Can You Beat Batman: Arkham City Without Using Quickfire Gadgets?

For the 9th Anniversary of Batman: Arkham City, I give you my toughest challenge yet. After completing the no-glide challenge for the entire Arkham saga, I decided to go back to Arkham City to start a brand new challenge! Quickfire gadgets are surprisingly embedded into my muscle memory, so beating the game without them was something else. On top of that was a completely unforeseen challenge, which I'll leave secret for now...
Check out the No-Glide run of Arkham City here: • Can You Beat Batman: A...
And check out the video that promoted this, LEGO Batman without gliding: • Can You Beat LEGO Batm...
Don't expect a full uncut footage video. There will only be one video with the three big bosses of this challenge, Clayface, Ra's, and Grundy. There will be a full explanation as to why when that video gets here. First, gotta wait out these copyright claims!
Here's that video now: • Beating Batman: Arkham...
Thanks for watching, and feel free to suggest challenges to me in the comments! I'll see ya later, Chaps!

[@ClownPuncher139]

I honestly can't remember if I said this or not, because I made this video over a month ago, but I highly recommend anyone that loves Arkham City to try this challenge. This is a challenge that actually changes the game, rather than just make it inconvenient and tedious. Beating NG+ is hard enough, but doing it pretty much without gadgets is unbelievably difficult! And unlike certain game's hard modes, this one is still fair and just takes a lot of skill. If you have a challenge that would impact the game in a similar way, please leave it in the comments, because I would love to try it out. As always, stay tuned for this run in Arkham Origins and the next no-glide in Breath of the Wild, plus a few secret side-projects I'm currently working on, all related to Arkham! I'll see ya later, Chaps!

[@highlightermarca-texto3281]

All predator rooms and predator challenges with only gadgets or gadget takedowns. Or only loud takedowns. Something like that. I've tried only loud takedowns before, it's really difficult. But it's the only way that makes sense, seeing as a person comes back from a blood choke in a few seconds.

[@genjorah]

No detective mode (except for tutorial or crime scene purposes).

[@Andrew-li1fz]

Next video, can you beat Batman Arkham (game) without running?

[@highlightermarca-texto3281]

@@Andrew-li1fz do you mean walking? You can obviously do it without running (holding down the run button). It’s just really slow. Oh, actually. You need to run to slide right?

[@tomdean1876]

Honestly instead of new game plus, I would have just gotten the baterang upgrade that lets you throw three at a time. But new game plus isn't a bad solution either.

[@Objectorbit]

Gotta say, as someone who barely uses gadgets in combat just naturally, it's interesting to see someone else having to adapt to that playstyle.

[@BatarangBelt]

Same here

[@memelord9610]

Yeah I rarely use it.

[@JohnDoe_Gaming]

Same, I didn't even know quick fire gadgets were a thing until I watched a gameplay on KZbin. I'm sure it tells you, but I never cared about tutorials

[@emperorpalpatine5559]

@@JohnDoe_Gaming i swear there were enemies that require use of quick fire gadgets.. that might be asylum actually

[@largebig79]

yeah the only time i use quick fire in combat is in arkham knight when people charge at you

[@kalb157]

Can you beat Arkham City without using Detective Mode?

[@deadly5881]

Nope, simple answer is no due to the first courthouse requires you to do crime scene set up, and you have to turn it on when you enter the church

[@deadly5881]

@Ender3667 but the church gun still needs scanning

[@lnerfan4468]

@@deadly5881 you know there a skip in the church so don’t need it

[@arkhamsvengeance676]

@KingJC nice! Impressive 👏

[@twistedvtuber9894]

Shout out to the video time stamp saying Retail Ghoul

[@quwillsnow1968]

you really are a hidden gem

[@ClownPuncher139]

Thank you!

[@l.pietrobon3925]

None of this would have hapenned if Rocksteady would have added the multi batarangs from Asylum >:(

[@enasboghdady7265]

@Arkham Pro They had it tho

[@enasboghdady7265]

@Arkham Pro Obviously I didn't mean BAC had the mutli-batarang, I meant BAO and BAK had it as well

[@enasboghdady7265]

@Arkham Pro Ah, okay then

[@SimonVaderSays]

Loving the Arkham content! It’s inspiring me to do some challenges myself!

[@ClownPuncher139]

Nothing's stopping you! Go out and think of the stupidest challenge possible!

[@thefilmrookie3099]

Fun fact when I first played this game back when I was a young lad, I didn’t know how to quick explosive gel. So I had to deal with this the same way.

[@ClownPuncher139]

But the game tells you how to do it during the fight?

[@brun0z691]

@@ClownPuncher139 kids never listen lol

[@FALLN-]

Can you beat batman arkham city with out running

[@shattikbruh4948]

U can’t because at the beginning is requires you to jump

[@spurslegacy]

@@shattikbruh4948 I don’t think you have to run to jump. If you go to the very edge of a ledge, you’ll automatically jump the distance when you press jump

[@brucewayne4036]

@@spurslegacy Yep uts true

[@brucewayne4036]

@Michael Kiely You can use grapnel or line launcher

[@brucewayne4036]

@Michael Kiely New game plus and yes you can use the line launcher on the tall water container then you can simply glide

[@Julius_Strife]

Really like the more chronological order, keep up the good work!

[@legocommanderwolffe8383]

I would like to see a run for knight because it has the electric enemies you gotta beat with a batclaw

[@ClownPuncher139]

You are completely right! I totally forgot about the unique enemy types in Knight that require quickfire gadgets. Guess I've got a new run!

[@legocommanderwolffe8383]

@@ClownPuncher139 I think there are like 2 or 3 enemies like this in knight, the electric and charging guys, pls correct me if I'm wrong

[@ClownPuncher139]

@@legocommanderwolffe8383 If I recall correctly, the electrified guys, the stun-brutes, and charging enemies. But the chargers are just regular enemies doing an attack where we can instantly KO them. The electrified guys require the Batclaw and the stun-brutes require the REC. That should be all.

[@legocommanderwolffe8383]

@@ClownPuncher139 I'd like to see a run tbh I never encountered the stun brutes only the riot shield and blade brutes

[@ThermalLime]

@TheMadTitanProductions you have to fight the stun brutes in the final fight on GCPD.

[@highlightermarca-texto3281]

Isn't if funny how you do damage to clayface by throwing ice at him, then do more damage by burning, and somehow he's frozen up at the end?

[@ClownPuncher139]

It's always been confusing, but I guess you can't have Ice bombs without Mr. Freeze.

[@thegrapethief5514]

I guess it’s just generally wearing him down mentally and making it harder for him to reform

[@JGAMES_44]

I like the mr freeze music in the background

[@shattikbruh4948]

Underrated channel

[@KmartNotWalmart]

I’m going to try this challenge out I’ve played through the games for years and I’ve never done a challenge run before. It should be fun

[@Thebigdawrg]

Another great vid keep it up!!

[@ClownPuncher139]

I intend to!

[@wuhoh5274]

I didn't use them in my first playthrough and beat it just fine so it's weird seeing people take this as a challenge Also great video very interesting

[@calebmangold6355]

Here's a crazy idea: can you spray explosive gel on all three generators when Solomon Grundy's health bar is all the way down, meaning he's stunned and he won't attack. This happens in between phases 1 and 2, and phases 2 and 3, meaning, in theory, you could beat phase 1, spray all three generators, then once phase 2 starts, detonate them, followed by you reapplying explosive gel while Grundy is stunned so you can detonate it on the final stage. Would this work?

[@ClownPuncher139]

That's an interesting theory that might actually work, too. Though, I also have a feeling the game accounted for this in some way, but it could be possible.

[@calebmangold6355]

@@ClownPuncher139 Hey, if you figure anything out, let me know. I'll make sure to tell you if I can get around to testing it out.

[@arkhamtony3775]

@@calebmangold6355 I tried this out and the gel despawns at the start of every phase

[@calebmangold6355]

@@arkhamtony3775 Thx for letting me know

[@krystynashultz5719]

It took so much out of me, I had to look up all the ways to beat freeze in NG+

[@justonicastnimr6278]

When I was young and first played this series I didn’t know about quickfire gadgets and played without it the Grundy fight was my biggest pain as well as the clay face fight

[@alphyy3107]

I didnt even know I could use them my first playthough when I was a kid, beside the batarangs

[@lonesome126]

Now seeing this video it makes me think I played the whole arkham series wrong, only time i really used quickfire gadgets was in the clayface boss fight in city

[@Nono-hk3is]

Same

[@adamjfreefall9681]

Yeah unlike the others this one wouldn't be that much of a challenge for me as with Arkham Asylum being my favourite game I hardly ever use quick fire gadgets anyway unless I ether have to or just occasionally feel like it... I can't wait to see what the next one may be! 🤘

[@nicksarma2637]

i luv ur content man

[@tobiasgorgen7592]

Seeing the title did give me a light chuckle. I didn't even know there was such a thing as quickfire gadgets until after Protocol 10 in my NG+ run.

[@General_C]

How did you ever get past the steam pipes or Grundy!?

[@tobiasgorgen7592]

@@General_C aiming 👁

[@jonsnowgaming1171]

Dude you are criminally underrated

[@ClownPuncher139]

Thank you!

[@EwoxEnjoysLife]

i love it that u name ras retail ghoul

[@ThatARKHAMguy]

When I was young I didn't know how to quick fire explosive gel so I put it down slowly in the grundy fight but never died surprisingly

[@randomdude6719]

I’m stupid in video games sometimes so I didn’t realize there was a quick fire explosive gel when I first fought Grundy. I got till stage 3 then I realized the little hint at the bottom of the screen and I learned how to beat him lol. I’m stupid sometimes we all are

[@theslimmyjimmy]

I once defeated Grundy with no quickfire gadgets, but that was just because I was young and didn't even know how to use quickfire gadgets so yeah. It was a PAIN for me.

[@vitu626]

Arkham city It was literally the first game I played in my life and I didn't know how the Quickfire mechanics worked. It took me 2 weeks to get through that batrang session in the beginning

[@ItsOnlyConnor]

Can you beat batman arkham city without waynetech upgrades?

[@SonOfSaintDumas]

When me and my cousin played this and we forgot that you can quick fire gel. so we tried multiple times while going slow until we remembered that you can.

[@therealqaz5537]

I did get the Grundy battle until like 30 minutes later cause I didn’t know about the quick gel.

[@SplendidSuperman122]

Batman Arkham Games without Detective Mode?

[@danielluedits]

when I first played Arkham City I didn't know about quickfire freeze blast so i attempted to fight clayface without quickfire

[@Nico4Frank]

14:17 Had that before that hurts

[@CorndogGaming]

I though this challenge would be pointless but I then realised boss fights like grundy and ra's al ghul

[@levibetts6947]

I’ve been playing the Arkham games since I was a kid and I only ever quick fired the baterangs in combat until recently so this would probably be easy for me

[@th3b025]

it took me 3 days to defeat grundy when i was a kid cause i didnt understand how the quickfire gel worked. it wasnt until i threw my controller on the ground that batman did a quickfire and then i figured it out.

[@FrostyBliz]

Technically you can do it in a new save file, since the sonic batarang is an upgrade, you can scavange some riddler trophies and get it relatively easy.

[@handsomesquidward5160]

Liked and subscribed

[@cottle777]

I've done this.. kinda. Other than batarangs I forget the others (except grundy and clayface, when the pop ups tell you)

[@caiocouto3450]

as a dude who played arkham city the first time when was about 12 years old, i assure u can. nowadays I'm proud to say i play arkham games as a pro

[@blakespicer9234]

I so rarely use quick fire gadgets outside of Knight that it’s strange to me that everyone else uses them so much lol

[@joshuavis2736]

I wonder if the triple batarang would hit those switches properly. If you did it from a clean save then you’d have to do a lot of xp grinding. I gotta say using the sonar batarangs was incredible

[@ClownPuncher139]

The triple Batarang does not exist in Arkham City. It’s the only game to not have it.

[@joshuavis2736]

@@ClownPuncher139 oh I see. That’s really interesting actually.

[@AvonHertz]

When i was little i didn't know that the explosive gel had a quick fire so Solomon Grundy was 2x more difficult

[@thebuilder3594]

7:38 He went flying

[@stoictutors]

Dude I was playing the game for the third time before I knew that quick fire gadgets exist. No big deal

[@Tservator]

God bless my little self doing this cuz I didn't know about any quickfires except the battarang

[@janicesparks3182]

You know something funny he struggled with the grundy boss fight even though there was a pretty simple answer. So at the beginning of the fight, you may struggle, but after you do blow up the things on the ground while grundy was there waiting for batman to start punching him to start the next section of the fight before you did punch grundy you should have sprayed the explosive jel on the electric things so when the next section of the fight started you could immediately beat grundy and repeat

[@zsunner5287]

When i first did the solomon grundy fight i didnt use quickfire because i completely forgot that the quickfire gel put the gel on the ground so i just did it slow, i somehow didnt die and finished the boss fight

[@hedgehoginacanoe5838]

So basically what I do in every batman game because I keep forgetting they exist mid combat Hell I forgot the quick explosive gel in the grungy fight

[@bogusmosquito77]

so those switches are actually possible, at least on 60 fps, i used your strategy of batarangs and the batclaw, and i did it. i'm on the steam deck though

[@bejajajss7611]

Before I see this, o think this will be easy but time consuming; and the only challenge will be the Grundy boss fight

[@chessmaster2468]

You can actually do the final generator if you miss it just run up and use your coupke seconds of invinsiblity that you get when you get hit

[@Nono-hk3is]

This is how I always beat Arkham City

[@sweetheart2416]

The first time playing Arkham city when I was like really young I did beat it without quick firing because I didn’t even know what quick fire was in this game when I first beat it so yes it is possible

[@calebplays54321]

3:07 and unlike Batman Arkham origins, or Arkham Asylum batman doesn’t have double or triple baterang slot, where you can hold more than just one battling in Batman’s hand, Aim it and then throw it at multiple targets are goons

[@leannedannunzio450]

I tried activating the three switches without quickfire gadgets in the steel mill. Not playing it on new game plus and I was able to hit all three fast enough. Here is how I did it, I hit the first one with a remote batarang , then hit the second one with a regular batarang, then hit the third one with the batclaw. By timing Time this correctly in super quick succession, I was able to hit all three without quickfire gadgets not on new game plus. So it is possible to beat Batman Arkham city without quickfire gadgets without having to play it on new game plus.

[@irishladdie1500]

I don't think I intentionally used any quick gadgets other than smoke Bombs and batarangs throughout the entirety of the first City playthrough

[@IronBran123]

Question- what if you wouldve used the Remote batarang, turned it around in the steel mill, and then when its in the back of the room you exit control and try hitting the other two switches with the batarang and batclaw? There wouldve been more distance the remote batarang has to travel, giving you more time to hit the other two switches

[@ClownPuncher139]

I tried that, but there was never enough time to exit control and fire them off. If I was on mouse and keyboard and had better aim, maybe. But since I’m on controller, no.

[@IronBran123]

@@ClownPuncher139 Ahhh okay I got you, dang well thats too bad. At least its possible in NG+

[@pomax1464]

Good luck with that fucking Ra's fight

[@Cyberplays10]

first time i played this i didnt know about quickfire so i spent an hour beating him

[@TinyCat1015]

dude ur so underrated

[@protonicprotogen6304]

I did this challenge on my first playthrough when I was 12 years old

[@Shadydoesit]

What a lovely thumbnail

[@brucewayne4036]

4k ultra HD

[@adamtamer8767]

Honestly, when I played arkham city I didn't even use quickfire freeze blast

[@jonsnowgaming1171]

Can you beat city without evading?

[@marioandluigi396]

How did you get new game plus?

[@landonplaysgames6823]

I was 9 when i gor arkham city and never lerned the controls out side of grapleing punching and glideing. I dident think you could do that un till I replayed the games to 100%

[@riddlerofficial4665]

when i played arkham games for first time never do counter

[@darkshotmk3]

Out of curiosity wouldn't the multi batman upgrade have been available?

[@ClownPuncher139]

Multi-Batarang doesn’t exist in Arkham City. Only game that doesn’t have it.

[@jamesamey]

Wait, for that steam pipe section in the Steel Mill, are there not Multi-Batarang upgrades, or do they only work against enemies?

[@ClownPuncher139]

For some reason, Arkham City is the only game without Multi-Batarangs. As for why, I’m guessing they thought they had too many gadgets as is, but what do I know.

[@jamesamey]

@@ClownPuncher139 ah, I see. Still, very impressive how you managed to overcome it.

[@spy948]

14:51 is that a breaking bad reference ?

[@lukasskrypetz5667]

Would you be able to get enough XP by beating up random thugs before the steel mill to unlock the sonic batarang?

[@ClownPuncher139]

Possibly, but you would still need the Freeze Blast to be able to get close enough to the switches. Without that, the SB wouldn’t return to your hand fast enough.

[@thestorm2643]

Can you beat Batman Arkham (u choose) with no detective mode(except the "crime scene" detective mode)

[@NobodyMedia]

I was too stupid to figure out how to use quick fire gadgets so I know the answer is yes

[@prosandbros9651]

Before even finishing this video I know it’s possible because in my first play through when i was an idiot kid i never used a quickfire gadget I guess i just never got used to how you use them

[@prosandbros9651]

I forgot about the steel mill buttons but except those kid me did this challenge

[@johnytest1571]

Bro I literally never use quickfire ever, I only hit people with fists and kicks

[@lnerfan4468]

Do you know about the wonder tower skip where you can go to the top by using the grapple boost into the lift/elevator switch directions and glide to the top of the tower so the enemy’s don’t turn on so it’s much easier

[@ClownPuncher139]

Of course, but I’m not going to use game-breaking glitches to make the game easier. If I had wanted to, I could finish the whole game in 20 minutes by using the NG+ Wonder City skip. The point of these challenges it to keep as much of the game integrity as possible, and glitches like those used in speedruns breaks said integrity.

[@lnerfan4468]

​@ClownPuncher139 ah but the NG+ skip requires the quickfire freeze blast

[@pela10]

It is completly possible. In fact the first time I played arkham City i didn’t use them because I didn’t know i could use them

[@ClownPuncher139]

Well you would have had to on the bosses, which are pretty much the focus of the video.

[@frankjohnson3506]

grundie is tecnicly not braking the3 no kill rule cuz hes a zombie whos already ded

[@batmaninachair]

If you struggled, just use quickfire gadgets 🤓

[@hugoalvarez8307]

Excuse me? Quick fire WHAT?!?! I HAVE BEEN PLAYING ALL THE ARKHAM GAMES WITHOUT THEM (except the batarang). I had to spray fully the explosive gel on the Solomon Grundy fight. I don't know If I sould laught or cry

[@wiggard]

Can't imagine how someone called Hugo didn't know that

[@hugoalvarez8307]

@@wiggard I dicovered It last time I played Arkham City and now, I can't stop using It 🤣 Also yes, I build Arkham City, It was a *Strange* day

[@littlekris1098]

I figure it easier way to do it if you had to use a quick fire gadget you could have written down how many times you did

[@Krejii05]

Funfact, as a kid, i never knew quickfire was a thing

[@Km-pw9oc]

Uhhhh ... Why didn't you use the multi batarangs for the steel mill section?

[@ClownPuncher139]

Multi Batarangs are not in Arkham City. They're in Asylum, Origins, and Knight, but not City. Don't ask me why, I couldn't tell ya.

[@mrbigboy3056]

I knew the Grundy boss fight was gonna be the hardest shit ever

[@adammarch9604]

I thought it would be clayface

[@zekeram129]

Oh hey that's how I did it* as a kid

[@dylanclifton3893]

I beat grundy with no quickfire on my first playthrough

[@doger6531]

Wait can’t you slow down the remote controlled batarang then use the other two why didn’t you try that

[@ClownPuncher139]

You can, that was the first thing I tried, but it doesn't work. You can't exit the Remote Batarang fast enough to throw the others in time.

[@ThatGuyChoco]

Am I tripping because I swear you also made a video on Arkham City using ONLY Quickfire Gadgets

[@ClownPuncher139]

As of yet, I have not, but it is definitely on my list.

[@ThatGuyChoco]

@@ClownPuncher139 You probably did in an alternate Universe

[@beyblader5099]

7:38 Penguin Thug: *tries to open gun box.* Batman: *punches him* Thug: *goes shooting off to the right* Me, watching the video: Did that thug just go flying off the screen!?

[@ClownPuncher139]

Yes. Yes he did.

[@RodanBen]

No because in Solomon Grundy fight u need to QuickFile explosive gel

[@ClownPuncher139]

Would you like to prove that theory? Watch the vid.

[@tristan8305]

@@ClownPuncher139 my first playthrough, I hated solomon grundy because I didnt know about quick fire simply because I didn't want to read how to play. So no dive bombs(ras al gul showed me how to) takedowns, or quick fire gadgets. Silly me.

[@moistman6302]

Yes i beat them all pretty much without them cause its x and y

[@ultimatereaper5053]

sonic baterang can be used right off the bat as an upgrade

[@ClownPuncher139]

True, but you can’t get close enough to the switches without the Freeze Blasts.

[@arkhamtony3775]

The Sonic Baterang isn't available until you complete the predator section in the GCPD

[@jajie-yl4hu]

Can't you get sonic batarangs in a normal new game?

[@ClownPuncher139]

Yes, but you need Freeze Blast to freeze the pipes and get close enough.

[@goodquestion1209]

3:06 get the trip batarang or is that just asylum

[@ClownPuncher139]

Strangely, City is the only game without the multi-batarang. All the others have it.

[@goodquestion1209]

@@ClownPuncher139 oh

[@gavincushnie]

How about arkham city w/o detective vision?

[@adamlawther6356]

Sniper in the courthouse kills the run within the first 10 minutes. Possibly tracking the ninja through her blood as well if you don't know where she's going, though that's a fair bit later.