Canon 5D MK III vs Nikon D800 with Nathan Elson

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

I always shoot with the flattest profiles possible and then grade the images to my liking in software later. There is a type of look I like, so the images look quite similar regardless of what camera I filmed on. I also try and use large sensor cameras, so the depth of field is usually quite similar shoot to shoot. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

I used a a Foton Neon Duo camera support. While not a steadicam, it does make using DSLRs for long periods a lot more comfortable and stable. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

We were analysing the images in Lightroom, which zooms into 100%. Because the Nikon files are higher resolution, the comparison tool zooms in more on the Nikon. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

Yup, I love their Neon Duo support. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

That's the nicest thing anyone on KZbin has ever said to us! Jordan @ The Camera Store TV

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

Only your UK trip includes a stopover in the Great White North.. We're based in sunny Calgary, Canada. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

I initially exported the video in 1080P, but at such a huge length only the 720P version would meet KZbin's upload restrictions. I could compress the 1080P version further, but that would sort of defeat the point. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

You're in better hands now! The cameralabs test only analyzed JPEG capture, we looked at RAW quality. Our upcoming second video was shot in JPEG, and from what we've seen, cameralabs seems to be onto something... Jordan @ The Camera Store TV

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

The 5D Mark III is a better video camera than the Mk II as you gain a headphone jack, improved audio pre-amp, an option for lower compression, and a 720/60P mode. See part 3 of this series for more detailed information. Jordan @ The Cameras Store TV

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

I haven't shot a project on the D800 yet. The upcoming D800 vs 5D III shootout will have my full review though. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV

[@Lydomina]

This is the best video I've found on these cameras. You really put the cameras through their paces, and the whole time I didn't once feel like I was being pushed either way out of personal bias.

[@StepphanMcPherson]

Thanks for taking the time to put this together, well done gentlemen !!

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

Nikkor 24mm F1.4. Most of the filming in the studio was with this lens. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV

[@NathanElson]

Sorry I'm not sure what you're asking... The photos in this test were shot under both controlled lighting (in studio) as well as florescent lighting (in parking garage).

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

Just google 'Nathan Elson switch' and his detailed blog entry will show up. Message me if you need the link. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

Finally! Someone has elevated the level of discourse!

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

KZbin's file size limit wouldn't let me upload a reasonably compressed 1080P version of this ridiculously long video. A decently compressed 720P version is better than a 1080P version with dancing pixels. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV

[@iSOBigD]

Great review so far, guys. Looking forward to the other 2 videos!

[@biffy7]

Excellent video guys. The pacing (editing) is just right. Congrats.

[@kenyee88]

looking forward to the video test...nicely done w/ this comparison.

[@rjcss1974]

Thanks for the great comparison. The best that I've seen till now! Can't wait to see the next two! Keep up the great work. Cheers!

[@FalloutConspiracy]

I'm enjoying these reviews Chris!. They're very in-depth and thorough giving us a clearer picture of the product. Subscribed!

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

The light leak issue is insanely minor. If you are doing very long exposures in pitch black situations it will effect exposure. I think the D800 and 5D III should be compared as they are the current entry level full-frame DSLRs from the two largest producers. The D800 has its issues as well. Trust me, I'll bring them up in part 3. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV

[@Wishwader]

Great comparison of the two cameras. Clearly a lot of effort went into finding the pros and cons of both.

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

No this video was filmed at 30 fps, the smooth movement comes from shooting at a natural 1/60th second shutter speed. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV

[@Rye042]

great job guys, this really breaks down both the strengths and weakness of the cameras, and the bonus video review of d4 is great!!! Awesome!

[@lapalala98]

Best comparison video, can't wait to see part 2 and 3.

[@dksculpture]

A very good comparison. The high quality of the studio work gives credibility to the entire review.

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

I'm bad at my job. It was a sound mixing issue. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV

[@TravelingDorks]

When will you guys be posting the follow up video? I'm dying to watch it!

[@madanmdaniel]

Amazing reviews...fantastic work. Definitely the most professionally done comparison review that I have seen so far...looking forward to the next review in this series. By the way...I also think that both are amazing cameras and a giant leap into the future.

[@jcax44]

thanks for the review... any thoughts as to which you guys prefer?

[@holockcreateinc]

Been waiting for you guys to do a review on the D800 for so long!!! Great vid!!! Fantastic! Even as a big fan of Digitalrev, I mean you guys really rock and are the best at the moment by FAR in providing camera analysis and reviews! Keep up the good work!! Cheers!

[@mokhtarchahine]

Great Video, What tripod head was Nathan Using ? Why not a Ball head ?

[@YannickKhong]

Chris, I wish could provide a link to you guys about pulling out shadows out of dark areas on both cameras. I'm sure you will find the 5dmkIII to show a lot more color casts when doing so.

[@ilikeitwhatisit]

are some of the files shot available for download somewhere? really nice comparison, thanks!

[@GordonBurnsVideo]

Thanks guys - that was a good balanced comparison. I would agree that overall there's not a great deal of differenec between the two. Either camera is pretty amazing. I own a D800 and appear to have a back focus issue which is being looked at by Nikon right now. That said I trust it will be sorted and I will be delighted with it. You missed out doing a video test between the cameras and that one is an interesting debate too.

[@mokhtarchahine]

Interesting, Thank you Nathan. Wonderful work on this video and in your portfolio. Truly enjoyed them both.

[@ThanujaLRupasinghe]

Thank you very much Jordan...

[@estradalex]

Great review. BTW the focus hunting issue has been resolved with the latest firmware update on the D800/E. What about the $500 price difference? and the fact that the D800 has built in flash with commander mode plus focus assist (which can be turned off just like that annoying focus beep) Although both are great cameras, the Nikon edged higher. The used Mark IIIs are already selling for under $3,200 on ebay while the D800 are still on high demand and bringing in premium prices for new & used.

[@CRANKYONE100]

As much as i love watching DigitalRev for a laugh, their not much chop when it comes to proper analysis/comaprisons of cameras. So thanks for being the first team to do it properly .IMAGES, IMAGES is what we want!!...cheers Canucks!

[@JohnMacLeanPhotography]

A couple more things, since I just finished watching. 1. What Camera Calibration settings in LR4 did you use for each body? 2. The stairwell shots from both cameras seemed to be far-focused past her face. Was that intentional, or did the cameras miss the target? Thanks for putting this video up! John MacLean

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

Part 1 was all shot RAW, and edited in Lightroom 4. Part 2 used the default JPEG compression, but with Noise Reduction turned off on both cameras. Part 3 was shot on Neutral profiles, with sharpening and contrast turned all the way down. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV

[@profgerwinmeneses]

ILL BE WAITING FOR THE PART 3 .. THANKS A LOT FOR THIS INFORMATIONAL VIDEO.. 2 THUMBS UP

[@NathanElson]

I get what you're saying, but what I'm telling you is that the actual hi-res files, without the compression of youtube, there are no blown out hot spots, all of the detail is retained for both cameras. Regardless of how expensive your monitor is, youtube is messing with the highlights and shadows that you see here :)

[@Taogunner]

very nice and insightful ... no bias honestly

[@97adhib]

dude you guys really need to start making more videos, your videos are so in depth and just so good, yet you put videos up like every month! MORE VIDEOS!

[@maxxandlouie]

I've seen them all... THIS IS SO FAR, THE BEST COMPARISON REVIEW MADE, between the two cameras, WAY BETTER THAN THE CHINESE GUY, THE FRO HEAD AND THOSE GUYS WITH THE HEAVY ACCENTS! Thank you!

[@fishnose1]

Now, THIS is how a comparative review is done. Kudos, guys.

[@ShawnDickens]

Why is this video only mid resolution? The idea of looking at 22MP and 36MP images on a 2MP (1080p) video is not ideal, but what is the MP of 720p video? This is one of the first videos I've seen in years that didn't lag while loading, so it's nice that youtube could finally load it's content on demand.

[@NathanElson]

I'll agree 100% with this. I do plan on shooting in a much more high contrast situation to get a true feel for the DR.

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

I've been using the 'Paul Simon: Kodachrome' excuse for years now! Chris will address this staggering controversy soon! Jordan @ The Camera Store TV

[@NathanElson]

Its the manfrotto 804RC2 and I prefer to be able to control my up/down and side-to-side movements independently as opposed to a ball head that just moves all over the place.

[@GabrielMora-VOX_Photography]

Thanks guys for this amazing video/review. Totally awesome, love to hear non-biased perspectives and down to Earth attitude. Great job.

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

All Nathan's shot were captured in RAW. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV

[@HesselFolkertsma]

I have to agree, I generally really like DRtv (used to be in one of their competitions) but CameraStoreTV does a perfect blend between information and humor. Keep it up guys!

[@yangboi88]

nice...i've been waiting for a review like this...with real life usage...i'll be looking forward to the next couple of videos.

[@dswatson83]

How did you process the Canon raw files. There are noted issues with the software Canon provided. The software is heavily softening the images though there are several methods to get around this. You may need to revisit these with Lightroom 4.1 with Canon support depending on what you used.

[@dfdtdfdx]

Please continue filming with D4. Low light shot was amazing with D4, can't get those types of shot with D800.

[@OngakuTurtle2]

great video... waited for you to make new videos.. love reviews.. really good to watch and informative :)

[@0y0chang0]

Excellent video, very professional, interesting comparisons, and really focuses on what is actually being produced by the cameras rather than just repeating camera manufacturer's spec sheets. Oh and that is some very nice camerawork with that D4. Would be interesting to compare the D4 to the D800.

[@mcrazza]

Yep. Full marks for this vid. Really good. It was quite interesting to hear Nathan's remarks about the two cameras from a portraiture perspective. I have to also say that his images looked SUPERB too. Nice insightful post script from Jordan about the D4 too. A little disappointed to hear about some of the D4's shortcomings. Looking forward to hearing what he has to say about the 5D3.

[@xchump]

nice video. good informative convos, straight to the point.

[@quickwitha45]

Awesome review very down to earth and professional ,Iv never looked twice at a Nikon no reason just happy with my two canon 5D mark II's you do credit to both and I like that! thank you, I will be getting a new canon 5D markIII I miss the 6 fps per second for sport etc the canon 1DX is just to expensive at the moment and I like the full frame.

[@NathanElson]

The light leak issue doesn't actually affect the final exposure, and it also only comes into play when doing super long exposures, which obviously based on a review shooting these cameras in a portrait situation, isn't a factor. So yes, in a portrait situation, they are very comparable cameras.

[@raredreamfootage]

Hey Jordan, I heard the D4 also has a 1.2 crop (and as does the D800), did you manage to see that in the settings?

[@appacana]

Guys, you have just kicked DigitalRev, Jared Polin, Dombower in the nuts with this video. Very awesome.

[@raouf.604]

awesome comparison. Best Ive seen. Im happily shooting with the 5d2. Will wait until canon brings the price down on the 5d3 then make the purchase. Subscribed!

[@mjames978]

Great review, well done, 10years on just purchased a secondhand D800

[@AyshaRemeithiStudio]

This is my favorite episode you guys did! Very informative and it was nice to see Jordan infront of the lens this time :) I am glad to know that Canon fixed the focus issue on the latest 5DMKIII.

[@Annettely]

Although the 5d mark ii is more useful for still photo shooting would it still be better for video film (moving pictures) as well since we dont need instant focusing?

[@SalahDemeer007]

was this video shot in 60 fps, looks so smooth...

[@NathanElson]

Images were imported directly into LR 4.1. No other software was used before viewing the RAW files, and no adjustments were made.

[@niccollsvideo]

We tried to keep parity as much as possible with 24-70 2.8s and the latest 70-200 2.8s from both companies. In the store we only had a Canon 1.2 50mm so we put that up against the Nikkor AF-s 50mm 1.4. Not the same but close. Most shooting was with the 70-200.

[@PhilippeClairo]

Shooting at ISO 25,000 (or so) isn't about being able to print at this point, but being able to shoot an image! I'm sure some journalists out there will benefit from it, so that the shot is in the can, but not always in your fashion mag! Having said that, glad to see both cameras at work in realistic situations, as always, great job!

[@alkevinzmedia]

thank you guys for this video and all of them really detailed and perplexed information that draws me to your videos :)

[@ceephoto1]

Great job as usual!!

[@michaelyen3116]

Excellent video. learned a lot from u guys. keep up the good work

[@rayabt4]

you guys did a real good job on this review, I was able to pick up a D800 but if I didn't have nikon glass I would pickup the 5d3.... thanks again

[@mp4podcastDOTcom]

When you check the ideo mode please check for moire and aliasing thank you.

[@1EKOstudio]

good and well organized review, hope to see more head to head comparisons from mirorless cameras too like ( lumix GX1 vs olympus ep3 ) and ( panasonic GH2 vs olympus OM-D)

[@JohnLamjohnlsl]

About the D4 power. Around how many min of video did you shoot before the D4 power run out?

[@MarkPatten]

It's taken me a while to get down to this part of the thread. Can you just clear up one other shooting detail with Part 1? Where you shooting in 12bit or 14bit RAW? Great vid. Enjoyed it. Now going to watch 2 & 3. Could REALLY do with clearing out some of the non-related comments here. I would have found this part a LOT faster. Just a suggestion.

[@TheCameraStoreTV]

You mean Nikon shooter Chris Niccolls? Jordan @ The Camera Store TV

[@MrBlofeld007]

Another Brilliant review.

[@krokodil191]

awesome as always..keep it up

[@Offstagemusic]

good job.. great team!! love this guys..

[@niccollsvideo]

You got it Xeno. Our next video in the series is going to focus on action photography and we should have lots of dark shadows and crappy light to deal with. We'll make sure to revisit this topic and push the files hard. Thanks for your input. Chris Niccolls

[@WilsonChiew]

Very nice review...

[@jim0_o]

Hey Jordan have you tested the D800 for video ? is the D4 the same as the D800 ?

[@fleetingdays]

Thank you Chris and Mallory! If I didn't have so much Canon Glass, I would consider a Nikon.

[@NathanElson]

Its not zoomed in more, its zoomed in at 100% for both photos based on their resolution. The higher resolution of the D800 makes for a larger image at 100%.

[@zoni2]

Nice review...

[@TyroneCLove]

Awesome vid, very useful, thanks guys.

[@jamesfield2442]

Awesome video guys

[@arazmas]

yea seriously... I don't know why most other camera gear videos are seriously so dumb. Thank you for the no nonsense unbiased wonderfully applicable real life tests that those of us who actually use our cameras appreciate. Keep up the great work!

[@numb5r]

nice comparison~ thanks team

[@WilliamsFamilyMoment]

what lens are you guys shooting with? the canon

[@StephenBoBeffin]

Good Lord this was a great video!!

[@NathanElson]

I could really say whatever I wanted, which is why they asked me to do the video :) There are no repercussions to any opinion that I have, and I'm a Nikon shooter (and actually so is Chris a.k.a. the other guy). Canon just happened to make a really good camera, and I think they are pretty on par with one another. All I can be is honest about it. Cheers