IS HE BAIT?! A FIRST LOOK at Lighter - Zenless Zone Zero

[@zaktubitax5029]

"So...what are you? " Lighter : stunner "Then go stun" *Sits off field*

[@armius063]

thats the best part, why you want a stunner like qingyi wasting a tons of time onfield, when you can just literally pull him out of nowhere without even wasting you dps onfield time and then just boom, stun the enemy and then go away until the reset, he is incredible stunnner in my opinion

[@anzzann]

@@armius063 weirdly enough, this is how I use Anby 😂😂 only pulling her back when she has enough for ex special

[@MarsBarsTECH]

Man, NNN isn't even over yet and hoyo gives us this stunning man? I already lost.

[@Farweey]

If you fail NNN, the it becomes NNN (Nonstop nut novembet.)

[@cannaaaa]

??!?!

[@Not-a-bot301]

💀💀💀

[@painapple1083]

pun intended

[@Lotan_]

The rare dose of testosterone is like an oasis in the middle of a waifu desert.

[@cringemorecringe4549]

I need him asap, love his design

[@cannaaaa]

WISHING U LUCK!!

[@Pancakito]

I love your pfp, also real

[@BladiesBlade]

I need Lighter in more ways than one....

[@Pancakito]

YES YES

[@RealmJD]

I have taken it upon myself to always bring up that Lighter's red muffler and status as a biker may also make him a Kamen Rider reference and that's yet another reason to get him.

[@leblancattire5951]

Husbando = pull.. zzz lacking in husbando is both a curse and a blessing for me.

[@idontknowyoumitch]

Pulling this man regardless of having no team for him. Imma just make the bro team and it will be played for fun shenanigans

[@oldsoulbiz3526]

Well, it's not like they're not gonna release future ice and fire DPS. It will happen, and Lighter will be relevant.

[@idontknowyoumitch]

@ Absolutely. But also I play teams that dont work just because i think they are fun anyway so does a comp with Anton make any sense? No. But bro team.

[@Lishimian]

@@oldsoulbiz3526 absolutely gutted, CN lighter subsection fans have been ablaze if I may say so since the change, people skeptical from day 1 that her core passive would be the same as Burnice already didn't have much hope, but going from that to making him awkward for almost every single dps teams in 1.4, people were questioning why not keep him as 4 star(that was the initial leak) and even meming the genshin developers own statement back in 1.2 ZhongLi 'his future looks very bright' saying 'My future money is always ready for his 'bright' future'. It seems like they were too rushy for his release or the good ol-classic conspiracy: they think we are all male haters🥲

[@alexferrier5732]

Same here, I have no team for him since I don't have S11, ellen, burnice and I don't plan on getting miyabi. But I will pull him and play DPS LIGHTER LETS GO!!! Anything works in this Game, I finished 100 floors of endleds tower with DPS Ceasar, shiyu 7 with DPS Ceasar too. Also, just in case I do wanna buff a fire agent with him, I saw a Showcase of Lighter with DPS Ben that was actually competitive.

[@idontknowyoumitch]

@ DPS BEN!? Next goal then. He will be part of man team. I hadnt built him cause his speed was not my flow but maybe i can have some fun.

[@MICHAEL-Z_Z_Z]

I heard many people say he is good with miyabi but that's not true. To activate his additional ability he needs an attacker/faction agent which is good for Ellen but for miyabi that's not true miyabi needs a support/faction character

[@chocobo4646]

People keep saying this as if the characters in the leaks aren't constantly changing. She was literally Anomaly ally less than 5 days ago. Really gotta wait for the Special Program, because by that point the information given needs to be definitive. If they swap it back, or go all out and make her Support/Anomaly instead of Faction, Lighter would be able to boost her and Burnice up quite effectively. Also ignores that fact that if Miyabi is disgustingly strong enough, Do you need to be doing disorder? Just hyper-carry with Lucy like how people go Jane-Seth-Lucy.

[@MICHAEL-Z_Z_Z]

@chocobo4646 of course they could subject to change but those leaks were not from a single person it's from multiple sources so it could even be true

[@Jl994-f5u]

​@MICHAEL-Z_Z_Z they all said it could change. I do believe they won't change the way the abilities work but everything else is "with a grain of salt". With that, yanagi still looks better with miyabi because she procs so many disorders. Miyabi may not need disorders but her resource accumulates faster when it procs as often as yanagi does disorders (nagi procs disorders literally with every ex special)

[@Jl994-f5u]

​@@chocobo4646my thoughts were miyabi- lighter- Lucy. Everyone gets their buffs.

[@boomagango9121]

If I remember from the leak info I've read or seen because of how much hype Miyabi's is at, it might possibly outshine Harumasa. So the info stated we might get Harumasa for free. Is that info true. Possibly not, but let's say hypothetically it is true. Harumasa is an attack - electrical type agent. He's in the same faction as Miyabi, which fits along with her. And he's an attacker, which fulfills lighter's requirements for his passive. Is this the best type of team? No, there are better options if you have others. But in my opinion, having two heavy attackers on the field constantly using energy, giving lighter motivation to pop in Deal massive daze, and then switching back out seems like a good idea to me.

[@1wsm1]

I might pull him in a future rerun when we get an fire DPS attacker (or Ice but I like Lycaon). For now I’m saving

[@Crismachan]

Same using all my pulls for miyabi $1k saved

[@1wsm1]

How much does it cost to get an M6R0 (best and worst cases) in USD?

[@Crismachan]

@@1wsm1 i think about $2k i would have to be really lucky to get m6 with just $1,000 dollars which is just 500 pulls $2k being 1,000 pulls

[@AwaruGotThatZestiestGameplay]

soldier 11 isn't a bad choice yk

[@Crismachan]

@@AwaruGotThatZestiestGameplay she’s pretty good have her at m2

[@inouehotaru]

still sad how they changed miyabi's additional ability requirements in the beta. i want to pair her with lighter 😢

[@0riginal23]

The changes are good support requirement make her team more friendly like f2p lycaon,shukaku, miyabi, p2w lighter,lucy, miyabi

[@0riginal23]

Crit base char need stunner

[@meowblaziken5634]

@@0riginal23 that team wouldnt work, u need another anomaly unit to proc disorder like yanagi. miyabi meta team is yanagi-astra yao(future leak) - miyabi, also u need to pull her sig w.engine cause literally no w.engine fit her, and u need to build AP + AM + CDMG/CRIT also. she the most premium expensive unit lol

[@ProtoTypeFM]

​@@0riginal23no, they're not. Miyabi still needs an anomaly in practice, because she's reliant on disorders to function well. All the change did is change the third in-slot from flexible options like defender, stunner or support to just support.

[@cabangonlorenz7419]

Bro wants us to spend for Lighter, then spend for Miyabi 16 days later 💀

[@susanavrilchavezrendon7094]

I'm gonna pull for him but it realized to late that I probably wanted to pull for burnice in order to have some semblance of a team for him, so now instead my plan for his team is DPS Soukaku and Lucy because it sounds absolutely hilarious and I also don't have Ellen, but I really don't mind not having something proper prepared for him, I've been clearing most of the content with very silly teams

[@LandBoundFish]

Ellen’s allegedly getting a rerun after him, so I’d go for her again if you really wanna utilize him well

[@Vasharan]

Someone needs to Saitama the skill descriptions. "Too long! Summarize it in 20 words or less!"

[@cannaaaa]

it’s actually so long….

[@spyrothetimelord]

I actually decided to go ahead and give ZZZ a try because I wanted to get Lighter. 😅 But honestly some of the combat stuff still confuses me so I appreciate the in depth way you went through his kit. I am still not clear on all the team building for this game specifically, but I'm really excited to pull for him and then try for Miyabi since I saw she's next patch.

[@Lotan_]

Probably not the best choice but I'm gonna be using him with Lycaon. Pretty much all of my teams revolve around him.

[@ardankarim7107]

Can u guys rate my future team build? Miyabi: main dps Lighter: stunner soukaku: supp+attk multiplier i think lighter can be good with miyabi cause he can decrease enemies ice and fire res

[@dangamez1230]

we have the same idea for a build so i say go for it haha

[@ЧинбатЛхагвасүрэн-н6ч]

love the video! i was wondering if Jane doe, Yanagi and Lighter would be good team?

[@Tyberes]

I'm interested in the idea of a stunner that mostly plays off field. I feel like he would be fantastic with some hyper carry attackers even If they can't take full advantage of his fire and ice buffs.

[@Tyberes]

In particular, I'm definitely thinking that Lighter is going to get duct taped to 11.

[@cabangonlorenz7419]

Same, I am theory crafting an Ether element stunner that gives some kind of Ether Corruption side effect that damages and deals daze on the enemy overtime while off field somewhat like a sedative or gas that makes them sleep, similar to Burnice's DoT burns.

[@Bringthewinter]

His scarf really reminds me of the Shinobi ps2. Surely, they knew that would appeal to those you played the game.

[@gormleypeach5809]

Definitely want to run Ellen/Lighter/Rina team and then finally level up 11 for 11/lighter/Caesar comp. And if i can get his M2 like i want i can use him as a general stunner for anyone, not just ice/fire

[@AngelKusimichi]

Lighter unlocking his inner Fist Of The North Star

[@FairlySadPanda]

He's a bit awkward too as in general someone playing since early 1.0 who isn't swiping for standard banner pulls will probably be very close to getting to the 300 needed for a pick from the standard S-ranks... so for one of his best teams (Ellen) you either already do or are probably about to get Lycaon. Really don't get why he buffs Fire and Ice when his team is Fire and Phys, and Burnice's entire thing is burst into off-field anom damage; it's like Piper doesn't exist.

[@DerpyPufferFish]

2:02 That was so Clean😮‍💨

[@anthonywhite6784]

*insert "Daughter of Calydon" joke*

[@Twincam-z8y]

It's hard to pull for him IF miyabi's after him. I'll save but if i accidentally pull yanagi b4 her banner ends that's good too. Beside i'm at my 50/50 i'll be building pity for miyabi 💀

[@MoebiusX9]

I want him and Miyabi so bad

[@cannaaaa]

praying for you 🙏

[@pocalipse3408]

He sounds like playing a fighting game character, so cool

[@kcha237]

Is Lighter bait? He's definitely a slab of beef

[@cannaaaa]

he’s the right kind of bait for some of the people in this comment section if u know what I mean 💀💀🔥🔥

[@deviant315l6]

Ellen, lyacon, lighter would be insane. Add butler boo and that’s perfect. Stay on Ellen and use lighter for buffs and bust stun. Lyacon to shred and daze with invulnerability then Ellen for most on field. You already have a lot of invulnerability with Ellen and lyacon.

[@minyaw1234]

The worst thing that could have happened to lighter is Miyabi being changed to team buff support/ally - Lighter would have made a Miyabi/Burnice team a sight to behold, but now it doesn't work anymore because Miyabi won't get her team buff in that team anymore. (if they don't change it back)

[@robertjones8573]

The only stunner I have is Anby. But I don’t think Lighter quite suits what I want. Might be worth a shot if I didn’t have a gaurentee right now.

[@mochfarchan8135]

Do you think steam oven could work on lighter? I seem to notice that each elation stacks tracks combat impact value since both hellfire gears and ice-jade teapot do increase impact% in combat

[@darthvocrum5719]

Lighter is 100% husbando bait if: 1. You already Have koleda 2. You are on the 50/50 territory 3. You dont have soldier 11 (maybe even with her cause attackers are worst than anomalies in every single way) 4. You already have Yanagi and want to pull for the fox girl In conclusion you'd be better off saving for miyabi 100%

[@ZoRowArk3]

I wanted him SO BAD. But with him not really working that well in any of my times I'm not sure anymore :((( Maybe it would be better to still get Yanagi before she is gone, cause I definitely want Miyabi and with her being Anomaly, Lighter probably won't fit that well there either 😭😭😭

[@dillansantiago707]

I mean, Lighter would still buff Miyabi cause she is technically still ice. The problem is that her needing a support and section 6 character instead of an anomaly basically means that team building becomes a bit harder. Burnice, Miyabi, and Lighter was potentially going to be the most broken team in the game, which, tbh it'll still be broken, but just not as much lol. But if you end up getting Yanagi or have Burnice already, I'd say go for it if you have the polychrom to spare or want Yanagi in the future

[@pwedesaddina8695]

Thoughs on double stun unit for Ellen team?

[@minhtrinh7236]

Anby: i'm slashing Lycaon: i'm kicking Kole: i'm hammering Quingyi: i'm beating Lighter: i'm punching

[@CyrusBluebird]

Bernice & Lighter are both Cheerleaders then. What a wacky team.

[@djmanoedits8683]

Going to go for him. The only ice agent I have is sokaku any help for her is needed

[@ebobulochka8426]

i have a question... I have Lycaon with Chingy`s signature weapon... is it worth it to go for Lighter`s signature or not?

[@Antwineantoine]

You're not dealing with the average stunner anymore...

[@ebiooo]

I would've pulled for him if he can buff all elemental dmg instead of restricting it to just fire and ice

[@NewYorxer]

If he did buff all of them then he'd be too op.

[@rafaelrose14]

@@NewYorxer they already release op support like caesar and burnice, what stopping them for doing tht to lighter

[@odisleftpaw5663]

@@NewYorxer well caesar is an op defense character that's also a pseudo support and stunner at the same time so I don't see why he couldn't be op too

[@Lotan_]

@@rafaelrose14 Hoyo doesn't have the balls to make a male character OP. Neuvillette is the only exception to date.

[@gurimisenpai2358]

​@@Lotan_Bruh. Sunday exists right now.

[@KeiS14]

Burnice Jane Lucy team has turned into Jane > Miyabi, Lucy > Lighter

[@Jl994-f5u]

I would challenge you to find a way to separate jane and miyabi. Jane win by herself, that's over kill

[@dusk8686]

Miyabi additional is support and hsos6 instead of anomaly and hsos6 now

[@onseki1774]

I'm more impressed with his skills than I thought I would be but I'm just really turned off by stuns lately. Barely have any reason to use Qingyi and Lycaon in the Anomaly era. I think I'll save for Miyabi but at the same time I think at some point next year it will be really obvious that Lighter would have been a smart pull and we'll be far off from a reprint

[@LandBoundFish]

He’s already a smart pull, what with s11 and Ellen existing I thought.

[@laststep56]

@LandBoundFish ​you're not wrong to a degree but if you dont have ellen or 11 he doesn't do much for you. You're waiting for Miyabi or reruns in based on who we currently have. Then theres not much to go on for future characters. He'll be go someday for sure, but when is that? Im still pulling though lol

[@AltaMillia]

I was planning to pull Lighter for Miyabi, so her recent changes are… Unfortunate. Might still get him but I have neither Ellen nor Yanagi, and really can’t afford to try for her before the banner swap. He looks fun and cool though.

[@so-toa9758]

That core passive is a YGO card by itself

[@lol101ioi]

16:13 for anyone who wants to know if he is worth to pull

[@Chaos1091]

Welp had recently just got M2 Lycaon sooo sadly have to skkip him and get him on the rerun. Yanagi emptied my savings lol.

[@hahahano]

A subtle way of saying ur simpin

[@riccco20]

Ready for m2w1 lets gooo

[@gormleypeach5809]

Same!

[@oldsoulbiz3526]

That is overkill. Save your money/polys for other characters.

[@riccco20]

@@oldsoulbiz3526 it's ok I'm saving since qingyi banner, my plan is have 2 team that resonate with qingyi and the other team is lighter and I will use them until I can't clear end game then I will pull another char again

[@thebigredsky]

I'll be pulling him for ellen, my stunner on that team currently is qingyi, who works but she'd be much better on my other team, and lighter would be much better for ellen than qingyi, also I don't have lycaon

[@FDReiter]

I think I'll pass for now, because I ran out of Polychromes (for Yanagi and her sign) and I'm saving for Miyabi.

[@ImportantBeef]

A little disappointed he can't work with Miyabi Soukaku. I guess Miyabi Lucy will work though

[@tayshaunalexander7621]

So what im getting here is that since i have burnice i should have summoned for yanagi instead of skipping....... interesting.

[@oscaroska7613]

He had no place when you have 2 anomaly doing millions of dmg by dingle proc

[@MonkeySaiyans]

18k poly, imma save for Miyabi since i probably need her with my Yanagi

[@lucasfreire8290]

I'm skipping solely 'cause Lycaon + Caesar is a possible pairing for Ellen _while Lighter will make me be stuck with Soukaku I'm probably getting his W-E for Lycaon 'tho

[@veliest1886]

literal stand character lmao, guess we pulling for that shit now

[@bobsnob9246]

If he also buffed phys units he would be perfect for corin

[@jir_UwU]

i need him ... pregnant and mine

[@realland01]

My question is can I play him as main DPS at C0S1? Because I like him a lot and from what I see… he is more a support role 😢

[@richybambam1995]

Man i really wanted on his design alone he just seems so cool but i don't have burnice or ellen so is he even worth it

[@phoenixguy7016]

M6 Lucy Lighter Burnice Rocketboo That's my team.

[@theMetallico666]

My man literally brough inmense power to Ellen and Soldier 11... even crit Burnice can shine even more. Feel sad cause he just powercrept Koleda really hard.

[@Gazimmm]

Idk I want him cuz he's soo cool but I fucked up on my pulls for Yanagis W engine.

[@T8-TR]

I'm taking him not really having a role rn as a W, because we can't have banger character after banger character w/o any room to skip lmao

[@ammarh2900]

I didn’t look at stats, Lighter is in banner… I pull

[@trickytrouble6679]

Can you do ellen, lighter, and lycon? Or how about lucy lighter solider 11? Wouldnt that be a broken team comp?

[@andrewcullen2527]

You know what I find crazy: Lighter's buff triggers off having another ATTACK unit, so despite all looking forward to Miyabi, he actually was made with Ellen in mind a bit more for the Ice aspect of his kit. I honestly thought was just gonna trigger off having any Ice in the team and be obvious prep for Miyabi

[@Luftgitarrenprofi]

Releasing Lighter into the anomaly meta was a bad move.

[@angrywhalewatcher]

Likely a skip from me. I built up Koleda, I plan to pull for Miyabi and I have a feeling I will be interested in the 1.5 units

[@Kaneki-o6-p6y]

Nah man it look like if i skip lighter it feels like I will regret it later 😅

[@koinodiscoqueen]

He made me feel like a girl.

[@brokenconstellation]

pulling for him only because I wanna reunite him with his brother 😊

[@McKnighty]

How am I supposed to put Proto Punk of Lighter if my Cesar already has it?

[@cannaaaa]

you can use swing jazz/freedom blues depending on team composition!

[@ocktavioet]

What about S11 Lighter Lucy?

[@kivy3951]

So, why lighter not worth with S11 again? because S11 is not comfortable to play? bruhhh.... at least compare how S11+caesar vs S11+lighter work 😮‍💨

[@perennchrome2910]

Soldier's great and I'll stand by it

[@ConkeyMudi]

I have to skip out on this one, I got enough fire units and stunner agents

[@hogroad]

lighter

[@sIavetotheworld]

I hope lighter works with miyabi cause im getting him for her

[@wokadora]

Nope unless you use Lucy in your team.

[@calvin2264]

The best team comp for miyabi is Miyabi Burnice Soukaku. F2p option miyabi piper soukaku.

[@RoyalWreckingBall]

​@@calvin2264Yanagi is far and away Miyabi's best partner, so swap Burnice out.

[@yukinohazuki9918]

Good for Fire, Ice team does not want him

[@RerunBladeIPayForE6S5]

How i would love a Blade rerun :D

[@Alpha15Espada]

Damn 😰 but I need to save for Miyabi

[@tuhcyj]

Question. Idk if anyones asked already, but if i do end up running him with ceasar, with 4 piece protopunk on both of them, does the dmg buff stack or do i essentially lose the boost of one of them?

[@cannaaaa]

protopunk's bonus is one per team, so you would have to use something like Swing Jazz!

[@1st1015]

Is the break duration total 5 or 8 seconds for the M1 lighter? The leak said it was 8 seconds.

[@geechib8042]

3 seconds by default and 5 additional seconds from m1 for a total of 8 seconds

[@markv2754]

I think Lighter pulls/sales gonna be low. The combination of Lycaon and Koleda already existing and Miyabi releasing next patch makes it a bad time for Lighter really, even moreso if you're not a day 1 player and don't have a good Ellen.

[@luciferpanamena8908]

I am a huge jojofan but nothing in earth is going to me make to summon on his banner lol, bro is literally bait, we are in a anomaly meta for now

[@goodman6288]

what are his A rank options?

[@shadowrom8296]

"if a ice crit dps agent is release, his value goes throught the roorf" im stunned as almost no CC talks about his future synergy w Myabi.....

[@asahii8409]

You obviously haven’t been keeping up with Miyabi and her kit changes. Ligther is bait and he will not be used in Miyabi teams.

[@MrMarti-i7f]

If Billy doesn't get a faction bonus for fighting alongside Lighter, then I'm not pulling Lighter.

[@mariobalaguer3328]

Well Billy is a cunning hair, so unfortunately even if he has ties to the Sons he isn’t one. Still, Billy and Lighter can work you if you run Caesar or Nicole (those are the only two that work that make sense rn)

[@MrMarti-i7f]

@@mariobalaguer3328 No respect to the lore then no money out of my pocket for Lighter. I'll wait till 1.5 or 1.6 to spend.

[@rafaelrose14]

well he only buff fire and ice so lighter whole existence is meaningless even if u put caesar in billy team so

[@mariobalaguer3328]

@@rafaelrose14 “Meaningless” is a bit much, he’s still a quick stun unit which Attackers want for that increased damage on stun but sure it’s obviously not optimal to pair them together even if Billy magically got a pairing bonus with him.

[@GS_CCC]

He works if you use a Billy Lighter and Nico/piper/Caesar/any future phys agent that needs stun or atk for core.

[@frrd.p6136]

For me I have both Lycaon and Koleda but imma pull him anyway simply because he’s cool 😂

[@thebruh6291]

I'm going for him

[@Kaiyo__Nami]

I NEED HIM SOOOO BAD

[@Vic-fj3qs]

In the whole waifu/husbando over meta debate, Lighter is a winner for me. Unfortunately, I simply have no agents that I can pair up with our cool/hot dood. The only built up dps agents I have are Piper and Yanagi. I have no dps ice or fire agents I could build up Soukaku, but that seems to be a waste of resources. Sorry Lighter. You maybe husbando material, but a relatively new acnt like mine cant bring out your full potebtial. Hard Skip

[@Lybrel]

just play the game with only husbandos. Zayne > Lighter

[@Luftgitarrenprofi]

As the video has shown- I have all characters and still have no convincing pairings. Lighter is a strange release, coming with at best suboptimal initial team comps and being thrown into the anomaly meta as a stun unit. Very strange decision.

[@meemoo9064]

with the proper stats, do you think he could function as a main dps at m0?

[@Luftgitarrenprofi]

Define "function as main dps". Could you S Rank content with a carry M0 Lighter? Probably. You can do it with Qingyi. Is M0 Qingyi better than even Anton as main DPS with a DPS disc setup? A resounding no. I actually tried this and it's not even close.

[@meemoo9064]

@@Luftgitarrenprofi i guess i just meant if he can dish out the same numbers as someone like soldier 11 and clear content at S rank at least, but thanks for the info ill keep that stuff in mind:)

[@Kakume-sr4kh]

finally, more men. ZZZ Is becoming better and better as the homies build up

[@Tik1_1]

I stick with Koleda. lighter looks like bait before Miyabi

[@totemking8157]

Come play zzz, we have: Lycon, Kicker🐺👢 Koleda, Hammer🔥🔨 Qingyi, Robot 🤖🥋🥍 Lighter, Stand *ORA-ORA-ORA-ORA-ORA-ORA-OOOORAAA🥊💫💫

[@Hatsune_mikuxX]

100% bait hard skip I cut my hand off from being able to summon I even added a virus to my game but letting me summon until mayubi

[@nathanlellouche110]

He s lyacon mixed with qinxy

[@janbertguerrero6988]

So... Qingyi is powercrept already?

[@cannaaaa]

I would say that Qingyi is DEFINITELY not powercrept

[@janbertguerrero6988]

@@cannaaaa Please explain why

[@GS_CCC]

​@@janbertguerrero6988her buffs are completely universal while he mostly buffs 2 out of 5 elements

[@guotyr2502]

I won't be pulling for lighter but I'm glad we might finally stop getting anomaly oriented shiyu