Cannon Rusher PAUSES GAME to take a DUMP? | Salt Mines #47 - StarCraft 2

[@mememachine-386]

Lmao Deezer. That's a name I haven't heard in a decade. I think his thing was "how mod (mad) are you?" EDIT: I found it! "How mod u are?" dropped a minute in lmao kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnrUmoJ8o5mWrq8si=Qc5seQo2LCxczazf

[@PiGstarcraft]

omg ty!

[@PiGstarcraft]

"You're Mod 5 times bro?" holy shit this guy was a truly something

[@Morphologicallyy]

@@PiGstarcraft Those were the best sc2 times! CombatEX and Deezer being ladder menaces. EZ!

[@mememachine-386]

​@@MorphologicallyyI still go back to that CombatEX vs Deezer series that Destiny streamed. Best series of SC2 lol.

[@felixchien1664]

​@@mememachine-386*CombatEZ vs Deezer.... get their names right!

[@LunLunBall]

By far my most favourite series on youtube, thanks for always being entertaining pig! (Sucks that google takes such a big chunk out of super thanks now, but thought Id still show support)

[@PiGstarcraft]

I Really appreciate you going above and beyond to support the channel, thanks mate!

[@florianeck6512]

Always great to see german player names and how the are pronounced 🤣 "Bratgeier" would be translated to "roasted vulture" - love it

[@meltdown6165]

A pun on "Bartgeier" (bearded vulture, Gypaetus barbatus), works out really nice.

[@ToabyToastbrot]

It's also an informal word for "roasted chicken"

[@florianeck6512]

12:03 if only terran would have some sort of flying unit which can load in unit to protect them from ground attacks and fly them to safety 🤨

[@pepperedpeanuts6128]

Sounds OP AF bro, imagine if that thing can also HEAL them. Wouldn't that be ridiculous!

[@allanturmaine5496]

That's not fair. They could fly OVER my lurkers.

[@jjainsley]

00:49 "Delusion" is the word, my man! I see it commonly in my personal and professional rummagings. Love your content. It gives mankind hope. Please keep doing what you are doing, sir. Love from the Kingdom United

[@M0rchaint]

The warm water in the ocean is down current from Florencio.

[@DrinkingMud]

I am SO happy to hear aa reference to Ratzdeezer in the year 2023 For reference, it was a conversation he was having in Skype with catz where he repeated "how mad you are? How mad you are son?"

[@skinon45]

6:46 just described what happens in 90% of artosis's games and his coping mechanism

[@Lord_Malkior]

That last match absolutely cracked me up. 💀

[@jonathaniszorro]

LMAO @ 14:46 the mineral field stats "Current Harvesters: 21 | Remaining: 15" and he's dropping two MULEs on it lolol

[@glados4765]

I'm STILL reeling from that monkey illusion thing Florencio did in that last vid. It's living in my head.

[@TriangleChloros]

Urgh. This is bringing back memories of times on ladder I've met people who just pause the game without warning in the middle of micro-intensive fights. It throws me off *so* badly,, and is one of the few things in game that really does get me legitimately salty.

[@hentaidude666]

Just resume it on them. If it tilts you and you feel its purposefully done then dont let them do it

[@PiGstarcraft]

It's a bit jolting, this is one of the lowest moves though. Your opponent is truly desperate for victory and willing to do ANYTHING to get it if they do this. Unpause as needed and F em up! Gl mate

[@jkkim6928]

Honestly pausing is not against the rule is it? I’d say that’s about hundred times less toxic than pro players smurfing to troll the shit out of plebs for instance

[@hentaidude666]

@@jkkim6928 one is a direct waste of time, the other is dishonest. The useless pause imo is more destructive because there's no benefit to anyone, even the pauser. Especially for folks like myself who only have 1.5 - 2 hours max a week to ladder

[@TriangleChloros]

@@hentaidude666 There is *absolutely* a benefit. Like PiG says, it jolts you. Especially if you get into a flow state while playing. Like, an unexpected pause at the right time knocks me right out of the game, and I go from 'cast, kite units back, another cast, split units to avoid AoE, take half a second to queue units back home, send a second army group to do some harass, back to the battle...' to 'let my casters walk up to the enemy, clump everything up in easy baneling radius, forget half my abilities, bank a bunch of resources because I'm busy trying to save what's left of my army, run my harassment straight into a widow mine, panic'. I'm sure it doesn't work as well on everyone as it does on me, but to take a simple example, imagine you're microing a reaper at the beginning of a game. It only takes a fairly small hiccup in your micro to make the difference between killing a couple of workers and escaping, and getting your reaper killed for no value. A well-timed pause at the right moment can very easily cause that hiccup. It's abusing the pause mechanic in a way it's very much not intended to be used, and (to me) the fact that it's not *technically* breaking the rules kind of makes it worse. Genuinely, I prefer playing smurfs. I'd even prefer to play a maphacker*. Because at least then I can still play the best game *I* can play. Even if I lose horribly before the five minute mark. Whatever cheese or harassment or sewer mermaid shenanigans my opponent might do, however skilled they are, whatever unfair advantage they might have, none of it stops me playing out the game to the best of my own limited abilities. Pausing like that *does*, which is why I find it so incredibly frustrating. *I've only ever faced one person who I absolutely know was maphacking. And I'm only certain about that one because he started commenting on my build order over chat.

[@s0ulAssassintv]

i think the quote was "how mad u r"

[@calvyoel1515]

Gotta put that intro on repeat, future episodes, well put lol

[@jiayojames]

It's hard to say where the most rage is because I've been around the same MMR a while so have no comparisons, but I think when I was learning the most BM seemed to be around gold/plat level.

[@hamburgers7817]

Hey Pig answer to your question at the beginning of the vod. 2700-3k mmr on NA ladder. I'm typically around 3200 mmr but whenever I don't play for awhile and my mmr drops below 3k it's almost all cheese builds and tons of salt lords haha.

[@monkeybusiness673]

I love it when the lines between "Salt Mines" and "IODIS" blurr so much 😀

[@chickenman297]

I'm wondering if it is a similar curve to an inverted Dunning Kruger effect. Low MMR and high MMR = small amounts of salt. Medium MMR = high amounts of salt.

[@UnderTheMushroom]

Low Ranks: Low Skill, Low Ego Mid Ranks: Newfound skills/understanding, Huge Ego High Ranks: Perfecting the craft, Shedding Ego Most games I feel like diamond rank is the epitome of ego

[@magni5648]

Medium MMR is high slat because they think they understand the game, while low MMRs tend to be aware that they don't know shit.

[@ZAWARUD00]

That 2nd one was way better than you usual salt mine 🤣

[@loraxak]

Look if you got to take a dump in the middle of the game just take the L

[@Donnerbalken28]

That first game was frustrating to watch, with how the Terran just never fully comitted and grievously neglected his macro. There were several opportunities where he could have straight up ended the game and decided to.... not do that.

[@TripAyes]

Best salt mines EVER! You might even say...... it was the shit.

[@stepanvejvoda2725]

Love this show!

[@heathcampbell3729]

Thanks PiG, appreciate the 4k content!

[@theswiss9063]

He's a protoss... It's not about waste elimination, it's about gathering more ammunition.

[@StevePerow]

Amazing Salt!

[@MLPDethDealr32]

this is why you use Widow Mines to zone out the Protoss. Also, the Protoss was an idiot for just spamming Stalkers. I'll roast both of them. The Terran was a f*cking idiot for not getting Mines and Liberators.

[@zafraz1077]

No one cares.

[@fluffyfang4213]

I think the Protoss floating 1000+ minerals from 5 minutes to the end of the game was a bigger issue. That said, if the Protoss spent their money and built better units, they'd have way more MMR and we'd've needed someone else to fight this guy and submit the replay.

[@sc2youtube744]

Diamond for sure. The reason is that people have to have a general understanding of the game and what is considered a good / bad strategy to get to diamond. But the problem is we're in Diamond so we still suck. So it's a very dangerous combination because people know what's going on and actually care about the game but aren't high enough level where they've actually acknowledged their weaknesses / have gotten good enough to know how to deal with unusual stuff.

[@TMOFApollios]

I love how they are like batteries OP, siege cannons bruv.

[@jkkim6928]

Talk shit get hit son 😂👏 Now my fave national is Australian

[@dmo8541]

when you interrupt someone taking a poo its called turd burgling.

[@juankyyutu]

LOL...barcode knew when the sh*t got real 😂

[@ohmyonionpie]

3:25 how did 1 stalker 1shot a marine??? wtf

[@ohmyonionpie]

6:00 ohh ok it was the damaged hp setting, the marine must have been low hp

[@5L4P5T1CK]

Pig : The word you are looking for in the beginning - to change/alter the reality towards your own wishful fantasies .. It`s a very modern verb, called "to trump" Thank me later ;D

[@freshcutzwag]

FUCKING DEEZER LMAO AND CATS

[@firestarter000001]

Maybe im stupid, but it says in video descritpion "... add your IGN & Rank ..." . Whats ign in the that context?

[@bounkk9147]

In Game Name good sir

[@Jaguar-lr7jq]

It happens to me i was playing ladder then my opponent ask me to pause the game because he need to take a sh!t and he can’t hold it anymore so i let him pause the game but after 1 min a resume the game and i destroy his base

[@Knetknight19]

To all my salty friends, don’t tell someone to “leave” it just ignites us to either try harder or waste more of your time! :)

[@darkheart5110]

Same mind set as criminals that get caught.

[@hzhang1228]

didn't know the existence of a sh*t fairy, huh, the more you know eh?

[@alechickmott9132]

most rage is high Plat/low diamond. Its the struggle bus of those of us who just can't improve enough to get actually good

[@natronlaugeelendigger_jon3743]

Bratgeier is the weirdest username ive ever heard. Grill vulture.

[@Zren89]

A brat (pronounced brahht) or bratwurst is a type of sausage, probably what they were going for. Sausage grill/er

[@natronlaugeelendigger_jon3743]

@@Zren89 brat ist net Bratwurst, und wer auch immer dir das so erzälht hat ist komisch. Brat in dem kontext hat keine Wirkliches Äquivalentes im englischen und grillable vulture wäre die Näheste Übersetzung

[@Zren89]

​@@natronlaugeelendigger_jon3743buddy, no one told me that, it's a thing in the US, look it up. Idk what else to tell you. Bratwurst is a real thing and it is shortened to brat in the US.

[@jiayojames]

LOL I love how he said "leave" after taking a couple of decent engages but is still 4 nexus vs 2 cc, like buddy you might want to take out some of his economy before getting cocky because 30 seconds from now the unit kills will be irrelevant xD

[@Donnerbalken28]

This was so frustrating to watch... even a Colossus cannot defend against 20+ Marines. The game was done and done, all the Terran had to do what a move into the natural. But instead he just.... didn't.

[@justincronkright5025]

NO, we've started this journey together - I'm not leaving you!

[@MrSpleenface]

NA diamond, basically no rage. Very occasionally will get a “xyz unit is stupid/op”

[@MaiAolei]

Here your linguistic nugget for the day: Bratgeier is a non-standard (i.e. made up, but grammatically correct) German word and would be translated as "fried vulture".

[@AC3handle]

need to train chatGPT to salt responses, and have it auto fill while you're playing.

[@alistairbolden6340]

That last game was high GM btw....

[@Volkaer]

Honestly, the arrogance and salt seems to be directly linked to the marine stutter step micro in my experience. Specifically marine stutter step and not just someone with a good micro - but the more someone is doing it, the higher the % they are going to be an entitled arrogant loser XD

[@ivanilla6780]

Regarding the question of where rage is most common: between drunk nights, tiltfest losing streaks, racedodging and laddering a new account, I have dipped my toes several times in the last year in the slightly lower leagues like Diamond 3 and Diamond 2. And comparing the players there to the ones in Masters 2 and Masters 1, there is definitely a difference. Rage from a Diamond 3 player is ignorant and somewhat childish, but rather innocent and benign. This seems to come from them simply having frustrations with the learning process. Rage from a Master 1 player is absolutely vicious, cruel, hateful and disturbing. There are a handful of regulars, these barcodes and smurfs on EU, who apparently have nothing going on in their lives, and so they are way too good at SC2 and way too bad at being people. They spill out all their bitterness online and bully other players.

[@PiGstarcraft]

Game's much more fun when you respect your opponents. It's not every day for sure, but on those days when I respect my opponents I can enjoy the game, win or lose. It's a bloody good feeling I hope these guys discover one day

[@ivanilla6780]

@@PiGstarcraft Same. The really agressive ones make me feel geniunely bad for them.

[@brandonguthrie6511]

I think the human condition you're looking for is some sort of narcissism.

[@toadofsteel]

Mom! Bathroom!

[@quasar2834]

2nd Game wasn't really salty, definitely BM though, but didn't feel the salt come through

[@arkansasorigami83]

I love to throw it out on NA at unranked teams vs ai

[@dfsdsfsdfsadfdsfa223]

The warm water is pee

[@TheGreatDanish]

GM players might not always be rage babies but their rage is more hilarious because they should know better.

[@robertdobbs4156]

lmao

[@fishlobs]

the most angry league is legends league

[@ZAWARUD00]

It's no plat. I used to be in plat league (EU), and people have a decent macro there.

[@blooburry416]

Im just waiting for someone to submit one of my games for me.

[@Hurtone]

I found that my normal greeting "slava Ukraini" somehow seems to get a lot of Russian players super tilted.

[@abyrvalg_]

The first game is silver.I play protoss gold 2 as offrace so I know this lol.

[@hwile]

Could be different, cause of regions. But I also have no clue.

[@bstjules]

Diamond league has been the worst so far. Lots of salt and the people complain about me 'not playing properly', Big toxic Idra vibes

[@inity]

the most gms are looking deteils what did they do wrong but i used to watch for a bit then left him ofc this zerg player snake he was complaining nonestop about the ladder and the game mechanics

[@MeTheRareBird]

it's gold league

[@sticklane]

poo don't queue

[@seanie99511]

I wish bratgeier had just repeated his name to him. 🤷