Can You Race Downhill On An Enduro Bike? | Neil Rides Garbanzo Downhill At Crankworx 2019

[@gmbn]

Would you ride this track on an enduro bike?

[@NoName-fy9rz]

Global Mountain Bike Network if only i have an enduro bike

[@EnterThom]

Ofc I'm doing some dh tracks on an all mountain bike

[@techdeckmad100]

what do you think about the torque? surely that would be best for something like this?

[@reallybigphilly]

I weigh 104kg; probably a poor idea on any bike...

[@INTEL965GAMES]

Need an enduro bike first.............................

[@Appetite4Rose]

Was expecting to see more footage of Neil’s ride, especially POV... was hoping to see him being pushed hard to do the course on the enduro bike with some in-ride commentary from Neil saying how difficult it is

[@chris_noswe]

Yeah I was expecting more too. Meh.

[@Duncan23]

I'm sure that will be coming in another video :)

[@jonathanmatthews4774]

Agreed. An 8 minute video and literally less than a minute of his actual footage (not counting repeated scene's)

[@leofinalizacao]

It’s a paid promotion what do you expect? You can’t see the bike / brand from POV perspective

[@neildonoghueMTB]

Yeah, fair comment. My Gopro froze on the start line so we didnt get much footage unfortunately

[@michaelsteane2858]

Sam Pilgrim would do this on a Walmart bike lol

[@ntl6423]

😂😂😂

[@crisprapper]

He pretty much did!

[@ironbloodedorphan5003]

behind him riding is seth bike hacks

[@snakebiteparadise5504]

@@jadenr.11 look seth's boyfriend is here :D

[@Pheonix-rw2jz]

Nah On a free bike

[@tecdesigns8183]

If you adjust your style you can do most courses on any mtb. Remember years ago riders only having a couple of inches of travel. Mtbs have become huge business so they'll always come up loads of new products. But you need to sit back and think do I really need it

[@jonathanmatthews4774]

Yes.

[@JoshuaTootell]

I've done stuff on my XC hardtail that I see people skip on Enduro bikes. The modern bikes all the way around are amazing, even modern XC. I just prefer my big bike when I'm taking a lift.

[@snakebiteparadise5504]

I started riding mtb on zero suspension. Back in early 90's. Untill today i am glad i did. Now with modern bikes line choise is not as important as it was then. Most long sus. bikes just go over everything. But its not always faster. I rode my canyon spectral down a pro line and was a lot faster then my buddy on his dh bike. We are pretty similar riders. But the difference is he goes in a straight line while i look for a line that's smooth and fast. Just because i learned to avoid rocks on my riggid bike years ago. Downside? It doesn't look very spectacular. 😀🤷🏽‍♂️

[@mattleonard5268]

In the early days, they raced the leaping lizards on full rigid bikes with 2.1 inch tires and 24 in bars.

[@migatron1]

Let's not forget Phil Atwill hit that WC DH run (in practice) on a hardtail last year

[@rando_rabe713]

Blake "mega avalanche on a hardtail" Neil "can an Enduro bike do dh?"

[@crisprapper]

Seriously 🤣

[@supersecretninjame]

Sam Pilgrim: Walmart bike

[@danaminyip]

Stanton rider DarrenEvans did mega on a hardtail

[@samu.6878]

And what about Enduro on an Downhill-Bike?

[@leRat699]

Yeeessss please!!

[@florianw.560]

No way. You will die on the uphill sections.

[@panzerveps]

XC on DH bike.

[@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_]

Just need a wide range cassette and you're good.

[@polishguywithhardtospellna8227]

What about XC race on a recumbent?

[@the_spanner_ch7mp]

Nice Neil never doubted you'd not make it or enjoy that race great stuff. As the norm great video #GMBN 👍👊

[@jamiewall9076]

So it was a, race, where did you place? Hope to see another clip soon with some of your race fottage.

[@lofisz]

In Pro category he was 20th out of 26 finishers

[@jamiewall9076]

@@lofisz thank you, thought he might of said so though.

[@EnterThom]

@@jamiewall9076 *have

[@gmbn]

Hey Jamie, Neil placed 20th with a time of 00:14:51.590 and was 60 seconds behind Kyle Strait. Mitch Ropelato won the event with a finishing time of 00:12:36.680! Unfortunately Neil's POV camera failed in the start gate and he didn't have time to change it due to being in a race situation. We would have loved to have been able to provide a follow cam through this race but we were not allowed to do this. Even if we could it would have been hard to find someone able to keep up with Neil when he is in full race mode!

[@clareclarefasler8532]

Global Mountain Bike Network Difficult to find someone to follow him in race mode 😂. Perhaps one of the 20 people whom finished with a quicker time 20/26 that’s shocking for someone like Neil. Defo not surprisingly he didn’t mention his position lol

[@guillemmoix2123]

Tomi Misser yesterday won DH world championship M45 on an Enduro bike.

[@joshuadunn2312]

I love watching Neil ride. So smooth!

[@TMBTCHR]

Nice video, I feel this was to easy for the don ... Do it on a 130/140 travel 29er next time 😳

[@Asthbendriel]

whenever you start using trail bikes as downhill bikes, is the moment when you start breaking frames , to say the least

[@froznfire9531]

@@Asthbendriel not in a 15 minute descend... maybe on a hardtail but not with a decend trail bike if you know what your dounf

[@Asthbendriel]

@@froznfire9531 the key is in the "if you know what you're doing" 140mm travel bikes are not meant to be used as downhill bikes, so it's obviously doable but most of the features should be either skipped, worked around or not meant to be done in a very often way. Maybe for him to clear it just for the sake of it would be ok since he's probably going to do it once or twice while recording the video and then be done with it, but there's people that sees him doing it, think it's ok for their everyday rides and eventually break things 😅

[@froznfire9531]

@@Asthbendriel yeah ofc you dont use a trail bike as a all day bike when you are racing downhill races:) but he still should be fine when doing it once 😄

[@oldchannel987]

That's a trail bike btw

[@crisprapper]

I enjoy that this video exists where you ride a long travel enduro bike down the trails to prove it's capable. ...when Sam Pilgrim bought an $80 rigid bike and hit up several Whistler trails on it. The answer to "can you do on a bike is almost always yes.

[@connorhalpin2305]

Can I do Crankworx slope style on a cruiser?

[@crisprapper]

@@connorhalpin2305 well you obviously can't read... ;)

[@LooneyTune666]

Whilst it’s great to see rides like this showing the versatility of bikes, I’d like GMBN to show off DH bikes more often, especially when the chance arises at Whistler.

[@takegoodcareoftheforestdew5339]

We were riding DH on hardtails, with 100mm of travel and v brakes in the early 90s. A modern enduro bike is more capable that a DH bike of 7 to 10 years ago.

[@janprachar5066]

But the trails are more brutal nowadays too.

[@James-yy4vl]

Trails were nowhere near as difficult though

[@takegoodcareoftheforestdew5339]

@@James-yy4vl I'll concede the jumps are huge in comparison, but the techy bits - steeps, rocks, roots, etc. - are no more brutal. You can just ride them faster today.

[@Guanquenobi1]

Tomi Misser, DH master world champion with an enduro bike 😜🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@neilcheshire5726]

Good work Neil. GMBN black stealth kit looks good too. Finally a design worth buying.

[@petersauer94]

Brilliant, well done Neil you gave it a go and had fun 👏🤘

[@scothinckley]

This is beautifully shot. I love the integration of real quality film making into the content. Keep it up, guys.

[@aliikane]

It is a great format. Cross between a DH and Enduro.

[@theedmondsept]

I own a 2018 Pivot Firebird 27.5 and I have done DH race's on it and have had decent results, I agree with Neil

[@jamesowen5492]

This came Just in time to stop me doing anything productive today

[@leonidesgallardo5290]

Absolutely.

[@jooncash4709]

YESSS THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN WANTING FOR AGES

[@keeganfuller2185]

Let’s go thank you for uploading yeessss

[@jurianandreev7828]

Thanks for video Neil

[@CyberdyneSystemsSkynet]

Today at a USAC XCO regional series race the winner of the Cat 1 Elite/Pro men's category won by several minutes on a Cannondale Topstone with I think 40c tires. It's not that hard to move one class either way in bikes, there's so much overlap now with a specific type of bike for every condition and race.

[@matthias4185]

Enduro is cool because u can do a lots of differents things with it :)

[@YogevMontekyo]

After a week in a bikepark with both (Rented a Patrol and later on a Wilson), i can definitely say that DH tracks are really fun on an enduro bike. Though it's not as fast and the bike isn't as forgiving as a downhill bike, it's definitely capable enough for most tracks. It's just a different kind of fun 😎

[@garrettturbett593]

“Can you race DH on an Enduro bike? 2:28 2017 Sam Blankensop...came second...” So, that’s a yes! No need to watch the next 8’ of this advert. Thanks 👍

[@GelMibson-u2y]

Of course you can. You can probably limp down on an xc bike too with enough balls, confidence and skill

[@jonathanmatthews4774]

More balls and less sense of self-preservation

[@timothyleonardpugal2713]

you can't just "reckon", Neil! you have to do the back-to-back, mate!

[@neildaniel8232]

I was faced with either taking my Enduro bike to Chatel last year (Cotic Rocket) or buy a second-hand DH bike. The Enduro bike was the obvious choice as it was just as good geometry-wise but had much better suspension. I put the fork up to 170mm from it's normal 160mm and I found it was slacker than quite a few of the DH bikes in the lift queue! Also helps that my skill level is not really limited by the bike so a DH bike isn't going to suddenly make me a riding God.

[@truepietro]

Great result Neal!

[@lukerlaforest4039]

The Don racing again! 👍👍

[@ruperthobson3297]

That poc body armour is soo good such a sleek and cool looking design

[@willbennett7107]

Looks like a bulletproof vest but I like it

[@euanlithgow6910]

Yessss I’ve been wanting this vid in ages

[@mdtrx]

Would like to see how much difference can you get Strive VS Spectral

[@MySkobi]

Why dont we get the actual race footage? POV maybe. What was Neil's position at the end?

[@lofisz]

In Pro category he was 20th out of 26 finishers

[@MySkobi]

lofisz that is not that bad, since he is older and not racing for some time...

[@lofisz]

@@MySkobi agreed 😁

[@gmbn]

Hey, unfortunately Neil's POV camera failed in the start gate and he didn't have time to change it due to being in a race situation. We would have loved to have been able to provide a follow cam through this race but we were not allowed to do this. Even if we could it would have been hard to find someone able to keep up with Neil when he is in full race mode!

[@MySkobi]

@@gmbn Thank you. It was still a great video. And Neil did great if you ask me

[@philstuart8752]

Sam Hill did world's DH at Cairns in 2017 on his enduro.

[@migatron1]

True true

[@jerryvolpini7987]

Ballsy ride Neil, loved it!

[@allenjanes5976]

Nice job Neil.

[@juliushoon4310]

Plsss do a Review on the poc guard

[@themidnightrider6805]

That was AMAZING! Neil is the SHIT🤘I wouldn’t be watching GMBN if it wasn’t for him!

[@YouStoleMyChocobo]

spotted the tandem @1:28

[@nigeljohnson8022]

Thats something I would like to try, downhill on an enduro bike. You are right, bikes are becoming more and more versatile. Do you think it will get to the stage where one bike does all? Cheers for sharing your experience at whistler, are you planning to show some POV footage of your runs?

[@rupedog]

Shame his pov cam failed so no race footage. Been interesting to see back to back same race on enduro and dh bike, see the difference... maybe a furture vid... fort william track timed on both

[@mthe007]

How is this different from an Ews race stage? Based on the footage,it looks similar. Maybe the lack of huge world cup style jumps and drops make it more suitable for enduro bikes?

[@YamiRider21]

I raced my yeti sb 5 in a Dh series, you can send a hard tail if you wanted

[@stefromfortworth]

#askgmbn I think we’ve long since established that you can pretty much ride ANYTHING on pretty much any bike. E.g. Downhill on enduro, mega avalanche on a hardtail etc.... what about a video on how hard SHOULD you ride (insert bike type) before it becomes unnecessarily dangerous. I think this is a more relevant question to answer. People are doing Enduro races on hardtails but aren’t winning many, although there is obviously some crossover between bike types like XC/Trail, Trail/Enduro, Enduro/DH.... what’s the best all rounder?

[@Hazeder422]

probably something like this canyon or my personal favourite bike atm, propain spindrift, 27.5 wheels, 180 front and rear but is still very capable of climbing

[@maddox2028]

Do a vid on how to start racing

[@MrScrofulous]

I'm really curious as to how the bike trails relate to the ski trails. I've skied off the Garbanzo chair countless times (it ends just below the tree line, so it keeps working in the worst winter weather) taking either Raven to the left and bombing into Ptarmigan or coming onto Bear Paw from off Dave Murray Downhill. The old lift line from the top is getting really overgrown the last few years, but the other run is directly under the Garbanzo chair. Those shots seem to be deep in some trees, cool gladed areas like Club 21. Any ski bums here to clarify ? I'm the weird dude who thinks that downhill MTB and downhill ski-ing are the same sport, with minor surface and equipment differences only. The need to read terrain is exactly the same.

[@snat6299]

Sweet bike

[@duncandehulst2016]

3:16 lol i also did that this year in winterberg, but with me it was a wooden poll and it broke when I hit it xD

[@noahbraham473]

It’s all fun and games until Blake puts him in xc mode

[@Florian-ck9dh]

Next time, use a durt jump bike!

[@timschmitt8668]

why did you change the stovk wheelset for the dt swiss e1900?

[@proshopcuber121]

I raced Enduro on an XC bike with dh tyers.got 8th place.the bike weighed abt 14kg

[@ivanjones1534]

What if you are a 12 year old boy and you only get out on true dh trails 1 to 2 time's a week due to not being able to get rides from adults. Do you have any recommendations for a what I can do for training. Also I go to DH races around 10 times a season. Please give me some tips it would really help

[@richardhaselwood9478]

Great video. The question I've had, is how much time does someone loose racing an enduro bike vs. downhill, i.e. put Don on the same course (perhaps shorter ;) ) and compare times. If you haven't done it already. Thanks guys.

[@arctifoxdrew4362]

Now do an enduro race on a dh bike! I ride a dh bike as my only bike cuz I got a good deal

[@mostlikelywedoitservices6926]

So whats with the new poc chest plate your now wearing? Seems like a lot of videos your wearing it now.

[@andresbElSerBiologico]

Ok, I'm a bit confused what is, dino/ xc/ enduro and their differences? Any vid on the complicated complexity of the progressive sport of mtb?

[@lrvz7187]

What size is the dropper on that canyon, it looks really nice enterely fitting in the tube...

[@gmbn]

Here is his bike check from a few months back 👉 gmbn.tech/NeilsStrive

[@Franksey180]

Nice enough video, but not enough POV,and why did the video never actually stand a downhill bike next to an enduro bike to compare? That would have fitted in perfectly earlier on in the video.

[@gmbn]

Hey thanks! Unfortunately Neil's POV camera failed in the start gate and he didn't have time to change it due to being in a race situation. We would have loved to have been able to provide a follow cam through this race but we were not allowed to do this. Even if we could it would have been hard to find someone able to keep up with Neil when he is in full race mode!

[@jadeng5625]

Do an enduro race on a XC/Trail bike next time.

[@Nige1988]

#GMBN, Where did Neil finish in the race???

[@mabecka]

Hey hey!

[@Nerdbuilt]

Loic bruni on an evil 2015? So the answer is yes

[@samsnowden5403]

What’s the difference between a trail bike and enduro

[@pondusm]

Now let us see an enduro bike in a crosscountry race. :D

[@davidking3699]

The video is titled "Can YOU rrace downhill on an Enduro Bike?" Me, personally, not so fast or smooth...so, NO! However, if the title of this video was "Can Neil race downhill on a Enduro Bike?", well duh... YES... he could race downhill on a Penny Farthing (and probably 'manual' it on the straights)... and still beat me (twice)... the second lap on a unicycle...

[@bikingwith9634]

Awesome

[@andor_yoko]

What's next, Doddy racing XC on a downhill bike?

[@AlexT-md9df]

Should do it on a cyclocross bike

[@CRGT666]

For this cases, in which category did he run the race? Is there a specific category to race with an enduro bike on a down hill race? I mean, if it was an official UCI dh world cup, can you race with an enduro bike?

[@mccoyk5873]

Newb here any tips for MTB

[@Bart-xd5gg]

Don't get too caught up in all the expensive new bike stuff. Find a style that works for you and don't get discouraged when you do inevitably crash and stuff. Keep pushing yourself forwards with baby steps and you'll improve 👍🤟

[@Wizler71]

Enjoy yourself and the fun adventures to come. Find some friends to ride with, that makes a huge difference and way more fun.

[@jacksonseetolee4983]

xc bike vs dh race please

[@thedoortree9868]

Yes you can

[@MrMorka39]

Neil, what's your height and what size Strive? Thank you

[@eliotwolfert8488]

when would you wear a neck brace?

[@J14Mizz]

Paging Blake Samson to beat that time on a hardtail next year...

[@dfathatgmx]

No Continental tires ?

[@charlito_gk3880]

Just a question, can we change the Dh sprocket and derailleur for an 10s sprocket (or less speeds with a bigger diameter) and enduro derailleur???

[@gilbertmarinay873]

did you make adjustments with the suspension set up?

[@ronaldtartaglia4459]

PREMIUM NEIL!!!!!!!!!

[@williamterrill4384]

Out of curiosity where do you rank in the race

[@Hazeder422]

20 out of the 26 pro men

[@williamterrill4384]

@@Hazeder422 out of curiosity where did you rank out of the whole competition and not just the pros sorry should have been more specific with my first question but it's nice to know your pro ranking too

[@Hazeder422]

@@williamterrill4384 sorry that's Neill's ranking not mine😂I just saw someone else comment that he ranked 20th of 26, I don't even race yet and live in the UK, I'm not sure what Neill's ranking was out of everyone

[@williamterrill4384]

@@Hazeder422 thank you for being honest and thanks for attempting to answering my question

[@bechall3236]

Can you please come to Australia (yes you blake you legend)

[@triciaflanagan5668]

Bec Hall Blake is my idol!!!

[@NoName-fy9rz]

Even XC bikes can race downhill😂

[@ntl6423]

No way

[@QQ-fu1gu]

Good

[@danieleasson5681]

What inserts were you using

[@Pillokun]

The issue with DH is that you basically can only go down the hill, what is the fun in that? either you try to make your way up the hill as well on the bike or if you want to go a bit faster and not pedal just buy an enduro :P

[@adamtousek7622]

Where is Blake on a hardtail?

[@ChristopherPronger]

Since every other video here is an ad, I'm expecting a Blake special: "Can you play a game of BIKE on a brand new Canyon Strive?"

[@rafaelparedes1937]

Did I miss how he did on placement?

[@nyashadj4347]

SHIRT OF ON THE ROCK

[@oldchannel987]

2019 U.S. National Downhill Champions: Saw footage of 2 women using Enduro bikes

[@hanzvictorpagcu8000]

Is an enduro bike good for the streets

[@kmsebike27]

Zo'q qoil.

[@Aetz-SarasolaHoberena]

and on a all mountain?