Can you hear the difference between a cheap and expensive violin bow?

[@estherabrami]

The name of the piece I am playing is Monti Czardas, here's the link to buy the sheet music: amzn.to/2tngQ3W My Violin Recommendations: For beginner to Intermediate, Stentor Student 2: amzn.to/2IAHsVF For Intermediate to advanced, Violin Stentor Conservatoire II: amzn.to/2ZrPDc8

[@gigachu9295]

@Esther Abrami You're adorable!!! I just want to grab your little face and give you a big wet kiss!

[@miguelmunoz5075]

Esther Abrami I'm sorry but can't really tell the difference😭😥😪😢👍👌😜

[@dae-dae124love2]

Esther Abrami no D difference

[@bemeanerwithfeloniousdemeanor]

The last bow, in the last segment of the closing of the video had a much brighter sound than the other ones, it had a crisp sharp bite to it, it actually kind of bugged my ear (one is highly sensitive to sound, I'm part cat after all.)

[@АлександрМилославский-ъ9н]

Дорогая лучше всех

[@Visci1000]

the difference for me ; 500 dollars bow will let me play a good music in my house at the night with my wife and 2 lovely kids watching me. 160.000 dollars bow will let me play a good music on the street homeless alone, after my wife and kids left me.

[@ilariacataldi6111]

🤣

[@krishiyer3990]

😂🥴😜

[@ohraider]

Stop, it’ll be worth it

[@ladypink8520]

Hahahhahaha true fact

[@1RajatS]

Is it 160 thousand dollar bow who would afford it????

[@yukiousuzumi2595]

I can make the $160,000 bow sound like $5.

[@gabrielatorres6288]

me too

[@fableemasters]

Me too! 😂

[@phoebem]

me too!

[@brycewilson1696]

Same

[@fluffball1296]

lol same!

[@involucionada]

The cheapest bow is more expensive than my violin.

[@Knallbart]

mine too! XD

[@minyoungson8293]

Victoria K that’s unfortunate

[@bany1688]

Same hahaha! Bought mine for PHP2,300 which is just around $50 😹😹😹

[@b00i00d]

haaaa haaaa just what I was thinking too!!!

[@martinaaguirre5228]

Hanooian same jajajajaja

[@rileybski]

“the cheap one is $500” *stares at my $25 amazon bow*

[@lotiiny2083]

My whole violin costs less than $200

[@magicbusgb]

My violin kit comprehensive of bag bow and violin costed 26 euros lol

[@fluki1185]

Aww🥺

[@rebecca1823]

My whole violin + case + bow + electric tuner cost less than $100

[@jerbear8672]

i felt this comment too hard

[@nigelnightmare4160]

To me the 90,000 bow sounded more soft/mellow than any of the others(which I prefer) but the 160,000 really did sound raw/clear sharp and crisp.

[@onlyjjongich0804]

Yes, I do have a similar thought with you

[@carlsethna8219]

I agree....40K and 90K were better than 160K

[@marcossp6258]

@@carlsethna8219 I had the same impressions.

[@ramonsanchez5411]

Same with your observation. In addition, its sound quality would correspond to location/occation - to - location occation basis.

[@superfluityme]

I thought the same; and when she played the $160,000 bow fast it actually hurt and I had to turn down the volume.

[@johnhidalgo1575]

As a professional drummer I pledg I will never complain about the cost of sticks and brushes and heads again !!

[@johnybrokeit]

LOL ...I feel ya, dawg! ...I was looking at buying the Roland V-Drums TD-30 that this gentleman named tony royster demos on youtube and i feel horrible to say i will need another year to be able to afford it, and here we are talking about ONE freakin BOW.. just the bow for 130k! Haha. Wow!

[@FoxBonly]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ............

[@galileofigaro4747]

The “cheap” bow is five times more expensive than my whole violin, and same price of my digital piano😂

[@ILikeBirds]

Galileo Figaro lol

[@galileofigaro4747]

I Like Birds 😂

[@nikolatesla9337]

Hahaha than sad dude hahah

[@galileofigaro4747]

Language Learner Ikr😂

[@oliviapereira364]

Well, Bach, you should have thought about that before having that many kids...

[@Sara_G23]

the more it gets expensive it becomes smoother and the high notes get even more higher

[@angelobarken4002]

The $90,000 bow was the best sounding to my ear, as it coaxed a rich sound from the violin, without the brazen volume of the most expensive bow at nearly twice the price. Though, if you were playing in the open wilderness of Asia, the volume produced by the $160,000 bow was unparalleled. .

[@Macklyn3232]

Truth

[@KimAhrina11]

Agreed

[@greyhounds1433]

Agreed ( Time Stamp 1:07 2:20 )

[@НиколайГеоргиевич-ю3д]

Что с вами,она играет на одной скрипке.

[@bor.7412]

@@НиколайГеоргиевич-ю3д речь идет о четырех разных смычках, один из которых стоит.......OMG 160 тысяч $

[@SuzetteLDay]

To be honest, after watching (and listening) to this video 5 times, I feel the $90,000 bow sounded the best. It was crisp yet soft and melodic. The most expensive one sounded rather harsh and scratchy to me. I think your music is wonderful and when I'm down it always brings me up again. Thank you! Oh! And I'm a cat lover, too!

[@dagmarmitterboeck4575]

Je prefere l' archet 90.000 , qui est le mieux à mon opinion. Bien de choses de Dagmar de Vienne

[@faraboverubieskerry]

Exactly. I thought the same thing both times. Interesting how some of us prefer that

[@dawnie10]

*expensive bow vs. MORE EXPENSIVE BOW

[@citer5574]

I asked professionals what bows they use, most of them use 300-400 dollar bows.

[@whojoe8227]

@@citer5574 professionals dont use 400-500 dollar bows xD

[@citer5574]

@@whojoe8227 they do

[@whojoe8227]

@@citer5574 very few yes. But the majority not xD. I play violin and know lots , looots of professionals.

[@moniquecastelli8058]

Lorraine de Castro LOL THATS WHAT I SAID

[@holo6883]

When she moved from 90k to 160k, I felt that

[@HugeGamma]

Lol

[@RichAtNaxos]

For most of the people I know, $500 is an expensive bow.

[@charlenepak7027]

Cheap bows are like $50 dollars!!!

[@DerLiesl]

$500 is a normal price for a student level bow. A professional bow is at least $2000.

[@hellfeather2011]

For real

[@rlynch2857]

To get my bow rehaired it costs 200

[@joelguillot1379]

amen!!!

[@procrastinartist2825]

I dont care about the differences but Esther seems like a very polite girl and so kind

[@sweetchildomusicians4621]

Jarod76 That’s what I tell myself. Yet here we are, two screw ups. Still going.

[@eouzcuemarz3114]

the difference that I just is heard is when you mentioned the price of each bows. 👏😁

[@aprilcapina63]

Eouz Cuemarz 😂😂😂

[@yousefyousef495]

Lol

[@dendikurniawan8577]

*Q* :"Can you hear the difference?" *A* : well yes, but actually no

[@woodybrison]

If you really really want a bow that sounds good, really really good, take 160 thousand dollars and give it to support an orphanage, soup kitchen, children's hospital, or the like; then buy a $10 bow and see how beautiful the Lord will make it sound.

[@jordanguerrero1423]

@@woodybrison wtf lol

[@ekeneduru8489]

@@woodybrison WOW! Bless your soul.❤

[@leavesofdistinction1679]

I can hear the difference, but only because I played 1st chair violin for 2 years. That $500 bow was more than the $50 I was charged each month to rent the instrument and bow, from the school, with a case and rosin. This is why music programs are so important!

[@superhunk1989]

Yes, I hear the differences super clearly. I don't know whether it's because of the quality of the bow or the way you play the violin. The expensive bow has a rawer, richer and more natural low tone at 1:22 - 1:35. The expensive bow has a clearer/cleaner high tone at 2:32 - 2:43. Like I said, it's possible that you fool us and play the violin with the same bow the whole time: this means, the way you play the violin causes the differences.

[@GamesTDK]

The real reason people can't hear it is because everything is compressed into youtube quality. That means all 3 were compressed by the same compression, so the dynamic range is much less after compression, less distinguishable.

[@GamesTDK]

@Sha ne Well considering we're taught that human hearing is from 0-20khz, but in reality human hearing is really from 20hz-18khz. By the time you're about 20, most people lose the top 2khz, and if you're in construction you may lose down to 15khz. Ultra low frequencies aren't audible, but you feel it. We design circuits typically for 0-20khz, with a 20db/dec roll off at 20khz are 0db. You might still hear 21khz, possibly, but 22khz might be too low that it becomes inaudible, sometimes depending on how fast or slow the rolloff is you'll get more frequencies out of it. If you're a software engineer whos designing an algorithm for maxim'um compression to save server space, or inversely to minimize data footprint, you'd design a brick wall filter in software that cuts off everything from probably 40hz-20khz, maybe 18khz if you believe majority of people can't hear 20khz. Then you do the dynamic range compression, because realistically computers and computer audio doesn't have the capacity to reproduce that kind of dynamic range anyways, so it doesn't matter. Therse two things you need to consider when thinking of this, the software and the hardware, and often times they don't communicate with each other. Hardware engineers design typical metrics, sometimes we cheap out and we build cheaper circuits that "work well enough". Software engineers mostly try to optimize the solution, in this case if you're a youtube employee you probably want to minimize data footprint. You design for whats practical. Any of those high end headphones and speakers that advertise something like 20hz-50khz, is mostly full of crap and just marketing. However, well designed drivers can produce more dynamic sound, so it does sound "better". They'll also probably produce a faster response, so going from 10khz to 15khz might take 20ns instead of 40ns. However frequencies is usually determined by the filter circuitry going in to the speakers, so unless they're active speakers or headphones, don't believe it. Even then, unless you're a dog you can't exactly hear above 20khz.

[@oldconspiracydude236]

I can't afford a bow right now so I am just borrowing a horse's tail when he is sleeping

[@sevanakrizan7393]

Old Conspiracy Dude your comment cracked me up

[@chief45fuel76]

Lol

[@SimilakChild]

lolol

[@jetscan2nl]

Probably the best comment over here :-))) Two thumbs up.

[@enerpro2955]

My horse never sleeps 🙁

[@DanieleDerelli]

Probably the 160k is made with hair of angel and wood from the garden of Eden.

[@AtikaRusy]

Daniele Derelli u just make my day 😁

[@Aya-ef8on]

Like a magician's wand.

[@tabletunouno599]

when you play it all the virgin girls come to you

[@leyshamarina1934]

Daniele Derelli JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA You made my night 😂

[@monicamonca7430]

Daniele Derelli 😂

[@eduardovillalon7496]

Esther: “Did you perceived the differences between them?” Me: “Yes 😍” Esther: “Which one did you preferred?” Me: “Yes 😍”

[@robertoa.m.3984]

Yes.....I am also in love with her.......😘😂😂😂😂

[@dimarv1]

Dr pajin

[@mamamaumamam]

The more expensive the violin bow is, the sadder the sound gets, mainly because of the price

[@Abc-qs8ir]

mamamaumamam Hahaa, and the sadder the buyer is

[@jillhoola3653]

mamamaumamam Haha! Good one!

[@camirowe6139]

Hahaha

[@ruiloureiro2557]

I am not a musician but I clearly notice the difference and I prefer the 90000$ the sound is more profund and round. the most expensive is too sharp as well as the less expensive.

[@youssrairene9280]

Rui Loureiro same

[@jeffharper410]

The 90,000 bow was the best performer. The cheap bow was at times squeaky and thin sounding , when played slow the two most expensive had a smoothness to them but overall tone goes to the 90,000 dollar bow. I was surprised at the subtle differences.

[@khushimishra7359]

Looks like u know a lot

[@jeffharper410]

@@khushimishra7359 I did once take violin lessons, but much more important is learning critical listening. It is hard to say if it is even the bow as having played before, so much can be just the slightest amount of pressure applied to the bow. Whether it is the $90,000 bow is more suited to her in weight and balance or she just applies the right amount of pressure to it? How much rosin was applied to all 3?We can't know. But listening carefully when she played using it , every note was just a little sweeter.

[@roastertruck]

I agree. The 90,000 had solid deep tones.

[@jeffharper410]

Something I did not comment on before, the $160.000 dollar bow is louder and focuses best on the upper octives. In a large orchestra it would stand out more. I still think the $90.000 dollar bow digs deeper into the lower octives and sounds better for a soloist. I should comment on what I am listening to this on. I am streaming this into a custom stand alone tube DAC , Manley Labs amplifier and Tekton speakers all wired in pure silver and Teflon . So I can really hear into each bow. I do think she is bearing down harder on the $160.000 dollar bow than the other two. And this can account for the loudness .

[@dreglanoth3320]

500 and 160 000 is not a subtle difference ah musicians are as crazy as snake oil sellers

[@calebhoffman6705]

It’s not so much the sound it’s how the bow feels and how it plays.

[@AndySpicer]

Uh, that’s seems exactly backwards to me. The sound is the only thing that matters. How it feels and how it “plays” may impact the resulting sound but that still makes it about the sound. Doesn’t it?

[@lf198]

@@AndySpicer I think he’s saying it becomes more user-friendly/ergonomic

[@summerghost6551]

Wtf $500 for me is expensive enough

[@elifylmaz9591]

Veronica Archiekins ABSOLUTELY

[@BesnePrasiatko]

Try box of milk with glued strings

[@samsungsmartfridge8632]

Yeah my bow is $35

[@Altrote100]

Totally... That´s way the guittar is more popular

[@justolive845]

Veronica Archiekins IKR

[@danielesbordone1871]

Esther , from $500 to $90000 , they sound very similar. The difference can be heard only with the $160000 violin. It has a more excited kind of sound.

[@Knallbart]

The excitement is probably comes from holding a decently sized house in your hands, though. :P

[@yuiotre]

With an audiophile sound quality playback setup you can hear the differences between the bows. And yes there was a big difference between the last two. I found that the more expensive they were, the more organic and with more dynamic range for expression the sound character became. They all were pleasant to listen to, but I could feel that the more expensive ones were more inspiring and inviting to play with more expression. However for the listeners sound preference would be also a considerable factor for choice of what is favorable.

[@nakiflo]

On the slow piece, I can’t hear the difference between a 500$ or the $90k. But on $160k I can hear it. On the fast piece, the $500 gonna throw out the door. The next one already makes a big difference. But the $160k on the fast track, the sounds jump. 👍

[@malikulamin9948]

phto148 It mean you're no an audiophile, because you need another tools to know the difference..

[@angelosdeltoro9992]

well , idk if you play violin and have tried a few different bows but. Its not only the sound that changes froma good bow to a bad one . Its the ease that it provides to the violinist . If you play with a 500$ bow and 160.000 , trust me it will be like playing tennis with a rock and with a good tennis racket

[@brandonchoi5598]

Plot Twist: They are all the same bow

[@--Music-gt3tq]

CheesyWood yup😂

[@AlexRiversMusic]

CheesyWood How would they be the same when they all sound diffferent?

[@brandonchoi5598]

Alex Rivers Its just a joke :P

[@Schwallex]

Second plot twist: when you rehair your $160k bow, they put the same hair on it as they do on my $200 one. You paid an extra $159800 just for the stick that never even touches the strings. Thank you for supporting the economy.

[@brandonchoi5598]

Schwallex lmaoo

[@noahman27]

either I'm imagining it, or with each step up in expensiveness of the Bow, the music sounds more and more beautiful and more and more alive.

[@samantharose4952]

Yes! I can hear the difference. Especially with the faster piece, the mega expensive one is much more crisp and clean sounding.

[@SimonStreuffViolinEducation]

its the audio...

[@estherabrami]

Its always difficult when recording as of course the audio never sounds as it is in reality but when playing I personally felt the last bow was more 'crispy', the audio might have affected the volume in certain bits but I think the clarity has stayed true to the reality.

[@Schwallex]

There was no faster piece. This is the same piece throughout. Jesus Christ.

[@ayakakimura283]

Samantha Rose lol my whole violin set cost a total of 70$

[@catrionamacdubh989]

Samantha Rose I totally agree...

[@Samgiffywiffy]

For me the difference is not huge as the prices got more expensive (at least on youtube anyways), however the question is, did you feel more comfortable and in control as the prices rose?

[@estherabrami]

Of course it can be hard to hear on video as the sound is compressed but personally when I was playing I felt I was able to produce a bigger range of colours when playing slow passages and play in a cleaner way in fast passages as the prices went up.

[@andsalomoni]

+Esther Abrami But in which building features do the bows differ as the price rises?

[@miluiel_92]

In the beginning i barely heard any difference at all between the tree first, but the 160 000 was a huge difference than to the 90 000. but when you played the faster part there was a clear difference between all of them.

[@mrmeanmachine1971]

i agree during the first part the diffrences were their yet less noticable (echo and clearnis are diffrent though) yet the second part really pointed out the diffrences and they are huge

[@stevenschuyler9527]

Hearing this, the difference isn't in what bow you use, it's the TALENT of the violinist.

[@Thuymusic]

I can hear the difference but you play them both so well and brilliantly!!!!

[@vapertrail6669]

I learned on a $20 bow and a $150 violin. Sending 40k on horse hair and a stick seams a little nuts to me. My last car was 38k and had leather seats, GPS, XM radio, and a warranty. For the price of that bow, I could have a new car, a violin w/ bow, and have enough left over to fly to Austria and see Paganini played buy masters in person.

[@WhiteWulf0414]

Ray Stetler To become professional its necessary bro. Just like athletes spend 100k easily on trainers and gear and fitness over the years. You spend 100k to 200k to open a business easily. If you dont care about things like that and want to work a common job under a boss doing what your told. Should keep those opinions to yourself unless you are in similiar shoes. Damn man college can be just as expensive. She took a route she loves and she is happy. Pretty sure her career puts more then enough money on her table for her to afford. She probably got sponsors that helped her get started just like any talent. These instruments are so well constructed even someone such as you would probably not be able to make in a hundred years. Hand made no doubt with love and care.

[@vapertrail6669]

WhiteWulf0414 , this young lady undoubtedly has more talent than me and I'm not taking that away from her. My job was combat comm and I've seen first hand how inferior equipment can be detrimental. My point was a bow, no matter how good, isn't worth $40k. That's like these chefs that spend ridiculous amounts of money on a knife. Does the knife work well?...yes. Does it work better than a $100 knife?... No. These prices are artificially inflated because the manufacturer knows some idiot will buy it so they can show off how much money they have (or how stupid they are) on instagram or KZbin. Just like gold toilet paper and diamond iPhones, some spoiled girl or Dubai show-off will buy it. Like I said before, it's horse hair and a stick. Just because she's a professional violinist, doesn't change that fact. P. S. If you don't like people expressing their opinions, maybe the internet isn't right for you. Have a great 4th of July.

[@MrMachiavelli357]

I’m with you bro. Gonna buy a $100 violin set and play. Only person or persons I want to impress won’t know or care about the difference.

[@Sorestlor]

Just remember $100 violin's cant get you all the way you might have to upgrade to say a $500 to last you a few years or a $2000 violin+bow which should (if you look around stores for a good one) get you to the point where it actually sounds really nice and can play most reasonable things. Expensive bows and violins are necessary for soloists but there is a point where it isn't getting you much more if anything at all.

[@cinnamorollsmom]

i want to RETWEET this comment 💀

[@chriss6356]

I'm not sure still, I guess you need to ship those bows to me so i can try them out.

[@alankwan1]

I don't see so much diff between 40000 and 90000. Of course , there is a so much diff when comparing with the price of 500.But I am so sure there is a significant diff of 500 and 120000. The difference is high frequency much more transparent ,smooth and sweet.

[@thenthen4440]

lol.

[@bepassionate3247]

Great funny comment

[@jewerly3843]

lol

[@akshayagopalakrishnan3343]

Physics Only 9

[@SyssySyssy]

The most expensive hurt my ears the most. Honestly the cheaper ones weren't actually bad at all.

[@appleguy169]

Syssy99 Syssy99 I couldn’t tell a difference and I have a 10,000 dollar or more violin made one year before world war 2 ended 1944.

[@luisdiaz71956]

Weird flex but ok /s

[@diegopadillaperez4057]

I think that the best for this violin is the bow of 90000, it has a beutifull sound, better than the bow of 160000.

[@elenademotadengra9414]

I agree, and it's good to know that someone else does!

[@nnnnttttuuuu]

I am with you

[@heatherwebber9747]

Yes agreed the difference between the 40,000 and the 90,000 was most marked . I would also purchase the 90,000 one.

[@uchihaitachidan]

The 160000 sounds too bright for me.

[@nanozone3706]

me too

[@brianlam257]

I can't hear the difference. What's wrong with me...

[@lilianaventura5239]

Ma Sato i know my ears are bad and i dont hhere it

[@RidhinSain]

Ma Sato me to

[@Saints-alive]

Hahahahah me too they all sound very good

[@nccelloman]

Listen for clarity and depth. The 160k bow helps her violin sound brighter and focused. Also, try headphones. It helps.

[@tasyarosenna88]

Probably cuz we're not a violinist. 🙈

[@realmariela]

Regardless of the bow, this girl's amazing 🤩

[@helcaraxe0411]

They all sound fine

[@LizzySkater13]

Dolphin of Arda lol

[@jeungrioppa5937]

Dolphin of Arda you must not play the violin

[@helcaraxe0411]

Jeungri Oppa I do. Sure some sound a little better than others, but they all work, and that’s all that really matters

[@kibainuzuka2363]

agree, i also play violin and can tell the difference but they all are sound fine to me xD

[@helcaraxe0411]

Kiba Inuzuka Akamaru is cute

[@viktoriiafedorova]

Ofc there is the difference...there is actually a BIG difference in "color" of sound. That expencive one sounds really deep and rich not like opening old doors xD Keep up the good work. Ughhh i wish i had enought money to buy a new flute🎵 Have a nice day everyone ;)

[@leibibi9806]

160.000 Is cheap

[@musicisitall]

90.000 sounds the best. more tonal expression, warmer.160.000 more high details

[@LionsGateCorp]

Indeed, as I was about to write the same.

[@newcan1701]

because of the psychologist of the musician ...

[@StarBiscuit-e6z]

i 2nd that.. the 160k's sound is worst than 90k

[@愛唱歌的懿個人]

Agree, 90K sounds the best 👍🏻

[@hacnilanyiapowher5040]

okay it depends what colour of the sounds you vote but the $90.000 and $160.000 are made by very different material if you are a fully professional you will be able to pick what bow is the superior between 90k and 160k dollars. thx

[@darse7422]

So glad you explained this to a non-violinist

[@FaustoM7432]

i don't think is it possible to evaluate this kind of instruments from a youtube video. there are too many filters from the original sound and your ear. First is the microphone used to capture the original video/audio, and then all software encoder used to save the original track in a compressed format for youtube, and finally your pc speaker for the reproduction. Any of these components cut part of frequencies and harmonics, and then makes the final audio track, fully different from the original.... if you want do a good comparision you have to listen from live.

[@gersonmenezes9289]

Tizio Cajo Right

[@brandyl349]

Tizio Cajo g ge

[@MissyLaMotte]

The cheapest one does sound a bit "scratchy", especially on the slow tune. I find it harder to pick up on the difference between the other ones. To me, the $ 90000 one sounded the most pleasant for the slow tune. On the faster tune, the most expensive one had the clearest and most brilliant sound, keeping the notes apart and not blending them together so much, if that makes any sense. Don't know if that difference would be worth $70000 or even $120000 more, though ;)

[@adriengrabinski7376]

I do agree for the slow but on the fast part somehow the cheapest sound good to me, but what do I know

[@wallewaltz]

wait wait wait it's not the price of the violin, it's the price of the *bows*

[@justfiddlinaround1128]

When the expensive bow is twice as much as you make in a year...

[@arohachanuwu9504]

Is that bow (the most expensive one) made from unicorn hair? It's more expensive than my house. (FYI I live in Philippines)

[@marichelle888]

😂 i feel you. I'm from ph too, the cheapest bow, my goodness $500 is already an expensive middle class violin here in our country haha and I think the expensive bow sold usually in music stores is the one with pernambuco brazilian wood bow with mongolian horse hair usually at $75 - $80 😅

[@arohachanuwu9504]

😂😂 ikr

[@marichelle888]

😂

[@arohachanuwu9504]

@immatroll13 😂😅 sml?

[@CrypticPulsar]

Hands down the funniest comment so far! I’m cracking my ass off!! 😂🤣

[@abbyag]

I feel like the more expensive the bow the more clear the sound and the more responsive the instrument is to the bow.

[@tgrimes175]

I call bullshit. If you were blind folded you could not tell the difference. I could not tell the difference and I have a B.M. from Berklee College of Music. I had to strain just to hear the VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY subtle difference. Certainly not worth paying 900 dollars for a bow that practically sounds identical to a 40 dollar bow.

[@abbyag]

Travis Grimes I wasn't only talking about in the video. I've been to a shop and tried different bows with my instrument and I feel the difference and hear the difference. I know you have a degree from prestigious school and all, but it's just my opinion.

[@Syrinx222]

Hello fellow Berklee alum! I too could only hear a very subtle difference. The more expensive ones were smoother, and less scratchy. In any sort of mix, you wouldn't be able to hear a thing.

[@ericksonlk]

The $500 bow is already good enough, the difference (if there is any) maybe wasn't captured by the microphone.

[@abbyag]

Leon Erickson I agree, the video didn't capture the quality of the sound from bow to bow, but when you actually are there trying different quality bows you can hear and feel a difference.

[@captainmarkgray8856]

The artist is the most important variable. Aside from that, you also have to play without prejudice so it would be nice if you didn't know which was which because I seemed to notice a difference in how you played each. That aside, the $160K one was brighter, more treble if that is what you like. I do not so I prefer the more mellow bows with more rich tones but hey, if treble is more treble and bass more bass all is good if that is what you like. In the end it is personal preference. I prefer the rich full notes of the other bows but we could watch her play anything or just talk all day. Nice smile too!

[@geigenatelierbrusch469]

I agree with what You say.

[@captainmarkgray8856]

Me too :-)

[@jesselbaptiste4702]

100% Agree

[@ADELONSI]

You are so professional so I didn't find the difference between all. The professional musician can do miracles, and you did 👍😊

[@riley_oneill]

You are an amazing musician but I think revealing the prices of the bows sort of set people up to favor the most expensive one. A double blind test and then a poll would probably reveal that we can't tell much of a difference.

[@erikwahlstrom976]

Exactly.

[@joellebrown4423]

i agree with this

[@drtnzhr3446]

I don't agree with this. It is possible to hear that the more expensive bow is better by far, just need to listen properly, and to be honest, don't tell me there isn't much difference between $500 and $160,000 bow. Just don't. It's like you said that $100 low-end basic smartphone is better than some brand's $1000 flagship. It just isn't. It is probably that valuable for a reason.

[@riley_oneill]

The point of the double blind test is that people aren't told which one costs more and just have to categorize what one they think fits each price point. There is also the limiting factor of the audio recording methods and acoustics of the room she is in. Perhaps those highly attuned to the craft could tell a difference but if you go and ask random people I think they would have a difficult time and would likely not match them right.

[@pat2000m68]

Question is, is there a $159,500 dollar difference. I suppose if money is a cheap commodity it is.

[@butterfly-rv6iz]

Watch her expression ..... Completely fell inside music😍😍😍😘😘😘

[@bethanyking4659]

When a bow cost more then someone’s rent lol

[@nightshaderebel]

Or... house.

[@arash1620]

Thanks for the test, The range, volume, and transparency of the sound significantly improved, step by step.

[@UlfKloo]

I was kind of surprised to find that the more expensive the better, both in tone production and response.Maybe the $40.000 bow is the best value for a top performer though, because it seems to perform very well both for producing a full sound and for fast passages. But I'd go for a bow by one of the great contemporary makers for a fraction of the price :)

[@estherabrami]

I think I agree I enjoyed playing on the François Voirin very much and actually also loved the Joseph Henry. I should do a video modern vs old bow haha!

[@Esteban93sc]

Please! jaja it would be very very interesting a video of modern vs old bows clasified by you for example by the comparables bows or whatever you consider (maybe its need at minium a 1000usd bow to start compare with old bows or things like that). It would be very help full to guide maybe intermediate and adnvanced players who sometimes dont play profesionaly but just for fun. Please do a video like this :D

[@YehonatanLevi]

please do, i am deeply intrigued

[@mikem8861]

Is there a much lower price for a world class bow? And do these much higher prices reflect the collectability of the bow, i.e. historical maker of the bow, prominent performers who used the bow? In the guitar world the prices go thorugh the roof if the vintage guitar was used by a famous performer, especially if many great recordings were percieved to have been made with this instrument. Is this the case with the higher priced bows? Obviously great craftsmanship is noticable in any age that it was created.

[@Din976]

the only major difference that I've heared was when you ised the 160,000$ bow , it was far smoother and higher tones had...lets say better highlights

[@LSDSimus]

I heard that too... However I have to admit I've heard a lot of muffling artifacts throughout the video - then the 160k bow and BAM! Crystal clear pitch for few seconds there. And then Esther is talking again and... The muffle is back. So I guess the difference for that particular take is audible thanks to noisegate more than the bow itself...

[@RPSchonherr]

I'll agree. The $160,000 bow was brighter on the high notes. Of course the other issue is how it feels for the musician.

[@hunter.1]

true

[@MrDIABOLICI]

imagine, how this major differences could sound in concert room

[@SofSof.]

I like the 90k one the most. It sounds so nice and soft. The most expensive one gives a very crisp sound, but I prefer the more rounded sound of the 90k one

[@MJ-vf1im]

Wowwwwwwwww!!! You are gorgeous and so is your violin playing!! I love listening to you, so beautiful!!

[@roneet2]

I think I can detect more differences when the slower music was played. With the faster passages, they all sounded pretty much the same except with the last bow that cost $160,000...that one sounded more crisp and sharp. But seriously, I think the $500 bow sounds good enough...why pay thousands of dollars more for just a slightly crisper sound??!!

[@cdreid9999]

er youre wrong. its the hair that makes the sound.. the piece of wood has pretty much nothing to do with it. Theres a video on here of a guy (violinist) talking about the "vintage"/antique etc violin market and.. how it's basically a scam. Theres a shop in europe that will precisely copy any violin you bring them.. (NOT cheap.....). I think it was 10's of thousands to copy it. He took them a Stradivarius i think.. when he played the copy he said it felt and sounded exactly the same..

[@ariwulandari7136]

Agreeeeddd

[@hzuiel]

I have a really hard time seeing the justification for high price tag items like that except maybe if you are a performer that is recording music in a studio and a soloist doing live performances for sold out theaters and just every tiny bit matters. Obviously a bow priced in 10's of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars is going to sound better than a $500 one, 99.99999% of the time, but is it 10's to 100's of times better? Is a $160,000 bow 320 times better than a $500 one? Not even. You can get any bow rehaired with the finest available hair for under 200 dollars, and you can buy factory bows made with the highest grade sticks of the most desirable wood for $1000 or less. Extremely good quality carbon fiber bows are available in the 100-500 range. You could get a hand made bow by a professional luthier, not on a factory line, for likely less than 2000. You can check for straightness and balance with your own senses and bring a gram scale along to the shop to check for ideal weight, play test yourself, and likely with a little effort shopping around, find a bow that perfectly fits what you want for less than $1000, the only thing that could ever justify those high prices is the historical value of the items, in which case, why even do a play test comparison when the value is more about the provenance. It's like drag racing a 60 year old ferrari that was owned by multiple movie stars and is worth millions, against a $35,000 new mustang or similar sports car, you will not have proven anything with the test since the value of the expensive item isn't determined by it's ability to win races.

[@sheri6492]

As a musician, your ear is developed and you reach a point where the tools (bow and instrument) that you are using are no longer on par with your skill level. However, if properly maintained, a violin does not depreciate like a vehicle, but they actually gain more value over time because the sound matures and develops. But, this takes years and years to happen. Each musician is different and their ear is attracted to sounds differently. Some like a brighter tone or a darker one. A rich sound or a mellowed one. It’s difficult to understand until you actually reach that point for yourself. But when you get to that point, those tools become your life. They become your passion and love. Those people will spend hours on end trying to push themselves into higher levels and greater work.

[@Mr.Shadow090]

What is wrong with you? Hzuiel is 100% right. How can you deny the brilliance? You pretend to be at some superior level? Going out and seeking the perfect matirials and getting a custom bow made at a price that is not discusingly inflated is not only what a true artist would do, it is what many of the greats of the past actually did even when they could aford the centryies old scam. If you really think that it takes even close to that amount to make that quality of a bow, well then, I Wouldn't be questioning your musical ability as much as your intelligence. Sheridan must be one of those that blames their lack of ability on their lack of better equipment. Its people like Sheridan Lillico, exept with much more money that keep this centryies old scam going.

[@Mr.Shadow090]

The ultimate goal of a musician that gets to the end of his frequency is to create a sound that can not be duplicated, and that does not come at a cost. Spending 160,000 on a bow in hopes that it is going to turn you into a virtuoso has been the false belief of many wealthy musicians. I personally love musical alchemy, and I think with it one could create something that is priceless.

[@sheri6492]

Dustin Carl, I blame my lack of ability on my lack of knowledge and experience which I work every day to learn more and become better. I love my cheap little $400 violin and $200 bow for every penny that I spend on it. I am grateful for my teachers and I am even grateful for having the ability to make some noise. There’s no way in the world I could ever afford something like this, but then again most musicians cannot. I am not saying that quality is dictated by the price tag, because you can find a magnificent instrument and bow for so much less. Thank you for your feedback and your opinions, it’s always good to have eye openers.

[@ven4673]

I definitely hear a huge difference between the first and last bows! But the difference between the 90k and the 160k ones are not very drastic. In fact, in my opinion, the 160k one sounds too sharp especially during the 2nd piece.

[@drodolpho]

Ven I think this too, I prefered the $90000 bow

[@suesan5111]

Ven Hey dumb and dumber, they are all made with near identical quality of horse hair. There is pretty much zero sound variable to a bow. Rosin might make a tiny difference, but not the bow.

[@ven4673]

Sue San Hey idiot, if you can't comment without insulting people, then how about you shut up and keep your filthy manners to yourself. And unless you are tone deaf, there is a CLEAR difference between the two.

[@drodolpho]

Ven Again I totally agree with you hahaha

[@suesan5111]

Ven ha ,ha Dumb and Demberest! Got nothing to sound about, but plescidbow,,, they not capable of understanding Gentile quality of REAL Sound, so just kanipshin, ass fucking sound. That's whut i heard. Truly

[@sophiegirl752]

I could definitely tell the difference! Wow. Beautiful. Searing. Leaves me with an echo in my bones.

[@jipke]

'Very cheap bow'. I'm not a violin player, but I-in my naïvety-would have thought $500 for 'just a bow' would already be spending a decent amount of money. $160,000.... REALLY??? You can buy a modest house for that!?!

[@vivirreiramar9797]

Siby Manuel most all that listen aren't violinists, so it still wouldn't justify the price.

[@MrOhioutod]

My bow was $300 and I consider it "student level." It's not a price you'd pay for a kid before you know if they'll stick with the instrument, but it's also the least you can pay and still get something that sounds moderately good. Ditto for my violin, which was $2000. I'd consider $500 to be reasonable for an intermediate player's first "serious" bow. Having said that, $160,000 is obviously way overkill for all but the most elite pros. At that price, there has to be some sort of "label premium," meaning either someone famous owned it, or a highly coveted manufacturer made it hundreds of years ago. You're not paying just for the musicality of it. For comparison, my teacher plays in orchestras and chamber groups, and she just upgraded her bow to one at the ~$3,000 price point. Her violin is more in the $6,000 range. But her main orchestra instrument is the viola, and hers cost $20,000 with a $6,000 bow. But it's not all in the price. You need to match the bow to the instrument. I've played a bunch of bows -- I've played some that were listed for $2000 and sounded horrid on my violin, and others at $200 that sounded great.

[@zh3roabsoluth860]

since she uses a Stadivarius ...

[@777ДУХ77]

Jip Ramakers музыка Индийский сериал

[@maxomilian]

Not in Toronto. $160,000 will buy you a carboard box if you're lucky , and don't even think about windows in your box .

[@foxmitchell5571]

Huge difference, yes! (and great playing, btw!) Would be neat to hear a couple more bows in a not-so-high price range, something below $10k.

[@estherabrami]

Thank you very much! I will try to keep that in mind for my next videos :)

[@halasamer4505]

My violin sound like dying chicken and it’s 50 dollars 😂🤦🏻‍♀️

[@markcobb6561]

And thats why it sounds like a dying chicken.

[@halasamer4505]

@@markcobb6561 🥲

[@halasamer4505]

@@markcobb6561 but I bought 2 years ago and it costed me 250 dirhams

[@MrTau910]

Yes...a big difference in the higher prices bows verses the less expensive one..!! Thank you for allowing us to hear the demonstration..!! God bless 🙏

[@leilani8184]

I only hear a little difference. Prob because u are soooooo good! I know I’m pretty late but. U got a new subscriber!

[@fatehdarwsh9245]

The 90,000 is the best

[@maxmin2031]

The difference is there. But to be honest, you can bring in a hundred bows worth $500, test play it and they all sound different. Each bow is unique in its way. the question is will you pay $159500 more for slight difference in sound. At the end of day your strad will still sound like strad. String sets make more difference in sound than bow for lesser price discrepancies

[@nomon95]

i"m audio amplifiers enthusiast,,,and the qualituy sound/prices is irreal.Amplifiers with!000 dollar price sounds good(8 points for example)and a very high expensive amplifier may sound 9,50,but the difference in price is 100 times higher, or more(some audio systems costs more than 1000000euros) !0 ponts dont exist.is impossible .no amplifier have the capacity to give all the sounds instantly. a lot of factors make his limit(rise time,,slew rate,damping factor,,,Tim,,,thd,etc). the worst point is in the record a good record with a good audio system,,may sound good,,, a regular record with an ultra expensive audio system will sound regular. Remember:Audio output=audio inputXbeta beta is the gain in db but this is a theorical formula Audio output=audio inputx beta`+thd+tim+noise+hum.+ phase shift..etc etc.

[@honestspirit56]

I can hear the difference without question. You are such an amazing musician…..

[@user-sc8zj9sr5w]

My bow was 30 dollars, I feel so sad watching this for some reason.

[@sedge6591]

Don't feel sad... You are at least playing your violin with that bow, right? At $30 you can afford to play now, and one day, $100 and someday $1000...

[@samuuciite]

He/she is entitled to be sad, in this material world, who cares if you can afford 500, wait, 500 dollar is my 2 months rent ish, haha, or 1600000000000, wait, is this money????????????????????

[@sedge6591]

Of course he/she is so entitled. But does anyone really want to be sad? I am sad that I cannot afford a piano let alone the space for one, but I take comfort in the Casio touch keyboard that I found beside the dumpster because at least I can play. If DDAEH7 becomes the master of his $30 bow, imagine how rewarding a better one will be one day.

[@bevnicholson9916]

The fact that you play at all is something to be joyful about: save up and when you can afford it, go get a Coda bow. I replaced my cheap bow that came with my student violin with one of these around $500 and believe me it made such a difference to the way I played which is very inspiring. I will probably never replace it for something more expensive but it feels completely different - lighter and more responsive somehow. It really kicks you into another gear. Dont be sad tho' just enjoy what you have. I would love a really old violin but i know I will never be able to afford one unless I win the lottery so I am determined to do the best with what i have which may mean changing out the strings for something more quality but that will be a lot cheaper than replacing the violin and will make a big diference.

[@dorel2625]

Don’t feel bad I paid the same for mine - the point is is to play.

[@gyeabourcephas4384]

The player is so good that I couldn't even decide between them

[@Aquariuswolfify]

I can hear the difference and I like the smoother mute sound of the cheaper bow over the expensive bows that give and extreme crispy sound

[@abdallahsharadqah6751]

Ceylon Coates You heared the difference 👂, and didnt see👀 that she is using the same violin 😂

[@robertoquijada6736]

Yes, I Can Hear the Difference IT IS VERY NICE, TO HEAR YOU PLAY

[@SomeLittleShoe]

The 160,000 was so much better. A bigger, more beautiful sound. I know that's not thecorrect term. But I don't know the correct term.

[@wassuphoomanimyourlocalali3784]

It’s probably just me, but I feel like I heard more “crunchy” noises from the 160k bow than I heard from the $90.000 bow

[@johnybrokeit]

Why do yawl use dots instead of commas in your numbers :) ? Like 90.000 for ninety thousand instead of 90,000 :) And yeah, I sort of heard the crunches in the 160k bow but maybe it came from the depth of the wood n entire instrument of the stradivari? Maybe the lady can let us know :) I would LOVE to understand what she hears in the bows as they go up in price. Sincerely. Im still in shock from needing to accept that bows exist that cost 160,000 dollars! I did hear the initial scratchiness of the first bow disappear into smoothness and polishedness (LOL) when with the second bow... and after that I couldn't hear what I believe I'm supposed to in the latter models.

[@wassuphoomanimyourlocalali3784]

@@johnybrokeit Whoops, thanks for pointing out my mistake with the dot, I forgot that you were supposed to use commas instead of dots when typing ___ thousand in numbers 😅 For the why do I put dots, that's more on because of habit. And yeah, perhaps it could have been the Stradivarius itself, but for further confirmation and investigation, we'll need Esther's opinion and explanation on what she hears in each bow :)

[@FancyNoises]

@@wassuphoomanimyourlocalali3784 isn't that something they do in Europe? :D

[@wassuphoomanimyourlocalali3784]

@@FancyNoises I'm not sure since I don't live in Europe lol

[@linglingwannabe9135]

@@FancyNoises do you just assume everyone lives in the same continent as u?

[@lautarosantucho5756]

QUIÉN VINO POR UN POCO DE TODO?

[@danteelcapoa8113]

como se llama la cancion??

[@bubbleteakookie8114]

Yo vine a ver como se llama la pieza xd

[@nikolatesla9337]

Wenas

[@mahiaabarzua5555]

@@danteelcapoa8113 Czardas, creo

[@sayeedkhan5739]

Great, your talent is great, not the cost. I don't know about music but you have great fingers..Gift of God.

[@ademkhmila3384]

The difference depends on the player's skills . Give a masterclass violin player a 5$ bow and he will make it sounds as 500k bow and give a 500k bow to beginner and he will make it sound like sheeps

[@kanna9308]

True true true true, I was looking for this comment. Completely agree ♥

[@dripmal7469]

100%🤣

[@danieljamar5639]

ahh no

[@mariomorenomusic]

Is a difference but the sounds changes. The cheap one sounds noisi without boda, the expensive one sounds so clear smooth with body. I think the difference Is where to use It and who Is going to use It.

[@brattingprincess]

There is a limit on how the bow responds though so I do agree with changing as you move up in répertoire.

[@jasonbyu75]

I had to fast forward during parts of this because I only listen to violin music played with bows worth over $40,000 made with the hair of scandinavian girls raised for this purpose, who wash their hair only with New Zealand spring water.

[@vivirreiramar9797]

LoL

[@hotchalupa]

This made me laugh out loud (and not in the typed acronym way).

[@summerghost6551]

Jason Burt tf lmao😂😂😂

[@sigurdgravem]

lmao

[@oliverjason]

you should definitely check out Bows made from the pubes of elderly women from Zambia. The course hair gives it a dark raspy tone.

[@danielhan887]

At first I thought she meant violin when she kept saying bows because there's no way a bow could be $160,000 right? WRONG. I am aghast at how expensive a violin bow can be :o And the fact that she is calling $500 bows cheap ;-; I'm a broke boi #Sadboihours

[@DovidShaw]

Me too. I bought a bow recently for £7. Seems to be good enough for me.

[@bumblebee7542]

😂

[@Ai-Mindwave]

Oo how u just made me realize it wasnt the violin i was looking out for, but the bow. Wow.

[@1223stanley]

theres a 42 million dollar violin lol

[@GreenAppleee]

Hell when you have a 60$ Amazon violin that you’ve been playing for 8 years x_x that hurts

[@Yoyo-rk3pc]

Your playing is so beautiful that it covers up the scratchy bow sounds

[@4c00h]

I'd get the $500 one, buy a house and take you out to dinner with the rest

[@VillaShaw]

4c00h lol not in Los Angeles, you won't...

[@francogallardo481]

4c00h smooth

[@yunus6365]

4c00h Oooooo boy

[@itouu5924]

Fluid

[@carlnallysimon3896]

Lolllllzzzz

[@Ros8jbh]

am I the only one who can hear the echo is better and the higher pitch tone is smoother when she plays the 160000 one?

[@vincentlewey657]

Especially on the second piece!

[@alexdavidson7034]

R.H H me too yaa

[@salimalazrak969]

WOW! You've got a lot of talent! ❤️

[@johnlennon4200]

Salima Lazrak yes, a lot

[@EnglishLanguageTeachers]

My dear friend, You are fabulous I am from Iran and very pleased to meet you and this channel. Good luck and happiness for you...🥰✌

[@manot8273]

My full violin set is 40 USD!!!!!!!!!!

[@jub8891]

nice. how is it working out?

[@asisqueezylovediary6474]

Hahahhaha aliexpress?

[@mrstanlez]

I think for a beginner can be violin approx to $200. But for prof. player $90.000 or $160.000 is very close all sounds. Important are with $160.000 the sounds of highs & body of the sound.

[@KNHSynths]

It's hard to tell, even being a musician myself. People that can hear 'huge' differences are certainly well trained and have the perfect ear, which I not have... But there is certainly a difference for the player, at least the stress to break the 160k one ! It "seems" only that the 160k is more precise, but I'm almost sure this is purely subjective. Next time try to invert the prices... I'm certain and can bet people will find the (false) expensive better than the (false) cheapest one... The experience will surely be interesting !

[@feelgood8120]

Olivier Dahan yeah, I remember an experiment where they exchanged wine from a costly glass to a cheap one and the cheap glass to a costly glass. Nearly 95% people voted that the costly glass wine tasted better where in reality it was the cheapest one.

[@basilgemlab2143]

i exactly cant make any difference between the inexpensive and expensive instrument but i saw your immense passion while playing the instrument and finally its your skill and talent made all the instuments stand in one line

[@nono6269]

The difference is when you played the two sharp notes they sounded flatter and clearer the more expensive they got

[@KostaTepedelenev]

Not worth buying a bow over 15 $ unless you got tons of cash.Yes I can hear the difference and it's not worth 160 000$

[@mayurhazarikafromassam]

I agree

[@dostinhilario8697]

Name the song??

[@bobpfohl6268]

THANK YOU ! I CAN HEAR THE DIFFERENCE, I just started following you on face book, i am looking into building violins in the future and now i think i will add bows to the list of things i will build!

[@secoseco8387]

I think that the expensive is the player

[@martinfranciscogonzalezort9703]

Stradivarius violin sound higher than other and clear, I had to lower the volume in the last one. Other ones sounds very similar.

[@crazybenny8544]

Either way I'm listening to this with 10 doller earbuds... screwed

[@TTurtle7]

good point !! (-: I was immedeatly asking myself if a medium like youtube is the right place to make such comparisons - but I am not familiar with transfer rates, bandwidth ... maybe blueRayrecording and a good HighEnd would be useful for such ...

[@dfbess]

i cant remember who but i saw a post on facebook a while back that showed most high end earbuds and headphones are not really much better than the low end. unless you use the 3 to 5k studio versions, and earbuds like skull candy they found they used the same shit as the cheap ones ,they just advertised them as fancy , like beats..

[@keithaltonphoto]

At first, I watched you play them and realized I was looking for when you would show the cost of each one to mark when you transitioned between them. I found that to be distracting, so I closed my eyes, and when I did I noticed a difference. The biggest one, for me, came when you played the fast portion and went from the 3rd most expensive to the 4th. The 1st to the 3rd sounded pretty similar, but I did notice a slight variation in, for lack of a better description, depth to the sound. When you played the most expensive one, I noticed a marked change in that "depth." It was like the notes had more volume to them. Each one was just, more. It's subtle, but it was really there. I'm not a musician, I'm a photographer, so if I were to describe it in those terms, it is like photographing the same scene with a larger sensor. A medium format sensor just gives the color and tone, more of something, call it dynamic range, or better color separation, or whatever technical description you want to use. Regardless that larger sensor can capture more, and that is kind of how that 4th bow was, like it was able to generate a sound with more range.