Can you profit from just the first 10 waves? - non-Atlas strategies - Based or cringe? - PoE

[@silasniedrig399]

I´d like to give my input on this after running more than 150 sims this league. First of all.. the amount of rewards significantly changes your div/h. If you wanna efficiently farm these, you should be at around 6-7 rewards each wave. You ALWAYS wanna level gems and use incubators especially when doing sims. I for example leveled awakened melee phys during my sims. Buy them at 70c. Sell them at 5/20 for 2-3div. Which is a pure profit of around 12div per set. Dont quote me on that one cause i didnt write all the data down sadly but it took around 15 sims on avg to get awakened gems from 0-5 (Using a double quality 6 socket + 20% quality gems). Futhermore i put all the megalomaniacs in a 5d dumptab and lowered it by 1d every few days (Had like half a quadtab of megalomaniacs). Sold quite some of them for 5d and many others for cheaper (still selling them today). One thing to keep in mind is that you have a very low invest and you dont have to spend time rolling maps/buying juice etc. Just put them in and go. Id say if you are efficient you can expect around 10-12div/h and you always have the chance of hitting the jackpot (spoiler - i didnt.) TLDR - Not the worst, not the best.

[@justinhowe3878]

Great info, always appreciate condensed perspective from someone who has been running a strat a lot and knows it in and out.

[@JohnnyCash-tw8ps]

Yes great comment! Thx for your input.

[@DARNPoE]

What build within a reasonable investment level can actually consistently reach 6-7 rewards each wave?

[@paxtonjolly7975]

@@DARNPoE Ive been spamming them as cws chieftain. Most of the time I get 6 rewards, if i get good explodes i can do 7, and infrequently I get 5.

[@bozy0223]

highly recommend an afk rf chief build, ran wave 15s and couldn't die. finished one run in around 10-15min. was also a good ultimatum runner as well.

[@terrorym7927]

Just remember guys, don't disrespect the trees

[@Empyriangaming]

I was wondering if the first 10 waves alone are decent profit and... they kinda are. Even without good voices. It's boring as hell tho. Second monitor youtube / stream / movie / TV show angle. Gem leveling. Profit crafting in inventory (?) Thanks for watching!

[@UncleJay69]

I have been sleeping in Simulacrum since league start, 15 waves of course, and they're shit for profit tbh :))) gotta say it even though I'm trying to sell the idea of my afk simulacrum build to more people. Super bubblegum heavy as well

[@whateverppl1229]

nah you afk sim to not do work, gem leveling requires clicking, and profit crafting sounds like a lot of work also

[@UncleJay69]

@@whateverppl1229 exactly, that's why profit is shiet :))) Sim is for lazy playstyle, not profit

[@mariuswallentinsen2814]

Gem leveling has always been a large part of the consistent profit for simulacrums.​@@whateverppl1229

[@DesertWooder]

​@whateverppl1229 just do them on controller! no need to click then :)

[@Leavnok]

Run Simulacrum while watching this vid, got 1 passive voices. Confirmed this is a 1.5kd/hr strat.

[@Empyriangaming]

EZ

[@vohn]

I was honestly on the fence about unsubbing from this channel, but learning empy respects the tree renewed my appreciation for him, so I am going to remain subbed. Thank you for your respect, empy. May your zesty clam meat loot remain ample.

[@Empyriangaming]

Amen

[@EternalFlame74]

I was laughing on it both on stream, and on vid😂

[@isoldmymumforrp5371]

21:22 also you dont have to invest time rolling maps, which takes time and currency aswell. Simu is just so good especially early one, when splits goes for alot

[@Sindamsc]

You don't need to roll maps, just buy 8mods with regex if running t16

[@isoldmymumforrp5371]

@@Sindamsc Not every strategie requires 8mod maps. if i farm essences i couldnt give less shit about high quant and rarity, but ill need to roll rare mod myself. Its just time consuming. Simu is pretty perfect, especially for league start.

[@matejbosela9093]

That misclick at 20:03 is so relatable 😂

[@whateverppl1229]

19:56 to the guy in twitch chat, no you would not get frozen if you have 100% freeze avoidance. You wouldnt be immune to chill though (which slows you)

[@welder77]

not gonna lie i didnt hear a word you said after 00:50 i only red the chat about not getting the promised clip how could you do that

[@nater8410]

As a someone who did some simulacrum i can say that you get some money from first 10 waves that's much in my opinion from what i saw from just stacked deck and pure chaos drop your simulacrum cost is payed. everything other than stacked deck and chaos is your profit (im talking about doing only 10waves) I still think you get more just by doing normal map at this point but if someone wanna do this just do this. I recomend using currency trade market for buying simulacrum.

[@IplayTeemoasaWard]

While we are on the topic of cluster jewel pricing. Ive been getting spammed by crafters for ilvl83+ Damage while holding shield 8 passives even when I put them at ~80c. Yet when I look at trade there are tons of those exact jewels starting at 20c. I really dont get it

[@McKryozen]

svalinn being omega good put it into a lot of builds, 8 passives are all people want so ye, prodigious defense and feed the fury ana martial prowess is like 5div+

[@yakudza2773]

Those selling for 20c are price fixers and those who spam you are players who use bots to make those giga expensive jewels with super rare combos.

[@zacharymichael9718]

I bought my clusters last weekend. They were 90c each for the two good notables with a third random. One of the bot crafters. Wild if they've jumped that much.

[@kernoleary1394]

depends on your clusters. zenith clusters are 4d each

[@pate2115]

I got a 1 passive voices after watching this video, sold it, gambled 400 divs, lost everything and quit the league. GGs

[@kurtsaidwhat]

The house always wins

[@dayman0harry]

19:12 - I was running past Tugen in Kingsmarch when that sub sound happened....

[@megadeth116]

9:35 Darker half is a card from currency reward drop pool thats why its the only thing that dings

[@zotha]

Crazy, the Delirium card drops from the Delirium content.

[@gogo_gadget_foodstamps7576]

3:10 Unintentionally fire timing

[@Awildfjellman]

My mind is officially broken, everytime I watch a movie/video and I hear a Maven voiceline I join in, Empy said "to me" and I said "to me" with the maven voice. I'm currently at 35 awa gems without awa wed and my mind is startking to crack :D

[@coolpranx]

I've been afk running sims all 15 waves with CWS. I can say that it's around 4-5d/hr for easily liquidatable stuff (excluding lucky drops/leveled gems). It's a chill strat if you have the build for it.

[@paxtonjolly7975]

A nice part about running simulator this league is that the mamba builds have driven 5 passive voices from their typical 10c value, up to around 50c.

[@SammyBee90]

I love playing my afk cws chieftain with simulacrum, full 15 waves. Which filter on your profile did you use empy?

[@isa_lim]

Great for RF builds, I can craft stuff while I farm passively

[@DK_ua]

Thanks, Empy, very informative videos! Waiting for Harvest results, I saw you run it on streams last week.

[@aleksandre3381]

Do not disrespect the tree.

[@TheGvidzix]

While I was running Breach xp strat from 99>100 I sold so many inventories of Breach rings, and I lowballed them for insta sales mostly (80-100c), only bothered with ilvl84+ to sell higher. Anyway I must have made about 10div easily, + about 30div in breachstones I got. But I am a slower mapper, and it took me almost whole week for the 100 push, so take this info however you want. Is it good for currency? Not really, but is it nice to get extra while pushing xp? Yes.

[@kurtsaidwhat]

Why even sell? If u got em combine em lul

[@TheGvidzix]

@@kurtsaidwhat I did combine, then vendored after few days as not even sold for 10c, one Grasping di sell fo 1 div ..

[@kurtsaidwhat]

@@TheGvidzix unlucky I guess, about to buy one of the good mods for 8 div

[@LokirofRoriksted]

some megalomaniac are insanely expensive... like 100 divs+, for example, low tolerance + sublime form is already enough for 100+divs

[@atellismarin4607]

Did a simulacrum early this league, wave 2 unique items was one of the rewards and a Mageblood popped out. 4 flasks ready to go. My best league by far.

[@HasXXXInCrocs]

What's wrong with headhunter? I haven't used it since last league but it still felt busted af to me...

[@epyjacek]

It used to be much stronger.

[@HasXXXInCrocs]

@@epyjacek and that's because?...

[@epyjacek]

@@HasXXXInCrocs oh sorry, before Archnemesis, rare monsters could have various modifiers associated with them AND they would stack together even if it was the same mod. Now you only get a refresh for a mod and they are a reduced number.

[@epyjacek]

@@HasXXXInCrocs The nerf wasn't really at the belt level, long term, it's about rare mods and how they work now.

[@epyjacek]

@@HasXXXInCrocs The difference is night and day. Look up videos of mega stacks of headhunter during farming and you will see things no longer possible.

[@AndreiPopescu-o8t]

For people farming simulacrums, it's a lot more worth to level lightning strike gems and then just buy or farm alva temples and gcps and double corrupt them for 21 20 vaal LS

[@S1xEyes]

Our final profit is: 42k chaos/273 divines

[@protone2012]

My reguar person's Flameblast totem Chieftan does 2-3 rewards max and it takes up to 20 minutes to clear each wave. Do it ethically or don't do at all.

[@quarterpinte]

How does Empy search the price of items so quickly?

[@pumpumpum6818]

Hey empy, will you do sanctum as part of this series?

[@rob1117]

TIL that there's a quiver with sockets

[@frankiani87]

I got a 1p voices on wave 2, like 10-15 simulacrums later I dropped another in wave 11

[@bigbeardedbear1476]

waait there's a keybind to confirm deletion of an item??!!

[@Empyriangaming]

Enter lol

[@Drucifer-1988]

In over 4000 hours I finally found my first headhunter ...

[@epyjacek]

Congrats!

[@DUBSkyLinEx3]

Do you have a spotify playlist? All the songs in the videos are always bangers

[@ZwetendeMan]

also. I've been the most luckiest on these, ran 2 simu's earlier this week and both of them dropped a 1 passive Voices jewel.

[@mattbas-vi7750]

Leaving the Atlas!? Madness! I could never leave my beloved Maps. . .

[@ParanormalerDachs]

why is his energyshield white? is it ice shield?

[@LazyExile]

I would optimize Simulacrum always with leveling a set of 9 gems (ornate quiver + bow). The best is Enlightened if you can affords a set, otherwise checks poeninja. Lazy strat, get an AFK build that can pull 6 rewards, laid back, and watch a shows while farming. With Fautus exchange currency, you can sell bubble gums fast as well. Perfect lazy farm for end of league with the 1 voices thats worth almost a mirror as well.

[@MrFanservice]

Think one of the worst things about this strat is the extra gamba you are doing for the delirium rewards.

[@rakazaha]

How do you pick things up so quick? Have left click bound on scroll wheel?

[@rakazaha]

Guess I should have finished watching the vid. Does holding a button count as multiple inputs so I could set my side mouse button hold to keep clicking left click? Is that allowed?

[@Empyriangaming]

Nope, not allowed.

[@YoungsterJoey151]

1 input per action.

[@Baldthazar]

I think it's thematically appropriate for running simulacrums to cost IRL sanity

[@JaredJuetten]

What's the key-bind to pick stuff up fast like that? I always struggle! T_T

[@bonez994]

He uses a program to bind his scroll wheel to left click. It's called X-mouse button control

[@elantonelle]

autoclicker

[@YoungsterJoey151]

@@elantonelle no, not an auto clicker. Auto clickers are bannable. It’s a program that remaps keybinds on your mouse. He uses his scroll wheel to click.

[@elantonelle]

@@YoungsterJoey151 yeah but autoclicker is much better

[@justinhowe3878]

Simulacrum is a farming mechanic in Path of Exile.

[@solucky88]

Dropped a 3 passive voices last night after about 5 or 6 7 passives

[@ChrisGuldan]

i do this with afk minions and i do it with a couple accounts all i can say is you can play league and all downtimes i tap in its so good but i just pic the good value ones

[@randomguy3869]

Maybe i'll finally run Simus again, got sick after basically exclusively running them like 4 years ago

[@kobayashid3186]

If you can go into Simulacrum in first few days of the league even 7 passive voices are 1 Div. And it’s very easy to farm until you get a headhunter or mageblood. But as Empy said it’s really boring.

[@Schmidteren]

So 1 in 200 are voices with 1 empty node. You found 2 in 25. So 2500 in total and you should get one unless you are unlucky. Who is going to do 2500 simulacrums? @Slipperyjim8 ?

[@ParagonPanda]

I did Wave 15 with my Lacerate Glad just to check my Def but the loot was.. bad 😅

[@jessyroucher7948]

thanks for your videos, is it possible for you to make a pob please ? i'd love to try out your build, it look very funny to play

[@xellian6252]

Bought 30 simulacrums to run while watching a movie, on first simul i got 1 passive Voices. A sold other 29 simuls and went mapping. I will never get any loot from simuls again in my life

[@TheLiquidRemix]

I wish i could finish Simu's, ive never once had a build capable :(

[@brunomec1]

well, I got my voices 1 passive in the 6 wave, so yeah.

[@MegasSalavatis]

You really got a good grasp and what people enjoy watching, dear sir!

[@dervakommtvonhinten517]

hahaha, that taunt about "interest in this area" made me laugh xD

[@ZwetendeMan]

ah men the preparation bit got me xD i knew it was coming, but still.

[@larpera960]

Can someone explain to me why HH is trash? I feel like it's pretty good when doing full juiced delirium 8 mod maps for example, get tons of buffs and you're basically immortal if you go fast enough to keep those buffs up.

[@zacharymichael9718]

It's a joke. HH was trash for several leagues. It's pretty good this league, but it'll never be the endgame chase item it was. Plenty of vls mappers use it, including me. It's selling in the mid 20d range, so it's relevant.

[@LordNeverwinter]

I loved megalomaniacs back in the day

[@MrE517]

14.2 minutes per simulacrum is extremely fast

[@Schmidteren]

You just said I have a pretty good character. My life is complete!

[@xanderd6847]

I’m sitting on like 40 of these this league lol. Means they will be 100% profit of I have the stomach for it.

[@forcexcanada]

I have a character capable of Sim and I like the Maven, exarch, and eater have no interest in the simulacrum

[@keek1337]

bro was spittin at 3 mins 😂

[@teitonii]

as soon as i saw the clip of exile's afk sim farmer i knew it was designated "bot farm content, not worth for human participants" since thats how that always works. osrs vets know well

[@VincentKun]

Why there are weapons in stash

[@jeanperdsmesbras5720]

To fill up most of the inventory and take out 10 maps, that then fill only the last 10 slots, just for convenience, so that items you get in maps are on the left and mostly don't touch de maps, easy dump easy life

[@Feanturo]

Not even bought them from faustus, could have saved some time.

[@Stonegoal]

A quiver has gem slots now?

[@zacharymichael9718]

One quiver has sockets, I'm blanking on the name right now.

[@Empyriangaming]

Malone’s mechanism

[@Stonegoal]

@@Empyriangaming After Zach's reply I looked it up but thanks for the comment.

[@lucanastral735]

I'm enjoying simulacrum, though granted I'm playing a CWS chieftain afk farmer and watching youtube instead of playing it

[@dimitrischeinoporos]

bro if you had swaped grace with volatility for example you would have +15 divs

[@Empyriangaming]

Volatility needs quality so you need to level it twice so i’d have half the gems. I didn’t say i levelled the best gem, just take a look at the market and make a judgement at the time.

[@MrRaja]

Most of the profit comes from 84+ cluster jewels and cracked megalomaniacs... So whatever the profit is times that by two for real estimation.

[@Zylosio]

Except 84 Clusters arent worth anything this league anymore they are like 20c

[@tonnirotta]

0:23 HELLO ME IN THE TWITCH CHAT

[@NatiiixLP]

-25- 21 Sims for 3div? Surely that's some streamer pricing. Are they actually so cheap in 3.25? What happened? 22c per Sim on Trade rn, wtf? I remember paying well over 1d for each in 3.23, and it was reasonably profitable as long as you had an AFK build.

[@Empyriangaming]

If you look at the trade you can see that it’s 21. They were 7 to a div a few days ago. I bought on trade.

[@NatiiixLP]

@@Empyriangaming Oh no I was just joking about the "streamer pricing", lol. Just pointing out that the current price of Sims is much much lower than previous leagues.

[@Empyriangaming]

They are cheaper because they changed them. You may have been joking about the streamer pricing, but you still got 25 for 3 div wrong so I figured it's worth pointing out.

[@NatiiixLP]

@@Empyriangaming Ah yea, I thought you bought them all at once, didn't count, thought there were 6 rows in the trade window, not 5. I'm just surprised and glad that they're so cheap, so they're more accessible to new players with little currency to give it a shot. 🙏 The 30 waves were unbearable, with the first 20 waves being just too boring. Even 15 waves feels too long. I kinda wish they added an option to skip straight to wave 11-15 after clearing wave 15 once. Or, even better, similar to Maven invitations, add an option to spawn the first 10 waves at once, much faster, or something. Risk/reward would be similar, but less boring.

[@Spectyrr]

I love when the sim man talks dirty to me 😩😩

[@nik_ms]

My name is Oliver Queen. For five years I was "stranded" on simulacrum with only one goal... decent drops. Now I will fulfill my father's dying wish... to run the T17s he left me to make some profit.

[@stephenEs3532]

t17 would not of been out at the time of 'fathers wish' hush up you arrow numnutz

[@jonnyfive1982]

I enjoy your content Empy. However, you should take a page out of Grimro's book and load up a tasty spreadsheet for totalling up your profits. Watching the calculator portion is kind of boring, almost like ASMR lol... I legit watch these before bed. 'Preciate your content.

[@Empyriangaming]

No

[@Bramrpg]

Dude, the calculator is peak Empy content, what are you talking about?

[@eldoctoroso]

Wealthy exile prices clsuter jewels too BTW

[@TheSacredMaster]

Simulacrum is only enjoyable if you afk XD

[@whateverppl1229]

I made a sim char (afk one tho)

[@WebCamCartmell]

"YT people he didn't show us the clip" AfroSniperZa SNITCHED

[@krutrobert]

SLEEPERacrum

[@dungphan8041]

Sim is like 7:1div in gold market

[@jeanperdsmesbras5720]

well 25 for 3 div wasn't that far off

[@_Aynix]

Headhunter is amazing nowadays considering how many extra rares you can add with new scarabs. But please just remove Shroudwalker, its annyoing.

[@zacharymichael9718]

Think that's the joke. HH fell off hard for several leagues. I just bought one for 26d, so it's a relevant item this league.

[@_Aynix]

@@zacharymichael9718 26D? Damn it got so cheap, I bought mine for 80D early in the league.

[@metachigx]

start choking! yeeeeeees

[@j.c.4965]

i just sold my simulacrums after watching this 😆

[@GrimnirLaguz28]

How dare you disrespect the tree?!

[@thomasborgland9247]

you only do this for Voices chance. done like 50 so far and had 20 drop. good gamba realy, but 1-200 is 1 passive xD

[@SaabiMuller]

But...why?

[@Zorkey]

XD sick prep time.

[@psydankthepsyduck4890]

Based for sure

[@lexsilencer9365]

I run 20x simu, 15 min per 15 weaves. The rewards are beyond terrible. Waste of time

[@kernoleary1394]

I think on week 1 this was alot better. I ran 10 waves at a time just to hit the challenge, and it was quite decent on day 3-4

[@nuyunuyuyu7592]

SO YOU ARE THE REASON ORNATE INCUBATORS ARE SO EXPENSIVE AGAIN

[@Empyriangaming]

What? I've never bought or talked about ornate incubators

[@bonych5768]

first

[@daruthebeast]

bro can do that many simulacrums, but can't price check megalomanias

[@Empyriangaming]

I mean I clearly can, but I don’t want to :D

[@daruthebeast]

@@Empyriangaming ;)

[@emit1382]

first?

[@otdeSai]

def first

[@BLUGTheK]

"Start CHOCKING?! this is prime NICE!! this is very good YOU'RE DEAD! YEAHH YEAHH" : nugi Honesty nugi need to voice over an Gauntlet event, LOL he always in the zone and hyping even on an meaningless shit in his stream which is hilarious. edit: its "Alkaizer" not "nugiyen" dont know why i got they swap place in my tiny brain.

[@waowNroks]

It's Alkaizer...

[@BLUGTheK]

@@waowNroks thx for correction, my brain freeze. and now i wonder why i write nugi instead of Alk...

[@harborwolf22]

Headhunters cost over 100 divine on console. I don't know when I last even saw a mage blood listed. They need go adjust loot drop rates on console... Fucking absurd.