CAN YOU TURN PRO NATTY? | Robert Waterhouse | Real Bodybuilding Podcast Ep.65

[@Redemption203]

Fouad you should get more guys like this that have just turned pro or are top amateurs..its fascinating to see things from the other side lol

[@AnthonyVenmans]

Totally agree, that would be amazing!

[@tony_fanta]

it would be interesting

[@nattymuscleradio64]

For more Bob Waterhouse check out our KZbin!

[@AnthonyVenmans]

@@nattymuscleradio64 Thank you, gonna check it all out!!

[@Brant_Dunn]

agreed!!

[@lastsonofkrypton3918]

Fouad "I'm not natural" Abiad

[@davidkaye4590]

Good job guys and thanks for the shout out. Appreciated. Very enjoyable watch and great respect shown for all us athletes who dedicate our lives to this thing!

[@dietgainz7951]

This show is getting fcking ridiculous.The quality of the questions,the guests Fouad invite,the lenght of the show,everything is just 100%.i watch a lot of bbuilding stuff but this podcast is by far the very best.Thank you Fouad!!

[@FouadAbiad]

🙏🏽

[@sweldup]

“You haven’t made it until you’ve reached fake natty status!” 😂 That is so true! I almost wanted people to think I was enhanced - it meant they felt that they couldn’t reach my level naturally.

[@michy3075]

My coach says the same thing. He tells me I want them to say “there’s no way she’s natural.”

[@robertprince2651]

@@michy3075 Preach.

[@cityslickeroutdoors8306]

A reverse fake natty

[@doubleophysiquecreation1525]

What a great idea for an interview Fouad! I hope it makes people see that even if you are natural, you still can get shredded but it just takes longer! Loved that line your guest said "you're not a good natural bodybuilder if no one accuses you of taking PEDs" 😂😂🤣 As someone who has been training for almost 20 years naturally, like your guest, I can relate!!

[@robertprince2651]

True!

[@2scoops70]

Wow well done Rob 👏 you know you've made it when Fouad invited you on. Well done on your new pro status 😎👍🏋️‍♂️

[@danielsmith7324]

This was my favorite guest on any bb podcast so far. I’d never heard of this guy but he’s definitely gained a fan. Went to his Instagram and I was blown away. I’m another guy (not natural though) who likes to relax and just enjoy growing. Phil Hernon said a long time ago to just get the muscle and lose the fat later. Too many guys afraid of getting chubby and eating. You can’t carve a pebble

[@nattymuscleradio64]

Awesome, plenty more of Bob here!

[@isonnonong9094]

you cant carve a pebble- wisdom

[@scammellman]

As a drug free bodybuilder from the UK I have followed Bob's career and he has an incredible physique with great balance and condition. Keep up the great work Fouad.

[@benpowers5942]

Best thing about your podcast is you truly just try to provide us the best, most well rounded information possible. No stone unturned. We appreciate it Hoss

[@FouadAbiad]

🙏🏽

[@gerardocastillo4060]

I think we should just call him natural fouad lol. Quality material like always

[@robertwaterhouse1986]

Gerardo Castillo That’s creased me 😂lmao

[@PoleDancerize]

What a great podcast I follow both you guys. I’m from the UK and have competed with Rob in BNBF and DFAC and I can tell you he looks even better in the flesh. Well done Rob 🇬🇧

[@gregorynelson6230]

This guy is awesome, great guest. No disrespect, can definitely tell he's honestly natural. I'm glad I waited until I was 35. Natural and enhanced (even if it's just a little test) Bodybuilding are completely different worlds. But I truly believe just about anyone can attain a respectable physique with just a few years (less if you're lucky) with some attention placed on diet and training CONSISTENTLY. Not do everything right for six months, then party and not train and blame your genetics...

[@nattymuscleradio64]

Very true! It really does just take time and enhanced lifters have even been preaching this for some time now.

[@caleba.pike-juststopit2077]

I already listened to this while walking but now found it here. Fouad, Thank you and this was excellent. I love the amount of respect you two gave each other. The learning and understanding displayed here doesn't happen often. ALWAYS waiting for the next episode. Thanks again.

[@bennie5563]

Is so cool seeing both sides of the coin and how compromised are they with the discipline, tons of respect for these guys !!

[@salmana4504]

This guy looks awesome ripped awesome it's nice to see something different for a change Sal Magnum

[@gregtrombly5812]

I’m a natty pro and I only go up 25 pounds because I have tried to go as hight as 50 pounds over stage weight and only could put on 1-2 pounds of Real muscle when I died down so really I couldn’t put on any more muscle whether I only put on 25 pounds or 50 off season most of us can only put on 1-2 pounds of real muscle.. of course different for a newbie ...

[@steviewang4102]

An experienced natty lifter cannot in any way put on more than 10lb of lean mass per year (even 5lb is pushing it) unless they've been completely training and dieting wrong for years on end (which would not make them "experienced"). Natty guys simply can't jump weight class divisions like pros do in less than 3 years (Men's physique to classic to 212 to open). If you want to move up a division as a natty that's going to take 10+ years of hard training and dieting.

[@user-oo3jq8mw8y]

You must suck then.

[@saymehname5227]

Okay wtf, you gained 25 pounds and got a pound of muscle? And you're a natrual pro. More like natrual troll. Ain't no way you gainin' 25 pounds period as a natrual. Your gainin' way 2 quick. And if u actually did u would gain way more since it takes forever for a natrual to gain in the first place. If u gain 2 fast u will get fat and only fat. if u gain 25 pounds slowly in a year or more if not a genetic freak 2 years you will keep more like 15 pounds. But again 2 years. 1 pound of muscle while gaining 25 pounds rofl the fucking trolls man.

[@saymehname5227]

@youtubetroll Okay youtubetroll. I never said anything about competing. I said him gaining 25 pounds and putting on a pound of muscle only or even going 50 pounds. I went to his channel. The guy doesn't even looks like he lifts rather than Rob. Here's the thing a natrual that gains the weight correctly will keep it and even return to that weight for whatever reason happens. A junkie will not that's why you hear the term "off cycle". So if he gained 25 pounds as slowly as possible in 2 years he would get way more than a pound of muscle. Even junkies can't gain the muscle that fast they still need to lose 50 pounds or so. Perfect example is Lee Priest. He has to diet 80 pounds. Come at me and get your embarrassing ass out of here.

[@AzriZakariya]

Quality guest as ususal. Good work Fouad

[@devinwelchfit]

Definitely get him back on after his show very entertaining

[@scottmcdonald6201]

Yeah I thought that guy was pretty awesome

[@mhady88]

and big congrats on hitting 200k subs , this channel deserve a million more , cheers brother

[@FouadAbiad]

Not there yet 😉

[@mhady88]

@@FouadAbiad 200k , YEAH BUDDY :D

[@markmorse7916]

This was so interesting! It really hits home how the foundation of bodybuilding is the same across the board. If the nutrition and training are not there and does not matter if you are enhanced or natural your physique will not be there! Thank you for the great content!

[@CommonSenseBodybuilding]

Man this guy is great, follow 2brospro as ill be in classic there next year and he clearly chooses to be natural because of personal choices, not a superiority complex. Major respect.

[@thetortoise6099]

Fantastic interview , the more I watch the more I enjoy this channel , solid gold.

[@brechtdhoe5874]

hell yeahhh Fouad, sick episode my man

[@maxk880]

Really good upload

[@monkeyman82776]

this guy was my personal trainer 15 years ago in my local gym. well done rob on your success

[@nattymuscleradio64]

Fouad your channel has the best bodybuilding content on KZbin period. Keep up the awesome work man, and props for helping close the natty vs enhanced divide. At the end of the day, we are all just bodybuilders!

[@FouadAbiad]

Thank you!

[@mariodelorenzo9092]

This was a great episode. Suggest getting John Meadows on with Robert again to discuss Natty and Enhanced seeing as John coaches both.

[@nattymuscleradio64]

That would be awesome!

[@aeronnbevan7018]

Excited for this Episode guys! Awesome guest!

[@Fotitude]

Another great podcast. It’s a middle finger up to those who say that great physiques can only be achieved by gear.. it’s all about consistent hard work and focus no matter if you take gear or not

[@robertdelgado9329]

I think people’s problem is they only get to see pictures. I feel there’s a huge difference in density between natty and not. (With a Few other factors) And pictures don’t allow you to see it for yourself. Hence people saying he’s not natty. Great physique man. Seems like a good dude.

[@nattymuscleradio64]

Bob is the greatest, and you can see a lot more of him on our KZbin!

[@FFlores-fr2ew]

Great guests and amazing interviewing, keep them coming!

[@luisacarneiro9367]

I truly enjoyed this one. I admire both - enhanced and natural bodybuilders. The hard work has to be put in no matter what.

[@mhady88]

love this podcast , it is nice to see some spotlight on natty bodybuilders as well , i love the diversity of the podcasts lately , thanks a lot for your great content during your prep

[@FouadAbiad]

Thanks for watching!

[@persianatural]

Thanks fouad , as a natural bodybuilder this is very helpful to me.

[@VictorGonzalez-gk1nr]

What a great and informative podcast that was! I'll definitely be rewatching it over the weekend. If you are to do any more podcasts along these lines, could I suggest you get to talk to the 3DMJ guys? Jeff Alberts is prepping to go on stage age 50 and natural and has been training/competing for 35 years. Eric Helms is also an inmense source of knowledge. Just a suggestion. Thanks again, in any case, for shedding some much needed light over the natty/enhanced debate.

[@nattymuscleradio64]

Awesome that you enjoyed listening to Bob and Fouad break the natty vs Enhanced debate man! Check out a little more of Bob here!

[@AnthonyVenmans]

Wow, just wow! I enjoyed every single second! Thanks Fouad & Robert!

[@CVisions]

Lol I woke up early to get cardio out of the way and now I wish I didn’t lol

[@davidpenn1123]

Those transformation photos at 17:45 are an incredible argument for High Carb Moderate Protein over High Protein Low Carb.

[@115zombiees]

First thing I thought after reading the title was "hmmm good question"

[@jamesnorton9596]

Love it! Bridge the gap!

[@zainrahman5164]

Excellent work yet again, Hoss!

[@christopherbarakat]

Awesome episode gentlemen! Congrats Rob on the Classic Pro Card!

[@moshpitjunkie8122]

guy did a great job. props to him on what he obtained naturally

[@ThePowerofJames]

Robert is amazing to listen to, keep it up Fouad! Shout out to Robert for wanting to work with you to open some eyes!!

[@FouadAbiad]

Lol I messaged him.

[@robertwaterhouse1986]

James Power thanks James

[@christianlawu1793]

💪Thanks Fouad!

[@jessie-maybelle]

Everything you put out is pure quality Fouad, really enjoyed this.

[@christopher-ace-azevedo5509]

Awesome podcast!, great information on both sides!, guy is shredded! More people should be watching this. Great content!

[@Drumz_of_Liberation]

In the spirit of bridging the gap between natural and enhanced, you should have someone from team 3DMJ on your pod. First time listener, new subscriber. Keep up the great content!

[@barrykitchen8200]

Much respect to him and all the other natural guys. I don't know what it's like to get shredded like that even as enhanced I might get down to 10% sometimes messing around but I don't compete or nothing. And it's just a struggle to maintain 10 to 12% for me even one year because my genetics are of a fat person. My whole family have a little overweight. So much respect dude for real. Also fuad looking lean brother I see that crease in your cheek on the side of your nose some people call the smile wrinkle but it's more defined right now. Just goes to show that you're getting good condition. Best of luck to both of you guys

[@chrisseagler1570]

I'm all for the nattys. However they have to have the best genetics just like the open class do.

[@lastsonofkrypton3918]

I'm all for the natty's too. It's unbelievable how they can build these amazing physiques on just 250mg TRT a week! 😂😂

[@chrisseagler1570]

@@lastsonofkrypton3918 lol

[@nattymuscleradio64]

@@lastsonofkrypton3918 TRT is banned I am afraid and is caught by the stringent drug testing in the BNBF and DFAC!

[@WaynesTW]

@@lastsonofkrypton3918 wait I thought 500 mgs is trt + 2 ius of GH

[@backwardsyoga]

@@WaynesTW yeah that's still natty

[@thegamechanger3317]

Thank you fouad for this great podcast. In competition it's the same difficulty for the competitors if you're on natty stage you have the same tools like every other competitor on the stage and like wise for enhanced stage. It all depends on accuracy of your work, effort, knowledge, experience, knowing your body and genetics. All the hate towards enhanced bbuilder is coming from guys who just want to post their physique pictures on Facebook or Instagram. They just want that body and don't pay the price of being enhanced and don't put the effort. To me it's ridiculous those guys most sought-after dream of their life is to post a good picture of their body on social media, It's like who cares. For people like you it's a career it's not just about how you look on the social media.

[@LAskeHosting]

People don't know how much it actually takes to get that lean... Like they are= i wonna be shredded ill go on a 16 weeks cut and when they finish they start bitching about people like him because what they don't want to admit that there is like 10 more weeks till they hit the point where they want to be and that it's harder than they thought its gonna be

[@nattymuscleradio64]

So true. Its the last stage that separates those who have what it takes and those that do not.

[@user-oo3jq8mw8y]

Took me 20 weeks all worth it because natruals will always look more crisper in the skin tone and never bloated since we aren't injecting shit into our bodies. None taken to that do. But it's a fact.

[@nattymuscleradio64]

@@user-oo3jq8mw8y As Bob and Fouad pointed out, there are some subtle differences and exogenous aids being in place can have both desirable and non-desirable effects. Both sides have pros and cons and ultimately both are just bodybuilders at the end of the day!

[@migueldescoto6876]

Fouad, continues to educate! This just made me hit the subscribe but and notification bell. Very cool information, thanks!!

[@FouadAbiad]

👊🏽

[@mithunkartha]

Great info even for those who do not want to turn pro. Thanks Fouad.

[@gavinclark9130]

Cool interview Hoss! It's interesting to hear that natty guys have pretty much the same programs as enhanced. He proves a lot of your theories were correct.

[@nattymuscleradio64]

Bob is just a bodybuilder who loves to live the life!

[@sovereignbeef]

I’m nominating Fouad for the Nobel Prize in Bodybuilding.

[@FouadAbiad]

LOL

[@mrbobjrsrv]

Solid podcast! Loved to see those questions get answered. Will definitely be coming back to this video when people start up the natty or not debate.

[@nattymuscleradio64]

Check out some more of Bob here too!

[@ericman3234]

Fouad. Man. Seriously all the questions i had about natty bodybuilding you asked. Seriously thank you soo much. Also keep it up with the prep. You're a fucking beast

[@konchittavong697]

Awesome video, Fouad! This is very inspirational and educational for us "average" natty bodybuilders. I am also a fan of bodybuilding and guys like Bob Waterhouse shows us what's possible.

[@nattymuscleradio64]

Hey man check out more of Bobs content here!

[@TheBamm73]

Very real interview! I loved it Fouad, keep up the great podcast!

[@B3nkeii]

He's seems very honest and charismatic. He doesnt give fake cringy bullshit answers like some 'natty's' do. The guy just smiles and tells it how it is, very cool.

[@B3nkeii]

Heyy, Fouad everytime you like my comment i get a little rush of dopamine, thanks! ill be back!

[@trevorsova5600]

This is great information especially for when trying to explain concepts to natural people that don’t believe you just because you’re enhanced!

[@lukebowen2818]

This is definitely my favorite episode of late haha Rob is a very impressive competitor and it was really cool to see the parallels between natural and enhanced.

[@jamescullen677]

Great subject for a video. Really interesting to me being a natural myself.

[@dannysuh6105]

Good to see Fouad vibing with a fellow foodie

[@nattymuscleradio64]

Wait to until you hear Bob's Five Guys story!

[@KtodaZ]

Very cool guy!! Thanks for this Fouad especially as I'm doing it the same way as he is doing

[@TheScatman89]

I respect everyone.. Natty or not. But just dont pretend you are natural when you are not. I think that's where the "hate" is coming from. People who pretend to be something they are not. It's disengenious. Loved this podcast, very interresting to see a real natural body builders perspective on diet and training. Would be cool to have him on again.

[@CameraSGH]

From several conversations with people, I think part of the reason there is animosity towards users of gear is that in my country if you visit a typical commercial gym you’ll find people on the juice who don’t train hard, frequent KFC/McDonalds and come across as uncultivated e.g. shouting across the gym or unnecessarily throwing weights. These guys don’t have pro physiques but obviously hold much more muscle than the average guy so people frown upon such individuals as they don’t have the work ethic etc. but through drugs create an intimidating personality. By contrast, I also know people who are disciplined and civilised - working in a corporate role - who are thoroughly respected despite clearly being on gear. So from experience, part of the reason seems to be the persona/image gear users have created for themselves which explains the negative stereotype associated with juice or meatheads.

[@nattymuscleradio64]

Great summary Karl. It is not a issue with enhanced or natural bodybuilders but rather individual's regardless of there supplement preference.

[@jcpaul6824]

What a refreshing video about the so called differences between enhanced and natural bodybuilding. So what I've summarized about the content "work your ass off period" drugs or not facts are you can still have a amazing physique worthy of being enumerated for it's appearance.

[@nattymuscleradio64]

Exactly!

[@ultrafloss492]

Such a fantastic addition to the RPB list and the physique he presents is amazing. I'm looking forward to the next show or even as a bb&b guesthost perhaps, Fouad 😇, lol. Thanks very much to you both!

[@nattymuscleradio64]

Check out a little more of Bob here!

[@ultrafloss492]

@@nattymuscleradio64 Thanks!

[@andrewbyron8129]

Yet another real life podcast brilliant lads 👌

[@rbufacchi]

That was awesome!! Thanks for this enlightening video for us true nats!

[@kevindadswell603]

Its interesting how Robert went from a straight heavy-duty approach to a slightly higher volume program. I have found that it is extremely difficult to actually achieve complete failure (and even beyond failure on some sets) and I've found a lot of benefit in doing "back-off sets"

[@nattymuscleradio64]

Yep it is good method for sure!

[@Brandon1213]

thank you for this! very fascinating conversation very clean with the X's and O's all the details and smooth smart talk

[@alexgawthrop1748]

Love there's an English guy involved 👌🏼I'm from England. Always seems Americans dominate bodybuilding and the whole business around it

[@pevolution1869]

Great guy, trains in my gym. Always open to a chat. Very inspirational.

[@grubbyeso3224]

Two things I like on KZbin … fouad pod cast and John meadows Q&A videos

[@Simps14]

My mate competed against rob a few years ago in Yorkshire robs physique is top notch really old school look

[@bartowsanta6313]

Great interview. You know why natural bodybuilders are the easiest people to buy clothes for? If you buy something too big they are flattered and if you buy something too small they wear it.

[@Jimrock95]

Haha, that's a good one. Especially coming from Santa himself

[@EdLavarreda]

He s a bad ass for being natural respect brother

[@rolandoxiv6934]

hey this was actually very cool thaks fouad

[@kamikaze885]

Awesome episode, Fouad. Really enjoyed this one, great to see other perspectives within the sport.

[@stino3319]

A bodybuilding podcast wouldn't work they said #letsgo Fouad it's working

[@michaelwatkins5404]

Great content! This was really informative. Hard not to respect both ways of being a bodybuilder. Either discipline requires a very special person to be at the top of their game. Thanks for helping bridge the gap in understanding!

[@ElliotDuke]

Thoroughly enjoyed this podcast!!

[@jeremyparrott3713]

Really interesting podcast. Amazing to see what can be achieved natural. Gives me that glimmer of hope to reach the physique I want. Thanks Hoss

[@nattymuscleradio64]

Awesome to hear you get inspired man!

[@jinskiis123]

Oh man what a hilarious interview xD keep up the awesome work mate

[@Oldtimenattylife]

Really appreciate you two guys putting this out here for us, as a guy who is currently documenting my natural journey for a full year in my channel this sort of thing hopefully helps all the stigma between natural not naturals I don’t get it personally if your a bodybuilding fan then it’s all the same to me

[@eon57]

As a natural trainer myself I found this really interesting stuff. 👍

[@nattymuscleradio64]

Hey man, check out some more of Bobs content on our channel!

[@Brant_Dunn]

I enjoyed listening to this guy

[@ampedupfitness2520]

Good content man

[@logancd1636]

It would be awesome to see Hosstile sponsor bob!

[@wendelldavids1405]

Wow. Great Podcast.

[@robertprince2651]

This is a video I've been waiting on for years! Fouad, have you considered having Doug Miller or Donovan Strong on the 'Cast? They're both phenomenal nattys.

[@zilvinascepokas6368]

As a natural really enjoyed this 👌

[@marcoechavarria7274]

solid. As a natural, it’s good seeing the “pro” side of it, great info as always

[@nukigumgum]

Damn this was a great Podcast. You should get Robert on with Ben and James. Theres no reason that bodybulding conversations should be split between natty or enhanced, as it really is just a personal choice and in actuality, the differences are only in what the enhancements enhance, everything else is the same.

[@FouadAbiad]

This is RBP it’s not split.

[@nukigumgum]

Upon reading my comment again i can understand how you interpreted it, but this was not my intention. What I meant was just that it would be cool to have him on BB&B in a more casual setting, and that I feel the bodybuilding community should include all voices who are interesting and worth listening to, whether natty or not.

[@gerryiannuzzi5122]

Thanks for this episode. I agree with what you said. I’m natural but respect all bodybuilding. Just stay out of natural bodybuilding shows if you’re enhanced. Also, I would have enjoyed hearing his last few days before the show diet wise and water.

[@gerryiannuzzi5122]

I could never do it like this guy. I stay within 5 pounds of contest condition year round. But I’m 20 years older so I don’t think I could gain and lose like that.

[@glynmoody1]

Great podcast big congratulations bob. Love your trying to bring the natty closer to the enhanced

[@kevinwarski4534]

Great video as usual fouad