Can you see what the problem is? If sin(theta)=1/2 and cos(theta)=3/4, then tan(theta)=?

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If sin(theta)=1/2 and cos(theta)=3/4, then what's the value of tan(theta)? I almost put this question on a test for my trig students but lucky I caught a mistake in the problem before I do so. Can you see the problem in the problem?
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@bprpmathbasics
@bprpmathbasics 13 күн бұрын
Hate to be that guy but I need the extra credit: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZaTd3x5gJtppck
@Steve_Stowers
@Steve_Stowers 13 күн бұрын
Logically, when P is a false statement, "If P then Q" is true for any Q. So any answer to that question should be considered correct.
@danielnoe5782
@danielnoe5782 13 күн бұрын
I agree. It’s the same reasoning for this statement being true “if the moon is cheese, then I can fly.” Assume the moon is cheese. Thus, I can fly.
@xinpingdonohoe3978
@xinpingdonohoe3978 13 күн бұрын
Indeed. There are three ways to logically conclude things. T→T, F→F, F→T. This starts with an F, so we can get anything we want, whether T or F (though I don't know if any single answer counts as true within this context).
@stephenbeck7222
@stephenbeck7222 12 күн бұрын
But here tan theta depends on theta itself, and there is no value of theta that makes sense in the problem so there is no definition for tan theta. It’s like saying, if x = x+1, then what is x^2? You can’t just declare the statement is vacuous and x^2 equals whatever you want.
@danielnoe5782
@danielnoe5782 12 күн бұрын
@@stephenbeck7222 but by the rules of logic, you can.
@xinpingdonohoe3978
@xinpingdonohoe3978 12 күн бұрын
@@stephenbeck7222 yes you can. If x=x+1, then subtract x on both sides to get 0=1. From there, multiply both sides by x²-α to get 0=x²-α. Finally, x²=α. Choose whichever α you like to let x² be whatever you want.
@fahrrad67
@fahrrad67 12 күн бұрын
This begs for a new geometry to be described in which sin θ = 1/2 and cos θ = 3/4 can actually occur, it will be named bprp space.
@TheWeeb-j5g
@TheWeeb-j5g 8 күн бұрын
Dude that's so normal in maths lol
@TheWeeb-j5g
@TheWeeb-j5g 8 күн бұрын
If something doesn't exist then just make it exist lol
@futilitariano
@futilitariano 6 күн бұрын
Perhaps that is the sort of idea behind 2 + 2 = 5. One can show this mathematically as follows. 1. Let a = b. 2. Then ab = b^2 [multiply both sides of equation in 1. by b.] 3. and ab - a^2 = b^2 - a^2 [subtract both sides of equation in 2. by a^2] 4. Then a(b - a) = (b + a)(b - a) [factor both sides of equation in 3.] 5. and a = b + a [divide both sides of equation in 4. by b - a] 6. Since a = b [given equation in 1.], a = a + a or a = 2a 7. and 1 = 2 [divide both sides of equation in 6. by a] 8. It follows that 2 + 2 = 2 + 1 + 1 = 2 + 1 + 2 = 5. That is, 2 + 2 = 5. [ 2 = 1 + 1, 1 = 2 from equation in line 7., substitution and arithmetic]
@genio2509
@genio2509 5 күн бұрын
​@@futilitarianoNo, this is different. This joke proof is actually just completely invalid as you are dividing by 0. x/0 just has no determined value, as sometimes it is 1, sometimes 0, sometimes ∞ and sometimes -∞, and that just proves you can't divide by 0. A closer example would be a riddle I've been told: A hunter is tracking a bear, he sees footprints and follows 1km south, then 1km east, them 1km north, and realizes he's in the same place. What's the color of the bear? (I'll give you space if you want to solve it lol) White because of spherical geometry, he's at the north pole. You can get a 270° triangle, and yuo can also get paralel lines that meet, and so much more.
@richardhole8429
@richardhole8429 13 күн бұрын
I caught the errant question immediatly. SinX=1/2, X=30° Cos30° does not equal 3/4 so reject the problem. The answer is: the question is faulty
@PlanesAndGames732
@PlanesAndGames732 11 күн бұрын
Maybe the mistake was a square missing in the cosine...
@ingiford175
@ingiford175 12 күн бұрын
One thing, if you are creating a question like this and want all integers, just use a pythagorean triple. Example 3/5 and 4/5 or if want larger numbers use 5/13 and 12/13.
@MrH4nky
@MrH4nky 13 күн бұрын
I think someone just lost a square root for the cos. Then it does make sense (sqrt(3/4) = sqrt(3)/2)
@MadaraUchihaSecondRikudo
@MadaraUchihaSecondRikudo 13 күн бұрын
Just from the thumbnail if sin(theta) = 1/2 then theta = 30 deg + 360n deg, none of the possible values of theta produce 3/4 for cos (theta), cos30 = sqrt(3)/2
@SimsHacks
@SimsHacks 11 күн бұрын
you forgot θ = 150° + n*360°, it doesn't change anything but still
@DrFunkman
@DrFunkman 13 күн бұрын
“…and so, you get no solution” *Me, who got 2 as their answer* : Well duh, of course there’s no solution
@m.h.6470
@m.h.6470 13 күн бұрын
If you give these three equations to wolfram alpha with the "system of 3 equations" function: sinx = 1/2 cosx = 3/4 tanx = y it returns "no solutions exist".
@ACertainMan
@ACertainMan 13 күн бұрын
Because there is no solution.
@m.h.6470
@m.h.6470 13 күн бұрын
@@ACertainMan Obviously... I never said otherwise.
@ACertainMan
@ACertainMan 13 күн бұрын
@@m.h.6470 lol
@mgmartin51
@mgmartin51 9 күн бұрын
The question was "If...", so the answer is 2/3. Of course, there is no sin x = 1/2 and cos x = 3/4 in this universe, to the answer is "non sequitur".
@orngng
@orngng 12 күн бұрын
Vacuously true statement
@aliskprado
@aliskprado 12 күн бұрын
I was thinking in this line too.
@OverclockingCowboy
@OverclockingCowboy 10 күн бұрын
You have 2 tangent values. One for sin A = 1/2 and the other for cos B = 3/4.
@Firor0
@Firor0 13 күн бұрын
Welp i hope i get this on the test
@noahblack914
@noahblack914 13 күн бұрын
Immediately knew something was up. Thanks unit circle!
@davidmiedema2950
@davidmiedema2950 13 күн бұрын
Put it on the test as is... then extra credit for the students who recognize the error...
@jmr5125
@jmr5125 10 күн бұрын
I'd just put it on as a clearly marked "extra credit" question. Perhaps even with a "Yes, this is extra credit -- this question is harder than you think!"
@ronaldking1054
@ronaldking1054 13 күн бұрын
The person could invert the cos x so that it was ((4/3)^2 - 1)^(1/2) = (7/9)^(1/2) = (7)^(1/2) / 3, which does not equal 2/3. That is using the secant identity rather than the definition of tangent.
@neilmccafferty5886
@neilmccafferty5886 10 сағат бұрын
Sin^2 + cos^2 = 13/16. Therefor cannot be a right angled triangle.
@Chris-hf2sl
@Chris-hf2sl 4 күн бұрын
No need to watch the video. We know that sin(x)^2 + cos(x)^2 = 1. Put the values in: (1/2)^2 + (3/4)^2 does not equal 1. Therefore the starting premises are inconsistent.
@rodrigoqteixeira
@rodrigoqteixeira 3 күн бұрын
When I saw the thumb nail, I went to check the unit circle thingy (cos² + sin² = 1), and the radius squared of that unit circle is 0.8125 💀
@DhoklaAboveVadapav
@DhoklaAboveVadapav 5 күн бұрын
Simple. sin^2(theta) = 1/4 cos^2(theta) = 9/16 sin^2(theta) + cos^2(theta) = 1/4 + 9/16 = 13/16 ≠ 1 So statement is false. Edit: I am a genius
@futilitariano
@futilitariano 6 күн бұрын
Since(1/2)^2 + (3/4)^2 does not equal 1, theta can't represent a single number. Recall that sin^2(@) + cos^2(@) = 1 for all real numbers @.
@joeschmo622
@joeschmo622 7 күн бұрын
Yeh, I saw that immediately. No way sin and cos are both "clean" fractions like that. One might be, but the other would be some radical. Quick check with sin^2+cos^2=1, and nope. Only 0/+1/-1 work out cleanly.
@jimwinchester339
@jimwinchester339 7 күн бұрын
Or, you could just reason, "well, *IF* that's true, then tan(theta)=2/3; but it's not - - but IF IT WERE, that'd be true."
@adamrussell658
@adamrussell658 9 күн бұрын
You have two different thetas. Arcsin 0.5 = 30 degrees and arccos 0.75 = approx 41 degrees
@RealQinnMalloryu4
@RealQinnMalloryu4 6 күн бұрын
sin0=(1/2)^2 cos0=(3/4)^2= {sin01/4 ➖ cos09/16}=sin0cos08/12 =sin0cos08/3^4 sin0cos02^3/3^4 sin0cos01^1^1/3^2^2 sin0cos01/3^1^2 sinocos0/3^2 (sin0cos0 ➖ 3sin0cos0+2)
@officialkivoc
@officialkivoc 11 күн бұрын
i was thinking about how sin30 should equal 1/2, and how cos30 is definitely not 3/4...
@Shaia_TeamLCE
@Shaia_TeamLCE 5 күн бұрын
I’m guessing before I watch the video than tan = 2/3 Edit: My answer was shut down in the first 30 seconds 😞
@franciscoGENIO13
@franciscoGENIO13 8 күн бұрын
This is Impossible. Notice that sin²θ + cos²θ = ¼ + 9/16 = 13/16 ≠ 1
@ChandrasegaranNarasimhan
@ChandrasegaranNarasimhan 6 күн бұрын
The triangle may not be right angled. But, I agree that the person who noticed the flaw is smart.
@jackkalver4644
@jackkalver4644 4 күн бұрын
I didn’t even have to click the video to realize that sin^2 θ +cos^2 θ ≠1
@jacobgoldman5780
@jacobgoldman5780 8 күн бұрын
The question is wrong but if A and B then if one is false we can give any correct answer.
@roger9552
@roger9552 13 күн бұрын
The problem is sin^2 theta + cos^2 theta doesn’t equal 1
@goyo9992
@goyo9992 12 күн бұрын
El problema de este problema es que el planteamiento es falso: sen^2 (x) + cos^2 (x) no es 1
@joansoldevilacaba4138
@joansoldevilacaba4138 13 күн бұрын
could be possible that the person who had proposed this problem forgot the square for cosinus?
@als2cents679
@als2cents679 8 күн бұрын
Well, it depends on what is the value of x^2 + x when x = 1 and x^2 = 2
@guntramschlemminger7383
@guntramschlemminger7383 6 күн бұрын
Is sin( theta ) = 0.5 the cos of the same angle can not be equal 0.75.
@VladimírBordováč
@VladimírBordováč 10 күн бұрын
The problem has no solution even in complex numbers.
@drazenbicanic3590
@drazenbicanic3590 11 күн бұрын
If sine is equal to 1/2, cosine cannot be 3/4
@xia-bi-ding.
@xia-bi-ding. 13 күн бұрын
tan 0 =2/3 (不懂怎么写tan后面的😢)
@andreykarbinovskiy430
@andreykarbinovskiy430 8 күн бұрын
sin squared plus cos squared is not equal to 1
@KKT-k2r
@KKT-k2r 2 күн бұрын
the angle must be differ
@petohunor6737
@petohunor6737 7 күн бұрын
sin(30°) =1/2 cos(30°)=sqrt(3)/2
@joe_z
@joe_z 12 күн бұрын
I was trying to figure out whether you were thinking of some weird complex number, or actually meant to write cos² instead of cos (in which case it's actually fine). Turns out, nope, you just chose two wrong numbers :(
@dlevi67
@dlevi67 12 күн бұрын
If sin(θ) = 1/2 and cos(θ) = 3/4, then θ is the famous Heisenberg angle. Or maybe not even that, since unitarity is not maintained.
@maxhagenauer24
@maxhagenauer24 12 күн бұрын
I could tell it wouldn't make sense because I was trying to make a 3-4-5 right triangle or some sort of perfect right triangle out of it with the pythagorean triples. The 1/2 and 3/4 are just the ratios and no the actual side lengths of the triangles but there would be no triangle to make that true sense they have an even denominator (2 and 4) when no pythagorean triple has an even hypotheses.
@senhueichen3062
@senhueichen3062 Күн бұрын
5/6.
@arpitpatel5814
@arpitpatel5814 6 күн бұрын
My friend, There exist NO θ which satisfy your question There exist no θ which satisfies If Cos(θ) = 1/2 Then Sin(θ) = 0.866 It cannot be 3/4 Your θs in sin and cos are different This is basic mathematics You cannot use θ in both terms Keep trying, Maths is beautiful.❤
@david_porthouse
@david_porthouse 11 күн бұрын
Brown
@cyrusyeung8096
@cyrusyeung8096 13 күн бұрын
Usually, either sin(theta) or cos(theta) is given, and students are required to find the other one.
@IloveRumania
@IloveRumania 10 күн бұрын
tan(theta) = 2/3
@JJ_TheGreat
@JJ_TheGreat 12 күн бұрын
2/3
@dannyyeung8237
@dannyyeung8237 13 күн бұрын
Is sin²θ+cos²θ=1 true for all complex values θ as well? By the way if θ is a complex number, it is equal to a+bi for some real number a and b and i=√(-1)
@dabs4270
@dabs4270 13 күн бұрын
yes, sin²θ+cos²θ=1 is true for all θ, including complex numbers
@Musterkartoffel
@Musterkartoffel 13 күн бұрын
1:40
@xinpingdonohoe3978
@xinpingdonohoe3978 13 күн бұрын
Yes, it's true for all numbers. And it's generally agreed that it's better to say i²=-1 rather than i=√(-1).
@user62490
@user62490 13 күн бұрын
That's not even a triangle for all possible values
@carultch
@carultch 9 күн бұрын
It's not even possible with complex values of theta either.
@AryuSingh17
@AryuSingh17 13 күн бұрын
how can cos30 = 3/4 😂 problem is drunk
@Orillians
@Orillians 13 күн бұрын
WAS THINKING THE SAME💀
@AryuSingh17
@AryuSingh17 13 күн бұрын
@@Orillians 💀
@motsyrhc7436
@motsyrhc7436 9 күн бұрын
or cos 150
@Orillians
@Orillians 9 күн бұрын
​@@motsyrhc7436 Cos 150 is negative 💀
@motsyrhc7436
@motsyrhc7436 9 күн бұрын
@Orillians yeah ik therefore there has to be a contradiction
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Guy doesn't know maths
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