D800 vs Medium Format with Roth and Ramberg

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@gerdstuemer2181
@gerdstuemer2181 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah, really interesting review. It´s interesting to see that there are "experts" who really try to tell you that they can look at an iMac which has an sRGB screen with an 8bit graphics card and tell you they can actually see the difference between a 14 and a 16 bit raw. They compare a 16000 shades raw against a 65000 shades raw on a 256 shade monitor/gaphics card and try to tell us they can see the difference. Impressive
@S.D1010
@S.D1010 10 жыл бұрын
that photographer was really pissed whenever the d800 was better at something :D
@semyono11783
@semyono11783 9 жыл бұрын
The fact that they state that they need to "one up" other photographers who show up at their locations with their gear means they are not "photographers" in the first place. Good photography is based on light manipulation and composition.
@mr.tarkovish2587
@mr.tarkovish2587 7 ай бұрын
This☝🏻
@jkusui
@jkusui 12 жыл бұрын
"A lot of times we'll go on location with our Canon or our Nikon and someone will have the exact same camera. And that's something we can't have as professionals." That has to be one of the most ridiculous statements. Afraid that someone can get a better shot with the same camera?
@Orcinus24x5
@Orcinus24x5 12 жыл бұрын
In any business, regardless if it's photography or not, perceived impressions by your clients are -EXTREMELY- important. If someone is paying you thousands of dollars for a photo shoot and then one of their employees happens to drop by with the exact same gear, that client is going to think to themselves "wtf? did I just hire some amateur?" I know that the final product is important to the photographer, but to the client, first impressions and professionalism are just as important if not moreso.
@mr.tarkovish2587
@mr.tarkovish2587 7 ай бұрын
Yeah the thing is no clients even know the difference between a d800 and a Hass
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
Dale explained it to me this way: "If we show up to shoot an executive with a D800, there's a good chance he'll own one or a similar camera. When he sees us with the same camera, he will wonder why he's paying so much money for us to take his picture, as opposed to any other cheaper photographer. Perception is very important for high-end photography. Dale and Michelle can afford to shoot with the best gear, so why wouldn't they? Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@robogobo
@robogobo 11 жыл бұрын
"Because somebody else might have the same camera, and we can't have that." Oh my god what? I think that's the definition of kit snob.
@Animaduniversum
@Animaduniversum 5 жыл бұрын
I thinks it's a lot about differentiating oneself from amateurs with expensive gear in the eyes of costumers. Costumers often judge photographers by their gear. Sad but true.
@emmetkowler
@emmetkowler 7 жыл бұрын
Even in 2017, post-D850, this video is still a fascinating test
@kishascape
@kishascape 2 жыл бұрын
D850 stupid
@jasonthomason3541
@jasonthomason3541 10 жыл бұрын
You can tell the photographer is grasping at straws as to why the Hassleblad is better. Like they are defending their Hasselblad like no other. Then again, if I dumped $12,000 on a camera body only to realize that a $3,000 body came along and could get away with the same results, I'd be defensive too.
@RobertoAyalaFotografo
@RobertoAyalaFotografo 10 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to tell the photographer that "showing off" a better camera does not make him a better photographer.
@theblackjackchannel1082
@theblackjackchannel1082 4 жыл бұрын
But in this way clients perceive him as a better photographer
@Jonhillenbrandphotography
@Jonhillenbrandphotography 10 жыл бұрын
You guys didn't mention which camera calibration you were using for the two cameras in LR which makes a huge difference in how you interpret skin tones, shadow and highlight detail. Dale Roth said that he needs to keep shooting medium format so that he can keep those skin tones. But none of you seemed to explore the capabilities of the D800 in that area. Who shoots raw and doesn't edit their images? But probably the most telling comment at the end was by Dale Roth who said that the client can't have the same camera that we are shooting with. To me, that kind of dedication to an illusion is what brought down Kodak. And rightfully so.
@jasonthomason3541
@jasonthomason3541 10 жыл бұрын
I really don't understand that statement. Several successful photographers have a D5000 but they take better pictures than many people with the same camera. It's all about the photographer, not about the camera. If you're that worried about having a camera that nobody else can get, you should probably give up photography.
@BallardPhotoVideo
@BallardPhotoVideo 10 жыл бұрын
***** On the other hand if you show up to shoot a wedding with a T3i and kit lens I would be irritated lol of course this comparison is the value of a car difference though which is goofy in the first place
@Jonhillenbrandphotography
@Jonhillenbrandphotography 10 жыл бұрын
Sam Ballard I agree. I wouldn't place the D800 on the level of the T3i, but I get your meaning. I've shot two-page magazine ads with the D800 and have had great success. But I was fully prepared to defend the quality of the camera since it looks so small. I wouldn't mind Nikon coming out with a D4X with the sensor of the D810 but which shoots 11 fps and 4k video.
@BallardPhotoVideo
@BallardPhotoVideo 10 жыл бұрын
+ totally agree, and I def. understand the size compromise thoughts people have. We should petition Nikon for that =p
@brendant19
@brendant19 9 жыл бұрын
***** You're not wrong, but it's often entirely dependent on what it is that you're doing. I use a number of arguably unnecessary specialty items in my work because it makes the job go faster, smoother and increases the number of good images I can make in an hour. Can I produce good work without any extras? Of course, but if I am making good money and a piece of equipment is going to make things easier, why would I avoid it like it's a badge of honour? Take architecture/interiors for instance. Can you shoot them without a geared head? Yes. Can you shoot them without a TS lens? Yes. But if that's your specialty and it's in the budget, why would you want to and for what reason? The faster and smoother a shoot goes the better it is for everyone. I don't think anyone should shit on the guy using a D5000 if it works for him, but it's not going to be the best tool for everyone. That's why there is and has always been such a wide variety of options available.
@KocaMetallec
@KocaMetallec 12 жыл бұрын
TNX Guys for these FANTASTIC and no ordinary comparison ! Keep up the fantastic work! I'm glad I'm one of your subscribers :)
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
The D800E had not yet started shipping when we filmed this video. You can see our comparison of the D800E with the Pentax 645D on our channel. The Pentax has very similar image quality to the Hasselblad H4D-40. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
We would have, however we still have not received a D800E. We will be doing some testing with the D800E very soon, however. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@CHixon
@CHixon 10 жыл бұрын
If the Hasselblad owners weren't so arrogant the guy with the mic would have behaved too.
@Jokker88
@Jokker88 12 жыл бұрын
If your raw file is flat that means the sensor was able to capture the entire dynamic range of the scene and you can add the precise amount of contrast you want in post. If your RAW is contrasty that means it only almost, or did not capture the entire dynamic range, and if you try to pull back the contrast you will notice clipped highlights.
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more! Dale and Michelle have every reason to be arrogant, with their portfolio, but they are some of the most down to Earth, fun photographers I've met. They may have been a bit more stiff when a camcorder is pointed at them, but the impressions of many people on here are off the mark. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@NathanElson
@NathanElson 12 жыл бұрын
I'd be more interested in seeing your work, please do post a link, because I am assuming you must be amazing.
@gustavocampos1969
@gustavocampos1969 11 жыл бұрын
this was the BEST review I've seen on internet, not just about the D800, but overall. Congratulations! And from now on, just subscribed!!! :)
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
We're doing a D800e shoot with Nick Devlin of Luminous Landscapes in a couple weeks. I think we may have to bring out another medium format camera... Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@dphotos007
@dphotos007 12 жыл бұрын
I have been in this business since the 80's and all my old film RZ's and 4x5 sit in my closet. I shoot with the 5D Mark ll and lll. Most of my work is editorial. I did get more respect at a shoot with bigger film cameras than in today's time but in the end it is the image you deliver that gets the recognition, respect and further work.
@notstonedmason
@notstonedmason 11 жыл бұрын
best mic guy ever
@soapmeridius
@soapmeridius 10 жыл бұрын
TROOPER
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
See the D800 field test with Nick Devlin. We go landscape shooting with Pentax 645D & D800E.
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
Depends on the format, but between 75 & 85mm. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@Houstontexxxas
@Houstontexxxas 12 жыл бұрын
Wow! This was a lot of work! Thank you so much for doing this, your results were fantastic. Great job on an VERY interesting and informative video. Thanks again
@Full_Deflection
@Full_Deflection 9 жыл бұрын
I'd be curious to see the results when compared to the D810.
@jokelovers481
@jokelovers481 4 жыл бұрын
no difference I have both
@gerdstuemer2181
@gerdstuemer2181 10 жыл бұрын
If skin tones are that important to them, why don´t they profile the cameras first? The whole video is sn insult to the intelligence of the viewer. "It does´t compare at all" of course, because this is no real comparism. Please get the right people for the job, think a lot and do the whole thing correctly and if you want to compare sharpness, use an OTUS or Sigma Art instead of a 400$ Standard lens.
@danijell6539
@danijell6539 11 жыл бұрын
At 16:18 the guy sums it all up in one sentence, we must have something better than amateurs when we appear for shooting. I don't understand how companies like Hasselblad survive these days when you can have outstanding image quality from cameras costing less than a $1000. Even crop sensors today are stellar stuff with a good prime lens on.
@NotMitch69
@NotMitch69 9 жыл бұрын
Well, that was uncomfortable...
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's still coming.
@jcax44
@jcax44 12 жыл бұрын
Are u guys still planning to do the video comparison of the 5d mark iii and the nikon D800? Cheers.
@mygoodstuffreviewed
@mygoodstuffreviewed 12 жыл бұрын
Very interesting comparision. Judging by what I saw, rather than what they said, I'd go for the D800 over the Hasselblad even if they were the same price. What seems to be true, based on lots of reviews like this, is just how closely you have to look to see any significant difference between decent cameras these days. I rather suspect most of us just don't need - and wouldn't really notice - the slight difference you'd get in everyday shooting.
@Dombowerphoto
@Dombowerphoto 10 жыл бұрын
An art director was required for those shit photos? Hair on the floor... Requires a 40mp medium format £30,000 camera..... Ha!
@101jumpit
@101jumpit 10 жыл бұрын
Spot on Dom !!!
@Freepepsi42
@Freepepsi42 10 жыл бұрын
I find this really funny considering you probably didn't take the time to check out their portfolio before, you know, talking shit about what they do.
@Freepepsi42
@Freepepsi42 10 жыл бұрын
Ridley Disambiguation Yeah maybe you should take a look at their portfolio here roth-ramberg.squarespace.com , let's see yours...
@DividedLine
@DividedLine 10 жыл бұрын
Daniel Pryce Their portfolio is gorgeous.
@Freepepsi42
@Freepepsi42 10 жыл бұрын
fstoppers.com/education/dont-be-annoying-whiny-photographer-social-media-57203 You guys should take a read... Stop being that guy...
@dvdragon
@dvdragon 12 жыл бұрын
I can see small differences. It is really hard to tell. Is there anyway we could view the RAWs?
@ionyou
@ionyou 10 жыл бұрын
What with the guy that keeps passing out? Is that from the Hasselblad's price tag?
@ChamberlainCody
@ChamberlainCody 10 жыл бұрын
This video should discourage NO ONE I have sold prints from my iPhone! And my main camera is a t3i I actually switched from a 7d because I didn't need all it has to offer and Im able to pull beautiful images out of this camera.:)
@ThePunisher005
@ThePunisher005 10 жыл бұрын
Hats off for this video, well setup, tests were done really carefully, I'm really impressed with how close the D800 can get to MF legendary camera... Technically speaking the results were so close that its really hard to distinguish the difference, keeping into consideration that the amount of skin tones will not really matter when you start printing, as you loose allot in colors and resolution in that process. Having said that as professional you cant carry same gear like anyone else, and i do agree that professionals needs to have their own gear. Thanks for the video its really amazing.
@DrummingSpain
@DrummingSpain 11 жыл бұрын
This poor presenter had to tip-toe through this comparison just in case he offended these rich freaks. And anyway, the D800 looks super cool, the medium format something from 1975
@razorseal
@razorseal 11 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100% Ridiculous...
@_Chantelle
@_Chantelle 11 жыл бұрын
Like watching into a a clothing store full of snobs...awkward lol
@PsyDei
@PsyDei 10 жыл бұрын
And it didn't matter, I totally believe that they talked shit about him when he left.
@WhittyPics
@WhittyPics 8 жыл бұрын
I want to know how the D800 stacks up against different film formats like 4X5 or 8X10 sheet film.
@patolobos8266
@patolobos8266 8 жыл бұрын
Hope you can make the same D800 versus the new Fujifilm medium format.
@GetOutsideYourself
@GetOutsideYourself 12 жыл бұрын
Really cool video comparison, and nice the video quality was high enough to note the differences. I wonder how the Leica would compare.
@fishnose1
@fishnose1 12 жыл бұрын
THIS is how a useful comparative test is done!! Thanks guys!
@BenX74
@BenX74 10 жыл бұрын
Only when you have a direct comparison (like 9:12), you can see, what an amazing job the Hasselblad really does when it comes to skin tones and range of tones. This is absulutely stunning! The D800 pictures look like the pictures I usually take and the ones from the Hasselblad look like the pictures, I always WANTED to take. This might be a stupid question, but is there absolutely no way to get Hasselblad skin tones and range of tones out of an enthusiast-level DSLR like a Nikon D7100?
@CHixon
@CHixon 10 жыл бұрын
Try the Hasselblad lenses on the D7100
@Robboa1
@Robboa1 12 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, our friends at Luminous Landscape have started testing the D800 and D800e, and the e version's resolution is noticeable. Also, moire doesn't seem to be a concern with the e. I wonder how the 800e would do against the Hassy - the difference in resolution would definitely diminish.
@ichandre975
@ichandre975 12 жыл бұрын
so medium format is better than full-frame?
@rjhouse93
@rjhouse93 9 жыл бұрын
Can't say I agree with the comment about having to have the best gear possible because someone on the shoot might have the same camera you do. You can have all the best gear but still take a worse photo than Chase Jarvis with an Iphone.
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 9 жыл бұрын
+Robert Houseman Right, but the clients are paying a very high premium for the best commercial photographers in the region, they don't want those people showing up with the same camera they own. Perception is a huge part of the commercial photography business, and Roth and Ramberg have done so well because they create stunning images AND bring gear to a shoot that other companies can't provide. Check out their website if you doubt their abilities: www.rothandramberg.com/ Jordan @ TCSTV
@rjhouse93
@rjhouse93 9 жыл бұрын
+TheCameraStoreTV I am not doubting their ability. I just caution others that view this and think they have to get the best of the best to make great images. The only reason I say this is because I perceived that specific comment as saying if you want to be taken seriously you need the highest end gear. It's a sad fact that exists in this world.
@joekrepps
@joekrepps 8 жыл бұрын
+Robert Houseman Yes. Sadly so true. My work is hardly the most glamorous or demanding. I shoot new & used vehicles for the 2nd largest car dealer group in York Co. (Pa.). My "competition" isn't another photographer but a dealer who's content handing an iPod Touch or a Point & Shoot from Wal-Mart to their Detail/Clean-up guys. My Nikon D5300 isn't the most impressive camera out there but, wearing a DSLR around my neck with the bright yellow "Nikon" on the neck strap gives me a degree of credibility....and, hopefully, some job security. I still hope they'll hire me as a full-time employee, complete with a modest camera budget. I'm well over 100k on the shutter count in less than 2 years.
@hitoshir4886
@hitoshir4886 8 жыл бұрын
The Lens of Hasselblad H4D-40 is POOR. So, the Result is POOR. Hasselblad H4D-40, itself is excellent. The Lens of the Nikon D800 and the Nikon D800 , both are excellent
@jkcrespo91
@jkcrespo91 11 жыл бұрын
I love their attitude... We can't have the same camera as someone else on site?! We need to be better?! (Arrogant much?) I'm pretty sure I could easily find someone a lot better shooting canon or Nikon
@93thelema777
@93thelema777 10 жыл бұрын
It seems arrogant , but you've also got to account for the perceptions of their customers . At the end of the day it's economical for these types of studio photographers to present a professional image , even if it's purely superficial . Presenting a particular image is important for a business . It doesnt hurt to look professional . I'm not saying he's not arrogant though .
@Kalavere
@Kalavere 12 жыл бұрын
I've just discovered TheCameraStoreTV, what an amazing channel. I LOVE watching these videos!
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
It's coming, we're just looking for a suitable shooting scenario. Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@AminTheMystic
@AminTheMystic 10 жыл бұрын
A lot depends on the respective lenses - as you get different level of detail. There is huge difference between using a lens like CZ Outs and a kit lens.
@TheBabyBobot
@TheBabyBobot 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, I am now a proud owner of a Hassy H5D40. Matched that with Broncolor lighting for truly awesome Tones and color reproduction made my money back in 4months of ownership. Sweetest part I am shooting less, and reprinting and licensing more.
@bigdaddy4302
@bigdaddy4302 8 жыл бұрын
TheBabyBobot good for you, n00b
@raptor2285
@raptor2285 11 жыл бұрын
Yes, but we're looking at RAW files. You want your raw file to have as much information as possible, and in this case the Hassie has way more colour information and a better flat image for post processing. When they are looking at the photos of the hair on the ground for sharpness, notice how much flatter the blad photo is. That's a good thing because it gives you more tonal information to play with in processing.
@schumionbike
@schumionbike 12 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that happen to me before, I was shooting an event with my D90, and one of the guest asked what it was and she said she have a D700. The D700 and D300 type of camera and below isn't uncommon among amateur or people who just can simply afford it. It doesn't mean that they will take better photo but it does avoid arkward moments. Btw, I do pro-grade gears as far as lenses and such but it's just that I use the D90 with it. Time to get a grip :)
@ajuk1
@ajuk1 12 жыл бұрын
Why did you not compare prints?
@pualux
@pualux 12 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the retina displays? I'm not sure what you're talking about cause I think apple display monitors are comfortable to work with.
@RomainSandt
@RomainSandt 11 жыл бұрын
Are you really comparing on an Imac shinny screen? By the way, I use Hasselblad for work, I just tried the D800E huge player, you should try it.
@photopicker
@photopicker 12 жыл бұрын
I didn't catch it in the beginning but I do hope both cameras were shooting Zeiss. It makes a difference. One of the reasons I switched from Canon to Zeiss was because of the micro contrast and color rendering. The Hassy doesn't have an AA so in fact resolution is quite impressive for the d800. I wonder what Zeiss looks like on the d800. In fact the Hassy Zeiss could be mounted on the Nikon and would have provided a better camera test.
@TheOverlordOfProcrastination
@TheOverlordOfProcrastination 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome review, and the feinting at the finale was laugh out loud hilarious because you guys looked....frankly amused. I just hope that poor guy is ok. Niceeeee.
@yamaharider4now
@yamaharider4now 12 жыл бұрын
nice video, but on the ISO comparison portion of the video that part you picked as a reference on the motorcycle was NOT an exhaust pipe.... it was a water pump hose.
@DJaysParadise
@DJaysParadise 11 жыл бұрын
Sure it is your personal opinion but what is it based on? Looking at the images from a technical aspect it is rather easy to push the hassie's image to the D800 look whereas it is hard or impossible to do the opposite.
@Quimera42
@Quimera42 12 жыл бұрын
How can you judge from a compressed video the quality of pictures?
@baldassare01
@baldassare01 12 жыл бұрын
do you get the same picture quality with different laptops?
@CanicularesDies
@CanicularesDies 12 жыл бұрын
At the end, in the conclusions, the photographer states that he needs the Hasselblad's software to send images to the art director's iPad as a big plus for the Hassy. I'm not sure if it can be done with the D800 tethered but it can be done untethered with a CF and an SD-WiFi, just send the RAW's to the CF and the JPEG's to the SD and automatically the iPad would pick up the pics, using the EyeFi's software, for the Art Director to enjoy.
@frankgregoryii5646
@frankgregoryii5646 11 жыл бұрын
The lady had the nerve to say that the D800 looked washed out when it was the other way around to me. The Hassey looked flat and washed out. I think the skin looked good too.
@tejas873
@tejas873 12 жыл бұрын
so exactly what justifies the 20k price point?
@cherkassky92
@cherkassky92 12 жыл бұрын
I saw the video, great one btw. Really love what u guys are doing, thanks for the great videos.
@LGCooper1
@LGCooper1 11 жыл бұрын
Interesting video but I do have just one question ... ... Is your sound guy ok? That looked (and sounded) like a pretty nasty fall right at the end there
@writeDVD
@writeDVD 11 жыл бұрын
This is a very intelligent comparative exercise. Good work.
@SLRist
@SLRist 12 жыл бұрын
Love the sound man falling over again at the end. Very funny indeed. My D800 is arriving on Monday. I'm a very happy camper right now.
@sosijiz1971
@sosijiz1971 12 жыл бұрын
Informative, interesting and an all round pleasant video! Top stuff guys!
@mynameispek
@mynameispek 12 жыл бұрын
If you pull down the saturation, sharpness, contrast on the D800 you can get a closer skin colour to the hasselblad. Standard picture control is a little bit "tuned up"..
@VictorPanlilio
@VictorPanlilio 12 жыл бұрын
What, no comparison with the PhaseOne iQ180 80-megapixel back? ;)
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 12 жыл бұрын
Mark fainted while holding the boom and landed on his face. He spent the night in the hospital, broke his nose and messed up his mouth. He's doing OK now.
@EmotionSideUp
@EmotionSideUp 12 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget that aspect ratio plays apart in the final resolution and framing. The HB square-ish will have higher resolution when the D800 is cropped on the side to bring it to the same square-ish format. Same thing applies to the HB when cropped top & bottom to bring it closer to the D800's native format. on a different note, maybe The Camera Store should have some catering at their production, I'd say the boom operator had the case of the 12hr shoot fatigue syndrome :P
@WillBinks
@WillBinks 12 жыл бұрын
good review, although something NOT mentioned on any of these and the canon vs nikon videos are the LENSES. The (Im guessing Zeiss) lens vs the nikon just in itself will pull a huge marginal difference in colors and resolution alone, before the sensor even matters.
@PeihuiBrandonYeo
@PeihuiBrandonYeo 12 жыл бұрын
Why dont they try to compare both to a film? i do wanna see what happen
@pdanabie
@pdanabie 12 жыл бұрын
Working professionally with both acr raw and Lightroom 4 I would like to add that my experience with this software Has shown Nikon files are processed too clean and this would affect your results. Both camera files would have to be closely matched to make decisions on dynamic range etc.
@Eliguitar1
@Eliguitar1 12 жыл бұрын
doen't sensor size still trump all else (if a comparable number of MP is on both sensors being compared)?
@Jokker88
@Jokker88 12 жыл бұрын
High raw saturation/vibrance is usually a bad sign since it means one or more color channel is overexposed which also causes color shift since the red green and blue channel don't have the proper ratios anymore since if one is blown during exposure the other two will catch up to it during exposure causing wrong color balance. The H4D shot while maybe not looking as striking to the laymen still looks to have a lot more data to work with in post-processing.
@eireannsg
@eireannsg 12 жыл бұрын
You could have tried different lenses because lenses used with the D800 can have quite an influence on the tones. Maybe the guys face was a bit red with the lens you used but there are lenses which give a cooler tone and less reddish skin times
@ikeywah
@ikeywah 12 жыл бұрын
I thought Roth and Ramberg were very honest and diplomatic. They were so open to the new possibilities that the D800 brings to the photography world. The D800 is a very versatile machine.
@likeawhispr
@likeawhispr 11 жыл бұрын
If you listened with understanding you'd recall that what he said regarding having the same camera as another photographer (meaning someone using a typical DSLR for work that would benefit using a more capable rig) is "... in a way that's more important". Which is something most commercial shooters know EXACTLY what he meant.
@Grannygrudel
@Grannygrudel 12 жыл бұрын
I actually prefer the warmer temps out of the camera of the D800, plus the fact if you not only do commercial, but do weddings, landscape, portrait as well i’d say the Nikon is better for an all rounder.
@yellowpanda04
@yellowpanda04 11 жыл бұрын
so what? but if you got the money , would you get the Hassy or the D800 toy camera?
@funincluded
@funincluded 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining that, I didn't know what created that difference.
@nathantw
@nathantw 12 жыл бұрын
I saw a huge difference in an image that was just ignored. If you look at the gas cap on the motorcycle you can easily see the ribs on the cap on the Hasselblad whereas on the D800 the details were blown away in the highlights. In a lot of cases that's a make or break situation.
@NikollJP
@NikollJP 12 жыл бұрын
The Hasselblad 200MS megapixel is actually a Multishot camera. The sensor is only 50megapixels but the camera takes 6 shots to create a full photo. It's aimed at luxury product photography for billboards.
@Isle0fRed
@Isle0fRed 12 жыл бұрын
what caused him to faint/pass out?
@eireannsg
@eireannsg 12 жыл бұрын
For DSLRs its typical that you can pull more details out of the shadows while for film you can pull more out of the highlights. You could have tried Adobe Camera Raw to get even more out of the highlights but then: the Hasselblad has 16bits per pixel and the Nikon only 14bit which can make a difference.
@cadmus777
@cadmus777 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent presenter, kept them in the discussion and didn't get them offside at all. And the two 'experts' were absolutely nowhere near as douchey as the other comments make them out to be, and their conclusions showed that. The iPad and laptop don't need to be calibrated perfectly to give you an idea when on a shoot if the skintones are coming up well or not. Very well put together segment - and more people need to stop being so sensitive!
@ajuk1
@ajuk1 12 жыл бұрын
Why is the Hasselblad getting beaten at high ISOs when the Blad has much bigger pixels, it is just the Blad is not designed with low light shooting in mind?
@QuagliaE
@QuagliaE 11 жыл бұрын
Dude, I have both Nikon and Phase One gear and just one Canon body and lens. You truly have no idea what you're talking about. Plus, can you please link us some of you amazing shots?
@charlesajking
@charlesajking 12 жыл бұрын
The best you can say is that he is, at least, honest about the need to game the client in order to justify their fees. I'm sure there are plenty of art directors out there dumb enough to believe that you need a $30k camera to take decent photos, and that's the market to which they have to cater.
@yellowpanda04
@yellowpanda04 11 жыл бұрын
hey Chris , great vid, this showed me how much better MFDB is than my D800 camera and I guess I would have to save up for that one.
@Quimera42
@Quimera42 12 жыл бұрын
I didn't say that it inverts anything. I meant that it's very difficult to have a really detailed view with all levels and shadows they mention because video itself flats images and maybe the worst part in it its for the Hasselblad. Besides, as other people said raws from the Hasselblad could be better worked in postproduction.
@DeanAgarPhotography
@DeanAgarPhotography 12 жыл бұрын
To add though (how rude of me), I enjoyed it a lot, and thank you for taking the time to do such a useful test.
@rothandramberg5764
@rothandramberg5764 12 жыл бұрын
oops cant spell know. The portraits were taken at the same settings, if they look different its because that's how each camera registered them. The hair photos were purposely overexposed so the client could see the vision of how we wanted the finals too look. Good thing we had dynamic range! The tank photos were shot in auto on both cameras also to compare that feature. The Nikon is a great camera and we will probably get one for the other shoots we do that require speed and high ISO.
@WhittyPics
@WhittyPics 8 жыл бұрын
I've heard that Capture One Pro is the software for tethered shooting.
@amnonhanuhov1467
@amnonhanuhov1467 12 жыл бұрын
hey when will you do a video about the fujifilm S3200 please do a video about S3200 as soon as you can thank Amnon Hanuhov
@sealion16
@sealion16 12 жыл бұрын
And the more shallow depth of field the better the picture right? Have you ever shot with a 85mm 1.4? It can make the nose out of focus while keeping eyes in focus. What more do you want? I could care less if the dof is shallower. Are you trying to shoot people's nose hairs and blur out the rest of their face?
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