Canon EOS M6 II review: IN-DEPTH vs A6400 vs X-T30

[@731Woodworks]

By far the best review on this camera I've watched. Good job.

[@cameralabs]

Canon EOS M6 II - in-depth review of Canon's best APSC mirrorless! Check prices at B&H: bhpho.to/2ZqAw5N or Amazon: amzn.to/2ovHNAg Buy Gordon a coffee: www.paypal.me/cameralabs Gordon's In Camera book at Amazon: amzn.to/2n61PfI / Amazon uk: amzn.to/2mBqRVZ Like Cameralabs? Get the T-Shirt: redbubble.com/people/cameralabs/shop Filmed with the Sony A6400 and e 24mm: bhpho.to/2CqYrEs 00:58 - Design and controls, screen, EVF, ports, battery 07:17 - Lenses 09:55 - Autofocus with native and adapted lenses 13:01 - RAW burst mode 15:33 - Shutter types - mechanical, electronic, bulb timer 17:05 - Focus bracketing and stacking 18:08 - Movies, quality, slow motion, 4k vs 1080, autofocus 24:46 - Sensor and photo quality, resolution vs 24 Megapixels 28:40 - Final verdict

[@CAPTAINDRONE798]

Picked this up for use on my Channel reviews. So far, it is outstanding.

[@miba8303]

This burst mode 14:20

[@trouvaillebyAamir]

This is so good, it like a lesson about these cameras. I loved the split screen comparison, its puts a lot of doubts to rest. Thank you..

[@cameralabs]

You're very welcome, it's a lot of work, so nice to hear when people find it useful!

[@stvsanders]

Clearly, the best Canon M6 MII review on KZbin. Well done Gordon. I wish they would update the M5 for photographers that want a light body and dont really care much for video. Focus Stacking, and built in Expanded HDR options would be welcomed. Unfortunately I see canon moving towards supporting the RF lens and R body more than the EOS-M system. Thanks for a great review.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks glad you enjoyed it!

[@doogieham]

Yes. I still can’t believe that Canon is calling the M6m2 their flagship M system camera going forward. I can’t see them abandoning the M5 form factor. I’m really hoping that we’ll see a new M5 six months from now with IBIS and a higher res viewfinder. However, the cynic in me thinks Canon won’t choose an M system camera as the first body to showcase their new IBIS technology especially with a R successor in the works but I can only keep hoping . . .

[@cameralabs]

@@doogieham it's hard to predict where Canon will go with this, but they are very invested in full-frame mirrorless and the RP isn't that much more than a high-end APSC model would be.

[@nguyentony_]

Just returned to this video after I bought the M6 Mark II. The video helped me a lot when deciding. Thanks!

[@CErick5563]

This is a great review. I just wish Canon would release a M5 mark ii. It seems a shame that currently we have to decide between the better screen design and integrated viewfinder of the M50, and the better shooting controls, sensors, and video options of the M6 mark ii. Why not put it all in one package and release it at the same time at a higher price? Canon should give us the option to have the best of both worlds!

[@makbennett]

I bought the M6mkii and alternate between it and my 7Dmkii with the canon 100-400mkii. I love the controls, and speed of the M6, but the lag of the EVF versus the optical causes me to miss shots. The M6 mkii is an awesome camera in a small package otherwise.

[@marshmellowash]

06:00 Canon EOS M6 does support 10-bit 4:2:2 (Uncompressed YCbCr) via HDMI output.

[@stefffoto]

I was initially going for the 90D, but the silent shutter, and the ability through a speedbooster to have two photographic opportunities with the same lens, made me determined for the M6 mark2. I previous had the M6 mark1, but sold it because of very noisy shutter and slow handling. This new model shows a new direction

[@mchlhth]

Another fine review, Gordon, thanks! My feeling is that Canon's intended market all along for the EOS M has been casual photographers and vloggers who rarely exchange the kit lens for anything else; the Rebel series of mirrorless, if you will. When there have been more bodies (10, by my count) than lenses (8) since the original EOS M -- and most of those lenses are variable aperture zooms (5) rather than primes (3) -- along with the fact that they seem to be all-in for making the EOS R series a competent system for high-end amateurs and professionals, one can't help but think Canon is once again thoroughly ensuring it's products do not overlap on features with one another.

[@doogieham]

Yes. I still can’t believe that Canon is calling the M6m2 their flagship M system camera going forward. I can’t see them abandoning the M5 form factor. I’m really hoping that we’ll see a new M5 six months from now with IBIS and a higher res viewfinder. However, the cynic in me thinks Canon won’t choose an M system camera as the first body to showcase their new IBIS technology especially with a R successor in the works but I can only keep hoping . . .

[@markolwick2223]

Thank you, thank you, thank you for actually talking about image quality!

[@Real.Estate.Motivate]

Recently bought the M6ii...very happy with my the Sigma 16mm 1.4 lens on this body. But I must say, your skills on breaking down cameras on KZbin is absolutely Masterclass...Bravo!

[@cameralabs]

Thanks! Check out my review of the three Sigma lenses for EF-M!

[@snowwalker9999]

I wonder if any other review could top your review of this camera. Like always the most comprehensive reviews ever. I might buy you a coffee on here and if I get to meet you. Keep up the great work Gordon!

[@cameralabs]

Thankyou! I try my hardest to cover everything I can think of and just hope it's useful and interesting for other people too!

[@hyttennis]

I love the amount of detail you went into here. Great review! The lack of evf is a pain, but that plus dropping the NFC connectivity are a deal breaker for me!

[@cameralabs]

Thanks!

[@DerrenHodson]

The external power charger must be PD certified to work. I bought the Morphie PD powerstation to charge my G5XII.

[@cameralabs]

Does it definitely work?

[@DerrenHodson]

@@cameralabs Yes great for charging on the go.

[@cameralabs]

@@DerrenHodson thanks, good tip.

[@okaro6595]

Compact cameras are different as they use a 3.7 V battery. EOS M series uses 7.4 V.

[@ScottJWaldron]

Impressive work. You put a huge amount of information in there!

[@cameralabs]

Thanks, these things take ages to put together!

[@MarkoNara]

The M6 mk2 marks the point of no return from dSLR... When an entry level Mirrorless camera has more features and goes over the curve of the Enthusiast dSLR like the 90D, especially coming from Canon, that can only mean one thing.. This doesnt mean that dSLR are dead, but they are retiring from the consumer market, and soon the profesional one...

[@cameralabs]

I agree completely. I was quite surprised when the M6 II out-performed the 90D for the birds in flight.

[@martinhommel9967]

But there are also features on the 90D that are missing in the M6 ii for example cropped 4k. The 90d also doesn't overheat and is weather sealed. DSLRs are a long way from retirement.

[@MarkoNara]

@@martinhommel9967 Dont get me wrong. I shoot dSLR right now. I have a 5DVI and 5DsR, also for casual shooting i also own an EOS M6 and M5. Im not against dSLR. But, the undenying thing its that mirror technology has already reach its peak development, and mirrorless tech has just started. The main features of the Mirrorless tech its based on silicon and software, it will keep improving overtime more easily and frequently, with more ease of use and options. Mirrortech will not. For example, the best shooting features of the 90D are based on mirrorless tech and way of shooting. I had the oportunity to try out the EOS R, EOS Rp and Sony A73, and I was impress by those cameras, far better shooting experience than my 5D4, it felt like my high end dSLR was already obsolete. And that was last year (2018)...! Mirror cameras will become what Medium format cameras are right now... a minority and a quite specialiced one.

[@martinhommel9967]

@@MarkoNara maybe they will, maybe they won't. It seems to me that there is quite a way to go before that could happen. In my opinion it's premature to pronounce DSLRs dead as their ergonomics seem so much more developed. I go window shopping quite often and apart from the Canon R and Lumix bodies there's nothing that could entice me to ditch my DSLRs for mirrorless just yet.

[@tikiecue5677]

I agree with the statements here and have same thoughts. I think DSLR tech has plateau'd while Mirrorless has become really stable, and is now easily encroaching capabilities that we used to think is untouchable territory for Mirrorless systems 3-4 years ago. The release of M6 Mk II and 90D is a great window to Canon's thinking by putting up pretty much same cameras but in 2 form factors, let the people decide. If we see more lens support for the M6 Mk II in the future, then it could be because it is outselling its DSLR fraternal twin. Canon making EF/EFS adaptable supports this logic too in my eye. Similar with cellphone tech, we started big, then the battle for how small we can get, and now who can go biggest with lesser compromise again. So I'd advice not to let go your DSLRs yet, society might ba back to it again... Hahah

[@imjooboy]

I certainly appreciate your straightforward reviews without clickbait headlines like some other reviewers. Well done!

[@HappyHubris]

Gordon it would be great to see a follow up video on which EF-S lenses can "keep up" with the 32mm f1.4. There's a ton of cheap glass out there; but which can resolve 32.5MP?

[@Jojaje-124]

About the charger: It has to support the PD Spec. So when buying a charger just look for PD and you're good to go! (PD is a technique where charger and device basically communicate what charging rates the device can handle. This prevents the 100w (or whatever wattage your macbook charger has) charger to blow up your cam's battery)

[@davecarrera]

A lot is made of the EVF but I am finding not having one not a problem. Bright daylight yesterday and no issue just using the screen.

[@TECHSOME]

Should I get This or the 6400 for Video?

[@LuisPerez-fy6up]

TECHSOME rolling shutter on all a6xxx cameras is horrific I would stay away unless using on a tripod 24-7

[@danzaback3793]

I would really like to see your comparison of the M6 II vs the RP.

[@abchappell01]

Once again, another outstanding camera review by you Gordon. You are the “Gold Standard” by which all the other reviewers should try to embrace and attain… 😊

[@cameralabs]

Thanks! I wish I had the views of the bigger channels, it's hard to justify doing this amount of detail when the views are low.

[@michaeldidomenico7]

My M50 does everything this does, and is 24.2, but since I am not into 4K. I'll stick with what I have

[@NigelAquascaping]

Hey amazing video!! I currently have the 200d and wonder if I would regret the megapixels of the eos 6m mark ii with my current lenses: 1. Canon 10 18mm EFS 2. Sigma 30mm art 1.4 efs mount 3. Canon macro 60mm EFS Do you think any of this lenses would not be able to cope with the higher megapixels? Regarding the Canon 6m mark ii would I be able to use it with off camera external flashes like yongnuo yn 560 iii with the yongnuo yn 560 tx controller on the hot shoe? Just manual flash no TTL option. Also how is the 1080p 120 fps video quality? I would be so hyped for a Canon eos m aps c line but with 120 fps af and IBIS. Will it ever happen you think in the aps c line? Thanks in advance

[@cameralabs]

I think your lenses would be fine on the M6 II. I'm not sure how many new EOS M products we can expect from Canon as they seem very focused on EOS R right now, but who knows?

[@johnhaynes9910]

Good review as ever Gordon. I have the original M6 and welcome the improvements in the MkII however I will probably hold out until they produce an upgraded M50 because I find I use the clip on viewfinder rather a lot. On the question of more lenses of which I have 4 from the current catalogue, yes Canon should because whilst I have the adapter so that I can mount any of my EF lenses, the weight and size of those lenses rather defeats the whole point of a small ICL body for travel and casual use. But that said and with Canon likely focused (no pun intended) on expanding their R range of lenses, I think it will be a long time before we see anything from them on M lenses. The thing that has always fascinated me is the popularity of the M range particularly in Japan so it makes some sense for third parties like Sigma to take up the slack and produce native M series lenses at likely, premium prices because they might be shooting at an open goal here in terms of sales with no competition from Canon.

[@MilesAndHeights]

@John Haynes I’m waiting for M5 mk ii...seems like it missed its turn

[@TTT888TQL1981]

I think canon m5 mark ii is already released with a new model name called Eos RP...so Canon is using M6 Mark ii as the flagship model in M series... It's also good to use Canon EF-M lenses for both esthetics and portability. If you really pursue very high quality images with mirrorless cameras, Canon R family will be your choice.

[@wanderingpoet9999]

I believe that the maligned 15-45mm kit is actually very close to the 32 mm prime if you use it around its sweet spot of 30mm f8

[@GLBProductions]

Hi there Gordon, thank you for such a comprehensive review! In your dealings with Canon did they ever clearly state whether this camera replaces both the M6 AND M5 line of cameras? In other words, do you think we will ever see an M5 mark II? Thank you.

[@cameralabs]

Hmm, good question, but sadly they rarely if ever answer questions like that. I suspect with the RP not too far above that the M6 II will be the top APSC model. I hope we'll see an M50 update though.

[@GLBProductions]

@@cameralabs Thanks Gordon for the quick reply, much appreciated.

[@amounifnd]

Either would be very good. Using Sony for some time and Canon has better Ergonomics. But watch reviews and only you can choose. Its your money. I love Sony and lens selection is great, and does everything you can ask. But for some people its art/colors vs glass like sharpness. It's what your eyes enjoy. Amongst friends and family with new apple and samsung phones, they are blown away by quality of images from 16mp NexF3. So its what you personally enjoy.

[@1677dj]

@@cameralabs so M5 mark II is not coming ?

[@cameralabs]

@@1677dj different people will tell you different things. I'm guessing not, but they may end up doing it.

[@firpofutbol]

I would really like a low light video demonstration, especially comparing it to a Canon M50.

[@j_quads]

I personally been looking for a comparison between those two sensors a lot, better with also x-trans compared. I'm looking for better low light

[@snappic2867]

I‘m waiting for a m version of a 15-85mm. I use the EFS but it would be nice if it was smaller. Or a 15-70 in 2.8

[@iamzoone]

7:24 focus rapidly hunts when you see "EOS" letter. I suspect this shot is by Fuji. I used X-T20 and I suffer focus hunt even at a very static B roll shot.

[@cameralabs]

I filmed with a Sony A6400 -didn't I put that at the start of the video?

[@mondujar279]

Top quality review as expected from one of the best reviewers. Thanks very much Gordon, have bought the 90d, like it but early days yet.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks Andrew, my 90D review should follow in about a week...

[@BAdventures]

Good honest review. Thank you for showing a few different lenses. Seems like a good compact camera. But seems like Canon neglected the mirrorless range and lenses.

[@SakvaUA]

Thanks for the review. When you compared Canon vs Sony at 20:37 I noticed that Sony has much more pronounced sharpening artifacts (brighter lines around black objects), so an apparent increase in sharpness may be due to software sharpening.

[@cameralabs]

That's right.

[@SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat]

My Samsung NX1 2014 camera had 120p FullHD video mode with sound and autofocus. And canon's almost 2020 doesnt :)

[@IanTed]

Hot shoe isn’t an issue, just buy an offset flash mount that attaches to the tripod mount, cheap as chips.

[@michaelsanchez4487]

Excellent unbiased, professional review. Great information

[@cameralabs]

Thanks!

[@wickedhouston5538]

@@cameralabs M6 is the king

[@bingvaldez347]

What's better of the three for race car at the race track photography?

[@alexis1959]

The best review (and comparison with M50) I have seen so far - brilliant!

[@arthurmermelshtein1767]

High quality review, very well done.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks!

[@modifiedabsolute2939]

Thanks Gordon - can the M6 MK2 display sounds levels on the screen while recording video?

[@cameralabs]

Just re-confirmed for you! If you cycle through the Info views, it only appears on the one which fills the screen with shooting info and not a live image. None of the live image views have audio levels sadly. You can also see them in the menu where you adjust them.

[@modifiedabsolute2939]

@@cameralabs Same as on my M50. It would be a nice little improvement if they did make them available on live view.

[@cameralabs]

@@modifiedabsolute2939 definitely. I'll feed it back to Canon.

[@amermeleitor]

Do you think Canon will take the Sony and Nikon approach about produce APSC cameras with the RF mount? Maybe canon let the M mount die from now.

[@cameralabs]

It's really hard to say. There's rumours of APSC RF bodies, but no evidence yet. I'd like to see them, or for the M mount to continue. I feel maybe it's like Sony who have APSC but mostly concentrate on full-frame. So ultimately I'd like it, but I won't expect it.

[@Snake20]

I am new to this world of photography. I am deciding between this Canon EOS MK6 II or the Sony A6400 or 6100. I mostly want to use it for taking pictures of animals and taking pics when I am out on the city and a little bit of people. I am not too worried about filming. I am leaning a bit more towards the Canon, but a lot of people are recommending the Sony. Or is there even another camera I should be looking at?

[@BenFox01]

Wonderful review - is there a stabilisation test anywhere? 👀

[@dirragon1]

Another fantastic review, thanks Gordon! One suggestion: I realize it's probably more of a pain for you, but it would be nice to have a time stamp list where we can jump to different parts of the review, as I'm sure some of us are more interested in certain things than others, and it's a bit fiddly to find the portion one might be interested in. Either way, still a great review! Cheers

[@cameralabs]

Thanks Zach, and I've already done it for you - it's in the pinned comment! Should I also put it anywhere else?

[@dirragon1]

@@cameralabs Hmm... I'm not seeing a pinned comment. Probably an issue on my end and not yours. Not sure. And I've seen it done in the description up top underneath the channel name, but also in a pinned comment. I suppose it doesn't matter where it is. Much appreciated either way, and thanks!

[@cameralabs]

@@dirragon1 Hmmm, it's definitely in the pinned comment, but I've also just added it to the description,.

[@dirragon1]

@@cameralabs No idea why I wouldn't be seeing the pinned comment. Really strange. Oh well. Appreciate the add to the description though, my apologies for being a pain. I'll try to figure out the pinned comment issue. =\

[@cameralabs]

@@dirragon1 no problem, hope you find it somewhere!

[@_noahrh]

Thank you for the direct comparison of the images on the m50 vs the m6 mark ii, you're right - the difference wasn't nearly as drastic as I thought it would've been!

[@ThePhotographyHobbyist]

9:38 Wow...now that you mention it. Yeah...more lenses please.

[@johnherzel718]

So basically wait for the M50 upgrade, and forget the 90D. Or live with the funky add on eye piece on the M6-2. Oh Canon....what’s the reasoning, and where is the native lens selection going??? WTF... Have you tried this with the 22mm lens? I have the EF-S 24/f2.8 pancake, would this work as well as the native 22? Love the review but now I have more questions than answers. My 70D will continue for yet another day🤔

[@cameralabs]

The 90D is still a great upgrade for a 70D, but don't expect the viewfinder AF to be much better. As for the 22 prime, I've not tried it with the M6 II yet.

[@okaro6595]

You will need the adapter with the 24 mm. The size of the camera will be entirely different: camerasize.com/compact/#829.349,829.439.2,ha,t

[@GrumpyMansREVIEWS]

Great review as usual waiting for the 90D review

[@cameralabs]

Thanks! The 90D review should be in about a week.

[@martinhommel9967]

I briefly contemplated buying this camera. The OEV attachment ensured I didn't. It's small and easy to lose. Maybe I will fork out the money for the 90d as there seem to be some good improvements over the 70d and the 77d I am currently using, but it's touch and go. If only the viewfinder on the 77d were a bit bigger with 100% coverage instead of the 95% it offers. 4k video is not a deal breaker for me.

[@playdoob]

Hey, Gordon. I’ve watched both this and your a6400 review. I’m trying to decide if I should return my M6 II and get the a6400 instead due to the 4K overheating issues. Is rolling shutter on the a6400 a noticeable hinderance when vlogging? How would u compare the picture quality of 1080p 120fps between the two cameras? These are my two biggest concerns.

[@cameralabs]

The A6400 definitely has sensitive rolling shutter, but I think the M6 II did too. I find the image quality on the Sony to be excellent - I user it to film all my reviews - but I rarely shoot slomo outside of my tests.

[@playdoob]

@@cameralabs thanks for the quick reply and comprehensive reviews! Do u own both of these cameras? If so, is there any way u could do a slow motion test using both of them at the same time?

[@cameralabs]

@@playdoob I only own the Sony

[@azatecas]

man i have been binging your videos and they are very well made with plenty of information regarding every question i had! you rock sir

[@cameralabs]

Thanks! Glad you found me!

[@DavidWilliams-wj4sc]

DC-1 DVF also works and tilts up, but with less pixels and slower refresh. still seems great.

[@pieterdewit5335]

I think I’m in love with this camera, due to your review ! I have a M3 and then M6, when I realized I wanted to take pictures of flying birds (I use a adapted Nano USM 70-300). I also was missing a silent shutter in both cameras... but did you mention there is no burst possibility with it ? And can you tell me if it’s possible to change the exposure compensation with the function dial, by changing button layout ?

[@cameralabs]

Thanks Pieter, you'll have to check with Canon though as my loan sample was returned several weeks ago and I've tested several other very different cameras since then.

[@HappyHubris]

Gordon does the M6ii with weaker lenses like the kit look like a 24mp camera or somehow worse?

[@asgedas4264]

What about the settings I want to be the date and time after the picture is done?

[@nsbhagwat]

Gordon, question related to lens data. DPP4 has option to load canon lens data which can then be used to correct aspects like distortion. Is there a way to load 3rd party lens data in DPP? Please let me know.

[@ericbulington2421]

80D and m100 owner here - interesting thought for a mix of photos and videos for someone that travels a lot, and likes to pack very light: Do I supplement these two cameras with the new G7x Mark iii (for ultralight weight travel better than iPhone XR), or get the RP to displace the 80 for photos and youtube channel for the kids and keep the 80D as a backup? I have 3 L lenses: 17-40 F4, 24-70 F4L IS, and 70-200 F2.8L II IS. Would love your thought here Gordon (considering the RP after this review and current $1000 US for the RP right now)...

[@ericdanthon2]

Great review! My question is when would you enable or disable the continous auto focus function? It seems to work super except when I don't want it to. What is its purpose?

[@jordaniriney]

hello according to your experience which will have better image quality in the video? Canon M6 Markt II OR SONY RX100 M7? THANK YOU

[@MEEKSREVIEWS]

Hi Gordon, I'm watching your videos and this video is one of the main factors helped me decide to buy this camera I had it for 3 weeks now and really great! Love the stabilization and colors! I also made an unboxing of this camera the timw I bought this and oh by the way 24p is now available!

[@achowchow]

Wish this one have great improvement. You know there is a dark corner in right side of photo when you use internal flash to take selfie with Canon M6 using either ef-m 18-150mm or 11-22mm lens.

[@AMAETV]

Thanks for sharing the bit about not being to get the Rode Wireless Go on top! Very useful, and unfortunately a dealbreaker. I'll stick with my M50 😄

[@BasicASMR-UK]

Im sure a cage would solve that.

[@kchambers8102]

I bought both the M6 Mk II and the Fuji X100V and shot them for several weeks trying to decide on which one. I also bought the Canon EF-M 22mm F/2 pancake lens to use head-to-head vs. the X100V's 23mm F/2. Even though the M6 has 32Mpx and the X100V 26Mpx (I also shot the same comparison photos with Canon's kit 15-45mm lens)... the Fuji was sharper! I guess I should have purchased the Canon 32mm F/1.4 (as you suggest in your review of the M6 II) for possibly a better comparison against the mighty Fuji X-Trans 4 sensor? I returned all of it... because the Fuji's battery started malfunctioning after just a few re-charges...and the Canon didn't measure up against the Fuji. But maybe, I sold the Canon short without shooting it mounted with the 32mm /1.4? Should I re-buy the M6 II again to give it a second chance --Are any of the other Canon EF-M lenses 'equal to' the 32mm for sharpness? Particularly any of a longer focal length to go with the 32mm?

[@Astrolavista]

There must be an M50 mkII launch soon? Maybe with DPAF in 4K with a less harsh crop? And yes, I would like to see more native EOS M lenses. I had the original EOS M with the 22mm f/2 and that was a cracking lens, more please Canon, I think you have more M bodies than lenses! p.s. thanks for the great in depth review.

[@amessuti]

Fantastic review Gordon. Spot on. I haven't been able to put the camera down since I got it. 32mm is an absolute must. Owning a 5d3. I wanted something smaller so size was the primary reason for the m6 II and its exactly what I needed.

[@cameralabs]

Great stuff, glad you enjoyed it - and also have the 32!

[@RandomLifeProductions]

Why do people keep going on the mic blocking the viewfinder. A ten dollar bracket sorts the problem.... I don’t think it should have any bearings on people’s reviews

[@bobsctx8166]

I was waiting for M5MKIi, but seems M6 has replaced. Is 22mm f2 M prime as sharp as 32mm F1.4?

[@cameralabs]

I haven't tried the 22mm on the EOS M6 II but hope to soon.

[@bobsctx8166]

We have M50 and 22mm sure looks better than 15-45 on it. IBIS would be essential for me. I am tempted to go M4/3s and get G9 or 95. Have 50 years of Canon glass though.

[@ralphaaa80]

Great review.No mention of the 22mm though.Great lens,especially for the size.

[@cameralabs]

The 22mm is a nice lens

[@kiwipics]

@Gordon Laing ... I not interested in the video abilities of any camera, as I'm only interested the stills abilities. I have a large reange of EF and EFs lenses, and only M lenses. I'm cosidering the M50, but the M6 II (s/hand) is a possibility.... What would you choose for general / sports / lanscape ? I would prefer a viewfinder (I currently use an M10) as on my 5d mk1.

[@andufalha]

I still thinking either M50 mkii or the M6 mkii. still using my over 10 years old Powershot G12. so am thinking of upgrading. purpose just for taking still photos & videos of my kids growing up and for travelling. anyhow this is a good review. thumbs up!!!

[@GinoFoto]

Finally some innovative features from Canon out there, overall a very nice camera, what not so nice is price tag at the moment, hopefully cost goes down in the near future.

[@johnsmalldridge6356]

Thanks Gordon for showing the focus bracketing feature in action.

[@cameralabs]

You're welcome!

[@saltisgood7961]

The m50 looks awesome new m50 version coming out soon??

[@chrishuang8763]

Bought the M6 Mk2 about 2 weeks ago and absolutely love it. Beats my Lumix GX9 in many areas. The body is cheaper too. Anyway, I am keeping both system.

[@sdhute]

are you still enjoying the m6 mii ? I'm coming from m43 world too looking into this camera

[@chrishuang8763]

@@sdhute Yes but I could not use it much as a result of travel restrictions going places. It is still the best value mirrorless camera for taking with you when walking around. The GX9 is good but its sensor is smaller with less resolution. I have both.

[@OURWORLDTV]

I'm wondering if this is a worthy upgrade for my canon m50 it seems that the m6 mark 2 does not have a crop factor like the m50 would you recommend upgrading to this from the m50? or should I keep the m50 for a lil longer?

[@cameralabs]

You haven't said why you want to upgrade. If it's to avoid the 4k crop, then yes, the M6 II can film without a crop AND with dual pixel AF, but you'll already know that from watching the review.

[@Mn-xh9ps]

Hi Gordon, It seems (maybe) that the video electronic stabilisation works a bit better ? The walking vlog test with EIS enhanced looks a lot better that it uses too, no?

[@cameralabs]

I didn't think the digital IS worked very well when walking, but check out my separate video comparing all the modes.

[@williamhumber5890]

Did you test the C-AF performance in RAW burst mode?

[@bockiesix]

Love my M5 with the ef efs adapter.

[@mrinsaf]

Im basically living on the past generation, i just bought a used m5 last months and im really happy with it. Plus ive a workaround profile picture tht can maintain hdr so i dont think ill be using lr much for traveling pictures lol😂😂

[@momchilyordanov8190]

I wouldn't bother with the evf, nor the kit lens. The body only, plus the £179 ef-m 22mm. But as you say in the review - lens selection is lacking here, not camera quality. Gimme a modern, native 15-65mm f/2.8-4 and I'm buying this little guy tomorrow. Presumably it doesn't go for £1,200, like the latest 16-55 abomination by Sony .

[@azatecas]

apart from the lack of 24p, the biggest downside is the lack of dynamic range in video. i mean when you compared it to the sony a6400, the bottom of the peer was more visible in the sony and the canon had all of it dark. dynamic range in video appears the same as the m50 regarless of resolution. i dont see the need to upgrade from the m50 if you shoot 1080p.

[@markr041]

Just pick a flatter Picture Profile. The Standard Canon one just has too much contrast. It has nothing to do with native DR. The Neutral profile is better for video. There are flat profiles, even log, that can be downloaded into the camera.

[@DavidWilliams-wj4sc]

For my M6II, I own the 22mm F2.0 and the 15-45mm and that's likely all i'll ever buy. Maybe if i was an old man and really wanted to pair down my system, but for now, I want my EF glass. Particularly; 35mm F14. II L.

[@850Tech]

Hi. When comparing the M6 MkII with the Canon 90D what do you recommend? My concern is low budget , higher bitrate video than my 70D and some 1080P slow motion. I don’t care about whether shield capabilities. Thank you in advance

[@cameralabs]

the choice is whether you prefer DSLR or mirrorless

[@850Tech]

Gordon Laing I really don’t care much about the type of camera I want. I just want the best quality video performance for the lowest price. Thanks in advance

[@cameralabs]

@@850Tech the 90D ironically is a bit more flexible with the fully articulated screen and crop option, but I personally prefer the size and weight of the M6 II.

[@Macipaddad]

I've watched so many video reviews on this camera and I don't understand why everyone slams the camera because you can't use the optional viewfinder with the LCD screen flipped up. Makes no sense! Your not going to use the viewfinder if the screen is flipped up!!!!! Am I missing something?

[@cameralabs]

I think it's a convenience thing - personally speaking I have the screen up about half the time and use the viewfinder the other half, so I'd be constantly removing and refitting it, which is inconvenient and will also eventually fail or get lost / broken. This would apply to most KZbinrs who make most reviews these days BUT I do realise this doesn't reflect how everyone, or even the majority work. So if it wouldn't prove inconvenient, go for it!

[@georgegonzales4292]

Gordon, would one need a speed booster for the canon M6 mark II?

[@cameralabs]

Not unless you wanted one!

[@georgegonzales4292]

Gordon Laing thanks

[@andrear9500]

It clearly shows you spent a lot of time to give us the best M6 review out there! About the camera, I have mixed feelings. I appreciate Canon fitting it with interesting features but in this day and age for many people the lack of built-in evf is a further temptation to just use a smartphone. And I find the external evf to be too much of a hassle to carry, fit, remove when screen is up, fit again for high speed shooting, remove again when fitting a mic, fit it again in bright condition,... Good move from Canon overall

[@cameralabs]

Thanks Andrea, yes it took a lot of time to put together! And yes, i too find the slide-on EVF inconvenient.

[@laurentl714]

I agree !

[@stadtbewohner]

Could you (or anyone here) help me out with this question regarding the Canon M6 II? Google searched the hell out of it, no luck. Is there a way to shoot an auto exposure bracketing row (AEB) with a (manual Yongnuo) flash trigger on the hot shoe? Frustratingly the 6D and 6D II can do that (as long as there is no TTL flash connected, and even if - you could tape off the 4 other pins), but the M6 I does not allow that (looking at the M6 II hot shoe it seems to be similar). The reason is that there is a little pin under the metal flap inside the hot shoe that turns off the AEB any time anything is depressing that flap. It is not possible to have anything on the hot shoe (even a piece of plastic) and do AEB. Surprisingly I have not found anything online regarding this. Does anyone know if there is a workaround? Would like to buy the M6 II but this issue is a deal breaker for me. Thought about snipping off the metal flap in the hot shoe, but I'm not sure if the M6 would still trigger the flash without the pin being pressed down.

[@cameralabs]

I didn't know about the pin turning off AEB. Sorry I'm not a flash expert.

[@TheMagdiragdag]

I'm looking for a good lightweight travel/hiking camera for landscape and wildlife and have already a number of full-frame Canon lenses. Problem is, there are little good lenses for EF-M, so yes I can mount the M6 II on a Sigma 150-600 for birding when traveling, but that misses the point of a travel camera; The Sigma already weighs 2kg. Now looking for a Panasonic G9 with the Leica 100-400... A lot more money, but than I have a good travel camera and with the Leica 12-60 a good set (the complete set will weigh only about 2 kg). Canon cripples the M line by supplying only consumer lenses and (almost) no prosumer lenses and stops at focal length of 200mm. So you need the adapter to get more than 200mm and than get stuck with much bigger lenses and weight. And no in-body stabilization for stills...

[@The.Urban.Birder]

It would be great if Canon could make a compact and light 100-400mm for the EF-M mount. Go for f 6.7 at the 400mm end and all plastic build to keep the weight (and price) down (like the Olympus 75-300mm another sharp compact and cheap zoom). Also not cripple it with STM instead use nanoUSM.

[@TheMagdiragdag]

@@The.Urban.Birder Canon is not going to do that because it would eat in to the lower DSLR range. The same strategy why they ditched 24p on the M6 II. When a camera can do 25p or 30p than of course the software can do 24p... Nope: buy a more expensive camera for that option. And there is a pattern: The EF-S range is also limited. Canon wants you to move as prosumer to the EF full frame line.

[@TheMagdiragdag]

@Reuel T After a lot of fuss in the media; remember my comment was 2 month ago and a lot of people were surprised that canon started to listen and do something about it. Good for Canon, I have moved to a great MFT camera.

[@ericdanthon2]

The M6 is a consumer camera so I believe that's why it will provide only consumer lenses. No way they will make a small lightweight compact 2.8 lens.

[@peterbeyerholm]

Thorough and objective review as we are used to from you Gordon - Good job. It seems like a very good effort by Canon, though I'm still not convinced how much future there is for Canons M system. One minor note, Gordon: Even though the shallow depth of field you use for the product shots gives super sweet and smooth bokeh, I must admit that I think the DoF might be a little too shallow - I find it slightly distracting that parts of the camera is out of focus. What are your thoughts behind using such shallow DoF?

[@cameralabs]

Thanks Peter, I personally enjoy the shallow DOF effect when it works, but I agree it can sometimes get in the way of presenting the information here, so I may make some adjustments!

[@peterbeyerholm]

@@cameralabs Thank you for replying Gordon. That's another thing about your channel that is great - we as followers can actually get to interact with you. Its nice to know that you will give this a thought or two. I want to point out that this was just a minor thing - on the whole I think you are doing a tremendous job and I really enjoy your videos. You are one of only very few channels that I have on "notification bell" - so keep up the good work...

[@cameralabs]

@@peterbeyerholm thanks for your support and following!

[@sclogse1]

Well, I'm a year late. But my question seems to span eons. No one talks about exposure control in video mode. Without it, no sale. I have no idea if there is any after this video, or if there is, what the range of override is, or whether it can be completely locked down.

[@cameralabs]

You can put it in manual exposure for video. I'd suggest downloading the manual for the camera to see all the options.

[@reigateschoolofballetcomme8629]

So helpful - I film a lot of dancers who sometimes move slow, sometimes fast. Need a video camera with fast autofocus, preferably 4K, and much is handheld (sometimes with gimbal). Want to upgrade from my Canon 70D which has been great and have canon lenses also - With a budget of around £1000, looking at sony a6400 or sticking to the upgrade to the canon - the 90D. For run and gun shooting, is there a better camera? Gearing towards sony but will dance moves be skewered due to rolling shutter on this? Any advice would be welcome. Many thanks

[@cameralabs]

For good autofocus, it's really between Sony and Canon, and you're right to be wary of Sony if there's fast movement, as there could be some skewing. The Canon is less susceptible to rolling shutter, but its 4k is not as sharp as the Sony. There's no perfect camera!

[@bijosn]

Your reviews are always great

[@cameralabs]

Thanks!

[@professionalpotato4764]

In hindsight, it seems like the EF-M was merely a side baby project to test the mirrorless market and to do R&D. The RF was their real serious attempt and I would very much prefer that they kill off the EF-M lineup and make RF-S cameras/lenses instead. Not hating on the EF-M, in fact I do want to upgrade to this from my 200D, since it's the cheapest alternative for the most upgrades with my EF-S lenses. And I won't have to invest extra money I don't have right now into E-mount lenses. (I will go full frame E-mount eventually for the A7S3) And the fact that this camera doesn't have the slightest bit of weather sealing is disappointing. Nearly all other crop bodies at this price point has some form of weather sealing.

[@64wulf45]

Hi Gordon, I have a eos m 100, any big difference in picture quality would you say?

[@benny9588]

24p just available a few days ago.

[@debrafontenot8387]

Sorry forgot to mention I am a amateur dslr user whose dslr recently ruined its sensor, I also have come close to Canon m50 because of the 100% articulating screen and liked the report on Sony 6400

[@paularmstrong7717]

I’m new to photography but am willing to learn. What camera would you recommend? I was looking at the M50 mk 2, M6 mk 2 or the EOS 850d. Mainly for landscape, wildlife, street photography.

[@cameralabs]

Any of them will do, so base it on which looks and feels best to you and which you can get a good deal on. If you have any friends with a camera, and want to share lenses, buy into the same system.

[@paularmstrong7717]

@@cameralabs thanks a lot for getting back to me so quickly. That’s great advice thank you. I’ve got the M50 on order but wasn’t 100% sure I’d made the right choice. Your book is the next thing I need to order!!

[@cameralabs]

@@paularmstrong7717 thanks!