice. Thanks for sharing 👍🍻

[@AlpineTheHusky]

Well. Compression and or multi input solutions are not too bad.

[@SilentBlast]

Seems like i have to replace my LG ultragear 4k 164hz monitor with a CRT 😂

[@RetroGamingBase]

Haha don’t replace it, get additional and change depending on the game you play 😅 that’s what I do

[@Isaax]

God, I crave a 500+ Hz CRT gaming experience

[@Pulverrostmannen]

I wish it was this easy under Windows98... But it just won't let me do custom refresh rates

[@RetroGamingBase]

Oh yeah! Under windows 98 you need 3rd party software for that. It can’t do it otherwise

[@Pulverrostmannen]

@@RetroGamingBase which one would you recommend to use if you want to override your screen with 98? I can’t really figure out which to use and I lost the one I used in the past that worked for me so I am stuck with the native speed now

[@imribiy]

Imagine if they kept developing CRT monitors instead

[@RetroGamingBase]

LOL indeed 👍🍻

[@btarg1]

Why did we ever move away from these

[@RetroGamingBase]

That’s a very good question! 👍 A big part was because the industry wanted to sell us new displays and until a few years ago they never mentioned Hz or deep black levels and wanted the majority of gamers to think that that VA panels were black and VN panels were fast with 60Hz 😅

[@damara2268]

because the monitors are huge, shoot radiation at you, often have annoying high pitch sound, cant be large because otherwise wont fit on your PC desk....

[@jsr734]

@@damara2268 They fit on my pc desk back in the day. And they will fit on my desk right now, i have plenty of empty space behind my lcd monitor been wasted by air and dust.

[@jsr734]

Because people wanted bigger screens and newer generations had something against lifting heavy stuff, they complained that their pedicure was ruined. 😘

[@RetroGamingBase]

@@jsr734 best explain ever 👍

[@laylarodriguez1710]

Das ist good job 📺

[@RetroGamingBase]

Danke 🍻

[@jskilabe5986]

can you try to get an AMD GPU, rx500 series or older? then try doing interlacing. or even do interlacing on an older nvidia gpu(10series or older) but that's a bit difficult to do but it's doable. AMD is way way way easier to do though. I don't think you can double your refresh but it could make some refresh rates viable like 360Hz, because you can run it at 640x480

[@Tanmay0607]

that's actually insane

[@Offsettttt]

I wonder what games can you play now at 700 fps )) Most have limitations in game engine, but I think Doom 2016 can reach up to 1000 fps if you have hardware for it.

[@RetroGamingBase]

Oh yeah there are some games that can do it and I think you are right, Doom 2016 is one of them 👍

[@fb39ca4]

Minecraft classic

[@guestc142]

Quake 1

[@De-M-oN]

Ich hatte mal einen 17" CRT. Der konnte aber nur 85hz. Aber kurioserweise mit dem einen bestimmten Nvidia Treiber hat 100hz funktioniert. Schön. Smooth und nach einer langen gaming session über mehrere stunden keine Kopfschmerzen mehr. Nach ungefähr einem halben Jahr zitterte das Bild ein bisschen, aber nichts weiter bei gedacht erstmal Nach einem 3/4 Jahr: Urplötzlich ein weißer Punkt in der Mitte der nach paar Sekunden dann auch weg war. Ich: Ach deswegen stand auf den Specs von diesem Monitor nur 85 statt 100hz 🤣

[@whoa3293]

Windows 11 22H2+ are the only versions of Windows where you are able to go over 500 hz. It was previously not capable.

[@RetroGamingBase]

Good to know! 👍 yeah I thought, that I will need 3rd party software for anything on older windows

[@CsiklosMiklos]

Can you go higher resolution if you lower the color depth from 32bpp to 16 or even 8bpp?

[@RetroGamingBase]

Nope, that has nothing to do with the total clock or the KHz. It only depends on resolution and refresh rate. But good idea and thought nevertheless 🍻

[@kozekistudio]

we should get optimum to test this

[@RetroGamingBase]

Hell yeah

[@manuelortega5035]

@@RetroGamingBase seriously not. Hes paid shill.

[@adaptiveaussie2216]

All that will do is make CRT's even harder to find

[@eutiger4789]

700hz on crt is equivalen to like 15000hz on lcd in terms of motion clarity

[@RetroGamingBase]

Hell yeah! As a CRT enthusiast I like your thinking 🍻👍

[@oleksandrrogozhnikov5525]

Cool experiment! Never expected to CRT monitors be THAT fast) P.s. Mechwarrior 4 music on the background🤖)0))

[@RetroGamingBase]

Thanks! And hell yeah! Nice recognition, fellow Mechwarrior 😅👍

[@TheLittleCuteThing]

Iv had a 600hz plasma for the last 12 years

[@RetroGamingBase]

I love plasma TVs and I use them instead of OLEDs 👍 The new ones with 600Hz or even 3000Hz (like mine) are in reality only 60Hz. It’s just a technique they use to make the picture faster but it’s not true Hz like here or on modern gaming Monitors, sadly…. Plasmas are still faster than modern gaming monitors though because of the technology they use to produce picture. They are only slower than CRTs but faster than everything else

[@TheLittleCuteThing]

@@RetroGamingBase I love my plasma babies ;_;

[@vianaalimentar1663]

What software is that to do custom resolution ?

[@jpedrothejo]

what app do u use

[@RetroGamingBase]

Nvidia Display driver if you meant that. I don’t use CRU

[@jpedrothejo]

@@RetroGamingBase ah

[@Lukas-kg1px]

Hey! Could you guys update the Discord invite link?

[@RetroGamingBase]

Is fixed now I think 🍻

[@Lukas-kg1px]

@@RetroGamingBase thanks!

[@kyiscray]

I have those same computer speakers I think (yamaha yst-m15)

[@RetroGamingBase]

Haha awesome! They are my original speakers from the late 90s 👍

[@kyiscray]

@@RetroGamingBase my dad gave them to me when I was a lot younger for my pc

[@twwix0o]

"yeah i got 700hz monitor at home" at home:

[@MikeleKonstantyFiedorowiczIV]

so if you set lower resolution you can overclock higher hz?

[@RetroGamingBase]

Yea thats how it works 👍

[@MikeleKonstantyFiedorowiczIV]

@@RetroGamingBase lol i did know it works like this, i try it on my eizo cause all i can do is from 60 to 62hz xd

[@RetroGamingBase]

@@MikeleKonstantyFiedorowiczIV oh? What Eizo do you have? Even 17“ screens should do 140Hz or more at low resolutions

[@MikeleKonstantyFiedorowiczIV]

@@RetroGamingBase 24" all i can do is 70 hz on lowest resolution but it dont work good, so 62hz is best at 1920x1200.

[@Vladislav_6335]

Now try to break the 1000 Hz barrier on this monitor by setting it to an even lower resolution, where the width is even lower than 200 pixels.

[@zuffin1864]

Digital foundry should be bold and show us 1000 hz on their monitor

[@xnyte]

Yeah but how’s the Wattage?

[@Dave_90lg]

Damn and I thought my nokia 445xi plus doing 298Hz was crazy

[@jamescampbell8482]

You really need to be careful that you don't accidentally pop some of the components in there. These weren't designed to run at that super high refresh rate and if some of the ICs pop, you're very rare and probably expensive CRT is dead. So just keep that in mind

[@RetroGamingBase]

Yeah amen to that and thanks for your comment! 😊 This is exactly why I won’t try to do this for longer on that beauty. If I find one that is worn out or maybe scratched or so, then I would test more 😀

[@ricarnuninho80]

Yeah. 👍 If you ignore the vertical frequency limited (*official* specs) for safe, you can damage CRT. I won't try higher than 161Hz avoid any risk of CRT damaged because my Samtron 19" has official maximum 160Hz. 🤗

[@jamescampbell8482]

@@RetroGamingBase When I saw it was an Ilyama you were doing this with, I was intrigued, for science, but I winced lol

[@_marqu_8650]

Im still waiting for you to try interlaced resolutions, you will at least get more usable resolution this way haha Anyways, this CRT is crazy, i would love to have similar one, i'll play Minecraft on 500Hz hahah

[@RetroGamingBase]

Haha yeah I know! Interlaced is next on the agenda and of the ideas to make this much refresh rate useful for gaming!

[@proyasin1504]

Do you know the manufacturer of the tube?

[@piked86]

Very straight to the point video. Not that i like alot of padding but you could have fleshed it out a bit.

[@RetroGamingBase]

Thanks 🍻 and yeah you are right but personally I also often hate watching videos that could be 2 minutes stretched to 8 minutes because that’s what KZbin favours or something 😅

[@GamersErdemYT]

display port scart dönüştürücüsünü almalıydım

[@DiskonUndawn]

the best thing about CRT is, whatever LOWER resolution than native did you use, it looks great. you dont need that "DLSS / FSR" thing to make it looks better on lower resolution. I got sony trinitron 1920x1200 and benQ lcd FHD monitor, at native resolution, LCD win, its crispier color, but lower resolution, lets say 1280x900 on sony, and 1280x720 on benQ lcd, the sony win!! even the benQ using FSR/DLSS super resolution, the CRT one still better picture dont know why

[@GabryTFXTM]

Them working to 1000Hz RN ☠️

[@mikafoxx2717]

Blur busters 1000hz approved?

[@myravied7965]

Hi, are you german?) I can kinda hear that

[@Sherolox]

I feel as though German people have acquired a sixth sense for hearing out other native German speakers.

[@modology]

Please do interlace mode ... you can easily get more than 1000hz

[@RetroGamingBase]

Hey thanks! That’s something that I will do next, also 👍

[@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx]

@@RetroGamingBase DO IT it'll be great marketing for CRTs might even bring them back 😎

[@RetroGamingBase]

@@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx haha that would be to good to be true 😅👍 A modern CRT like the FW900 would blow everything away… Maybe 32“ with 16:10 would be a nice format