Can You Get Paid MORE For Accepting LESS?! (Cherry Picking)

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Acceptance rates have been a metric used by companies like Uber, Lyft, DoorDash and more but does your acceptance rate mean anything? Can you get paid more for accepting less (cherry picking?) Many drivers have tried this and are seeing their income go up when cherry picking and NOT accepting every ride. What do you do?
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[@Therideshareguy]

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[@daphnespanier]

Read Veena Duval's paper on Algorithmic Wage Discrimination...You HAVE to cherry pick!

[@daphnespanier]

Cherry Picking

[@supercyanblue2379]

100% acceptance 0 cancel.

[@tacianibillo4983]

Hi I can decline all day long even if it goes to 0 they don't deactivate me

[@tacianibillo4983]

Are they going to deactivate me if acceptance rate goes to 0

[@dailytaylor]

The day I learned my acceptance rate did NOT need to be over 90% was the day I started to make real money.

[@jenuinejewel]

I totally agree work smarter not harder (longer), i started cherry picking last year and I'm making more money in a small amount of time. I don't want to work long for that same amount. What I started doing after I accept a rider/ or picked them up I stop requests. I found that when you start back accepting rides you see the higher paying rides, you just have to be ready to move quick to accept the ride. Also, I don't accept a ride under $5. When the price of gas went up UBER changed (lowered) our pay scale, so rides to the airport if it's not on the high side like it used to be before the price change I don't accept them. I make more money like that and that's my end goal, not to drive just to drive, i'm out here to make money. Glad someone agrees w/me.

[@akcarlosh292]

I don’t accept rides that pays lees then $ 5 either , I am a big supporter of $10 minimum per ride , which means companies should have a minimum of $ 10 to request a ride

[@jenuinejewel]

@@akcarlosh292 neither do i

[@azondaxx]

A 1099 gig worker why the hell we need accepting rate for

[@rooney2561]

Exactly. And just how the hell does a 95 % to 93% acceptance rate in 2 days and you weren't even working those 2 days. They say it's based on customer and restaurants thumbs up or down. That's nonsense a lie.

[@rt3156]

Yes I finally got brave enough to Cherry pick and it was a bit of a challenge to ignore my acceptance rate going down but you are right I prefer to make more money and I do with less wear and tear on my car. I'm down to 81% from 100 and I'm sure as I get better at Cherry picking my acceptance rate will continue to trend downwards. I love this channel and it's mostly awesome content.😊❤

[@clintongwanyama7188]

My acceptance rate is 3% with a cancellation rate of 7%, I only accept profitable rides

[@daphnespanier]

Way to go Clinton...awesome

[@Wazabanga1]

Woooow..You are my motivation bro.I used to keep it at 96% but now Iam at 45 and still going down because I look for better paying rides only

[@actrightmusicgroup9265]

Definitely works for me also. Plus multi apping. Taking a DD or Uber and getting double paid if the deliveries are in the same direction. Never lower your standards for these companies. I do this to make money, not for charity

[@cmudd9788]

I was once lucky enough to get a triple GH, UE and DD all from the same restaurant all going 10 miles from the town I was in to a nearby town. Made about $50 in less than 30 minutes.

[@nico4k]

Yep. Between surge hunting, cherry picking rides and only working during busy times, as a part time gig, I can make about 700 to 800 a week in about 26 hours. I average about 30 to 40 an hour. Anything less is not worth it.

[@Behindthewheel57]

Nice, I do roughly 1000 to 1300 a week, no cherry picking in this college town

[@nico4k]

@@Behindthewheel57 it’s all about how busy the area is, btw I do UberX and sometimes short deliveries if I have a good surge waiting for a ride. :)

[@rt3156]

Surge is a joke and I never ever chase the red.

[@nico4k]

@@rt3156 if you are in a good market, it’s not needed, in a suburb (where I live)a must to make money.

[@muneeswarmallareddi7175]

My acceptance rate is 31% is there any impact. In my city Monday is slow so I picked everything remaining day I will pick cherry's ,😂😂😂

[@zfunk9]

It doesn’t matter how many ride requests I decline, they just keep coming in for pretty much the same hourly / per mile rate. So now I’m making way less cherry picking since I spend nearly all my time declining rides and now make $0 per hour when I do this.

[@daphnespanier]

SAME HERE ZM. However, if you succumb to the Behavioural Conditioning (BC) Algorithm, the Wage Discrimination Algorithm, and start accepting the lower offer rides, it has successfully forced you into accepting and self-lowering your hourly rate of pay. I know it's really hard if you don't have other means of employment/savings etc to fall back on. (I really don't either). Sometimes, situations present themselves, forcing us to explore other strategies & options. Until then...Gamification...Play Chess not Checkers per Sergio

[@2010dalailama]

I started to cherry picking about a month ago , I'm in notherh Virginia area, before I had 99% acceptance rate and like 2% declined, after I started to cherry picking my money cut in half, from 1300 dollars a week to like 500 to 600 dollars a week, Uber sometimes don't even send me requests for 40 to 70 minutes 😂😂😂,. My current acceptance rate is 56% and 35% declines

[@damatriarch06]

I guess if you are in a large city that might work but when you guys become unreliable, or people can't get rides when they need them, or worse yet, can't get back home & become stranded - they will stop using your service and spread the word to others and then you'll make nothing, and Uber and Lyft will fold, unless they start back requiring certain things from drivers.

[@Adam-hw9xr]

Wrong, you cherry pick when there is surges, when there is no surge you take 1 dollar a mile and youll be ok, im in miami and i make $350 for 10 to 12 hrs driving!

[@keithrafalko9948]

I am making WAY more at 21% acceptance rate than I was at 90%! 90% I made between $15-$20 per hr, 21% I average $36 hour. Forget per mile, work per hour, per mile is the wrong way to look at that

[@rooney2561]

That's how I do it per hour. I calculate it and you make more. I've delivered a local free paper years ago, then delivered flowers, auto parts, now food and ubereats has been the worse,for pay. All self employed contractor and use my own vehicle. These big companies don't care about that. I won't start my car for $2. The best gig was the newspapers 3 8hr days to deliver paid $1800.00 - 2000.00.

[@13ChroniclesOfDagger]

Abolish Acceptance Rate now!

[@chiron3489]

I'm experimenting with the Lyft destination mode stay within the circle app.. I used it for 6 hours +1 additional hour, today within staying 5-8 mile diameter of downtown Raleigh city center. I also cherry picked at $1 per mile rides, With one $9 steak and a $35 for a 20 rides bonus. 7hrs 9a -4p. I made $183 180 miles =$26.14 p hour. Gas cost $30 20MPG CITY in my 2018 CRV. Gas was $3.39 today. SO NET= $21.4 per hr. I care most about $dollar per mile than per hour rate. Less wear and tear on my vehicle. I'm a senoir part time. I don't work nights. 20-25 hrs. Average $500 and I'm happy. I only cherry pick now. Acceptance rate today was around 60%.

[@Beyloveseverybody]

I love the filtering app, I stay between 5-10 miles, I also cherry pick too.

[@woodshed_moments]

Cherry-picking is the nature of business, friggin hypocrites... they cherry-pick drivers... they mitigate who and how they drive all the time - truth is... they have no business trying to interfere with driver perogative, none whatsoever. They don't know how much time you have and they don't know what your goals are, it's none of their business - do what you can for the time that you're driving, and just move on for the day. They need you a hell of a lot more than you need them.. remember that.

[@rooney2561]

Yes exactly

[@malewire1263]

This guy is awesome!! Telling it like is! The goal is always to make as much money as possible in the least amount time. Screw the app right back!

[@supercyanblue2379]

XD no bro the amount you make is the same, it’s more about the area you are in and the time of day you drive. 36 minutes driving pays 18$ 24 mins pays 12 Which equals 30 Short rides take 5 to get them 5 to drive them and average 5 so you end up making 25 to 30 anyway. One long ride for 1 hour will pay 30. It’s all the same unless you get tip surge, promo or other things that change the equation. I mean the less customers you guys take the more the map surges and the more I make when I accept those short fairs. Because fair plus surge for a whole hour you can make 60 if you stay in area but surge changes every 30 minutes so it’s kinda hard to do also it only usually has a 5 mile radius which is small and your taking out of it by longer trips. Your also making closer to 1$ per mile instead of 50cents a mile when you are at lower fares, if you do long trips it’s like 2 mile for 1 $ so yeah. I’m not saying he’s completely wrong but 100% and 1% give you about the same hourly because it’s the same shit. Just avoid mean people, trips into dead zones and trips to far away at the start if you really want to. I help them country folks get home and come into the city though sometimes cause I might be trying to end my run but I need a quick 20 instead of fighting for 3 more passenger ques.

[@supercyanblue2379]

Trust me I have 6.8 years and tons of calculations and trip history to back it up. You make 5x what you spend on gas unless you drive a Prius then you make 10x what you spend on gas but the timeframe is still the same so it’s not that you make more intially it’s that you spend 20$ less to get the same number. Example 40$x5=200$ 20$x10=200$ prius+20

[@matthewhull5876]

I am literally starting Uber today. Lyft for 3 years. I’ll try this and see what works better.

[@thadocbmusic]

These gig apps are not the same in every city and are not the same for every driver. THEY are cherry picking. I believe that the reality is; each of us has to do what is obviously working. When i tried to multi-app and cherry pick in Ocala, FL AND Gainesville, FL the apps quickly began giving me nothing but non profitable rides. It got so bad that i don't even Doordash anymore because i'm not willing to do all the work it will take to recover my acceptance rate while still risking bad ratings. I think they even have information in the bigger cities about which restaurants are easier/quicker and which ones tend to be problematic and you will even be deprioritized in that way aswell. These channels that are based in LA or PHILLY etc. are not as relevant to the rest of the country as you might hope. Best wishes to all drivers.

[@ridesharerants6570]

Driving less to pick ups is the best way to go. Because riders tend to cancel if your too far away. Or they change there mind and forget to cancel. You have put in the time and kms all for a shitty cancelation fee. Plus you have to wait for the rider.

[@Behindthewheel57]

My acceptance rate hovers around 96% but I live and Uber full time In a college town, 99% of my rides are at the most under 1.5 miles

[@Olan315]

Can you give us more numbers? So if your rides are 1.5 miles or under, what's your pay per mile? Do you get the bonus pays from Uber pro or diamond

[@michaelbibby01]

​@@Olan315pay per hour is more important as your vehicle is likely to be running during your downtime anyways.

[@sensay813]

It matters if you wish to rent a Tesla through a Uber partner like Hertz. You must have an 80%. So much for the independent contractor making choices😂

[@larryt510]

$1 per mile isn't making money. Need better standards

[@michaelbibby01]

Can't rely on miles per dollar anyways if you're sitting at a red light for half of your ride. Idle wear is as bad or worse than drive miles.

[@daphnespanier]

Correction: Veena Dubal. She also wrote 'The House Always Wins'

[@tokk3n-hj4xg]

Only down side to cherry picking is if you are in a staging area with over 100 other uber x cars because if you reject request because the pay is too small uber will kick to the back of the line so if there are 95 cars ahead of you then you gotta wait another 30 minutes or more before you get another ride request.

[@GeoTactics]

You can make $3-$4 per mile taking shorter rides. You may only get $5 or $6 but the drive including to get pickup might be 2-3 miles. IN a busy area you can get lots of back to back rides. Sams or Costco typically has cheapest gas even beating any upside pricing, etc.

[@johnrobinson1343]

I'm a Lyft driver in Las Vegas I accept every ride, put extra effort in to not cancel and find my passengers. I make good money and I am not sure if I agree about acceptance rate. It does appear that they no longer deactivate for a low acceptance rate however when you have a low acceptance rate your limited on the amount of rides that come to you in your app to accept

[@michaelmendez6308]

Your probably messing up johnny

[@johnrobinson1343]

@@michaelmendez6308 I doubt it

[@danfishell]

I am also an uber driver in Las Vegas. My acceptance rate is under 75% and I make about $32 per hour because I refuse to accept every ride. I was making $23 an hour before. You should re think your strategy

[@johnrobinson1343]

I can send screenshots of my pay I work take all rides and make money

[@robertovega6113]

It just me, or I think when your acceptance is too low, you can t see yourr trip destination?

[@jeannettemagin3291]

In my area they have a sign on for 1000.00! So cherry picking just leads to zero offers.. always someone else ready to take bad rides..i love what I do so i will just wait it out.. something's gotta give

[@tklee1211]

When market is busy, AR dont matter. When the market is slow, I get nothing but the 100% trashes on both UR and DD. Now my AR being above 50% on both UE and DD, I get at least 1 decent order every 2 hour, so they let me make $7 or 8 per hour. I gave up, cant beat them, unable to defy them lol..

[@KdawgThegreat]

As a long time driver, I used to be able to cherry pick my pickups whenever I wanted up until about the last year I would say. It got to the point where if I stopped accepting rides after a certain amount I would no longer receive any trips for hours at a time and not make any money at all, now I accept like 9/10 and average between 20-30 an hour

[@damatriarch06]

YES! You know how to hustle.

[@thomasturner3583]

Roughly how low was your acceptance rate when you wouldn't get rides for hours?

[@brooose1]

Work smarter, not harder. Since I started cherry picking, my Lyft and UberX acceptance rates went way down and I typically make anywhere from $25-$35 per hour gross depending on bonuses. With delivery, cherry picking means I drive fewer miles and make more money. It puts fewer miles on the car and it's a lot less stressful. I know UberX is trying out some new scam to go after us Cherry Pickers in some markets where they stop showing ride details after 3 requests and the details don't come back for 30 minutes. That hasn't rolled out in Pittsburgh yet and I am dreading it because Uber throws a lot of lowballs for rideshare on busy nights. Seriously if their response is to withhold information from drivers and punish them for trying to do better, then they'd better go back to the rate card with time and distance for those rides. My response if that happens will be to switch platforms until the 30 minutes times out or just get off of Uber.

[@daphnespanier]

There is a another 'scam'. Algorithimic Wage Discrimination. Behavioural Conditioning of drivers etc.

[@brooose1]

@@daphnespanier which is a reason why you should cherry pick. Teach the algorithm your value. Know your worth. I know it sounds cliche but all of the platforms try to manipulate you into accepting the lowest offer. Once you do, the algorithm will keep lowballing you if it thinks you will take it. That’s the algorithmic wage discrimination. You have to power to turn it on its head and stop accepting lowball offers. Unfortunately it looks like Uber is preparing to punish us if we do know our worth.

[@supercyanblue2379]

I make the same shit with 100% acceptance rate the only rides you should decline is if the ride is to far away when where you are to where they are. each ride averages 20 minutes 3 rides an hour, but excess travel or wait time adds to that, Travel time you can control by pick the right areas and using filters and declining rides with high pre trip travel time Wait time: time between pings Time for customer to come out up to 5 minutes, and of course if the filters make you wait longer, Rides going to dead zones, rides far initially, and mean customers and the only ones I decline or cancel and I really don’t even have that often or at all. Btw the more trips you do the more often tips happen, sometimes 2 and 3$ trips tip 5$ so you end up making good and when surge is happening you want the short ones since the pay is the same at the end of an hour for 5 shorts or the 2 longs. it always usually averages 25 but you can make 30 not including tips tolls

[@supercyanblue2379]

@@brooose1it has more to do with your location and proximity to the customer. Time of day is also a factor like 3am people aren’t taking short trips it’s probably important. Where as lunch time is going to give you those low fares. If you do nothing but short rides in a single hour you’ll still make like 25 you just think they are bad because you see them in between long fares and the long fare sometimes tips 12$ for a 22$ ride 2-6 can tip 5$ here and there sometimes to. Depends on the person you pick up more then what you do to earn it. If they want to tip then they will and if they don’t then they won’t. A trip taking 36 minutes will often pay 18$ and a trip taking 24 minutes will often pay 12$ so Your hourly will be 30 even if you drive someone 60 miles your only will probably be 30. And if you take short trips where you are getting them within 5 minutes and dropping them off in 5 minutes. 10x5 is 25. And the extra 10 minutes could be 30 but chances are it won’t. Not including tip in those pay examples. My point is average hourly is simple you have food and bad don’t stress instead set a number you want to reach and a couple of hours you want to drive reach the number then go home and immediately sleep for atleast 2 hours then get up and repeat. Come up with times you think will work. You can do 200 all in one sitting you can do 100 sleep then do 100 again after 6 hours of sleep you can do 50 3-4x a day. I can’t tell you my money target because it’s working for me very well and I want to keep it working. once you get the number you are looking for get off, sleep, get on repeat. I spend 3-5 hours at a time working I get off and come back later. I have 3 set shifts to start driving and if I do 2 and miss one that’s fine. It’s a long term thing doesn’t even feel like I’m working to be honest it’s just fun

[@supercyanblue2379]

@@Rational_Driver you didn’t mention the platform your talking about? That’s some insane tips I get those maybe 2 times a day but I do see the short trip tips add up the same way. I do 3 hours at a time sleep and repeat and I hit the same goal. But I don’t actually care to work more then 2 of 3 shifts everyday. So I average 150 instead of 250. My gf doesn’t like it when I work to much lol and I always miss 4:30-9am cause I never wake up. I work to get 75 takes 3 hours get off go to sleep Repeat 75 Get off sleep And then I get 225 but I always end up accidentally making alot of extra money I didn’t plan for just trying to filter rides to get home from 55 miles away. Lol I don’t even feel like I’m working. I’m not sure what can beat this but I’ll keep trying to plan ahead. This is stage 2 McDonald’s would be stage 1 just a job you know. Stage 0 is unemployment Stage 2.2- 2.5 is when you owe nothing on the car you drive to make money. Stage 3 is what I’m wondering about what is beyound this Keynotes E employee SE Self employed Meaning earning your time back while either increasing hourly or exchanging it for more flexibility is probably the next milestone Maybe managing property or renting cars would be stage 3 or higher education. Open to thoughts

[@ladystormhealing]

Thanks for this I now know I was doing the right thing.. No you're worth guys and cherry pick!

[@ubermothman5584]

I don't know how many other drivers noticed that acceptance rate during the last month of the quarter is what determined if you made Uber Pro. Apparently Uber noticed that drivers like me ignored more rides in February and March but accepted more in April. Got a love note from Uber telling me that starting on May 22nd, my acceptance rate will be based on the last 200 "rides." I put "rides" in quotes since that should have been pings or ride requests. I do around 120 rides a month so this affects me. If you're full time in a busy market, you probably prefer this change. That said, I'm curious if only certain drivers are having this change applied to them.

[@surearrow]

>>----------------> Imagine, if all drivers declined low-ball offers all the time. Over time, Uber and Lyft would be forced to raise the dollar amount of offers to drivers. It's the drivers who consistently accept low-ball offers that keep those offers coming to all of us, thus lowering ALL dollar amounts to all drivers.

[@sergioSMTMC1]

Great video Tyler, welcome to SMTMC and CPU cherry pickers united😂

[@kyngbrown4433]

Cherry picking only works in large locations 🤣 everything round here is walking distance but ofc ppl ain't walking but if I don't do it, somebody else will..

[@mikeknight6286]

Time is the name of the game! With uber back in the day we got paid more if the ride took longer. Now with x rides it was not beneficial but XL mattered. The formula i use now is get 3 rides done per hr. Min $8 a ride =$24 now thats not great but if any of those 3 rides tip im over $30 also factor in i mainly do XL so 50 percent of the time i average $35-50 a hour. I do live in a traffic nightmare city. Hope this helps

[@Tycobb10]

Great video...very helpful and logical!

[@IdeasAsOpiates]

I'm not sure why you guys keep focusing on revenue per hour instead of profit .

[@daphnespanier]

Revenue per hour is directly related to your gross net and net profit. Yes, you add up all your hourly pay for the week to calculate your Gross for the week. However, if you are not watching your hourly rate, by taking a number of rides that pay you less per mile for a number of hours for example, you have increased your gas cost for that hour, therefore increased your gross net profit. Together with additional wear/tear on your car, increased mileage etc. It all adds up in the big picture. Think about it this way...if hourly rates are irrelevant, why do RideShare Companies create algorithms specifically designed to control a driver rate of pay per hour? Why do algorithms exist that attempt Behavioural Conditioning? Algorithmic Wage Discrimination? Why do W2 companies advertise their lower paying job opportunities PAY PER HOUR. For Example...you hit a surge...a 0.8 mile trip pays you $27 (I've had them). So, you only drive surges, and rides that pay a min. of $1.50/mile, and/or a direction you need to go in. The 'direction' trips may pay only $1/mile, but you need to go anyway. 'Direction' trips could be to a 2nd job, errands, Dr appt, car service etc. This practice 'WATER'S DOWN' your hourly rate of pay, but is a smart practice if it works out with your timing of ride offers. CAVEAT, if you use 'Direction' trips on a regular basis, perhaps to a 2nd job with set days and hours, the algorithm recognizes an established pattern. It now 'thinks' that a new hourly rate of earnings is becoming acceptable to you, periodically. And will increase offers to you that calculate out to a lower rate of pay. In other words, taking 'Direction' rides, CAN BE AT YOUR PERIL! Your drive time is minimal at all other times. Yes, you may sit around for hours waiting for surge rides, or at least $1.50/mile rides...BUT...your overhead is as low as you can go (gas cost, maintenance, & long term wear/tear on your vehicle). Low Overhead=Higher Profit MOST IMPORTANTLY...If you accept being forced, by the algorithm, to start accepting lower pay per hour at normal drive times/surge times, and you add up all your high paying hours, with low paying hours, you begin to notice that your average hourly pay has begun to drop. This, in turn, forces you to start accepting MORE lower paying rides, which results in a further drop in your hourly rate. As your hourly rate DROP increases, your weekly earnings will be lower too. In addition, you may have spent more in gas, wear/tear on car etc. , because you are driving more. What you accept in pay per hour, sets an algorithmic precedent. The algorithm has learned that you will accept certain lower hourly rates. It then pings you more lower hourly rate offers, because you have taught it, that it is acceptable to you. The lower hourly rates that you have set yourself, will now be offered to you frequently. It's a combination of Behavioural Conditioning and Algorithmic Wage Discrimination. ...And that's why seasoned drivers constantly talk about Hourly Rates. It's directly related to your Gross Net Profit and Net Profit.

[@daphnespanier]

As well as teaching the Algorithm the hourly rate that you will accept to drive

[@daphnespanier]

Correction P1:L3. DECREASED YOUR GROSS NET PROFIT

[@olbricky6824]

End of shift 3 using the method described in this video and I just made the least amount of money I've made in months in a single shift possibly the least amount ever: $45 for 6 hours. It seems that declining the orders like described in this video is resulting in the algorithm not sending me anything at all. The entire shift was filled with 45 minute gaps between orders, The worst orders I have ever seen over and over and OVER.

[@bjugler]

Orders? Are you doing Door Dash? I personally don't agree with the advice to Cherry pick, but regardless, this video was about rides, not deliveries. My understanding is that door dash uses acceptance ratings entirely differently.

[@d12b2007]

In Ottawa Canada If acceptence Rate is less than %84, you wont see the destanation option, you only see the fare distance from you.

[@antallen9766]

Where I'm at the wages are they expect you to move your car for$2 and I can't get an offer at least 10.00 unless it is 20 or more miles I don't see a way that I could benefit at all off of any of the prices that they offer me

[@rooney2561]

It's the same with Uber eats. I won't take orders for $ 2.00, I won't start my car for that. It's ridiculous.

[@watchgagootz]

When doing that you must also consider how much gasoline are you burning.

[@bossbrent]

Here's something odd: I ALWAYS hear $1/mile, been hearing it for several YEARS now, even BEFORE peak inflation hit during the pandemic. Why don't I ever hear a minimum like $1.20 or $1.40 or $1.60 or $1.80/mile? So strange.

[@thomasturner3583]

I haven't totally figured out the answer, but my experience does go with the $1.00 per mile effect. I go 300 miles. I have $300 gross. When I have long distance rides that are 30 mile's or more. I hope to make a little money on the way back to the city I work in to cover the dead miles coming back. If the original ride is a reserved, XL or Comfort ride. The added price also helps to pay for those dead miles.

[@bossbrent]

@@thomasturner3583 There are so MANY different types of vehicles, each with its own COST per mile. Just a few spitball examples: Toyota Prius: $0.10 Toyota Yaris or Corolla: $0.15 Toyota Camry: $0.20 Pick-up truck: $0.40 Jeep Wrangler: $0.60 Diesel truck large: $2.00 It all depends on one's ride. Only when one knows the cost can one then state the compensation to exceed that cost allowing for the profit margin.

[@budsodastories]

For any app adapt and remain profitable to the time and busyness you're in

[@MrKongatthegates]

I live in a bigger market, and the problem is if you chery pick too much, you will just sit more. However, if you go out at the busy times, this is probably the best way to do it. But you are capped pretty fast, you cant make that much in any case. But at least you can save miles and gas on your car and stay about the same

[@Megan_Sinner]

In tampa fl the Cubans take low low pay, and there's tens of thousands of drivers in my region. So pay is super low as compared to Boston or anywhere decent, usually probably in blue states For ride share and dashers

[@FreespeechDeliveryBoy]

How about if you don't accept trips and you wait a long time for the next order and go stir crazy?

[@jenuinejewel]

The only time I experience that is when it's either slow (not alot of requests) or we have alot of drivers and still not alot of request. Then you have to do you. Me, I do this part time so I may go home because I'm tired anyway. I don't want to be just sitting out there and aint nothing happening. I like to work when it's either busy or steady. Still work your business to benefit you. Do you want to use a whole tank of gas and go home w/under $50? make the best decision for you. Choose the best time to work in your area, mine is Fri - Mon. I take tue & wed off and Thursday sometimes I go & see what it do.

[@JBR7655]

With Uber if you are not having at least a 70% acceptance rate you will drop out of gold status. When I first started they would not tell me where I was going.

[@williamFrSFO16]

Great analysis! Can you post a path to that article? I’d like to read it. (Wish I could save this! Dang app’ has hidden the means!)

[@factsmatter1172]

In Miami if you pass an offer. It will be 30 to 2+ hours before they send you another and if they get really mad. You will be in the limbo.

[@olbricky6824]

Started doing this the day you posted this video and my acceptance rate has dropped from around 90 something to about 60.. The first day worked out well and I got paid well. I have set two rules which is I don't accept anything under $5 And The order must pay at least $1 per mile. Like I said the first day worked out well but ever since then slowly the algorithm has just started giving me nothing but 5 mile, $5 orders

[@mgicdncer]

You will do better if you don't accept anything less than $10.00.

[@darringraham8195]

Is it just $1 per mile for the ride or does time to get there come into the equation also?

[@McIntoshjosh123]

Doordash you need to be top dasher to make it worth doing. thats above 70 percent plus other requirements Uber cherry pick all day. Just keep cancelations low Spark is legit Those are what I use. No need for nothing else

[@ryanhitchcock4570]

Good Video. I'm trying this now

[@odakonyango1272]

Uber sometimes camouflage destinations. Don’t they?

[@daphnespanier]

Clarification on your question please. By camouflage you mean?

[@billeve2868]

Totally agree. At least a dollar a mile.

[@saidibrahim5931]

Ubereats drivers they have acceptance rate, you said they don't have

[@mikejl2840]

Thank you Mr Travolta.

[@robinnesmith9261]

Stop telling people my secrets lol my acceptance rate is like 8% I think or lower n I make $30-36 hour n I figured this out on my own since the up front pricing came out. That’s when my acceptance rate started dropping like a rock lol had to maintain my hourly pay somehow!

[@eddylion1]

I notice when I do this method of cherry pick I get kick of the app or I get no rides at all for like 45 minutes sometimes over 2 hours

[@aadindvr5446]

Yea they are discriminating certain drivers we should bring this to arbitration or small claims courts attention they setup the algorithm to still CONTROL you by making you accept non profitable rides. Sue sue sue…I think all drivers need to bring this to attention they setting up the algorithm to force you to take rides and if you don’t you are punished aka logged off the app or put in time out for start screen recording the whole ride experience so that when u take them to small claims court or arbitration you prove the app is controlling us which is a breach of contract

[@red32303]

Uber ad at beginning of your video

[@Monica-gj2yx]

He doesn't choose the ads, KZbin does.

[@red32303]

@@Monica-gj2yx Just commenting on the irony

[@chuckschickbaldtacos]

My Uber acceptance rate is 12 and I’m crazy picky …. Having 1% is mind boggling

[@localgirl4898]

I’ve been cherry-picking for a while but recently got a msg from Uber saying I will not continue to receive rides if I dont accept more while on the app

[@kingston496]

Thank you 😊

[@angelalbeiro8962]

Sometimes do not follow the lyft gps and take a better route if you know one or ask the passenger. That will save you time, this app “keep you busy” making the trip longer. We have to make our time worth.

[@josepadilla7737]

Acceptance rate maters only if you want to see your destination

[@shaneofastrotek]

This must have changed. I just started 3 weeks ago and average 20-33 an hour and I accept almost ever ride so I can reach Diamond. I'm already at platinum.

[@warrencrawley8300]

Don't take anything less than $10 or more but the state of fact if I need rides in order obtain a good bonus payout then I'll take the smaller rides until that bonus is hit. It's All About The Money Baby!!

[@shannonharris]

The only upside to get-upside is RSG getting paid to promote them! I found get-upside not worth it. Its a pain, I have to drive farther than to a gas station that I would normally use. Pain, when system does not "auto detect" CC transaction, then you need receipt, of course when the receipt printer is not working... Add the pain of you're a late night driver and there is no cashier on duty to get you a receipt reprint. Add to that pain, (if you do get a receipt) you have to then deal with what is similar to Uber support... We all know how wonderful they are? Their support used to be kinda ok, when these problems happened, BUT that was when it was called "Get Upside" Now it’s just called “upside” Typically a company/app name change usually indicates they were bought out and went cheap on the support. Who remembers Mystro? (good, until they got bought out) The pain of driving further for only a few pennies off, after your first timer NICE discount... Its not like your getting that $. 35 each fill up. REMIND ME, WHY DO I WANT THIS APP AGAIN?

[@supercyanblue2379]

Yeah I just pay for gas shove the receipts in the glove box and forget about it it’s all deductions anyway, how dumb would you be to run out of gas when your job pays you 5x what you spend on gas. Litterally when you put 40 it’s to make 200 That’s the exact calculation for you. Every 2 miles equals 1$ because that includes the miles you don’t have the customer yet. So 400 miles that cost 3.35 or 3.50x 12 is like 39 to 40$ Then you take 400/2 and you get 200$ Which is 5x the 40$ you spent to get the gas. Enjoy the formula The only way to break the formula is get cheaper gas, surge And tips. 36 minutes pays you 18$ and 24 minutes pays you 12$ So it’s 30 5-6 short trips 25-30 an hour each trip taking 10 minutes. 5 to get them 5 to drive them plus wait time to start trip when they come out of there house. Long trips have wait times to sometimes to so that’s just the luck. I get 5$ tips on short trips sometimes to so it balances out, the only time short trips provide advantage is stay in area filter in a 5+ miles area because you get double the money as the fair cost what the surge cost. So that’s possible to get 50 or 60. Airport can do 25 surge plus the 20$ trip so it’s all the same game. No matter how you play it. Know what time to drive what area to be in at what time.

[@shannonharris]

@@supercyanblue2379 but take pictures of those receipts, I know QuickBooks used to help with that, currently 🤷 Thermally printed receipts (like many receipt printers use nowadays) fade after a few weeks... Pull out some of those old receipts out of your glove box and you'll see what I mean.

[@vandisel6283]

how do you cherry pick if you can not see the trip details? in australia you have to satisfy minimum 85% acceptance rate to unlock the feature - trip info upon quest. any suggestion?

[@robertovega6113]

Thanks bro i think many of us are forgetting that part

[@edgarmartinez496]

Cherry picking one way is good and 1 way is very bad They put you in time out a lot I think it's crazy

[@antallen9766]

I guess it's just my phone I'm in the Georgia area they do not s show surges and there are no bonuses but maybe $1 for two consecutive rides

[@SallyBlickenstaff]

I've been cherry picking for 3 weeks now. It was scary but it works!!! I do rideshare.

[@Therideshareguy]

Glad to hear you've found this method works for you!

[@supercyanblue2379]

Yeah I just pay for gas shove the receipts in the glove box and forget about it it’s all deductions anyway, how dumb would you be to run out of gas when your job pays you 5x what you spend on gas. Litterally when you put 40 it’s to make 200 That’s the exact calculation for you. Every 2 miles equals 1$ because that includes the miles you don’t have the customer yet. So 400 miles that cost 3.35 or 3.50x 12 is like 39 to 40$ Then you take 400/2 and you get 200$ Which is 5x the 40$ you spent to get the gas. Enjoy the formula The only way to break the formula is get cheaper gas, surge And tips. 36 minutes pays you 18$ and 24 minutes pays you 12$ So it’s 30 5-6 short trips 25-30 an hour each trip taking 10 minutes. 5 to get them 5 to drive them plus wait time to start trip when they come out of there house. Long trips have wait times to sometimes to so that’s just the luck. I get 5$ tips on short trips sometimes to so it balances out, the only time short trips provide advantage is stay in area filter in a 5+ miles area because you get double the money as the fair cost what the surge cost. So that’s possible to get 50 or 60. Airport can do 25 surge plus the 20$ trip so it’s all the same game. No matter how you play it. Know what time to drive what area to be in at what time.

[@supercyanblue2379]

Idk why but I spelled fare like fair, iPhones are weird”

[@stevensettlesii8314]

Great information!!!

[@dpirovolos]

With your Uber ride acceptance rate being so low, do you still get upfront pricing info?

[@ubermothman5584]

I'm currently Diamond. It is the first quarter I've ever been Diamond. Figured I'd keep that status for the quarter no matter what I did. Well, when my acceptance rate fell below 75%, Diamond/Pro status was taken from me. BUT I was still given the same upfront info about rides. Uber says you need to have at least Gold Pro to get that info but I don't think that is reality since the driver would probably quit driving if that info was withheld.

[@dpirovolos]

@@ubermothman5584 I don’t get that info at all. It’s making really difficult to justify driving for Uber.

[@ubermothman5584]

@@dpirovolos Hmmm ... I wonder what I'd have to do to lose it. The guys on this channel talk about their low AR and only accepting rides that pay $1+/mile. How do they get the ride info and you don't, which takes us back to your question. :(

[@dpirovolos]

@@ubermothman5584 I wish I knew. I’ve gotten multiple different answers from Uber about that. First it was I had to wait until I had 20 or 25 rides, which I’m well past at this point. Then it was that I needed to be Gold, which I’ll probably never be because I’m not going to just blindly accept every ride that comes in (plus I’ll cancel certain rides if I ask the rider where they’re going and it’s in an unsafe area or too far away). Lastly they told me that it’s because I’m in NJ. Whatever the reason(s), it’s unacceptable and unfair.

[@Nathaniel-El]

Well done Tyler! Thanks for dropping all the dimes. #vaccinated #knowyoureworth #justdecline

[@FreespeechDeliveryBoy]

Is this actually proven? Maybe I can consider this if I can see actual hard evidence?

[@daphnespanier]

Read Veena Dubal's research papers: Algorithmic Wage Discrimination. The House Always Wins. Also research how Behavioural Conditioning is used in Lyft and Uber. Put all the pieces of the puzzle together and you will see the big picture. Good Luck

[@mariomoreno5642]

I cherry pick too

[@johncarrasco9322]

Da hell? I make $25 to 35$ an hour Doing 2 to 3 rides an hour. In Vegas. No deliveries no cherry 🍒 picking. I drive passengers only. I just follow the app. And I’m a pro driver. I knock out 15 to 20 rides every night

[@AppRides]

No all I can tell you all markets are different I have 100% acceptance rate 0% cancellation rate five star driver and I have no problem getting rides it’s always ride after ride after ride after ride. #AcceptanceRateMatters. Who is delivering food 30 miles away the food it’s gonna be crappy. You definitely not gonna get a tip. I’m just saying.

[@jaywang7087]

I have 29 accept rate 40/hr. only deive when busy

[@needblinds2592]

Best ever video god bless uber pats low door dash 5 Australia

[@darrennorthall9774]

My driver app is not showing this acceptable rate

[@davidk5093]

I feel like I should try this but I might have to skip 10 to 20 times in a row to get a $10 order I assume uber eats might try to punish me somehow

[@damatriarch06]

Besides you never know when I might decide to tip $10 or more.

[@Monica-gj2yx]

Am a rider, not a driver. Is there a way to let drivers know who is a generous tipper? I always tip in cash, and double tip for long trips or inclement weather.

[@urgetodrive]

Uber flags riders who tip well as "top tipper" in the request via the driver app. If you're tipping cash, Uber won't know about that and flag your account but your driver will probably appreciate the green. I can only speak for myself but if I see 'top tipper' even on a small upfront fare - I'll accept the rider.

[@tedpowell5884]

My acceptance rate dropped from 96 to 38 and I make double the money.

[@mrtower5766]

Profit or I'm not moving ,that's it

[@qahir1985]

Does this apply for UberX as well, or only for UberEats?

[@robertgarrison5478]

Doesn't always work

[@mr.youngog6138]

My acceptance rate never goes over 10% on Uber

[@ClapperDan]

I got a question right, so I'm Uber Blue right Now and let's say I want to get to Uber diamond and get that $250. If I do everything right just to get to Uber diamond get that $250 and then start being extra picky about the rides I accept, can I go back to Uber diamond and get another $250 in time, or is that a one time thing

[@bryandavis8789]

It is a once a quarter thing. Though it's a losing game to play. If you are in an upfront driving area, the algorithms are continually pushing down the pay. If you accept every trip, you will be driving more, and more Miles for less pay. Uber pro status bonus is not worth it.

[@daphnespanier]

My experience close to Diamond: 4.99 Star Rating. Approx 350 points away from DIAMOND (it pays $450 in my area), Uber began locking me offline from 8am-9am each weekday (peak demand). I would see on the app "Unable to go online, ' 'We're Having Technical Issues.' After 9am it would allow me back online. It started to also happen in peak rush hour in the afternoons. Of course, every area is different and dependent on Supply & Demand of that specific area, as to how often the algorithm can control ride offers. The process was slow and subtle. And I work in a very busy city. Other 'issues' starting occurring as I neared the 1800 points required for Diamond. Such as, seldom being matched on trip radar, tapping to accept a ping request, to then see it disappear, layering of trip radar rides on phone screen which results in having to constantly restart your phone, The process accelerating the closer I got to 1800 points. Less than 250 points away...most rides began to be offered with long pick up, Ride offers were $1 or less a mile Ride offers were slow, although I could see many people standing on the street with phones in hand, obviously looking for their pick up! This process is called Strangulation. I know another driver near Diamond, who works a different area that doesn't have a high supply of drivers. He's about 220 points away . Last night, for the first time, he was 'Unable to Go Online'. The app allowed him back on after around 15 mins. His cancellation rate was 2%, but last night, a ride he had not accepted popped up, which he then cancelled. His cancellation rate went up to 3%. My advise to you...read Veena Dubal's papers on Algorithm Wage Discrimination, The House Always Wins. And research Behavioural Conditioning techniques used with gig workers. You will recognize certain techniques utilized by Uber and Lyft. Being Extra Picky About Rides You Accept: You should ALWAYS be 'picky' about what rides you accept. If you have calculated how much each mile you drive, costs you in gas, you will already know that long distance pick up is not an economical trip to accept unless it's paying a high surge, and that the surge is NOT deducted from the ride $ amount. The reason I mention this, is because many riders have started to see this happen on ride offers. As the RideShare Guys say..."Know Your Worth". (Don't let Uber and Lyft decide it for you) Good Luck

[@daphnespanier]

@@bryandavis8789 It's absolutely a LOSING GAME TO PLAY. I wasn't even trying to reach it. In fact, if there was a way to take me off it I would gladly do it. Clapper Dan...READ MY EXPERIENCE POSTED BELOW. Forget Uber Diamond. Multi-app and just cherry pick the best you can...Bryan Davis is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT in his advise and obvious experience. Do your research! Read the Research I recommended in 3:3 below. Know Your Worth...

[@daphnespanier]

Correction: Above

[@Olan315]

​@@daphnespanier ok you confirmed somethings, I'm not crazy. If is just us individuals with our analog brains vs this algorithmic machine, we are screwed!

[@maurelius57]

Where I drive I don't think this would work. I don't get that many requests to be able to cherry pick and stick to my max of 4 hrs driving per weekday. Weekends maybe but even then accepting fewer rides I'd just be sitting in a hot car or idling to keep the air conditioning going while waiting for those trips. I don't see how you guys make this work at all.

[@stanleyjenkins6905]

it all depends on the market. In 6 hours I decline over 50 rides and do about 15/20 in those 6 hours. Short rides. Last week I did 130 rides in 49 hours/$1,950. But, we have good bonuses and my tips are around 200 a week.

[@jossc9639]

drivers are penalized for being smart and wanting sense and profitability...the app should only offer profitable rides which pay more than minimum wage and cover all expenses. ..instead of having you feel guilty and having to calculate within 3 beeps

[@blueartist1000]

acceptance rate is a lure for their benefit.

[@javadchohan]

I am looking to start with Uber soon and want to reach uber lux status asap, friends are saying I will have to accept every ride to build my acceptance level and no. of rides to qualify. I understand to get to uber lux (or black) I need to complete 1000 rides but will they penalise if I pick and choose the most profitable?

[@kingofthepranks1057]

Thanks 🙏

[@Lovo369]

How do you guys feel about adding an earnings goal?

[@Bammfu]

Doesnt your account get suspended if you acceptance is too low?

[@malewire1263]

No, not on Uber. Lyft yes.

[@daphnespanier]

No...I have an acceptance rate of 9%

[@brandonreed09]

No, that's the cancellation rate.

[@supercyanblue2379]

Good to know, thanks guys. Honestly your capped hourly is 30 unless they tip, toll, upgrade, you speed, surge or you do a magic trick

[@larryt510]

No. I'm at 3% on Doordash. 6% on Uber

[@DontHesitate140]

How can I make 21k and Uber takes 8k😅. Uber basically takes half from me lol made 4k they take 2k how the fuck is that legal

[@needblinds2592]

You best

[@rooney2561]

These rich CEOs get richer off us peons. Im glad i have other income, not just their cheap ass bs pay.