Can You Be Racist To White People?

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[@Toast-by5wu]

How about Jason Statham playing Shaft?

[@piotrswat169]

Ann Boleyn was black.Granny told me must be true.

[@pokejuice1495]

Lol. I see you. Let us get one!

[@sigsaucer2582]

I want Micheal Cera as shaft, like Donald Glover said.

[@KamiNoBaka1]

You know, I'd actually watch a Cockney version of Shaft. That would be entertaining.

[@jakejager]

It'd be a great comedy...

[@Mystra]

I hate the term "reverse racism" that's not a thing. Racism is just racism.

[@almostyummymummy]

Just as bad as reverse psychology. No such thing exists.

[@Mystra]

@AlmostYummyMummy I wouldn't say just as bad. Because reverse racism is only used when someone is racist towards white people, which implies it's different and not so bad. It actually is racist to use that term against white people.

[@BigBarbrady]

​@AlmostYummyMummy reverse psychology 100% is a technique designed to get a desired outcome. Where did you get that it doesn't exist

[@phoenixDARKprince]

@@almostyummymummy No...Just no. Reverse psychology is definitely a technique that people use, especially those in the field of psychology.

[@phoenixDARKprince]

Reverse racism is when you are racist against your own race.

[@BrandyRoseWines]

How about we just treat everyone with respect? And learn from history so we can stop repeating it?

[@crustybomb115]

youre talking about people who want perpetual victimhood status... you cant have that kind of thing if everyones either respected or equal. i find myself repeating this to people nowadays: you cant rationalize with irrational people.

[@dylanmiller3962]

We can't learn from history because people don't know how to people like Thomas who have been studying it for their entire life will state historical fact and show evidence and then people like this reactor Lloyd will say oh well even though he's dedicated his entire life to studying this stuff he only tells 35% of the story therefore what he saying is inaccurate or incorrect there for nobody will learn from the history that Thomas teachers because of people like Lloyd who just claimed that he doesn't tell the whole story or the whole truth because it's not one he likes

[@pugowner1347]

@@dylanmiller3962 That's why I don't subscribe to him. He does interesting things but he is a bit biased.

[@rimbusjift7575]

​@@dylanmiller3962 Totally coherent.

[@Miss_Distress]

Good luck learning from history, if history stops being taught in schools

[@AaronLitz]

The attempted redefinition of racism as "discrimination+power" is a horrific way to make racism acceptable as long as it is "aimed at the right target." It's all _bigotry,_ which is the word we actually need to start using. Since so many people are trying to twist the meaning of racism, we need to just start calling it what it is; I don't think anyone would argue that bigotry is OK, and racism is bigotry.

[@JakeKoenig]

Not to mention, the people they claim are "in power" (white people) aren't actually in power. What kind of white supremacist country would allow anti-white bigotry to be openly and constantly spread by literally anyone? If anything, America is a black supremacist nation, a Jewish supremacist nation, and an LGBTQ supremacist nation. THOSE are the people you're not even allowed to criticize, much less be bigoted toward, without severe repercussions.

[@j.p.8811]

Well said.

[@jaytaylor9232]

The conflation of racism and institutional racism, classic leftist redefining of language.

[@jamesticknor1134]

10 years ago. I could honestly say I never experienced racism because of my white skin. Today, I cannot say that. I experience it on a regular basis.

[@shawnvofficial]

Seriously 100% and as a white male it's "inappropriate" to even defend ourselves, it's considered "racist." I treat everyone I meet with respect, and I don't judge people based on their skin color. Equality does not mean "spread the hate around," but that's what's happening now. If you need to hate on anyone, hate the rich, not that that's ok either, but at least it makes more sense. My great grandparents were poor polish immigrants. They came over just before WW1. My family didn't have anything to do with the American slave trade. I've been poor my whole life, and the only thing my "white privilege" ever amounted to was getting turned down for government assistance when I truly needed it. I don't resort to hating people that weren't turned down, it's not their fault, I hate the fundamentally flawed system we all live under. The world's not right, and more hate isn't gonna fix it

[@Zennethe]

The old and bitter trick the young and stupid into fighting a war that they aren't even invested in. And within a generation nobody understands why the fighting began but they blindly follow by tradition.

[@jacobfromallstate4963]

It feels like it's okay and justified for people to be openly racist toward whites. When you question it the response you get is basically "well, now you know how it feels" like the entire white race needs to be punished. Smh

[@crypto9040]

I thought it was only in Texas for a sec, thanks for reassuring me

[@Binahx86]

@@shawnvofficial If hating the rich makes sense, hating white people makes sense too because most got rich by racial oppression, and many blacks are poor because of racial oppression by whites.

[@tee4222]

It’s very simple. Racism isn’t the same thing as oppression. Racial oppression can exist and it’s both racist AND oppressive. Redefining “racism” to mean “racial oppression” doesn’t add any utility to the language. It actually detracts from the utility and only serves to excuse racism against whites as acceptable. We have a perfectly effective and concise language to describe all of these ideas without redesigning the wheel.

[@dickdyke-kp7xj]

*applause*

[@delivererofdarknessshoguno1133]

To be able to justify racism against the "correct" people is exactly why they are mixing racism with opression.

[@LadyVineXIII]

This is perfectly worded.

[@hanjesse31]

Well... America has change the definition of womanhood

[@Keyboardje]

That's exactly what the Woke activist ARE doing to languages all over the world.

[@notscullytv]

21:07 personally I can’t stand race swapping in fiction, and not because of the act but the reasoning for the act. I see all these woke black ppl praising Disney for hiring a black person to play a role that was always a white person instead of putting the effort in to acc create a new compelling “minority” character. It’s just so idiotic to me that they get praise for doing the BARE minimum and now racism is solved like have so self respect you deserve better

[@theplumcore2170]

Honestly it reminds me of the "token chick" in cartoons in the 80s and 90s, where you would get a virtually copy cat character of the male lead, but female...and she had to be pink. They tried to do that with Xena, as a counterpart to Hercules, but luckily the writing and the actors made the show its own thing, that in my opinion ended up being far far superior to the Hercules show. Because she ended up being her own story and character. Give us those black legends, stories, myths, histories, id personally LOVE to explore them, especially since those stories contribute to who a people are.

[@hadesrecordofragnarok]

It’s not even the companies that do it too, I see people editing popular characters skin color in fiction for no reason and they say “I fixed them.” Then when you ask them why they did that most of the time they will call you racist, they say “blasians exists so it’s okay.” 🤦

[@avostorm8111]

It's crazy because there is a few kid shows that I have noticed on I think PBS. I can't remember the name of them but one of them is about a girl in Alaska and she is of native decent and the other is a Latino girl who has a group of friends of all colors and religions. They are both done correctly and honestly it's better than any race swapping crap Disney puts out.

[@MrShalvayez]

I was a poor white boy, living in an Independent Living structure when I was a teen, and my upstairs neighbor was the cool black guy who took me under his wing, protected me, treated me like his son. We'd smoke weed together, he'd have me over for BBQs (My introduction to soul food.. yum!), and bought me a carton of Kools a week and made sure I was eating and doing well. He was my first mentor. My second mentor was an older black man who grew up in Jim Crow North Carolina, he saw me making mistakes that were gonna land me in prison, took me under his wing, taught me how to play chess, and how to use that skill to make other decisions. Love both those guys. They did for me what my biological father did not.

[@cannabotany]

I am pasty white, i havent experienced racism that i know of, but the current climate has made me afraid to appreciate the beauty of people of color, or even look at them in public spaces because i am afraid that i will come across as a racist or karen to them and it will ruin everyone's day. This makes me sad because i grew up in a really white area and i want to meet people and learn, but i dont want to be a bad experience for somebody. Have a wonderful day anyone reading this!

[@axolottle]

yes i have the same thought

[@hailee1001]

honestly you shouldn’t worry about looking at someone, avoiding looking/interacting with a POC would just make you look weirder tbh.., like i can understand why you’d be abit worried, you haven’t been brought up around different races and cultures ect so you might not know how to act BUT that’s the thing, you act/talk like you always would🤷🏻‍♀️ and *if* that comes off as racist or a karen to them (or anyone)… most likely is

[@cannabotany]

@hailee1001 thank you for that, will try. Part of my issue is I am autistic and that makes me seem ridiculously awkward in social situations, and even more so if I'm nervous. I am working on just embracing the awkward because that seems to help with most people. I hope you have a wonderful day!

[@LadyVineXIII]

@hailee1001 I wish this was always the case, but when I ask many questions, even though I am asking them in an attempt to reduce my own ignorance, it is always taken as some sort of attack or othering. I have also attempted to compliment someone on their hair or their skin tone and have been given hate in response. There is no benefit of the doubt and no quarter given for just not knowing. A simple slip of the toungue or misunderstanding can result in a full-on diatribe about racism and bigotry. That makes it a lot harder to reach out and make those connections. Especially if you are already nervous to begin with. "Just don't ask" leads to more ignorance and misunderstandings, not less.

[@cannabotany]

@LadyVineXIII yes! I don't know how to ask in a way that doesn't trigger something maybe. I have been caught with trying to compliment the articulate nature of a black person, NOW I know why that is seen as bad, but at the time I was just struck with how wonderfully they conveyed a complicated point, because most people I meet are rather sloppy with words ( I still live in a white area- so most people I meet are white)

[@Jonas_æ]

My two cents is that racism doesn’t make sense. If you don’t know someone, you don’t know them. You can’t judge someone’s character by their skin-tone, let alone blame them for the actions of other people who share a physical trait. Treat people as individuals and not some sort of racial group representative. We’re all just people, and we are our own person. You can probably learn more about a person by their shoes than the color of the feet that wear them.

[@thecaretaker812]

Humans have a natural hardwired tendency towards tribalism. This can be seen in all societies across the world through all of recorded history. While this is often played out in the world through racism (the most visually obvious difference), it also plays out through sectarianism and classism where race is less important. These issues will very likely stay with us forever. Education and open dialogue is our best defense against the worst of these tendencies.

[@pdxtom]

@@thecaretaker812 You are 100% correct! I do not focus on race or any external factor...people either behave decently or they don't. Saying we need to "overcome racisim" is like saying we need to "overcome people being mean"...group-think and tribalism comes very naturally to the human animal and it ALWAYS will. You need to address each situation on it's own but as long as one imagines they can end negative traits of the human race they will always lose.

[@alkaliwreck2474]

Racism is illogical, not irrational. Our brains are lazy an instinctively develop biases on pattern recognition. For instance, most public doors open-out because of fire codes, so we generally assume to push a door to leave and it's mildly annoying when you have to pull it open to leave. It's rational because, typically, people don't change their location often, which is closely tied to culture and phenotype. It's illogical because we know culture is shared beliefs, values, and traditions, and is not inherent to skin tone (UK vs US culture). Our primitive brains don't reflect the modern reality that people can move around the globe quickly and integrate into other cultures and tribes.

[@shardinhand1243]

@@pdxtom your reasoning is deeply flawed, instincts like tribalisim arint so valuable to humanity they arint replacable, humanity has advanced slowly but continualy... is it such a shock that we may one day chose new instincts better suited for our modern lifes... heres an example... your instinct to think every rustle of leafes around you in a park is a tigar getting ready to attack you... is suprizingly.. completly worthless to you... wanna know why? becuase instincts like organs can become outdated, lose theyre needed practical use... you shouldint cherish an outdated worthless or in this case harmful instinct.

[@theartisticvampire2598]

Like Daryl Davis said " How can you hate me when you don't even know ME?"

[@ingiford175]

One thing that scared me in school is when a group of people would hammer on one of their own, because they were 'acting white' because they were trying to study and get ahead.

[@kagesong]

I saw this a lot from kids I knew from Kansas City (I'm from a smaller town nearby). I never understood it. I mean, If we have group a, and group b, and all the members of group b tell one member that they can't be successful because success is a group a trait, then they are preventing success themselves for group b, without the need for group a to be involved.

[@cycleboy8028]

@@kagesong It's the "crabs at the bottom of the bucket pulling down those that are trying to escape". It's a type of fear and self-loathing. Not wanting one similar to themselves to succeed because that just points out that it is their own issues/inability that is keeping them down... not the dreaded "man".

[@kagesong]

@@cycleboy8028 I think that's quite a way to word that, but I think I take your meaning and pretty much agree

[@jamesbosworth4191]

As much as I hate to admit it, this is way too common. It started in the late 60s, from what saw and lived with, and was an outgrowth of the "counterculture" attitude of the late 60s, and soon became a statement of rebellion among the young. Wish it would go away.

[@jamesbosworth4191]

@@kagesong They are not deliberately telling each other that they can't be successful, they think they are rebelling against group A. In reality though, they are playing right into group A's hand.

[@sipkestorm4050]

I think the main problem is tribalism. People will always find a problem with someone who they don't consider part of their group. The issue can be skin color/ethnicity, but it can also be different religions or different denominations of the same religion, or someone could support a different football team and that's a reason to feel animosity towards that person, as a kid I got made fun of for wearing glasses etc.. To sum it all up: some people are just a**holes

[@jamesbosworth4191]

Great point, but when adults practice it, and one group is much larger than the other, the effects on the smaller group can be devastating. That's why there has to be laws that ban certain practices, and even those laws are often side-stepped.

[@makeupgirl8886]

Just treat every person the way you want to be treated no matter what. Nothing else needs to be said.

[@oscillatorstorm]

The GOLDEN RULE😘

[@tinawindham6958]

Some people were not raised that way. They’ve never heard “if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all

[@wjadam024]

racism starts at home

[@quinceykirkland1227]

My parents were old school slightly as racist as most of the country back then, they still taught me not to be, so when I went to school I tried to be friends with everybody. Didn't always work because too many kids ( of all races ) were still racist. I got picked on by the black kids and started hating them because they hated me! See how stupid it gets!

[@fedoramcclaren4294]

I concur...

[@yaB0i_Hawkx]

​@@fedoramcclaren4294what they mean is kids aren't racist, but they learn the intolerance from their parents

[@fedoramcclaren4294]

@@yaB0i_Hawkx That is what I figured it meant, so I concur...

[@Oddballkane]

Yes, I'm a midwife. I've never once heard a baby spout hateful stuff when they are born. It's true. it's taught.

[@Infierno4551]

I remember being told I can't experience racism because I'm white, but at the same time I'm not really white because I'm Puerto Rican.

[@TheAlmaward]

Sorry, but "Puerto Rican" (or even just generally hispanic) is not a race. Hispanic is a cultural distinction. There are hispanic people of all 3 races (white/caucasian, black, Asian).

[@Infierno4551]

@@TheAlmaward tell that to the white guy who said to me.

[@TheAlmaward]

@@Infierno4551 Happy to.

[@LadyVineXIII]

@TheAlmaward It's like when people say that someone is racist against Muslims. That's religionist instead of racist technically, but the end result is the same. You are still detrimentally discriminating against a vast and complex group of people based solely on a stereotype or a few known individuals instead of taking each based on their own character. Stereotypes should be left to comedy troupes and not applied to individuals.

[@TheAlmaward]

@@LadyVineXIII No, *I* am not discriminating against *anyone*. I am simply pointing out the semantic FACT that there are three races, white/caucasian, black, and Asian, and everything else is either cultural or religious. There are Jews of every race, there are hispanics of every race. Being Puerto Rican is not a racial distinction, it's a geographical and cultural one.

[@coyotetheoriginal]

I'm white and experienced racism for the first time when I was nine. It was a group of black teens treating me like shit because I was white. My family also is a bit racist (yet we have a lot of mixed relatives), but I have no issues with race, slurs don't mean anything to me. What does is if you're maliciously attacking another race. I'm surprised I didn't turn out racist personally tbh.

[@user-el5yw1er2j]

"I had one bad experience and boy are you glad I didn't turn super-racist for it!" Yikes.

[@coyotetheoriginal]

@@user-el5yw1er2j hate creates hate, + I was 9-years-old getting treated like shit for being white. If a certain group of people treats someone who is a child like shit, that child's mind might go "Hmm, that group of people, yeah they're not good people some of them treated me badly." Same way you have Misogynists and Misandrists, they become that way because of bad experiences with the opposite sex.

[@Éga_Fr]

​@@user-el5yw1er2jread the comment again, maybe your brain cells will connect...

[@joshbull623]

​@RhumFr Don't blame him, reading comprehension isn't a big priority in many school systems nowadays.

[@randomhandle111]

@@user-el5yw1er2j Learn reading comprehension

[@MusicallyInclinedful]

As far as the Dilbert creator is concerned, I agree with him 100% and it's the same advice I gave to my sons 35 years ago. I'm a well-traveled 64 year old Black man and my sons are Black. Far too many Blacks are walking around with an unearned chip on their shoulder looking for racism anywhere and everywhere.

[@LadyVineXIII]

People latched onto that final statement out of context and oversimplified the whole argument. On one hand,I can completely understand where he is coming from on a self-preservation point. On the other hand, segregation prevents races from learning about and from one another and leads to worse prejudices and more ignorance in the long run. I would have said "Avoid antagonistic, racist and hostile members of the Black community for your own safety" instead of just "Get The Hell Away From Black People."

[@ahkkariq7406]

@@LadyVineXIII You cannot see what attitudes a person has. As Sami (Indigenous European) I agree with Scott Adams. Here it is the blacks who are hateful. If a large proportion of white people are openly hateful towards blacks - would you be sympathetic to the eventual decision of the blacks to keep their distance or not?

[@lisazaccardimeunier8378]

Systematic racism against the majority is absolutely possible. The most glaring example is aparteid on South Africa. Here in the US, it's legal, and even required, to prioritize black applicants to schools and employment opportunities over white and Asain applicants. That's the very definition of systematic racism.

[@immkk1125]

girl the apartheid was set AGAINST black people what are you talking about? and if you followed the news, you’d know that positive discrimination is getting a lot less common compared to the past few years, but have you ever thought about WHY positive discrimination had to exist in the first place? yeah it’s because without it non white people wouldn’t get jobs or education and employers and other people in positions of power can abuse people however they want depending on their gender, race, appearance and so on. The fact that less and less white people get « less » job opportunities sucks but maybe it’s not because black peoples or whoever else are taking their « rightful » places, it’s because there is a literal JOB SHORTAGE. can you see the difference? cause based on your whiney comment, it sounds like you believe that black people cannot get where they want to be on their own unless they take a white persons place, but let me ask you why is the default « white people deserve their job position/uni admission etc »? why isn’t it « everyone deserves to be where they want to be and the system has to make it possible for everyone to succeed without the need to use discrimination » ?? reflect on that

[@michellehuff1710]

?????? I don’t understand your comment. You do know that affirmative action benefited Shute women. The data is there. Legacy in colleges. Who does that benefit? There is no data supporting that blacks are chosen over whites or Asians. It’s all about equity. Due to systemic racism, I may not have access to resources as you do, so it is intended to help support me in getting into higher education whereas due to racism - I would not be afforded certain opportunities. Apartheid, you do know the history. Blacks were denied opportunities their country. I think for some, any semblance of equity is scary. Your privilege is threatened.

[@Cardinal_claw]

Yep. It's also infantalizing Black and Hispanic people, and leaving them unprepared for the real world Edit, also the fact that the majority of the population of the US is still 'white', it's extra bad.

[@malice926]

7:30 No, they can't, and it's for a very simple reason. Name 2 people who are exactly alike in every measurable way. Nowhere in nature does equality of opportunity lead to the same outcomes. 19:07 So, I have a different take on this, I don't care if the character is race swapped. I care if they are using that as a shield and cudgel to beat down people who call out a movie for being bad. Velma as an example, that show was hot garbage, not because of the race swaps, but because everything was done poorly, and while unsuccessful they attempted to use those race swaps as a shield to protect them from criticism, and a cudgel to attack people who didn't like it.

[@stephaniefarrant]

I get annoyed with race-swaps when it's done to make a point rather than to make the final product the best it can be. For example, Samuel L Jackson as Nick Fury was brilliant. It felt like he was meant for that role. The recent Cleopatra fiasco, by comparison, was cast with race in mind rather than talent, because there was a specific agenda behind it. You can feel when an actor has been cast for political reasons, and it makes it feel like the political thing is more important to the makers than the story they're trying to tell. It's the same with authors when they write. If you read enough, you can tell when an author is writing for money, and when they care about their stories and how they're presenting them.

[@ObIitus]

@@stephaniefarrant Someone with character in mind would be extremely cautious swapping the character' major traits. And appearance is a major trait.

[@mauraleib]

Thank you for being willing to take on this conversation. Our biggest downfall is avoiding talking about this topic because we’re afraid of the discomfort.

[@shawnvofficial]

I mostly agree with you on the movie thing. Changing the race of a marvel character or a cartoon character is fine as long as it doesn't drastically change the story. However, changing the race of a Disney princess seemed wrong though. I know a lot of ginger women that were upset about The Little Mermaid remake. Yes I understand that there's still Merida from brave, but a lot of redheads don't like being viewed as specifically Irish, and people my age didn't grow up with Brave, their kids did. I'm sure a lot of people would be upset with Jasmine being played by a white woman, and rightfully so, so why is it okay the other way around?

[@locoloboxiii]

Wow... so Disney... fantasy has to stay true to it's "tone" but comics, also fake and drawn... don't have to... got ya. This is another issue. Either be fully for, or against the division of people. Oh and a pale person being played by a non pale person? Easy..go back far enough in history and THERE WERE NO PALE PEOPLE.

[@LadyVineXIII]

Perfectly worded. Either we can race swap all main characters to any race, or we can't. There should not be only one race that is subject to this. I also agree that Little Mermaid as the only classic Disney Princess with red hair was the wrong choice. Why was not one of the half dozen blondes picked instead?

[@birdnerd4302]

Also it dosent even make sense for a princess **who is mostly underwater** to have a lot of melon in their skin they are barley in the sun

[@LadyVineXIII]

@birdnerd4302 darkly colored, even black fish do occur. Given that she is a deep ocean dweller, brightly colored or phosphorescent skin actually makes the most sense. Blues, greens, and muddy browns make the most sense if we are going the naturalistic root.

[@birdnerd4302]

I thought it was a mermaid which is half human half fish and not just a fish

[@WhackyRavenLand]

In the words on racism of the great Morgan Freeman: "STOP TALKING ABOUT IT!"

[@LadyVineXIII]

Ignoring a problem does not make it go away. Discussing the problem highlights it and allows us to explore and enact solutions.

[@WhackyRavenLand]

@@LadyVineXIII It's working SOO well thus far. Those of us who want to discuss it are labelled racists. EVERYTHING is about race and it's NOT making things BETTER.

[@LadyVineXIII]

@@WhackyRavenLand It would be beneficial to decouple race from other issues and focus on those. And I am all for having it be a quieter discourse so long as we don't forget and fall back into old habits.

[@darth-hellhound6534]

@@LadyVineXIII His point was to stop dividing people by focusing on the color of their skin, as ultimately it doesn't matter. Differences in culture and economic status are much more dividing factors.

[@viktorgabriel2554]

@@LadyVineXIII obsessing over it is what is hurting America there is a reason why racial relations are a lot less strained in Europe we dont tend to talk about it outside of the capitals who have taken up American cultures and are having racial wars after they started talking about it Europe looks at where you are from not your skin color

[@gwydion56]

I love hearing you discuss serious topics like this. Your knowledge of history, geography, and cultures gives you a perspective that very few content creators can match. Thanks for sharing your opinions, and reacting to such a wide range of material.

[@ludantikasmith2869]

racism isn't to think different races are different but that one is either superior/inferior or inherently good/evil due to their race. some traits can help depending where you are but the main and important difference between people of different races is culture.

[@darkshao51]

Finally, someone who really knows what he's talking about. This is the first time I've read someone give the real definition of racism.

[@Neekazan]

These definitions are what I was taught in school: Descrimination: the human thought process of seeing difference between yourself and others. The difference can be as little as the other person isn't in your family, or more obvious reasons such as different skin color. It's natural to have prejudice. The example I was given was, say your son and another boy (same race, just a different family) had an altercation. Which side do you take without knowing the details of what happened? Most would say their own son. Prejudice: automatically disliking someone because of discriminating that they're different from you wether it be skin color, religion or other. Taking the above example and expanding on it, say the other child is Jewish and you are Christian. If after seeing the altercation was caused by your child stealing ing the other's lunch, you still take your child's side because it the other kid doesn't deserve his meal because he's a Jew... now that's prejudiced. Racism: is oppressing someone for their race. It can be argued that only those in power can be racist, but it's subjective and/or situational. Say a white person is walking alone in a predominantly black neighborhood, and is surrounded by several black people who want to harm them for coming into their neighborhood. Who has the power in that situation? Oppression: the act of diminishing someone's worth as a human being. Looking down on someone soley based on their differences to you is wrong. Wanting to harm someone because they're different from you is wrong.

[@Ravynwulf1]

The whole "only those in power can be racist" is something only relatively recently taught. When I took sociology in college, back in the 2000s, it was taught there were different levels of racism. Systemic level racism was the only level where power is required, there is also interpersonal or individual level racism, which is just every day interactions or the discriminatory beliefs held by an individual

[@LadyVineXIII]

@Ravynwulf1 I learned the same in the 90s.

[@darkshao51]

Racism stems at root from the hierarchization of human ethnic groups. It refers to the fact of inferiorizing a whole group of humans on the simple criterion of their ethnicity. So it doesn't matter who's in power or who's dominant, as long as you inferiorize someone based on ethnic criteria, that's racism. Saying that someone is bad just because they have a particular skin color is racism.

[@sirteabag8652]

I don't totally agree with Lboyd on his race swap in fiction. if it makes sense I don't care, like Mary Jane on the New Spiderman. Everyone doesn't care about that because it is plausible since she could black since it's modern day New York but when it comes to something like the little mermaid witch is a story from Denmark 200/300 years ago it's jarring, it's not like Africa doesn't have 1000's of mermaid stories that could be made into film.

[@erikhogberg1]

Agreed. And as a white man i would go absolutely berserk if for example a much much newer character (Blade) was changed to a white character. Just stop changing them. Make new characters. And yes, i absolutely want to see a Mansa Musa movie.

[@darkshao51]

On paper, it's not that illogical that the Little Mermaid is black. It's worth noting that Disney's original film relocated the plot to the Caribbean seas. The story no longer takes place in Denmark. But for me, it's mainly the intention behind this change that bothers me. They didn't make this change for artistic reasons, but for ideological ones. As a result, the final product is less sincere and authentic. Personally, I'm not at all a fan of this process unless it's really a desire of the author because he finds it artistically interesting. That's why I can accept that the character of Nick Fury is played by Samuel L Jackson, because it was Stan Lee's wish in terms of his artistic vision of the character on film. But for Ariel, it's just a political decision.

[@ScarlettSonja]

As a pnw whitish person, when I moved to the south, I definitely felt discrimination at times. Sometimes it was just poor service at a restaurant, (I was a waitress also so I know the difference.), or the time a landlord wouldn't rent a house for my family because we weren't darker.

[@91GT347]

Yes. I have lived in in several states, in both. Its quite the opposite of what most people believe. More white people that way in the North. The opposite in the South.

[@Legendary33284]

Funny how after LeBron situation was brought up they very quickly changed from "you CAN'T have power and be a victim of racism" to "you CAN have power and be the victim of racism

[@SecretKeeperForever9]

I grew up in a rather culturally diverse family though all of us identified as white despite being rather mixed: Native American, Black, and Mexican were all part of our family. I can recall my father being accused of kidnapping me one time because I'm so fair skinned and he's a dark olive skin tone (if you have to know my dad's family is Mexican, Spanish and Irish). It was so deeply traumatizing for me as a kid to see my dad pulling out baby photos to prove to strangers so they wouldn't try to call cops in a public place. I can't remember my exact age but it was between 5 and 7 years old. The fact I still remember it nearly twenty years later shows the impact it can have on kids. I hated when the term white privilege came up because I had grown up seeing how racism and classism affected my father and now people wanted to say I had privilege because I was white when all I did was have less melanin in my skin than my father. I still grew up in my preteens and early teens being judged when my father went to prison just because we shared a last name despite being raised by mother's family and the entire community knew it. The judge on his case saying he was just like his father that went to prison for things he did because of PTSD during Vietnam back when there wasn't support for Vietnam veterans and people barely understood PTSD. I experienced discrimination so much as a child and well into my young adulthood until I moved away. It's hard for me to be okay I have white privilege with those experiences.

[@admiralmonocle3874]

When you think Thomas Sowell doesn't tell the whole story, you should definitely react to him and say everything he let out.

[@mr44mag]

This. I've seen books shot down with over 25 pages of citations at the end, with nothing more than a historian saying that's not what happened. No backing. Maybe point out what it is he's doing wrong.

[@LadyVineXIII]

It also helps to realize the authors' biases, but yes. Never trust a single source and always check the author's sources. No one person or video can provide a complete picture of any complex subject. It always pays to check a few sources including a dissenting one.

[@alexwebb5054]

Yeah, I think it's specifically counter effective to just say. "He only tells 35%" that's well and good but then we should discuss what he left out. It always seems in my experience that people will object to someone (not just Sowell) with a generic statement like that, but it doesn't mean anything unless it's backed up. Not claiming it can't be backed up, I would just appriciate actually seeing/hear it.

[@dandobrowolski5818]

Thomas Sowell tends to bring to light parts of history that we are not told...facts that are obscured by politics and social agendas.

[@Robby_C]

Our culture has completely lost the plot. 🤦‍♂ Somehow it still shocks me to realize what little thought people have actually put into these concept.

[@benjaminroe311ify]

I think the guy that was saying "we all deserve a certain standard of living" is correct. If the standard is very low. I think the idea that people are DESERVING of Healthcare is an interesting one. I tend to agree that everyone should. I think everyone should get basic food and shelter even if they don't work. But that's about it. To do anything else. You should have to work for it etc.

[@ckwi2245]

I'd put the bar a good chunk above that, still pretty low. 30-40 Hours a week of work should at least afford a 1 Bedroom Apartment within reasonable transit distance of the work place, 3 Healthy Meals a Day (Regular food, almost anything above $1-3 microwave dinners), and a single Domestic Vacation (an actual vacation, not just visit family on major holidays). Probably won't push you into the stratosphere, but at least enough to not worry about tomorrow, next week, next month, but having to work for it is a requirement, not working is a privilege and should not become a right. ever.

[@CharanPagan]

If a person scores two points lower on a test but has had to deal with greater adversity, like they have to cook for and take care of their siblings (with whom they share a bedroom/study space) while their single parent works a second job, doesn't their score indicate that they worked harder and achieved more than a student that has their own private study space, has no chores to do and has a two-parent household where educated parents help them with their homework? There is an effort to narrow the definition of the word "merit" so that it applies to fewer poor people and people of color. This shouldn't be difficult to see or to understand.

[@nonsuch]

Duh. Anybody can be racist to anyone. That's a ridiculous question.

[@JakeFromYoutube]

You would think it's that simple (it is), but you'd be surprised how many people genuinely believe it's not possible 😂

[@michaelkulman7095]

They got the definition changed in the dictionary.

[@badbasic]

I would just want to make one exception, joking about someone is not racism, in my view, unless it comes from a bad place. I would really like for people to leave comedy out of it.

[@Rice_enjoyer999]

@@badbasic I agree

[@velraven8944]

@@michaelkulman7095 They somehow managed to make "Systemic racism" take over the entire meaning of "racism" so that people are susceptible to being actual racists without even comprehending that it's something they can do, and they even managed to codify that newspeak into the dictionary. We're not as deep down the hellhole as we could be, but we're pretty far down.

[@trwortham]

Affirmative action became a tricky issue for me when someone pointed out if admissions were based on scholastic achievement alone, all US ivy league schools would be almost entirely Asian foreign nationals.

[@jakejager]

Character race swapping should be unnecessary, just create new ones or use the multitude of black/poc characters that already exist. To me, all this race swapping feels like more revenge being played out on people who, in all likelihood, weren't remotely associated with the racism and slavery of the past. You want a black superman, well, there's already examples of that character in comics and it'd be easy enough to create a world where other people survived the destruction of Krypton...as if there wouldn't be considering how advanced they were. Or black flash, see Wally West...Spawn is another original character that's black...i could go on. My ultimate point is this: don't wreck beloved characters if your goal is actually diversity, use the ones we already have or if they feel those characters aren't good enough for you create new ones...really that simple. You have to have something you love, some toy, car, game or whatever. Imagine they changed it on you, not just the color but the rules so that only certain colors can now have thale advantage...may be a poor example but i hope I'm getting my point across.

[@jakejager]

Thomas sowell has whole books and audio books covering the history he speaks on and he goes real in depth... I'd be curious to see what you think is missing from his works. He is an economist and has gained his knowledge through studying how the economy affected everyone through time which seems to have led him to becoming more of a historian. His works are good, even if they are lacking something he hits the big points that are important and i don't know what you feel he's missing, would love to see you do a vid on his work.

[@JohnWarner-lu8rq]

I would, also.

[@llibressal]

Same. I'd like to hear what he missed.

[@jakejager]

I feel like Lloyd has more info that I haven't seen or heard about Mr Sowell and I've dug into history myself having felt his work matches what the historical record actually shows so maybe he'll understand our curiosity at his comments alluding to missing information...that I can't find myself...need to know. I mean it in the kindest sense, no malice, only curiosity. If I've been wrong about Thomas Sowell I must know why...otherwise he's a solid collator of historical facts through economics and ethnicity.

[@steveM1341]

Two comments. First, I appreciate that the presenter interacted with intelligent, thoughtful people on this subject. Second, while I understand the necessity of having the discussion, as a white man married to a black woman, and having children and grandchildren who are mixed black, Hispanic and white, this subject breaks my heart.

[@ruelie]

ive had people tell me that they are allowed to be blatantly racist towards me because ive "never been enslaved before". GIRL. WE ARE BOTH 14 YEARS OLD. NEITHER OF US HAVE BEEN ENSLAVED TF

[@pokejuice1495]

Racism is never going away. It does not discriminate. If everyone can own the fact that we are all a little bit racist the world would be a better place. There are inherant differences between races that should be recognized and celebrated. When one applies hate to those differences it becomes a problem. In a nutshell we are all in this together. Together we stand divided we fall.

[@kylemenos]

I cant say i'm rasict sorry. I dont understand it. I think alot of people in america are just being brain-washed into thinking they are racist when they aren't because they feel guilty about a past they had nothing to do with which began with either african slave traders or further back from Slavic country where white people were the slaves hence the name. Do i see people and think they are inclinded to like or hate something because of how they look? sure but thats not racism. There is no hate. So i'd like you to ask yourself if you are abit racist. explain to yourself what is it you hate? You see in my eyes Adolf was a racist. Thats the real stuff. Thinking a black person might like chicken is not racist its derogetory.

[@elunedlaine8661]

Thomas Sowell said to succeed in life, one acquires skills that people are willing to pay for

[@glamasaurus]

The Oprah purse incident happened in Zurich Switzerland. The story released inside Switzerland was that she actually wasn't allowed to show the purse because the manager had to be there because it had special handling requirements and you needed an appointment. The owner of the store also was at a event with Oprah and she was shocked when the story came out because Oprah didn't ask her about it. Is it possible she was treated that way because of racism? Of course. Do I know what happened? Nope That's just the story that was released in Switzerland about it

[@ingiford175]

So I am a victim because they used the same rules on me as everyone else?

[@glamasaurus]

@Ingi Ford as someone who doesn't really go shopping for high-end Goods it could be the store policy but it could also have just been a convenient way for them to excuse their situation. I don't know. What I do know is that when you do work in a high-end retail environment you are trained to almost act above the customers. So I can see both sides. My opinion is the truth is probably somewhere in the middle

[@UtamagUta]

@@glamasaurus it also illustrates how americans never miss a chance to cry victim to everyone publically first before resolving a non issue privately

[@glamasaurus]

@@UtamagUta I'm from the US. It's not an American thing. It's a type of person thing. Those people are just the loudest

[@esthermclauchlan3146]

​@@glamasaurus the stores handling requirements etc were on 5he stores website and were written on a notice in the store. So no she wasn't treated differently.

[@Grumpyk1d]

I think there is a massive difference between have A conversation and have "the conversation" in regards to discrimination and racism. Having A conversation implies that both sides are contributing to a hope of finding common ground and an overall understand of one another. "The Conversation" is what we see from the majority of people in this video; which is, regurgitating what they have been told in the media. The current conversation isn't about developing an understanding but more so about pointing the finger and trying to raise one side up by bringing another one down. Having a conversation between individuals or a group CAN BE healthy and educational. Unfortunately we will never get that from massive groups shouting at each other and the media constantly trying to divide us. The best way is to stop talking about race all together. Stop referring to people as a black man or a white man, they are both just men. But this is a utopian wish and will never actually happen.

[@YoungMorningkeeper]

Thank you for bringing up this conversation. I just wished we all could get along but thats not how it goes. I refuse to be terrible to someone based on looks or skincolour. I either like or dislike someone based on their personality and I take pride in that.

[@4X10S]

You said we can have a convo when they start replacing skin color in history events.. Well, we recently had it with Cleaopatra movie :)) Woman King is another great example of twisting history (no color replacement but historical facts tho) Also I'd prefer it the Spain's way, better to have no conversation, than conversation that goes in U.S., because it's just constant blame and twisting of history, If you pick 100 black Americans on the street and ask them their origins they wouldn't be able to answer, everyone screaming about racism and slavery, well, name your master and ask the reparations from their family then.. regular ass people breaking their backs just the way you do have nothing to do with slavery, but racism is brewing because they get blamed for something they haven't done.

[@LadyVineXIII]

You have to be careful with reparations from the family. That is punishing someone who themselves has likely never nor would ever own slaves. Remember, slavery was legally abolished over two centuries ago in many places and segregation laws ended over 50 years ago at the latest in North America. Would you put someone in jail or execute them because their great-grandfather committed murder? No. There is also the likelihood that the current family members are just as poor if not poorer than the descendants of the slaves. The Middle Class is disappearing at an alarming rate.

[@quinceykirkland1227]

I love how people act like they are exempt from acting the same way they condemn others for....

[@Athainian1973]

In grade 12 our teacher asked us if we felt prejudice towards any race and why. We were asked to be honest with each other and ourselves. We wrote our answers down. Some of us had bad experiences with people of one race or another.

[@LadyVineXIII]

Did you have those bad experiences with individuals of that race or that race in general? It sometimes helps to realize that one bad apple should not be allowed to ruin the whole bushel.

[@ObIitus]

@@LadyVineXIII Bushel that contains 10 times more bad apples than average is arguably already spoiled.

[@user-eg4qy7mp1n]

I'm only half way through your video but I find your rationality and clear-headedness such a refreshing change. All to often on KZbin so many people want to maintain the 'us vs them' dichotomy which, in my mind just creates more division and moves further away from solving our problems (not my problems, not your problems, our problems, we're all in this together. We can try to work together or we can rip ourselves apart through division.)

[@llibressal]

You can't have both. Equal outcomes or equal opportunity. You have to pick one because one comes at the expense of the other.

[@Rangatology]

Mate, I agree with you wholeheartedly. My close circle contains people of Vietnamese, Sri Lankan, Polynesian, Caucasian descent. Why ? I live by the motto of “if you’re nice to me I’m nice to you & vice versa” & I feel the quality of friendship isn’t diluted because I’m open to the person, not the colour. There are good people all around the world. I’m a very pale red head in Australia - we are picked on as children like it’s a right of passage. I grew up poor. Lived in some of the poorest neighbourhoods. Have worked my butt off over 25 years just to earn an “average” wage, with no shortcuts. Yet, every so often I have a “person of a particular coloured appearance” randomly approach me (usually in an intoxicated state) & tell me of my history of privilege, how I enslaved people hundreds of years ago & how “my people” are holding that person & their lineage back. Change isn’t instantaneous - too many factors - but it is happening. It astonishes me how people today, live historically instead of appreciating today & plan to better tomorrow. As an Aboriginal elder once told our School when I was younger “it’s ok to remember the past, but hold yourself up with pride, aim to better yourself & help better tomorrow for all” - I loved that & try my best to live by it. The world will always have racism, but it’s up to each successive generation to ensure that those who think based upon colour are such a small group it doesn’t even register. Keep up your logical & intellectual approach to the videos, music, movies etc - I really enjoy how similarly we view most subjects 😊

[@jakejager]

You should listen to the whole Scott Adams speach, he made salient points. I don't agree with his final decision but intellectually i can understand what he's saying.

[@RobertL36]

I'm 48, from a small town in Oklahoma, my takeaway is from experience. Travel, meet new people and converse. I can't attest to other people's plights, I can empathize with those whom I've met and have a better understanding. Ignore the media outrage and talk to each other, it's the only way to make it better.

[@stephaniefarrant]

I would love to hear your logical take on the video 'What Are We Doing To White People'.

[@Jonesmalone562]

I have friends of all races , and percentage wise my African American friends tend to be way more racist...my white friends tend to be racist against whites. My Latino friends against Asians or other Latinos, and my Asian and Indian friends generally against African Americans, my indiginous African friends normally do not show any racism. I always tell them, I don't put up with racism from anyone...God made us all, and He loves us all, he made us different because He is awesome and variety is the spice of life!

[@Jonesmalone562]

Also, certain Countries are still super racist, in Japan if you are not Japanese there are many establishments you can't enter, they will make an x with their arms and say No gygien! Which means no foreigners.

[@BeerBreath702]

@@Jonesmalone562 I’m not mad at them for it. Look how it’s working out in Europe.

[@jcvastgoed1490]

@@Jonesmalone562 oh that’s funny because when they do that . I go Hiroshima nakasaki . Do you want this place to be the third? And then I kick the 4 feet little China men to the curb and I go inside the building .

[@dvb8637]

​​@@Jonesmalone562 Yes cuz they see and learn from the west. They are smart. Look how well and safe it is there. The west should do the same thing. Also Japan is totaly different. They want to be a japanese country instead of multi cultural. For the exact reasson the U.S. is dealing with now. I dont blame japan one bit.

[@Jonesmalone562]

Yes well that is the thing, America is a Melting Pot we always have been, so it's annoying when people say that were racist, slavery was not just a black thing it just so happened that black slavery was the last one to be abolished, it never was about race it was about a market. It doesn't make it right, but the fact is America fought a war to end it, all these other countries that keep their populations a certain way have the right to, they have their borders. I just get frustrated with people allowing their differences to be an issue instead of embracing it, if you're an American citizen you are an American oh, we don't need to slap labels on everybody here. Socioeconomics always will come into play, but if you lived in India it doesn't matter your part of the caste system there so you might all be Indians but there are some rich, some middle class and some poor and it's just the way it is over there. Here you can succeed or fail no matter what your race is, and sometimes it doesn't matter how hard you were if you don't have the right opportunity, I have had to live in a car for certain periods of my life, even while I was working 60 hours a week, because that is just the way my hand has been dealt. I hear about white privilege but I have never felt White Privilege even though if you look at me you would definitely think I'm pretty much white, but I don't whine and cry about my Situation's I work through it. I also love all people and cultures and have friends in all the lower levels of society, I really don't have any friends that are doctors or lawyers or anything like that that are well-to-do, because money recognizes money and they sure recognize when you don't have it. That does not bother me because I don't really care for rich people, I don't envy them either. I just wish we could realize that the true enemy is the 1% and we need to stick together. This isn't Japan, this isn't China, this isn't India, we are a Melting Pot so we should act like a Melting Pot and mix together to make a very wonderful stew, not some sort of chemistry experiment gone wrong. Stop blaming white people for everything, stop blaming circumstances, we all have to take responsibility for our own decisions and work together to make it better not just overcorrecting things which inevitably makes things just as bad as they were just in a different direction. I always have to ask my friends when they're being racist how they could be friends with me if I love the people that they claim to be hating or I am the people they claim to be hating? It makes zero sense, you will always meet a bonehead from every race or culture, there is no perfect person here on Earth, so generalizing people and lumping them into groups is about the most ridiculous thing that you can do oh, it just shows you are an insecure person.

[@sneakybeanie01134]

Scott is correct, it's a class issue and they're calling it a race. People are duped.

[@MrZKR2391]

There is a difference between removing bias in hireing and forceing companies to hire a lesser skilled worker, simply cus they are of different color or race, AA was made for the right reasons just not done correctly

[@spencerpearson1321]

I had to disagree when you say you disagree that everyone deserves a certain standard of living. I believe no one deserves to starve or struggle to keep their lights on and their water running. Do I believe people are entitled to housing? Maybe. I believe that a great part of the equality of opportunity doctrine is that everyone should start out at the very least at a minimum level that preserves their dignity and their basic necessities so that people can then have the freedom to pursue their outcomes. I love your content and think you are a very reasonable person, but I disagreed with your statement.

[@Lowlightt]

So if someone does no work and contributes nothing in anyway they should have housing, water, electricity, and food? Those things cost money. So people who are working will now pay for that person to not work. I believe social services that pay for children to not go hungry is acceptable because children aren't at the age to work thus should be cared for, people who are injured and can't work should also be taken care of. I believe exceptions like this should exist. However I don't believe "everyone" deserves all of there needs to be met when they contribute nothing and or do nothing. Equal Opportunity means that everyone has the same opportunity to achieve. Its not about raising people up so much as its about eliminating things that keep them down. The ultimate goal is that they take care of themselves and achieve what they will. And equal opportunity makes sure there aren't things "put" in there way to keep them back.

[@spencerpearson1321]

@@Lowlightt Do you know what else cost money? violence. we have hundreds of thousands of people growing up with no food no electricity and no running water at times in the US. I just think it’s crazy that our government is more concerned about taking care of wars halfway across the world for my entire life then it is about Flint having water or our own people at home struggling financially. Did you know that 70% of US citizens can’t afford a $500 emergency? We Don’t need self righteous bootstraps conservatism. It clearly hasn’t worked for most of us.

[@Godkey1]

This Japanese guy GEN on KZbin makes actually very good content! I have seen several video's from him and I was very impressed because his video's are wel balanced and very good produced. And he has several very good street interviews and discussions with people. I like him because I think he is a good human being. I like you a lot too MrLboyd! I have seen a lot of reaction video's from you and I'm very impressed by your honest and balanced commentary. Thank you MrLboyd for making this world a better place by your positive character & commentary!

[@azertoo7]

The issue regarding the fictional movies and shows does matter somewhat depending on what the source material is, if the source material is based on pure American works, (i.e. Star Wars, inspired by a Japanese movie but with enough differences to become it's own thing) or if the source material is a cultural thing (i.e. Heimdall which is a Norse Deity, The Lord of the Rings heavily based on and using many elements of Norse and Celtic mythos, or the Little Mermaid which is an adaptation of a Danish fairy tale). I think that if the roles were reversed and Disney made an adaptation of an African folk tale with a white person playing the lead, there would be a huge call for racism, furthermore this puts a roadblock in giving other ethnicities proper representation in original stories and tales to enrich the culture, not just repainting European culture. I believe a good example would be a French cartoon released in the late 90' "Kirikou et la Sorcière" ("Kirikou and the Sorceress" in English, an original tale based on African folk tales and depicting African culture, I highly recommend to give it a look, and then let me know if you agree with me that there should be more original works like "Kirikou et la Sorcière" and less recolorized versions of European folk tales?

[@markperkins9445]

Racism and oppression are two different things. We used to have an educational system that resulted in students that were able to see the clear difference.

[@Grimmance]

Im waiting to see how long it takes for the word truth to go the way of "litterally", where truth will mean "subjective experience" as opposed to "objective and potentially provable fact".

[@stainlessdoom3433]

Its great to see a strong-willed, intelligent person sharing their thoughts. Respect to MrLboyd. New subscriber gained, I can't wait to learn more from you.

[@RocketJr.]

The only thing i wanna say is: "If you are not my friend, you are my enemy." is the worse thing to think!

[@joshuamcdowell1460]

Oppression isn't about race. It's about government. It's always been government. White people are not the enemy. The government is.

[@ThatShyGuyMatt]

Because I don't have a politcal party, I got slack from friends on both sides of the aisle to vote for they wanted. They kept telling my vote Obama so we can have the first black president. Then when it came to Biden, they told me to vote for Biden since we have the first poc female vice. Really? While such achievements are great, I don't care what someone is. I vote on if I think they will be good at their job. It's all I care about. To note I did vote for Obama. And thankfully for the most part, he was a great president.

[@JohnWarner-lu8rq]

OweBama was the fourth worst president in history, after Wilson, FDR and Carter.

[@rationalcynic8416]

I disagree. Obama was a terrible president, especially during his second term. In his second term, he played the race card even though he was the f-ing president, which kicked off the mass victim mentality and the discriminatory policies and treatment of White and Asian people. His wife is even more insufferable. Race relations in this country were good before Obama's second term in 2012. In 2012, sh*t started to hit the fan regarding race relations, and this isn't a coincidence. In my eyes, Obama is one of the top 5 most destructive and divisive presidents in U.S. history.

[@danpitzer765]

A Mansa Musa movie would be awesome. So would a Shaka Zulu movie. I mean, we STILL use some of Shaka's military techniques. He had as much influence on warfare as Sun Tzu did, if not possibly more. And Mansa Musa...just yes. Please.

[@user-tx5bx3wq4g]

Can’t do it…they’d have to show a black person enslaving ppl. That’s not the story they want to share

[@velraven8944]

And if Hollywood says "NO we need to empower African WOMEN first!" then boom, Amanirenas. Just anything but this lazy pandering and even revisionist bs

[@chhh8057]

That’s exactly what my wife and I said. A Zulu warrior movie would be amazing to watch.

[@johngranheim3134]

It's great that Hollywood is listening to you guys and giving you exactly what you want. The Woman King was released just recently depicting a historical African leader in all his glory. And just the other week you had Cleopatra. 😅

[@chhh8057]

@@johngranheim3134 A fake cleopatra with things that didn't even happen. She wasn't a warrior. The woman king was idiotic.

[@p220096g]

I drove a middle school bus in 2001, I drove in Graham, NC. I had a busy load of children who came in lots of colors and sizes. I was assigned the bus nobody wanted because of the tension on the bus. These kids were unable to sit through a 45 minute ride without fighting over, their color, and or the argument of privilege because they were not yet old enough to claim power, although they thought they were. I learned so much. It was the first time I was exposed to both points of view. I wish I had taken recordings of the various points of view I was exposed to. I found the comments that exposed racial thought patterns were very similar in either race. I didn't have Asian students so I can't speak about that. But among black and white families these children believed closely the way their parents did. Both seemed to confirm their right to denigrate the other to a large degree. In other words, "I have a right to hate you and not trust you because you are _____." Fill in the color. In my opinion what they all shared in common was basic poverty and they were taught to cope by believing they had been pushed there by each other. I drove for 3 years. What changed on my bus was the rules, which were posted and the fact that I measured out justice and responsibilities as color blind as I was short. 4'10". I refused to listen to arguments based on color issues and if you picked a fight on my bus it was always with me, not other students. It took half a year to work through this. So yes racism is alive and well in all colors. But I have seen where poverty is both the invisible creator and sustainer of societal racism. To me racism in America is a form of hidden caste system and thrives because we lack the ability to refuse to pass judgement and we base a lot of this perception on personal biases and prejudice. So I believe, racism is based on perceived color advantages or disadvantages and thrives in humans because we refuse to recognize this method of judgement is fed through poverty and want. Just a thought, and purely my opinion, I apologize if you were offended by my comment.

[@SenSamaShoran]

First time I realized I experienced racism, was weirdly enough on a dating site.... I'm a woman, so it's quite common to receive a lot of messages from men.. There was one guy, who was black, and his message went along the lines of "If you don't reply to me, you're racist", going on and on about how he is not a lesser man because of his color.

[@EvanBlack72]

Always start with kindness and generosity, and if they turn out to be an asshole, call it out and leave them to their shitty lives. Race does not define content of character. You will miss out on some amazing people in your life if you judge by skin.

[@Mephistolomaniac]

people can be awfully quick to insist that racism is only racism when it's paired with political power. Those same people will conveniently ignore this poor excuse of an argument when they face interpersonal racism. The "we're not the ones in power" argument, i think, is just a cheap excuse not to take responsibility for your own actions. Don't be a dick.

[@GrumpyOldGuyPlaysGames]

There are five distinct definitions of the word "racist." 1. Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism toward a person or a group of people based on ethnicity or culture. 2. The belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another. 3. Actions or statements that promote these type of beliefs 4. The systemic oppression of a racial group to the social, economic, and political advantage of another. 5. A political or social system founded on racism and designed to execute its principles. The only one of these definitions that would limit racism to certain groups, and excuse racism from other groups are Definitions 4 and 5. But even then, it depends on the society in question. I mean, sure, here in the US white people are the perpetrators under definitions 4 and 5. But in Japan? Or Kenya? Or Korea? Or India? I offered a thought experiment once to a college ethics class I was teaching once in response to the idea that racism was "power + prejudice." Imagine two men, one white, one black. They are standing nose-to-nose and screaming racial epithets at each other. Which one is the racist? The common perception would be the white guy... except the two of them are standing in the middle of Kinshasa, the capital of the Democratic Republic of Congo, a nation ruled by black people and where black people have all the socio-economic power. Guess its the black guy after all. So the two men get into an airplane and fly to New York City, where they return to shouting epithets at each other. Suddenly, as if by magic, the white guy is the racist. Then the two men get on a second airplane and go to Tokyo, and again they return to shouting racial insults each other. Which one is the racist now? Well, neither of them. In Japan, neither white people nor black people have the socio-economic power. This thought experiment sort of puts paid to the idea that only white people can be racist due to "power + prejudice".

[@user-px3vz3cx9h]

If anyone would be detached from concept of taking everything personally and be offended,the situation in this world could be much more different than the current one we're in

[@tarapiglet]

UMMMMMM Racism is not based on skin color - which as soon as you say that, I know you aren't informed. The Jewish people who were persecuted were fair-skinned. The Kurdish Genocide was enacted by the Iraqis who are basically the same skin tone. Oh, but you gotta isolate yourself and don't realize there is a whole world going on around you. Racism is when a broad generality is made about a group of people of similar ethnic background which implies negative qualities about them - thus "justifying" any mistreatment of them (in the eye of the person being "Racist").

[@MrDekasOne]

It's honestly crazy how many things happening today comedians predicted 10 20 30+ years ago

[@LinniageX]

I think people get too caught up in skin color because it is overtly visible. White people have in fact oppressed other white people. It isn't about skin color, its about position and circumstance. The reason we have such a huge problem here in the US is that for the most part the HAVES have traditionally been white and the HAVE NOTS have traditionally been everyone else. Take 10 seconds some time and watch the difference between those who think they are entitled and those who do not, you'll usually see disgust from the powerful and disdain from the powerless.. and there you get modern "racism". Everyone uses hateful words to describe other people when we are hurt by them.

[@charlesw6199]

I first found you through a Dimash reaction and then saw that you react to other topics. I love you're way of thinking and analysis and you are 100% correct.

[@Tom-ev4rg]

Honestly, I wish we could figure out ways of actually helping those who most struggle in society. Instead, we don't ever seem to make much headway. I know that attacking people for their skin color is never the answer.

[@a.westenholz4032]

I think that simply giving people what they haven't earned, like entry to university or jobs was never a good idea. The focus should have been on improving conditions in targeted areas, especially education, so that they could earn it themselves. And if they still faced a lack of opportunity despite having excellent qualifications, then give those people a startup opportunities with help experienced advisors and funding, where they themselves could hire others like themselves who though qualified had faced discrimination. If they had done that in the 60s and 70s, I'd bet we'd have a lot more companies that were originally minority startups and that would have since then changed corporate culture, and neighborhoods, local communities by their existence. The problem was that affirmative action seems to want to "cheat" by giving struggling groups access and seats at a table they haven't really earned instead of someone who had worked to merit that seat. And it does so for the most superficial reasons, like skin color or gender so that a university or company can fill its quota. Those who do get in this way to university are already behind everyone else as the standards were lowered to get them in, so many end up eventually dropping out. It would be one thing if "affirmative action" was more about helping financially, so that any student from a certain set of parameters who got into state university got their education and dormitory etc. funded. That it helped locate job opportunities and fund eventual relocations for those jobs if they were out of state- but the actual hiring process was your own responsibility. That the organization would have a large index of which companies, big and small, were known for being non-discriminating and those that were known to be so (so a waste of time to apply- and the company's loss of qualified talent because of it). That is the way I would have done it. That way you help but not so much that anyone doubts that they got where they are by anything else than merit. Unlike the way it is these days.

[@Tom-ev4rg]

@@a.westenholz4032 I agree with this. Unfortnately, everything is so politicized, we've stopped looking for actual solutions.

[@alienews0]

i'm a french guy in his 4Os and i'm scared by the woke movement invasion. You see here we had a pretty different history than in USA. we had what we call "les lumières" (literally the lights) which was an intellectual revolutionary mouvement which celbrated humanism (and shortly its incompatible with racism). Of course it doesn't guarantee there are no racism in France, there are people scared by differences and not understanding them everywhere in the word, but it meant the system, the government doesn't recognize race nor religions it is blind to these considerations and thus can't discriminate based on these criteria. But since a few years, and i think mainly because USA's soft power with all the hollywoods movies and all the shows that you export to us, the idea of positive discrimination has been a thing. And from my understanding, a discrimination based on race is almost racism. Sure you can discriminate without pretending there is a hierarchy between races, but from a scientific point of view the notion of human race is very weak (if not totaly irrelevant) as genetic difference between ethnic groups is meaningless compared to differences between one person and another (whatever their respective etnic group is). So here in France, we still don't speak of races for human beings but of ethnic groups (which generaly refers more to a cultural aspect than to a genetic one, but even in scientific publications in french language if they were discuss genetic diff between groups of people they still use the word "ethnie" andd not "race"), might sound like a details to some but it's crucial to me, so when i hear about safe space discriminating people based on ther race i can't avoid to think about Rosa Park, what they call "safe space" i call that apartheid... So yeah here's my request : please USA, stop exporting your woke movement to France (yeah i know, nothin u can do if we keep on buying it... But still I can't help asking it)

[@TerraChild1978]

It's not about having the conversation or not! It's about constructive, unifying, goal driven communication! Rather than dribbling hate and ignorance!

[@malagastehlaate230]

I work in healthcare and I have for the last 25 years... however it has only been in the last 2 to 3 years that I have had to broach this subject in the workplace. I've had 2 or 3 deeply melinated people tell me that the people who are there with me working are "racist" ... and blame all their woes on their race. Which I could only say what I feel... which is "No one in my group of coworkers is racist." infact there are some who are far from that more sexist than racist... I know quite a number of Drs who work the ER rotations who are not of "European" decent who are DEEPLY sexist. They treat women poorly... they talk down to them... etc... I tell them that honestly we are there to do our job... which is to assess the situation... do what we can to improve their health and wellbeing... and to determine the cause of their health problem... that is all nothing more. Don't care what color you are... don't care where you came from... don't care what your economic status is... only concern is what brought you to the ER today... and how can we help. Now... 1 of those persons who believed us to be "Racist" had broken the law... was heavily intoxicated... and causing a scene... was brought in by the police. Again... I honestly do not care... but I'm the kind of empathetic individual that if you come in with attitude and are being beligerant and toxic... it can reflect back... as I have little tolerance for toxicity... I try to tell people that in the ER we don't see skin color. We see x-rays... we see labs... and that's about it. Just want to do my job and be done. Just like anyone else... Do I think that there isn't racism in my community.... heck no! I've seen it raise it's ugly head. I try to believe that I am not racist. I always treat everyone as I want to be treated. I am kind, polite, and try to be a good human being. I think racism is ugly... I remember in high school being asked what we thought the world would be like in the year 2000... I said "Star Trek"... because I had hopes we could be "one nation"... Earth... had hopes we could leave borders behind... and work together as one nation to better the world as a whole. But of late I feel we are throwing that all away... in the last few years I feel we have abandoned all reason for insanity... I am sadly afraid things are going to get worse. Do not think that in my lifetime I will ever see what I had hoped to see happen and it makes me sad.

[@KittenOfDeath77]

A person doesn't inherently deserve anything. "Deserve" means to have earned it. We are too sensitive about what other people say. I've never let being called a racial slur impact my life. What ever happened to "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me?" Most black people I know would rather have an original black story told in a movie than have a traditionally white role supplanted with a black person. I was lucky enough to grow up with people of many cultures, and never developed a sense of hate, or to even ever think about skin color. I have also experienced in business that certain races are more difficult to deal with, or even flat out dishonest. While this represents a large portion of a specific of a culture I've dealt with in business, it does not make me dislike these people because of their culture. People who come here from other countries don't always understand the way business is conducted here. I will also say, one of the big issues I see when it comes to "job discrimination" has to do with how people present themselves, through how they dress and their manner of speaking. No one wants to talk to a customer service person that is difficult to understand. Just like no one wants to hire someone with baggy pants hanging halfway down their backside for a corporate job. You need to present an image that is representative of the job you are applying to.

[@benjaminroe311ify]

I agree with your whole comment. The one part though is that Sticks and Stones saying. That is a really harmful addage actually. Words DO have power and DO affect us. They most certainly can and will hurt, its not always so simple as just deciding to be less sensitive. Although deciding to try to not let words affect you as much is possible and people SHOULD try to not be easily offended.

[@LadyVineXIII]

@benjaminroe311ify I think it helps to differentiate as well between a comment said our of ignorance or misunderstanding and a comment said with malicious intent. I accidentally said something that offended someone simply because I did not know it was an issue. Ignorance is not a sin. We are all born ignorant, and we all have to learn. It is when you know something is wrong and still do it that we have an issue.

[@crypto9040]

Amen

[@chhh8057]

There are so many amazing black people in history they could do movies on. They would rather pander though because they don't really care about you.

[@TexasGreed]

I wish whoever made that movie Dunkirk would make a film about the Tuskegee Airman. Such a legendary group of men deserves more recognition. The latest film about them sucked unfortunately.

[@chhh8057]

@@TexasGreed Man there's so much they could do, but they never will. I love history and would love to see a lot of movies get made.

[@doggolovescheese1310]

Gotta diasgree, housing food and water is a human right. No one should starve or be homeless.

[@Phlarx]

I'm unconvinced that fictional characters versus nonfictional characters is as clean of a line as is being presented. For many people, there are fictional characters, even obviously fictional ones, that they identify with more strongly than even a famous real person who died a century ago. Since people's identity does include how they look, I think it's important to have a conversation about *both* cases. As other comments have pointed out with Ariel, we should be considering both the people who will be able to more closely identify with the character, as well as those who will have a diminished ability to do so.

[@terihumphrey6624]

What's so stupid is that these people walk around saying Uncle Tom like it's a four-letter word they're calling you but if they knew anything about it they would know Uncle Tom was the hero

[@hugabugbare]

I was torn about liking this one, always love your reactions, but saying you didn't want to put Thomas Sowel on, I would LOVE to hear what you dislike about him, the things he's leaving out, he's good! So react to him, and tell us where he's wrong, please.

[@MrLboydReacts]

He isn’t wrong, he just leaves things out. I can’t stand incomplete theories and statements.. sowell is this to me.. example ( Today was a great day I went to the ) .

[@hugabugbare]

@@MrLboydReacts So a reaction to him doing such things would be good, the ones I have seen of him he's always quite clear, so I'd love to hear you pick the one you disagree with the most and tell us why. Thanks

[@XxAverageJoexX]

@@MrLboydReacts I have loved your channel for a long time and would also love to hear what you have to say about Thomas. Love your reactions and opinions in every video.

[@TheSpiderblob]

thank you for the conversation, I am new to this topic really I didnt realize how big it has gotten. I just want to live in a world were we can just love each other without the extra stuff.

[@jayi.6448]

MrLBoyd, I appreciate your videos and I'd love to hear more about your views on Sewell as I'm a fan of his. That said, I'm open to hearing the examples of the gaps that you are referring to. As an economist, I'd imagine that the direction of his focus. Thanks again!

[@sierrabaughman810]

If thomas sowell only gives 35% of the story all the more reason you should do reactions,

[@rhoetusochten4211]

I really like that you're not jumping on the grift bandwagon. It appears, to me, that some melanated ytubers chase the clout by attacking everything Black. By contrast, you'll say what you agree with, and what you disagree with from any given viewpoint. Thomas Sowell has a hammer, and it is a good hammer, but not every problem is a nail, and things that aren't nails can be problems too.

[@Lesminster]

The title question is the one that easily shows who's racist.

[@sentientplant9658]

I remember a good few years ago, I went to a Starbucks over by a Korean church after it let out, and i saw my friend. All i said was hello to him, but as I walked away, i heard the people he was sitting with start making fun of him because he spoke to a white girl (me). And it made me feel SO bad, both for him and myself. If you see Korea's history as being occupied more often than not, you do see the reasons for their rigid homogeneous outlook on their society and culture, but that doesn't mean it isn't hurtful or racist (it very much is). That isn't growth, and that goes for all different cultures and races. "You're white so your opinion doesn't matter" is hurtful, especially when you asked my opinion in the first place. And as a white woman in the South, my basic human rights are also getting taken away (Roe v Wade overturning). I don't have rights to my own body, so don't drag me for being white.

[@ghostpants5700]

When the aliens get here, we'll all quickly forget about races as we desperately try to defend our stupid planet together 😅

[@bencoley7024]

Meh, it'll cause a divide , those in support of Aliens , those opposed ..

[@Kimberley-fr5ol]

I have experienced racism against me and my kids by black people there was a woman and when she would look at us I could feel the hate from her despite the fact I have never felt that way about anyone else I judge people by character not skin color

[@Drachenhannes]

Americas obsession with race always struck me as odd. I remember first time getting into reading Stephen King. Whenever he wrote about about a black person the color of their skin was so front and center in each paragraph it made me think he wanted to portray that as their main trait. Everytime i read about Detta Walker, mother Abigail or anyone it was always so prominent. Not just during their introduction. Every time they appeared on page. It felt like "Abigail, who as a quick reminder still was black, entered the room." I also have a personal anecdote to the push to inclusion creating division. As a child addicted to pop culture i never made much out of race. When a new Eddy Murphy movie came out i wanted to see, because he was hilarious. Will Smith movies were always slappin. Also Terminator and Aliens were among my favorite movies. Now? Black Panther was the first Marvel movie i skipped. These days when i hear about a movie promoting their diverse cast or female leads that movie is fighting an uphill battle from the start. I roll my eyes and sometimes prematurely decide to not like the movie and to skip it. This inclusivity push has made me a worse person. Not because i am much more racist now. Because i always expect an agenda these days.

[@a_random_soul_on_the_internet]

It is not about who is white or who is black. It is not about who is straight or who is gay. It is not about who is right or who is left. It is about good people, and bad people pretending to be good. And the latter comes in every color, shape, and form.

[@bassman87]

what i find is that people who seek others perspectives tend to understand reality better. Traveling helps with seeking other perspectives, but living somewhere else forces those other perspectives. For instance the fact that you spend half your time between the US and Spain provides forced perspective where you're able to show the differences between how you are treated in the US vs Europe. I didn't realize Europeans default blacks as being from Africa rather than Europe, because here in the US we assume blacks are from the US. That is a different perspective that I've never heard spending all my time in North America.

[@joshuakilmon1226]

It is very possible to be racist towards white people it’s not something that happened as often but is absolutely possible

[@ffreshfields5211]

Thank you so much for this poignant video. Sorry for my long share, but I have got to share my story. I am white woman. My view is that it is impossible to answer to arrogance and hate with arrogance and hate. It doesn't help to move the world forward. All humans are amazing. We come in many different hair, eye and skin colours, in different heights and widths and in different genders. That is just how it is and it is part of life and the beauty of it. I have always called out racism and always educated myself. Unfortunately, one of my partners had a lot of hate and rage towards white people, which he hid from the outside world and everyone loved him. I suffered extreme domestic violence, rape, and finally homelessness. I am currently living in a women's refuge. Unfortunately, some women here also have hate to white people. They wonder why I am there and they say that if they were white they would never end up in a women's refuge for domestic abuse, plus they say that because I am white I deserved to be abused. I am the only white woman in the house and they invest their hate and pain about white people onto me. This once got so bad, that the threats that I received made me too scared to leave my room for a week and had to do my business in a bucket in my room, while they rejoiced over the power they felt they had though this. I reached out about this to the staff of the refuge but they did not recognise it as discrimination, because I am white, and they said that these issues were probably just some personal quarrels between me and the other ladies and I just had to deal with it. Thankfully, some of those bullying residents have now moved out and some new women have come in their place. There is one new lady I click with really well, it is like we are old soul friends. Some of the other ladies have a problem with this and resent both of us for the friendship, because this newer lady is the most melanated person in the house. They assume she should be their friend and not mine. They witness the love and warmth between me and her, however they still do not realise that not everything is about skin colour, and that I am not a bigoted or bad person who deserves bad things. All this time that they spent hating, I have always treated them with love, respect and courtesy, despite their behaviour. I am left wondering how fine the line can be between fear of white people and fear or racism, and racism in itself, and that sometimes they are or have become separate things, dressed up as the same thing. I think treating people as equals and on a case by case basis takes more emotional courage and openness. Some people prefer to hate on the external world, believing that hate is the answer to hate or a way to restoring internal confidence. That is really sad and hurt just keeps recycling this way. I have always known that my power, happiness and confidence comes from within and not from anywhere else, and this will never change, and I wish others knew this too. I am trying to focus on myself and improving my mental and emotional strength again on the inside. It would make life so much easier if we all just let each other be and focused on ourselves, and helped each other in positive and practical ways. Together we can make a better world with more support to learning self-love in children and adults and more equal opportunities. That's what I want to dedicate my life towards.

[@BlueYYu]

I think showing diversity during early development is very important, like showing people of different colors in textbooks and stories and similar.