Can You Help Solve the Lords of Light Mystery? | Oddities #21

[@bwilldub]

That eBay listing for the MOC Dementia was mine... and it mysteriously sold today 😂 Thanks Dan! LOL

[@torpedoboy4]

Congrats!

[@Polygonlin]

Hate to say it, but you should have asked for *WAY* more for a MOC Lords of Light Figure.

[@SteelWolf13]

01:07 Does a horizontal slash with the sword. Gets a vertical cut.

[@KEEPINGitREAL213]

The "Dan Larson" figure! Must be one of those figures that nobody has! Like the Rocket firing boba Fett. 🤔

[@daschwah]

“No way, I TOTALLY remember my cousin having a Dan Larson and playing with it. He lost the geek glasses, though!”

[@Opforvideo2]

The re-issue with vinyl plaid pants is still pretty affordable when it pops up on ebay.

[@robertdanker6193]

I have one!! I can't show it too you though, but trust me it's REAL!!

[@juanfelixsoto]

The "Dan Larson" figure it's a lie. Everybody knows that when Kenner tried to make the head the right size, it was to big to fit inside the bubble.They were thinking of selling the body and the head as a two pack .But, at the end it look like a sever head with a wrong size body. So it was canceled. There were no prototypes.

[@weepingkoopa2862]

Nah, it's more like the one of those Peg Warning figures you see hundreds of at the store cause nobody wants them. Like Young Padme.

[@TerryTurner]

2:04 4th figure from the left... *Dan Larson* _Accessories sold separately, by Kenner_ 😂

[@zeroworldcraft]

The L.A. warehouse fires in the early 2000's. A ton of toys were burnt in one warehouse. Another mega-pile of original films reels were burnt in another.

[@phoule76]

At least the whorehouses survived.

[@nerdoftomorrow]

do you have any more information on this, could you tell me where you found that info, and do you know if any pictures or video where taken of that warehouse??

[@zeroworldcraft]

@@nerdoftomorrow Seriously? You don't remember!? Everyone in the movie biz knows about this. Its common L.A. knowledge.

[@alyssinwilliams4570]

@@zeroworldcraft perhaps nerdoftomorrow isnt in the movie biz?

[@zeroworldcraft]

@@alyssinwilliams4570 It is common knowledge because... Paying for a warehouse costs money. The toys weren't moving. The old silent and black & white films were just there rotting. The fires allowed someone to insta-sell it all as an insurance claim. Like, "Scream" (or something) was made from this fire-money. No more warehouse costs. L.A. moves on.

[@MakinHicks]

Born in 76. I don’t remember these. And I loved what few Micronauts I had. Baron Karza one of my all time favorite toys.

[@ChiltonWebb]

I bought a bunch of these on clearance from a Washington D.C. Toys R Us. I did not see the mechanical ones though, only the aliens. One of the boxes was a box set with four characters in it, and I think a tiny comic book. All of the boxes were taped shut, and the TRU guy said that's how they got them from the warehouse, and no one was buying them because they looked like they were all returns. He thought maybe they forgot to include the cyalume light sticks and had to rip them open and put them into the boxes after they were sealed, because the sticks were randomly placed next to the toys in the boxes, and not in bubble that appeared to be where they were supposed to go. The plastic was super cheap. Most of them broke the same day I opened them, along the neck area where you put the cyalume sticks. The sticks were made with much higher quality plastic.

[@kram67kram]

Dang, I so would have been into these all the way. Micronauts were so cool, not starcom cool but radio shack shockwave cool for sure.

[@RFSKannon]

My cousin had a couple of the Micronauts vehicle sets. Even as a youngster I marveled over the articulation the figures had.

[@writerpatrick]

I've got an old MIcronaughts Battle Cruiser and random parts of others sitting in my closet. The best thing about it is that it was effectively many toys in one.

[@drillerdev4624]

Then again, what else was starcom cool? Those things still amaze me to the day.

[@grandmoffpuppeteer]

I had Olympic Gift Cards Shockwave which is probably same as Shackwave. Hard to believe it's that cool. 🤣

[@CaptainRufus]

But Shackwave is better than Shockwave.

[@billpagan3070]

I LOVE the Oddities guys!!! Never let this segment die, please!!!😁👍

[@sixtiviris]

I never even heard of micronauts till I was in my 30's... but 10 year old sixto is like " get me those knock off Star Wars lightsaber dudes!!!!!! I WANT THEM!" I am so glad 10 year old Sixto only has a tiny bit of control over 41 year old Sixto lol

[@spibbymcgoo4877]

A whole toy line based around single use glow sticks? Gee I can’t imagine why that never took off.

[@JediJunkie247]

"Safe and non-toxic" Glad they cleared that up.

[@Moonbeam143]

I like my toys radioactive, and toxic.

[@5roundsrapid263]

Well, there were a lot of toy recalls at the time for lead paint, etc.

[@ryanbarker5217]

@@Moonbeam143 you'd have to go back a couple of decades for radioactive toys. pfft.

[@KEVMAN7987]

There must be an answer! The Atari ET mystery was solved after all.

[@pjgathergood6987]

Maybe they're all buried out in a desert somewhere too.

[@ANonymous-bh1un]

It was?

[@medes5597]

That was literally *never* a mystery. Atari reported it at the time, newspapers widely reported on it. Employees talked about it. We had a list of every game/periphral/item that they buried. Local people knew all about it. Nothing about it was a mystery. We knew what was buried, when, where and by whom. The documentary tries to act like it was a mystery when the new York Times and the Washington Post both reported that Atari had buried items in the exact location. One newspaper report has a bloody map with it. Seriously, it was never a mystery and it's insane to me that that people think there was ever some mystery about it. It would be like if 20 years from now someone made a documentary on "the mysterious Nintendo console" the virtual boy and acted like it had possibly never existed and that the documentary finally proved it was for real. Its that level of dumb. There was no Atari landfill mystery. Ever. It was heavily, heavily documented.

[@glarryg2318]

@@medes5597 Reminds me of the time the Internet "discovered" that you can control the ducks in the NES version of Duck Hunt, despite the fact that the feature was explained in the instruction booklet.

[@kobierice5805]

Wasn't Lords of Light Thundaar's catch phrase lol?

[@redbyrd64]

Kobie Rice that’s what I thought this video was going to be about

[@ricosuave6898]

That and "Demon Dogs". Alliteration makes you sound like a badass.

[@ANonymous-bh1un]

Clicked on the video for this reason. I figured they were going to lay out a line of He-Man figures that never saw release.

[@warface4881]

"You will not make slaves of humans, wizard"!

[@brianknapp6215]

Ariel!! Ookla!! Ride!!!

[@GiantRedButton]

Amazing you still have so many cool topics i never heard off. Congrats on the pronounciation :D

[@phoule76]

I worked a temp job one summer at a document storage warehouse. Rows and rows of several-storey-high shelves held boxes upon boxes of mostly legal documents. Customers paid my bosses to store and keep track this stuff, which they would sometimes request us to fetch and deliver. The coolest thing I caught a glimpse of through the handle-hole in a box were old (and empty) Ben & Jerry's pints from discontinued flavors, but these are indeed the types of places that might still be hoarding old unreleased toys. Think, the last scene in The Lost Ark.

[@nerdoftomorrow]

where was this warehouse??

[@Jayk129]

Great episode it’s like a cross between Toy Galaxy and Alltime Conspiracies. On a side note, after the news broke last week that Hasbro bought Death Row Records my first thought was that I couldn’t wait to see Dan’s review of the Death Row Legends 6” Suge Knight build-a-figure. Hasbro, til all are one.

[@AZURAKAZ]

That Medusa was holding Thulsa Doom's battle standard from Conan: The Barbarian.

[@Antropologopt]

Saw that and also think it!

[@GothamKnight-hsw4vx526430]

Yeah! What the heck why is that there??

[@cheesehore]

I remember KB toy stores in NYC selling them at close out in the middle 80's

[@AcroRay]

That's where I originally encountered them. I have one with a Toys R Us price sticker on it as well.

[@scottandrewhutchins]

Part of the problem with this is that glow sticks don't last very long, so the sword glows only the first time you use it. The commercial made me think of Creating Rem Lezar.

[@MikeStavola]

When I was a kid in the mid 90s, I bought a box of miniature glow sticks off a dude that sold scientific surplus. He said they were from a failed toy line from the 80s. They barely worked, but were bright enough to see in the dark. I used them on fishing bobbers and model rockets and stuff.

[@Gappasaurus]

Could have sworn i had the legendary plaid-pants Dan Larson figure back in the day, but turns out it was just the regular corduroy-pants version 😞

[@RocketboyX]

I couldn't imagine that Lucas wasn't knocking on their door with a fleet of lawyers.

[@SUPERFANpresents]

That's the first thing I thought.

[@IDidItSIDEWAYS83]

It's possible they got a cease and desist letter for copyright violation since "Lord of Light" is the title of an incredibly popular SF/Fantasy book published in 67 by Roger Zelazny.

[@75aces97]

I wondered about that. The character names aren't the same, but when you call your space opera concept "Lords of Light" and there's an acclaimed sci-fi novel only about 15 years old, which had a proposed feature film and theme park in the works just a few years earlier, seems like Zelazny had an easy case against them either to cut him in or change the name. Side note: I would still like if somebody tries to adapt that story to the screen. 😁

[@SSGTStryker]

I’d like to know where the Toy Galaxy’s Oddities theme song comes from. It has that ubiquitous “80’s-Stranger Thing-techno-creepy” sound. I dig it!

[@NatetheNerdy]

I always love Oddities, it's like parts of alternate realities are leaking into our world. Which coincidentally is basically how I explained why so many different toys were fighting as a child.

[@RichardBousquet]

Fantastic Robert Stack impression.

[@EchoOne67]

I have the Dan Larson green plaid Steve Urkel version with the Kung Fu grip........mine is still in the bubble wrap..

[@NerdRahtio]

Nice Dan Larson Star Wars fig! Just barely caught that.

[@mrspeigel3593]

I'm gonna guess George sent a cease and desist when he saw those lightsabers, I remember seeing these guys but only the micronauts at Lionel Playworld in its dying days.

[@brettpugh7898]

LOVE this show!! I've got two wonderful ideas for Oddities. Golden Girl and the Guardians of the Gemstones; and Wonder Woman and the Star Riders 😍

[@ericcarr8955]

Have you ever considered doing an episode on "Crystar, Crystal Warrior" or the Remco "Sgt. Rock" and "The Warlord" lines? Possibly as an "Oddities" episode.

[@labowskidude]

good news he did one.

[@alyssinwilliams4570]

Sgt Rock, as in the character from the old WW2 based comics (from.. Marvel? Or DC? I forget which). Usually along with stories of 'the unknown soldier' (I think), who was a soldier whose face was wrapped in mummy-like bandages and seemed somewhat supernatural in nature

[@AcroRay]

Nicely done! :-) Amazing how - in one form or another - the Micronauts toy line continued for many, many years and all across the globe after Mego folded.

[@williamsorrells6058]

Well seeing that micronauts aren't Megos brain child however a spin off of a line known as cyborgs in Japan it isn't really all that hard to believe how much or how long the line has been going, should anyone find an audio cassette that transforms into a bike for a G.I. JOE size figure that's micronauts. My point on the last part is there was a lot of sets made in Japan that never got over to the west and this might also explain the mystery, see Mego had the right to use the molds but they did not own the molds so in a legal blunder molds believed to belong to mego got pawned off and when the real owners found out that might have put an end to it and the confiscation of any property made with their molds.

[@AcroRay]

@@williamsorrells6058 Ahhh... you're kind of not at all correct on a number of your points, there. Micronauts is a unique property, created by Mego around a limited selection of Takara's original Microman line (the original core line had something in the range of 400 toys in it, prior to the Microchange series, which would provide some of the products used in the early Transformers toys) and well as an extensive number of Mego-original products, providing much the pattern of product development (and profit sharing!) as an international partnership that Hasbro & Takara later partnered in to develop Transformers. Henshin Cyborg came before Microman, but isn't directly related to the product set that would become Micronauts. Henshin Cyborg had waned as a product line prior to Takara's partnership with Mego. Mego exclusively owned the tooling that it created for Micronauts - both based on the "Takara SF-Land" catalog designs they duplicated and for their own contributions to the series. After an initial early run of production by Takara in Japan to get the Micronaut line quickly into stores, production proved too expensive and too limited in capacity. Mego cut their own tooling of those designs, and increased the production capacity of that tooling by making multiple tooling sets and distributing them among various different production partners in China, Taiwan and later Macau (the name "Lionrock" should be familiar to some Micronauts collectors). However, after Mego folded, the tooling was so dispersed and so poorly accounted-for that some were simply 'hijacked' my certain Mego partners and used to create what would become the Interchangeables (as well as the "Nuovi Micronauti" in Italy, the "Astro Warriors" and the "Stellar Cowboys" in Greece), while some simply disappeared, and others some were scrapped or sold peicemeal as scrap and would surface a couple of decades later in an industrial toy manufacturer auction (Rocket Tubes, Micropolis, and parts of other Micronaut toys). But - in short - Mego did indeed own their own tooling and all rights to it. That tooling was simply haphazardly overseen and liquidated following Mego's closure. PAC actually was entitled to ALL of it under the terms of their settlement on Mego's debts, according to what Mr. Ruzzi told me, but were given the run-around (according to my sources) and was unable to secure it all properly before PAC itself was locked up by federal investigators and then similarly dismantled.

[@williamsorrells6058]

@@AcroRay wow just wow. I guess it's my turn to point out that a lot of what you typed was wrong or backwards, but to save me a lot of time look up micronauts on wiki and they'll give you the history of the toy and how it followed the time line I gave as well as point out how it was based of the 12 and 8 inch hinshin cyborg line, how microman was made in 1974 and how Mego in 1976 licensed several microman molds to help create the micronauts line, however they did make other items for the line that wasn't apart of the microman line those they have the rights on, however in this case the Lord of light figures looked like they used parts from the core microman series giving Takara legal right to them, as for how Mego got the molds that happened in 1976 Takara couldn't keep up with a global demand but Mego had locations in Hong Kong so the molds got sent there to help keep up with the demand, this is where Mego copied the Microman molds and sent them to their other factories, again the molds that Mego licensed from Takara weren't Mego property they were more or less being rented by mego, however when Mego went down Molds of their ORIGINAL creations for the Micronauts line got sold off, or stolen and it's easy to see how the Microman molds got mixed in. As for Hasbro and Takara that history runs like this, Hasbro made 12 inch G.I. Joe, Takara gets permission to use that design to make their henshin cyborg, 1974 roles around plastic goes up in price Takara decided to make smaller figures known as microman based off the design of the henshin cyborgs, Hasbro in the same boat sees Takara's solution to high price plastic and works a deal with them, they couldn't make microman it was already license by Mego, so with a few changes they made G.I. JOE 3 3/4 inch figures. Now then let's me sum up everything, micronauts though did have things Microman didn't was not the brain child of Mego, their Original ideas and molds they made for the line was theirs and could be sold HOWEVER the molds they licensed from Takara they could not, or rather should not have sold those molds. Those molds and figures were the intellectual property of Takara.

[@AcroRay]

@@williamsorrells6058 You're running on a bit, and I'm a little confused by the intent of some of your points. However, two things: * Mego didn't have Takara's tooling at the time Mego left the toy industry. If I correctly recall what I was told by the people involved, Mego duplicated Takara's tooling using their own samples. That was at least 4 years prior to the liquidation of Mego's tooling assets. I don't know what "the wiki" says on the matter, nor do I care. I'm going by what I was told by Mego's people, the Takara reps that helped Mego develop the Micronaut line, and people who actually engineered or owned the tooling, during the last 20 years or so of my own research. I can go back and re-ask those who are still alive, if you want me to. I don't know where you assertion comes from that some of Takara's tooling assets were somehow lost following Mego's shuttering. It doesn't correlate with what I've been told. * Mego didn't develop the Lords of Light toys. PAC did. They were original PAC products, developed in-house at PAC's New Jersey offices after Mego closed. Some Mego design staff were involved in their development, but those persons also worked for other toy companies as well. They were talented, experienced folks who were highly sought-after. The design elements PAC used for the toys that reached retail were completely original (In Emperor Dementia's case), or tooled-up from Mego's original Micronaut Alien toys, which were unrelated to Microman products. Those toys that didn't reach retail were also developed from Mego-original products - both Micronaut and Eagle Force - with the exception of the larger vehicles, which were highly modified from Takara Surveyor-series vehicles - namely Mego's "Star Searcher" & "Star Defender" vehicles and the smaller companion vehicles that came with the Star Defender. The "Manion" wind-up toys were cobbled together from Micronaut Alien toy parts and - of all things - early Tomy ZOIDS parts. I have packaging samples, video, file photography and a couple of prototypes of my own, as well as retail product as reference. As well as my conversations and e-mails with Mr. Ruzzi. The Lords of Light tooling was lost: most likely forfeited after PAC was left unable to oversee their storage in the Orient, and probably scrapped. Mr. Ruzzi did have some PAC tooling still in storage - primarily assets that stayed at PAC facilities in New Jersey - for unrelated products. PAC oversaw tooling & production of the Micropolis sets, as well as (if I recall correctly) Rocket Tubes. That tooling (and some minor parts for Mego-original Micronaut toys) was considered salvage and picked up by American Plastic Equipment in Ohio where it stayed until an auction in the 1990s. No one purchased it, and it has likely since also been scrapped. APE didn't have anything else significant from Micronaut assets, as I have been told by individuals who had been offered that tooling. Overall, I don't know what your point is, except perhaps to assert that Takara has ownership of the Micronauts property and assets. If that's the case, then you should know that several parties have - over the years - equally claimed exclusive and ongoing ownership of the property, assets and trademarks, and it has been a bone of contention to say the least. Takara did, of course. However, that didn't hold up legally in the US over the claims of Marty Abrams. Hourtoy/M&D Toys also claimed ownership - as they were a surviving part of the "Mego Family". However, their assertion was dismissed when they quickly disappeared. Ruzzi also claimed ownership of the Micronauts property & assets as had been transferred to PAC and for which he claimed to have legal documentation. But he passed away before he could bring the issue to court. In the end, however, Marty Abrams maintained (for better or - it would ultimately seem as far as products are concerned - worse) and held ownership of the property until he recently sold it to Hasbro, which is a partner with Tomy-Takara, who can now have access to it through their partnership with Hasbro. So the matter has been settled. It would be nice to see some Micronaut toys from all that convoluted legal wrangling, though...

[@williamsorrells6058]

@@AcroRay let's walk through this one last time, first I never said mego made the Lord's of light, I pointed out the Lord's of light look like they used the core molds of the microman line that Takara owned the rights to, now then the molds as I pointed out Mego made different things for their micronauts line, those belong to them or rather did belong to them. Mego licensed several molds from Takara of their microman line, THE CORE MOLDS these would be some of the 400 sets you mentioned, EX: microman. Mego had the licensing to create micronauts but weren't the owners of the intellectual property of the figures, which means if they used the mold in something else other then micronauts they would have to get another agreement with Takara to have that figure in the other line. Now let's walk through another one of your statements Mego didn't have the tooling to make the molds of the Microman figure, or in this case the Micronauts before they left the toy industry, but then you point out that Mego made copies of the molds of the samples that they got from Takara. Do you see the problem with that statement, first if they couldn't make the molds before they bowed out micronauts wouldn't exist, second I pointed out in my last post that they made copies of the original molds. Even though they made copies does not mean the copies belonged to Mego the intellectual property still belonged to Takara. As for who owns the rights now I don't know. But this all stems from the Lord's of light and lines that came out after Mego went under. Anything that Mego Original came up with for the line, as in did not have any help from Takara to make, like the city and tube like you mentioned was used legally if bought from Mego, but anything that was apart of the Microman line, like the micronaut humanoid figure belonged to Takara. Now as you said it would be great to see micronauts back, and made better then their last reboot, but I would also like to see elements of the microman line mixed in a little more.

[@lazybacon7520]

2:00 I wonder what a mint in box Dan Larson goes for?

[@Viggenpower]

I remember owning one. It was fun for an evening, until you realized the glow stick lasted only a couple hours and replacement sticks were impossible to find. It eventually ended up at the bottom of a toy box, along with my PowerLords figures.

[@jacoblear1265]

I loved loved loved micronauts- so much- the best play value - arranging rearranging tearing apart and doing it again.

[@brentkeller3826]

I remember the advertisement. I don't remember ever actually seeing the toys. Which wasn't unheard of in the area I lived in.

[@tamaraclaw]

Uh.. Kenner wasn't "an upstart"..I remember Kenner toys from the 60s and 70s. And on Wikipedia, it says that Kenner was established in the '40s.

[@75aces97]

And they made the ever popular Play-Doh for the previous 20 years. 2 annoying notions that seem to have caught on in recent years are that until 1977 1) Kenner was some obscure little toy company that could, and 2) Star Wars was a toy concept that nobody believed in. Neither was true. Kenner may not have been as big as Mattel, but was as significant a toy company as any other. There was plenty of reason to believe Star Wars would catch on, but Lucasfilm wanted a complete toyline ready to hit the shelves by Christmas, and Lucas drove a hard bargain on his share of the take. This deadline was pretty much impossible (and of course, Kenner was not able to fulfill it), so there was a chance that whichever toy maker got the contract could screw it up.

[@chrisblake4198]

Probably for the best, considering those tiny bite sized glow sticks (that almost definitely would have needed replacing every few days) would have caused more problems than the Tide Pods Challenge.

[@brycevo]

Safe and nontoxic but glow in the dark? I don't believe that.

[@rouenation]

Queen's Flash Gordon theme is all I can hear when I see these figures.

[@Outlawstar79]

My guess we will have to rely on our costal city friends for this. I wasn't even aware this was a line. In places like California and New York they may have gotten something, costal cities usually being the first to get new stuff.

[@thebeleagueredreviewer2349]

I've honestly never heard of "Lord's of light" they looked like a cool toy line, but Holy shit! I had a rocky figure, talk about a blast from the past!, Great video.

[@michaellang8408]

I remember the G2? Micronaughts, the Robots with the magnets. The one that was the Black Knight had his own horse. They were great figures you could use with your SW, and 3/4 scale, but I remember having them a bit earlier than that. Once again great job and it must have been the Mandela Effect..

[@brandonandcharlene9527]

Wasn't "Lord's of Light" the exclamation Thundarr the Barbarian would say in his show?

[@benknapp4166]

And Demon Dogs

[@mannymacias200]

1:58 I want to get Dan Larson when I was growing up as I'm a Star Wars fan. Lol 😁

[@mazinz2]

I remember seeing them on toy store shelves (pegs) back then. Nepos was the most common figure at the time.

[@chrisweller1719]

Just started collecting action figures due to this channel. Thanks dan

[@chickenfriedsteak3669]

2:00 = RARE AF Plaid Pants Dan Card Back Variant!!!!! :)

[@AaronLitz]

Huh, I'd never even heard of Lords of Light before. Very interesting. This is why I love you guys.

[@wotaj]

I knew the background music for that commercial sounded familiar. It's the Anvil of Crom from the Conan the Barbarian soundtrack by Basil Poledouris.

[@rozendoo]

Micronauts were my absolute favorite toys as a kid. Lords of Light would have been fun, too.

[@jdust4]

That Dan Larson action figure though!!

[@jackcnemo]

If I'm not mistaken, Hasbor wound up with the Micronauts trademarks. There was an announcement about them entering development on a movie a year or two ago.

[@selvahechicera4292]

"Lords of Light!" was the expletive / catch phrase of Thundar the Barbarian who, coincidentally(?), carried a sort of "Laser Sword."

[@CassidyShadewing]

Oh me and my roommate both agree that we'd have loved these guys if they'd made it latter half of the 80's where we grew up.

[@ricosuave6898]

I think they were an idea before their time; they could have come out in '95 as Rave action figures...Now with that MDMA twitchy grip!

[@CassidyShadewing]

@@ricosuave6898 Of course they could have tried to license the idea out as well... I mean look at that commercial, dude essentially is using a lightsabre. Imagine cutting a deal with Kenner at the time to have lightsabres that actually glow for Luke and Vader toys.

[@ricosuave6898]

@@CassidyShadewing That's actually a really good point! I had most of the first several series of Star Wars figures and I can't remember any of them working a glow in the dark gimmick. You're right, that would seem like a no brainer once you saw the glow stick product. I still like the idea of Rave action figures though; imagine the condemned warehouse playst.

[@kingmarkseven17]

A Lords of Light cartoon would have definitely been interesting

[@punk51984]

That Stack impersonation was surprisingly good.

[@Dusty_B]

Ha right before the ending I was thinking this is almost like an episode of Unsolved Mysteries or something then you made the Robert Stack reference. Perfect!

[@yellowhorn5043]

Back in the 80's, when asked by my brother why I didn't buy any of the human figures, I said that the paint was sloppy. They looked like a ten year old hand painted them. Also, there was no room on the body for light to shine through. The chests were all or mostly painted. Wish I had bought them now.

[@jimkettner8363]

Dear lord! I have felt like I hallucinated this line. I vividly remember trying to search for the hero figures with “real” lightsabers and remember the card art. So they were on the shelves in suburban New York, and I remember flipping through the blister cards to find the good guys. I guess it’s comforting to learn that they were never there to be found.

[@brotherkellymatthewbarnes8882]

"LORDS of Light!" "Ariel Oookla RIIIIIIIIDE!" - Thundarr The Barbarian.

[@Bunkeralpha]

Another great oddity. it sounds like to me that if PAC was in serious debt they may have had the merchandise utilized as collateral to pay off debts. Of course the likely course of action would have more then likely melted the plastic down and reused into other toys at the time. Or to stave off embarrassment and do what Atari would have done and bury the lot of it in a landfill somewhere and never speak of it again. Either way this is a toy line that I never heard of back then or even saw figures for. Speaking of toy line's did you ever see one in which a line of robot with a set of removable arms and legs and heads that could be reconfigured into other positions with the torso being the largest piece due in part to a windup piece that allowed for mechanical movement of something like a plastic buzz saw or a drilling cone? I had a few, but sadly in my old age I cannot recall its name or what the point was. It was around 1983-84 if I recall correctly. No commercials for them or even a cartoon. They were action figures of a sort that were on the shelves of places like Toys R Us and Children's Palace back in the day. At a time when Transformers were just coming into their own and Go-Bots were just beginning to be seen. Robots to me were all the craze back in the early 80's and this was no different. Thanks again for a great episode.

[@tmthor]

Do you mean Starriors

[@Bunkeralpha]

@@tmthor Holy Crap! Yes!!!!!!

[@tmthor]

They were made by Tomy and have pilots that are the same and are compatible with Zoids

[@SkotNealey]

i have parts of some of the more common ones. i was a huge Micronauts fan.

[@geotroid]

7:00 - 7:15 The Leborio prototype wasn't the only unreleased figure that Joe Ruzzi found in his personal collection and sold off. Besides the four Evilites, there is also one minor accessory pack that made an appearance on retail shelves.

[@nerdoftomorrow]

could you link me where you found this info please

[@geotroid]

​@@nerdoftomorrow Take my word on it ;-)

[@georgesulea]

I had a TON of Micronauts, and I loved the comics too.

[@NodDisciple1]

04:25 Hey...that's the twin snakes symbol from the Conan films!

[@kaotikeval]

These toys remind me of a few action figures I had as a kid. They had a lighter's sparkwheel and flint exposed through their backs, and when the flint was lit, you would see sparks light up inside the chest of the characters. Cannot remember what the toys were called.

[@kaotikeval]

@L Franco Googled it... yep, those are it. Thanks.

[@drftgy67]

This is why I subscribe to Toy Galaxy.

[@OrinOfAtlantis]

I'd love to hear you talk about the history of "Dragon Flyz" a 90's oddity

[@Transfixed]

I was never into Micronauts but i think i would liked Lords of Light. I hope that guy's kid got some credit for inventing it :)

[@boebender]

I was glued to the television and toy aisles all through the 70’s and 80’s -never heard of them. I’d say their marketing and advertising failed.

[@edwardmeer95]

Have you ever heard of the story why KLine trains stopped being made? The tale is that there are warehouses of them just sitting in China.

[@badponygt]

You forgot to say, 'maybe you, can help solve a mystery!' 😂😂 Another great video guys!!

[@darthpaul1970]

Loved micronauts. Especially Baron Karza.

[@edfrombackthen4476]

They’ve got top men working on it Dan. TOP. MEN.

[@visionaryventures12]

That would be cool if Kenner could have used these laser sword luminescence

[@JMan1380]

Oh man there has to be a Robert Stack sound alike that you can get for the Oddity videos. I'm going to watch some Unsolved Mysteries now.

[@andrewgiglio]

With that Robert Stack outro now I want a Lords of Light mystery re-enactment featuring a young unknown Matthew McConaughey.

[@OriginalNeomoon]

Saw "Lords of Light" and thought this was going to be about Thundarr. Also, I think I had the bug guy ... sold him at a yard sale in '99 for like 2 bucks.

[@chriscawley3676]

Awesome concept for a toy but you'd need a large supply of the glow sticks. Otherwise you'd end up with a pretty crappy see through guy with a clear sword.

[@richardbrown3055]

Speaking of 80's toys with Lords in the title how about something on Power Lords.

[@scottandrewhutchins]

The creepy-ass queen who looks like exposed muscles...

[@thomasbiancarosa9299]

Fantastic you make great videos man love it I wish I had a Lords of light haha

[@TheRobotAssassin]

[!] If you guys need glow stick refills, the fishing lure glow sticks the guy saw his friend use on the fishing trip fit these. They are still sold to this day and you can get a bunch of them cheaply if you buy multipacks or in bulk. So the gimmick for this toy line is NOT long dead.

[@ericrules42]

Check out the Plaid Stallions page, Brian just talked about this recently

[@ericfresh]

I had at least one or two of these guys as a lad...they came from the clearance section of toys r us (never saw them on the regular shelves). I definitely had that insect looking bad guy and I think one of the good guys.

[@vustvaleo8068]

also there are many awesome Microman figures in Japan that never made it to the western market especially the early 2000's ones.

[@TheRobotAssassin]

Yeah, I'd be down for these if they had gotten a proper mass release. Maybe Super-7 can save the day and find these or the molds to remake them?

[@marceledel8619]

My theory: After PAC closed down, the toy shipments got declared as unsold stock and are probably sitting in a unclaimed storage lot in china.

[@AcroRay]

A shipment of the rest of the line was delivered to a facility in NJ just after PAC's closure, according to paperwork Mr. Ruzzi found. It was probably never claimed, and never had its storage fees paid. Mr. Ruzzi suspected they were probably eventually destroyed and written off, because - as he put it - liquidators weren't a "big thing, yet" at that point in time, and it was typical to just destroy that sort of thing, or dump it in a landfill.

[@nerdoftomorrow]

@@AcroRay could you send me a link of where you found this info, i would love to read more about it

[@AcroRay]

@@nerdoftomorrow I spoke with Joe Ruzzi directly on several occasions, while I was restoring and remastering his videotape materials. I haven't published that information in detail at any link I could provide you.

[@AcroRay]

BTW: The planet "Izzur" is - of course - "Ruzzi" spelled backwards. ;-)

[@Die-CastMetal]

Does anyone else find it funny the head evil guy is named Dementia and he doesn’t know where his friends are let alone his vehicle...?

[@ricosuave6898]

Thank God his henchman isn't Incontinence.

[@joshuacaulfield]

I know I am late to this party, but I love the Dan Larson figure in the Star Wars lineup.

[@jarellano1014]

WOW finally toy brand I have Never Ever heard of!!! An I'm an 80s kid!!

[@unitruth]

I love micronauts and toy Galaxy! I heard that JJ Abrams has the rights to micronauts movie so I'm worried also

[@jasonknight8581]

Wait, WHAT?! Kenner produced a Dan Larson action figure! Damn, I thought my collection was complete!

[@BordersDude]

What an interesting toy gimmick! Shame it never made it in the retail world

[@Gonner453]

It sounds like maybe there was very few actually released and being that this was all molded plastic. There’s two things it might’ve happened one it’s buried in some warehouse somewhere and nobody bothered to look at it, or more likely which does happen since the production line was canceled and not sure if they were all shipped out they may have been sent to the recycler and chopped up and put it in New plastic items the cardboard boxes and everything might’ve been done to

[@dananddiana9848]

Hi Dan great show! You ever think about doing anything on the Starriors?

[@freakshowfilmfestival3591]

Look in the desert next to them Atari E.T. games

[@vegetafett]

I've never heard of it but I will keep an eye out if I find any.