Canon EOS M50 + Canon EF-S Lenses | The Perfect Pair?

[@luismartins3262]

Having come from the US to Portugal, where I now permanently reside, I was searching for a reliable used gear company. I have heard of MPB but have no idea if they were trustworthy or not. Well, having seen your videos for a while now, I feel I can trust your judgement. I actually shoot with the M50 II and am looking for a 11-22 and the 22mm f2, to go with my 18-150. Now I feel a lot better in doing business with this company. Cheers.

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

He Luis - I am pleased to hear that. I have been dealing with MPB for a while now and can only report good things. I have always been impressed with the condition of the gear that I have had from them and there are big savings to be had compared with buying new. I hope your experience is as good as mine. Not sure if they have a centre in Portugal, I think the European branch of the company is run from Berlin, Germany.

[@VangelisMatosMedina]

M50 landscape photographer here. I use EF-s glass: 10-18 18-135 55-250 24 2.8

[@Fjzk952]

I agree with you that the M50 is one of the most underrated camera for stills out there. Although I also have a FF kit I usually travel with the M50 and only 3 small lenses (11-22, 18-150 and 22 F2 for low light). All in a very small and lightweight camera bag!

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

Sounds like a great little setup. Got everything covered there!

[@RalphGoldsmith]

Interesting view Chris. I started using my M50 (which I bought for video) as my main stills camera as the weight of my full frame "pro" body and lenses was causing problems with an old back injury. That was supposed to be a temporary solution and 15 months later I'm still using it because it is such a good setup and, as you said, much underrated. I have the native lenses (11-22, 15-45 and 55-200) and these are excellent and have the advantage of being small and light like the camera itself. The weakest of the lenses is the 15-45 in my opinion and even that isn't bad. I also have a nifty 7.5mm fisheye that is great for some creative stuff. Thanks for sharing your thoughts

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

Thanks Ralph - I have sold prints taken with the 15-45 but it can be a bit hit and miss - I have found it very prone to chromatic aberations in certain light. I have said it before... if Canon did L series lenses for the EF-M mount I would switch immediately!

[@shanephillips7704]

Love it. Thats the same camera I use and I use a dozen or more EF lenses. They work very well!

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

Any EF-S lenses Shane?

[@grat2010]

Still loving my M50. I have both EFM and EFS lenses for it. I just don't like the additional weight of the adapter. The light weight of the M50 with native EFM lenses is perfect for hikes and family travel photos

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

Can I ask - which EF-S lenses do you use on the M50 and how do you get on with them?

[@grat2010]

Sorry for the late reply. The efs 18-135 (newer version) is my favorite walk-around travel lens because the focal range is so practical. A newer purchase is the 55-250 STM (newer model) and it's pretty sharp. Bought it based on great reviews on several sites.

[@derbagger22]

I love using my Sigma 150-600 C lens adapted to my M50. You almost can't see the camera, but love the 900mm reach. You're so right, it's a highly underrated camera!

[@alexandermenzies9954]

How does it have a 900mm "reach", d? Does the sensor plate detect the 600mm lens and then tell it to somehow increase its magnification? Or did you mean the angle of view, not its magnification, is equivalent to a 900mm lens?

[@KevinNordstrom]

@@alexandermenzies9954 because the m50 is not a fullframe camera that replicates the size of traditional 35mm, where as a crop sesnor camera like the m50 has a smaller sensor and crops the edges of the photo to produce a tighter image automatically puts the 150-600, to a 240-960mm lens

[@alexandermenzies9954]

@@KevinNordstrom Mmm, I'll have to think about that..:-).

[@KevinNordstrom]

@@alexandermenzies9954 has it's pros and cons. Pro being lighter. More portable. More reach. Cons being typically worse in low light conditions. Full frame cameras usually have better dynamic range and can gather more light into the sensor. But they are of course more money. The m50 is still a great camera on a budget and extremely versitile

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

That extra reach is why my 'back-up' for the FF DSLR is a cropped mirrorless camera. Turns my 70-200 into a 112-320 with no impact on image quality from what I can tell. That extra 120mm makes all the difference and means I don't have to blow a bundle on a 100-400mm.

[@derbagger22]

I checked out MPB after I had sold some equipment to KEH. MPB's prices seem to be a bit better buying used!

[@petercollins7848]

MPB are superb. All the equipment I have received from them has been fantastic and at great prices too!

[@jimwlouavl]

Nice photos, Chris, and a good suggestion for M50 owners or someone combining a family vacation with making photos.

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

Thanks Jim - I was super impressed with the combination of this little camera and these lenses. Already saving my pocket money! :)

[@Nils.steiner]

I'm using my M50 with a Sigma Art 18-35 and an EF 70-300 L lens. Such a great combination for all purposes.

[@stefan_es]

Hello. It's been many years since the 80D/77D came out, but I'm asking myself the same question. Now I have a Canon 600D, and I no longer lack its capabilities (of course 😅). I choose between 77D and M50. My main task is to shoot photos (I want to shoot commercials: portraits, custom family scenes, and some street photography). The video is most likely secondary (although I don’t know for sure). There is no money for a full frame yet. What do you recommend from these two devices? The bad ergonomics of the M50 and the lack of control buttons, as it is on the 77D, scares me (How do I quickly change the settings in manual mode when my hands are gloved in winter?). However, they tell me from everywhere: "2023, buy a mirrorless camera (they mean M50)"

[@lego_minifig]

I upgraded to the m50 mkii from a 2000d for photography for precisely this reason. It’s compatible with all my old lenses. The ef-s 55-250mm st, is my favorite lens to adapt. I have absolutely no desire to get a native telephoto anytime soon as a result. Pair it with the ef-m 15-45mm kit lens and a ef-m 23mm f1.4 viltrox prime and I have pretty much every basis covered. Wide, telephoto, and low light. All fits neatly in my 6L peak design sling. The ef-s 18-135mm (the non stm version) is a great lens, but it’s a big boi. Haven’t tried adapting it yet partly since I messed up the auto focus when removing a lose screw that was dangling about in it and haven’t had time to fix the AF yet. I mostly haven’t tried because of its size. Don’t think I’d use that lens on the m50 with the existence of the much smaller ef-m 18-150mm. Still love that lens on my 2000d though for an allrounder lens. When ever I let my friends borrow my cameras they always gravitate to its versatility over the primes in my collection.

[@stefan_es]

Hello. It's been many years since the 80D/77D came out, but I'm asking myself the same question. Now I have a Canon 600D, and I no longer lack its capabilities (of course 😅). I choose between 77D and M50. My main task is to shoot photos (I want to shoot commercials: portraits, custom family scenes, and some street photography). The video is most likely secondary (although I don’t know for sure). There is no money for a full frame yet. What do you recommend from these two devices? The bad ergonomics of the M50 and the lack of control buttons, as it is on the 77D, scares me. However, they tell me from everywhere: "2023, buy a mirrorless camera (they mean M50)"

[@glockman9c]

I already have EF and EFS lenses for my 77D, do I really need to buy the EF-M versions if I buy a M50II? (EFS 55-250, EF 18-135mm, EF 50mm, 24mm pancake, EFS10-18mm, EFS 18-55mm II, etc.... I was thinking about buying M50II with the kit 15-45 since its only $100 more. I can also get the EF-M 55-200 for an addition $229. Opinions?

[@Yodah97]

You don't need the EF-M glass. Just get the adapter. And the ef-m lenses are cheap as hell used -- the 15-45mm goes for less than $50 in most stores. And there is a ton of them because people get it as a kit lens.

[@stubloggs6358]

Have considered the M50 for a few years now as a back-up for my 70D(as I do have 4 EF-S lenses)........I purchased an M100 for my wife with a Commlite adapter and it works very well with my EF-S lenses, will now be looking for a used M50 for myself...............great video Chris...........ATB.......Stu....👍.

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

Thanks Stu - I also have an M100 but I haven't used it since I bought the second M50 (one for vlogging, one for stills). I really need the EVF when shooting hand held.

[@stubloggs6358]

@@ChrisSalePhoto Yes the lack of a EVF on the M100 is a huge drawback, just use it for video, hence considering the M50, tnx Chris I appreciate the feedback.

[@stefan_es]

I would like to ask you how the owner of the 70D. What advice would you give to a photographer? Now I have a 600D, but it is very old and no longer took me. I choose between 77D and M50. My task is to take photos (I want to shoot commercials: portraits, family subjects to order, and some street photos). What do you recommend from these two devices? The bad ergonomics of the M50 and the lack of control buttons scare me. How do I quickly change settings in manual mode on the M50? However, they tell me from everywhere: "2023, buy a mirrorless camera" (they mean M50). I want to point out that I'm not going to invest in M ​​lenses. I'm going to use my own EF /EF-s optics.

[@stubloggs6358]

@@stefan_es If you want to use the camera mainly for photography I would personally go for a DSLR . The 80D is slightly better than the 77D and you can pick one up (used in good condition) for around £400.......The M50 is a good camera but as you say that would mean investing in new lenses so I think the 80D would be the right choice for you (24.2mp, 7fps and dual pixel auto focus) hope this helps.

[@PamelaRuddyUKart]

Ha, I came to this conclusion too when my 7D finally gave up the ghost. I went for the M50 with the lens adapter, really great shutter speed and much better for video than my old camera. I like wildlife photography and KZbin so having a camera that can do both is great.

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

Really Pamela? We must be kindred spirits! May I ask, what lenses do you use on the M50?

[@Zero_hk]

im getting the EF 75-300mm F/4-5.6 III Lens, how would that compare to these stms?

[@huwalban]

MPB are an excellent company. I've had several l-mount lenses from them to partner with my recent Sigma fpL purchase. Their black Friday deals were good as well - 30% off as I seem to remember.

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

Good to hear that you have had a good experience with MPB mate - I have been so impressed with them that it was me that reached out to them for our up and coming collaboration, not the other way around as is usually the case.

[@huwalban]

@@ChrisSalePhoto Fair play to you sir, and good on you for taking the initiative. Clearly it paid off :)

[@edieduard3285]

M50 Mark II este super .Prima camera a fost un canon 4000 D , pe care il folosesc cu drag , apoi pt filmari pe you tube am achizitionat un canon M 50 II cu obiectiv 15-45 , dar simteam ca am prea putin asa ca am cumparat un obiectiv macro pt M 22 mm ,apoi un adaptor canon EF S - M , apoi obiectivul EF-S 10-18 mm , EF S 24 mm, EF 50 mm , iar Sigma 28-70 mm vintage pt canon l-am primit cadou , pt zoom sunt pt un Sigma 18-250 foarte accesibil pe Amazon . Este o pasiune foarte frumoasa pt timpul liber , costisitoare , dar cu multe satisfactii personale . Cel mai recent aparat este canon R 10 cu 18-45 mm pt filmari din mai multe unghiuri si astept de pe Amazon adaptorul EF-R , sper sa invat cat mai multe despre fotografie si filmari , pt sunet folosesc un microfon Wavo joby foarte calitativ la fel ca si Rode . I curand vreau sa achizitionez pt sunet la distanta un lavalier simplu sau dublu Rode , dar urmeaza , pacat ca obiectivele canon M nu pot fi folosite si pe alte monturi , dar gasim alte variante .

[@glockman9c]

Just got a M50II with EF-M 22m and 15-45mm and have a bag full of EF-S lenses for my 77D. Trying to figure out if I really need to buy EF-M lenses.

[@Yodah97]

You only need them if the smaller size is a absolute must for you, really. And you can't beat the small size of the 22mm.

[@MiguelACoronaDM]

When you're packing light, nothing beats a small kit with great glass. I'm a big fan of a small kit for hiking (even though I just sold off all my M4/3 gear). Now looking for a small mirrorless Nikon option. Not familiar with the Canon M50 and lens options but looks like you got some very good results. I've not used MPB, but with the exception of a few lenses, I purchase most of my gear from other reputable used shops like them. No complaints ever with the quality of their products - not to mention their great return policies. I will probably purchase my new small mirrorless used. One can't go wrong with the savings. BTW - liked the number 7 shot and that one image of the tree that looked like it was painted on a canvas : )

[@Fjzk952]

For more samples of the M50 and M glass performance you can take a look at Ralph Goldsmith’s YT channel…he is a landscape photographer based in Spain who replaced his large FF kit by this light weight system with very good results. Also, if you run the M50 files through DxO pureraw you will get a very significant IQ boost!

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

Hey Miguel - if you do go for a new small mirrorless do you think you'd consider the M50?

[@MiguelACoronaDM]

@@ChrisSalePhoto Absolutely. A good friend is actually getting one. I'm hoping he'll let me take a look. A good compact is something I need. : )

[@RiccardoPareschi]

Really interesting. We have some EF and EF-S lenses and the Eos M50 maybe the next buy... is light and powerful.

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

I think it is definitely worth considering Riccardo - this little camera punches above it's weight and with these EF-S lenses it is super versatile.

[@gordonmelrose57]

Good video Chris. I’ve been thinking about an M50 to reduce the weight on my old shoulders. Have you been getting a drone?

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

Hi Gordon - nice to hear from you, hope you are well? If you have a line up of EF-S lenses then I think the M50 could be a very good bet for you. Yes, I have a drone now, just to add a bit of variety to my b-roll and show of the Lakes a little better. Trying my hardest not to bother too many people with it. They can be quite annoying at times.

[@jbairdexp]

Excellent work as always mate. Good to see your trusted M50 getting a bit of variety in focal lengths. Getting used is a great option as well. It's a fantastic way to expand your kit bag. :-)

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

Think I am hooked on the little camera and these cropped sensor lenses. Will never replace the L series lenses for my 'proper' stuff but will be lighter and with the same focal range - perfect for our next big hike!

[@jbairdexp]

@@ChrisSalePhoto Which be soon I hope!

[@helstor]

I would just get the EF-M 11-22mm and the EF-M 55-200mm (or EF-M 18-150mm). The EF-S lenses are bigger and heavier and with the adapter as well there is a lot of extra weight to carry on hikes :-)

[@HulldaveI]

I have the EF-M 11-22mm and 55-200mm together with the 15-45 kit lens. The perfect lightweight set up for hiking. I also have the Viltrox adapter with the Canon EF 50mm and 100mm primes (both kept when I sold my Canon 60D). Not used these but will give them a try after watching Chris' video.

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

For me it comes down to the price - the EF-S 10-18 is more than £100 cheaper then the EF-M 11-22 at the moment on MPB. And it is only 20g heavier - even with the adapter, I doubt I'd notice the difference. Another thing that I have found is the because I have big hands, the M50 can be fiddly to hold with an EF-M lens attached. Adding something like the EF-S 18-135 (which is actually pretty heavy, granted) makes it easier for me to handle.

[@Yodah97]

@@ChrisSalePhoto The trick is that the M50 body and the 18-135mm lens weigh about the same. So the combined set should feel very well-balanced and easy to hold. Or at least that's what I'm hoping for -- I'm planning on buying both next month. Thank you for the video!

[@stefan_es]

Hello. It's been many years since the 80D/77D came out, but I'm asking myself the same question. Now I have a Canon 600D, and I no longer lack its capabilities (of course 😅). I choose between 77D and M50. My main task is to shoot photos (I want to shoot commercials: portraits, custom family scenes, and some street photography). The video is most likely secondary (although I don’t know for sure). There is no money for a full frame yet. What do you recommend from these two devices? The bad ergonomics of the M50 and the lack of control buttons, as it is on the 77D, scares me. However, they tell me from everywhere: "2023, buy a mirrorless camera (they mean M50)"

[@gtaliano]

In fact 77D is a mirrorless too if you use liveView. You can have the best of both worlds. Only Downside is that the screen might be difficult to see if there's a lot of light.

[@graham-i9c]

do you need the adapter to put a 10-18 on a canon eon m50

[@pauldlewis3138]

Hi Chris ... interesting vlog thanks for this ...... oh and your last graphic shows the one lens as 10-10mm instead of 10-18mm .... lol

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

Whoops - bit of a rush to get this one out Paul - filmed, edited and release in less than 12 hours! The odd mistake was bound to creap in.

[@cl8yt]

Hey, what adapter would i need for the Canon M50 Mark ii for the M42 lens and the ef-s lens ???

[@ricksloane988]

Why is the camera in your bag? When I’m out walking my camera is always in my hand.

[@diib5206]

Hey I am thinking of getting the m50 but I don’t know if it’s good for photography, I also want to branch into cinematography and don’t want to break the bank, please let me know what you think about the photography on the m50.

[@stanvisualseychelles932]

I've been using the native F2 22mm and its insane for video, focus is blazing fast. I wish they would put 4k 30fps in future updates and introduce more primes for ef-m line

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

I hear good things about that lens - turns the M50 into a mean little street photography camera, they love a bit of 35mm.

[@CraigNiesenPhotography]

Chris, excellent video. I tried out the M50 Mk II. While I liked it for filming video, I found the lack of glass a setback for photography. I never thought about adapting lenses from Canon or other sources. Thank you for sharing. Peace and Safe Travels -Craig

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

Thanks Craig - out of interest, what did you go for instead of the M50?

[@CraigNiesenPhotography]

@@ChrisSalePhoto I had to suspend my testing for a bit. I still want to try out a comparable Sony, but so far, I am leaning towards either the Nikon Z fc or the Fuji X-T4. Both of which had less of a crop when shooting 4K video, and I could quickly adjust the exposure by using dials mounted on the bodies. I hope to rent a Sony in the next couple of months. So far, the autofocus on the three bodies that I have tested we're on pace with each. Very little, if any, misses while filming video.

[@KevinNordstrom]

I also own the m50 and m6mk2 and the best lenses for the m mount is the sigma f1.4 trio lenses. For wildlife on a budget you can't beat the sigma 150-600 with the m50 crop. Good video

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

I bet the the image quality is superb on the Sigma f/1.4 range but I'd find being limited to the FF eqv of 26mm, 48mm and 90mm quite restricting. They are also eye wateringly expensive. But I'd be interested to see just how good the images with the M50 could be with that prime glass - I might have to see if MPB would lend me a set? :)

[@timothykieper]

Nice video Chris! I use nearly the same exact setup; M50, Viltrox adapter, and Canon 10-18 mm lens. The only difference would be my budget-conscious purchase of the Tamron 18-200 lens which is also available for the Canon EF-S system and cost less than $100 on MPB

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

Wow Tim, that is a great price! I have had Tamron lenses in the past and think they are a great option for those on a budget. A lot of bang for the buck as they say...

[@Yodah97]

I'm favoring the EF-S 18-135mm for the faster autofocus and sharper image. But the is still 18-200mm is a great pick. For anyone reading this in the future, Christopher Frost did an "superzoom lenses compared" video back in 2015 that compares both among other options.

[@frightenedtreephotography4304]

Nice advert for MPB

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

Wow! Thanks. That is so kind of you to say. I couldn't have made this video without their support so I am so pleased to hear that I could do something for them in return. :)

[@nigelwest3430]

You are adapting a 18-135mm EF-S lens, Why not use the 18-155mm EF-M ? also you are using the 10-18mm EF-S lens, Why not just use the 11-22mm EF-M lens, Great little lens

[@ChrisSalePhoto]

It all comes down to price - ATM the EF-S 10-18 is £100 cheaper than the EF-M 11-22. That is a BIG difference. Also, you can't put the EF-M on a DSLR, so they're not as flexible in my opinion. I am sure the EF-M lenses are great, but as a pro whose gear needs to pay for itself, price is a huge consideration for me.

[@perrypelican9476]

Why does everyone confuse things by always comparing to full frame. If we use an m50, we have to learn how to get the shots we want. Comparing to full frame serves no purpose that I can think of. Did you consider the viltrox speed booster instead of the ordinary adapter? A bit more money for a big benefits.

[@shedtime_au]

"Sometimes I wish I had something just a little bit longer and a little bit wider." That's what she said.