Can you beat Mother 1 without using PSI or Items?

[@boomkittyFX]

fun fact: you can beat the game with only Ninten and Lloyd. because you can skip Ana and Teddy.

[@McNibbler]

the first time i beat it i never even found teddy lmao

[@mrsnipo112]

Wait you can? Ive never made it through the game to meet ana

[@swampy725]

And other Fun Fact You can theoretically recuit Ana before Lloyd

[@sunscraper1]

That's what I did in my 1st run because I didn't know how to recruit her

[@jasongrote9114]

@@swampy725 how?

[@林泓旭-i1d]

Ironically, Jotaro does use PSI, since stands are manifestations of one’s psychic powers.

[@shoppingcart4174]

I like to imagine Ninten is doing the same thing. There is no way a boy can beat the shit out of an elephant with his bare hands. Ninten is actually manifesting his PSI into raw punching power

[@charbomber110]

@@shoppingcart4174 SMH you failed the challenge as soon as you reached level 2

[@theinbunch1380]

Yeah, from the perspective of non-stand users, Jotaro is pretty much using telekinesis

[@yellowpower3755]

I thought they were life energy?

[@林泓旭-i1d]

@@yellowpower3755 That would be the ripple powers, Stands are manifestations of the power of the mind, although to be fair, it’s more about the will than about the psychological abilities, but it’s a joke, who cares.

[@invisi-bullexploration2374]

I thought at first you meant Mother 2 and I was imagining Star Platinum giving Porky a proper sendoff. That's a very mentally soothing image. *PORKY MINSCH* *STATUS: PERMENANTLY RETIRED*

[@sweetwheatsy]

I audibly whispered "oh no" when I saw this video appearing on your page

[@jyoschiboi3166]

I don’t understand why these videos don’t have more views

[@shoppingcart4174]

It might be because of the video thumbnail that I put together in like 10 seconds, and that I don't talk in the video. I just don't feel like recording my voice for the video, and text is faster to follow along.

[@jyoschiboi3166]

Shopping Cart I think that these videos are pretty great honestly

[@photonsOrigin]

Because not even the Mother community liked Mother 1.

[@dimitar4y]

@@shoppingcart4174 eh eh. Text is a superior form of communication! Also you don't show naked booty and scream "I LOVE DEMOCRATS" so the algo nukes you.

[@wisemysticaltreeuser]

@@photonsOrigin 🧢

[@DootNootem]

Great video! I definitely wasn't expecting M1 to be unbeatable after seeing the Earthbound run, even with a level 99 party. I thought using the flea bag glitch in the Japanese version would work, but that counts as using an item, unfortunately.

[@photonsOrigin]

I have one thing to say about your pfp. Ninten's shirt is blue with yellow stripes, just like Ness.

[@DootNootem]

@@photonsOrigin Watch the Japanese MOTHER commercial, that's the interpretation it's based on.

[@consolebreaker6596]

I cannot imagine this run, right now im doing normal Mother 1 run, and its still hard

[@photonsOrigin]

Play the Mother 1 + 2 version, there's an easy ring.

[@wisemysticaltreeuser]

@@photonsOrigin cringe

[@nuggetpotato5471]

Theses an easy mode Rom hack and another one that adds the easy ring from the English translation of mother 1+2 They're both for the NES version

[@Lightpaladin720]

I still wonder why pippi is a party member because shes only playable for 5 mins

[@shoppingcart4174]

As much as I appreciate the unique stuff and understand the popularity of Mother 1, there is admittedly a lot of stuff that are wack once I replayed this game. Probably a good example of realizing a lot of bad stuff in a game once you take the nostalgia goggles off.

[@Lightpaladin720]

@@shoppingcart4174 yeah it's not the same as its sequels as its gameplay and the ridiculous end game difficulty also hurts it

[@photonsOrigin]

The Teddy bear counts as a member in EarthBound.

[@Lightpaladin720]

@@photonsOrigin no it's not because you can play as it, pippi you can for someresson

[@tammid8423]

@@photonsOrigin haha TEDDY bear

[@isaiahmarkthesecond7787]

Just saw this and the earthbound one! Great stuff! Keep up the good work!

[@puppytree6343]

Mother 1 is considered extremely difficult so I’m not surprised you can’t beat the game under theses circumstances. Still a entertaining good attempt

[@thefierypaladin126]

If I’m not mistaken, Earthbound Zero WAS an official translation, it just went unreleased.

[@jolerojosta]

Yes and it was called Earth Bound back then

[@toonlinkplays5961]

The official translation we got tho was earthbound begginings. it just released 24 years after the original Lolll

[@thefierypaladin126]

@@toonlinkplays5961 which is zero

[@theleonpasta7336]

@@thefierypaladin126 Zero is actually what the fans decided the call the translation to distinguish it from Earthbound on the SNES, because the translators originally planned for mother 1 to be called Earthbound in the U.S I think

[@coolblubird]

Game Theory: Ninten is Jotaro?????

[@TheRamblemanWhoSings]

that explains all of it

[@AnimeboyIanpower]

Honestly,I think Ninten would be more like Joseph Joestar.

[@heehaw575]

5:15 siren head in mother??

[@Octavius2323]

Breh

[@theimperfectgod7140]

Sing a melody... as sweet as it can be... [ Inexplicable horrors beyond our comprehension ] [ Pelo_Asgore_Scream ]

[@timarionorozco1692]

Ana: I am here guys Ninten: ana will be meat shield Ana: what? Ninten: just accept your role ana :/

[@andrewc.7071]

Maybe if teddy were on the team instead of loid, he could’ve survived the attacks?

[@shoppingcart4174]

Nope, unfortunately, it seems Giygas's attacks have a fixed damage, or seems to bypass defenses. Even if Teddy has more HP than Ninten and Ana, Teddy would still die before Giygas dies with the rate of how much damage he can do to all of them. This is based on the limitations of how much total HP the characters could have in the game.

[@jakubmotyl4172]

No

[@slimemoldfan]

based gyakuten kenji 2 music in the beginning

[@OfficialColinRidgway]

You can finish the game with Teddy, you just would’ve needed to immediately get to Mount Itoi, fix the boat, as well as have Eve get destroyed to get that melody. That’s when you get Teddy and kick the game’s ass.

[@shoppingcart4174]

Yeah, it would've been better if I did that. I was actually trying to do that, but I forgot the steps of how to do it. But either way, even if I did have Teddy, the amount of HP he has, even at level 99, wouldn't be enough to survive against Giygas, unless he had like a billion HP.

[@Vrabsher_-Supreme_Perhinther-]

@@shoppingcart4174Fun fact : Giygas has ♾ health , which scary .

[@mrsnipo112]

Shopping cart- just a bunch of kids beating things up with their bare hands *casually names an adult gangster*

[@amimm7776]

Correction 2: the correcting, sorry to be that guy, but there are some differences between the different version of Mother 1. > Begginings has a run button that speeds up the game like frameskip in an emulator, npcs included. > A couple places were simplified in begginings, this carried over to the GBA port. > In the magicant dungeon, the man that blocks the exit used to teleport you back to the entrance if you answered him wrong, this was removed in Begginings, not sure about the GBA port, though. > The ending was slightly changed in begginings. Some other miscellaneous changes include censored dialogue and Begginings having the wort translation since it was made 25 years ago. Fun facts: Pippi has the same stat growth as Teddy. You can avoid having to grind up Lloyd in the factory by leaving breadcrumbs in the rocket room and using them to remote teleport there while he's still alive. I'm pretty sure in some version of the game it's possible to skip Ana, probably in the original JP version only. As with the earthbound run, i'll add that this is probably possible if youlifted the equipment restriction, not so sure about a psi allowed run without items, but it's probably possible too if you're willing to savescum. This run may not have been as interesting as the Mother 2 run, but it's still cool to see someone recognize my favorite mother game (there, i said it). Now, the logical extreme is to take the challenge over to Mother 3, it's the easiest out of all of them and you'll be able to use Duster's thief items and Flint's power attacks to make it even easier, that said, you do need to use the knife during the drago fight, but i hope it won't be enough to invalidate potentially the most interesting run for this challenge. Also, good luck on the B A S S

[@oofley8346]

The Bass was easy lol

[@hdckighfkvhvgmk]

Lifting equip restriction specifically doesn't make this possible either, because giegue's attacks aren't affected by defense, nor any kind of psi defense.

[@waitressroyal]

>all of ninten's psi is pretty useless in a normal run anyway >not defense up betaing every fight with more than one foe i shiggy

[@toonlinkplays5961]

hands down the best clickbait on a video ever

[@vanilla8956]

I guess Ninten is going on the mothership then.

[@Eli_Pikaneon]

When i played mother 1 for the first time i actually didnt know how to get to the basement so i just didnt have any items and i didnt know how to buy any either so i literally fought the enimies like this until i came back to this game like 2 years later and actually knew what i was doing

[@Fosito]

Nunca se me ocurrió la idea de farmear con pippi ¡Debí hacer eso! Además de que no sabía que en emulador se podía acelerar el Farmeo, chale

[@hdckighfkvhvgmk]

but why... why would you do that to yourself...

[@teleportsbehindyou6580]

Jeezus where have you been my whole life

[@dougbobkings]

This guy really needs subs for this.

[@ИванК-к4ц]

Glad i subscribed, and thanks for the video

[@chickensandwich9977]

COME.BACK DUDE!!

[@DukeSR8]

I wonder would the run be any different if you'd kept Teddy?

[@LeadPoison1456]

You can't take teddy to the final boss because you need eve to progress I'm pretty sure.

[@KingCreeper-ob9jb]

My guess is that it might be possible if you get Teddy since he has more hp than Loid. But then that would be tons of grinding again just for the chance for it to not work

[@Mochi_Madness87]

This is pain.

[@Kitaws_kitkats]

fun fact: Shopping cart Named Lloyd, LOID.

[@dogebrownstonks]

Not surprised it's not possible. If you REALLY want to get technical, it's possible in the Japanese version via the flea bag glitch, since you can have Teddy and E.V.E , but whether if that would count as legit or not is up to you. While I'm not sure myself, maybe the Mother 1+2 translation via Easy Ring miiight make it possible, though I honestly don't know for sure. Good video though. I always find it interesting learning nearly useless information about some 1989 JRPG game nobody but people like me care about. lol

[@photonsOrigin]

I should probably have played the game before watching because I got lost by the time you reached Magicant.

[@voltron77]

Ninten’s psi is useful.

[@grilledchezcity9556]

Next you should see if you can beat the mother games with only psi

[@shoppingcart4174]

That would be a difficult one to do. Mother 1 is practically impossible unless I hack in Ana at the start. Earthbound could allow Ness to use PSI attacks at a pretty early level, but it also means having to use it sparingly and sometimes rely on RNG. Mother 3 is a similar case, depending on the chapter or how fast I get PSI attacks. It definitely is a challenge to try, but I actually think that one would be more tedious than the ones I did lol.

[@shoppingcart4174]

@@porpoise8160 Your one chance is at the very beginning of the game. Ness can't do anything at all to attack. However, if you bring King along, he can kill all the enemies for you. Just slowly grind your way until Ness reaches level 8, where he finally learns a PSI attack. Of course, King is not attacking with PSI, but if you were go with the definition of "Ness can only use PSI attacks", then that's the only way to do it.

[@PaulaJonez]

First. Ness was sans. AND NOW NINTEN IS JOTARO?!?!?!?!?!?

[@brendanrolfe4607]

It's gonna be a long day

[@guythatdosethingssometimes2651]

Why they make Pippi so strong?

[@LeadPoison1456]

They gave her the stats of teddy

[@guythatdosethingssometimes2651]

@@LeadPoison1456 ok but why tho

[@tater535]

Wait you used life up

[@shoppingcart4174]

What's the time stamp that I used it?

[@tater535]

8:55

[@shoppingcart4174]

@@tater535 At this point in the run, I already proved beating the game without PSI was impossible. So, my next test was to reach maximum strength with any means possible, which includes using PSI to gain EXP quickly and healing up to max HP. This way, I could properly test to see if it was even possible to beat the Giygas battle without PSI nor items, even at maximum strength.

[@tater535]

@@shoppingcart4174 o.k just wanted to know if that was considered o.k in the run

[@mmmapplesauce1673]

Before watching this, i don’t think it’s possible at all. Giegue hits like a truck and without healing it’s pretty much unbeatable.

[@tarragon112]

0:13 actually eb0 is a PROTOTYPE THAT WAS GOING TO BE RELEASED IN AMERICA. the reason it didn't was because of lack of marketing

[@shoppingcart4174]

Oh right, that was a mistake I wrote. It was informally titled "Earthbound Zero" by the fans. But the actual game itself was a prototype, so yeah, you are correct.

[@valentinfernandezcejas6590]

Damn, I barely managed to complete this game in a normal run in like 6 FRICKING MONTHS (well, mainly due to te factthat I didn't play it daily... or did I? I don't remember). I can bet this was close to insane (or no idk). You deserve a high respect from me.

[@theworldofisaac5077]

Play mother 3 like this

[@dreamingsoul4722]

Boy, the masked man fight would be literally impossible (If he discards using the magipsyes' mementos)

[@karuma6635]

Saw this on reddit, really underated tbh

[@MentalistMillennium]

Man, that ñittñe girl (pippi) is the stronger girl in the world. not for nothing her name is pippi

[@PAAF2005]

Hold on a second... Doing this with the easy ring doesn't count as a No item nor PSI, right?

[@shoppingcart4174]

I did this run without the easy ring. I guess if you want to do an easier version of the challenge, you could use the easy ring. Though the point of this challenge was to combine every restriction I could think of to have maximum difficulty.

[@PAAF2005]

@@shoppingcart4174 thank you so much! And yes, I'm new playing Earthbound beginnings (I've played mother 3 and 2 before) and I got that kind of hard, because I hadn't knew where to go XD

[@shoppingcart4174]

@@PAAF2005 Mother 1/Earthbound beginnings is definitely the most difficult, especially because of a lot of unfair mechanics. According to the creator himself, he said when creating the last area, he didn't have anybody test out the difficulty, and just packaged whatever was programmed.

[@PAAF2005]

@@shoppingcart4174 oh, wow! Thanks for the information!

[@goofy100phpguy]

how about mother 3 ?

[@shoppingcart4174]

I've actually finished getting the footage for the run. I am currently making the video for it now.

[@incredibleike9469]

I didn’t actually know how to get into the basement so I technically did the first part of this challenge

[@jakubmotyl4172]

Talk with the dog

[@incredibleike9469]

@@jakubmotyl4172 I figured that out 😑

[@Fosito]

I didn't even use items and I didn't know it was psi, I was like that until the cemetery that I discovered that I could be cured with psi, even so I only used it for that because I didn't know I had the other abilities lol and so I spent most of the game until I got to the desert.

[@deez6683]

Mother 1 if it was good

[@jonathanplooij3666]

cool

[@renstrout]

Do mother 3

[@shoppingcart4174]

It is already made. You can find it on my channel as the latest video as of now.

[@pepe_felipe]

TL;DR Watch the video

[@AnimeboyIanpower]

Funny how you compare Ninten to Jotaro Kujo in the thumbnail, because I did some comparative research between MOTHER and JoJo (since both Ninten's family tree and Jotaro's family tree have a married couple named George and Mary). George and Mary in both MOTHER and JJBA had an adopted child as well as a biological child. George and Maria in MOTHER adopted Giegue, while George and Mary Joestar adopted Dio. The biological sons being Ninten's Grandfather (MOTHER) and Jonathan Joestar (JJBA). The biological sons eventually get married to their respective wives (Ninten's Grandfather to Ninten's Grandmother in MOTHER, and Jonathan Joestar to Erina Pendleton) and they have children of their own (Ninten's Father in MOTHER, and George Joestar II). Ninten's Father and George Joestar II find someone they love and marry (Ninten's Father marries Carol and George Joestar II marries Elizabeth/Lisa Lisa). Carol and Lisa Lisa then have children of their own (Carol has Ninten, Mimmie and Minnie, and Lisa Lisa has Joseph Joestar). In conclusion: Ninten would probably be more like Joseph Joestar than Jotaro (and even then, Joseph used magic in some form).

[@shoppingcart4174]

I actually didn't think about that comparison lol, but that makes more sense. I just simply thought "Ninten is a kid, but can beat the shit out of everyone with his bare hands. Ninten must be using some punchy stand ability to have this power. Therefore, he is the same as Jotaro".

[@waluigiluigi1]

It's Lloyd not "Loid"

[@redspear007]

It's both actually.

[@FinalMegaFangirl1230]

The actual correct way to spell Lloyd is Llwyd, since it means grey or grey-haired in Welsh.

[@redspear007]

@@FinalMegaFangirl1230 I assure you you are the only person who spells it like that

[@FinalMegaFangirl1230]

@@redspear007 so everyone else in Wales or England doesnt?

[@buttering0]

Ah Earthbound beginnings The way I first played it. Like an idiot

[@bluetophatanimations]

69 sub

[@OCBased]

yeah Ness could beat the shit outta Jotaro

[@mollz3704]

You cannot.

[@JulianJoel-b6v]

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