Can you Beat Pokemon Gold/Silver with Just a Shuckle?

It's got nearly the worst Atk, Speed, Sp. Atk, and HP. And that's all we're using?!
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[@ALittleMessi]

Imagine having legs and getting outsped by a cocoon

[@isaacleillhikar4566]

I supose it can reinforce its cocoon faster that that thing moves an inch.

[@WeFlashPeople]

I'm here with a kidney stone, out from work probably the rest of the week, and when I saw this thumbnail all I could think was, "well, at least someone's having a worse time with a rock than I am"

[@ElucidYT]

Congratulations, you've most certainly won the best comment of the day award.

[@teeopiskelija6544]

@@ElucidYT Agreed! It's too bad youtube prefers memes over good old puns :(

[@parkeryup]

holy fuck

[@TheForeverRanger]

I have had a couple and while the back pain sucks, the worst part is when it gets to the urethra and you try to pass the damn thing.

[@WeFlashPeople]

@@TheForeverRanger Weirdly enough, in my last kidney stone experience, I didn't even feel it when I passed it. I just pissed one day and looked into the little funnel thing and there it was. Doubt I'm going to be that lucky this time around.

[@syndere6755]

As a great man once said, "dont fuckle with Shuckle."

[@seelchan8217]

171 likes and 0 replies

[@T-Blur]

@@seelchan8217 you ruined it mate

[@starkadex3530]

He don't chuckle

[@seelchan8217]

@@T-Blur 😳

[@Hoaxe__]

Fr tho. I was also going to say this

[@kirbydude9]

Karen's dialogue about weak and strong Pokemon makes sense after she gets solo'd by a Shuckle

[@noodletribunal9793]

i like your pfp!

[@halfpace1462]

@@noodletribunal9793 i don't

[@wellshit9489]

You dont fuckle with shuckle

[@cursedcat6467]

@@halfpace1462 yeah the name is much better

[@bigpoggers6507]

@@wellshit9489 Just like you don't frickle with a sickle

[@teaganwalsh7011]

"Zubat was no walk in the park either" first time that's ever been said.

[@maestro9765]

You guys have never heard of Kadabra it seems.

[@isabelbimberg1342]

"solo shuckle run" well, that will be hard, but once it learns power trick--- "in gen 2" oh no

[@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic]

I use Power Trick Shuckle in Trick Room on Showdown and it's so funny to troll people with it 😆

[@momoTAMAGOTCHI]

@@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic I ladder climbed with one on a shuck support team. Like nothing but wish protect mons. Shell smash with rest, power split, and infestation and grip claw. Called it God King Shuckle.

[@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic]

@@momoTAMAGOTCHI That sounds miserable to play against, but genius to use 😆

[@momoTAMAGOTCHI]

@@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic I didn't do great lol but people were so irritated that they wouldn't switch out after infestation wore off and they'd basically let me pick the mons off for free and forfeit. Plus with contrary shell smash you're max Def after like three. As long as you catch the incoming mons with power split it makes them super weak even if they boost along side you.

[@AndrooTheNerd]

@@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic easily one of my favorite, trolly combos to run. 😎

[@Ohfishyfishyfish]

55 minutes of a man bowling his blue rock with a worm inside against other people's monsters.

[@magicmanplays2401]

This may be the greatest possible description of this video.

[@BoBz013]

we've all been there, man

[@solidsnakeandgrayfox]

Best comment

[@MLPGamer44]

Wii bowling announcer: STRIKE!

[@evanfontenot7000]

Pokemon in a shuckle shell

[@infinite_sun_rays]

Red: "I fear no man, but that thing," (shows a shuckle rolling across the ground) Red: "It scares me."

[@minnesotanfreedomist3147]

I like to think he just flung himself off the mountain at that point. His entire team decimated by only a sheld worm.

[@cherkv]

@@minnesotanfreedomist3147 it make sense why hes never seen again

[@SerabiiBot]

@@minnesotanfreedomist3147 He got launched off of Mt Silver by a rolling juice worm!

[@AwesomeHairo]

What he really said: Red: ..., ... Red: ...

[@minnesotanfreedomist3147]

@@AwesomeHairo Don’t forget Golds amazing comeback... Gold: .... Gold:!

[@ohernrf]

Jrose11: “Seriously, I could not hand pick a worse Pokémon for a solo challenge.” Shuckle with Rollout “...and I took that personally.”

[@christopherfleetwood5252]

Driftloon: and I took that person

[@Lord_necromancer]

@@christopherfleetwood5252 this made me chuckle more than it should have 😂

[@Mattchu.the.Pikachu]

Shuckle turned into Micheal Jordan 🤣

[@Colonel_RamRod]

@@christopherfleetwood5252 this man deserves the pokemon humor award.

[@christopherfleetwood5252]

@@Colonel_RamRod ☺️ Thank you so much, you’re too kind! ☺️

[@JonahUniverse]

I was once so tilted by losing a nuzlocke to Whitney that I said screw it, im gonna just catch a Miltank and use her moveset to beat the whole game since it seemed so OP. Well it was, basically swept every battle with defense curl + rollout.

[@rainbow_vader]

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em

[@wazzledog1007]

"Well, I want to try one thing." Is it time for toxic stall? "You see in celedon city is the TM for curse..." Guess the rollout hype train has no breaks.

[@jimmicrackhead12]

"Brakes"

[@dbickfordduane]

@@jimmicrackhead12 can't stop for breaks either

[@jennytalia6724]

@@jimmicrackhead12 u cant break this rock. Especially with gen 2 sleep talk Edit: Holy crap I can't believe he used max power rollout damn, but for real rest talk > all

[@solidsnakeandgrayfox]

Yep

[@aurafox1]

There is something hilarious about the combination of Shuckle's back sprite, Rollout, and battle animations off. He's just casually watching as all of his enemies crumble at his feet.

[@serge2cool]

YA DONT FUCKLE WITH THE SHUCKLE Ezkill

[@CaridorcTergilti]

Shuckle: "They see me rolling, they hatin' "

[@hugoromagnoli5441]

I came here for this

[@DragoniteTrainer]

"Hard as a rock"

[@zes3813]

wrgg

[@TwoHeadedMeerkat]

Shuckle, facing Bugsy: "Call an ambulance, call an ambulance!" Shuckle, facing Whitney: "But not for me!"

[@JEEBUSxHIMSELF]

just thinking about shuckle LITERALLY rolling over every pokemon in TWO regions

[@WobblesandBean]

_Rollie rollie rollie_

[@maxblack2347]

Imagine you're Red, you're literally the best trainer in the world and have trained for years to get to where you are and then some guy just comes up with a Shuckle, sets up some curses and uses rollout and completely destroys you. Ouch.

[@CorpusChristiCarol]

thats why you dont fuckle with shuckle

[@desperationspray4403]

Red: Shuckles im in danger

[@dailinelily]

I wouldn't know if I'd be more impressed with them being able to do all of that or be more annoyed with myself that I got beaten by them.

[@maxblack2347]

@@dailinelily I’d definitely rage quit Pokémon at that point I think

[@cyanideytcuriousseadoggo]

@@dailinelily Me: I’m kinda shocked tbh. I’m definitely seeing how I can not lose to that in the future.

[@garrettreven5144]

42:06 Oak's wisdom passed onto the POKEMON LEAGUE CHAMPION: "Look for Pokemon in grassy areas!"

[@nox_luna]

champ: sorry im not interested in the dex at this time, i main shuckle.

[@redkun5]

"There is the TM curse" And that's how Jrose understood how the competitive scene of gen 2 worked.

[@abarette_]

accurate lol

[@aminadabbrulle8252]

Curse + RestTalk + STAB.

[@mvm8816]

how much is a max roll out + def curl + curses crit?

[@luco4222]

@@mvm8816 for simplicity sake, lets assume that shuckle normally has 1 third of Tyranitars Attack. Actually, Shuckle has more then a third, but just go with it. Defense Curl Rollout Turn 3 has 240 Base Power. Rock Slide has 75. 240/75 = 3.2 aka 3.2 Rockslides, meaning Turn 3 DefCurl Rollout does the same damage as Ttar with Rockslide. Actually its a bit more. Turn 5 is 4x that, so its like a +6 Atk Ttar with Rock Slide. Then take that Damage x4 because the calculation now was for a +0 Atk Shuckle, and then that x2 for the Crit. Thats a LOT of Damage Edit: After looking at Showdowns damage calculator for a bit, if the other Pokemon is +0 Def the only Pokemon with a Chance to live this in Gen2 is Steelix, and even that is a range. More then that, we are hitting some sort of Damage Cap on not so tanky, weak to rock mons.

[@shadowtitanx3962]

You know there's more than just Curse + RestTalk. Notably, Raikou + Zapdos Thunder Spam (Missing Thunder isn't a big deal compared to modern Gens), Cloyster Spikes, Thief/Steal Lefties, Explosion Offensive from Gengar, Steelix, Exeggutor, and Jynx being a legitimate threat in modern GSC.

[@austinhall3937]

"Who knew rollout was so good" _laughs in Whitney_

[@ProtoMario]

Love me some Rollout, Def curl and Rollout is nuts.

[@VCiPz]

Shuckle looked OP!!

[@camrenstevens317]

Slap a metronome on that bad boy and your the juggernaut

[@stacy__fakename]

@@kevinclark26 Even a cube will roll if you kick it hard enough

[@FR099Y]

Shuckle such low speed. Oh Curse does what now? TYVM. Def Curl Rollout with Curse at the end was amazing LOL The little shuckle that could

[@jek__]

​@@kevinclark26 But shuckle is one of the roundest pokemon in existence, other than like, perfect sphere pokemon. It can pull its arms and head into its shell

[@dropinota]

I'm surprised he never mentioned that Rollout was STAB, meaning that the 5th rollout is actually 1440 base power.

[@aequilibrium4028]

30 / 60 / 120 / 240 / 480 * STAB 1,5 = 720 base power? If its crit it gets 1440 and super effective 2880^^ but i think with defese curl it gets even doubled so in this case you are right and in the end it could be 2880 *2 = 5760 right?

[@ausar4148]

@@aequilibrium4028 correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t stab multiply the power of every hit, not just the last one? Assuming rollout multiplies on top of stab bonuses, of course

[@aequilibrium4028]

@@ausar4148 Yea you are right! I was just talking about the power of one single hit. Of course the numbers change. You have 30 base power. But actual it is 45 because of stab, making it: 45 / 90 / 180 / 360 / 720 for rock types. Every individual hit can be crit (x2) or very effective (x2) or double effective (x4) like vs Arkos or Lavados (4x) weakness. So i think max power with rollout would be: 480 base power (5. hit of attack) x stab = 720 * 2 (crit) * 4 (double weakness) * 1,1 (rock item hold) = 6336! I think there is a scenario with pikachu and gyarados: Thunder 120 base *2 (charge attack first) * 2 (crit) * 4 (4x weakness) * 2 (special item for pikachu) = 3840. some of the factors where just added later into the game !

[@mrcombustiblelemon2902]

@@aequilibrium4028 you forgot the defense curl x2 multiplier bonus to rollout

[@aequilibrium4028]

@@mrcombustiblelemon2902 yea so many multipliers^^

[@ForeverLaxx]

I wish they'd stop giving Bide to high defense/low HP Pokemon. It's completely backwards to what you want from that move.

[@scionoobydoo5929]

Like Blissey?

[@autobotstarscream765]

Am I the only one who really wants Wobbuffet to get Bide and Metal Burst?

[@Gnolte]

@@autobotstarscream765 metal Burst ok but bide? Counter and mirror coat are better no?

[@tuckinatorinator787]

@@autobotstarscream765 if you want a good counter Pokemon Wobbuffet really has no competition. When we see a defensive tank who specializes in giving back everything it takes that isn't Wobbuffet let me know.

[@autobotstarscream765]

@@tuckinatorinator787 Ikr? So if Game Freak wants Bide to work as an actual move, give it to Wobbuffet. Then again, Game Freak probably gave up on Bide since iirc, they deleted the move entirely from SwooSh.

[@Danelius90]

16:18 "it's taken until Jasmine for Shuckle to get... Stuckle" Me: _facepalm_ Also me: _subscribe_

[@saboteuroo4899]

Best pun ever! 😥

[@TayoEXE]

I'm imagining Shuckle just rolling into his enemies who are much stronger than him and them going flying.

[@roastingnerd8545]

Team rocket is blasting up agaiiiiiiiiii...iin

[@darrellwillis4871]

Smash bros. Style

[@HannibalKantter]

Considering Shuckle's massive defense due to its shell, you're basically being hit by a 30cm wide bullet, so it makes sense

[@diogenessinopeus]

like those videos of turtles banging their shell agains a shoe or a dog

[@wwenze]

Imagine telling people this "I found a pokemon that can solo Red at lv 74" "What is it?"

[@TheOriginalJphyper]

You didn't mention another thing that makes Rollout even more overpowered: Shuckle gets STAB for it.

[@TheOriginalJphyper]

@Frankie Gregory What does that have to do with anything?

[@lucasrodriguez550]

@Frankie Gregory ok

[@lucasrodriguez550]

@Frankie Gregory ok

[@lucasrodriguez550]

@Frankie Gregory ok

[@watsonwrote]

@@TheOriginalJphyper an example of rollout being overpowered coming from a STAB pokemon

[@PadChennington]

good ol shuckle

[@destinysaiyan014]

Nothing beats shuckle

[@KanjoosLahookvinhaakvinhookvin]

great comment, Pad

[@intensedad2827]

hehe, it‘s shuckle

[@lelis8344]

I see what you did there!

[@elirantuil5003]

Oh boy it's Shuckle

[@odintheterridorable8097]

Rollout is so broken. That’s how Whitney used to sweep our teams, after all.

[@medleyshift1325]

Also you were almost always under leveled. There wasn't really a good place to grind and bugsy is pretty easy with a normal team.

[@lukasgestrine]

Thats like my most vivid memory from this game as a kid.

[@cougher9000]

@Edge Valmond most people choose quilava/cyndaquil which means they get to whitney with quilava

[@gengarzilla1685]

It's not just you, I've never had a Quilava lose against her either. Frankly I don't think Whitney deserves the hype.

[@thesuperwahash]

You catch an Oddish or Paras and put the Milktank to sleep that's how you easily defeat it

[@zylifv]

The best part about beating Red was that just after the climax of the battle we were greeted by a bunch of tweaked out Bellossom dancing quick as fuck on screen. Truly the greatest ending yet.

[@bsrocks6444]

Haunter: *hypnosis* Shuckle: "it doesnt affect shuckle" Jrose: How is it missing?! Shuckle looking at jrose in pure rage: "**It doesnt affect Shuckle**"

[@evankrueger7321]

Thank you for saying it

[@thetactician2787]

But why does it not affect shuckle?

[@metarex000]

@@thetactician2787 Because it missed xD The game writes it that way :/

[@rainpooper7088]

@@thetactician2787 Early Pokémon games just couldn’t make up their darn mind on these messages. You would never know whether a move legitimately had no effect or it just missed and the game felt like displaying the „It doesn’t affect X“ message instead of „X avoided the attack“. I think it wasn’t until Gen 5 that they cleaned that up properly.

[@Winasaurus]

@@rainpooper7088 There's so many redundant versions of that message throughout the series. I think in Red/Blue a pokemon that immediately breaks out of a ball is given the text "You missed the pokemon!". You didn't, you did hit, it just broke out right away. But so many people get confused thinking they literally missed and there's some accuracy check as well as an actual catch check. Add in "But nothing happened!" from splash, "It doesn't affect ____...." for 0x effective moves, "______ missed!" for misses, "_____ avoided the move in time with your shout!" for affection-based misses. And they are literally all just ways of saying that nothing happened from the action that took place. I can see why a little bit. The specificity in "It doesn't affect ____" implies it DOES affect other pokemon, which is true. But then again, splash doesn't have 0 use as is implied with it's message, Z-splash raises attack by 3. The text to signify affection-based effects seems entirely for flavour, or maybe to indicate it's not just a regular one, to encourage more use of it. But it's not like I can actually make my pokemon dodge. A miss is a miss, regardless of the text.

[@BlackSalamander439]

JRose coming up with the most unconventional strats Gen 1: Badge boost glitch Gen 2: Defense curl rollout Gen 3: Transform level up

[@WhitedeathSN]

You know this will be a good one, when you have 50% of the game done, nearly and you are just 40% into the video.

[@silverrey7379]

43:04 Lt. Surge's incredible strategy: LOCK ON SWIFT

[@drakesdrum1]

well you wouldn't want swift to miss

[@bandalodyugitube]

What a swift observation you've made

[@corporalkills]

XD I didn’t even catch that

[@abarette_]

yes.

[@aminadabbrulle8252]

I mean, in gen 2 Swift no longer hits Pokemon in the middle of Dig, and Shuckle learns Dig.

[@PS1Fan1991]

Some say that after this, Shuckle realised that his powers were too great for him to handle and he went on a quest to understand how to control his powers.

[@ryanmann5497]

Wow, I knew that defense curl + rollout was strong but I didn’t expect shuckle to be able to solo the entire game

[@briangalindo2]

40:59 "What is this, Gen 1?" No, because if this was Gen 1, Shuckle would never crit.

[@RaynmanPlays]

Game Freak designing gen 2, probably: "Hey, you know what kids love? Opponents that randomly make them unable to hit their attacks 70% of the time."

[@Ghi102]

All about extending the playtime

[@MyCloudGaming]

I think this is the reason the hypnosis missed. I think this clause supercedes the guaranteed hit that hypnosis was supposed to have at like 13:40

[@somedogsarecops2354]

@@MyCloudGaming he was referring to how so many boss trainers in gen 2 use evasion/accuracy cheese to make their fights more difficult. But what you said is correct.

[@MyCloudGaming]

@@somedogsarecops2354 oooh okay I see now, I totally misread. Thanks!

[@notsoaveragenerd]

Y'know, I've never appreciated how much more engaging these videos have come since you do show failed battles now. I used to put these on in the background. Now I usually watch these fully, from start to finish. Nice work!

[@Stoneffa]

Love that he makes it a shiny shuckle and just doesn’t mention it 😂 the silent flex. Let the sparkles speak for themselves.

[@verniy_6595]

Because of the way shininess is calculated in Gen 2, a shiny Pokemon always has a perfect Attack IV. That's probably why he did it.

[@spindash64]

@@verniy_6595 Actually, it doesn’t. It has DVs of 10 in most stats, but can have multiple attack DVs

[@rembramlastname3631]

Back when i played Blue as a kid, the only thing i wanted to see was "It's super effective!" I had no clue about strengths and weaknesses.

[@agonleed3841]

🤣 me too

[@ederchvideos]

HP Grass was actually not that lucky. Shinies always have HP Grass or Dragon.

[@FernandoRafaelNogueiraReis]

That's some interesting spaghetti.

[@Shadowdoctor117]

Interesting, why is that?

[@caliburnleaf9323]

@@Shadowdoctor117 Shinies in gen 2 are based on the IVs of the pokemon. Hidden power is *also* based on the IVs of the pokemon. Two things being derived from the same data set naturally means there's going to be patterns that emerge.

[@aedd3307]

it's still better to have hp grass over dragon

[@Scourge728]

@@caliburnleaf9323 gender is also determined by DV's (gen 2 IVS) in gen 2, which is why pokemon with the gender ratio of the starters can never be a shiny female in gen 2

[@Error403HRD]

"Karen, as the name suggests, is the worst." (Warning: This thread has become toxic, avoid if possible)

[@wasneeplus]

I feel so sorry for everyone who got that name back when it was just a normal name.

[@KanjoosLahookvinhaakvinhookvin]

IT'S THE FUNNY NAME IT'S THE NEGATIVE NAME FROM REDDIT MY FAVORITE OH MY GOSH HATING K*RENS IS SO FUN!!!

[@Error403HRD]

@@KanjoosLahookvinhaakvinhookvin It was literally just a line from the video I found mildly amusing, calm tf down Karen

[@marelelupalb4042]

Karens know their fathers,what about Sheniqua and Tyrone?

[@Acacius1992]

@@Error403HRD Found it funny honestly, short and simple :). Only Problem is there are always some re(ddi)tards who take it to far.

[@thesuntitan]

I swear to God you're the only KZbinr that makes me stop anything I'm doing to watch

[@yampolskie]

This is so relatable LOL

[@nmyster3201]

Agreed

[@sd80mac]

Truth

[@ciphercdr3349]

Shuckle be like: Lets rewritte Bowling history!

[@nox_luna]

hes like roman from GTA4

[@kenb2957]

Such a bummer that my favorite gen, especially for how it opens up and becomes super non-linear, has such a garbage Elite Four that it's not as good for these challenges as it could be

[@youareafool6884]

I've been using a randomizer to hand pick my starter (still making rival get a super effective counter). I'll also change wild encounters, as well as put a 20% level increase for all trainers. For reference, pryce had levels 40-45. I'm assuming the elite four will be at 50s instead of the low 40s. Give it a shot man!

[@spindash64]

Yeah, partly I feel it’s a victim of older game design doctrine, where it was acceptable to let kids “nose to the grindstone” to deal with bad luck. I know RBY’s E4 is less luck based, but you see the same thing with Agatha to be fair. I think another part is that making it so the AI has finite PP means that they can’t become invincible by spamming double team, so it’s a bit less cheap to let them use status and evasion than in RBY: eventually, they’ll run out of PP and struggle, and if you brought some healing supplies, you can ride the mess out. So I guess that’s a third thing: they still assume you’re going to be spamming the crap out of healing items or switch whenever you get slapped with status

[@peptlk]

"Are status moves still affected by the intentional 25% chance that they can miss" Afaik yes that's the case and the reason hypnosis missed after mind reader. This built-in AI missing chance seems to be separate from traditional accuracy of moves, with mind reader only skipping this traditional accuracy check.

[@Savariable]

When you enter the final battle of the postgame with 6 minutes left in the video, its gonna be good.

[@jlim193]

Would love to see your take on Smeargle one of these days

[@JerryAsano]

I agree!

[@rmrochael9210]

Only 1 smeargle won't make it. Smeargles stats are crap

[@HarukaLPs]

Pikasprey did a 6 smeargle run

[@sierrrrrrrra]

yes!!!!!!!

[@symphonymelody9235]

@@HarukaLPs twice! One of the best series I’ve watched on youtube

[@ariajohnson8107]

Back when Gold and Silver were the newest games out, I had the gift Shuckle named Shuckie, and I got it to level 100. The move set I gave it was: Rollout, Earthquake, Sandstorm and Toxic. Held item: Leftovers. Love Shuckle.

[@icarusmarioFAN]

I never knew about Defense Curl doubling Rollout's damage until today and I finally beat Pokémon Silver with only Togepi after I had lost all hope thanks to you. Your videos really motivated me to continue my run and I beat Lance just a day off of four years after starting my run. Maybe Togepi can probably beat Gold/Silver without items in battle (which I did use) but I'm not sure. Morty is the single hardest gym leader I have ever faced.

[@OasisCherryjuice182]

I just imagined a shiny Shuckle rolling around like an uncotrolable tank through the Elite 4 battle halls over and over again until it finally worked. I love you JRose, never change

[@nox_luna]

think of a pinball machine, shuckle is the ball and each bumper target is a pokemon, sounds devastating

[@3DTyrant]

@@nox_luna Shuckle: *PING PING PING PING PING!* Everyone: Dude, wtf just happened?

[@jamham9000]

lmao underrated comment

[@WobblesandBean]

The mental image is just too good, this tiny thing casually rolling sbout like a slow moving bowling ball, just demolishing everything in its way 😂

[@allyseg]

This dude is just casually using a shiny

[@magicmanplays2401]

In Gen 2 Breeding with the Red Gyrados gives a 1/30 chance of finding a Shiny, on top of that he wouldn't need to hatch the eggs because you can see if they are Shiny in Pokémon Stadium 2.

[@VerdantSerpents]

He probably used the breeding trick, but there's also a glitch in Gen 2 that allows you to both find, and turn shiny, any pokemon. I used it at great length when the VC came out, in addition to Gen 1 glitches letting me get level 1 gyarados and stuff

[@allyseg]

@@VerdantSerpents good to know

[@nite1858]

@@magicmanplays2401 1/64 not 1/30

[@Seymour_Richards]

@@VerdantSerpents it's a mod, he starts with it.

[@confusedcephalopod3496]

Unknown is even worse than Shuckle in every way, one move and that’s it

[@fifaworldcup1994]

*Unown

[@realprion]

@@fifaworldcup1994 Because you'd like to un-*own* it.

[@SincradTB]

It’s only reason for it existing is for collection purposes

[@flatziswashed]

two, actually. struggle

[@Eros1078]

I think unown looks cool

[@UnkindledTheUndying]

lol hell yeah, the first time I ever used a phanpy in crystal version, I used defense curl + rollout on Whitney and beat her in 3 hits. Rollout is so damn good in gen 2, it's really cool how defense curl doubles the damage. Nice vid though, I love this series.

[@NoobSniper]

That Lance fight was probably the craziest string of RNG I've seen in recent memory. Great run Jrose, love your narration and content 👍

[@stolasthegreatprince4166]

"5 Thunder hits" Werster wishes he would be that lucky.

[@DrifterMW]

"How much will rollout do?" EVERYTHING.

[@Earthboundmike]

Shame he unlearned withdraw. Pretty sure that also woulda doubled it.

[@Earthboundmike]

Ah. D curl did that

[@twolf7714]

*sees gen 2* “dunsparce, dunsparce, dunsparce, DUNSPARCE, DUNSPARCE, DUNSPARCE”

[@goros2289]

Dunsparce also learns rollout and defense curl 👀

[@ShinyTillDawn]

Dunsparce isn't that bad for a solo run.

[@spaceangelmewtwo9074]

I'll tell you what the worst Pokemon to do a Gen 2 run with is for me so far, and that's Paras. Paras is just awful. It's just awful. It's so slow! Fire and Flying types are so common! Both Lance AND Red have a Charizard! It is impossible to beat Red consistently! In fact, even with optimal strats at level 100, you've got a 1/250 chance to beat him on any given attempt. There is just so much that can go wrong, and worst of all, Quick Claw is mandatory due to a combination of Paras's horrible speed not allowing it to outspeed Charizard at any level, and the fact that Charizard can instakill it with either of its attacking moves. And you need a ton of sleep luck to win, because yes, you're never going to OHKO it with any of Paras's moves, and really, the best you can do is put it to sleep, use Slash, and still you need it to either stay asleep for all 5 turns, or you need it to stay asleep for 4 turns and get at least one crit with Slash, which is actually slightly less likely. Oh, and you're not done yet, because you need Espeon to not use Reflect, or you're doomed, and you need good Spore sleep luck against Snorlax, or else it's going to PP stall you with Rest. Hell, what caused the most resets for me was the fact that Pikachu can paralyze you or use Charm to make the rest of the fight impossible. If Pikachu uses Charm, Charizard is impossible even it stays asleep for 5 turns and you crit every time, so that's an instant reset right there.

[@twolf7714]

MaxTheMaximumGamer I was thinking more about this and I thought that hoppip might be particularly bad. But paras might be worse because it doesn’t get a recovery move other than drains and leeches, whereas hoppip has synthesis

[@tuckinatorinator787]

@@spaceangelmewtwo9074 I remember once back when Crystal was still relatively knew I had a paras that randomly became my strongest for a time by evolving with what I can only assume was a glitch. I caught it in the forest beat a Zubat with it and it's levels sky rocketed out of no where and evolved into a Parasect I think it was in the High 20's. I still remember that moment just for the confusion my kid brain had

[@ZorotheGallade]

"You think you outrolled me but I outrolled your outrolling"

[@SamLabbato]

great commentator voice. I could easily see you commentating other games/sports

[@scharroth6509]

Lance: U cannot defeat me! Shuckle: *evil shuckle*

[@helloiamenergyman]

Nice pun lul

[@javrami4883]

Lance: *shuckles* I’m in danger

[@helloiamenergyman]

@Coolskeleton95 oh btw ur spaghetti is 2nd best in the underground

[@Sion879]

The Pokémon gods have rewarded Jrose for his legendary patience

[@balance667]

Out of all the content makers and type of content out there on KZbin, I never thought JRose, a pokemon channel, would be my favorite lol

[@Kazmahu]

13:40 "How does Hypnosis miss right here?" In gen 1 and 2, status moves have a built-in chance to fail outright when the AI uses them. This is check before (and ignored changes to) accuracy. It's the games still figuring out how to balance things properly. So the Poliwrath flubbed the "AI handicap check" before it was allowed to benefit from skipping the accuracy roll. EDIT: Should've let the video run another minute before commenting XD

[@fayerayne9540]

Gen 2 was my absolute favorite gen. I remember one time I decided to catch a shuckle. I cannot explain how bad my luck was with catching that thing. I was about to challenge the elite 4, had all 8 badges. Never had a shuckle before so I decided to catch it and try it out! Well, I had over 100 ULTRA balls into it at this point, and was FURIOUS. I was practically seeing red. I gave up. I had one thing at my disposal to capture the oddly elusive shuckle, however. I legitimately used my master ball on a shuckle, my cousin thinks I'm an Idiot and still gives me a hard time about it. He may be right. I don't regret it.

[@spindash64]

It’s only stupid if you were going to use the Masterball elsewhere

[@agustinquiroga9541]

They don't give you one in the game for free?

[@spindash64]

@@agustinquiroga9541 Yes, but that Shuckle clearly fought for its place in the team

[@fayerayne9540]

@@agustinquiroga9541 They do but I wanted to get it myself. After a certain point I was just too invested in it to give up 😆

[@tonyt3955555]

its fine you ued thr best ball for the best pokemon in the game

[@StuntpilootStef]

I always wondered why Rival Fival the Eighth has a gym made of Lego.

[@1Thunderfire]

Oh thank God it wasn't just me who thought that!

[@tokenzero1020]

"Is Will, Koga, or Karen going to be the new Agatha?" Gamefreak: "Yes"

[@miles6492]

And Bruno is the new Bruno.

[@christianhanel2129]

@@miles6492 back by unpopular demand...Bruno!

[@MoneyHoneyBunny]

What a run, I think Gold/Silver is a lot funner to see because stuff is more balanced, less glitchy stuff etc, and the luck just feels better when it happens! This is proof that they designed Shuckle this way for a reason. It's meant to actually be dangerous... Water is really the only major worry for it since in gen 2 steel/rock still don't have a lot of moves and they all have non perfect accuracy. But yeah, Shuckle was meant to be a legit pokemon usable on a legit team. Hell, he mighta beaten Red easier than Charizard or Venusaur would have, finishing at level 75.

[@tonyt3955555]

shuckle is litteraly one of the best pokemon in gen 2 awesome design

[@yorshpointohh]

Just an underdog story about a boy and his pet turtle Always remember: DON'T FUCKLE WITH SHUCKLE

[@anonymousoff-brand7538]

but is shuckle a turtle?

[@KEATONSTOOS]

@@anonymousoff-brand7538 no, it's a slime mold

[@anonymousoff-brand7538]

@@KEATONSTOOS ok, first, sadly no("mold pokemon" is a more child-friendly mistranslation of it's actual species name) 2nd: actually. i was reading and found out what it actually is: it's a tequila worm! but originally, before the final game, it was a snake in a jar, specifically referencing snake wine.

[@pawsti]

Wobbuffet might be even worse for an itemless run, considering you only have a set amount of damage you can do without healing

[@YukeWeiss]

I literally had no idea how OP Rollout was, even without Defense Curl. I've always thought people whinged a lot about Whitney for no reason, but knowing how strong Rollout really is, it kind of makes sense. I love seeing you try other generations but agree that the Elite 4 being in the middle wrecks the flow of these Gen II videos. Especially challenge runs like this. I've said it to you a lot but I would love to see minimum battles GSC because it shows how Johto is structured and you can get right into Kanto and compare it to the previous generation in terms of battles required. You mentioning how there's over 100 really makes me curious. I'm not sure how I would feel if you were to like replicate all of Gen I challenge Pokemon into Gen II but I think this was a pretty good choice for a Gen II solo run. I'll watch most anything of this nature you put out in any generation, but I think trying challenges outside the box in other generations besides I is a good thing, although I am keen to see you get back to Basic Pokemon. Also you're so close to finishing the road 200k. I hope you hit it before the end of 2020 man because you absolutely deserve it.

[@scotchegg4268]

Everything about the Miltank is bullshit. 1) Miltank has very good stats, it has far better base stats the pokemon you would be expected to use. STAB stomp is 90 base power with flinch, on a fast pokemon. Also, it can heal.

[@windhelmguard5295]

@@scotchegg4268 whitney is a huge hurdle if you don't know the game very well, you can get an in-game trade onyx very early in the game and it's stupid high defence and it resisting rock completely walls miltank, ghastly can use curse to put it on a timer and hypnosis to stall, bellsprout also learns sleep powder early enough to use at this point, if you have a full team of six you can literally just defeat clefary, have gastly use curse on miltank and then just let it roll over your pokemon for four turns.

[@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441]

@@scotchegg4268 true but a female machop, female heracross, female haunter, and female female pokemon with sand attack can make quick work of the cow. its not broken as people say it is lol

[@scotchegg4268]

Miltank is far from unbeatable. It is an anomaly in terms of power and resilience that isn't seen early in other pokemon games.

[@D-Havoc]

@@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441 Well yeah, if you meta game, then of course it's not a problem. Thing is, people are referring to their first or more common experience when they aren't going out their way to get an elite team to dismantle her strategy.

[@qqq1581]

moral of the day: don't fu ...don't heckle with shuckle.

[@CynningSeline]

Werster go brrrrrrrrrrr

[@Salnax]

Shuck the haters!

[@Monchegorx]

Don't fuck with the Shuck

[@trumpet12345]

better buckle, here rides shuckle

[@kaischwarz6590]

Whats wrong with typing fuckle?

[@camrenstevens317]

Since no one else mentions it, I really appreciate your use of Pokémon conquest music in the background

[@cole_man.exe_2002]

Shuckle: Rolling around at the speed of sound! Got places to go! Gotta follow my rainbow!

[@rmrochael9210]

Fun fact: Shuckle can have the highest attack stat of all pokemon if it uses power trick

[@chlorobyte_projects]

Power Trick wasn't a thing until Gen 4

[@rmrochael9210]

@@chlorobyte_projects yeah but there's Shuckle in gen 4

[@daiyaga7675]

And then Shuckle dies when a Rattata sneezes at him

[@hisen3.146]

Power Trick doesn't affect Special attack. It is highest damaging Pokémon though, if it landed a +6 (attack) Defence curl boosted critical Ice Ball (with Protean/Libero->Huge Power) on a -6 (defense) Noibat affected by Forest's Curse. Capable of damage numbers somewhere in the 7 hundred millions if fully powered up.

[@gaia9020]

@@hisen3.146 Wow... better no one messes with the Shuckle then

[@ItsHolmYo]

The 25% of missing all status moves have is actually a 25% chance to fail, so accuracy really has nothing to do with it. Like trying to use fake out on second turn, it just fails. Love the content btw, keep it up!

[@harrypenate1091]

Clicked faster than Shuckle’s base speed Edit: under Trick Room

[@Krookzior]

I'm not sure if there's anyone here that's clicked slower than that :P

[@Verac1ty]

@@Krookzior Not neccessarily true! They could have clicked with a base speed of 200 and their comment would still hold up!

[@Ruinic]

Pretty sure shuckle will be the last viewer this video will get

[@Portersona69420]

So you clicked slower then a snail. Gotcha.

[@baszko6152]

High bar to beat not gonna lie.

[@Kudosute]

Sguckle's Rollout turned into Flame Wheel during that battle with Lance.

[@kzgc8y3n]

You know what I find so incredible about this channel? Well, one thing anyway - it's that we get a glimpse into the programming of the game sometimes, like with that Hypnosis miss 13:36 . I still don't understand fully, but I just know we are really pushing the game to it's breaking point without glitches. Respect.

[@pattyofurniture694]

But why not: "it's taken until Jasmine for Shuckle to finally buckle."

[@LiroRaeriyo]

and here i thought diabetes was gonna be the end of me, but THIS LAD just made me toss all my cookies at him.

[@jakerockznoodles]

I'm so glad you had this degree of success in your run. Shuckle is literally my favourite Pokemon of any generation. I find it utterly adorable, its gimmick amuses me and I just think it's fun to play with (though I'd never been mad enough to try a solo run with one 🤣) Seriously, possibly my favourite of your challenge runs so far!

[@KyleLeeman]

your consistent uploads have literally saved this year

[@reallyhotsalsa]

Thanks for the video! My only issue with Gen 2 is that the second round of gym leaders are so basic. I'd be open to seeing these older ones run on the newer versions as well. This is still entertaining and fun to watch though, so thanks again!

[@jerememe98]

Love seeing other generations on your channel. The gen 1 challenges are fine but it's nice to have a change of pace and to see games that I'm personally more familiar with

[@RyanAtlus]

"2 Crits, is this gen 1?" Shuckle would not be getting Crits with that speed, mate.

[@shadowtitanx3962]

Gen 1 Crits would be this for Shuckle: 5/256 = 1.95% 0.0195^3 = 0.00000741487 or 0.000741487% Since this is Gen 2, Crits happen 1/16 of the time instead of Base Speed. So, 3 Crits in a row would be approximately 0.0244%

[@nathanialeker7962]

What? Jrose is evolving?! Congratulations, your Jrose evolved into your favourite KZbinr.

[@drunkenhobo8020]

Until he's reviewing obscure British 80s tat on a brown sofa, he unfortunately won't be my favourite KZbinr.

[@alexanderwilson606]

@@drunkenhobo8020 is this an Ashens reference?

[@drunkenhobo8020]

@@alexanderwilson606 I'm intrigued that you think it could be anybody else!

[@Saif6301]

THEIR KNEES BUCKLE, WHEN I SHUCKLE

[@hail2jigglypuff168]

Jrose11: NO, you can't just spam Rollout and steamroll the game, your Attack is only 10! Shuckle: Lol, Rollout go brrr

[@PuppetsByPalmieri]

Great to see a gen 2 run! I really enjoy the gen 1 runs bc of the continuity of the comparisons but it’s nice to mix it up!

[@narutokid8621]

imagine being red at this moment lmaoo all that grinding to take an L to a shuckle

[@girandpiggy95]

taking the old wisdom of "work smarter, not harder" to the next level

[@Big85746]

...

[@phosphene6086]

If you're going to do more GS-runs, would you be up for doing another top 10 worst Pokémon prediction video like you did for RB? I really like that video, and also that you can refer to it in other runs! :)

[@maxsuttora]

I’m really happy to see that Shuckle beat Gastly’s time really deserved this is why you don’t F’le with Shuckle

[@Finngrinder]

Never fckle, ask Werster :D

[@adamkaris]

In a different game?

[@dmign]

its the internet, you are allowed to say Fuck.

[@dynastystar5515]

its a different game.

[@StevetheWizard2591]

Shuckle: "Oh, ow, call an ambulance, call an ambulance!" *Pulls out Defense Curl, Curse, Rollout, Rest set* Shuckle: "But not for me!"

[@stefanatg8544]

Perfect

[@n64p3]

This was a quality run and video. It’s so interesting to see how your editing skills have improved since the start of quarantine

[@Desty38]

46:20 Gen II Shiny's Hidden Power can only be Grass or Dragon, so it was only a coin toss in fact. But nice thinking still !

[@edoardoapra4303]

As the motto says: "Don't fuckle with Shuckle" Also gen 2 is the best gen. This video was great by the way

[@Luke-ne9un]

In regards to Hypnosis failing at 13:45 Gen 2 gives all enemy status moves a 25% chance to fail and that's not affected by Mind Reader. It's a weird decision, since Gen 2 is already a really easy game.

[@Imamotherfreakingavocado]

I forgot how nice Shuckle's shiny was, goddamn that is a nice blue

[@TreborSelt]

"But with Karen, as the name suggests..." 🤣😆🔥

[@gweegwee3]

Jrose, ill watch you commentating yourself eating a hotdog for 50 minutes. If it goes up on your channel, im watching

[@jimmicrackhead12]

Sounds gay

[@MIDO2802]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@lukemartin7029]

This comment made me laugh

[@supersaiyanzero386]

50 minutes? That's a big wiener.

[@jimmicrackhead12]

@@supersaiyanzero386 or a SLOW eater :)