DPReview TV: Mid-Range APS-C Mirrorless Shootout (Canon M6 Mk II, Sony a6400, Nikon Z50, Fuji X-T30)

[@dpreview]

Note: at 3:03 it should say - "#4 Nikon Z50" Apologies for the typo.

[@RobertLeBlancPhoto]

Thanks. I thought my condition was acting up again. My mom is a member of DAM: Mothers Against Dyslexia.

[@Rohanhola]

how much can the rolling shutter be an issue with a6400?

[@victorj1415]

At 10:16,when it comes to the #2 (sony) lens section , it shows behind #4canon, #3nikon, but it was listed #4nikon, #3canon before. Also I don't really get what you mean with "their roadmap consist of just the 18 to 150 lens" in the nikon lens description, do you mean fixed focal lenses?

[@spikeweb5193]

Bad you say z50

[@samgerers]

About the Z50: "You get decent autofocus in video." You were using AF-C, the good video autofocus is AF-F!

[@libafried5840]

I don't know about the other cameras, but if the z50 has the same IQ as the d500 then it is leaps and bounds above the a6400 in IQ. It better in low light/high ISO and better in video IQ.

[@skyrunr]

This review perfectly summaries ALL of my major frustrations shopping for reasonably priced mid-range mirrorless cameras. As I'm testing a Z50 along with my trusty D500, I've concluded that I wish "professional gear" had the scene modes in consumer cameras and smartphones. Still, I believe a better approach is to photography is hardware that utilizes a smartphone for ALL processing, viewing, and storage. Sony was on the right track with the QX series. So far the Z50 is MUCH better with faster (affordable/value) DX lenses than the Z lenses and the last firmware update.

[@thinkinginpictures4071]

Every time you slammed a camera down I cried.

[@drazenzuvela1647]

Me too!

[@moxym5297]

LOL me too.

[@robt4194]

Yea - I design micro electronics - slamming is not good for reliability - alot of g forces. Treat them like real babies.

[@willsjobeck2401]

Way late but it was bothering me too. After a few watches, my guess is they picked them all up and reversed the footage in post.

[@doomsdaydiesel]

@@willsjobeck2401 The 1st place camera in the 2nd round wobbled after he set it down. It wouldn't be sitting there wobbling on its own before he picked it up.

[@hiresmusic]

D500/Z50 sensor is super good on High ISOs,not every fulframe sensor has comparable HighIso perfomance! Its latests,copper based design,so this sensor is still fresh.

[@indreshpatel]

Wrong caption of a6400 for nikon z50 in Image qaulity no.4

[@scdobserver835]

3:03

[@rogeryoung3587]

* quality

[@ZikovanDijk]

Yes, I just noticed, too. Can happen. :-)

[@stevesvids]

Heads will roll for this... lol.... simple error.... it's only youtube guys. 😊👍 consistently great vids from these two... always a good watch. 👍

[@thegreatestlight1]

Yes those Sony cameras are looking more like Nikons every day

[@kevinbreese5739]

Strange... Every other review I've seen praises the Z50's two kit lenses.

[@karunverma1]

I believe the z50 sensor is newer than the a6400 sensor. Also its much better in low light. Its a smartphone consumer mindset to think that 24mp is better than 20mp

[@EmirElweColak]

all i say in this video, nikon z50 is underrated, better than most i think..

[@PieterBreda]

The introductions are getting even more hilarious.

[@skakdosmer]

Substitute “worse”, and I’ll concur.

[@ShantanuMonga]

Bought z50, Happy with that. Uploaded a short cinematic 40 sec video.

[@ShajiCee]

The pop up flash is usable in Nikon . In Sony it’s too low that it hardly passes the lens .z50 video is really good

[@Ponyxlnl]

Lovely video yet again. I baught a X-T30 and i'm really happy with its performence. The glas is simply fantastic and not extremely expensive. The only downside (and its a major one) is that Fuji X-trans camera's have issues with their raw files in Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop. Sometimes rendering the images useless for propper editing.

[@JonInLondon]

Do you have a recent Lightroom or an older one, as they have made quite a few changes? (Also Silkypix and Capture One are good, plus whatever Iridient solution is available for our platform, although perhaps too much of a pain on Windows.)

[@adiprasetya2261]

hi @Ponyxlnl you can update your Adobe Lightroom to the latest version. It supports Fuji's RAF. Or many people prefer to use Capture One that said it gives their better RAW processing for Fuji's RAF than other apps.

[@xmlthegreat]

There is a free version of Capture One for Fuji, you can use that to export DNGs if you don't want to use C1 itself for editing (you should try it at least)

[@flpideas1]

Set detail slider to 0 and use sharpening / masking with detail slider set to 0. Try it, it works for me

[@Ponyxlnl]

@@JonInLondon I have done. It supports it but still issues. I use capture one. I just don't like it too much.

[@andreasbuder4417]

To be honest, there is no clear winner, because they are all great cameras with different strenghts and weaknesses. So, your decision should be based on your needs, because that defines, which camera is the best - for you!

[@johnxantoro5511]

There is a clear loser, though: Nikon. The lens support is just unacceptable and if their F-Mount APS-C track record is any indication, it's not going to change. Don't buy Nikon APS-C.

[@andreasbuder4417]

@@johnxantoro5511 I dont necessarily see that. After all, with the 1.8 primes, you get robust build and weathersealing, something I would like to have. Other than that, for the time being, you are probably right. In my case, the M6 ii is the best bet, because I crop frequently. I can digitally crop 2x, and still get 8MP with almost 1-inch sensor size left.(using the primes for enough resolving power). Sufficient for good 16x24 inch prints.

[@johnxantoro5511]

@@andreasbuder4417 The thing is this: FF lenses on APS-C is good for Nikon but bad for the customer. You pay with weight, size and money for an image circle you simply don't need. Nikon doesn't respect APS-C at all and it is easy to demonstrate: F-Mount APS-C (DX) has been around for 18 (!!) years and Nikon only made 4 primes for it so far. Two of those primes are macros and one is a fucking fisheye. In 18 years Nikon didn't bother to even make a 35 or 28 or 85 mm equiv. lens for DX. It's absolutely pathetic and an insult to the customer.

[@HappyHubris]

Hey hey hey this is the internet, buddy! You're supposed to make black and white statements and then fight over them tooth and nail.

[@Rek-55]

@@johnxantoro5511 simply adapt other lense to other SLR manufacturer..

[@simonyoung1339]

Some things that should be noted: 1. The X-T30 has a 10 minute time limit in 4K. 2. The M6ii overheats after about 40 minutes of continuous 4K. 3. The M6ii is a very laggy camera when it comes to photos, with an obnoxiously loud shutter that vibrates through the whole body. After pressing the shutter the screen then freezes an instant that is certainly noticeable and irritating. 4. The Z50 looks cleaner than the previously mentioned when recording video in higher iso and it doesn’t overheat, but has no compact primes.

[@SethMclton]

is no.3 actually a problem? i haven't seen that mentioned anywhere else

[@simonyoung1339]

Seth MacLaren No the lower noise is not a problem but they should have mentioned it as a positive.

[@Rek-55]

And you not noticed Z50 have cosmic price, and not better quality...

[@simonyoung1339]

Rek-5 ?

[@SethMclton]

@@simonyoung1339 sorry you have two no.3's, I meant the Canon lag and shutter sound

[@anubratapradhan2685]

After weeks of research I'm going to get a X-T30 next Sunday.. wish me the best! 😊

[@romualdb5968]

hi there did u have it? can u do a review? i'm looking for good quality picture of my daughter (so portrait and movement) is it good one?

[@jaym2356]

How did you find it? I’m planning to get one too soon

[@emmanuelpamei]

I would pick the same.

[@ronaldmontilla6239]

I just got the xt30 this holiday season because of the big discount they offered. I do mostly photography, and im super impressed with the image quality even using only the kitlens.

[@anubratapradhan2685]

@@romualdb5968, it's awesome.. it has great handling, picture quality, video and quite high end features. It's really the little giant!

[@border056]

Thanks for the video. I pulled the trigger on the X-T30 with the 18-55 kit lens. This is my first real camera and I’m super excited.

[@bijosn]

as a sony user, i will say fuji is the most fun. I have a sony a7iv but picked up a fuji xt30 ii for the fun factor

[@pascalhibon7928]

I have owned an X-T30 for about a year but recently sold it and bought an Z50. The X-T30 produces nice images but I don't get along with Fuji. It has poor ergonomics (too small buttons, menu systems is not that great and the it doesn't feel good in my hands). I don't like the manual dials on top of the camera either. It is not easy to dial in the right settings while composing. I just returned from a vacation with the Z50 and I'm surprised how much I love this little camera. Ergonomics is fantastic, IQ is superb and the kit lens is amazing. I feel that the Z50 is a very underrated camera!

[@Asmoc23]

I"m loving the Sony's ugliness point and shoot look. When i'm taking pictures everyone ignores me. It's perfect! :D

[@gordonyz4]

I keep checking my eBay notifications

[@shreddz]

Seriously! It got me the first two times

[@EpicNovA97]

@@LuLeBe On android phones, the default notification sound for eBay was the sound they used for the image quality test reveal @ 2:52

[@einmanaulfur]

lol, was looking for this comment!

[@jaydunkley6878]

Same!!!!

[@Astrolavista]

Fuji are killing it at the moment, This is coming from someone who has only ever used Canon and Pany's.

[@ThorDyrden]

Maybe I'm a little biased, since I luckily decided for Fuji few years ago (ditching Olympus) - but at least here in Germany, among enthusiast I meet in the photo-club or on organized shootings it seems Fujifilm is everywhere. I even see a lot of GFX here. Of course you need to consider I mainly meet people who are investing in their hobby spending money already on models and photo-travels. I would assume the market looks different for non-enthusiast buying one good camera and kit-lens for their home-shots etc.

[@JungleCatImages]

2 of my non 'professional' friends are buying themselves Fuji this holiday season at my suggestion.. The entry level Fuji's can be found for like $500 w/ lens, they are super fun and easy to shoot and the kit lenses are fantastic..

[@Nulrom]

Same here in Italy. I switched from Olympus em5mkII (that had a better viewfinder and backscreen and image stabilization) for a xe3. I love the ex3. Even if I find myself looking at the screen too much I don't miss the Oly. The overall feeling is better. Images are better, noise at high iso is better, menu's are WAY better, construction is better. Every time I took the camera out I know I will enjoy the experience. This is what I wanna pay for. I have to say I shoot manual lenses and Olympus was a pain in the ass. I feel they have great engineers but very bad managers.

[@punkrachmaninoff]

i went fuji from canon and sony... bye canon and sony, that's all i can say. said bye to adobe in most situations also... hahahaha.

[@mattnewman128]

I agree with most comments on fuji, but unfortunately i sold off all my Fuji gear as when shooting in raw, there are better options out there when using Lightroom and Photoshop, which I am comfortable using. Just a note on those who are looking to move into the Fuji camp, great system but I was not willing to run multiple software editing system. Systems used, Olympus, Sony, Fuji, Nikon and Canon.

[@mohsin_sait]

3:03 is messed up.

[@bodkinsbestphotography]

God, that scene change soundbite is driving me nuts. Every time I hear it I check my phone thinking it's an eBay notification...

[@james1939-s1c]

The z50 feels like a pro camera, keeps up with specs, and shares the mount with the full frame lineup. Nikon did a great job on this camera.

[@denyxrunner]

James Ryan agree but right now it make no sense because they aren’t lens

[@Stefan1968ful]

James Ryan Well, but it’s just a Nikon.

[@SergeyCoder]

No lenses - no party. Also these lenses are too pricey.

[@JB_Hobbies]

I’m just so glad that through a little research and a lot of dumb luck I picked up a Sony a6000 a number of years ago on Black Friday. Sony has such a robust mirrorless system, and their one-mount strategy creates a path between their enthusiast and pro cameras, which is a very valuable benefit. When I bought my full frame body, I didn’t also have to scramble and buy all new glass because I planned ahead and bought a few full frame lenses for my a6000 before I got a full frame body.

[@JB_Hobbies]

@SF6 I disagree with you. The one mount making it easy for me to go to full frame was one of the reasons I went with Sony. This let me stay with the same system and keep all my old gear once I decided to go full frame. Knowing this, I bought both full frame and aps-c lenses for my a6000. Once I decided to go full frame, I already had some full frame lenses that I was already using and didn't immediately need to go buy new lenses. In my personal experience, I found the one mount to be very practical and valuable due to its flexibility.

[@squalie9]

I don't understand why Sony continues to get knocked for their grip, while fuji continues to skate through with that paltry grip.

[@rexonpadre864]

Agreed

[@SoundSpeeding]

Because of the rest of the ergonomics about the Fuji is GREAT

[@squalie9]

@@SoundSpeeding Aside from grip everything else is subjective. Very few people care about a bunch of dials

[@SoundSpeeding]

@@squalie9 an extra dial is a commonly mentioned feature that people appreciate. Would you rather use Sony a5100 which has very few external controls of the Fuji X-T3 which has everything at your finger tips?

[@tim2163]

Sony sucks

[@SuperLisandro86]

Agree with all the video, expect with the lenses part. Yeah, Fuji has nice native APSC lenses, but the choice in sony is bigger: The Sigma trio: 16, 30 and 56mm f1.4 that give a run for the monay to the Fuji counterparts (and in the case of the 30mm and 56mm, has also better AF too). Small FF lenses: You can use the good 28mm f2, 35mm f2.8, 50mm f1.8, 55mm f1.8 and 85mm f1.8. And in the case of 28, 50 and 85, they have a really good pricing too. Telephoto: Wildlife and sports are better covered with all the telephoto lenses Sony has, while Fuji only offers the 100-400 and the 200 f2 + TC. Future: Tamron just released a 28mm and 35mm f2.8 that are really good and with great close focus, with a 20mmf2.8 coming, and also a 17-28 f2.8 that is really nice. Also, Fuji has a major lens flaw: The 35mm f1.4, and 56mm f1.2 has terrible AF, and the 23mm f1.4 is far from the "Fujicrons" in this aspect too, so much that in every fujirumorus website, when they made polls about new lenses, they mark II version of this lenses are always the most demanded.

[@_fn_5344]

I agree, the lens selection for Sony E mount is by far the biggest. There are no really long telelens available for Fuji and third party lenses are lacking. Both Fujifilm and Sony needs to release mark 2 version of some of their oldest lenses, but Fuji probably more so than Sony.

[@chrissoclone]

and yet the 35 1.4 is still the one you can pry from my cold dead hands. It's older, it's not as fast as the newer ones, yet it's lovely and charismatic and in no way "bad" just because it's not fast enough or weather sealed. Calling it a "major flaw" can only come from people who are comparing stats, not pictures. Some people use all manual Leica lenses, they're not usually known as the flaws of the lineup...

[@problemat1que]

Even the infamous XF 35mm F1.4 focuses as fast as I can press the shutter on a current gen (X-T3/X-T30) body for single AF. For continuous AF, it's another story but I wouldn't shoot sports with these lenses anyway.

[@zeissiez]

We can go on comparing features, image quality etc. But I always feel like there’s Fujifilm, and there’s the rest.

[@productguru8323]

Great comparison! After watching this, I decided to go for a M43 camera!

[@mvhan911]

Which mft with small form factor and great auto focus ?

[@jonbarnard7186]

"The image quality didn't blow me away." Kind of vague.

[@danieldougan269]

Canon needs a full new generation of EOS M cameras, including a weather-sealed model with IBIS and no-compromise video specs.

[@koolkutz7]

If Canon released an M5 mk2 with IBIS, weather-sealed body, dual card slots, 4K 60p 4:2:2 10 bit video and some more decent lenses (particularly a super-telephoto), then they would have a winner.

[@tjkrueger2655]

Nah, they need to pay more attention to their m mount glass. Not many options in their lineup to take advantage of that 32mp sensor

[@Aksunkuvat]

@@koolkutz7 if cows could fly

[@floriang2801]

Raymond Chen I installed custom picture profiles on my Canon 6D. Maybe it’s possible on the M50 as well.

[@jonathanlogan6953]

@@koolkutz7 so... The X-T4?

[@svenoyntzen6162]

This looks like the right place to ask a question about the Z50: I was shooting the z50 with FtZ adapter and Sigma 17-70 2.8-4 at lowlight event conditions . When shooting at ISO 1600+ at F4 -200 I got yellow and purple horizontal lines in some picture. When I was shooting outside at daylight it was gone? No idea what I did wrong. We shot at the same event with the d800 and had no problems at all. Could this be a sensor problem or am I doing something wrong? ps: the z50 was overall a lot more fun to shoot with than the heavy d800;)

[@andrzejjaniak6849]

There are 4 most important aspects when shooting a camera for me: 1. AF 2. IQ 3. Handling and 4. Lenses. And for me Sony is the winner here. It has the best AF, the IQ in RAW files is there, it has a good grip and there are now a lot of decent lenses in the Sony system.

[@burritobrosvideos8060]

Same

[@oscararborist]

Hey, Chris and Jordan, there's a mistake at 3:04, Nikon z50 labeled as Sony a6400.

[@Mithinco]

Yup, typo!

[@Sorennn94]

And now that you’ve mentioned it do you feel more happy about yourself?

[@oscararborist]

Hi, GL. No, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be critical. I just wanted Chris and Jordan to know in case they had an easy way to fix it.

[@Sorennn94]

oscararborist I understand what you are saying,but we have to concentrate more on the actual review rather to minor things Thnx

[@oscararborist]

@@Sorennn94 Ok. Thanks. Yes, I thought it was a very good review, they seemed to cover a lot very efficiently. Very informative and helpful.

[@kertbonior1885]

I just recently bought Fuji XT30 and i didnt regret buying it! And the kit lens XF 18-55mm was very superb! Amazing Fuji!

[@stehlealexander]

M43 !!!!!! This Episode was shoot with it!!!

[@problemat1que]

I agree, they play in this market. (Enthusiast, price conscious.) I like the pioneering work by Olympus in the computational direction, and that you get two camera brands in one mount. I didn't like the price they ask for what you get. Future sensor generations (global shutter, counting wells) may well make MFT the sweet spot for certain applications (especially telefocus sport and wildlife, and even high DOF studio portrait).

[@mikelobdell2666]

I have to agree that it makes it seem like they are saying that if you are considering midrange enthusiast then m4/3 should not even be on your radar. I think that M4/3 has to be compared to apsc. That would include pointing out where you lose (noise, megapixels)and where you win (size, lenses stabilization)

[@sirfabio]

I left a comment now, they ignored one of the very best cameras in the market which is the Olympus E-M5 III

[@JC-fj7oo]

Olympus fanboys right now lmao

[@Vinterloft]

m4/3 is fine for casual photographers and broke prosumers but APS-C is the entry sensor size where you can find any professional cameras. (Dual SD card slots, weather sealing, rugged, availability of lenses that are equal to at least f1.8 on full frame)

[@Rohemne]

I care mostly about photography and only marginally about video, so the Canon is the choice for me. First in class with image quality and second for autofocus, that's fantastic. And now, in 2022, also the lens category got much much better. Just snatched one for 885€ with the kit lenses and the viewfinder, can't wait 'till I put my hands on it

[@mbismbismb]

Same i wont shoot video that long except b rolls and with a camera with small battery capacity, i rather get a dedicated one

[@p.sethia1830]

i love my nikon Z50 with 50mm f/1.8!

[@beahumanbeingfirst]

Crappy camera

[@adiprasetya2261]

Great review & comparison Chris 🙂 I'm Fuji & Canon user. Do you notice about freezing issue on X-T30? That bad thing happens a lot on mine mostly when I use it for studio portrait with manual mode (SS 1/125, ISO 160, and Aperture ranges about 4 to 8). It can freezes for more than 5 times during about 3 or 4 hours of photo shoot. It really makes me so bad because i missed a lot of great moments when taking portrait picture due to freezes accidentally. When my X-T30 freezes, the lamp indicator above joystick turn orange and I've to take the battery off then insert it again. So Annoying. I used to think this freezing issue just happens to my X-T30. But it happens too to many people I'd read/watched their experience from googling. It happened since previous generations like X-T20 or X-T2. And i wonder why Fuji doesnt aware this issue. So, in my opinion, Fuji X-T30 is unreliable camera for portrait photography untill they release new firmware to fix this annoying & embarrasing issue. Fuji should assures that everything basic is well done or running smoothly without any problem before they improve their product with additional or advanced features.

[@_shreyash_anand]

Had mine now for 5 and a half months. Works absolutely fine. No such issues whatsoever.

[@adiprasetya2261]

@@_shreyash_anand did you ever use it for portrait in manual mode with flash trigger attached? (i'm using godox X2T trigger attached to control 2-3 flash lights when freezing problem suddenly happens)

[@problemat1que]

How many shots per minute are we talking? Is your camera simply clearing the buffer or overheating?

[@adiprasetya2261]

@@problemat1que It just about 2 to 4 shots per minute. I'm using S drive, not CL / CH drive. I know well that's not overheating problem because I'm sure not using burst mode. It just normal single shot usage for portrait.

[@adiprasetya2261]

@@problemat1que my XT30 suffers freezing problem just like what happened to them: www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4296037

[@gianlucaziza714]

months later, I think the ranking of the image quality has to be reversed! when you made this comparison, you had not yet officially tested the Nikon Z50, which in fact from your own site, today, comes out as the one with the best performing sensor above all. especially at high ISO. not to mention, how the two lenses of the Z50 kit have been completely rehabilitated by your next review. not a beautiful thing Jordan...

[@sedevacante966]

It has the same pixel density of a roughly 18-megapixel canon apsc camera. The M6 ii has about 55% more pixels or you can think of it as 75% more pixels if you need to crop anyways.

[@skyrunr]

I don't know, I'm testing/trying the Z50 now against my D500. The Z50 works MUCH better with older DX lenses so far. I'd gladly pay twice as much for the kit if both the kit lenses were f2-F4. Not to mention not offering a single pancake 24-35mm prime under $600.

[@christian_alejandro_buchanan]

Hi, Chris !!! Excelent video !!! In my humble opinion, and based on my experience, in terms of VIDEO characteristics (NOT professional) I would summarize it like this: Nikon Z50: - The best image quality in APS-C (excellent clarity and sharpness). - The best low-light performance (very low digital noise level). - The best screen (biggest). - The one with the best audio capture (with internal mic). - The one with the best grip. Sony A6400: - The one with the best autofocus (fast and precise). - Great availability of lenses. - The one with the best options for post-production. - The only one that has unlimited video recording (limited only by the battery, of course). - Fuji XT-30: - The one with the best colors. - Great availability of lenses. Canon M6: - The one with the best skin tones. Keep it up, Chris !!! Greetings !!!

[@althds7099]

The Nikon Z50 is available in my country, idk from when but it is here and for the price of an XT30 i can get it with the adapter and i can use my Dad's lenses.

[@problemat1que]

That's the difference, you have a dad with old lenses. Many others don't (or want native lenses).

[@joopschaeffer6826]

@@problemat1que I wil never use the kit lenses on the Z50, the 14-30 f:/4 S ore the 24-70 f:/4 S are so much better. And the compact 40 mm is coming.

[@msandersen]

I’d agree with this assessment and rating, at least from what I know it’s fair. When I was ready to give mirrorless a try, I was, still am, using a Canon 80D and happy overall with APS-C with Sigma lenses (Canon isn’t committed to quality and affordable APS-C lenses). Canon came out with the M5, and I went over all the reviews and samples, but the one thing that stuck out then, consistently, despite the M line having been around for years, there were few lenses, and all slow plasticky lenses. I wanted to do more street with fast primes, things like size, the right lens selection, ergonomics, and frankly style, was important. Canon has always been great in ergonomics, the button layout looked intuitive, but the others were a letdown, and then there was price. M43 was a step too far for me, so it was a question of Sony or Fuji. There’s something about Sony I don’t like, and frankly the retro silver Fuji felt just right, and the lens selection of quality small, fast and mostly affordable primes made the choice for me. If Canon had a good lineup of lenses ready and a camera like the m6 mkII, I would probably have stuck with Canon, just because that was what I was used to. If I had a lot of spare cash lying around, I would be happy to test it out again, but my faith in their commitment to APS-C is waning. Even on my 80D, it’s all Sigma. The 80D is a reliable workhorse, where I don’t mind bigger heavier lenses, or looking ‘pro’, whereas the x-t20 is for fun walk around and street where I like having a selection of primes from 9mm to 50mm, plus the 55-200mm zoom, in my bag without getting backpain, a small, light camera that’s quiet and non-intrusive you can blend into a crowd with, without people, including security guards, thinking you’re a pro. Even other photographers keep mistaking my silver x-t20 for a film camera, as I have a thumb grip on it that looks like a rewind lever at a glance. Btw, my favourite street lens is the 23mm f1.4, followed by ironically, the 18-55mm (a ‘lowly’ kit lens, the first lens along with the 35mm I got with the camera).

[@hiresmusic]

...And as addition Nikon Z50 can use cheap & great Nikon lenses (trough adapter) 35 .1.8 ,50 1.8 etc. Sony & Fuji users who begin game must buy relatively expensive lenses,most of them not suprass Nikon cheapies.

[@torstenkenning]

But the FTZ adapter itself is already 200€/USD $200. I would like to have 1 ! native, not adapted main driver (size, autofocus without compromises) and would be happy to adapt more glass with good value for price for all other scenarios that I do every now and then. As much as would like to buy the Nikon z50 or Canon M6ii, these both fail in this approach as there is no decent standard zoom with good sharpness, not too slow and of okay‘ish feel/haptic. :-( ;-( My current considerations against one or the other: Canon: EVF + native Glass Nikon: native glass just FF and way to expensive for me, but superb upgrade option Sony: Touchscreen implementation, EVF resolution, EF glass expensive, though decent primes for price 3rd party. Have A6000 unused on the shelf, don‘t enjoy it. Fuji: Looks like the roundest package, but nothing longer than the XC50-230 which has f6.7 at the long end OR pay >1.000 €/$ USD. X-S10 looks promising though.

[@mbismbismb]

The m6ii has 3 exposure triangle setting in their own separate own hardware dials though..

[@uaaadingding]

hey @DPReview, owning a Sony A-6300 I agree that this cam has ergonomics issues, but to complain about its (existing) grip and not eviscerate the Fuji for THEIR non existing grip I'd call non balanced.

[@hooked4lifeca]

I saw a software comment down below, so it's probably a good idea to mention that Capture One offers a Fujifilm version that is tuned to Fujifilm cameras and RAW output. Capture One is a Lightroom equivalent, and depending on who you talk to, better than Lightroom. Capture One is more expensive when buying the full camera supported version, but the Fujifilm only version is cheaper. Capture One also supports external editors, so I can jump in and out of the NIK suite or the Affinity suite without leaving Capture One. For the amateur market that these cameras are aimed at, the Capture One Fujifilm version is a good alternative. There's a Sony version as well. I've done the dial control with DSLRs, mirrorless and P&S cameras - the Fujifilm approach to a traditional control layout drew me into their product line. To my mind, this is what really separates Fujifilm from the rest. It's not for everyone obviously, but it should be given a higher profile in these reviews. We can also go the dial approach on Fujifilm cameras if we wish, so there's no loss by incorporating a traditional control layout, only gains. This is worth pointing out in reviews.

[@edwardnazzaro3685]

The Nikon Z50 has a new sensor, not the same as the Nikon D7500. Your using the D7500 images in the comparison isn’t valid.

[@MLNSCy]

You are*

[@natedagreat90]

@@MLNSCy stfu

[@MLNSCy]

@Nate the "great"

[@natedagreat90]

@@MLNSCy don't wear it out

[@ralphaaa80]

@@MLNSCy No. He means " your:" possessive.

[@CaressLorthaya]

This was an AMAZING comparison my goodness!

[@luthval]

Very happy with the M6II and the EF-M 32mm 1.4... Great combo (and adapter with the Tamron macro SP 90mm 2.8). No problem with the EVF, always on the camera. Great image quality and ergonomy. Video, I don't use.

[@mbismbismb]

Ikr dunno why this channel prefer it over the fuji awful menu

[@semireality]

Thank you for your review and I've picked up my XT-30 yesterday. A huge improvement over my old XT-1 to be honest at a very reasonable price point.

[@Lurreable]

It would be interesting to see how the EOS RP compares. It's about the same price as any of these plus lenses with either the 35 mm or the new F4-7.1 zoom.

[@noahbroers8005]

I recently bought the canon and i dont regret it after watching this video. We had some lenses left from full frame canon cameras and i prefer pictures over videos

[@Votjko]

Wondering why cost of the cameras wasn't part of the equation as thats almost always the biggest reason to get one over the other?

[@thomasasannes]

I have owned all of those cameras. And I could not disagree more with your conclusion. The only thing I do agree on is the ergonomic of the z50 and that sony have the better auto focus. The lenses of the Z50 is incredible! Also the dynamic range and high is is amazing on the Z50. If you do long exposure and night photo you will have alot of hot pixels on your fuji. The canon has poor dynamic range compared to the Nikon

[@sandrasdcuocsongcanada9415]

Why snow so blue!? Some thing wrong with my eyes vs your camera!!!😁

[@alanliao7044]

Got a XT 30 with 35mm f2 prime lens. They are all FANTASTIC! The well balanced look and light weight are extraordinary. Can’t love them more

[@suzettebecquet7210]

Hi there did you choose this lense for portrait?

[@igorwulff6516]

When looking at image quality myself, the Z50 actually seems to outscores the rest of them especially at high ISO when comparing them, perhaps next to the Fuji -T30? Of course the lower resolution has downsides. The canon to me seems disappointing even and lowest of the bunch when look at image quality. I do like it's compact size, good handling and compact lens options.

[@johnbeck4216]

Agreeded. The Z50’s iso noise is noticeably cleaner (1-3 stops) than other APS-C models.

[@marwaelchazlycp]

yes I'm about changing to mirrorless category and really your review helped a lot...Thank you

[@vgee3926]

4:22 what in the world happened to her eyebrows!!

[@davidlewis1787]

It’s a massive look in the UK right now...baffling

[@maktoobyt2009]

That was a Sketch book

[@mkmkmk845]

god used a laser guided eyebrow etching tool for her

[@ThisIsDavesGarage]

Yeah, what the fuck lmao

[@JustinTurner]

My D5300 broke and I'd like to make the jump to mirrorless for my travel/kids pictures. This video helped me rule out the Canon, but I still can't decide if I should stick with Nikon so I can use my flash and DX lenses or switch to Sony (or, after watching this, maybe the T30). I mostly take pictures, so the video differences aren't important to me. Somehow I have to decide before the holidays get here, so if anyone has used these cameras and has a thought on which is best for general photos, I'd love to hear it!

[@Durio_zibethinus]

Already seen entry level apsc video, and I'm glad you guys continuing from that one. But no love for m43? I'm interest between m43 and apsc, I hope you would like to make one, hehe... Lightweight and fast autofocus are my main concern . In the end ff's lenses are just too heavy -and expensive- for me (even though A7iii seems perfect for my need) Cheers..

[@tebitan3780]

Well, it depends. Tamron's FE lenses are pretty light and not so expensive, and prolly better than anything you have on m43. And there are some nice 1.8 primes from Sony which are light and smallish and give you much better bokeh etc than any m43 lens. And the A7 III is not bigger or heavier than the Pana G9.

[@SuperLisandro86]

If only Olympus would have priced the OMD M5 III in this price range (800-900$) it would be nice to have it. But at that 1.200$ release price is just a bad joke.

[@MVargabass]

Durio sp lightweight and fast autofocus is a6400, somewhere in the future you could upgrade to Sony fullframe what’s promising

[@Durio_zibethinus]

@@tebitan3780 thank you for your answer. I check it based on your reply and yes, they're relatively cheap. Now time to find someone who kind enough to let me abusing it a little bit lol

[@Durio_zibethinus]

@@MVargabass I like sigma trio for sony, they have positive value from many reviewers. Is their lenses have different size based on different mount? Jumping from E mount to FE mount is a little bit of hassle. The crop from E mount lens would be a downside of it. I came from wildlife background so I know the struggle of carrying heavy lens. I'm not quite strong to begin with lol. But I appreciate your help, thank you :)

[@owenh3632]

Bought an X-T30 a couple weeks ago and I'm loving it even though I'm a total noob to photography!

[@suzettebecquet7210]

Hi owen which lenses do you use with your xt30? Any cons with your camera?

[@suzettebecquet7210]

@@owenh3632 any cons, with this camera, for you? How is autofocus ?

[@andrewmarks4640]

Q button....fail

[@romualdb5968]

@@andrewmarks4640 yes tht's Why i hesitate for x-h1, x-t30...but i don't know if for a Nikon d90 user (noob) it Will change something lol...so there's x-t3 left ...or other brand...i saw a sony a6000 it is so small...not to easy to hold in hand...but no Fuji around here...too bad

[@HolybasilYT]

I gotta disagree with image quality. The shitty x-trans raws knock the Fuji down to a third place in my opinion.

[@AbhaySharda]

Would you make this video again considering your views on the Z50 changed later on?

[@bramdoornbos]

Missing the Panasonic G90/G95 (or otherwise the GX9) on the table though having a smaller sensor ... should be fair to let it compete (or not?)

[@problemat1que]

I think price-performance wise it would be fair, as many are considering it in their buying choices. But then you'd also have to include cheaper FF options. I think in the end, all categories are arbitrary, in this case it's sensor size + mirrorless. I'm pretty sure DPR will also update their "best camera for under X dollars" articles.

[@FLLOVERUSA]

Hey Chris, enjoy your show. You are very knowledgeable about the cameras. I’ve watched you so many times. Keep up the good work Chris.

[@barkan86]

We need M50 Mark ii with faster lenses.

[@mbismbismb]

There is flat profile on the m6ii video profile though, u can customize the pic profile and slide the saturation slider all the way to 0

[@alanplatt888]

I thought a very well presented review packed with information, nice one, thanks

[@diyateli1671]

This is such an incredible comparison. I cannot thank you enough!

[@mkmkmk845]

on your site fuji xt30 has lower score than canon m6 mk2 and sony a6400, why?????

[@Ohlukei]

by giving between one and four points to the cameras dependend on your review the Nikon Z50 places 4th with 10 points (67 %), the Canon M6 Mark II places 3rd with 12 points (80 %), the Sony a6400 places 2nd with 13 points (87 %) and the winner is the Fujifilm X-T30 with 15 points (100 %).

[@harrywix]

So much covered in so little time. Thank you!!!

[@vitalieb.8886]

Thanks for the video. I am still undecided which one to pick up. May I ask what camera would be the best option to buy in long term, considering I have no video/photography experience but want to use it for general filming, travel and products' reviews. Fujifilm X-T30 Digital Cameras with XF 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 R LM OIS WR Lens - Black =£990 Canon EOS M6 Mark II Mirrorless Digital Camera with Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM Lens For Canon Mount = £874 Sony Alpha A6400 Mirrorless Digital Camera - Black with Sony SEL E PZ 18-105mm f/4 G OSS Lens Sony E-mount = £917 Thank you for any advice.

[@OZbibaO]

Canon winning image quality? Who would've thought a year ago

[@problemat1que]

Noise at 4:28 still looks very colorful when it should be grey.

[@frenchfries8745]

Yeah things change quickly

[@HotarusLens]

@@problemat1que Color noise is easy enough to tame in post though compared to luma noise IMO.

[@edrader]

anyone who has been around a few years and remembers, say, the original 5d

[@Littleboxofevil]

I can tell you that above iso 800 the noise is apparant in the jpg's, but RAW image quality is vastly different. It's the firstapsc camera where I'm not afraid to use.iso 1600-3200, the raws are very workable!

[@j_a_lee]

Just subscribed. I've recently watched quite a few of your videos and examined a few more sample pictures on the road to buying a camera kit. Now I find myself watching for the entertainment value! Hard and fast and fair stuff with a sprinkling of humour. Love it!

[@joec.1030]

Great summary. 👍🏻 Still leaning to the LUMIX G95 as it stacks up well with this APS-C group and has great ergonomics, build, features and lens options.

[@koolkutz7]

G95 looks decent value for money. I ownned the G80/85 and it was pretty good with decent image quality and features. The main downside is the poor AF (especially for tracking action/wildlife), but that is the same for all Panasonic cameras sadly. The higher ISO performance is about 1 stop worse than aps-c sensor & 2 stops worse than FF sensors as to be expected.

[@OptLab]

Don't forget what's APC and mirrorless are for in the first place ! Compactness. Remember that if you stick to a nex3-5 (no EVF) The camera really becomes pocketable. And the a6400 is already the smallest of the presented products.

[@drichi07]

I proposed with an original Fujifilm X100 back in 2011. Still waiting on that damned thing to boot up, focus, randomly shutdown, restart, and refocus. Hope she is still interested whenever it does.

[@peterlemke3468]

Very funny. How long did she hold the pose for?

[@problemat1que]

I had an X100T before and hated the AF for people shots (it never got the firmware 4.0 updates all the other bodies in that generation got, if you can imagine that). I'm actually interested to get an OG X100 for sentimental reasons, and to ignore its AF by just setting it to manual zone focus at high F-stop and snap away in daylight. Given that the X100V hasn't come out yet, I hope it comes with X-Pro3 level AF, so it won't need firmware updates. I'm excited to see what it can do.

[@CaptainJCRage]

it is an accurate rating IMO. I hope the a6600 was also included as comparison to these four cameras just to know how it stacks up with the current apsc system from different brands.

[@Durio_zibethinus]

A6600 would fit more at high end apsc system comparison

[@AgentBlackCrow]

Captain JC Rage it would go up against FF X-T 3. I expect results would be quite similar to the results in this video. Ergos, lenses, photo/video to Fuji, AF to Sony.

[@hedgehog_dilemma]

a6600 is using a6400 so basically u get the same result but with IBIS, Large battery and better grip

[@CuriousGoose]

I love the Tomb raider sounds.

[@renonagasan]

I'm looking for a do-it-all mirrorless camera along this price range but I can't decide which one to get. I want that one that can take good quality travel videos and travel photography.

[@jamespeirce2582]

I don’t know why you would omit M43 from a comparison like this. Both Panasonic and Olympus have been in this game for a very long time, have excellent systems, cameras, and lens lineups, and a hell of a lot to offer.

[@whitekiki]

Nikon z50 vs fuji xt30, can you make it please?

[@nikanj]

I would avoid the Canon just because it's hard to say whether Canon have any intention of supporting the mount into the future. The Sony and Nikon share a mouth with the companies' full-frame flagship mirrorless cameras so you can count on continued support. And Fuji, without a doubt, already has the most complete APS-C mirrorless lens lineup of any mount even though there's no pathway to full-frame.

[@JonInLondon]

Canon are selling a lot of them though, so lenses are going to be available for a long time (plus an infinite number of cheap EF lenses to adapt). They will probably sell more M6mk2s than Fuji sell in total, they are almost certainly selling more M50s than Fuji's total mirrorless unit sales. Against that designing lots of new RF lenses will likely slow new EF-M lens appearances. Also Sony and Nikon have really bad records on making many useful DX/APS lenses. Fuji have a lack of stabilised primes (for low-light/video) and several old but good lenses have slow AF motors and no sign of updates. I really have no idea what the best choice is. Probably people should try using them and pick the one that feels best in the hand and easiest to select options and change them repeatedly, plus a good EVF. I suspect a camera you like from the emotional level and find easy to use is a better solution than trying for one that is best at everything (doesn't exist), unless you want to do just one thing well (e.g. wildlife, social, etc.), when it's probably none of these.

[@oneeyedphotographer]

About the time of the EOS R, I think it was, Canon announced the EF-M 32 mentioned here, And now the EOS M 6 Mark II. I don't think these are going away, they sell very well, particularly in Japan.

[@frenchfries8745]

This is a good point but it seems that canon will support this system for quite some time.

[@ziginox]

I wish they'd mentioned that Sony licenses the E-mount specs out to those third parties, unlike the reverse-engineering done for all of the competitors here. (Seriously, the Sigma lenses upgrade on-body using the same software Sony does for their own lenses!)

[@floriang2801]

I am sure they will support the EF-M mount in the future. The M6 II shows that they want to make the cheaper APSC cameras with M mount and FF with RF mount. EOS M cameras are also the best selling cameras in Asia. The small size of the cameras and lenses is a huge selling point. You can’t make cameras and lenses quite that small with the RF mount.

[@waltstevesphotography7128]

It’s not an older sensor. Designed for the z50. Color is awesome.

[@chrisgill4187]

the fact that the z50 can use any z glass seems better than the now siloed eos m mount

[@tuquanvinh]

I'm a Fuji X-T30 user. Been with Fuji for almost 3 years. Gotta say X-T30 improves a lot from X-T20, eye AF is spot on, even when the face is like 5% of the whole frame, it still can detect the face. But it still sometimes misses the subject. Another pain in the @$$ is face metering (I believe you have mentioned this in the X-T30 review, too), sometimes it's 2 stops brighter than the actual exposure of the photo. Another thing is the auto ISO bug with the custom settings. And you gotta turn Face select on every time you restart the camera. One thing I really love from Sony is face register. Hope that Fuji will get there soon.

[@problemat1que]

I'm seeing the face AF option staying on between turning the camera off and on. I use single-point metering, it works great. What auto ISO bug are you referring to?

[@althds7099]

Seems they forgot to change the "Sony a6400" text to "Nikon Z50"

[@errolsmith5634]

That's how bad they wanted the SONY to fail.

[@Sorennn94]

And now that you’ve mentioned it do you feel more happy about yourself?

[@Rek-55]

All understand that there s Nikon...

[@ZangLussuria]

Loved this review. I'm a Nikon crop DSLR user but was planning on switching to mirrorless as I'll be doing hybrid shooting. Fuji makes amazing crop sensor cameras but is it viable if there's no full-frame option to upgrade to in the future? I was disappointed with the Z50 not having a fully articulating screen. I would even consider it if it was flip up but it flips down under! So I can't use a tripod or a gimbal and face the camera to me. Even their D5xxx series has fully articulating screen. I don't mind using the FTZ adapter on some of my 2.8 lenses but no log mode is also disappointing. Considering the XS-10 because of IBIS and the film simulation and no real need to color grade for quick videos but I'm apprehensive as I won't have an upgrade path in the future as Fuji doesn't make full frame bodies. Sony 6600 checks a lot of boxes but the price point is way too much and yes, their lenses are quite expensive. Lowest barrier to entry is the Fuji as even their XA series has at least decent performance.

[@MadEnglishTV]

You guys are awesome. 😃😃

[@genghis2510]

I'm a diehard Nikon guy but I bought a dirt cheap used a6000 (shutter actuation less than 2,000) with a pancake 20mm 2.8 lens attached to it from a lady friend. It's my get-and-go camera I use to scout construction sites (my business). After a while I gave away that a6000 body (retaining the pancake lens) and acquired a used a6300 from a neighbor who upgraded to a6500. Actually, I like the sleek, sturdy and minimalist design of Sony a6xxx series - no protruding viewfinder on the top plate. I do my first shoot with the a6300 (test and review) before I set up my Nikons. And as long as the a6xxx design remains the same I will continue to upgrade and scout for good value second-hand units

[@Tvingos]

Canon coming in first on image quality - what a time to be alive! ;)

[@problemat1que]

Although apparently image quality = megapixels in this video. Not enough time spent on real resolution (AA filter), and noise quality (color vs luminance noise). And to some extent, AF and IQ are linked because IQ won't be ideal when missing focus but apparently the Canon is doing quite well in that regard.

[@nore8141]

APS-C. Great video and commentary. So when will you be talking about the micro4/3rds, like the Panasonic g85? Just want to make sure it’s a great camera, today.

[@Bellcat539]

I love how Chris pronounced 'Z' the 'proper' way, well done Sir

[@AgentBlackCrow]

John haha, yes, but screws up with Nikon!

[@jimmyhill9591]

The Brits, Canucks, Aussies and many others pronounce Z as 'zed' because it comes from the Greek alphabet as 'zeta'. How 'ta' changed to 'd' I have no clue. If 'zed' is the proper pronunciation shouldn't the Fuji be called a 'chi tau'-30? Wouldn't that make the Nikon a 'mu'-6? The mind boggles...

[@xmlthegreat]

@@jimmyhill9591 yes because what you said makes a lot of sense and isn't against the organic nature of lingual development /S

[@bodkinsbestphotography]

@@jimmyhill9591 You'd think after listening to Zed95.3fm all through my childhood I'd use it too, but I prefer Zee.

[@COMEDYiNSiDE]

Very informative. Unfortunately I have bought the second position.

[@b3naqua]

Still team a6400 cuz it’s autofocus was created by hyper advanced alien life forms

[@SlowToe]

Only 208k subs? Deserves 5 times more.