Candace Owens debates Russell Brand

Candace Owens and I go head to head here in this excerpt from my Under the Skin Episode (Will It Go Left Or Right? - Candace Owens & Russell Brand). In this Candace Owens Interview, we debate the pros & cons of The Left and The Right and an attempt to negotiate when utopia might look like.
If you want to watch the full Candace Owens podcast then click the link below - I highly suggest you watch the full interview:
• Populist Revolution - ...
This is a short excerpt from my podcast "Under the Skin". Click below to listen to my luminary original podcast and hear from guests including Candace Owens, Jordan Peterson, Edward Snowden, Jonathan Haidt, Naomi Klein, Kehinde Andrews, Adam Curtis and Vandana Shiva.
🎙️ Subscribe to Luminary at apple.co/russell 🎙️
Watch the #UnderTheSkin KZbin Playlist:
• Under The Skin Podcast
______________________________________________________________
Elites are taking over! Our only hope is to form our own. To learn more, join my cartel below and get weekly bulletins too incendiary for anything but your private inbox.
*not a euphemism
www.russellbrand.com/join
Are you interested in more video like this? I release videos EVERYDAY on KZbin (admit it, you enjoyed watching this one...).
Click the link below to subscribe below to my KZbin Channel - don't forget to turn on that notification bell 🔔
kzbin.info...
______________________________________________________________
SEE ME LIVE! Check out my live events and buy tickets here:
📅 www.russellbrand.com/live-dates/
🎧 My Audible Original, ‘Revelation', is out NOW!
US: adbl.co/revelation 🇺🇸
UK: adbl.co/revelationuk 🇬🇧
AU: adbl.co/revelationau 🇦🇺
CA: adbl.co/revelationca 🇨🇦
For meditation and breath work, subscribe to my side-channel:
kzbin.info...
______________________________________________________________
Follow me here:
Instagram:
/ russellbrand
Twitter:
/ rustyrockets
KZbin:
kzbin.info...
Facebook:
/ russellbrand
My Website:
www.russellbrand.com/
Join the Community:
www.russellbrand.com/join
#CandaceOwens #RussellBrand #UnderTheSkin

[@RussellBrand]

Hey! 👋 Thanks for watching (and scrolling down to read this…). If you'd like to see to the rest of this podcast with Candace Owens then click on the link below to watch on KZbin (or listen on Apple Podcasts). kzbin.info/www/bejne/fF6yln6MZq-Nfas apple.co/russell

[@nedludd3641]

8 mins? ....is that all?

[@jc3115]

Candace is number one. She understands real freedoms and real law

[@crazylazyadhd4692]

@@kymike155 it’s the one from 2/3 years ago, I only watched it last month

[@seraph6758]

Money buys policy. Everything else is diluted. American capitalism is just communism for everyone but the mega rich.

[@aculosgolden6204]

WAY DOWN BELOW THE OCEAN

[@TomiArayomi]

I don’t agree with Russell but I massively respect him for his desire to respectfully debate with people with whom he doesn’t agree!

[@andrewteece3496]

I think that's ultimately how progress in society is made. He's brave to do that.

[@babayoga4712]

I feel the same way.

[@Elephantsss]

He was not at all respectful in this debate ,

[@yoba6037]

@@andrewteece3496 Russell is the last real leftist, essentially.

[@dreyes1476]

The rich pay 85% of our taxes only because they make more money. It doesn’t mean they pay a higher percentage than the poor!

[@babyyeti2540]

I love how fast paced and combative this was, while still remaining friendly and even jovial at times.

[@chriswood1821]

The entire podcast is fantastic. They have an incredible chemistry.

[@chubbyjubjub3593]

My thoughts exactly!

[@alisagilboy6012]

They both have supercharged processors. Few people process AND organize information as quickly as Russell and even fewer are capable of articulating their positions with such certainty and clarity. Even when Russell is unsettled on his position about an idea, he is sure of and comfortable with his uncertainty - rare intellectual courage.

[@drakke125Channel]

we used to have debates like this during Ronald Reagan's time when Repubs and Dems were still able to be mature and can take wholesome criticisms and friendly banter with each other. Eventually it became more of a 'game' that adults play , a stupid passive aggressive game in polarized politics.

[@Kiara_Wrestler]

Yes it's so refreshing

[@c.s.m.k5737]

Wow this is gold. Totally love the open, honest and riveting conversation. Zero malice. We need more debates like this.

[@rodneypennington1086]

She is making up numbers

[@tyrone1544]

@@rodneypennington1086 like a lonely homosexual like you has a clue.

[@zatoichi4449]

@@rodneypennington1086 You're making up reality.

[@oui2611]

I think Russel is ahead of his time and there's people to yet understand his views because of this.

[@gregjones1776]

100% agree

[@lilitdesign]

I love Candace so much , big fan, I like her more than I like Russell but here i have to say that she is talking about what we are currently as humans , and she is right , whereas Russell is talking about WHAT WE CAN BE as humans , the potential in us to be not just like animals self centered and focused on survival and ego but much more altruistic Chr8st like Buddha like state , I don't think Candace has the spiritual depth to see where he is coming from

[@user-tj5di9kv1u]

“When I was poor and complained about inequality they said I was bitter; now that I'm rich and I complain about inequality they say I'm a hypocrite. I'm beginning to think they just don't want to talk about inequality.” Russell Brand

[@jocelyncams1826]

Obviously there is no inequality if a poor man can become rich 🤷‍♀️

[@donaldvanvliet9039]

@@jocelyncams1826 yeah, because all poor people don’t work hard enough…

[@jocelyncams1826]

@@donaldvanvliet9039 uhm I’m poor as fuck. But this country gives many opportunities. Don’t act like it doesn’t.

[@jocelyncams1826]

@@donaldvanvliet9039 maybe I should just delete the last sentence since that’s all you took from it

[@donaldvanvliet9039]

@@jocelyncams1826 yeah that last sentence was dumb as hell. This country used to have a substantial middle class, but that has been dissappearing over the last 20 years. That there are still people who have the american dream, doesn’t change the bigger picture.

[@duckque]

They respectfully agreed to disagree, without escalating things turning them into hate. We need to see more of this and less of the heated/one sided arguments that MSM shove down our throats.

[@whitematthew79]

Facts

[@melissagray8138]

Exactly!

[@chexmix0101]

Funny how you “forgot” to mention fox….

[@brobroski3441]

@@chexmix0101 Fox is no shining example, but I've definitely seen more of the "I'm going to raise my voice and drown you out until you stop talking" from the other examples mentioned. It is a problem all mainstream media shares, but it is more prevalent on the stations that wish to further censor people.

[@jeffhowland7169]

@@brobroski3441 Absolutely! Right on! Exactamundo!

[@ajhill6655]

This was absolutely wonderful debate and this is how we can come together with respect and still disagree.

[@Lukeydookee]

Engaging stuff as always from Russell. So far, I've not heard Russell explain how a societal structure can be organised that would "encourage" people to be more compassionate. Also, systems of encouragement could easily become coercive powers, and you cannot coerce someone to be compassionate, it must be a voluntary impulse,

[@zoeh.2361]

Exactly. We cannot. I would argue that Candace’s solution is the one that comes closest to this: when the government stays out of our hair and our money, we are more likely to give.

[@indepthdiscussion7670]

Candace answered him correctly that such structure is not in the government. That structure that "encourages" compassion is not in the realm of politics or economics but in the church.

[@southerngirl300]

@@indepthdiscussion7670 and if you are not a christian, then where does one go?

[@indepthdiscussion7670]

@@southerngirl300there are motivational speakers, life coaching seminars - people like Tony Robbins. (Church is still the easiest though because its available and free every Sunday.) But wherever you get your motivation though, it has to be freely sought and not imposed, otherwise it's no longer compassion but coercion.

[@thegmanns]

People would have to at their core choose to do right under a few hard core ethical laws. Off the top of my head one would be don’t push your will onto another.

[@Malick333]

I like watching debates like this where both people actually like each other regardless if they strongly disagree. Totally different vibe than two people with disdain bludgeoning each other back and forth!

[@cornfusedatbest6693]

Indeed, like those we pay to act like children on the worlds largest playground. People seem to forget that we can agree to disagree and still make progress.

[@charliedawn27]

@@cornfusedatbest6693 a lot of his guests act like children when they aren’t speaking to him, it’s incredibly frustrating actually

[@Malick333]

@@charliedawn27 I would enjoy seeing mature children debating adults acting like immature children. 😂

[@JoeGamer81]

They like each other because they’re in business together. There’s no substance to this debate, and there’s not meant to be. This exists so KZbin “centrists” and right-wingers can pretend their politics are valid, meanwhile they both build their audiences and rake in the money.

[@Malick333]

@@JoeGamer81 didn’t Russel say this was an excerpt to a longer conversation? And yes I don’t consider it a proper debate, more of a conversation with elements of debating.

[@ThatLad685]

This is literally one of the greatest debates I’ve seen simply because of how civilized it was. I didn’t leave this debate feeling angry at anybody which is amazing.

[@3vwhat3r]

don't get mad. watch more debates

[@wendydisanto]

I felt the same way.

[@davidanglin7177]

Tuning out. Narcissism abounds from RB

[@carypeterson9554]

Really…watch Jordan Peterson debates.

[@ThatLad685]

@@carypeterson9554 trust me I’ve watched plenty, I actually really love Jordan Peterson. but even for as amazing of a speaker as he is it can become super frustrating to watch simply because the people he’s debating are totally unable to understand or even try to listen to his points many of the times. It’s almost like he’s talking to a wall.

[@zachkelly3682]

Freaking fantastic civilized debate. We need more of this!

[@boliussa]

so two brainless people having a civilised discussion meets your standard of being "freaking fantastic" and "we need more of this"

[@deannapendleton1821]

I love listening to both of you honestly - much respects and thanks to you both for what you are doing to highlight the real issues!

[@wkadalie]

Love listening to people that disagree respectfully.

[@Radec74]

being respectful when disagreeing, is what Free thinking is about.

[@douglasb.1203]

EXACTLY

[@eveoakley6270]

Yes, disagreeing without being disagreeable 🤝

[@diver7799]

Agreed.

[@acidbatherr]

Truly this is such a good argument I agree with both of them yet disagree. I think they are both free minded but are to self centered to actually become truly free thinking in their day to day life’s, but that’s what I see ;).

[@Millet_kidd203]

Unfortunately respect aint the truth ..and what russel says is the truth

[@andrewandkaryntoulson1803]

I hugely respect people who can argue different philosophy passionately without personally attacting each other. I'm am liking Russel more and more. I may not agree with everything he says but his open mindedness to engage with people of different world views is so bloody refreshing. Good on you mate.

[@JB-db4gf]

Yup.

[@kevin2640]

4th most prolific political thinker in the WORLD. I love the guy and I am conservative.

[@riverratrvr9225]

@@kevin2640 same here, I truly admire that.

[@humachine5226]

Excellent yes, I don't agree with him every step of the way but that's ok. We're human beings and that's a human trait, even family don't agree with eachother always.

[@Humanaut.]

@@kevin2640 i highly doubt your assessment. Fourth most prolific political thinker by which metrics? Who deemed him that?

[@Bardweiser]

Candace's point on the "natural market" was spot on. That basic supply vs demand drive is a cornerstone of human interactions, it's impossible to divorce this from the human condition whether you're bartering chickens for flour or paying cash for a new jacket. Where this comes into play with individualism is the belief that most individuals can develop some level of skill which is valuable enough to the marketplace for that individual to become successful. When enough individuals do this, they create more successful societies.

[@richardlang2445]

There are not many people who can match the absolute stream of conscious thought of a Russell Brand. Except Candace Owen. What a treasure this young woman is !!

[@SmilingCoyote82]

She's only a treasure to racists that only push half of the story.

[@marysalvi242]

@richardlang2445 Ah, I think it's the opposite & if you notice she took pretty much everything he said and as usual speaking rapidly (yeah he does also) using trigger words, "steal" & not sure if Russell finished his idea that they have a different definition of socialism. Oh yeah her using the word punish, punish people to yeah, have everyone pay a FAIR share percentage of their income in taxes. Not the same percentage, because that doesn't even make sense. Using her own example of feeding one's family first, for sure, though a family of 4 = to a family of 7 should not give out the same amount of food. Seems fair, makes common sense financially if not gasp, morally which yeah you don't have to have either one though wouldn't it be great at least to look at the gap and close it so it is FAIR TO ALL. low, middle, & rich folks.

[@AngelRodriguez-gw9hq]

I love how these two speak to each other like close friends who've had a couple beers and are just randomly chatting at like 0300

[@KristySki]

Because they both know that the other is welcome to their own opinions. Most people who debate these days, they don't think that way. It's their way, or no way.

[@redeemedbychrist456]

🙂

[@mariem8705]

This is what I envy. People who can debate, I can’t argue my points without stuttering or drawing a blank. But they are ready and fired up. I love it!

[@janessastrachan3682]

YESSSSS like there’s so much I know and want to say and learn about but formulating my words as elegantly as they do and not rambling or “drawing a blank” is so hard for me!

[@alexdionisio9360]

Yes.

[@newfreenayshaun6651]

Passion.

[@jordanhawk6287]

You can do it too! It just takes time to work on soothing our nervous system so it doesn’t get overwhelmed in the face of conflict or argument. It takes healing our traumatized systems (within our own body), then we can face different opinions and have healthy arguments safely. It’s hard! I still struggle and am working on it!

[@madisonsage8411]

You can do it! Once you know your argument style & your side of an argument inside and out!

[@markgauld9260]

Candace just handed RB a masterclass in debating intelligently and respectfully.

[@Lukeydookee]

Yes, I thought she handled it very comfortably. He seemed to unintentionally set her up to make consecutively strong arguments.

[@keithhinchcliffe5629]

Isn't that funny; I saw just the opposite. I guess we all see what we want to see.

[@Marc-io8qm]

@@keithhinchcliffe5629 how? He is emotional

[@keithhinchcliffe4377]

@@Marc-io8qm - You call it emotional, I call it passionate.

[@YeahNahMaybe947]

I don't think we watched the same video.

[@xEmmaLouiseee]

I love seeing a well thought out debate from intelligent and passionate people. What a breath of fresh air 🥹 Also I wonder if you guys have thought about Maslows Hierarchy of needs? Perhaps you did in the full interview. Anyway it suggests that in order for us to fulfil things like spiritual needs, first we must have our basic needs met - such as food, shelter, stability. So I think Candace is noticing that people whose basic needs and more are being met are then able to fulfil their desire to give to others - as this is a more complex need and sits further up the hierarchy.

[@AuroMetalSaurus]

"I hope we remain respectful" *2 mins later: "ARE YOU MENTAL!" One of the most adversarial interviews I've seen Russell in since the Paxo one.

[@garyschollmeier779]

Yeah I almost clicked off after that

[@sdalt001]

That part was funny. I get your point. It feels more like a British euphemism, than an insult.

[@garyschollmeier779]

@@sdalt001 I mean, I'm British and it's disrespectful even if not necessarily a direct insult.

[@martindewhurst2485]

@@sdalt001 Yeah, it is a pretty common thing to say here in Britain; it’s not meant to be taken quite as literally as it might be stateside

[@CarlaFaccina]

hahahaha its true!! "are you mental??""

[@domnfg]

I gained a new respect for Russell recently. He’s a free thinker and doesn’t follow the Hollywood rules.

[@Waltonslots]

He also was wrong about his facts

[@tomstricklin3409]

@@Waltonslots yeah, he’s still chained to hollyweird.

[@positivevibezonly5611]

I'm a free thinker

[@Dominian1]

I always loved his comedy and then I started binging his videos of the recent months. What an absolut chad. He really does challenge anyone, doesn't kowtow to any existing order and speaks from the people's heart. He even likes Donald Trump for the right reasons and hates him for the right reasons, too. He's so crazy, that in these crazy times he's the only normal person left to speak truth to the people.

[@DVanShu]

The Goerge Soros (funds against Sanatan Dharma) and Jeff Bezos both haven't paid tax 2years..

[@chuckvolks754]

More of you two debating! I am more on Candice’s side of this but I like hearing reasonable debate! Maybe if there was more of this people wouldn’t be so far apart!

[@craigritchie3665]

Open and honest and respectful debate between people who disagree. Who knew it was possible.

[@stevenart1924]

"Don't look at me with your fact face" had me crying! They enjoyed this debate, it was clear to see! And I enjoyed watching! Well done to both!

[@gocy]

and the fact was wrong. the 1% pays ≈ 40% of all taxes. :)

[@bobkiaie]

@@gocy she said top 10% pay 85%. I don’t know what she’s going off of but I know in 2017 the top 10 paid 71.4% of all taxes

[@roryluukas2703]

@@bobkiaie That is completely wrong...

[@benc2972]

You guys still don't understand that statistical data is made to fit your particular narrative? How stupid can you be?

[@officiallydenise]

@@benc2972 are you not aware that the more people make the more they pay in taxes? ?

[@ArminJohansson]

Even while passionately disagreeing, Russel and Candace aren't attacking each other. There's a foundation of well-meaning, and a dash of playfulness in the heat of the debate, it's very encouraging.

[@twobobruss]

Which translates as “passive aggressive”

[@mikethewise2000]

@@twobobruss There is no such thing as passive-aggressive in a debate. Because there is no aggression to be seen here. You strongly disagree with someone, you're hashing it out with words. It's not an argument, it's not personal. That's the biggest thing young people are not taught these days or understand. We can disagree for hours, speak loudly, talk over each other ect. But if it doesn't break down into a real confrontation, in the end, you show respect, smile, and shake hands then go grab a drink together.

[@twobobruss]

@@mikethewise2000 K

[@kellifranklin4432]

Candace just waits to attack people on Twitter

[@IzzyBizzyBooBoo]

@@kellifranklin4432 At least she doesn't shriek and low key try to intimidate the smaller bodied people in the room like Russell does.

[@lesco09418]

Kudos to anyone who dares to debate Candace. She's an absolute beast! Loved this!

[@andrewright7947]

You do realize Candice is con? She changed her whole perspective some years back to gain fame. Go back over 10 years, and she's saying the complete opposite of what she's saying now. She even sued for racial discrimination got paid, and now claims racism doesn't exist all for likes!

[@SmilingCoyote82]

She's a racist that's learned how to enrich herself by weaponizing misinformation. Nothing more.

[@janschinsky1087]

Candance has class and brains .

[@sgeine]

She’s pretty basic. Her arguments are shallow and scripted

[@susieq9628]

We need more Russell brands in the world who can talk to people they disagree with and have respectable civil debate without labeling them or dismissing them before hearing them

[@fadenmac8092]

Although I believe he let himself get baited by Candice's rehearsed controversial talking points. This interview seemed to go off the rails bc Russell believed Candice was being truthful, instead of continuing a conservative character she plays in the media.

[@susieq9628]

@@fadenmac8092 I think Candace is being truthful. Not sure what you mean by her playing a character? She believes what she says wholeheartedly and is true to herself.

[@Steven13Neu]

Absolutely. I totally agree with Candices point and I appreciate both of their passions. Russell’s ability to have a debate with someone that thinks totally opposite is what the world needs to be able to do. Being able to have respectful debates is what is missing, particularly in politics. Everyone is so quick to call everyone else names or argue when their views don’t match their own.

[@cfish0031]

Again with people saying respectfully he debated. Saying "Are you mental?" is not respectfully debating.. I don't understand.

[@susieq9628]

@@cfish0031 I think overall conservatives are just happy to be given a platform to share ideas instead of being cxl, blocked, or dismissed before they’re heard. It’s refreshing to see him sit down and discuss things with people he may disagree with because he wants to understand. Anymore it’s like the other side is afraid of even hearing ideas and opinions they disagree with

[@flynnduncan6345]

Russels got an amazing way of nearly losing his shit but then cracks a joke and immediately cools the situation down before he does it again. Cracks me up

[@nomorefaith4988]

Hahaha, yeah he got a little aggressive on that one, that pen being thrown down represented the gauntlet...after which he giggled realising in his mind that candice would probably stove his head in! (Joking 😉)

[@mrpickles2170]

Passion!

[@mynameistwohawks]

He was looking to get Candace riled up but she’s too good for him and can out express herself with a calm demeanour, much better than Russell. He just babbles bs.

[@WHITELIONNYC]

@@mynameistwohawks I just read some babbled bs. Yours.

[@E9EXPO]

There are videos on Yt that analyze the way he does this.

[@MarkRogersVOCFB]

Candace is sharp. More importantly, she's right.

[@SmilingCoyote82]

You spelled "dangerous " incorrectly. She also conveniently leaves out any part of the story that doesn't fit her narrative.

[@craigbatchelor6869]

No she wrong.

[@tommydimopoulos6484]

Candace is a national treasure. And she kicked Russell's butt. She tells facts. He talks "feelings".

[@SmilingCoyote82]

She's a racist that's pushing a narrative based on misinformation. It's also hilarious hearing her rail against privilege, while living in privilege afforded by her right wing puppeteers.

[@stephenvonmann6268]

I loved that you two could disagree, yet still be respectful of each other. We need more of that!

[@clopez6768]

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@tancosta1286]

This is a healrhy conversation with respect for eachothers opinion even if they dont agree, perfect dinner date 2

[@robertmoradi7996]

@@clopez6768 where is j lo?

[@davewaldon7093]

He was an ass. He was angry and disrespectful

[@joshboggs8202]

“Don’t look at me with that’s a fact face” lmao. Great line. Both of you are great

[@Ausare911]

Which is especially funny when what she is saying is not fact, which is Cadence in a nutshell. What makes it worse is she's aware of of the FACT that it isn't fact when saying it. Maybe if you include the top 10% of earners will you get close to 70ish percent of all federal taxes but this includes people in the $150,000 range which is not opulent wealth.

[@eddieyoung6845]

@@Ausare911 how is that not still rich people paying all the tax? 150,000 a year is well above the average salary. If her figures include these individuals, that’s still the rich paying the majority of the tax

[@MP-db9sw]

@@eddieyoung6845 if youd sincerely like to learn more on the topic then search "Leaked IRS documents reveal the rich pay pay less taxes" If you cant find it then I will find specific articles and post their titles.

[@blksbth1]

@@Ausare911 $150,000 is not "opulent wealth"? So, you are saying she is not being factual while applying your own definition to the word "rich"? I see that 25% of the country pays about 85% of the taxes...and that 25% at the lowest income level starts at about $80k. Maybe that's not "rich" in your world but that's a LOT of money in mine.

[@blksbth1]

@@MP-db9sw Well if it's a recently leaked document then you can hardly blame Candace for using data that has been a lot more commonplace and consistent in terms of the argument she is making.

[@TrimTrimmer]

The thing is, being rich and being happy are two different things. People should be aiming for happiness. Happiness doesn’t need wealth and wealth doesn’t bring happiness. The best moments in life are your priceless achievements, you can’t buy them and the memory doesn’t fade.

[@davidclayton6521]

I love her I think she is what we need leading this country

[@capt.ricksparrow255]

Just the fact that dialogue is open and honest makes this very legitimate. I dont agree w Russels brand of politics most of the time as i am a conservative, but dialogue and openess makes us stronger. Rallies us. Makes us think. Respect one another. Makes our world stronger.

[@SmallGuyonTop]

Not sure you could call it "honest". That is a strange word to use about a debate. Each side has a history of developing their ideals and here they are just trying to win. That is a far cry from "honest". Debates are not honest, but they can be fair or unfair.

[@memes3751]

Republicans in general aren’t honest lol

[@berno8535]

@@memes3751 That's quite the strong statement, as you insinuate that democrats aren't as dishonest themselves. And, if you believe that, you are a fool.

[@memes3751]

@@berno8535 ik someone in here was going to give me a both are bad argument and my answer is yes BOTH parties are terrible but the republicans are on another level of awful

[@dread1262]

U can unsubcribe now. Go back to your hole

[@DPhasely]

I disagree with Russell on these issues but he's respectful to Candace unlike other debaters have been with her.

[@Lily-hy1vi]

he literally asked her if she was mental

[@DPhasely]

@@Lily-hy1vi haha..yeah, but that was tame compared to what she's been called before.

[@dw1002]

@@copperstillco Take everything from Bezos except for a reasonable stipend and tax Amazon into the ground is pretty mental if you understand economics at all.

[@jcrofficial4309]

@@dw1002 Not only that, but tax them to the ground and more of their entry positions become exactly minimum wage, jobs get cut, there's less growth that the earned money from taxes would stagnate. You can either play the short quick money game or the long big money game and as long as Amazon keeps growing as a business, the US economy actually grows from that. You're mental to think that taxing businesses that have helped create jobs around the world that benefits the mainland economy just to feed some homeless guy is going to be of help to the overarching picture. Going over the edge might cause an avalanche of problems that it starts cascading on the middle class and then on the lower class.

[@ogi1337]

@@jcrofficial4309 the US economy is built on lies, it's funny how people don't get that.

[@KerryGallagher-cj9gq]

Wow, I wondered what would happen if two of my favorite commentators went head to head. And there it is, intelligent and respectful debate. It's possible.

[@jmegeez2095]

I sure liked this one. Love listening to every minute. Watched the long discussion.Candace has a one up on you Russ. Love your utopian views but most humans (especially these days) can't achieve it. Please have another discussion soon

[@dynomantar9733]

I never would have guessed Russell Brand would grow up to be a well-rounded, informed man, working to spread awareness on government corruption and other important, controversial issues. Just pet the fuzzy wall, right?

[@enosger]

Why not, this is the problem, we live in a world of prejudice where a man can’t have a view point because he looks or does certain things that people feel don’t relate to his view point.

[@Nick-ce6lt]

​@@enosger because his whole thing used to be right wing = evil. He has changed a lot in the last decade and now it's awesome to watch his opinion even if I don't agree with his perspective.

[@tracycampbell740]

Russel was always well informed and highly touched by the struggles of humanity which is probably what kept him blurring it out with his chosen aids, hard living in this world as an empath when all around you see the nastiness of human behaviour.

[@dynomantar9733]

@@enosger I think you missed the point. Entirely. The whole point of my comment was that I'm happy to see Russell has found the proper outlet to reveal to the world a magnificent side of himself that he did well to keep separate from his earlier career as a comedian. And that i am thankful for him doing so, as i appreciate his frame of reference and the lighter perspective he brings to the very serious topics discussed on this channel. However, i do appreciate you judging me and dismissing my viewpoint because you didn't understand it. Maybe you're the problem?

[@theomistro3437]

@@dynomantar9733 RB is a self-promoting opportunist. He saw that the wind was turning so he changed his tack.

[@F1amingDeath]

We really should talk to people who we disagree with more often. The key is for both involved to come away with a little bit of learning

[@tinagipson6210]

I agree

[@bettermanchannel770]

Testing our boundaries so we can extend them

[@ericgrabowski_pro-video-editor]

If you don't argue with me I don't know what I think. So If we argue, I say thank you. Because by your taking of a different point of view, I understand what I mean, so I can't get rid of you. -Alan Watts I think Russel learned more than Candace in this debate. I think Russel actually agrees with her more than he lets on.

[@bettermanchannel770]

@@ericgrabowski_pro-video-editor most likely...Alan watts, great thinker.

[@gro14]

Today’s schools dont teach this because they only believe in one (leftist) right. In medicine its pharma’s right. They no longer honour truth, and that’s catastrophic

[@markmoretti9122]

Brand answered it, he doesn't feel good when he just lives for himself, so he feels better when he helps others. That's how it's done.

[@kimsentman9255]

Great stuff- exactly how conversations/ debates should work. I do think Candace got you today RB. 😉

[@jankogo]

Russel: "We are going to try to have a civil conversation." Later: "Are you mental?" LOL!

[@mercedezz]

Lmao 🤣

[@DrewArtist]

That’s when I stopped listening. It’s same gibberish collectivist spew. Nothing enlightening at all.

[@ericcarter2020]

Russell show he can't have a civil conversation! Your type of junkie smoking weed!

[@windyduck123]

@Honest Addict Post ban 2 I used the same phrase in dialogue with a Mr Brand supporter. He turned me on for bullying i recieved a 30 ban for it. I can't help wondering why it's okay for Mr Brand to say are you mental, but the platform I was listening to it on Facebook banned me. Is it because I'm just a common nobody?

[@dread1262]

@Gary Snow that is completely idiotic. Probably the dumbest comment I've seen in awhile. Good job

[@van_creative]

The ability to have an open dialogue is what I call progress

[@smcb2202]

I love this kind of debate because it helps me see both sides and make a more informed decision

[@ali68b]

Well actually, it’s what we used to do all the time back in the day….debate, agree to disagree, shake hands and have a beer together.

[@emessem]

It came across as a respectful debate between an ideologist and a realist. Sadly, we don't live in an ideal world.

[@emessem]

Ah.....thank you for your response, and for the offer to communicate via a capital raising texting platform. 'Money talks', depending on how one phrases it. I'll keep watching your stuff, I enjoy creative wordplay, comedy and opinion. Many thanks

[@te2952]

I thought Candace won that debate hands down. She was absolutely correct. I grew up poor by the way, raised by a single mom. I have lived long enough to know how the world works. I put myself through college at age 34 sacrificed a lot by doing it too. I paid for my own education too. If people have worked hard to be successful, they have earned it by hard work. It's not fair to those that have worked their asses off for it just to be taxed more to help everyone. If you want to be successful financially, you can do it all by yourself. I did. I also help a lot of people as well. Taxing the rich more will not make a difference. They provide jobs, and without jobs everyone will be poor. Candace explained it well. Socialism has been tried in history, go study what a failure it has always been. Some of us that are older than the both of you, know it. Every young person has no idea how that feels trying to survive it, and that is where we are headed off of a cliff if you elect a socialist or Biden. Just being honest. Talk to someone who has been through it, before you push for it.

[@leighparr7961]

We must have watched different debates as Russell won hands down. She had nothing to say except expousing the same old greed and bs, that's what the matrix you're born into (but you don't even know it) does, it makes you a cog in a machine. Find out how currency creation works in a fiat fractional reserve banking system, the dice are loaded and the rich stay rich and generally the poor stay poor. If you truly believe that this current nightmare is taking you anywhere but to abject poverty you're uninformed. Wait till programmed cbdc is introduced and cash is withdrawn. The fact some of us older than you know is that it's the fundamental system which is flawed and corrupt it doesn't matter which ideology you apply, the WEF are correct we need to build back better just not how they believe.

[@MonkeyDIvan]

I genuinely pity you if that is your world view. What a weak-minded, naive outlook on society, I suggest you lay off the conservative rabbithole and whatever bullshit narrative they try and push down your throat. Here's a thought experiment, a fairly simple one to highlight the absurdity of your understanding about the world: compare a child that is born in Africa to one that is born in Scandinavia. Predict me their future, and once you've done so, explain the reasons one is statistically more likely going to live a successful life compared to the other (i.e. better health, better education, better work opportunities). Once you've done that, explain what the fundamental causes of those differences are.

[@MomentOfTruthWithAmiChenBonus]

I worked hard too, starting at 14, but I also know others did not come from a stable, if single-parent household, but have been abused, and beaten down by parents, and by life. I am happy to help them. I have enough. I worked hard. My husband works hard, We are happy to share too.

[@jwallaby7895]

Keep your hard earned money. I think russel is targeting billionaires only. But I think both are missing the point that human society needs to create a new economic/fiat system. We can't GO BACK to something that hasn't worked before. But there is always a way forward. And this system does have ingrained issues that are not going anywhere. It actually REQUIRES inequity to function and assign value to the dollar. It's a built in flaw. It needs to change.

[@aprilperkins3267]

She lied. How did she win? Candace owens needs to be held accountable for lying, she said over %85 and then follows by saying that's a fact arrogantly when here is the actual facts. " According to a 2021 White House study, the wealthiest 400 billionaire families in the US paid an average federal individual tax rate of just 8.2 percent. For comparison, the average American taxpayer in the same year paid 13 percent." Please study before you speak inadequately and act as if you know more when you clearly don't..... I'm surprised more people haven't pointed this out, shear ignorance. Please stop pretending you know things you don't. Poor people pay more taxes than rich. Rich people are known for avoiding taxes that's why russel said "that's a fact? " Cause he knew that was off.. he should have digged his heals in more cause he easily could out smart her.

[@BluxitoJrz]

Russell: “ I hope we were respectful” Also Russell: “ARE YOU MENTAL” ❤️❤️love it

[@bobs9242]

Hypocrisy

[@jarrodhill9149]

@@bobs9242 agreed.. Russell douchecanoe Brand has a 20 million networth, why wont he practice what he is preaching???? Oh wait I know why. Because the disenfranchised look up to him and see a humble Englishman that isnt a complete charlatan, they are viewing these podcasts thus increasing his networth further.

[@joaofernandes2827]

@@bobs9242 " I hope ... "

[@loreforone924]

NOT respectful, but leftists rarely are.

[@loreforone924]

@@jarrodhill9149 a rich "arse."

[@jaykob2482]

Russell: "Hopefully, we remain respectful and light and kind with one another". Russell (to Candice): "Are you mental?!" Me: 😂🤣

[@Pari_Pixie]

Candice is absolutely maddening. 🤣 It didn’t surprise me that he lost it in that moment. But I did laugh. 😂

[@vin2e]

Lmao yeah he did go over the top here. I like both of them, but I think Russ lost his cool.

[@biggstang6732]

@@Pari_Pixie why is she maddening?

[@Whitey73192]

@@biggstang6732 she doesn’t even believe in climate change

[@biggstang6732]

@@Whitey73192 yes she does. The climate is always changing, what she doesn’t believe in is the politicized climate change. Like when Alexandria ocasio Cortez claimed the world is going to end in 12 years.

[@thembimthembu9461]

Russell = Spiritual point of view Candice = Worldly point of view Great debate guys, I’m with Russell on this one ✨

[@stevenmccormack6263]

Really

[@66Minna]

It sure gives much more to listen to a convo with disagrements. Loved it! This is how we expand our minds. Not stay in a lazy, boring bubble that shrinks our brains down. Good thing u tough enough to challenge yourself n others. More of this! Cus.. its educating us all out of the narratives n helps us to ask new questions. All info needs to be chewed, alternative n left to right.

[@jasondejong3062]

There needs to be more of this kind of dialogue in the world, to just hear each others side of the story without yelling at the person! Well done to the both of you!

[@vladim73]

Absolutely 💯 and both Candace and Russell did a wonderful job 👏 except for Russell being a bit more impatient and thus interrupting the lady more than necessary 😀 to put it mildly.

[@lindseysenften7643]

He was way to over the top.

[@darrenbills7401]

As Russell shouts “are you mental?” Lol

[@gordo1230]

This looks like a civil division (old school) Nowandays its more MINCED than just devided

[@waynegretzky3895]

Socialism now that sounds good.

[@connorstansfield6461]

Desperately yearning for anyone in my life to be intellectual and open enough to have this level of conversation. 90% of people I know would shut down these arguments in a heartbeat out of sheer discomfort of complexity. Great discussion, very respectful and well done both Russell and Candace.

[@peterbyrne3228]

You need new friends

[@mz.Karynthings]

I’m really glad I found your channel. I really love your views and content

[@ktall6749]

Such a breath of fresh air to see a civilized debate. Russel states the value of compassion but it is not the role of government to dictate compassion. Compassion falls within the realm of the individual, parents, religion, culture and society in general. Compassion is a inherent w/i individuals and is a choice. Government can dictate all day long but if a person doesn't comprehend the inherent humanity of compassion, they will not show compassion.

[@mattepstein1299]

This is how debates should be. Even when it gets energized there’s still a mutual respect there. Both have great points of view.

[@CarbageMan]

It's not possible, of course, but I got this weird vision of them having dinner after debating, and concluding the evening with mad lovemaking.

[@ffjsb]

The persons debating should actually know what the fuck they're talking about and not spout off a bunch a bullshit that's not true. Russell I'm looking at you...

[@majesticgrunt1004]

@@ffjsb how can you even say that? And I can promise he's not even aware of you, so keep on looking. It's in your hands, do some unbiased research on your phone sometime (or your computer).

[@ffjsb]

@@majesticgrunt1004 Because it's a FACT. I actually DID look it up. People like Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, and Steve Jobs made their billions THEMSELVES. You should actually look up this shit yourself so you don't look so ignorant.

[@koraykirik9448]

I laughed at your sir name.

[@ciarajones4970]

"Don't look at me with that's fact face" 😂 Honestly love Candace and Russell's mind sets. I see myself as in-between because I don't think everyone can get out of the poor trap, however I do believe some can take the steps to get out of it. I grew up extremely poor, and unless you take the first steps to help yourself, in most cases you never leave the poor trap.

[@sewvintage6955]

I enjoy both of their perspectives so it’s interesting to watch this

[@lilianbrendlinger3290]

I believe no one should ever, ever be so poor that they cannot afford a home, food, and education. These are inalienable human rights

[@darsnider7429]

@@lilianbrendlinger3290 they are not, if you were dropped into an alternate earth with everything the same, would a house, food and a teacher appear, those cost money and/or effort to create and produce, the only right a human has is to speak, protect himself and his pursuit of happiness and survival as long as they don't damage someone else ability to do the same, anyone who espouses what you just said is delusional and should never have an modicum of power to determine anything in society

[@ciarajones4970]

@@darsnider7429 agreed. Some people can't even manage money either, give a poor crack addict lots of money and a house and most likely the money will be spent on drugs and the house will be wrecked. The best help anyone can get is guidance and life lessons to help them function in society. Money doesn't solve everything.

[@backyardbuck6362]

It's called personal responsibility and it got me out of the paycheck to paycheck poor house. I'm not rich but I'm not paycheck to paycheck anymore. .

[@DemonetisedZone]

On a human level it is difficult to like materialistic people. I know ppl like this and whenever i talk with them i usually come away thinking "there is something mising there"

[@bartdrennon1764]

I only watched to see once and for all which one could talk the fastest and longest without taking a breath. They are both remarkably quick-witted.

[@laurahugillofficial]

Russell Brand: “Hopefully we’ll be kind and civil.” Also Russell Brand: “ARE YOU MENTAL?!”

[@pokapokadot9859]

Correct first one to throw an insult. Of course

[@BringDHouseDown]

@@pokapokadot9859 I mean, it's a British thing, are you mental is a very civilized and watered down version of saying are you crazy. If you want to keep it civil you say mental, if you want to insult you'd say crazy or insane, or at least that's my take on it.

[@dicklindell948]

This Fk head is rich, was he born rich?

[@stefonpalinic5559]

@@dicklindell948 u are not rich and will never be lol

[@BringDHouseDown]

@Xhade Brinsbane he did cut her off a few times

[@louislanett154]

THIS is an Adult conversation. They both Let each other speak ,and speak their points without interruption

[@richardshultz6834]

I guess we watched diffrent videos

[@stefcep]

Are you kidding? Russel kept trying to bully her and even asked if she was mental. Candace schooled him anyway. She is on a different intellectual plane to Russel.

[@AdamantMindset]

insert spiderman james gif *you serious?*

[@homelander7060]

@@richardshultz6834 my thoughts exactly

[@jonathanrolfsen4656]

At 3:43, she lit me up,,, she realizes Amazon often pays nothing in taxes right??? That was I guess the all-too-subtle point that Russell was trying to make...

[@danialbarnes8198]

You, candice owens, bill O'reilly, megan kelly and tucker carlson should open up your own news network

[@williamjamison2513]

This is how adults have conversations. You guys are the spitting image of how a conversation although not always agreeing, are able to stay mindful of the other. Well done

[@chopkong]

What do you mean? He's yelling, screaming, hostile, calling her "Mental", cutting her off each time she forms a thought, demeaning and condescending. That's NO WAY to have a conversation.

[@poom641]

Not adults, Russell is a child in a man's body who wants to literally steal most of successful people's money. He says it clear as a bell here. He's a fascist

[@williamjamison2513]

Have you seen the other side of this spectrum? A trump supporter vs a member of BLM? This my friend ,although very different, is a rational conversation. Or, as rational as two individuals on complete opposite sides of the spectrum can get.

[@chopkong]

@@williamjamison2513 There's nothing rational at all about what Russell is spewing. The more factual Candace gets, the more sentimental and emotional Russell gets. People on different sides of an issue can be very rational. But in this case, I only see one person being rational and it's not Russell. I appreciate that he had Candace on his show, but all I see him doing is having a major tantrum. I was really hoping for so much more. When he was with Ben Shapiro, he appeared to be more civil and contemplative and the dialogue was stimulating and conversational. This, however, was not a conversation.

[@williamjamison2513]

Let me say to all of you, I feel as though you think I’m trying to protect Russell or I’m on his side. Trust me when I tell you no one has more right, or republican views then myself. However, Russell is a brilliant person and I appreciate His ability to have a conversation. Now, I absolutely adore Candace. I truly believe Ben Schapiro for president and Candace Owens a as Vice But what I can’t understand is how y’all do not see the progress just in the fact that they are speaking and believe it or not they get along very well. So y’all relax

[@t9j6c6j51]

I wish every interviewer had Russell’s style. He gets people to relax enough to really say what they think.

[@andreagavey7484]

I love both of them - they are both right - 2 things can be right at the same time

[@goldwater1984]

I don't think that's a problem with Candace.

[@michagabo8819]

The Book of Truth. When things were at their very worst: 2 Suns, Cross in the sky, 2 comets will collide = don`t be afraid - repent, accept Lord`s Hand of Mercy. Scientists will say it was a global illusion. Beware - Jesus will never walk in flesh again. After WW3 - rise of the “ man of peace“ from the East = Antichrist - the most powerful, popular, charismatic and influential leader of all time. Many miracles will be attributed to him. He will imitate Jesus in every conceivable way. Don`t trust „pope“ Francis = the False Prophet - will seem to rise from the dead - will unite all Christian Churches and all Religions as one. One World Religion = the seat of the Antichrist. Benedict XVI is the last true pope - will be accused of a crime of which he is totally innocent. "Arab uprising will spark global unrest - Italy will trigger fall out" "The time for the schism in the Church is almost here and you must get prepared now"

[@Ljandj99]

Candace made the best points. seems like Russell learned a few things. I bet if they did another video together today they would agree a lot more since Russell has learned a lot in the last 4 years

[@TheSongbird3364]

I enjoyed the conversation and feel it's all about learning and growing from one another. Agreeing and disagreeing is alright, as long as you continue to keep an open mind, not all this censorship that's happening, as we all well know about. Bless you for a beautiful conversation, & please keep those coming sir.

[@paulellis8456]

So I lean towards conservative ways, first off mr. brand I do like listening to you. You don’t seam to lean to either or. You lean your own way. There are things I disagree with you on but I do believe you are a wonderful example of how these conversations should be. You two were respectful and laughed together at moments as if y’all were have fun. I think you’re a breath of fresh air.

[@rjfrantz539]

I do aswell. Ben Shapiro and Russell brand. Kinda keeps me balanced.

[@briani8785]

Agreed, I don’t entirely agree with everything he says. But on a few manners he helps me understand his views, and sometimes I even agree. Reminds me we want to solve similar problems, two sides hashing it out, gives us a better hope at a more comprehensive solution.

[@joshjonson2368]

@Harvey Zykowski politics is about group interests, because America is far less homogeneous now than it was back in the good old days, combined with how easy it's to form ideological blocs from selectively sought media. Every group is on alert to see if they're being undermined by another so there is no longer room for discussion but conflict.

[@joshjonson2368]

@Harvey Zykowski no, that only applies to people of your own group (ethnicity, culture). When it comes to perceived "aliens" only treaties exist to ensure both sides could coexist without running into conflicts of interest. You do not discuss ideas with aliens, disagree all you want but humans are tribal and put their heritage first. All others are merely pawns or competitors to put down.

[@waynegretzky3895]

Socialism now that sounds good.

[@rommulous9106]

"Don't look at me with that fact face" haha I don't agree with Russell but I'm very happy he's willing to have these conversations.

[@Pomiferous]

same here

[@danzeljohnson3341]

Lol she really got him with that. I’m glad he acknowledged it.

[@jconklin789]

He changed the topic real fast with that one

[@smashingartful]

Do you have a time stamp for that?

[@HammeredScrewed]

Here is the deal. The reason Russell's philosophy will not work is because we are playing against the house. Just like a casino, when playing against the house, no matter what game, table, you step up to it is heavily favored that you will lose. However, with Candice's approach the odds of winning are increased as the power is in your own hands. In the end, it was proof that two people with opposing views can communicate without the world blowing up. Even when Russell asked Candice if she is mental, she took it as it was given, without malice. But her line of every morning does he go to the neighbors to see if they have eaten breakfast since he is all about community was gold.

[@TheodanUK2000]

Love Candace and don’t think Russell is too bad either lol. Good to hear open and honest debate with two people who are clearly intelligent and able to argue their points without resorting to lies.

[@TheAlphaLegionnaire]

Russell is crazy. But goddamn it I love him. He’s the respectful adversary we all deserve. Class act.

[@afish4447]

@@thetruth9210 Tbf who is respectful to him...

[@michaelfschein2]

I'm not a Republican but I'm curious...Does Russell Brand plan to give up his considerable wealth? I wonder how many trusts and tax shelters he has.

[@Nuwebber]

I like this comment.

[@Butterflyneverlands]

I don’t know your definition of crazy but he’s more sane than the majority of people on this planet. Note: I don’t agree with everything he says but he makes a lot of sense than most.

[@oddindian1]

@@thetruth9210 So does the rest of the human race. One person does not need to be the example we all base the truth off of. That is the problem with the United States.

[@grewalke]

I share Candace’s views, but like Russell for doing this. He actually wants a real debate. Not just calling those he disagrees with evil.

[@yashicat5950]

she is clearly a bit evil though.

[@trerc1]

@@yashicat5950 please explain why??? Cause that's COMPLETELY NOT TRUE!!

[@cuban-being3087]

@@yashicat5950 You can't call her evil, she is a realist and he is an idealist, both want a better world but Candace understands there is only one practical way without creating a power structure that results in tyranny. There is no tyrannical government or structure since the dawn of man that has not been a result of collectivism, not one. Tyranny, is evil, Brand is a good person but he is breathtakingly naive.

[@calonord8508]

Nazis usually like it when people help normalize their viewpoints and make them mainstream, so that makes sense.

[@pietropes1322]

@@calonord8508 And here it is - the smooth brain with the 'But he or she is a Nazi' comment - watch the vid and learn how to debate people without using misplaced and moronic insults. Disagree with Candice by all means, I do on most topics, but leave the base insults for Twitter / Reddit.

[@alexanderaustin1082]

Love how they know where they stand in the conversation at any point

[@MitchellBahamas]

The sexual tension between two (unmatched) intellects is riveting to say the least lol. I love this shit 😌🙏🏽✊🏽

[@emmanuelfinance921]

Russell: “hopefully we can be respectful” Also Russell: “Are you mental” 🤣🤣🤣

[@shinske3564]

Hahah that's just his personality.

[@phiksit]

Well... she is... and an absolute grifter.

[@north_borne3673]

@@phiksit Seethe and Cope

[@carnelljones6602]

@@phiksit I agree

[@SarahR2D2]

🤣🤣🤣

[@davidwarburton2915]

In a million years, I never would have suspected Russell Brand could be a positive force for free speech and civil discourse. But he actually is.

[@antipropo461]

I'm frowning and blinking in puzzlement at your comment. Unless you have never in your life watched,listened to or read A SINGLE THING Brand has said it is beyond understanding how you could make that comment 🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@floof9789]

Curious why you’ve felt this way about him? He’s always been this way, watch his interview with westboro Baptist, he’s the same way

[@oddindian1]

Shows how out of touch we as people have become if we don't see the possibility for good in each and every individual. How far we have fallen that we dare think that judgement is a representation of reality. Life is a book with many chapters; the main character may be the antagonist is one chapter but by the end of the book be the redeemed hero of our story. I have come to realize that politics have become so self-centered that no change is going to take place, it's as if they never cared in the first place. For all we know that may be the reality that politicians fight to misdirect so they live lives the rest cannot. When she uses animality as an excuse for why the rich should stay rich I remember that this viewpoint is something only a human could come up with. For all of our history we have suffered our selfishness. War, poverty, ignorance, etc. all born from our selfishness. It's time to evolve into what we have the potential to become.

[@aguaman8471]

I predict you will see more of this. Both sides hate authoritarianism and it’s the path for us all to learn to get along again and start moving forward. Trust me both sides are sick of the stagnant situation government has forced us into.

[@danielcarter94]

@@aguaman8471 why is there always sides? Why can we not just be? Why are you forcing people to choose sides? Life is not that defined or binary. The “Natural Order” is really a kind of chaos.

[@pashiki5480]

"Hopefully we remain respectful, light and kind with each other" .............."Are you mental" ! Brilliant

[@TubeRJF]

"Don't you look at me with that "It's a fact!" face!" LMAO!!!

[@Coolbacon4434]

This is the BEAUTIFUL! We need more civil discussion with people on opposite sides, not to cancel them or to outright dismiss them! Bravo Russel!

[@Uhtredrag1080]

It's cool that he actually debates conservatives. That alone makes him better than 90% of the worlds leftist.

[@johnrambo6314]

So according to Owen's, the rich pays 85% of American taxes, and there still billionaires. and the rest of us pay only 15% of Americas taxes and still most of us live under the poverty line. What does that tell you? It tells you that the rich is making so much money that they could pay 85% of America's taxes and still be filthy stinking rich and there paying there employees so low that there struggle with paying 15% of the taxes. That horrible! That doesn't sound fair. Isn't it fair that the people could get together and vote on how much it cost to conduct business in America? Do you think the corporation should decide how much it cost to conduct business in America, or is it up to the people?. If you don't like it , you are free to do business somewhere else. And I say they owe more in taxes or make them pay there employees what there worth , either way stop being a puppet for the rich. Stop feeling sorry for them, there fine. The republican only hates socialism for the poor, they love it for the rich. Remember when the poor got together to fight the rich by saving game stop and ruining there stocks? All Republicans wanted to bail out the rich. Remember Trump trade war with China, he had to bail out failing farming companies with billions of dollars because of it. The rich still owe us from the last bail due to the economy collapsing under a republican president, Bush. Im not saying the democrats are all good, but you really need to stop voting republican.

[@michaellamont2605]

he's reaching across. I like him but in deep in Candices camp

[@Babs42]

@@johnrambo6314 America is about equal opportunity not equal outcomes which would be socialism or communism. Maybe you should stop berating those who are doing better than you? Voting only encourages those who wish to rule you. Government is organized crime and taxation is theft more specifically, extortion.

[@RicardoSilva-hk2er]

2:32 "Are you mental?" very civil...

[@ketotrucker3528]

Russell I don’t agree with all you say but the fact you’re having an open dialogue is such a beautiful thing. Thank you so much!!!

[@johnrambo6314]

So according to Owen's, the rich pays 85% of American taxes, and there still billionaires. and the rest of us pay only 15% of Americas taxes and still most of us live under the poverty line. What does that tell you? It tells you that the rich is making so much money that they could pay 85% of America's taxes and still be filthy stinking rich and there paying there employees so low that there struggle with paying 15% of the taxes. That horrible! That doesn't sound fair. Isn't it fair that the people could get together and vote on how much it cost to conduct business in America? Do you think the corporation should decide how much it cost to conduct business in America, or is it up to the people?. If you don't like it , you are free to do business somewhere else. And I say they owe more in taxes or make them pay there employees what there worth , either way stop being a puppet for the rich. Stop feeling sorry for them, there fine. The republican only hates socialism for the poor, they love it for the rich. Remember when the poor got together to fight the rich by saving game stop and ruining there stocks? All Republicans wanted to bail out the rich. Remember Trump trade war with China, he had to bail out failing farming companies with billions of dollars because of it. The rich still owe us from the last bail due to the economy collapsing under a republican president, Bush. Im not saying the democrats are all good, but you really need to stop voting republican.

[@unepomme1375]

@@johnrambo6314 taxes are benefic to big enterprises because while it make them pay more , it kills at the same times the smaller buisness and give them more and more monopoly. Maybe thats why all the big enterprises / banks vote socialist .

[@appleopps4540]

Russell: “Hopefully we can be kind to one anuva” 5 minutes later “Candace are you mental??!” 😂😂😂😂 this was a really great conversation with two people that I just so happen to disagree with most of the time but one thing about both Russel and Candace, they always peak interest with what they say. 👏🏽

[@steffiobergfell3584]

Eventhough it was passionate it was not aggressive and you could see some smile, that they was not hate or disrespect and that was what I liked. It’s good to have discussions without all this defensiveness or aggression you see nowadays.

[@stevenkatrencik1930]

It got a little heated but that happens when you’re passionate about something, overall it’s good to see two people having a civilized conversation. Thank you

[@johnrambo6314]

So according to Owen's, the rich pays 85% of American taxes, and there still billionaires. and the rest of us pay only 15% of Americas taxes and still most of us liveing under the poverty line. What does that tell you? It tells you that the rich is making so much money that they could pay 85% of America's taxes and still be filthy stinking rich and there paying there employees so low that there struggle with paying 15% of the taxes. That horrible! That doesn't sound fair. Isn't it fair that the people could get together and vote on how much it cost to conduct business in America? Do you think the corporation should decide how much it cost to conduct business in America, or is it up to the people?. If you don't like it , you are free to do business somewhere else. And I say they owe more in taxes or make them pay there employees what there worth , either way stop being a puppet for the rich. Stop feeling sorry for them, there fine. The republican only hates socialism for the poor, they love it for the rich. Remember when the poor got together to fight the rich by saving game stop and ruining there stocks? All Republicans wanted to bail out the rich. Remember Trump trade war with China, he had to bail out failing farming companies with billions of dollars because of it. The rich still owe us from the last bail due to the economy collapsing under a republican president, Bush. Im not saying the democrats are all good, but you really need to stop voting republican.

[@stevenkatrencik1930]

@@johnrambo6314 didnt read, lol

[@conan6939]

@@johnrambo6314 Yes but the reality is if you tax them more they'll just leave and set up shop elsewhere with a lower tax rate. This already does happen in a massive scale within the US system. Where for instance American call center multi billion dollar making businesses have set up in shop even near me in Ireland to take advantage of our 12% corprate tax rate. It's madness. You have an American company employing people from the Irish workplace to phone people in America.

[@waynegretzky3895]

Socialism now that sounds good.

[@johnrambo6314]

@@conan6939 exactly, they are already leaving after all bailouts and socialism we gave them, and they didn't even pay back. There just going to keep taking advantage if you let them. Let them leave. The ones that leave should pay even more taxes. You act like we need them. Dont let them scare you into making them richer and more powerful Did they make america rich or did america make them rich? Ill answer that one , america mad them rich. We have millions of entrepreneurs ready to take a billionaires place just to become a millionaire, because becoming an millionaire is incentive enough. We don't need billionaires. Do you think someone should be able to make so much money that they are able to manipulate the system? Do you think the people should decide how much it cost to conduct business in america or do you think the corporation and the rich should decide how much they owe to conduct business in America 🇺🇸?

[@speakerofsilentmajority8005]

I love Candace and Russel! This is what real life is about, discussing real issues, looking at all sides for a reasonable solutions…..

[@parasite368]

How could you love someone who tried to villify a woman who was shot and killed by lying about her.

[@dars1311]

eww

[@speakerofsilentmajority8005]

@@parasite368 The same way in which many in the world celebrate and support Nelson Mandela. Except Mandela was on a much greater scale. Shall I go on?

[@speakerofsilentmajority8005]

@@parasite368 Can you share a source as to when and with whom this occurred? Oddly (well not really) my quick google search only provided bias websites that spin her comments out of context to vilify her. How awful can she be with that many followers and why does Google promote algorithms to vilify her? So weird 🙄

[@parasite368]

@@speakerofsilentmajority8005 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWbIaYx9d9-LopY So easy to find

[@operationcastlebravo]

I love these two. Russell is also hilarious. "Don't look at me with 'that's a fact face'"

[@oneday455]

I was talking to a fellow from Cuba yesterday. He said in Cuba, people can get nothing at a store. There are no things in a store. Everything is transacted on the black market. If you want to look at Socialism, it is ripe for corruption, because everything is owned by the government. Look at what happened to Venezuela when Maduro came in with Socialism, bankruptcy. I'm on the side of individualism. Individualism doesn't preclude taxes and charity to help the less fortunate. It's better we help, than the government.

[@BrokTheLoneWolf]

I miss when people could honestly disagree and debate on good faith.

[@granillo5618]

There was never a time like that.

[@mattatr0n677]

This literally just happened.

[@GamerSix66]

Bruh same.

[@Laurence1987uk]

Candace is a grifter, she's simply learned talking points and is propped up by right wing donors, nothing good faith going on here lol

[@pepperdayjackpac4521]

@@Laurence1987uk hate hate hate, that’s all I hear from your comment

[@danielabrego5377]

I love the fact that Russell debates people form the other side of the aisle mad respect and ❤️! I hope he continues!

[@vladim73]

Me too, but a little less interesting would've helped a lot 😉 Plus, we all have to give it to Candace that she's a beautiful, intelligent and very kind person ❤ making some great points we all should take into consideration.

[@notacaulkhead]

I mean you can’t debate people who you agree with, that’s the nature of a debate...

[@emmamortiboy1520]

Russell isn't from 'the other side of the aisle'. He sits in the middle and listens then debates both sides to find middle ground.

[@bobbythorton7693]

@@emmamortiboy1520 i see him moving right wing one day with the left going so crazy and growing some balls, people think voting right wing makes you evil because their brain washed to think so... if you purely look at policies the right side crushes the left

[@bobbythorton7693]

@Brandon Marshall sounds like a excuse to vote for biden... and the disaster that follows

[@Stringr369]

I understand where both are coming from, however, I think one thing we can all agree is not good is a society where you can work hard, be dependable, good at managing your finances and the ladder is still out of reach. I feel we're fastly approaching this or already here.

[@carolphillips682]

Candice owned the debate lol

[@tehgslide]

Both made solid arguments But to Russ I would offer the quote. “When you expect people to live by the rules and regulations that you have placed upon yourself.. you may find yourself frustrated with everyone.” -T. Robbins

[@chestrockwell8328]

I dig the T. Robbins quote you shared; however Russell is way off from a solid point by wanting to take money/wealth/profits, call it what you will, from any company/person and have it in the hands of government (any government) which will use those funds to further suppress the citizenry.

[@carriedowney6833]

It would read better ‘ rules that you had not placed on yourself” I never see those espousing socialism, giving away all that they have. AOC, Bernie, et al

[@whatsup9260]

@@chestrockwell8328 goes both way but by default, private entity are more dangerous and i include fascist government who function like a private corporation.

[@chestrockwell8328]

@@whatsup9260 never has a private entity been as suppressive as a government unless in cahoots with a government. Prior to the massive power held by big tech, the biggest corporations never truly were, on their own, able suppress a citizenry.

[@uUuWolf16uUu]

I didn't know that contradicting himself in 2 sentences back to back and straight up lying is a good point... Hilarious.

[@joshuaforester]

My wife and I get into this all the time, the difference is what 'is' and what 'should be'. We agree on what 'should be', but she tends to refuse to accept what 'is'. And I love her for it. Love you, too, Russell!

[@cda6590]

"My wife disagrees with me on what reality is all the time and I love her for it because she challenges me and opens my mind to alternative ways of viewing the world" is what I too one day hope to have. Unless she's a Creationist. Fuck that noise.

[@alyssarogers8044]

Same with me and my fiance. I love seeing them debate. It's raw male and female action lol

[@cda6590]

@@michaleenoge861 The only real challenge she presents me with is that she is unreal and only exists within my mind .

[@leanbean8376]

@@cda6590 Really sad your wife needs to challenge you, if anything, shouldn't it be the other way around?? No, because you're a narcissist, always trying to gain control, til she has news for you, "sounds like!" Apparently your news is an "crippling affliction", "that motivates you to come up with something different", "that would maybe cause her to compromise with the difference" Good luck Bud! And another thing by the way, Mrs Candace Owens is totally out of her lane, I'm sure through no fault of her own, however, she's a force to be reckoned with until a MAN sets her straight! i.e.,she could be lined up somewhat even better!

[@cda6590]

@@leanbean8376 I am confused. Is English or second language or did my syntax confuse you and apparently one other person? I was giving the man a compliment. I personally have no wife or even a girlfriend and would love to imagine that one day I too will have a wife I can have lively debates with instead of one who submissively agrees with me on everything.

[@jackie724]

Also, giving to charity is a tax write off so there is still incentive to donate. Especially for the super rich. And I don’t think people don’t want to be more successful because they have to pay more taxes. It doesn’t disincentivize because you will still have more money, even if you’re paying more tax. I’m sure Candace enjoys having paved roads to drive on, a fire department that will respond to emergencies, schools, hospitals, post offices, etc. Paying for things that everyone needs and uses is hardly “theft.”

[@christopherruiz7842]

regardless of what any of us think, can we all agree this type of conversation is the most productive

[@Cubbyg22]

This man said “don’t look at me with ‘that’s facts’ face” lmaoooo

[@paulh2343]

Exactly.. "facts"

[@scottmartin7717]

@@paulh2343 what is one thing Candace said that is not factual? I'm starting to like brand, or respect him at least, but this was a facts vs feelings argument. Idealism vs reality. And Candace is the realist.

[@paulh2343]

@@scottmartin7717 1 thing?.. ok, that billionaires want socialism. If you believe they're itching to give their workers the means of production, then i have some Enron shares to sell to you

[@PVAPlayy]

​@@paulh2343 A handful of billionaires want to control the country/world. They dislike competition, so they wish to kill small businesses, and use the government to insure the continuity of their power. That's literally what happened during 2020. Hold the Enron shares and stop voting for the damn Democrats already.

[@scottmartin7717]

@@paulh2343 Candace said they push socialism (read: for thee, not for me) so that they can keep power. It is true that Bezos and Soros back far-left policies, but they aren't exactly clamoring for proliteriat control of their facilities and wealth.

[@89tothbianka]

I love this. I love listening to people with different opinions, it's refreshing after everybody's being in an echo chamber nowadays.

[@coctailer]

100%! :-)

[@calvinkalmon6746]

Exactly, we need to listen only and not plan on taking sides...especially ahead of time.

[@SHADOW-ei6mw]

Your would be stupid enough to copy a joe Rogan sentence

[@calvinkalmon6746]

@@SHADOW-ei6mw geeez...why so nasty?

[@drewskij2175]

@@calvinkalmon6746 because he's angry, racist and simple...

[@jamiebaker7066]

You can't help others if you can't help yourself. It's nice to see two intelligent people having a respectful debate.