Man, you just saved me from ruining my rotors. I already chose (incorrectly) metal pads for my Shimano BR-M6000 calipers. Today, few hours before going to the store I stumbled upon your video. I cleaned my rotors and they say "Resin pads only" but this was completely covered by dust, never even noticed it. My calipers came with Shimano G02S resin pads (I checked and realized this only now, didn't need to touch the brakes for more than a year), now there's an upgraded model G03S, which is also resin but a little more durable. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge, so I didn't end up buying the metal pads! :-)
@WildMidwest13 жыл бұрын
Three tips: (1] I blow-torch my sintered pads every time they are out. (2) After degreasing the rotors with acetone, I perform a light sanding perpendicular to the rotational axis. Then I wipe the rotors with 91% isopropyl alcohol to remove metal fragments and oils that may have deposited. (3) Season the brakes after each cleaning with 6-10 graded power stops. This method seems to keep my brakes in tip-top form.
@sergioquinonez54755 ай бұрын
Excellent video ...good camera work , thoroughly explaining step by step ...well done indeedy!
@999DaveUK3 жыл бұрын
Great tips. Before pushing the pistons back it's better to clean around their edges or you'll push dirt back in and damage the seals. Also better to ensure both pistons are moving in unison by "exercising" them.
@buildersedge8886 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Thank your for taking the time to put this together. The part about pushing out the rotors before replacing the pads was especially helpful. Now I know why I couldn't get my rotor (and wheel) into the brake. Thanks again.
@marco45707 жыл бұрын
Protip: Use two screwdrivers. One from top, the other from the bottom, touching each other in between the pistons. Push the screwdrivers forward into each other. it allows you to put linear pressure on the pistons.
@ClaudiuB4 жыл бұрын
I used one thin Allen key. You can insert it all the way between the pistons, but make sure that everything is symmetrical. And then push with both thumbs on the Allen key so it will push the brake piston back, but again, push and place your fingers symmetrically
@sivram4353 жыл бұрын
@@ClaudiuB 👍 I was wondering if I even had two screw drivers.
@armyfreak13672 жыл бұрын
You remind me of wrooongway
@danieldavis10416 жыл бұрын
#1 1:37 - Sintered pads on Resin-only rotors #2 4:30 - Contaminated pads #3 6:34 - Using force when resetting pistons #4 11:46 - Contaminating rotors on reinstallation You're welcome.
@jim52565 жыл бұрын
sintered an resin are the same thing. be worthless with somebody else's eyesight.
@ruvimbond23105 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@istvanszabo28534 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro!
@slavekn4 жыл бұрын
@@jim5256 sintered = metalic versus resin = organic
@J_M_D_904 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
@beforedawn2 жыл бұрын
I know this is old but it's still helpful. If you've used ceramic pads, how do you like them? where do the fit between resin-metal? Pros/cons?
@alanwilkinson948713 күн бұрын
Just stumbled upon this, excellent tutorial, I'm new to this sort of stuff. our local bike shop has closed down recently, so it's a case of, if it needs doing DIY, or go to a shop like halfords and pay the earth for jobs like this. I've just changed my brakes, next job pads... Many thanks..
@giuze-explore3 жыл бұрын
Nice tips but one other mistake I learned from another video is to clean around the pistons before to push them inside. So if you have any mud or dirt around the piston, you won't put dust on the ring.
@Frank-mn4hx2 күн бұрын
That's very clear. I have to admit that I almost waited to long before replacing the pads. The pads were worn so far that it was almost metal on metal. In that case I would have damaged the rotor. When I started replacing the pads I found out that the screw holding the pads was stripped. I had help from my colleagues and we decided to replace the caliper on the back. The new caliper had new pads installed. Now we had 2 problems fixed. The squeeking noise is was making and it prevented damaging the rotor. Now it works as new and I can stop saflely. Although I must be carefull not blocking the wheel. It will make the rear wheel slip, wearing the tyre down.
@knut8154 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a couple really good tips! One tip I have is if after finishing you now have rub on the pads, before adjusting the caliper mount, do the pad bedding process as this might fix the rub without moving the caliper.
@TheMwarner884 жыл бұрын
Best bike mechanics video i've ever seen. Thank you!
@dannywilliams81153 жыл бұрын
Really good and informative tips, one of the best bike maintenance videos without a shadow of a doubt 👏🏽
@andrewkb52112 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such an informative video. I feel much more confident changing my pads now. 🙏👍
@andrewcosmatos3393 жыл бұрын
Isn't it good practice to push out the pistons slightly and clean them before pushing them in else you could contaminate the seals which could cause leaks?
@herculesmclovin3 жыл бұрын
Great tips thank you. I would mention... Clean pistons *before* resetting/pushing back in. Otherwise you are pushing dirt into the seals of the pistons 👍
@alfrecletero5 жыл бұрын
How about resetting the pads before changing them? That way you'll scratch the old pads with the screwdriver and not the new ones.
@usaisamess88803 жыл бұрын
He did that
@ToThePointCT3 жыл бұрын
Great idea
@alfrecletero3 жыл бұрын
@@usaisamess8880 you're right, not sure why I thought he did it after replacement 🤔🤦🏻♂️
@MD-S2827 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this, it is really helpful. Very clear and easy to follow. The close-ups really help too!
@sticksman78194 жыл бұрын
Good video demonstration with clear explanations.these are little jobs il look forward to attempting and my new bike has hydraulic breaks which is something I've never had.you can get so much info from youtube.👍🏻
@davidlynch90493 жыл бұрын
That was excellent. Very detailed and I need to do it. Thanks.
@tigerbmwm37 жыл бұрын
Glad to see my country Malaysia on the disc.. factory is in my home country, but its super hard to find a original pads for bicycle.. i wonder why.
@norwegiantroll24805 жыл бұрын
Because none cares about Malaysia. Especially Shimano. They use your country only as cheap work force.
@LetRippr4 жыл бұрын
Great tips, learnt some great points, even though been doing it for years!
@MasterFeiti6 жыл бұрын
Most useful brake pad video I have seen so far. Thank you
@bazahaza6 жыл бұрын
Watch the ones by park tools much better.
@moe91427 жыл бұрын
I got some additional Tipps and Information here: If you only touched the brakepads with your fingers, you should be ok by going on a flat, straight street and accelerating to a moderate speed. Then braking hard should be hot enough to heat up and burn the oil. You should have "normal working brakes" after 15-20 times repeating this. To clean the rotors you can put them in a bucket with a mixture of hot water and normal "dish cleaning soap", afterwards spray the rotors with something like "brake cleaner" and some minutes later use a paper towel to wipe if off again. From the moment on, when you move the rotor out of the complete brake, DON'T EVER PULL ON THE BRAKE LEVER, otherwise the pistons will come out and the "brake-system" will leak mineral oil. New brakepads always need some time until they have their maximum braking-power, so wait for them to reveal their normal power before hitting steeper descends!
@vik68854 жыл бұрын
This mistake happened to me while testing the other wheel wher I put the rotor back in and I accidently pulled on the lever of the wheel without the rotor. The pad and some oil came out. I managed to push the pad back in nicely however there is no pressure on the lever now. I hope replacing the oil will fix the issue.
@moe91424 жыл бұрын
@@vik6885 Actually just bleeding your brake should be enough to fix it, I think GMBN also have Videos about doing that!👍
@flyingscot36663 жыл бұрын
thx for your video - learned how to spread the pistons using the old pads - v successful result - much appreciated
@wilcurran33774 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Clear and concise. Thanks very much!!!
@wanderer22462 ай бұрын
You said that brakes can be damaged when brake liquid is pushed out of the system, but I had an incident with my Deore XT brakes when brakes lever was pushed super hard (by an obsticle) and I after examination of the bike saw that the liquid was pushed out of the system at the lever side as well as somewhere on the caliper side with splashes left on fork. Though, brakes still works, I didn't bleed them after that yet, the only thing is they feel a bit more stronger with a closer stroke point. Actually don't understand how too high pressure in the system can break them, as then in some critical situations this means you can be left without brakes if you apply too much pressure?
@denisosipov8407 жыл бұрын
If you degrease your pistons in caliper, they will be oxidized in feature. You should use some silicon lube on pistons.
@ethanmoore76483 жыл бұрын
So could you use muc-off silicone shine?
@olliebodman97715 ай бұрын
Changed mine today, but my front brake lever is solid when braking but my back brake lever is spongy but works 🤷♂️🤷♂️ what do you think
@jorgeh.gonzalez39293 жыл бұрын
Amazing video . Very professional and well details about possible mistakes . Thank you 🙏😜👍
@johndef50753 жыл бұрын
Use plastic tire levers instead of screwdrivers.
@dominicbritt7 ай бұрын
Doesn’t matter if you’re pushing back pads that are due for replacement …
@fenderstratguy3 жыл бұрын
Excellent and highly knowledgeable presentation.
@stoianRT6 жыл бұрын
Something to add: i also use some sand paper to remove a small layer from the disc pads. the results are really good. So you can clean your caliper and disc but the pads also retain some gunk. This is maybe why you recomend changing the pads before they run out? Try this methode maybe it will work and save you some money
@M-DIY6 жыл бұрын
Radu Teodor Stoian use 400 grit only!!!
@martinparker65366 жыл бұрын
also you can heat them with a blow torch to 'sweat' the crap/oils out of the material.
@LarryCWhite-i3w26 күн бұрын
Thank you for your detailed video. I followed your instructions, and I now have stop on a dime brakes.
@LostInLeiden Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, very helpful, thanks so much
@joeMopar4123 жыл бұрын
If you have a minimum 180mm rotor mount, could you use a (160 to 180mm) adapter to install a 203mm rotor?
@someformofhuman7 жыл бұрын
Are those Acera components? If so, I have a Tern Joe P27 (A 650B touring foldie) with the exact setup and moreover a coincidence that I need to replace my rear brake pads today. They're so worn down until I hear a metal-on-metal rubbing noise recently. I took out the pads and yikes!! Less than 0.2mm of pads left, it's almost stripped bare nearly touching the metal plates. Oddly the front pads are completely fine. Thanks for the video. I do not mind doing a mini-review of my bike someday for your Channel. :)
@jordsfjords8856 жыл бұрын
finally some very good video with great explanation!
@DuncanStewart-xd1jw4 жыл бұрын
Might be easier opening the bleed screw at the caliper end when pushing the pistons in, rather than messing about at the reservoir. Works for car brakes.
@BushmanCanuck2 жыл бұрын
Safer too...especially sram.
@No_justice_no_peace24 күн бұрын
You'll get fluid leaking out if you do it at caliper end because that's where pressure will be released. High risk of contaminating rotors and pads . If you do it on reservoir side it pushes the air out and the fluid gets pushed into the reservoir instead.
@DuncanStewart-xd1jw24 күн бұрын
@@No_justice_no_peace when you open a bleed screw at the caliper, the only pressure is the head of fluid in the system, which is small. If you have concerns over contamination, attach a tube to the nipple, as is the practice with cars, or just wrap a rag round the caliper.
@matthewotremba92305 жыл бұрын
I keep a bag of tongue depressors around , good for pressing pistons , an cleaning , getting into tight spaces . They are soft , yet rigid
@johndef50753 жыл бұрын
Plastic tire levers work well too.
@vintagerider43017 жыл бұрын
Thanks - removing the screw from the lever assembly is a confirmation I was looking for everywhere.
@PrzemyslawSliwinski4 жыл бұрын
From hindsight it appears obvious, doesn't it?
@Tubecraft12 жыл бұрын
Very good video thank you. I might add that if too much force were used with the screw driver a person could bend the calliper mounts on the frame so just a note to only use a twisting action on the screw driver 😊just like you did good job
@snaky13377 ай бұрын
after putting the new pads , do I need to do something more special to do on the first ride
@calvintanner7897 Жыл бұрын
What if you experience burning in the brake pads ? Can that mess up the calipers for both front and rear rotors ?
@Musicalbluewolf6663 жыл бұрын
thankyou , i have been looking for this video. my disc brakes also have a pin rather than a screw.
@rothschildkilledjfk62375 жыл бұрын
You should of cleaned the Pistons before forcing them in like that, You just forced dirt back in which will led to a lazy piston just sayin, Ohhh and you should of lubed the piston with the brake fluid ur manufacture use.
@Tubecraft12 жыл бұрын
How would you recommend cleaning the pistons ? Depending on how I do it could I end up pushing more dirt into the seals than if I just push the pistons back ?
@MurphDawgProductions Жыл бұрын
Should’ve *
@biglounumber124 жыл бұрын
Do i have to remove the wheel or can i just remove the calipers instead??
@cha-ronfaheemtaylor45565 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for sharing this information. i am new to the concept of disk brakes. i was assuming the brake pad material was a choice of quality, so i was going to buy any type this time, but steel pads the next time.
@makantahi37315 жыл бұрын
it same as on car : usuall organic pads for easy braking, semimetalic for higher temperature and ceramic pads for race but it does not work good when are coold
@BbsKochMoraes3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. It's very clarifying!!!
@JoelLSigne3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, this video is very much helpful for me,.. now i can do it on my own .
@thomasanderson22483 жыл бұрын
Your videos are very helpful thank you,
@paddy19915 жыл бұрын
Had a issue with my shimano xt brakes. Couldn't get the pistons back far enough. Wound back all the level adjustment and the free play screw at the top. Got everything back together but when I applied the brakes oil came out from the lever. Luckily it was the pressure relief valve. Readjusted the the components and system operating correctly.
@supersai41982 жыл бұрын
I didn't degrease the disc at all, works perfectly with my new brake pads. My bike is 2 years old and first time changing front pads only. Feels brand new!
@soliranje5 жыл бұрын
hi, my friend is using shimano altus br-m365 brake setup and he is wondering are G01A pads compatible with his brake set?
@popitn2nd4 жыл бұрын
New bike, new brake pads, new rotors. Does it need more fluid if the throw is too low when braking?
@macro1825 жыл бұрын
what if i'm not able to push back pistons even if i've opened the bleeding screw? do you have other suggestion more than open the entire caliper? for example using heat to let the housing of the pistons dilate?
@EV-js8ku3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the #3. Helps me a lot
@kongyb54524 жыл бұрын
Hi, i would like to know is it normal that rear brake pad is closer to the rotor compared to the front? I am using ultegra hydraulic disc brake.
@callumw90677 жыл бұрын
do you not add some copper grease to the back of the pad?
@makantahi37315 жыл бұрын
why, to reduce drag of braking?, joke, it is used on cars, not need on bikes
@nicolasbrisebois-tetreault80503 жыл бұрын
My pistons are not resetting completely. I tried to do the trick with the bleeding port open. As I unscrew it that spill. Is it normal? I guess there is to much oil in it.
@catkoala4 жыл бұрын
How about to clean the pistons? Doesn't matter that you reset the pistons if the pistons doesn't move evenly because of dirt n stuff.
@mattl17624 жыл бұрын
I remember when i used my pads so much that the braking surface seperated from the backplate, it flew straight out. Hope mini's, still on my bike today, never been re-blead and still works perfect!
@jimmihenry4 жыл бұрын
Yea, was good idea ti take a look at your vid, ife already overseen the print "RESIN ONLY"! On my motorbike i was able to chose organic, or metalic brake pads. This a comlete different story... Tank you! ;)
@showze216 ай бұрын
excellent how to do disc brakes video
@Pillokun7 жыл бұрын
Dont do like I have done, ie keep the bike near the kitchen and the fat from the frying has contaminated the pads... new shimano xt pads in the gutter.... But the thing is, i have new pads(cheap ones) and have cleaned the disc but yet it does not brake as it should although the pressure is there so it does not feel like it needs a bleedeing.
@lazurm3 жыл бұрын
If the pads became contaminated from, say, lubricant picked up from the road, wouldn't working the pads with a #220 sand paper and alcohol deal with this issue effectively?
@mtbboy19937 жыл бұрын
It took 4 weeks to wear resin pads out on resin only rotor, So I had to switch to metallic. This was on 160 rear 180 front, and non finned pads. I knew my rotors would wear out, but as I only use metallic pads, I just installed metallic pads and tested it out, it took about 4 months to wear out the rotors.
@843thebear2 жыл бұрын
Useful video , thank you.
@Qnexus77 жыл бұрын
9:30 yep exactly what happened to my front brake: pushed a lot the pistons, lost like 60% of the oil from the reservoir. but the question is: why you saying that the whole system is broken in that case?? isn't it enough to re-bleed it?
@Qnexus77 жыл бұрын
ok got it, thanks
@JM.TheComposer7 жыл бұрын
How about the mistake of not checking the piston movement? I replaced my hydraulic disc brake pads due to poor braking power. I eventually figured out the real reason was one of the 2 pistons was seized and not pushing on the pads!
@mattadamson24176 жыл бұрын
Jucius Maximus how did you sort the piston out?
@paviaaPS36 жыл бұрын
Matt Adamson take the caliber OFF and blow out with air
@M-DIY6 жыл бұрын
Hydraulic is best, cable sucks!!! I have hydraulic front and cable rear brakes.
@BANE81support5 жыл бұрын
What do i do if the braking pistons were forced back into position? I lost a ton of fluid from one side and now.Cannot use the brake
@cjones78543 жыл бұрын
I've only ever heard of organic/resin pads and semi-metallic/metallic pads for bikes. I have ceramic pads for my car but who sells ceramic or kevlar (never heard of that for brakes) for bikes? @SickBiker
@haziqhqal94364 жыл бұрын
love from Malaysia 🇲🇾
@justk69883 жыл бұрын
Jauh naw travel 🇲🇾
@pinkpanter8833 жыл бұрын
@1:14 this will work with my model? i dont think the shimano "g-type" brake pads will work with the m425...
@SwedenLover0902 жыл бұрын
Good and informative.... Thank you.
@helomyfren61954 жыл бұрын
but can u use the same looking pad but its a bit smaller than the recommended?
@robertkirk43877 жыл бұрын
with all the oil and grease on the roads these days you could be changing pads every week
@michaelray21044 жыл бұрын
You can just use sandpaper and grind them for 5 seconds then put alcohol and light them on fire. It will be just like the brand new one
@rahmanenam2 жыл бұрын
I put new pads but when i ride bike then brake does not work properly.can you tell me why.
@heksogen47883 жыл бұрын
If they are contaminated with lubricant, but still thick enough, why not clean them with a degreaser solvent? Why replace perfectly good pads?
@TdZM_3 жыл бұрын
I change my pads, but i still have very loud noise when i brake!!! what should i do?
@JulianIrwinX6 жыл бұрын
Great tip, really helped me out!
@mtbboy19937 жыл бұрын
The degreaser you used is meant to be rinsed off with water.
@educationalvideos41515 жыл бұрын
Also, Shimano says to only use alcohol or soapy water, to avoid damaging seals
@smallhatshatethetruth79333 жыл бұрын
@@educationalvideos4151 I push out the pistons then use a pipe cleaner soaked in mineral oil to get the dirt off of the pistons
@andrelloyd4010 Жыл бұрын
A fifth mistake is to assume NEW pad faces don't need degreasing prior to fitting. Part of your pad fitting regime should be to degrease new pad faces which takes only seconds with an atomising degreaser. Removing a few thousands of an inch off the new faces using a fine grit paper is further reassurance that possible contaminants in production - packaging - storage or shipping are removed prior to fitting. Best wishes and happy pedalling !
@glockasauruswrex63625 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. On point and just what I needed to install my brake pads!
@bradolson82424 жыл бұрын
Another good solvent for cleaning rotors is isopropyl alcohol 99%.
@lesio3333 жыл бұрын
Can you clean the brakes with brake cleaner which we use for cars?
@rondav56Ай бұрын
Yes you sure can
@Jac8334 жыл бұрын
How do I find the right ones, need a new brake pad spring I have a Grail 8
@paidinfull894 жыл бұрын
I used force to reset piston what should I do. Did I damage my brake
@mattl17624 жыл бұрын
I leave both pads in when reseting the piston and with the old pads in place just tap with a hammer a screwdriber that is slightly too big between the pads. I never put a screwdriver or prising tool against the piston!
@wangdangdoodie4 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I wince when I see people jamming all sorts of objects into the caliper and up against the rotor.
@عالمالأفرشةالمنزلية-ر5خ6 жыл бұрын
Help me ? Any time i pull my rear brakes it gives me an annoying noise like scratching not squealing
@M-DIY6 жыл бұрын
عالم الأفرشة المنزليةclean your pads and disc with dish soap, then sand them with 400 grit sandpaper.
@chrisbalanda93683 жыл бұрын
I take the caliper off pads very easy to fit Put caliper on alan key tight Pads be millimeter near the rotater grip
@mazditzo3 жыл бұрын
I use plastic tire levers to push the piston
@osheathedj4 жыл бұрын
instead of pushing the pistons in, you should be using a bleeding block
@ridedirtymtb9938 Жыл бұрын
Good video my friend👍
@desfourie5284 жыл бұрын
Thank you, really appreciated
@gaijinman78526 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you
@larrytate16574 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what works with Shimano BL MT200? I can’t find them anywhere yet
@thomasraage48735 жыл бұрын
Great video with the detail resetting pistons.
@cha-ronfaheemtaylor45565 жыл бұрын
my disc do not indicate the type of material brake pads should be made of. the only thing on my disc are "160' and an arrow pointing towards a screw.