Can Woohoojin Get Radiant Again!? (Gameplay Analysis)

[@bwoops]

It’s really funny, when I watch woohoojin I think to myself (wow his comms are so much better than mine) and when I watch this you point out so many valid errors in his communication style. I hope woohoojin finds this video and is able to improve on himself quicker, as it can be hard to find all these mistakes on your own, you always need someone to peer review your work! Thank you for providing a perspective most people will often overlook!

[@w0rthytv]

It happens to me too it's just lack of play time, you freeze up I believe he will come back strong and fast assuming he's done it before

[@betendeberta1126]

The start definitly should go well, because we know he definitly has hit immortal 3 on his own before, because i dont belive he got boosted this many times. And also he already hit immortal 3 duoQd with raze, playing on only two days a week. Obviosly the immo 3 was kinda inflated by his duo but you still need to be somewhat decent not to be an entire troll in those lobbys. I belive in the bananna

[@Dinmc123]

In vods review of the other's person, he usually knows about those communication but when he plays the game, he doesn't use them constantly

[@abdelrahmanelnajar9639]

20:26 "Success is bread". Wiser words have never been said.

[@w0rthytv]

Rye Bread to be exact

[@sondo301_]

Really nice breakdown. I don't doubt that he can reach radiant eventually but he has some work to do. He has poor communication and ignores the principles he teaches. Don't make solo hero plays, swing with your teammate, using utility effectively.

[@hafizshapiee]

yooo its sondo!

[@sondo301_]

@@hafizshapieeHey what's up man!

[@hafizshapiee]

@@sondo301_ doing great coach! Your content help me a lot as a casual player. You guys are awesome, Mr. Sondo and Mr. w0rthyTV are awesome! 🙂👍👍

[@hafizshapiee]

@@sondo301_ doing great coach! Both of you guys are awesome! Keep up the good work!🙂👍👍

[@isucktrustme8672]

🤓 you know people are coaches for a reason? Its easy to come up with things someone should do on a vod rather than think on the spot himself. Thats what he has said. I can tell you dont know much but still

[@nikkiagostino]

Yes 🙌🏼 the part two of game play analysis we all wanted to see 👏🏼👏🏼🤩

[@yone3249]

Feel like he went autopilot on this game like "me raze, me satchel in site"

[@lunar7240]

dont say that cringe jollz shi ever again

[@TechSupportDave]

Yeah he's just not really trying either. I hope this changes since his reputation is on the line here. Charlatan has said it himself - all he needs to do is just hit Radiant on his own now. But last time I checked, it didn't even seem like he's even trying to improve. He doesn't even seem to VOD-review his own gameplay, ironically.

[@Uliusjay]

@@TechSupportDavehe has dopai, a radiant player and coach review his games twice a week starting yesterday

[@gimmethatquan5309]

Woah, my two favorite coaches in one video. Love to see it! Great video!

[@SerChiang]

I really wonder if he could hit radiant. I don't doubt his understanding of the game (I'd rank it low-mid immortal lvl), but there's a huge difference in what you know and applying it to your game. And it's much easier to look at a game from a third perspective and teach it rather than playing at the same level. I've seen a few games from Woohoojin at different time periods and he seems like an ascendant-low immortal player right now. Although I will say, he puts a lot of time into this game as it is his job, so he should be able to hit radiant. I would personally like to watch him climb with a fresh account, which could be nice content but o well.

[@anonymousbison5451]

Why with a fresh account? Do you think it would make it more entertaining?

[@SerChiang]

@@anonymousbison5451 yes, and I think it showcases his strength more, without his current hidden mmr. Continue to climb without the reliance of strong teammates but based off of his communication and individual skills. It's only been a day though so we'll probably see more games of him applying what he says as a coach. And I'm more interested in that because most people who can hit high immortal can hit radiant. They just need to keep playing.

[@caminhaodelixo2]

I'm actually positive 50% of radiants are below his level of general game knowledge, but they're very much above him mechanically, on specific agent/micro knowledge and fast decision making

[@SerChiang]

@@caminhaodelixo2 Radiant players in general are better than him in all individual skill imo. Game knowledge, idk but he consumes Valorant content all the time so I guess so. But he's pretty average I'd say. Which is fine because he helps mostly diamonds and below. Keeping things simple is very important too because like Curry (consistent rank 1 val player), keeping things simple is the best in ranked. But I've never seen him really show off any plays or whatever that stands out. It's all just simple average gameplay. Woohoojin skill level can reach the bottom tier of radiants, so like 20% of radiants are below or at the same level of general game knowledge. This is all just my opinion tho. *I'm saying this all because he sells himoff as top tier IGL, one of the biggest brain in val. Makes sense cuz it's a job, but that always annoyed me cuz I never get that from him.

[@itzalfi]

I enjoy watching him play. He likely knows what the right play is but in the moment he is not quick enough to acknowledge it. Good to see the “expert” struggle like the rest of us. Keep these videos coming. Love the outside perspective.

[@quickfingers7062]

Update: milestone 1 hit, he’s currently immortal.

[@ValTips00]

Wait it ended to abruptly I was not ready for that

[@w0rthytv]

Haha sorry about that I have another one on the edit

[@otysafiry]

I watched him yesterday and I really feel like he needs to take some of his own advice sometimes. There were times I wanted to yell at him like on Ascent he got 2 outside of tree then tried to push when he had numbers and ended up getting swung and killed from tiles and ended up losing the round. Hopefully he reviews his VODs and see stuff like that since he's focusing on grinding now. Like this VOD. 5:20 he would have yelled at a student for doing the same thing. He could really maybe use someone outside looking at his VODs with just general rules. I know Dopai is gonna be looking at his VODs, but I think someone like You or his old coach Charla7on would be a good idea.

[@otysafiry]

OH WAIT! I remember this match....That Fade was super tilted. He tried making a play he had made with Reyna a few times and gotten multiple kills and he just told him to screw off basically, lol.

[@w0rthytv]

yeah I talk about it at the end

[@omarabdillah4722]

I think the issue is that dopai just gives feedback on his raze(agent specific stuff) and rarely anything outside of that

[@otysafiry]

@@omarabdillah4722 Yeah, it's why I think he needs some general advice on his gameplay from a coach like w0rthy, OD26, or Charlatan. Stuff Hooj knows, but he may not look at it the same way within his own vods as he would one of his students.

[@ennisstephen]

He knows this is a bad play. He is chasing kd because he's going negative in an ascendant lobby. It is not a good look because he had (falsely) claimed to be a top 150 radiant. A actual top 150 radiant would be stomping these guys like it's unrated.

[@nathanhollow0]

been almost a month and he's back to where he's started. he did say he was limited to 4 games a day by dopai but he played 6 games the other day. i don't really think he taking it that seriously if he's not listening to dopai seriously

[@NakenDrake]

While watching the first video i was a bit skeptical but your points do make sense but in his defense we will also have to look at his Smokes gamesplay since he is a smokes main

[@cinqone]

He is only playing raze

[@w0rthytv]

I'll be happy to review his earlier omen videos

[@superhammie17]

great video and clear about what WHJ needs to work on!!

[@gray-sama1111]

I just wanted to take a moment to appreciate Hiko for always being polite and respectful in his videos. His positive and kind demeanor creates a welcoming and enjoyable atmosphere for the viewers. from India

[@w0rthytv]

Thanks my friend, welcome to the hiko nation

[@gytzero]

actually very good insights man, new sub

[@Thekorcla]

I think if hooj really takes his time and is laser focused on his gameplay and what he wants to do he could make those radiant level decisions, however I feel like he kinda goes on autopilot due to queuing for hours on end. Obviously not ideal for climbing ranks, but he is a streamer first

[@HighlyShifty]

Loving the whj to radiant series

[@w0rthytv]

ton of fun to watch, make, and be part of

[@plantfriendx]

Really solid video, learnt a lot.

[@championcspr]

i want woohoojin to react to this

[@ieatchoclates2477]

wow.. really good breakdown.

[@Swordboypat]

first flaw in the anylsis is hooj is raze only to radiant

[@w0rthytv]

Why is this a flaw?

[@holmster]

Personally I think he will prove the haters wrong. He is already immo 1 68rr, and he is absolutely frying in ranked. I believe he can hit radiant by the end of the episode for sure.

[@neakylol]

wym again he never did to begin with :( sadge

[@yeshuaobi2628]

Man I can only play 2 games, 3 tops. After that I just get dizzy

[@ariseal]

same

[@w0rthytv]

Its so much honestly maybe when I was a kid I could do that haha

[@Szystedt]

I can only keep up focus for half a game max 😭 It’s genuinely kinda frustrating, but I guess kinda being able to focus at all is a huge improvement hah (recovering from exhaustion syndrome after a complete burnout and mental collapse)

[@Jason.1230]

why does the video cut off at the end like that lmao

[@w0rthytv]

Honestly I totally forgot to include the outro its all good though thanks for watching till the end haah

[@Jason.1230]

@@w0rthytv ofc lol, love ur vids!

[@Jtowchi]

Coach gets coached?

[@omaewamoshindeiru]

bait me is a free trade? No. i said that much much time as a clove and my team wont even trade or listen. well i guess my rank is so low everybody got their things going on.

[@akil_ahnaf4543]

How did you instantly know it was a slower comp?

[@w0rthytv]

the nature of the duelists, 1 duelist being raze wants to move in quick, the rest of the comp is slower, reyna cant take space fast and the other 3 cant support a fast moving raze. Because of that the site hits or retakes will always be disjointed and you'll see hooj constantly being isolated without the support of a flash

[@joe2578]

No flashes to support going fast :breach skye ,omen?

[@insertnamehere9180]

16:55 this made me wonder. Do you still have to play many games? I'm sure I'd watch someone vod review themselves or search up for better pathing, to me queueing over and over will become more dry wouldn't it?

[@UrusaiJoe]

He lacks adaptability, and often seems lost in the map. He's far from radiant. He needs to work on mechanics, mental and timing.

[@RicochetAQW]

Man you sound so goofy you are 100% no higher than plat criticising woohoojins mechanics and adaptability 😭😭. This guy not only has been radiant but also coaches people in radiant 💀.

[@tekatahk8056]

​@RicochetAQW he hasn't reached radiant. That's why he's grinding for it

[@UrusaiJoe]

@@RicochetAQW This is the perception I had watching him playing these days. Making it personal portrays you as someone not worth discussing. And as the other guy said, he never reached radiant.

[@RicochetAQW]

@@UrusaiJoe he's at least coached them to radiant and doesn't spend his time playing ranked anyways cuz coaching is basically his job now. You're acting like he's FAR from radiant when realistically he could prolly hit radiant this act whilst literally only playing one agent solo queuing 💀

[@UrusaiJoe]

@@RicochetAQW Do you realize that's what we are discussing? If he can reach radiant. He said, after all the drama, that he will focus on ranked to reach that rank. Nobody is questioning his coaching here.

[@willhenry2567]

16:05 He probably tried to use a satchel to break trip before nading backsite. So he messed that up. He’s not that dumb

[@w0rthytv]

He threw the satchel behind himself my friend

[@mxrtino1661]

Well he may just be that dumb because he didn’t even try to break trip with the satchel.

[@willhenry2567]

@@mxrtino1661 oh did you see the full video before the vid cuts to it? When we see him nade backsite, he has one satchel no?

[@jjgames6934]

Woohoojin hit immo 1 today :D

[@w0rthytv]

That's awesome I'm excited for him looking forward to making more of these videos as he makes his way up

[@Flovervlr]

Again? He never even hit it the first time 💀

[@mattgehringer8554]

Been watching his streams, he isn’t nearly good enough rn, and is somewhat overconfident

[@w0rthytv]

Lack of play time does that I'm a victim of that as well

[@alexchessman]

Obv he doesnt have bird's eye view of the game, its so much easier to look at someone and point out their mistakes and claim ur a coach but when ure actually playing ur thoughts are clouded and he doesnt even respect his own principles

[@w0rthytv]

Happens a ton when you havent been playing regularly, give him time lets see how he does

[@Tobi21089]

Even in vct finals they do dumb stuff like when demon1 on site with no dash left tries too 1v2 with Jett ult on site...

[@wegotakingwegotaking7827]

Hey this is a random question, but I'm hard stuck plat 1 with 1.17kd 42% hs rate and 170 damage/round under 50% win rate my friend says this is because of my kast being 69.2% is that true? Should I try to improve it

[@sniffyowo]

you are looking too much at stats lol

[@wegotakingwegotaking7827]

@@sniffyowo they do matter also i have a kast of 78% i learned thats important

[@sniffyowo]

@@wegotakingwegotaking7827 overanalyzing stats does nothing to improve, there could be players with worse stats than you that are significantly better

[@wegotakingwegotaking7827]

@@sniffyowo I don't overanalyze them, I'm saying that I'm a match mvp every game I play with like 7 first bloods each time (I'm a duelist player) and I've never met a person with worse stats that's better than me

[@sniffyowo]

@@wegotakingwegotaking7827 send me your ign i dont believe you, nobody is hard stuck mvping every game lol

[@knowledge4448]

u were a pro? did you play professional valorant and if so on what team?

[@w0rthytv]

I played with the beginnings of faze clan back in beta, they didnt form the team up and they ended up picking up the sponsor and OW players

[@w0rthytv]

I never made money off valorant short of my coaching content so never officially pro, just scrimming with the 1st generation of pros

[@shreyansh5876]

he reached immortal today

[@w0rthytv]

Thats awesome

[@helloimuzumakikira1]

I am fast for once!

[@w0rthytv]

thank you for being here

[@helloimuzumakikira1]

@@w0rthytv Your welcome! You make amazing coaching videos which really elevate my gamesense of the game and getting the right mental approach when playing valorant. The point about queue no more than 5 comp matches in this video and training aim and mechanic and vod review the rest of the time really stuck with me here. I was wondering whether my valorant routine was appropriate. I do aimlabs training first (the woohoojin aimlabs training practice which is 30mins long with breaks he mentioned), then I do deadzoning and movement practice in the practice mode (due to me getting very rusty when not playing for 3 months). Then I play some deathmatches to get ready and queue up competitve until I feel tired. I am gold 1 just now and my MMR rank is very high at plat 1. Is my valorant preparatory routine good or is there things I should add or change in this routine to improve in the game most efficiently?

[@g.l.rgaming6369]

Isnt this the guy who got boosted to radiant? Why would you be helping him? Hello??

[@payloinfinite3435]

Again? This implies he's hit radiant before. Do we have proof he's hit radiant? If not, default is he's not. Especially since he said he isn't on his raze acct

[@w0rthytv]

I'm giving him benefit of the doubt with the title :)

[@payloinfinite3435]

@@w0rthytv fair enough. But it implies otherwise and clarification came via reply of a post. It's disingenuous, and I don't believe that's an inaccurate way if looking at it

[@w0rthytv]

​@@payloinfinite3435 thank you for the concern appreciate you my friend

[@joe2578]

Yo spam the big bannana

[@playhaway]

Again?? You mean for the first time 🤣🤣🤣

[@gamerknight1615]

Why is woohojin getting coached he is better already right radiant iguess

[@mxrtino1661]

He is not radiant😂

[@kieranyaffe98]

Again?

[@befil3621]

u cant

[@KamySpammy]

13:18 HER smoke?

[@schwerzeli]

Bro shut up

[@w0rthytv]

Oops their smoke my apologies

[@KamySpammy]

@@w0rthytv thats a girl tho no?

[@slimyboyit806]

A coach getting coached is crazy

[@gimmethatquan5309]

It’s just another persons insight. It’s like having someone review your first or second draft of a paper. You could learn a lot more from bouncing ideas from one another

[@gimmethatquan5309]

But yeah… kinda cool to see my 2 favorite coaches in one video😆

[@hextorm2]

no its not.. you are just dumb, just like the previous reply explained, its actually called constructive criticism, it helps a lot

[@nathanhollow0]

It's what happens when a doctor get's treated by another doctor

[@generaljod4971]

@woohoojin