Can you SHOOT a FEATURE FILM on the GH5?

[@Uberbets]

Does the GH5 come with a great script?

[@DavidBallin]

Hahahahaha so true. Ultimately, it’s a good story that counts in terms of good filmmaking. Image quality is less so

[@christophershivers6257]

try selling a film to someone with a whole bunch of noise, terrible lighting, terrible audio, bad acting, and wrong camera shots. When you're making a film it's not all about the story, it's not all about the gear, it's about using all of those elements together in a cohesive matter to get the most out of your story. Every aspect of a film is just as important as a script and vice versa

[@JaspreetSinghArtist]

@@christophershivers6257 Christopher Nolan in the house :)

[@davidhudley1116]

Lol good one. So many trash movies done on muti million $ budgets. Ive seen great low budget movies. Without a great story and actors/actresses , the camera wont mean sh** its the equivalent of a guy who cant play basketball but steps on the court wearing Jordans lol

[@loupremo]

@@christophershivers6257 ever seen napolian dynamite?

[@Ronbc000]

A nice result V-Log-L looks fine. GH5, ideal for any feature film.

[@ChrisButel]

Ron Coker yer I was quite impressed. I think v log just needs to be exposed properly... 1-1.5 stops over what you'd usually do.

[@Ronbc000]

Yes exactly, 1-1.5 over. Remember with Log, bright light = 11-13 stops DR as opposed to lowlight 7 stops DR. The trick is to shoot test footage with a range of exposure to establish what works with what.

[@saiprasad8001]

So did you finally get to make your feature film? What gear did you finally use if you did?

[@tomywidacol]

1. Get a pc and use premiere 2. Expose using the internal lut 3. Use faster glass or a speedbooster

[@ChrisButel]

+My Gmail yer I'm seriously considering getting a pc. My iMac was struggling to edit the gh5 stuff.

[@tomywidacol]

Chris Butel all big time filmmakers use pc for the upgradable format. You would be lucky to be able to upgrade the ram on an iMac

[@andrew1925]

yes. I would highly advise building a pc aswell. You then gain knowledge on how to upgrade in the future.

[@rizzo-films]

Not sure if it was an option back in June 2017, but if you edit in Premiere Pro you can just drag and drop the 10bit footage into your project, play it back and edit it without transcoding. So far I've only tried this in DaVinci and it doesn't work. You do need a powerful system (great GPU) to edit that in real-time without rendering but that goes for any 4k footage honestly. But, thanks for the tip on over-exposing v-log. I tend to under-expose in my footage on other cameras in general just to make sure nothing is blown out, so I would not have made that decision by default. Good to know.

[@ChrisButel]

Hey bro thanks for your comment. Yep you’re spot on the new firmware with the option to shoot at 4K 300mbs All I codec is a game changer but you’re right you need a hectic computer to edit it with (not to mention faster Sds). I’d recommend shooting at that higher bit rate if you’re doing V-log cause as you can see some of this early stuff at the low bit rates is super artifacty. Cheers.

[@strugs]

This looks excellent! Thank you for demonstrating this so cleanly and to the point. Subscribed!

[@Pietje_Piraat]

Shoot All-i and in black and white. You will not have to worry about color grading and it will be as good as if it was filmed in a RAW format.

[@SquizzFilms]

Great story telling Chris, you've earned yourself a sub!

[@ChrisButel]

+Squizz Films cheers mate! We've got another Ep coming out very soon

[@KaranSingh-ji1fu]

GH4 OR G85 I really need help in choosing a camera I mostly want to make comedy films

[@ChrisButel]

+Karan Singh the GH5 has an audio attachment module... id consider getting both of those... having more than the inbuilt mic is super important. I have heard good things about the G85 though. 😊

[@KaranSingh-ji1fu]

its my first time buying a camera and my budget is below $1000 any recommendation

[@ChrisButel]

Karan Singh. I think you should take a look at the canon 800d... or 700d or... T5i... not sure exactly what it's called. But all those canon cameras are really good. I'd definitely recommend getting at least a on camera rode video mic if you're recording audio. Nick really likes the Panasonic cameras. The G85 or the Sony a6500 seem to be really good options. Hopefully one of those cameras are in your buddy.

[@FilmDat]

Really nice vid Chris! I feel like playing around with the settings some more (making it look less sharp for example) and maybe using an ND Filter for a better DOF, could definitely make the GH5 useable for a sweet feature film. Felt like the background in some shots was too sharp for a film-look.

[@ChrisButel]

I couldn't agree more.

[@ChrisButel]

+Alex Matthew yer I think I briefly mentioned that it magnifies the sensor to a super 35mm equivalent. 😊 The more I play with the GH5 the More essential that metabones seems. I'm so use to that shallow DOF look. Hope you liked the Ep mate.

[@ah-ray]

Yes. But you can't sell it to Netflix or something because the quality isn't up to their standards so you'll need to do your own selling. Also, don't put white crop bars on the feature, export it in the aspect ratio of 2.35:1 if you want widescreen so people can watch it on their 21/9 monitors. :)

[@ChrisButel]

Hey Remco, Yer I actually looked into that... and it's a really good point. It's interesting though because I read up on the specs on Netflix and they seem to require high bit rates, 4K and a log picture profile which technically the GH5 is capable of... That being said it's something that's definitely worth looking into. VOD is most likely where I'd sell the film so it's 100% something to keep in mind. In terms of the crop bars they were just there so that the audience could tell the difference between the two cameras. Thanks for your comment. Hope you liked the ep. :)

[@ah-ray]

Chris Butel good luck! What's the budget if I may ask?

[@ChrisButel]

Remco Ardui haha not sure yet 🤔 Maybe around 10-15 thousand. Pretty low budget. I'll be posting production videos once we get started. Keen to go into pre soon.

[@ThomasofAllTrades]

upstream color was shot on gh2 and it's on netflix lol

[@ChrisButel]

+tjmac17 I absolutely love that movie. Shane Caruth is such a boss. I remember watching it and thinking it was shot on an Alexa. I think the thing is that if you want Netflix to buy your movie and be a "Netflix original" it has to be shot on specify camera formats. backlothelp.netflix.com/hc/en-us/articles/217237077-Production-and-Post-Production-Requirements-v2-1

[@PeteWoronowski]

Very good video, Thank you. I love my GH4 and GH5 which I have purchased recently and look forward to using them. Subscribed to your channel. Cheers, Pete

[@ambarishsn002]

Love your background score

[@NatesFilmTutorials]

This is great! I'd subscribe if I saw more like this.

[@ChrisButel]

+Nate's Film Tutorials working on new eps now dude. Been crazy busy with commercial work. Check out the Pentax and the Contax eps if you're keen to see more. I've also launched a podcast called Stories Through The Camera. It's on iTunes. The link is on the website. www.storiesthroughthecamera.com Let me know what you think. ✌🏻

[@sphynxmaine]

Nice video! love the GH5! coming from Queensland Australia

[@ChrisButel]

Cheers mate. If you're interested I've also recently launched a podcast which you can check out here: itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/stories-through-the-camera/id1239030480

[@sphynxmaine]

thank you!

[@stuCameraman1]

Well of course you CAN. You can even make a feature film with a hacked GH2....the popular film 'THE RAID' was shot on a Panasonic AF100 a 8bit 4.2.0 AVCHD camera! That had a big cinema release, Blueray, TV, and netflix release!

[@joonamato]

but that camera is better tho

[@reticulan5]

I don't see why Netflix would refuse a film based on it being shot on a Gh5. Especially in the near future where you'll be able to shoot 4K at 400 mb/sec. Most cinemas in the world are still only 2K. This camera can also shoot 6K using the full 4x3 sensor and a anomorphic lens.

[@ChrisButel]

+reticulan5 yer for "Netflix originals" they seem to have quite specific camera requirements. But I hear you.

[@DavidKfilmmaker]

where does the gh5 fall short AFTER fw2.0? Camera Requirements 4K Resolution: • Camera must have a true 4K sensor (equal to or greater than 4096 photosites wide). Recording Format: • Minimum of 16-bit Linear or 10-bit Log processing • Bitrate of at least 240 Mbps (at 23.98/24 fps) recording • Recording format must be set to either: RAW (uncompressed or lightly compressed sensor data) Log color space (i.e. S-Log3, V-Log, CanonLog3, REDLogFilm, BMDLog, LogC) • No looks or color corrections should be baked into the original camera files. • Files must maintain all metadata (i.e. Tape Name, Timecode, Frame Rate, ISO, WB, etc.) Aspect Ratio / Framing: • Aspect ratios greater than 2.00:1 must be evaluated and discussed with Netflix for approval. • Framing chart must be shot before principal photography begins, and processed through the dailies pipeline which will be shared with editorial, post-production, and VFX.

[@ChrisButel]

Really interesting point David. I have installed version 2.0 but haven't played around with it too much. What I will say is that the intra codec does seem to play nicer in Premiere. I think for me the biggest flaw with the GH5 after having used it for a few months is the dynamic range. V log is ok but not as good as S log or C log in my humble opinion. The GH5 is a fantastic camera for this price but I will probably end up renting a URSA mini pro or c300 mark ii to shoot my feature project because of the dynamic range and the built in ND's on both those cameras. Thanks for your comment. ✌️

[@DavidKfilmmaker]

Chris Butel we'll need all new cards. V90's

[@JaspreetSinghArtist]

TBH cameras are not problem for feature film because these days cameras can produce good results specially Gh5 is a really great . problem is budget a good 60+ min duration feature film need good budget .

[@ChrisButel]

Yup...

[@Lennard_Smith]

Great video Chris! :) I own the GH5 now and am loving the image quality also. I've been thinking about shooting a feature film in the next 12 months on it - I was wondering what reasons you wouldn't shoot a feature on it? Or why you'd prefer a different camera? Keep up the great work!

[@ChrisButel]

+Lennard Smith thanks mate. 😊 umm to be honest the biggest thing is probably the dynamic range... I've been doing a bunch of tests in v log and grading it... dunno how I feel about it. For the film I think I'll be shooting a lot of natural light without heaps of control so dynamic range is important in that regard. I ended up buying the GH5 and so far I'm really liking it. But for the film I'm considering maybe just hiring a higher end camera like the Fs7, f5, c300 mark ii or even the Alexa mini. The c200 looks really interesting as well. I need to put s budget together first. 😊 Hope this helps.

[@saiprasad8001]

Did you get to make your feature film? What camera and gear did you finally settle on?

[@kevinforget549]

what was with the subway part? the sensors guessing all over the place.

[@garfieldoliveira1458]

Excellent video, thanks, was wondering if these Features can be viewed on a cinema screen? please help

[@gianfrancofoscoli6113]

Carissimo, intanto ti ringrazio e mi complimento per i tuoi video molto esaustivi. Visto che sei un esperto, ti faccio una domanda banale per te ma come avrai compreso non sono esperto e non riesco a trovare la soluzione: quando sei in modalità video AFF come fai per abilitare la ghiera dell’obiettivo al fine di spostare il fuoco da un punto all’altro? Praticamente così come è impostata se giro la ghiera non cambia il fuoco devo per forza andare a cliccare sul touch dello schermo… Invece io vorrei farlo con la ghiera dell’obiettivo, anche perche sul mio Ronin SC combo ho il motorino del focus. Premetto che sul menù ho già attivato AF+MF ma non funziona. cosa altro devo regolare? Grazie per il tuo aiuto

[@paulbvid]

If you added light, then it would be cinematic.

[@CineWorldvfx]

Good Video!

[@bryceleavitt8459]

Hey really appreciate the content on your channel man. Quick question. I’m new to editing (aka my coloring is weak). I have a documentary project soon, that includes lots of interviews. What GH5 picture profile/settings would you suggest??

[@ChrisButel]

Hey mate. Since making this video I've been really happy with the results of shooting on ISO 800 with V Log L and then using Film converts V Log Lut for the GH5. Hope that helps. Cheers.

[@jorgenmalmo]

Thinking of gh5 here for my videos. Is only the focus that make my hasitate

[@ChrisButel]

+Jörgen Nilsson oh you mean the auto focus? I honestly never use AF on any cameras... don't trust it. I did have a play with the a6500 the other day though and was super impressed by that things AF. Let me know what you end up deciding on. 😊

[@alquimistadelaoscuridad]

how you give an upgrade to this video to know if you´re going to shoot that feature with GH5.

[@ChrisButel]

+RVA films hey mate. I'm planning on doing a production vlog of the entire process so we can find out together I guess. 😊

[@YoungBlaze]

did panasonic release that update that pushes the bit rate to 400 mbs per second/? i know it was summer, but the question is, what memory cards could support that sd?

[@ChrisButel]

YoungBlaze Of Chitown I don't think they have but I'm looking forward to it... a lot of people said shooting 10 but is a bit like "sucking the image through a straw"... apparently there can be some artifacting at the lower bit rate. Hopefully the firmware update fixes that. ✌🏻

[@MisterDoge]

More bitrate doesn't mean better codec or more lattitude.

[@djzigoh]

Theres a lot of noise on the train shots. just look at the black areas of the picture. on the first shots when the guy sits on the park there are artifacts on the black portion of the picture (vlog/ Color correction error?). I'm not saying you can t use this camera, as a matter of fact i've shot many music videos on the GH4, what i'm saying is that the key is knowing what to expect and how to post process your footage

[@ChrisButel]

+Westside Films yer I completely agree! ... i think it's a number of things but mostly my error. The stuff on the train was shot at ISO 200 so it's not like the camera can't handle low light situations... The reason it's so noisy is that we were underexposed for V-log... I'd say we were probably underexposed a stop in general... so that's only exacerbated with V log which you need to over expose by 1-1.5 stops. I was actually really disappointed at first and considered not releasing the episode... In terms of the artifacting on Josh's shirt I noticed that as well... I think again this is possibly because that shot was underexposed or because the 150mbs codec isn't enough for the 4K v-log at 10bit. A lot of people have referred to the current codec as "sucking an image through a straw"... Hopefully when Panasonic releases the new firmware update the Vlog artifacting will be gone... I must say it was quite hard to grade. I have a fairly high speced iMac and it was struggling. Probably crashed on me 5 times or so. Workflow is obviously really important when buying a camera so I'm trying to work these kinks out at the moment... Anyways hope you liked the episode. 😊 Thanks for your comment !

[@ChrisButel]

Westside Films and thanks for the feedback. 😊

[@christophershivers6257]

didn't you have the ninja inferno which have the HDR screen, dont that supposed to make exposing for log easier?

[@peterstudiollc]

Any ND filter are you using in your feature film ? Because I will have a low-budget feature film to shoot from my GH5 & GH5S.

[@ChrisButel]

Hey Jingcho you may be able to tell from the footage but we actually didn’t have an nd filter on the day... Depends on your budget but in Syd Hoya nds are usually pretty good. One thing I will say is that the latest firmware that allows you to shoot in higher but rate in 4K is a game changer... you need faster SD cards (300mbs) but the footage is so much better. Grading vlog is much better as well cause I found in this early footage that it was really artifacty. Anyways thanks for the comment. Let me know how the film goes ✌🏻

[@RekzaFS]

A feature film shot entirely on iPhone 5s got into Sundance in 2015. 'nuff said.

[@ChrisButel]

+Mojo Jojo was that Tangerine? I still need to check it out. 😊

[@RekzaFS]

Yeah, that's the film. Need to watch it as well. Just the fact itself is a mind-opener.

[@AlexPower]

What lens did you use for the train episode?

[@ChrisButel]

My Creative Cinema Lumix 12-35. 😊

[@AlexPower]

Probably something faster, like 1.4 + metabones will reduce the noise and definitely over exposing by 1-2 stops helps with Vlog

[@ChrisButel]

+My Creative Cinema completely agree. I think the lens on the train was 35 mm L series. ✌🏻

[@ParksandBricks]

What gimble did you use in the video? I didn't see a link. I would like to get one :)

[@ChrisButel]

Rob Jordan zhiyun crane 2

[@AlexDerrick_DP]

Looks beter than Ursa Mini to me. Go Panasonic. I have to pick one of these up..

[@ChrisButel]

Yer I shot a commercial on the URSA mini. I really liked the image but I couldn't take it above 400 ISO... Just too noisy. I think the GH5 is a little more versatile. I'm really keen to check out the URSA mini pro though... Apparently it's a lot better. Hope you like the channel mate. :)

[@MisterDoge]

You've got to be shitting me.

[@clxvcmlxitm4296]

Did you get enough broll in there??

[@lightningbolt4451]

So can Can you SHOOT a FEATURE FILM on the GH5???

[@carolinas5132]

which gimbal was that? I'm in loveeee

[@ChrisButel]

+Carolina S hey! I think it's called the zihyun crane... or something like that. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1268163-REG/zhiyun_tech_zyc_zhiyun_tech_crane_professional_3_axis.html 😊

[@carolinas5132]

Thank you Chris for the fast response, got yourself a subscriber for that! ;)

[@anilagarwal2114]

Which metabones adaptor did u use for canon ef lenses ??

[@ChrisButel]

+Anil Agarwal 0.71 model. 😊

[@anilagarwal2114]

Thank you Chris.

[@ChrisButel]

+Anil Agarwal 😊

[@ZalecanePl]

What lens did you use in beginning?

[@ChrisButel]

+Zalecane.pl 12-35mm kit lens. It's super sharp...

[@ZalecanePl]

Yea footage looks amazing, but this lens costs more than my G7 haha Do you know which focal length you had in this shot?

[@MisterDoge]

Honestly these shots look like they are from The Room not gonna lie.

[@ChrisButel]

Josh Meade you’re tearing me apart.

[@andrew1925]

The blacks are awfully noisey and I think i know why. If you made a custom curve aka boosting the shadows and lowering the highlights. That really detorirates image quality. I was wondering why this same thing was happening on my g7 almost regretted it till i found out the custom curves killed it. So if that is what you have done turn those off. Camera on natural settings almost all flat is perfect for my g7.

[@ChrisButel]

+And rew yer I completely agree... I think it's also because we were underexposing for v log. I've tested it out more and you have to overexpose by 1.5 stops or so to get a good image. I took the camera out again and kept it at ISO 400 all day shooting in v-log at 1080p with an nd filter. The image looked fantastic. No noise and no artifacting. I think that potentially shooting in 4K the bitrate might be too low for 4K and v log. Panasonic are updating the firmware soon so the camera can shoot at higher bit rates. I guess that's what I meant by "more tests". 😊 Anyways. Thanks for the comment / feedback. Working on some new eps now. ✌🏻

[@andrew1925]

yup good luck guys keep up the informative stuff. i will sub.

[@MisterDoge]

No, they just used the blacks slider in premiere pro which destroys the image.

[@FILMANDGAMES]

yes you can with every camera a film shot

[@MisterDoge]

They say this but not really lol. I've seen films shot on cheap cameras and it ruins the immersive experience. Hell, even in the 1940's the film wasn't very sharp but the image quality was still awesome.

[@PhaseGamer]

lol feature film yet films with 1/1000th shutter speed

[@ChrisButel]

+PhaseGamer hey mate. I think this was the case actually. Good eye 😊. not 1000 but it was quite high. I don't think we had any Nds on the day. I promise to get it right on the feature. 😂

[@MisterDoge]

These guys are clueless idiots. You might be able to shoot a feature on this camera but not like these guys.

[@JomToons]

PhaseGamer I caught this as well..

[@rgesualdo]

totally 28 DAYS LATER was shot on a dv camera ;)

[@matrodmedia]

Hahah welcome to youtube man. The comment section is a beast of a butthole that will swallow all of your footage whole, and spit out every single possible negative aspect of it, in the form of text in a KZbin comment. This video was great. Organized very well and presented very well. You're a great presenter. Sure, I could critique the technical aspects of the footage you filmed, but that's not the point. I really enjoyed this video and how you separated the narrated bits from the filmed bits with the white letterbox. No shit guys, he's not going to submit a feature with a white letterbox layered on top of the footage. Sometimes the assumptions of internet people blow my mind.

[@ChrisButel]

+matrod haha thanks bro. Yer the reason I put the white bars on the footage is to match the style of the other vids which are more photography based. It makes a lot more sense in the context of those eps. I've been shooting a bit with the GH5 in Vlog lately and as long as you leave it at 400 or 800 ISO and overexpose 1-1.5 stops you can get some really good results. I also feel like one of the issues with this Ep is there's a bit of artefacting at 4K 10 bit but there should be a new firmware update coming soon which fixes that. Anyways. Thanks for the positive comment bro. Working on some new eps now. ✌🏻

[@matrodmedia]

I just watched a test the other day with some V-Log footy. I think what you gotta do is just expose for whatever is most important for the scene. If there's people in the scene, skin tones are priority. If there is not people in the scenes and its just outside or whatever, then obviously highlights in-general will be the priority. If there's lots of dark places in the scene, and no specific highlights to protect, then you'll probably over expose a couple stops or so to save the shadows. There's no right or wrong way to expose, but the internet likes to think there is :) Younger kids are so extremely obsessed with perfection, and getting the "best" camera they can for the money, that they lose sight of the important bits, like the story, lighting, etc. There's quite literally no reason actually why GH5 footage wouldn't be accepted by Netflix, or wherever, now that I think about it. Yes, there are "network standards" but those are typically more to do with timing (length of transitions for commercials, things like that, etc.). For something like Netflix, literally the STORY, and 1080p (with a couple other bitrate specifications I'm sure) is really all you need. And the GH5 is more than capable of that. So yeah man best of luck on the feature! Upload your journeys along the way!!

[@tbueno94]

External monitor brand?

[@ChrisButel]

+Tony Bueno Atomos Nina inferno. 😊

[@brentonbish]

What brand of gimbal?

[@ChrisButel]

+brentonbish umm that's a Nick question... 😊

[@ezbzpop]

yes you can

[@ChrisButel]

Ezbz Pop spoilers

[@bhumazi]

what s with the noise? :x

[@ChrisButel]

+superdavidcosma underexposed v-log. 😑😑😑

[@bhumazi]

Oh my bad =))))) btw I cant really choose between A7r mk2 or GH5, I dont wanna make a mistake can u please help?

[@ChrisButel]

+superdavidcosma haha I had the same dilemma... I ended up buying the GH5. Bit rate/ ibis / flippy screen / price / better battery life is what convinced me.

[@ChrisButel]

+superdavidcosma unless you already have Sony glass...

[@bhumazi]

U said that u will not be shooting your feature film on it, what camera did u choose?

[@MisterDoge]

No, not really. Lmao. For the price point just get a used red one mx.

[@SakkiDuran]

Good job man. Just a one thing maybe I'm wrong but I feel like at 3:04 audio is no sync.

[@ChrisButel]

You're probs right but I don't have the heart to go back and watch this haha.

[@SakkiDuran]

@@ChrisButel haha

[@waltersolon7015]

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