Canadian 8mm “Sterile” Bren Gun

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The John Inglis company in Toronto first opened in 1859 as a metalworking shop, and grew steadily over the decades under first John Inglis, and then later his sons. Inglis did substantial amounts of military work during World War One, but the Great Depression hit it hard, and both William and Alexander Inglis died in 1935 and 1936 respectively. The company went into receivership but was purchased by one Major James Hahn (DSO) and a group of business partners in November of 1936. Hahn and his associates saw an opportunity to use this large manufacturing facility to make machine guns for the military, and they were successful - in October 1938 they were awarded a contract to make 5000 MkI Bren guns.More contracts would follow, and by the height of World War Two the company had some 15,000 employees and more than a million square feet of floor space.
Among many other projects, Inglis was contracted to make small arms for sale to the Nationalist Chinese government under Chiang Kai Shek - both High Power pistols and Bren guns in 8mm Mauser (to fit the Chinese standardization on that cartridge). A batch of 8mm ZB-30 light machine guns were brought in from the Far East to use as a pattern, and Inglis engineers were able to successfully redesign the Bren to use that cartridge and magazine.
Where the story gets hazy is in trying to determine how many were made and for whom. The Chinese guns are marked in Mandarin on the receivers, and have “CH” prefix serial numbers, like the Chinese contract High Power pistols. However, two additional variations exist without those Chinese markings. Some are marked “7.92 Bren MkI” and “Inglis 1943” (or 44 or 45), and others - like this one - are just marked “7.92 Bren MkI”. The dated ones are typically referred to as Resistance guns, intended to be supplied to European resistance units for whom 7.92mm ammunition was more readily available than .303 - although information on how many guns were supplied in this way (if any) is difficult to find. The last group is generally called “sterile”, and it is not clear what their purpose is. This particular example is one of 23 that were registered in the US in the early 1960s to Interarms, and it does appear that they were associated with some clandestine US military activities. The serial numbers of those 23 Interarms guns range from 1-5343 to 2-8045, suggesting a production of 13,000 or perhaps as many as 28,000 guns - that is quite a lot to be undocumented and missing.
Hopefully, more information will turn up in the future to shed light on the purpose and use of these 8mm Brens. We do know for sure that many thousands did go to Chinese forces, and some were brought into the UK, where in the 1960s they were used in the development of the 7.62mm NATO L4 version of the Bren.
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@trevorkuehn4084
@trevorkuehn4084 5 жыл бұрын
Today in my chemistry class my teacher complained about her husband “sitting there loudly watching videos of some guy with a ponytail talking about old guns and the entire history of them for half an hour” you’re getting more famous Ian!
@mastathrash5609
@mastathrash5609 5 жыл бұрын
Blessings upon your chem teacher's hubby.
@robgoodsight6216
@robgoodsight6216 5 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahah
@ChrisB.C.
@ChrisB.C. 5 жыл бұрын
You absolutely should've stood up, shaking your hands above your head, and shouted, "ALL HAIL GUN JESUS!!! ALL HAIL GUN JESUS!!!" Then just sat back down like nothing happened. I wouldn't have been able to stop my self if I'd been there. I'm not even kidding. Thanks for sharing that. It made my night.
@yeahsteeeve
@yeahsteeeve 5 жыл бұрын
God forbid her husband enjoy something for a half an hour...
@yeahsteeeve
@yeahsteeeve 5 жыл бұрын
@just a channel and you're defending an anecdote from a woman you've never known or met. Thats some master level white knighting.
@eolaspellor1718
@eolaspellor1718 5 жыл бұрын
Canada’s wartime poster-girl was “Ronnie the Bren Gun Girl”; a sultry brunette, munitions worker, smoking a cigarette and caressing a Bren. She was a real worker at Inglis’ Longbranch works. This was a couple of years before America came up with Rosie the Riveter.
@jayuu8380
@jayuu8380 4 жыл бұрын
It was the original sonic oc
@ESmyth-nu7ug
@ESmyth-nu7ug 4 жыл бұрын
ve explored the old factory grounds many times... shooting range is still intact... I also remember remember the large blue INGLIS billboard on the side of the Gardiner expressway
@Brent-jj6qi
@Brent-jj6qi 4 жыл бұрын
E. Smyth oh damn, where on the gardener?
@ESmyth-nu7ug
@ESmyth-nu7ug 4 жыл бұрын
Brent 13377331 just north of the gardener, on the current grounds of “Liberty Village” condos... the old small arms factory in Longbranch made Sten and Lee Enfields and is located at Lakeshore + Dixie rd. The water tower still remains, dated 1942 if remember correctly
@davidlowry8765
@davidlowry8765 3 жыл бұрын
Longbranch was Small Arms Limited, not Inglis. SAL made Lee Enfields. SAL later became Canadian Arsenal Limited which made FN C1 A1 Rifles (FAL) during the 50s and 60s. Inglis was where Liberty Village is now. They made Brens, Stens and Hi Powers. Note the Canadian Army is now looking for replacement of the Inglis Hi Power which they are still using.
@firepower7017
@firepower7017 5 жыл бұрын
Poor gun, it won't be able to have children anymore.
@Mick824
@Mick824 5 жыл бұрын
It is truly a sad day when a firearm cannot bring it's own offspring into the world.
@johntheexplainer
@johntheexplainer 5 жыл бұрын
You mean... it's shooting blanks?
@johnofnz
@johnofnz 5 жыл бұрын
I think Ian may have been referring to cleanliness - like if you washed the weapon with anti bacterial soap.
@williammiao8862
@williammiao8862 5 жыл бұрын
It should be pretty "clean" in theory
@ФилиппЛыков-д8е
@ФилиппЛыков-д8е 5 жыл бұрын
"Son of a gun!"
@mo45327
@mo45327 5 жыл бұрын
There definitely were some Bren guns in 7,92 dropped to resistance units in occupied Europe. Here in former Yugoslavia we have a few surviving examples that were used by Tito's partisans.
@turczech
@turczech 5 жыл бұрын
But also Germans were using the leftovers from Brno after they took over so they could've been those, then it depends on the sights, Germans would be using the original drum on the side. Partisans were mostly, not exclusively though, using captured weaponry, aside from what they had left from before the war.
@lavrentivs9891
@lavrentivs9891 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe you could find one of each and take some pictures of them?
@420JackG
@420JackG 5 жыл бұрын
The OSS was modifying all sorts of weapons to drop to partisans and resistance fighters, I'm sure the SAS was too.
@lavrentivs9891
@lavrentivs9891 5 жыл бұрын
@@420JackG I think you mean the SOE rather than SAS. SOE were working with resistance movements across Europe to sabotage the germans. While the SAS were destroying german and italian aircraft hands on in North Africa.
@mo45327
@mo45327 5 жыл бұрын
@@turczech In Yugoslavia you could find all sorts of ZB derived machine guns. Original ZB-26 were bought by Kingdom of Yugoslavia before WW2, ZB-30J (in Yugoslavia known as M37) that were made to Yugoslav specifications in Brno and domestically by VTZ (later Zastava). Germans used captured Czech ZBs and Bulgarians used ZB-39 in 8x56mmR. Bren guns (Mk I and Mk II) were supplied by the Allies first to Chetnicks and later to Tito's partisans in significant numbers. Most of them were regular .303 caliber guns, but a few were Canadian Inglis manufactured guns in 7,92x57mm. They can be identified in photos (they were painted with red stripes by the British to distinguish them from .303 Brens) and a few examples survive in museums, notably the Military musem in Belgrade.
@spudgunn8695
@spudgunn8695 5 жыл бұрын
A "sterile" Bren? You mean it was specifically designed to fire blanks?!😂🤣
@denisvermeirre1024
@denisvermeirre1024 5 жыл бұрын
7:04 One of the Chinese contract Brens (with Chinese characters on the side) is on display at the Canadian War museum.
@TheAlexagius
@TheAlexagius 5 жыл бұрын
Well its already exceeded the estimate "Current Bid: $42,500.00"
@wolflegion_
@wolflegion_ 5 жыл бұрын
the kansas italian guess I need to sell my wife and kids
@Chaosrain112
@Chaosrain112 5 жыл бұрын
"An excellent firearms auction."
@josiahgibson6373
@josiahgibson6373 5 жыл бұрын
Joke's on you, this gun can't have kids.
@modusoperandi00
@modusoperandi00 5 жыл бұрын
Sure, Canadian.
@michaelemberley2767
@michaelemberley2767 5 жыл бұрын
Some of the Chinese marked guns stayed in Canada and were used by the Canadian Army. I worked with a chap who remarked on what good guns the Chinese made. He then explained that he had used Chinese made Brens when he was in the army. I had a hard time convincing him they were made in Canada FOR the Chinese.
@thetriode
@thetriode 5 жыл бұрын
@@williamkeith8944I'm surprised they're not making and exporting them still tbh.
@pebo8306
@pebo8306 5 жыл бұрын
@just a channel SERIOUSLY????A country that can send satellites to the moon does not have the capacity????
@f.h.9606
@f.h.9606 5 жыл бұрын
@just a channel Are you from the US? Keep telling that to yourself while you import goods for another 500 000 000 000 USD every year. And it's not longer plastic buckets and toys. It's mobile phones, computers, all kinds of electronics, instruments, car parts, kitchen equipment and let's not forget Trumps promotional items.
@brianargo4595
@brianargo4595 5 жыл бұрын
Chinese manufacturers all build to a price. If you want cheap, they'll make you cheap. If you want quality, they'll make you quality, whatever quality and tolerances you're willing to pay for, just like anywhere else, gotta find the right company. Some will make a whole bunch of whozits and whatsits and just send you the ones that match your specs, selling the rest to whoever wants them. Others will tool up to only produce your exact specs. Obviously you're gonna pay the most and have to work the most with the latter.
@michaelemberley2767
@michaelemberley2767 5 жыл бұрын
What ever does that have to do with with my comment? @@brianargo4595
@Dr.D00p
@Dr.D00p 5 жыл бұрын
Better weapon than the BAR. .....runs for cover.
@Doinkus98
@Doinkus98 5 жыл бұрын
As an LMG, absolutely. As an automatic rifle? I'd take the BAR.
@vitoscaletta7151
@vitoscaletta7151 5 жыл бұрын
@@Doinkus98 The BAR was never meant to be an LMG anyways. The Bren was built for that purpose
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 5 жыл бұрын
Don't run for cover, you're absolutely correct. For the Second World War the BAR is a big ole' piece of shit. That said, it wasn't even a good automatic rifle by that time period. There were better alternatives. WWII was a numbers war and thus a good quality firearm isn't as good as a decent one that's still in stock and that factories are already tooled up to churn out. I mean the US pattern BAR, specifically, the other countries that adopted the BAR did much better with it.
@kyleschafer6275
@kyleschafer6275 5 жыл бұрын
I mean the bren's internals are the basis of the 249 and 240B, both of which are still going in the armies of Nato members.
@HBK-6S
@HBK-6S 5 жыл бұрын
@@kyleschafer6275 240B uses the BAR operational system flipped upside down, 249 uses a multilug rotating bolt while the Bren uses a ZB26 tilting bolt. If anything, the Bren shares more with the MP44 than the FN MAG/240B and FN Minimi/249
@chlebowg
@chlebowg 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian, found a vz26 in Iraq back in 08' and had a .303 Bren MkII here in Astan 3 months ago. Solid and reliable machine guns.
@dankdark974
@dankdark974 5 жыл бұрын
Too bad you couldnt bring those back. Damn laws.
@meurigdavies8080
@meurigdavies8080 5 жыл бұрын
chlebowg .303 Bren 'finest Light Machine gun in the world' as I was taught in the UK Army Cadet Force in 70s,already replaced in the regular army by GPMG.
@mastathrash5609
@mastathrash5609 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, that's a pretty cool one to come across.
@dfwai7589
@dfwai7589 5 жыл бұрын
@@dankdark974 it's called "Don't ask, don't tell"
@markchatman9583
@markchatman9583 5 жыл бұрын
You should pump out videos of that stuff
@chillcatking9866
@chillcatking9866 5 жыл бұрын
Hey dude, just because we use a lighter cartridge dont mean we're sterile, its how you use it that matters
@thechongwolla
@thechongwolla 5 жыл бұрын
If anyone doubts the Bren Gun look up British Victoria Cross citations from world war two. They start with "[name] picked up a Bren Gun and..." almost always.
@hauptmanndosman
@hauptmanndosman 5 жыл бұрын
Or "(insert name) pickup up a PIAT"
@duncanbrown1864
@duncanbrown1864 5 жыл бұрын
@@hauptmanndosman Oh boy...the PIAT..... :(
@meurigdavies8080
@meurigdavies8080 5 жыл бұрын
Thomas Dosman One or two VCs were won at Arnhem with the Piat.
@kgchrome
@kgchrome 5 жыл бұрын
@@meurigdavies8080 italy too... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Smith
@dogsnads5634
@dogsnads5634 5 жыл бұрын
@@duncanbrown1864 The PIAT gets a lot of unfair criticism. It was heavy sure, but cheap. It actually fired a far more powerful HEAT round than the Bazooka, could fire 3 inch mortar shells either in direct fire or in mortar config. It's effective range was also similar to the Bazooka which couldn't hit much beyond 100 yards. Add in it could be fired inside a confined space and a fast reload and rate of fire (if held correctly) then it wasn't half as bad as people think. The Panzerschreck stood out from the pack because of its 88mm round, but the 2.75 inch Bazooka and PIAT both have their own strengths and weaknesses. Certainly better than a Faustpatrone or Panzerfaust...
@piobmhor8529
@piobmhor8529 5 жыл бұрын
I had a great-Aunt who worked in the Inglis plant in Toronto. She made Bren guns during WW2. She always downplayed her contributions saying it was “ just a job”. I beg to differ, she did her bit to make sure we can enjoy the freedoms we take for granted today. All those third wave feminists pale in comparison to the work she did. Well done Aunt Frances, RIP.
@braedengriffiths4249
@braedengriffiths4249 5 жыл бұрын
Goddamn Ian, an early upload and a Canadian one at that! Made my day and it ain’t even 10:30am for me, cheers!
@tinfoilhat38
@tinfoilhat38 5 жыл бұрын
My Great-Grandmother actually worked at Inglis during WWII. I’m not 100% sure on what she did but I know that it had something to do with the sights for Bren guns.
@edwardcarrington3531
@edwardcarrington3531 5 жыл бұрын
tinfoilhat38 thats wild
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 5 жыл бұрын
Keep your family history alive.
@Alex_Mitchell
@Alex_Mitchell 5 жыл бұрын
Clearly, your great-gran did a fine job.
@badmutherfunster
@badmutherfunster 5 жыл бұрын
And lo, gun jesus did lay his hands upon the bren and it was no longer sterile, praise be to gun jesus
@stonegiant4
@stonegiant4 5 жыл бұрын
After watching project lightening I want to see this in action compared to the other bren.
@spudgunn8695
@spudgunn8695 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealColBosch Chatellerault 24/28, I should imagine.
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 5 жыл бұрын
Ian has (used to have?) a Bren modified to use the AK magazines. There is a video of him on a shoot where it failed a couple of times (I don't remember what the issue was).
@rokball4892
@rokball4892 5 жыл бұрын
British and Czech design+German cartridge+Canadian Steel= Inglis Bren gun.
@manwithoutausername
@manwithoutausername 5 жыл бұрын
+ made for the Chinese
@royperkins3851
@royperkins3851 5 жыл бұрын
The Chinese nationalist on Taiwan also made them in 30/06 they were known as the m41,I don't know if they used Canadian-made parts or if they made it all in house . Ironically the suggestion that the US manufacturer this gun inww2 was vetoed as it didn't use the standard cartridge! One of the great what ifs,US marines with brens?But we all know about US ordanace.
@svtirefire
@svtirefire 5 жыл бұрын
So it's a Chen Bren.
@Ensign_Cthulhu
@Ensign_Cthulhu 5 жыл бұрын
Chen gun.
@dannythehonestgamer6051
@dannythehonestgamer6051 5 жыл бұрын
A sterile Bren gun... So it will only fire blanks?
@DeviantOllam
@DeviantOllam 5 жыл бұрын
Some such Bren guns were converted to use 7.62 Soviet and feed from AK magazines, you say with a smile? That'd be a sight I imagine. How cool it would be to even possibly own one, eh?! ;-)
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 5 жыл бұрын
Ian had one (I don't know if he still owns it)
@minuteman4199
@minuteman4199 5 жыл бұрын
Inglis made home appliances in the same factory up until the 1980's before they finally closed. During my Canadian army service I saw pistols that had Chinese characters on the slide, as we were using Chinese contract parts to maintain them.
@marclaplante5679
@marclaplante5679 5 жыл бұрын
Minute Man what? Replacement parts? Pffft! The 9mm Browning pistols are only 75 years old! Barely broken in!
@Mr9Guns
@Mr9Guns 5 жыл бұрын
They are still around but got bought out by Whirlpool Canada.
@hauptmanndosman
@hauptmanndosman 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. My washing machine (mid 2000's) is an Inglis. My how the mighty have fallen.
@polygondwanaland8390
@polygondwanaland8390 5 жыл бұрын
@@hauptmanndosman Almost every arms company goes back to making civilian consumables and appliances after wars. Remember, a big chunk of M1 Carbines were made in a lamp factory.
@ragabara1031
@ragabara1031 5 жыл бұрын
My dad used a Hi-Power during his mandatory military service in the 80s. That being said he was a ROCN reserve officer, so he wouldn't have gotten the latest and greatest... they were still using M1 carbines in his time, rather than the newly-developed T65 or even the M14. Active front line troops probably had much more modern equipment.
@couchbear6108
@couchbear6108 5 жыл бұрын
Traditionally mounted on shoulders of polar bears
@calamusgladiofortior2814
@calamusgladiofortior2814 5 жыл бұрын
That's an urban legend, eh? We actually mounted them on moose, because the antlers made a more stable mounting platform, eh? My dad was a Bren gunner in the Royal Saskatchewan Mounted Moosemen after the war. (My dad actually was a Bren gunner in the reserves after the war, but no moose were involved).
@pebo8306
@pebo8306 5 жыл бұрын
@@calamusgladiofortior2814 Any pictures available???(or was this Canadas secret mode of mass destruction)LOL
@Alex_Mitchell
@Alex_Mitchell 5 жыл бұрын
The only bear-based Bren Gun carrier I ever saw was designed for use on Grizzlies.
@NotOneOfUs
@NotOneOfUs 5 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who, when Ian starts to punch a pin, thinks "is it captive? IS IT CAPTIVE?!" and when it turns out to be captive audibly yells out "YES!!" ?
@Emdee5632
@Emdee5632 5 жыл бұрын
you are far from alone …. :-)
@lucasduque8289
@lucasduque8289 4 жыл бұрын
I salivate when I see a captive pin
@stantheheadhumongous9402
@stantheheadhumongous9402 5 жыл бұрын
Probably a good opportunity to sit down with Binh Sinh again and discuss ww2 support weapons used by chinese!
@MauriceTarantulas
@MauriceTarantulas 5 жыл бұрын
Solid gun! That and the Enfield did something at least to equal the playing field against the Germans. The Sten albeit fugly wasn't as bad as it looked either. One gun I dream of firing. Must save some bucks n go visit a cousin in Arizona. He says he is ten mins from the range.
@Rabahsaurus
@Rabahsaurus 5 жыл бұрын
if you happen to be in Ohio, towersarmory.com
@paladro
@paladro 5 жыл бұрын
who remembers this from "Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels"?
@JackIsMe1993
@JackIsMe1993 5 жыл бұрын
"What the fuck is that? It's me Bren gun" It's up there with with Spaz 12 scene in Snatch "what is that?" "This is a shotgun Sol" "it's a fucking anti aircraft gun Vincent" And now I have to go watch Lock Stock for the seventy third time cheers.
@jimelliot4904
@jimelliot4904 5 жыл бұрын
“Protection from wot? Zee Germans?”
@Kyp031
@Kyp031 5 жыл бұрын
And that she hits no body with it haha
@JackIsMe1993
@JackIsMe1993 5 жыл бұрын
@@jimelliot4904 It's even more amusing because the guy who played Tommy (Stephen Graham) was in Band Of Brothers straight after Snatch if Im not mistaken he was killed by a german mid way throught the series.
@jimelliot4904
@jimelliot4904 5 жыл бұрын
jackisme 1993 I think so yeah. I loved his role as Al Capone in boardwalk empire too
@tommyhartman
@tommyhartman 5 жыл бұрын
Took me a second to process, "Nazis proofed"
@Reactordrone
@Reactordrone 5 жыл бұрын
Well it's always good to make sure your magazines are Nazi proof :)
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 5 жыл бұрын
@@Reactordrone how to nazi proof your magazine? use SAE measurements.
@scullystie4389
@scullystie4389 5 жыл бұрын
VY VON'T ZIS WORK IN MEIN SHUTZENWAFFENGEWEHR
@dankdark974
@dankdark974 5 жыл бұрын
I still dont get it
@scullystie4389
@scullystie4389 5 жыл бұрын
@@dankdark974 Ian was talking about Nazi proof marks, symbols stamped into the metal to let you know this equipment is property of the Nazi-era German government.
@thomasrosenthal1738
@thomasrosenthal1738 5 жыл бұрын
Not mentioned, there was "sterile" Canadian-produced 8X57 ammunition available cheaply in the US back in the 60s of 70s. I still have a few rounds of it somewhere.
@PlanetRibooted
@PlanetRibooted 5 жыл бұрын
YT is screwing with your channel again. I didn’t get a notification for today’s video!
@JohnDoe-pv2iu
@JohnDoe-pv2iu 5 жыл бұрын
Good video on the 8mm! The Communist 7.62x39 conversion is very interesting. A fellow told me about coming across a Bren that took AK mags in Vietnam. I figured it was either a VC conversion or he had misidentified it in the heat of the fighting. Take Care!
@justinrobert2770
@justinrobert2770 5 жыл бұрын
Don't you have one of the Chinese rebarreled guns?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 5 жыл бұрын
Rebuilt in semiauto, yes.
@stonegiant4
@stonegiant4 5 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons neat
@steamboatmodel
@steamboatmodel 5 жыл бұрын
John Inglis and Company (now Whirlpool Canada) "Inglis" is now a brand of household appliances from Whirlpool marketed primarily in Canada. In the United States, Inglis appliances are sold at Best Buy stores.
@foamer443
@foamer443 3 жыл бұрын
Inglis used to be the supplier of appliances to Eatons under the Viking brand, way before Whirlpool.
@ragabara1031
@ragabara1031 5 жыл бұрын
800 out of 30000 LS-26 8mm Mauser MGs delivered... One big reason why the Chinese Nationalists and local area armies couldn't hold ground (and thus constantly had to retreat in the face of numerically inferior Japanese units) was due to lack of firepower and ammunition.
@bobsenior9218
@bobsenior9218 5 жыл бұрын
Just have to mention the way we were taught to strip a bren here in Australia. Piston, barrel, lower, receiver then bipod. You slide back the lower then pull back the charge handle lift out the piston then undo the barrel slide off the lower then remove bipod from body of gun. The instructor taught us this little gem, piss on the barrel and butt the bloody bipod. Love your videos Ian.
@F1ghteR41
@F1ghteR41 5 жыл бұрын
10:23 Isn't it 7.92 I*? Star was quite commonly used in the British marking system of the day.
@lib556
@lib556 5 жыл бұрын
Ian M: one of the few people in the world that seems to know what the pre-1965 Canadian Flag looked like (in the thumbnail pic).
@astridvallati4762
@astridvallati4762 2 жыл бұрын
Not only did Inglis make 7,92 Brens and HP35s for China, they made Boys AT rifles, and Sten MkII as well. For once, the Boys were a Match for Japanese Tanks ( 1930s KMT still used T18 Mausers against Japanese Armoured Cars!). The No4 rifles came from LongBranch. The Stens were converted to 7,62x25 after the Revolution.. The other big production was Browning .303 Aircraft Guns for Commonwealth countries. They certainly a massive enterprise during WWII. Doc AV
@oskarfabian5200
@oskarfabian5200 4 жыл бұрын
FYI "This light machine gun in the Czechoslovak army was marked as the LK vz. 26 ("LK" means "lehký kulomet", light machine gun; "vz." stands for "vzor", Model in Czech). ZB vz. 26 is incorrect marking because "ZB-26" is a factory designation (Československá zbrojovka v Brně), while "vzor 26" or "vz. 26" is an army designation."
@cscscs7979
@cscscs7979 4 жыл бұрын
Indian army still produces and uses it and it's production is done from government ordinance factory in Gujarat
@calamusgladiofortior2814
@calamusgladiofortior2814 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Ronnie the Bren Gun Girl (Canada's version of Rosie the Riveter) helped make this one. She was a real factory worker at the John Inglis factory.
@Hobojoe4464
@Hobojoe4464 5 жыл бұрын
It's not Canada's "version" of Rosie the Riveter, but it's the equivalent to Rosie in popular images of "Women War Workers" It predates Rosie, as the series of Ronnie the Bren gun girl photos were taken in early May 1941.
@calamusgladiofortior2814
@calamusgladiofortior2814 5 жыл бұрын
Jordan Williams Yup, but most people don’t know any of that, but do know about Rosie the Riveter. Hence, it made a convenient shorthand for the idea I was expressing. Cheers.
@dadovitchnic
@dadovitchnic 5 жыл бұрын
We were still using the 7.62mm Bren guns in Australia in some non front line combat units into the late 1980's. I carried and fired them myself, really nice gun to fire.
@matthayward7889
@matthayward7889 5 жыл бұрын
Bren gun? With a clandestine history? Yes please!
@bobbyhood101
@bobbyhood101 4 жыл бұрын
Fighting the Communist in Korea and later Vietnam these would show up ironically fighting against the west , the Chinese using them and supplying them to their communist Allies in South East Asia!
@gaylordpantamime
@gaylordpantamime 5 жыл бұрын
CANADA MUH FUGGER! WE REALLY NEED TO WORK ON OUR GUN LAWS...
@Leviathan02464
@Leviathan02464 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah loosen them!
@SH-gr1bc
@SH-gr1bc 4 жыл бұрын
Greece and Cyprus had some Brens too. Not sure if they were resistance models or simply surplus from the British empire. There's a picture of my father, handling a Bren in the 70s, mounted on a tall tripod.
@stang3787
@stang3787 3 жыл бұрын
In 1970-71 I was stationed at Fort Hood Texas. I was friends with the assistant curator of the 2nd Armored Division Museum. They had a Chinese 8mm Bren captured in Korea. Excellent condition and after the museum was "closed" he would pull items like the Bren out of the case so the two of us "gun nuts" could check them out.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 5 жыл бұрын
Well you finally answered that nagging question about John Inglis Hi Powers. "What was the John Inglis Company anyway?"🤔 Now you tell me they made BREN guns. Highly informative day........
@sickofhobos
@sickofhobos 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone else sick of hearing that guy talk about "I-TOOKA PRO"
@turczech
@turczech 5 жыл бұрын
My father was calling BREN the AK of WWII as almost everyone was using it almost everywhere.
@duncanbrown1864
@duncanbrown1864 5 жыл бұрын
It is kinda like a battle rifle...in a way....
@jayeshdube8448
@jayeshdube8448 5 жыл бұрын
The Indian army and paramilitary still have this in service as standard LMG
@Arbiter099
@Arbiter099 5 жыл бұрын
wiki says they stopped using it in 2012
@pre_ban_andy
@pre_ban_andy 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone else find the I target pro ad extremely annoying?
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 5 жыл бұрын
I find most ads annoying at least it is something related to firearms, and not the Are you the guy with the gun. I also do not skip ads while watching. I do mute. I know that You tube pays content creators more if we watch the whole ad rather than skipping.
@Observer31
@Observer31 5 жыл бұрын
My father had a bit of training with the Bren gun (99% sure it was .303, 90% sure it was an Inglis), and was very impressed with it. I remember him saying something like "a good shooter could cause *some damage* with that gun...".
@zidan1hao917
@zidan1hao917 5 жыл бұрын
The Nationalist China bought huge amount of them, and like every other firearm owned by the Nationalist, they ended up in the PLA's hand. Some of the most famous picture about PLA in the civil war included a 8mm Bren gun. And also, they are called 七九勃然 in China
@drummaghua2687
@drummaghua2687 5 жыл бұрын
I think some of them got captured by the Communist and they were used in the Korean War, but being replaced by Type-56 LMG (which is an RPD copy, not the Type-56 'SMG' which is an AK47 copy) in the 50s.
@Revy_1995
@Revy_1995 5 жыл бұрын
I wish a notable history youtuber would make a video about the Canadians at war. I.E 1812, Boer war, verdun, vimy, Hong Kong Juno beach, that time Croatia attacked us unprovoked. Etc. Most people don't realise how import Canada was and is in international conflicts
@Hobojoe4464
@Hobojoe4464 5 жыл бұрын
Look up Norm Christie he has done plenty of Canadian War series that aired on TVO and such for lots stuff on WW1, WW2, Korea. In some he visits actual battle fields and brings Canadian veterans of the battle with him. (Spanish civil war, WW2 and Korea)
@stevestruthers6180
@stevestruthers6180 5 жыл бұрын
Canada has always punched well above her weight, despite having a military that is perennially under-equipped and undermanned. If you consider that Canada supplied 1,000,000 troops during the Second World War out of a total national population of 11,000,000, that is an absolutely huge accomplishment for such a small country to pull off. The performance of the Canadian Army during the First World War and particularly at Vimy Ridge was so good that it earned Canada a seat during the surrender proceedings at Versailles - Canada was one of the signatory parties of the Treaty of Versailles, which ended the First World War. Again, this too is a huge accomplishment for a small country.
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool
@farmerbrown84
@farmerbrown84 5 жыл бұрын
I have a friend here in Switzerland who has 2 copies of the 7.62x39 version with Chinese characters. Great firearm.
@Tesserae
@Tesserae 5 жыл бұрын
Now I know the significance of the Inglis sign (now torn down) next to Exhibition Place in Toronto (I was only aware of Inglis as manufacturing kitchen appliances and their famous dishwasher). The gun manufacturing district (aka the Liberty district) was across the tracks from Exhibition, which is next to the Fort York Armoury (where the guns were stored before being shipped to Europe).
@breakneckmilk9324
@breakneckmilk9324 5 жыл бұрын
Ian likes to get mornings started early.
@michaelathens953
@michaelathens953 5 жыл бұрын
A-yup, coffee and Forgotten Weapons is my morning ritual. Has been for years now.
@cbsboyer
@cbsboyer 5 жыл бұрын
If only our laws would allow collectors to bring this back to Canada, but "Ooh, it's scary!" rules the day in the North.
@danielmattera4298
@danielmattera4298 4 жыл бұрын
I just found some live rounds for this model in a box of random rounds I had from an auction. I was so confused by the head stamps and bullet dimensions. Its really cool to see what It goes too.
@brentfellers9632
@brentfellers9632 3 жыл бұрын
I have an Inglis....refrigerator
@djgraph404
@djgraph404 5 жыл бұрын
Long Branch represent.
@ravenmaster2007
@ravenmaster2007 5 жыл бұрын
For which resistance movements did Inglis made weapons? I know that 303 Bren where sent to the French, Belgian and Dutch resistance. Do you have any idea why the Brits or the Nazis never manufactured 30 round or 25 round magazines for the 8 mm Bren or ZB-30/26 guns?
@normskvarca
@normskvarca 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your video but when I checked the Morphy's page I got sad...Keep up the great work!
@herculanoguimaraes4605
@herculanoguimaraes4605 5 жыл бұрын
bren guns are still used today, that just show how amazing the design of this gun is
@Zajuts149
@Zajuts149 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, Just thinking of the "what-ifs" one can ponder if the Canadians made a .30-06 Bren, and issued it to the troops joining the First Special Service Force...
@catchen0422
@catchen0422 5 жыл бұрын
Just traveled to Taiwan and saw one of these 8mm Bren in the small arms collection of Military History Museum in Taipei !
@dezeekat
@dezeekat 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you GunJesus, very cool
@halo7oo
@halo7oo 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it would be possible to acquire one, but would a video on the Japanese Howa Type-81 Rifle be something in the future?
@ruui6541
@ruui6541 5 жыл бұрын
Bren gun in 8mm Mauser So, the Vz.26?
@Isaac-ho8gh
@Isaac-ho8gh 5 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the video? There are a few differences like the rear sight.
@JUNIORK1974
@JUNIORK1974 5 жыл бұрын
Brens are the coolest.
@CpyExfiltratinPlayer
@CpyExfiltratinPlayer 5 жыл бұрын
Břen is originally from Czech
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 5 жыл бұрын
It is a licensed version of the Czechoslovak ZGB 33 with slight differences. It's where the name comes from. The first two letters of Brno and Enfield.
@nicknumber1512
@nicknumber1512 5 жыл бұрын
The Chinese ones were from Chiang Kai-Czech.
@presbyterosBassI
@presbyterosBassI 5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that some of them didn't wind up in Israel for the '48 war. They were using a lot of 8mm Mausers.
@benzracer
@benzracer 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting guns are always used in covert applications. I immediately thought why does it have to be sterile? Bullets probably get hot enough to burn off any pathogens anyway...
@paulbutikofer4284
@paulbutikofer4284 5 жыл бұрын
Idk if it's the same company, but inglis makes household appliances now
@Rebd88
@Rebd88 5 жыл бұрын
I really like the ZB 26 family of LMGs Got to shoot one in 7.65 while in the army and was my favorite gun after the SIG 510-4
@LynxSnowCat
@LynxSnowCat 5 жыл бұрын
link for the lazy. Inglis High Power: How a Chinese Whim Became A British Service Pistol kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4HckHWaeqmnsM0
@meurigdavies8080
@meurigdavies8080 5 жыл бұрын
The correct procedure for gas regulation is to set it on the smallest hole until it stops ( about 2 mags) then turn to the next largest hole until it stops then the next until it stops + the next until it stops then change the barrel. With ref to your other (303) vid. In the UK the 'bolt' is referred to as the breech block, the parts are referred to as groups, piston group barrel group, Bipod + body groups the butt is part of the piston group.
@WK-ez1kg
@WK-ez1kg 3 жыл бұрын
It's NOT 8mm - it's 7.92mm!!!!! Why do you insist on calling this calibre 8mm Mauser?
@billspence1799
@billspence1799 3 жыл бұрын
This will be difficult but anyway here I go. The name Inglis comes from Scotland. It is pronounced Ingles. That's like multiple inglenooks not Spanish for English. Told you. An inglenook? Party of a fireplace.
@smartassdroid5149
@smartassdroid5149 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like an 8mm Bren would have been smart to issie to Tank Crews... Can imagine the bloody chaos of the 303. and 8mm logistical nightmare that was supplying tanks. UK should have just moved to 8mm standard.
@edrooney9580
@edrooney9580 5 жыл бұрын
Watch a classic British film called "Lock, stock and two smoking barrels" to see this gun in action :-)
@garlicdemon1
@garlicdemon1 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't this just a ZB26 with extra steps?
@nindger4270
@nindger4270 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's a Bren. That's what a Bren is.
@theacme3
@theacme3 5 жыл бұрын
I would be super interested in seeing a machinegun / cannon working with the Gast principle (wwI invented now in use by some Russian airplane cannons). Its an alternative to a Gatling and very interesting mechanically. Maybe you can get your hands on of those at some point?
@SecondShiloh
@SecondShiloh 5 жыл бұрын
my grandfather was part of a bren gun carrier crew so its very possible he was using this gun, very cool!
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 5 жыл бұрын
More likely he would have been using the 303 caliber version (Unless he fought with the Chinese).
@JoachimElmesioo
@JoachimElmesioo 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't the x just a simplified star?
@Mongo63a
@Mongo63a 5 жыл бұрын
That's one clean gun for its age. I bet it goes for a pretty penny.
@Chester200100
@Chester200100 5 жыл бұрын
Of course it's clean, it's sterile.
@Moondog66602
@Moondog66602 5 жыл бұрын
Ian, will we get a project lightening 2.0 for WW2?
@ccdrums5312
@ccdrums5312 5 жыл бұрын
Love that Canadian ensing
@rpm1796
@rpm1796 3 жыл бұрын
No.1🩸.
@Brahkolee
@Brahkolee Жыл бұрын
Remember kids, always Nazi-proof your magazines. Safety first!
@nuttyjawa
@nuttyjawa 5 жыл бұрын
Not just any Bren Gun "It's me Bren Gun" total missed opportunity :D
@linusterrell3834
@linusterrell3834 5 жыл бұрын
Rebarreling that rifle for 7.62 is not that hard just change the barrel .the mag and bolt should work with no problems . I have done the 98k from 8 mm to 308 win with no chages other than the barrel
@joegillian314
@joegillian314 4 жыл бұрын
What does it mean for a weapon to be "sterile?" Does it refer to the removal of marking to make gun harder to trace?
@jakubdolezal665
@jakubdolezal665 5 жыл бұрын
Chinese had zb26s before so it was only logical to buy this.They could even use the same mags
@linksbro1
@linksbro1 5 жыл бұрын
I really like how you used the flag of the time for the thumbnail. It's the flag my grandfather and great uncles served under. Grandpa wanted to be a pilot but scored too high on the tests, and was assigned to be a navigator instead because of his talent for math, but it didn't really matter because the war ended when he was almost done training. My great uncle was an engineer, and would help construct bridges for allied vehicles. He was awarded a medal for running out into the middle of a bridge during an attack, carrying back a wounded soldier.
@sampointau
@sampointau 3 жыл бұрын
Weren't they used in South America? They also used a lot of 8mm Mauser ammunition.
@thrashsis5412
@thrashsis5412 5 жыл бұрын
In my country, we call every machine gun is "brem" starting from this gun (bren). We have difficult how to pronounce foreign language, so we take easy way to adjust our tongue
@Rhynome
@Rhynome 5 жыл бұрын
What country is this?
@rpm1796
@rpm1796 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rhynome SCOTLAND..🥃🥃
@Rhynome
@Rhynome 3 жыл бұрын
@@rpm1796 close, but I think it's probably Indonesia (maybe Malaysia).
@najssiness
@najssiness 5 жыл бұрын
there is something weird with the intro logo, bad resolution and its there for longer than usual
@georgegordonbrown9522
@georgegordonbrown9522 5 жыл бұрын
And where is the fancy music...
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