Canada: Applications for English-speaking universities fall as Quebec raises tuition fees

In Quebec, a reform by the provincial government has sparked anger from its two most prestigious Anglophone universities, McGill and Concordia. Undergraduate tuition fees will increase by more than 30 percent for Canadians from other provinces, while a new tax will be levied on these institutions for each international student. The measure is intended to better fund Francophone institutions but also aims for a "linguistic rebalancing," according to Quebec's government. McGill and Concordia universities, whose reputation attracts students from all over the world, are seeing a drop in enrolment applications from Canadian students outside Quebec, as well as from international students. Under a bilateral agreement, Belgian and French students are spared from the reform. Our correspondents report.
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[@kwatai9298]

this will not increase the French language studying even if is free to study

[@sexygeek8996]

Quebec is obsessed with trying to preserve a dying language.

[@user-iw4jl6bc8h]

anglophones are racists and xenophobes

[@averyhazen8466]

The irony is that students from France don’t pay the international rate 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@kalafinwe5498]

Because they want to pump them into Quebec lol University in France is free, so students that come in here don't pay the tuition from Quebec, but the one from France. That is if they are affiliated to a French university. If they come to Quebec and enroll ONLY in a Quebec university, then yes they have to pay the international rate.

[@DonaldMains]

Didn't know that. That seems just a little discriminatory. Buy hey, it's Quebec, nobody rights are safe if it's in the name of the preservation of the French language.

[@12bananaboy]

That's not true, they pay the same rate as Quebecers since the governements have an agreement, same with Belgium. Stop playing the victim..@@DonaldMains

[@ardae1308]

@@kalafinwe5498 Actually french and francophone belgians don’t pay international fees even if they are international students (not exchange) due to treaties between the governments!

[@AllMightyLee]

There's no irony at all. There are reciprocity agreements between France and Quebec for decades. If Quebec residents want to study in France, they get the French rate. Similar to French students paying the Quebec rate here.

[@TT-fq7pl]

How are they going to keep the Internet out of Quebec to protect the French language?

[@amourif]

No they'll actually ban the french word "Anglais" because it means "English" and ObViOuSlY qUeBeC hAs ThE rEsPoNsIbIlItY oF PrOtEcTiNg ThE fReNcH lAnGuAgE.

[@justsayin2023]

For Canadians: All you have to do is get a Quebec address, apply for a health card in Quebec and then you're a resident. No increased tuition! Takes like 3 months.

[@milibibi2152]

When you apply you are already student in another province. You can not be student in Ottawa and Resident in QC at the same time

[@adlerzwei]

Also learn French.

[@petitben5240]

​@@adlerzweiplus all the above. We are just tired of paying higher taxes for the education of non residents Quebecois. When my dad was in the air force, l went to the university in Sudbury before moving to Paris. Education is very expensive outside Quebec. So, yes we are just increasing little bit, still studying in Concordia, McGill, or Bishop is way less expensive than ubc, Manitoba U, or university of Regina. It's a matter of fairness. C'est aussi simple que ça.

[@Leah-br6xu]

@@milibibi2152I forgot about that actually. lol isn’t loans 50/50 anyway? I don’t see it as being any higher risk due to students covering tuition with a mix of fed prov grants and loans, and $. They should adapt the rules to make the system smoother. I see no problem with concentrating on French in QC.

[@louisecote3542]

nice corruption

[@GLayton123]

(1:18) Why not instead turn the French test into an entrance exam? Take advantage of immersion schools we have in the rest of the country. If you pass you get the lower rate.

[@wizzard9531]

Because most of these applicants don’t speak French..?

[@category7273]

They did that for English and the Fake students from India are paying and cheating to make sure the test show pass. Plus they all enrol in some stupid college.(sometimes Fake)fabricated 12 months programs. Now local kids get refused from our Colleges to let the scammers in (they are bringing more money in tuitions). Conestoga college made 40 millions dollars in profits in the last 14 months and the graduation rate is %3.2, so all of these "international students" are in fact just getting in the country from the back door they are not coming here to study. So international students my a$$. Quebec does not want that to happened so they have raised the tuition fees and good for them

[@GLayton123]

@@wizzard9531 phase it in as a option for regular tuition. Study in French class.

[@alexandrav11]

​@@wizzard9531 They plan to study in Quebec, I think they should :)

[@wizzard9531]

​@@alexandrav11 I'm from Quebec, I wasn't agreeing nor disagreeing with the requirements (although I am against the tuition hike) just explaining that an entrance exam wouldn't be a feasible solution because very few of these applicants already speak French.

[@GLayton123]

(4:29) but the Franco Ontarians are French speaking and they get the higher rate too.

[@FordFlatSix]

Canadians: We can’t afford university now! Americans: Welcome to the club. Get ready for student debt.

[@Havoc-bc6oy]

Enrollment is dropping so they increase tuition?

[@ScentlessSun]

I wish I knew French. I live in Louisiana. We let it fade from our culture. Some speak French in the south but most do not. It is a big part of our history we have lost. Do not lose your history Quebec. It is great to know English, but know French also. Don’t be like me 😂

[@savoirancien4093]

Not only they want to destroy our Culture in the meantime they want us to pay for the education in English of all Anglo-Canadian across Canada while we speak French. This is akin to the British in Ireland.

[@alansmithee8831]

@ScentlessSun. I stayed in Texas with a family who had ancestors there before the English speakers. I speak decent French for an English bloke, learning at school. I can understand some Spanish from it being in songs and US films, as it is similar to French in parts. The father of the family admitted he was a bit ashamed that an English visitor spoke more Spanish than his kids and determined he would insist they learned it.

[@michaelrmurphy2734]

Like Canada, America de facto is a bilingual country. English and French in Canada, English and Spanish in America.

[@Cris-ky1mq]

J' avais un ami Français étudiant en littérature, il n' a pas été admis pour étudier au Québec, maintenant il vit aux États-Unis.

[@pandaDotDragon]

En meme temps parler français ne donne pas automatiquement une place à l'université au Québec...

[@bloomingorchid9407]

All my life, I just learned English beside 2 languages which are my native languages..French is out of Syllabus for me..

[@thewewguy8t88]

All I learned was English sure school tried to teach me french but the school I went too kind of assumed you spoke french at home mostly which was not the case with me.

[@thewewguy8t88]

This is why I hate living here a lot of times. Like I wish I could move out but moving out was never an option and I really struggled more then the average kid in learning French in Quebec and I still have that struggle and as an adult. And again I wish I could leave but I really can't I am stuck here :(

[@benwang9745]

Why are you stuck, you cannot move out of Quebec to another providence? Do you need me to sent a mounty to rescue you? 😂

[@agustinbenaventec4038]

If you don't speak french and live in Quebec I suppose you are from the anglo part of Montreal. You want to learn french? Go any other city or town in the province that doesn't have a large anglo community and only speak in french no matter how basic it is. It's called inmersion and I'm sure the provincial goverment has a lot of programs you can apply to, or the french alianse

[@josephsmith594]

Just slip out the back, Jack. Make a new plan Stan.

[@samgyeopsal569]

Skill issue

[@mattbosley3531]

I am from the U.S. and I had no difficulty learning French in school. We started taking languages in 8th grade and I chose French because it seemed the most useful since I lived in Detroit, right across the river from Canada. I took French all the way through high school and even traveled to France with the French Club in my junior year. Been there multiple times since.

[@GrosPointRouge]

Those anglophone universities can afford to charge such small fees compared to the rest of Canada because the Québécois are heavily taxed to subsidize education. In the meantime, those schools don’t really benefit the province since most of their students end up working elsewhere and cannot even stay and work in Quebec since they don’t speak French. In that regard, the increase in fees and language requirements seem very reasonable to me.

[@rcbrascan]

It is forced learning a language and it has nothing to do with the degree the students earn.

[@slyparis2447]

@@rcbrascan do you want to debate on the forcing of learning english globaly ? you hate it when people have a conscience and want to resist you.

[@Brossardoise73]

Nobody moves out of province and country for substandard education. So you bleed the prestige of excellence from McGill! How typical, of Quebec nationalism. French high schools have the higher drops vs. English high school. It's not the language that is the problem.

[@gachalife-gk4qz]

Canada is a bilingual country but it seems that Quebec is being prejudiced against English speakers.

[@EA-ck4so]

​@@gachalife-gk4qzQuebequers are pretty much bilingual. Can't say the same for Ontarians. Lived in both provinces. Met many people in Montreal who worked there while they spoke only English. Never met a francophone who could find a job in Toronto without speaking any English.

[@user-fq7vs8dl5k]

Go to trade school. I learned the hvac trade back in 1999. I make $30 an hour. Never had any loans or tuition fees.

[@ravneetkamboj1971]

Do you know any trade school

[@user-fq7vs8dl5k]

@@ravneetkamboj1971 my county votech center has a trade school classes for HVAC electrical plumbing and cooking.

[@savoirancien4093]

Where is the French University with cheap fees for French Quebecers in Ontario paid by Ontario Taxpayers. There is no reciprocity in English Canada. we got to stop the gravy train! I dont mine english by its time you pay for your stuff.

[@sammexp]

McGill, lol pour former la future élite anglophone qui règnera sur le Québec. C’est le passé ça. Aujourd’hui c’est en français et les étudiants de McGill quittent alors cet université est inutile au Québec

[@DonaldMains]

Oh don't worry there will be reciprocity soon. Other Canadian provinces will start to charge additional fees to Quebecois. As Neil Peart said "And the trees are all kept equal By hatchet, axe, and saw"

[@DonaldMains]

Oh don't worry there will be reciprocity soon. Other Canadian provinces will start to charge additional fees to Quebecois. As Neil Peart said "And the trees are all kept equal By hatchet, axe, and saw"

[@alexitanguay]

It's the University of Ottawa, the largest bilingual university in the world.

[@savoirancien4093]

@@DonaldMains Other Canadian provinces ALREADY charges like 6 TIMES the fees for Quebeckers. We only increases the fees by 25% we should triple it. Why does Quebecers have to pay for the education of English speakers from out of province. Honestly! Long time overdue.

[@AllMightyLee]

Quebec education is highly subsidized by Quebec workers' tax money. So why should out-of-province, and out-of-country students pay the same rates as those who are paying taxes (and a lot of them)? And what about learning the province's only official language, French?

[@matthewwatt54]

Silly comment

[@Vexwisval28]

International students pay more overall in all universities throughout Canada. Also there’s a shift in more people speaking English in Quebec, specifically Montreal. People decide policy, when officials don’t, there’s a backlash

[@floxy20]

Doesn't that apply to all students studying in every out of province or every out of state situation? Calling French the only official language in no way increases its utility.

[@XandateOfHeaven]

So you don't seem to understand. Out of province individuals already pay higher prices, and this is something everyone has agreed to. No one has an issue with this. The problem is that English language universities are being targeted by arbitrary rule changes to penalize them for being English language universities that unfairly disadvantages them compared to their French language counterparts. This is an issue for several reasons. Firstly, many French Canadians wish to have their higher education in English because it gives them more opportunities, and their education is subsidized by out of province tuition. Secondly, English Quebecers have the right to pursue education in English, just as Francophones in the rest of the country have the right to education in French. Third, McGill is a world class university that attracts international talent, but will not do so if the institution is sabotaged. This policy change will only harm Quebec, and will not improve French language fluency among Anglophones. McGill is being targeted because it is a much hated symbol of the old anglophone elite among Quebec nationalists.

[@savoirancien4093]

@@XandateOfHeaven To be fair, since there is no French University in the ROC, Mcgill should be closed. This would end the exploitation of Quebec people. Are you from Montreal?

[@user-cc5od3zk4p]

There are other schools. And no, French is barely heard in western Canada.

[@bossainkilla]

Un déclin d’étudiant et en augmente le prix. Je ne comprend pas??

[@Celestialkarma]

It is a good move There are only benefits in learning other languages eg French So students should willingly embrace and enjoy learning as it will pay off in the long run

[@XandateOfHeaven]

You don't seem to understand. This adds no incentive to learn French that wasn't already there, and will only hurt the province. This is a tool to destroy the Anglophone universities, nothing more. Out of province students already had to learn French if they wanted to work in Quebec, but most don't. This meant that they could subsidize the English universities for Quebec students and then leave, or they would learn enough French from living in Montreal and stay. Now what will happen is no out of province students will go to university at McGill because the tuition is too high, and the institution will die from lack of funding. This is the purpose of the law. The out of province Anglophones will be fine. They'll go to English universities in Ontario. Who this harms is Quebecers who wanted to have a university education in English, because their universities will no longer be subsidized by out of province tuition. They will either be forced to seek more expensive education out of province, or have to contend with lower quality education in Quebec.

[@user-iw4jl6bc8h]

Universities in Ontario have no more money and will reduce the number of students . Canada is reducing the number of international stidents accross CAnada and students have at least $20,000 in a bank account before applying for s stident visa.

[@Spirited_Away]

Hey,I was hoping to apply in University of Montreal..It says 20k for international students which is very reasonable compared to it's counterparts of another provinces of Canada. I'd like to pursue economics however I don't have any French knowledge...Is there any way I can?

[@kalafinwe5498]

I see your ambition and it is good of you to pursue your goals, but keep in mind that language is important, and should be for a majority speaking province. Would you go to the University of Berlin without any knowledge of german ? You could possibly adapt yourself in Montreal by just speaking english, that is not the main issue. In the selection process, which is quite selective by the way, the chances of someone getting in without any knowledge of french is slim. Keep in mind, you will have classes in french for the duration of your program, and communication via emails, administration and such, will also be in french even though you can ask for a preferred language. You should probably contact an agent within UdeM, they could explain this better and tell you the chances. Edit : I don't want this to be a bummer, really you should ask someone there. Maybe they changed the selection process, or widened the enrollements. Try it out, never give up !

[@stevecochrane9531]

You can try Bishop's University in the Eastern Townships (near Sherbrooke). It's a very picturesque area, and it seems the hike in English universities is limited to Concordia and McGill. Many years ago, Bishop's had a good economics program (and might still). Keep in mind, my recommendation is based on when I lived in Montréal over 20 years ago. Good luck!

[@savoirancien4093]

Start with Duolingo to learn French

[@DonaldMains]

if you don't speak French why are you wanting to go to the Universite de Montreal?

[@savoirancien4093]

@@DonaldMains Maybe he want to learn French?

[@savoirancien4093]

We have people from outside Quebec (Anglophones) that come to Quebec to benefit cheaper fees (Paid by Quebec Taxpayers) and then leave to live in another province. This is such a burden on Quebec economy. They should not have double the fees but triple them to make it fair. Still, great move CAQ.

[@DonaldMains]

I see no problem with increasing fees for out of province students, as you pointed out correctly, higher education is subsidized by Quebec taxpayers. it's the same for American out of state students. I think the issue is that the added fees are unilaterally applied against Anglo schools and not French schools. I don't think UQAM or Universite de Montreal are increasing fees to out of province students who want to study in French. Am I correct?

[@savoirancien4093]

@@DonaldMains Its because 99.8% of out of province students attends English Universities since they come from English Speaking provinces. Theres is like 30,000 out of province students go English institution and 65 goes to French Institution. We want to attract people to come to Quebec learn French, settle here and integrate in society. Not just to enjoy a subsidies education and go away like 90% of English people do. Also, there is nothing wrong in promoting our national language as the ROC and USA have been doing for centuries. The ROC does discriminate against French Quebeckers since there are no French University with low fees for Quebeckers paid by ROC taxpayers. Why do we have offers this to you? Are we your slave? This is akin to the British in Ireland colonial period.

[@DonaldMains]

I doubt your stats on out of province students attending Franco universities are correct. My niece attended UQ a Trois Rivieres. It's very doubtful she was one of only 65 students. The USA definitely doesn't promote a national language, in fact the USA has no official national language. the ROC doesn't discriminate against French. , U of Ottawa, Laurentian U and Universite de Saint Boniface in Winnipeg are Franco and/or bilingual, universities. There must be some in New Brunswick too. The reason why there are so few is that apart from Eastern and Northern Ontario and NB nobody outside of Quebec speaks French. That's not discrimination, that;s just the law of supply and demand. @@savoirancien4093

[@LoveOneAnother-mv4xl]

Why do you type in English, then?

[@savoirancien4093]

@@LoveOneAnother-mv4xl So you can understand? and I'm using google translate.

[@birsay123]

This is coercion and discrimination against the English speaking minority in Quebec! If French has any viability as a language it shouldn’t need to be propped up by the government

[@xouxoful]

If English is inherently superior, there’s no need for the province to subsidise anglophone universities then.

[@savoirancien4093]

Why do Quebec French people have to pay for your education then?

[@robertmeadowfield4346]

I don't get it. If French-speaking Quebec is raising tuition fees, shouldn't applications for English-speaking Universities increase? Or are Canadians and Quebecois simultaneously getting richer as well?

[@jeanbolduc5818]

Universities in Ontario are in debts and serious financial deficits ... Yoy will hear soon that Ontario universities will cut students and increase fees

[@simplecronista2400]

Universities out of Quebec were already much more expensive

[@savoirancien4093]

@@simplecronista2400 Bon! tu commence a comprendre Cronista!

[@simplecronista2400]

@@savoirancien4093 tu vas commencer a comprendre quand l’economie de Quebec sera plus endete qu’avant avec l’anglophobia au maximum. Essaye de vendre du fromage quebecois aux francaises. Ton chef n’a pas ce probleme parce qu’ils se sont monte leur propre salaire 30% d’un seul coup. Maintenant Quebec est la province plus pauvre avec les politiciens mieux payés de tout le Canadá. Tu dois etre fier de ca. Ce comme ca que le Quebec va a finir, avec tout les “entrepreneurs” corrompus en faisant des affaires avec tes impots.

[@simplecronista2400]

@@savoirancien4093 oui, je comprends que ton chef avait besoin de couper en education parce qu’il avait besoin de monter le salaire des deputes de la caq ainsi que son proper salaire 30%. Maintenant Quebec est la province la plus pauvre avec les politicians les plus riches de toutes les provinces de Canadá. Drole ah? Tu dois etre fier de ca. Comme ton chef a dit, il fallait avoir du courage pour faire ca et pouvoir regarder les quebecois aux jeux qui payent 40% d’impots, plus 15% au supermarche.

[@guillaumefortina1209]

Universities are subsidised by the government of Quebec, meaning Quebec taxpayers. Why should Quebec taxpayers pay for out-of-province students, and for English-speaking students?! Do French-speaking universities in other provinces receive the same subsidies from the Ontario, BC, Alberta, etc, governments? No they don't. So why should French-speaking Quebecois pay for English-speaking students from other provinces?!

[@SK-lt1so]

Don't forget that when you apply for school outside of Quebec.

[@sexygeek8996]

Quebec is subsidized by the taxpayers of other provinces so it evens out for the students who go there.

[@XandateOfHeaven]

You have it backwards. Quebec tax payers don't subsidize education for out of province students, out of province students subsidize education in Quebec. What this video doesn't explain is that out of province students already pay higher tuition, the Quebec government is just increasing it further to discourage out of province students from attending English universities in Quebec. The goal is not to have out of province students pay their fair share, the goal it to prevent them from going at all, with the ultimate purpose of shutting down the English language universities. The only people being hurt by this law are students in Quebec, because they will no longer have their education subsidized by out of province Anglophones.

[@amourif]

Remember that before trying to apply for ANY education centre outside of Quebec.

[@user-nh9mf4mx2l]

@@amourif That's fine we'll remember! Et nous allons respecter les règles.

[@SZiani]

The first girl has some balls to complain about the price in Quebec when she knows really well that university would cost even more in Toronto. If you can’t appply in Quebec because of the price, it means you can’t apply in your own province.

[@wyoming9000]

Tuition is less expensive in Ontario though.. Language requirements by graduation make sense, but this fee raise is not really all that sensible

[@SZiani]

It varies widely between programs. Plus if she went to McGill, I doubt she will swap McGill to Brock university. If she goes to UofT in a bachelor of science or BBA , she will pay anywhere from $12k to $16k. She should ask mr "Buck-a-Beer" why he is not subsidizing universities for his own residents the same way Quebec does. @@wyoming9000

[@zoecoffee9054]

​@@wyoming9000 why are you lying?

[@rb239rtr]

@@zoecoffee9054 you do know that one can go to the university website and see what tuition costs are , for example the University of Toronto, which of course, is located in Toronto, and when one puruses the tuition information one would find that Wyoming is 100% correct, tuition for an Ontario student is cheaper in Ontario than in Quebec. I thought one should know.

[@XandateOfHeaven]

University in Quebec WAS cheaper. With the tuition increase it will be $9000 a year to attend McGill, for comparison out of province tuition at the University of Toronto will be $6500. It is not worth it to pay 50% more to study at McGill, so most students just won't go.

[@unoki99]

ironic how Canada is more divided than the entirety of the EU any EU citizen can apply to university in Sweden and study here without tuition fees, since universities here are paid through taxes. All EU citizens can come here to study.

[@antonnnn464]

I studied biomedical sciences in a German university in English. No tuition fees. And I was neither German nor EU citizen.

[@PatG-xd8qn]

And you don't see anything wrong that foreigners come benefit from your system and don't give anything back afterward? If someone comes and gets cheap or free University but stays in the country afterward, I see no problem with this. However, those coming for some free/cheap stuff and then leaving are a problem And that's exactly the case in Québec. People from Ontario and BC come study in Québec because it's cheaper than staying at home, but then they don't stay here after their studies since they don't speak french. So the citizens of Québec end up wasting resources that could be spent elsewhere. I don't see how this would make Canada "more divided than the EU". There are a lot of tensions between members of the EU in tons of different sectors, way more than in Canada. And remember that Canada is more than twice larger than the entire EU. Canada might be one country, but each province has its own government and going to another province can be just like someone from Lisbon going to Moscow in terms of distances

[@unoki99]

@@PatG-xd8qn hmmm interesting you see it as other EU citizens not giving back after going to a Swedish university. EU is built on a shared economy. If Sweden can benefit France, France will benefit Sweden. That's the basic principle of the EU. It was created to make war counterintuitive. also your analogy of the size of Canada doesn't really make sense since majority of people all live in the same area anyways.

[@unoki99]

@@antonnnn464 that's awesome! but are you from any country then that has such ties with the EU? say Switzerland, Norway or Iceland for instance

[@antonnnn464]

@unoki99 No. Higher education is tuition free or almost free regardless of your citizenship in Germany and actually most of EU countries. Some countries might charge a tuition if BSc or MSc is taught not in a local language (aka English), but it's peanuts in comparison to Canadian or especially US fees. Actually, I came to Montreal with a work permit after 5 years in Germany. The reason is simple. It's very hard to get German permanent residence and passport + professional discrimination of anyone who is not German by blood.

[@susanma3483]

This won't last long.

[@gemox3225]

As a former American alumni of McGill (I was a graduate student there), I went to Québec in order to learn French, as did other Americans and some out of province Canadians (from Alberta mostly), so I think the French language requirement could also be a draw. Learning another language, especially a world language like French, is incredibly useful.

[@matthewwatt54]

Tell me you don’t understand the issue without telling me you don’t understand the issue 🙄

[@savoirancien4093]

@@matthewwatt54 Pourquoi tu déménage pas au Nouveau-Brunswick?

[@savoirancien4093]

So, do you speak french a little bit. Comment ca va?

[@benwang9745]

Real solution here is to just let Quebec become it's own country so we don't need to associate Canadians with Quebecians anymore but then the next issue is that we will be living next to French proxy state and we can see from current geopolitical tidings that it doesn't favor the west to have the French sitting close to us because it's quite murky whose side they're on.

[@Serge-cm5my]

Give them autonomy, but control their diplomatic arm and security policy. For important issues like Quebec hydropower.

[@johndoe-cd9vt]

I have a solution, they can be part of France... After all, it was the case long time ago ...

[@PotatoToon]

If the other provinces do the same for Quebec students it will not matter, the main goal is to protect french inside of Quebec and whatever happens in the other provinces is not the government concerns.

[@savoirancien4093]

Why does French Quebecers have to pay for the education of English speakers from out of province. Honestly! Long time overdue. Quebecers paid for the education of thousands of doctors that are practicing in Ontario. I don’t mine English people but its time you pay for your own stuff. Where is the French University with cheap fees for French Quebecers in Ontario paid by Ontario Taxpayers. There is no reciprocity in English Canada. we got to stop the gravy train!

[@Cr8tedNow-oq2rf]

good for quebec

[@Kbcqw]

Ya thats fine, they are protecting their language and culture. Why should the québécois be taxed to finance schools for international students and people who will immediately go back to their own province after getting a degree?

[@rb239rtr]

The Quebec government is getting a lesson in Finance 101, that being the elasticity of supply and demand to relative to price

[@DW-op7ly]

Sounds more like these students and international students are putting 3 times as much tuition into these English speaking Universities and the Province wants to funnel that money to the French speaking Universities. lowering tuition at the French speaking Universities probably means less money to operate

[@wyoming9000]

Why think about it this way? why not try to make use of the tens of thousands of students who want to study in Quebec by incentivizing them to learn French and settle down? You could have reduced tuition for already bilingual students, require a certain percentage of courses be taken in French, require a basic understanding of French (a2?) for admission, etc. This seems more about the government finding ways to siphon money away from public institutions than it does protecting the French language.

[@TT-fq7pl]

@@wyoming9000 Spot on! For these types of right wing governments, it's always about stealing public money for their own nefarious purposes while conning the gullible with lies about protecting morality and culture.

[@XandateOfHeaven]

Quebec tax payers don't subsidize out of province students, it's the other way around. Out of province students already pay higher tuition, the new increase is just to discourage them from going so they can eventually shut down the English language universities. It only harms Quebec students because they no longer have their tuition subsidized by out of province tuition.

[@ballacsay9263]

They forget about their socalled democracy and freedom

[@jeanbolduc5818]

???? this video does not give the real story .. the increse is $3,000 and Mc Gill is crediting the student, there is no increase. As a Quebecker , i pay my taxes . I dont want foreigners benefit of the best education at low cost and returning to their country afterwards . Universities in Quebec are supported by the government and Quebec tax payers .... That is why it is not expensive.... Universities in Ontario and BC are in deficits and will cut the numbers of students

[@slyparis2447]

oh !! are we witnessing a MAGA export product here ? it is a discussion on higher education, what are you even doing here ?

[@twillybbe]

Unpopular opinion. I think it’s fair.

[@xaviermoreno2248]

Make Quebec French students pay higher tuition fees when they apply to study in other provinces .specially in Otawa

[@savoirancien4093]

Theve been paying 4X times the tuitions fees for decades now. Thats why they dont go! lol!

[@DanipBlog]

Quebec just keeps insisting on using the gayest language in Europe....

[@alansmithee8831]

I learned French in school in England to a decent level for an English speaker. In Vancouver I met a French speaking Canadian and thought I was getting on very well. I had been asked out by a girl from Clermont-Ferrand at university, so it seemed to me at first that I might have caught someone's eye again. After a while I realised, despite speaking French, the Irish looking lass was just being a friendly Canadian. She explained that many Catholic Irish had settled in Quebec, which shared their religious beliefs back in previous generations. It made me realise there were French speaking Canadians, who had moved west. My own relatives had moved to BC from Windsor after the work brought by being near Detroit dwindled. I just missed them as they moved up the coast whilst I was touring North America. I later spoke to my mother's cousin, who called after I got back to UK. This was my long winded way of saying that Quebec does not have all the French speaking Canadian people, so isolationist thinking seems a bit narrow minded. Note my current girlfriend is half Irish by ancestry and we have been together for years now, though she speaks no French.

[@michaelrmurphy2734]

And you may not know that so many Irish Catholic people whose parents perished on the crossing were adopted by French speaking Catholic families in Quebec. So, Francophone for many generations WITH Irish names and ancestry. There is even a Canadian Heritage Minute about it.

[@alansmithee8831]

@@michaelrmurphy2734 Well my girlfriend with Irish ancestry has a Yorkshire accent and attitude, but you can imagine where her temper comes from. My friend and I were often mistaken for Irish by proud Irish-Americans, on our tour by Greyhound round US. We had to disappoint them by admitting we were English. We tried to stay friendly by pointing out he had the celtic forenames James Stewart. If you want a laugh at French with a Yorkshire accent, I recommend you see "Ripping Yarns" episode "Eric Olthwaite". The follow on story "Golden Gordon" is also very funny, though no French.

[@NoctLightCloud]

political science and philosophy? geeee

[@foxjumper7532]

Très bonne chose, les pauvres étudiants de Mcgill devront apprendre un peu de français. Ils me font de la peine, eux qui se sont toujours crissé du français. Bien fait pour eux et Vive le Québec francophone !! ⚜️⚜️⚜️

[@amourif]

remember this comment before you, your children, your grandchildren, your nephews and nieces, and/or all your other relatives study & go to ANY education centre outside of Quebec.

[@user-nh9mf4mx2l]

@@amourif We will!

[@Skanzool]

Shut down Concordia University. There's absolutely no reason to have two English-language universities in downtown Montreal.

[@Siopaoko]

McGill they pronounced as Miguel?

[@DonaldMains]

No, it's pronounced mmmm-Gill or Mic-Gill

[@Siopaoko]

@@DonaldMains oh really, at first I thought it was Mc as in McDonald's. So Mac Gill.

[@DonaldMains]

Mac , mic, or mmmm., There are all fine. Mac Gill is probably best but in everyday conversation the Mc becomes shortened and all people hear is the gill with some sort of M sound at the front. . @@Siopaoko

[@koiue.g8709]

French language is dying no matter what they do

[@savoirancien4093]

We know its your goal. JAMAIS CA VA ARRIVER!!!!

[@user-nh9mf4mx2l]

@@savoirancien4093 Clairement! Je suis pas vraiment séparatiste en plus mais je penses que tout le monde doit comprendre que le déclin du Français au quebec est une problématique, car le Québec est une nation. Il n'y a aucune réciprocité au Canada.

[@savoirancien4093]

@@user-nh9mf4mx2l Merci pour ton commentaire. Lis les commentaires de nos frères anglophones. Tu deviendras séparatiste dans pas long.

[@markeissler]

I think it makes sense. Why should the French subsidize the English?

[@XandateOfHeaven]

You have it backwards. Out of province English students are not being subsidized, they subsidize education in Quebec because they already pay higher tuition. The new increase is just to prevent them from coming to Quebec at all so the government can close the English universities. Out of province tuition for English universities is now 50% more than out or province tuition in Ontario.

[@XandateOfHeaven]

@@savoirancien4093 That's completely false, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. There are bilingual and French language universities and colleges outside of Quebec. Saint-Boniface in Winnipeg is French, the University of Moncton is French, Sainte-Anne University in Nova Scotia is French, York University's Glendon campus in Toronto is French, the University of Ottawa is bilingual, the University of Alberta Saint-Jean campus is French. Even Alberta has a French language school for god sake.

[@theendurance]

Because english is 10x more important than French. Just like we subsidize farmers and airline companies more than we subsidize basket weavers

[@nat-ro3mb]

What kind of job is she going to get with that degree?

[@caribbeanradiology7004]

Law school, political consultant, government or business owner. I guess you didn't go to University.

[@nat-ro3mb]

@@caribbeanradiology7004 I did.

[@antoinesubitlescoups338]

Great news

[@manuelcastaneda7838]

What

[@user__100]

Canada uses Newcomers to pay pensions of old Europeans through tax

[@savoirancien4093]

At the end of the report, They say ''What if Ontario does the same''. Ontario has been charging already 3 times the fees for decades now. LOL. About English Canada resentment : So if Quebec people is less of your slave you are not happy? We have to pay for your education and give you candies as well!

[@sunking5892]

Remind me again how much in transfer payments does Quebec pay to English Canada? Now how much does Quebec get from English Canada? Whose getting all the candy? English Canada has to grow up and stop the transfer payments, if they separate let them separate.

[@savoirancien4093]

@@sunking5892 So in exchange to transfer payments we have to pay for your education? Whats the deal? Let’s just separate. ROC and Quebec is like a couple that should have divorced so long ago, yet, we force our self on one another, which amplify the toxicity towards each other. Let’s put an end to it. You can keep the equalization payment, we will keep all the money we send to Ottawa, which is way more than the 13B equalization payment we receive back

[@sunnyinmilkyway2114]

​@@savoirancien4093 quebec needs to stop feeding on our billions, so tired of this beggary

[@savoirancien4093]

@@sunking5892 So in echange for transfert payment, we have to pay for your education. Is that the deal? Do you take into consideration that fact that we paid for the education of English Canadians for decades in your transfert payments calculations?

[@savoirancien4093]

@@sunking5892 The Equalization payments arguments is really getting old and is just untrue. Does the equalization payments include the 14 billion for Volkwagen in Ontario, 80 billions for Irving shipyard in Halifax, taxes of federal public workers working in Ottawa. 20 billion in annual subsidy to the oil and gas industry. Quebecers paid 20% of those bills. Is that taken into account in your Equalization Payments? Quebec is treated like colony by Canada akin to the British in Ireland.

[@ivancaballero5123]

Do not be silly, the real reason why the housing price is crazy is because of the Chinese :) not the international student :) the problem will remain :)

[@maxstanko]

clearly not lmao. come to ontario and you’ll be surprised to see it’s not the chinese

[@kateb2643]

Racist myth

[@EA-ck4so]

Chinese?? Canada exports half million of Indians each year.

[@ivancaballero5123]

Yeah, but the Indian are poors. They can not afford to buy a house, did you know that in China, hong Kong and Taiwan the regular house there are more expensive than here, so yeahhh, fot them is cheaper to buy a house here than there :v

[@dongiovanni8899]

Indians in Toronto, chynese in Vancouver; Quebec doesn't have Asian problem as they come to Quebec with French proficiency

[@sanagirlqueen]

Support french French language must be embraced by all

[@mikematthews4465]

Protect French by attacking English? This will never work. History will show the Legault government to be inept and obtuse….as well as highly ineffective

[@amourif]

remember this comment before you, your children, your grandchildren, your nephews and nieces, and/or all your other relatives study & go to ANY education centre outside of Quebec. Because they wont probably have french

[@sanagirlqueen]

@@amourif I'm asking the international community to ditch English as a global language and shift to french not just in Quebec entire canada must speak French also non french countries like Australia Uganda Kenya

[@AI-xs4fp]

Might make sense if they actually spoke reasonable French in Quebec...

[@savoirancien4093]

To say that, you dont speak a word of French. That's a Canadian myth rooted in Quebec hatred.

[@johnl2727]

Maybe they should have let Charles De Gaulle take them long ago.

[@0the0ambient0]

I would like to visit Quebec again someday but the growing anti-English bigotry there is disgusting. Now they’re going after young people’s education too.

[@rb239rtr]

I think that is the government. I was in a Quebec restaurant that had no english speaking staff, they were more afraid of our table of 4 than we were of them.

[@theawakener1.6]

dumb move

[@nicolasg.514]

Ce n'est pas aux contribuables Québécois de payer pour l'éducation des étudiants des autres provinces.

[@infinity3668]

Canada a country I'm looking forward to for my masters.

[@icecp4279]

It's a terrible country. Unfriendly people, expensive hellhole, government bureacracy for everything, terrible public transport and the government and every institution and company just sees you as a piggy bank. I left and couldn't be happier.

[@infinity3668]

@@icecp4279 Ok, thank you.

[@lovathon6365]

youll have a wonderful time here. every country has problems but some take it way farther than others, as i see by the initial comment left by icecp4279. if it was that bad, everyone would leave and no one would want to come here

[@R-oc4tr]

I would make a really good research before going there. Canada has a huge marketing strategy followed by a huge immigration industry that hires youtubers to speak wonders about the country. I advice you to research about work after graduating and see if its convenient or not. I was about to go there but did my honework and end up saving my self a huge dissapointment.

[@bolbol8043]

​ Aren't they antisemitic as well 😂

[@stansbornak8116]

Coercion will result in failure

[@PatG-xd8qn]

Coercion? Before this, it was cheaper for someone from Ontario to come study here than in Ontario, and most english speakers don't stay in Québec after their studies. Thus, Québec citizens just wasted money and resources financing the studies of people who won't even stay here to pay back in taxes what we have given them.

[@icantwiththis]

​@@PatG-xd8qndont they spwnd money while they are living there?

[@PatG-xd8qn]

@@icantwiththis Definitively not 20k per year In the end, if people from Ontario and BC want cheap University, then they should ask their own government to subsidize their own universities so that they can be as cheap as our universities in Québec. If all provinces had similar costs in their universities, I would see zero problem with people from other provinces coming to study here at the same price as us

[@MichaelSteger-dl2js]

I think it's fair, let the free market dictate. Learn French or get out. Decrease enrollment and go out of business.

[@enki_guate]

Pretty akward to listen to the people who speak French being “translated” into English dialogues 🥴

[@DonaldMains]

Are you surprised when the title is in English? This is the English language version of this report. there is a French version also. Do you complain about everything or just almost everything?

[@kalafinwe5498]

France 24 is a news channel from France. But this is a sub-channel made specifically for anglophones. How could you have possibly missed that ? It is literally written "France 24 English".

[@user-nh9mf4mx2l]

So you guys can understand? Lol. And because we were colonized by the English?

[@AbhishekSingh-zz6wo]

Free Quebec from Canada want independent French country

[@johndoe-cd9vt]

Stop crying we the french can help you learn the language : )

[@jeanbolduc5818]

Your information is false ... The increase is $3 ,000 and Mc Gill university is reimbursing the students... There is no increase.

[@user-iw4jl6bc8h]

Education is a provincial juridiction. The governement of Quebec already give to all universities in Quebec $ 17,000. per student . . It is normal if you are not from Quebec you need to pay more . Montreal is not expensive compared to Toronto or VAncouver . Montreal have the best universities and the best quality of life in CAnada .

[@sewerrat]

Quebec deserves freedom from Anglo Canada. We won't be bullied.

[@mintl1385]

Study at English schools in Canada and move to US once ur a Canadian citizen

[@icantwiththis]

Why would you he able to move to the US if youre a Canadian citizen?

[@user-nh9mf4mx2l]

Why should i go live in the US? No benefits for me.

[@shahjehan]

Why not go to an Ontario school?

[@lattakia3812]

Good job Quebec

[@tseliot5514]

HAHA, GO BERRRR Decided not to apply to McGill for grad school just for this reason. Their loss.

[@louisecote3542]

Sniff sniff,study in your province dude !

[@EugWanker]

@@louisecote3542 The report says the tuitions for grad students didn't increase.

[@deathhunter1029]

@@louisecote3542xenophobia is strong with this one!

[@louisecote3542]

@@deathhunter1029 I read some of your comments,no leçon to give dude!!!

[@moderatecanuck]

I will never go back to my hometown. Thanks Legault

[@klarissaclairiton9010]

You can barely speak English in public in Quebec. You will be told to stop even if it is a private conversation outside of the workplace.

[@sanagirlqueen]

Canada must speak only french no English must be spoken this rule should be implemented also in Australia and Kenya

[@amourif]

australlia is not french and kenya is also not...

[@user-np2wn2yo5m]

I love Canada I love Quebequas Je sure tre contact

[@benwang9745]

As someone who went to Montreal for work, Quebec is nothing like the rest of Canada imo, it should just be called west France, New France, Franida, or no speak English here. So many people there spoke absolutely 0 English or extremely broken English with a heavy French accent. Compare this with Vancouver where EVERYONE speaks English and I heard 0 French. Idk about you but that's a pretty clear indication that the people are not integrated well and this video/news is further proof that it's intentional and by design. They have no wish to join rest of Canada and USA and reject any attempt to give up their French heritage and culture. Quebec isn't Canada, it's France.

[@XandateOfHeaven]

That's not really accurate. Almost half of Quebecers are bilingual, and this is a huge increase from 50 years ago. If you believe Quebec is unassimilated now you should have seen it in the 1960s.

[@savoirancien4093]

@@XandateOfHeaven Why dont you move to New Jersey and watch Jersey shore.

[@chozinthet6366]

@@XandateOfHeaven liars !

[@deathhunter1029]

Lets separate qc and make it an only speaking fench country. Well see how long it last😂😂😂

[@kenyup7936]

Omg it’s really harsh for non English native speakers as well as French native speakers though, like me a Chinese, Quebec isn’t my first place for studying in Canada for sure

[@kenyup7936]

@@jeanbolduc5818 tuition is ok but two languages proficiency requirements are harsh for me

[@savoirancien4093]

If you dont want to learn French, Dont come to Quebec. Do you want us to go speak Japanese in China?

[@kenyup7936]

@@savoirancien4093 sure you can do it lol, I just joking aournd , dont get me wrong, learn a new language takes more time though. i fully respect those policies

[@alibrain14]

Exactly..one Must learn french If he or she wants top leave or study in Quebec, nothing wrong in That...i have plan to Work in Germany als a doctor, And i start learning German 2 years ago...the Problem i See is english native speakers don't want or have Résistance to learn another language, and they expect Others to speak english everywhre

[@kenyup7936]

@@alibrain14 as Chinese who is software developer, I learned a few computer lang like Java Python C++, i found way more difficult to learn a human lang lol ,it takes at least 2 years depends on age, if someone getting older they need even more time

[@savoirancien4093]

I hope applications were reduced by 20%. The goal should be 80%. Why do Quebeckers have to pay for the education of ALL Canadians and foreigners. NOBODY DOES THAT.

[@Benjaminisfunny]

Not true. In many European countries foreigners can access higher education with no tuition fees, and in some cases these foreigners get paid to study on par with the locals. I am in this case referring to Denmark

[@savoirancien4093]

@@Benjaminisfunny Not if your are from outside Europe. Other European states also offers free education to other EU Member. There is reciprocity. This is not the case in Canada or North America. Why do Quebeckers have to offer cheap fee to outsiders while outisder dont offers cheaps fees to Quebeckers? Question of fairness. Its time to end exploitation of Quebec people.

[@AlphineWolf]

Don't you mean the rest of Canada is accessing the results of the transfer payments their province had to transfer to Quebec? Shad up. Quebec shouldn't charge Canadians period double what they charge the have provinces. Our tax payer money is what funds the universities not your taxes.

[@savoirancien4093]

@@AlphineWolf The Equalization payments arguments is really getting old and is just untrue. Does the equalization payments include the 14 billion for Volkwagen in Ontario, 80 billions for Irving shipyard in Halifax, taxes of federal public workers working in Ottawa. 20 billion in annual subsidy to the oil and gas industry. Quebecers paid 20% of those bills. Is that taken into account in your Equalization Payments? Quebec is treated like colony by Canada akin to the British in Ireland.

[@rb239rtr]

Not true- the other provinces do not make too much of a distinction for students from other provinces. Ontario charges an extra $500. Alberta, BC and NS charge the same. I believe foreign students pay more than 100% of the cost of their education- if you have been following the news, you would know how profitable foreign students are

[@cerveauy8782]

Free Quebec from Anglophone Canada.

[@manovrsb]

If Quebec leaves their size in area would be less than what they have as the other parts would stay with canada and abandon french

[@AI-xs4fp]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Please, leave.

[@savoirancien4093]

@@manovrsb An independent Quebec would also include Northern New Brunswick, Northern Ontario, Labrador and Baffin Island.

[@manovrsb]

@savoirancien4093 only Ontario would be sad , the rest of Canada already showed they don't really care if Quebec leaves.

[@icantwiththis]

Youre right we could care less 😂 ​@@manovrsb

[@chipikalonde2920]

Come to the US...no such bs

[@frankiehernandez1948]

Ever hear of “Out of State Tuition”

[@kenyup7936]

Tuition in the US is way more expensive though, no way

[@jeanbolduc5818]

It costs $ 7,000 to study at Mc Gill while it costs $25, 000 in the US

[@chipikalonde2920]

I was actually referring to the language coercion not the tuition fees.

[@kenyup7936]

@@chipikalonde2920 ty

[@gideonmoseri4850]

Vive Quebec

[@rishi505]

JUSTIN T need to resign

[@marshhen]

Has ZERO to do with Trudeau. This is the CAC the provincial government. Franois Legault has his base conviinced that this will stick it to the anglos in Montreal. That is what his base loves.

[@guineapigzed]

This has gone far enough; Time to arrest the French.

[@renatosureal]

I swear I ALMOSt cried ...

[@sylviemenard4169]

So unfair ! I disagree strongly.

[@mattbosley3531]

Seems like the Canadian government needs to get involved. The provincial government is in effect discriminating against English-speaking Canadian citizens. All to promote the speaking of Quebec French.

[@savoirancien4093]

Why does French Quebecers have to pay for the education of English speakers from out of province. Where is the French University with cheap fees for French Quebecers in Ontario paid by Ontario Taxpayers. There is no reciprocity in English Canada. I don’t mine English people but its time you pay for your own stuff.

[@mattbosley3531]

@@savoirancien4093 Why is Quebec not a part of Canada? You keep saying "French" but Quebec is not French, it's not in France, it's not part of France, it's not owned by France. What language you choose to speak shouldn't separate you from the rest of your country.

[@savoirancien4093]

@@mattbosley3531 I mean French Speakers. I dont identify has a French but has a Quebeckers. French speaking Quebercers dont have to pays for the education of English Canadians while English Canadians dont offer French speaking University to French Speaking Quebecers. ITs a Question of Fairness. The current situation is akin to the British in Ireland.

[@mattbosley3531]

@@savoirancien4093 Ireland is a separate country from England / the United Kingdom. Quebec is not a separate country from Canada. Why is it even necessary for universities in Quebec to offer classes only in Canadian French? Quebec is not France, it's Canada. Why should anyone in Quebec not be able to speak and read the dominant language of their country, English? It seems like Quebec is still trying to secede from Canada.

[@savoirancien4093]

@@mattbosley3531 Ireland was once part of the country England and the citizen of Ireland were exploited by England. Same thing here this is exploitation of Quebec people by Canada. . Why does French Quebecers have to pay for the education of English speakers from out of province?. While the rest of Canada does not offer French University to Quebecers? TOTALLY UNFAIR. Why do Quebec people have to pay a tribute in the form of subsidied education to Anglophones in the rest of Canada. The most spoken language in the Americas is Spanish. Why dont you go learn Spanish. We dont want to know your language and be part of your entitled culture. Why dont you move to New Jersey and watch Jersey Shore. Yes we want to separate because you keep on exploiting us. Why dont you pay for your own stuff.

[@savoirancien4093]

Why does Quebecers have to pay for the education of English speakers from out of province. Honestly! Long time overdue. Quebecers paid for the education of thousands of doctors that are practicing in Ontario. I don’t mine English people but its time you pay for your own stuff. Vive Legault! Vive la CAQ!

[@AI-xs4fp]

Try surviving as a "country" then.

[@savoirancien4093]

@@AI-xs4fp Let’s just separate. ROC and Quebec is like a couple that should have divorced so long ago, yet, we force our self on one another, which amplify the toxicity towards each other. Let’s put an end to it. You can keep the equalization payment, we will keep all the money we send to Ottawa, which is way more than the 13B equalization payment we receive back

[@XandateOfHeaven]

Quebecers don't pay for out of province education, out of province students subsidize your education through higher tuition. No one is saying out of province students shouldn't pay more, this is standard. The issue is that the government of Quebec is increasing turion to such an extreme that no out of province students will come to subsidize education because it just isn't worth it. You are cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[@SK-lt1so]

It's called "racism".

[@pandaDotDragon]

a language is not a race. you welcome.

[@amourif]

@@pandaDotDragon A language is native to a race. *Your** Welcome.

[@deathhunter1029]

@@pandaDotDragonit’s xenopho

[@pandaDotDragon]

@@amourif "A language is native to a race." impressive.... I let you think about it a second time.