Canon EOS R 🥊 R6. Is it worth the upgrade?

[@wearethejamess]

I upgraded from the R to the R6 and will never look back! The R6 was an absolute beast for wedding videography. Now yes, the outside temperature was 88F outside and in the blasting sun. It did overheat but i just switched it to the 1080 and when you watch the video back, you would never know that it was a 1080 shot in 4k. The 10bit is absolutely phenomenal. also the button layout on the R6 is the best camera I've ever shot. I have shot every camera out there for weddings and vlogging. The R6 is the best by far. Autofocus is solid, color is insane, and the ability to have a scroll wheel for shutter, iso, and aperture makes this camera a leap above the competitors. also the last wedding i shot on the R6, the final shot when the couple was driving away in pich black night, my iso was at 51000 and there was almost 0 grain! that was shocking!

[@rynfilms]

So great to hear! This camera is perfect for wedding, events, and jobs where you have zero control of the lighting. That's a crazy ISO to be shooting at! I'll have to test out the R5 in low light. (I know the R6 would have been the better camera for low light) 🤷‍♂️

[@afrank3029]

So you uppgraded from 30,4 to 20 🤔

[@wearethejamess]

@@afrank3029 It sounds weird to say it that way but yes, it was a total upgrade! I never thought I would be able to say that with a 20 megapixel camera but it is by far the best camera I have ever shot!

[@jonpremosch9544]

@@afrank3029 doesn't make a difference lol

[@sonicvboom]

Your ISO was @ 51,000, and your image had almost *zero* grain? Who are you trying to 🤡 here, LOL?

[@tombuck]

I love your comparisons and reviews. They literally answer every question I have- it’s fantastic! (I’ve also got two R’s 😎 )

[@rynfilms]

I appreciate it Tom! I just try and answer the questions I have about these cameras. 👍

[@italktocamera]

Btw for ppl with EOS R. You can make moving time lapses with dji ronin s. It takes control of cameras trigger and you have your picture time lapse. Works well.

[@rynfilms]

That's a good trick! I didn't even think of mentioning that.

[@robertsparkes3292]

I have an R - I use it for video and photography, and I love it. The image from video is lovely. I use it in a professional studio environment for work and the editors love editing the footage, and I use it for a lot of outdoor video and photography, and having 30mp to play with is so good for wildlife. It’s a great all rounder for me - there are better spec cameras out there, no doubt; but for me... I love it!

[@rynfilms]

Awesome! I'm currently testing out the R5, I'm sure you've looked into it. Judging by what you said you use it for I think you might want to give it a shot. It's been an amazing camera so far!

[@alexshotthese]

Still got my R and love it. The stills from it are amazing.

[@rynfilms]

Yes!! The R was a highly under rated photo camera, I've taken some of my best photos with it. 👍

[@ironian24]

could not agree more, Canon do well from people who think new gear and cameras will make them a better photographer, makes me laugh to be honest.

[@healing2gether]

@@ironian24 couldn’t agree more!! I got rid of my Sony A7iii, Fujifilm XT3, and Panasonic G85 all for the EOS R...and I couldn’t be happier!! All the recent videos shot on my channel are with the R and I still feel like I have so much to learn about the camera that I couldn’t even imagine “upgrading” for any reason!! -Adam The New Woodworker

[@RockyMaiviaMiami]

The R6 is so much better in any not controlled environment. 12fps mechanical, more buttons , dual pixel 2.0, full frame 4K, two card slots, raw transfer over wireless, ibis, 120 refresh evf, joy stick, iso scroll wheel, better grip, better low light,10 bit, rate button, mentioned interval timer and better shadow recovery. I love my R, and was able to do what ever I needed before.... but let’s not act like the R6 isn’t hands down a huge upgrade. Usability is the upgrade.

[@xkben90]

Yup. I sold my EOS R after trying out the R6. I didn't notice the 10 MP that was missing from the R6. I DID, however, miss the : 1) faster menu browsing (snappier and quicker processor) 2) better low light (EOS R, I hesitated to do anything over 3200 ISO - R6, I was comfortable at 12,800). 3) Much quicker FPS (not that I need it, but it's fun!) 4) 4K60 - in this vid, the EOS R may seem to have the upper edge due to the crop (more range), but the R6 has the crop mode AND you can shoot it in 4k60. 5) 1080P is better on R6 6) Much much sharper image in 4k on the R6 (EOS R is cropped 4k, the R6 is oversampled 4K with 1.1 crop) The only thing I missed about the EOS R is the custom settings in video, but not having the custom settings has taught me to be quicker browsing around the menu and being more conscious of what setting I am currently in.

[@rynfilms]

Perhaps that's where I feel like it falls short. I shoot in a lot of controlled environments too. The R6 has some upgrades for sure. It also has just enough limitations that I didn't feel like it's worth it.. for me anyway.

[@michaelbell75]

@@rynfilms Same here. I shoot portraits, mostly in studio. Id much rather have that extra resolution in the R. Couldn't care less about IBIS, 12fps, better video etc...My money would be much better spent on higher end RF lenses or waiting for the R5 to come down in price.

[@m77ast]

I disagree. All those things you mentioned - I don’t care about. I am happy with 1080p video. 60fps is good enough for me. Now 30MP - that I cannot live without. I shoot in a studio and have a 1.5m printer. So 20MP good but any crop and you have an issue - it’s a naaa for me. I guess my 5D iii was good 24MP but I was always thinking about getting a higher MP camera. I waited so long but then ordered the EOS R😂😂😂😂. Even if it was 24MP - I would have got it but 20MP - why when there is a cheaper one with 30MP🤔🙄🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️ just did not make any sense. 😂😂😂 perhaps unwittingly the future I will get the R5 for studio work and the R6 for video. We will see but for now - it’s the EOS R baby. That thing fulfils my needs like a wife that never says no. 😂😂😂😂

[@burritobrosvideos8060]

You can't trade usability for image quality...

[@JohnDrummondPhoto]

I bought an R6 to back up my 5D Mark IV and replace my 7D Mark II (I couldn't afford the R5). No regrets whatsoever. The R6 is phenomenal for both photo and video. Its image quality, by my own direct shot-by-shot comparison of identical compositions and processing, rivals the 5D Mark IV very closely. Similar to your own experience with the R vs R6 as the R shares the 5D Mark IV's sensor, I noticed better low-light performance and shadow recovery in the R6. I have a 16x9 R6 image as my wallpaper on my 28" 2K monitor and I see no reason I couldn't get a quality print at least that size, or larger. I also got a sharp, handheld macro shot with the R6 and 24-105mm F/4L at 1/13 sec thanks to the IBIS. That shot would have been impossible with my other bodies. So, I'm probably going to sell the 7D Mark II. At such point that I can afford an R5 or whatever high-MP body Canon might release, the 5D M4 is a goner too. Kudos, Canon, for finally getting mirrorless right. P.S. - I updated the firmware to v.1.1.1 and have not had any overheating issues shooting 4K/30. That said, I'm in a temperate location and started shooting in September. So now it's autumn and haven't had to deal with summer heat. We'll see how it does next summer, but my short-clip style shouldn't cause problems anyway.

[@rynfilms]

ooh, the 5D4 and the R6 will be a great combo! Glad to hear you're enjoying the camera. I was hoping to get out when it was still 110+ here and see how the camera handled extreme heat. I didn't get it in time. 🤷‍♂️

[@echosierraenroute]

the R was $2300 brand new so saying this isnt a step up is insane... the R6 is a step up in every way besides MP which is a ridiculous debate. larger pixel size (from less MP count) allows less noise and better low light performance... theres a reason the 1DXIII has the same sensor and costs $6500

[@rynfilms]

Was it really $2300 when it came out? I thought it was under $2000. 🤷‍♂️ I just don't feel like the R6 is better enough for me to upgrade to it.

[@xkben90]

@@rynfilms You should test it before making that judgment call. I don't mean that in a derogatory way by the way. I honestly think you will change your mind once you spend 1 day with the R6. It's not just the improved specs; it's the snappiness of the menu system as well. It is 2-3x faster than the EOS R.

[@rynfilms]

@@xkben90 Are you suggesting that I didn't actually use an R6 for this video?

[@xkben90]

@@rynfilms hmm if you did use the R6, I apologize for missing It. I thought the video you made was from a standpoint of what you thought the R6 was instead of actually comparing the two.

[@makestuffmike]

@@rynfilms Yep. Part of the reason people freaked out so hard was how expensive it was in comparison to the a7iii which was only 2k at the time.

[@juanplus3324]

I'm still rocking my 6D. 6D was yesteryears' 5D. After owning several cameras, I realized that there will never be a perfect camera or lens.

[@rynfilms]

That is such a great statement, but I have to say the R5 comes darn close! 🥳

[@ZombieRofl]

Bro the 6D is gold.

[@sonicvboom]

@@ZombieRoflMore gold than the 5D Mark IV? No way... 😳😳

[@ZombieRofl]

@@sonicvboom not in terms of quality, but price/quality yes pretty good if you ask me.

[@ssmith278]

I agree with you. I commented to someone that I would buy an R6 mark 2 if the sensor was bumped up to 25-30 MP. Great video.

[@rynfilms]

A 30MP sensor would make this camera much more appealing.

[@alphaandomega2709]

You can use the “Movie Crop” option in the Menu. The Canon R6 is just a sharper better overall camera. The only issue is overheating as the camera runs warm all the time other than that it’s the perfect camera for most people.

[@rynfilms]

The movie crop is a great feature! It helps give you so much more out of your lenses. I should have mentioned that in this video. 🤷‍♂️

[@stephen1942]

I like the IBIS and the improved auto focus but as an existing R user the reduced mp count is an issue. Trouble is if you want all the improvements and pixels you are looking at an R5 and that comes at a meaningful (unaffordable?) Premium- at least as an amateur.

[@rynfilms]

For what I use cameras for, the R5 is worth the extra money. Maybe not for everyone though.

[@77dris]

I was like you too. However, I recently downloaded sample R, R5, R6 raw files all taken at the same time and I uprezzed all the images to 45 MP in Adobe Camera Raw. I was mostly unable to determine which photo was which in a "blind" comparison. I later tried the ACR "enhance" feature on the R6 files, then output to 45 MP in ACR and more often than not, the R6 files looked better than the native R5 files at 45 MP. That put my resolution fears to rest. Also, the R6's dymamic range is way better, and it has no shadow banding that plagued my R. However, the things I dislike most about the R6 coming from the R is the body. It's a step back to not have the top LCD, and the back LCD on the R6 is smaller and lower resolution. AND, the R6 is a mostly plastic body vs the magnesium alloy of the R. How can a $2000 cdn camera have a much better body (aside from the controls) than a $3200 cdn body?

[@WildHorseProductions]

Love the practical review. I have the R and it's quite the versatile workhouse. It's so underappreciated that its sell for 1300$ new in some grey import sites. It's an absolute steal and doubles as a mini c200 with my Ninja V.

[@rynfilms]

Agreed! I still have my R as my B cam now.

[@vipersrt30]

what sold me to the r6 over the R: -Ibis makes is lenses even more stable (especially RF) -the improvement in AF for moving subjects seems very good + insane burst and literally infinite buffer (with a good card) -slightly better iso for low light with the combo of these little few things i think i will have a slightly higher number of keepers and that's kinda my goal in upgrading. i don't have the R but i was in the market for the R or the R6. the savings on used eos R bodies were very veeeeeery compelling. I still felt like i wanted the new features lol. its not necessarily going to make me more money but, it will make my use of it a little bit more enjoyable. to me that is worth it.

[@rynfilms]

Sounds like this is the perfect camera for your needs. I love it!! I have no doubt you made the right choice in camera. I may have leaned towards the R6 if I didn't already have a camera. 👍

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[@erickmanuel7852]

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[@armanizayne2364]

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[@armanizayne2364]

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[@ghostgums]

You made it sound like the R doesn't have a full frame sensor, when it does... It only crops in during 4k video recording.

[@Narmi804]

I found a really good condition EOS R used for cheap making a bit hard for me to justify the 20mp R6 since I don't shoot 4K anyway (for now). Thanks for the vid, I am glad there's someone still prefer the R over R6.

[@rynfilms]

I'm pretty lukewarm about the R6. It didn't feel like enough of an upgrade. The R5 though.. 🥳🥳🥳🥳

[@jkingimages]

I did the same thing. Bought another R. It just works.

[@rynfilms]

👍

[@makestuffmike]

Thinking of going eos r instead of my a7iii!

[@jkingimages]

@@makestuffmike I am in the camp, if it works for you, save the money. I hear good things about the a7iii. I don't know how much you are invested in Sony. I am heavily invested in the Canon system, so I stayed. Plus, I am primarily stills and very little video. Take one for a test drive.

[@makestuffmike]

@@jkingimages I’m only in with the kit zoom, 50mm 1.8 and that Sigma 35mm 1.4 and a7iii. At this point if I jump ship I just about break even. If I can get an eosr on the cheap for vlogging I might have to do it! How could I say no? Flip screen is essential!

[@Mike0193Azul]

Probably the best comparison out there

[@rynfilms]

Thank you! Glad you like it. 🥳

[@Chazyfizzlez]

Keeping my R. Bought the RF 70-200 instead of upgrading the body. I now have RF 50, RF 85 and RF 70-200. I'll probably add the RF 15-35 before I update my body... Marry the glass, date the body as they say.

[@rynfilms]

I can neither confirm nor deny that I am jealous of your collection of glass. 😆

[@fledguitarplayer43]

Great review! The R feels solid in the hands, the R6 is plastic fantastic

[@parmanduke]

Wow that IBIS on the R6 is pretty amazing. Can get some tack sharp images at much slower shutter speeds. But the R's images are just as good if not better when IBIS doesn't come into play.

[@rynfilms]

It's so hard to tell. Both cameras are capable of creating great images. Each is geared towards different shooters.

[@Businessfinance1349]

True, as long as it suits, it works. I always shoot wide so I'm fine with the crops.

[@libation14221]

Best video on the comparison. No nonsense or 20 minutes of self promotion, just an honest review. I think the R6 is an upgrade for video but since I'm a photo guy, I going with a used R.

[@j9295fc]

I’m in the market for my first full frame camera. I’m torn between the R and R6. Street photography and portraits are my thing. No video at all. Any suggestions??

[@rynfilms]

The R is pretty phenomenal for a photo camera. I’ve had no regrets with it. Plus you can take the money you save and put that into a good lens that will last you way longer than a camera body. 👍

[@healing2gether]

Well said and thanks for the vid, I’m still so happy with my R! Just trying to learn how to shoot more cinematically. Thanks, -Adam The New Woodworker

[@rynfilms]

Right on Adam! What are you building? I just made a bunch of cutting boards for the holiday!

[@JoshuaMcTackett]

I have both. The R6 is easily superior in almost every way. The R is a fine camera anyway and nobody is wrong for having that

[@rynfilms]

Cool! Happy you're enjoying the R6! 😃

[@sonicvboom]

The R6 *is* indeed "superior" in almost every way. Especially in the price-point department 😅😄😂

[@JoshuaMcTackett]

@@sonicvboom can't argue there hahaha

[@usmanmajid7837]

All of these Canon R, R5, R6 videos really bring a tear to my eye while I sit here with my old ass Canon 70D lol! Deciding whether to upgrade to the R or just wait it out a little bit more and go for something like the R6. I agree, if I had the R already then the upgrade to R6 probably wouldn't be worth it. But coming from a 70D I wanna get the most bang for my buck!

[@rynfilms]

The R6 would be a big upgrade for you! I was looking at it as an upgrade from the R. For me it's not worth it, for other types of shooters it might be. You're not going to go wrong with either one. Your call! 👍

[@usmanmajid7837]

@@rynfilms Thanks, agreed! I'm just a little reserved at the moment as the overheating concerns for both the R6 & R5 are holding me back. If firmware updates do indeed introduce ALL-I and/or fix those problems, it'll probably be an amazing upgrade!

[@BryansDuc]

Having the same issue as you mate! Still can't decide between the R and R6. I come from a 77D.

[@usmanmajid7837]

@@BryansDuc I think either of those options will be amazing upgrades for us. My thoughts are, 'Why go for the EOS R when I can pay a bit more and get 4K with barely any crop, better dynamic range, etc, etc..... but the DANG OVERHEATING!"

[@iamelbert1423]

@@usmanmajid7837 you don't have to worry much about it. The issue is largely overblown

[@nkosiakinlabi3135]

Even though there’s a difference in the megapixels, the R6 has the same sensor as the canon 1 DX mark 3 whereas the R has the same sensor as the canon 5 D mark iv

[@andrewdoeshair]

I owned an R and borrowed an R5 for a few weeks, then the ONE AND ONLY thing that made me want to get an R5 or R6 (likely R6) is the ability to preset different focusing modes to different back buttons. As simple as that!!! Like, hold AF ON and it’ll track in servo, then hold * and it’ll lock focus onto a single center point in one shot. Changing focus modes in the R and RP is infuriating- the R requiring a “check and change” (meaning, just like how the pushbutton lock feels the same while locking and unlocking so you have to check it instead of just using muscle memory to know) to get different focusing modes, and the RP requires a full menu dive... However, when I sold my RP I didn’t buy an R5 or R6, I bought a second R. Partially because I haven’t made any money since covid came around, but mostly because I am one of the rare fans of the 4K crop. But some day, when the R6 is cheaper, I’m going to “upgrade” to it, and ONLY for that stupid tiny little preset focus mode situation. End rant 😂

[@rynfilms]

If that feature is the thing that sold you on it, there is nothing wrong with that! I've bought many things just because it does one thing better and it made it worth it for me. Hope you get some work soon Andrew!

[@BLEEJazz]

Wish R6 was 25 or 30 mps. I am keeping my R. I agree that R6 is an upgrade but if I sell my R and buy brand new R6, I have to pay another 1800 CAD after the tax. I rather use that money towards another RF glass.

[@rynfilms]

Save a little more and go for the R5! 🥳

[@PanzerIV88]

@@rynfilms Well, the R5 at least in Canada other than major availability issues is more like "A lot more!" rater than a little more ^^

[@ericgauthier2665]

Got the R and still love it...with some tamron sp...it good to be stabilize 📷🎯

[@rynfilms]

Nice!

[@braydonwest1286]

Bro you killed this video! Good job! Great comparison 🙌🏽🙌🏽 thank you!!

[@rynfilms]

Thanks Braydon! 🥳

[@johnjr47]

Great review, Mr. Ryan, I have the R i LOVE it !!!!

[@rynfilms]

Thanks John! 👍

[@tennismaster6640]

@@rynfilms eos r or nikon z6 ii for beginner who wants great camera

[@pernamore1978]

Okay, I'm getting the R.

[@rynfilms]

Nice! 👍

[@CrimeTVro]

Thx man ! This video helped me a lot in my decision to buy a new canon camera for studio production. I mention that at the moment I use Canon M50 in 4k format so a Canon R will be a pretty big step I think ... Big like from me man THX !

[@rynfilms]

Nice! The M50 will make a great B cam. I was pretty impressed with that camera.

[@jules.bianchi]

thank you for this! Can't wait to see what you say about the R5.

[@rynfilms]

The R5 is amazing. 🥳🥳 Videos coming soon. Thanks Jules!

[@chaladpuntprai3259]

thank you for your opinion

[@rynfilms]

You're welcome!

[@Captblunderbuss]

I'm still loving the R. I never really saw the R6 as a logical upgrade path, but haven't gotten to use one, so thank you for the comparison. Slowly saving for an R5. Just have to avoid pulling the trigger on the RF85mm 1.2 or I'll never get there. 🤣

[@rynfilms]

I'm really looking forward to testing out the R5. So many upgrades on that body! I've heard good things about the 85 as well. 😆

[@sonicvboom]

Well, if you are coming from an R, then the R6 would not be a logical "up-grade" for you. But if you come from say an APS-C DSLR (Ie: 60D, or even the 6D), then I'd say the R6 for sure will blow you away. 😚😚

[@JaredRibic]

Surprised you didn't get into the improved autofocus and the dual card slots of the R6. But those may not matter as much if you shoot video more than photos.

[@rynfilms]

The autofocus is definitely an upgrade, It's been wonderful on both the R6 and the R5. Not really much to say about the dual card slots. Although it is nice to be able to record photos to one and video to the other.

[@JaredRibic]

@@rynfilms - I do wish Canon would allow us to record video to both cards. That has always bothered me. I mainly shoot stills and find it odd that video doesn't also go to both cards.

[@Samson1]

The R's crop in 4K makes it effectively Super35. Some will love it, I'm sure. Somewhere...

Very good review, thank you!

[@rynfilms]

Thank you!

[@Roar.]

I didn't think the R6 was worth a €1000 more than the R, especially as I do mostly photo. I prefer putting that in a lens.

[@rynfilms]

I'm not going to disagree with that. 👍

[@cameraboy1983]

Thinking about getting the R as a B-cam to pair with my 5D MK4 for filmmaking. Do you think that’s a good pair for video?

[@rynfilms]

Sorry for the late response on these. They do pair nicely, but I found the R to have a lot less noise than the MK4. So keep that in mind. 👍

[@cameraboy1983]

​@@rynfilms No worries. Thanks for the reply. I decided to get the R to pair with my MK4, and you are right the image is better on the R. Thxs

[@shazbk7616]

Another great review! I am keeping my R its been good to me!

[@rynfilms]

Awesome! 👊

[@AmandaWoolsey]

Man I was ready to upgrade to the R6 till I saw this video. Have you tested the R5? I’m only halfway through incase you mention it later on

[@rynfilms]

Hey Amanda, I LOVE my R5! I've done a few other videos on it. 👍

[@kwameryan]

Hey Ryan! I literally took delivery of my new R this morning and haven't even unboxed it yet! After agonizing for weeks I made the exact same decision you did, not least for the possibility of having two R's to use for multicam shoots like you did. So many R's on the used market now. Anyway, super helpful vid, and no need to hate watch lol... 😊

[@rynfilms]

🥳 I think for most the R is more value for the money. Enjoy the new camera!

[@MrDamoHutchinson]

I was looking at the Sony A7iii then came across the Canon R6 and thought wow! But then heard about the plastic body vs magnesium alloy 😂😭 back to the drawing board

[@danielbranam8503]

Nice video. I have the R as well and it is a great B camera to my C200. It also takes great pictures. Smart move getting the second R. Happy shooting.

[@rynfilms]

Thanks Daniel! I keep toying with the idea of getting something out of the C line. But then I remember how portable I like to keep my gear. 😆

[@oceanview418]

love the information and how detailed you are. So if you don't have the R and I'm switching from crop sensor to full frame do you recommend the R, R6, or the 6d ii? A good video also would be a comparison between the R and the 6d and or 6d ii because the 6d is budget friendly for most shooters. Im in that group myself as in not sure which route to go?

[@rynfilms]

Honestly, I've never used the 6D so I can't say for sure. Find the camera with the most features you'll actually use and go for that. You can also rent a few different bodies and see what you like best. It's not the cheapest way to go, but it's a great way to try different cameras. Good luck!

[@DazLeOneink]

You refer to the crop on the R vs the R6 full frame. I thought they were both full frames.... from what I understood, there was only a crop when using an APSC lens and when shooting in 4K. You were shooting still, so I’m confused. Please help.

[@walterplayz]

The eos r has a crop when shooting in 4k where the eos r6 does not.

[@rynfilms]

What Walter said. Only cropped in 4K. Both are full frame when shooting photos.

[@JoseLausuch]

You remark always the full frame on the R6. But is the R cropping for photos as well or only for 4K video?

[@rynfilms]

The R does not crop for photos, just 4K video.

[@PLAYFOOT2]

was this shot in 1080p full frame and uploaded as a 4k or was it shot in 4k cropped? and what lenses were you using in both of them?

[@rynfilms]

Nope, shot and uploaded in 4K. Most likely I was using my Canon 24-70, it's my go to lens for testing.

[@sophisticatedcountry2929]

Are the batteries interchangeable?

[@rynfilms]

Yes, I think the only one in this family that didn't use the LP-E6 style battery is the RP.

[@BenMartin101]

Hmm you can use crop mode in the R6 tho

[@rynfilms]

I learned that after I made this video. 😆

[@chrisserino9757]

Hi and thank you for the review! We film weddings in 1080/24 in a natural picture profile (not c-log) and don't heavily grade the footage with 5dkiv's. Would the R be a nice compliment to the 5div? same low light performance? better autofocus? Thanks!

[@jaytsun8873]

5d mark iv and Eos R would have very similar low light performance since they are roughly the same sensor. Auto focus is much better on the Eos R

[@rynfilms]

I agree with Jay, the auto focus on the R is much better. Also, the video on the R is much better than the video coming out of the 5D Mark IV. I ditched my 5D quickly after getting the R.

[@ppanahoff2613]

You did a very good job. Congratulations! I mostly or only do photography. I currently own a 90D machine. I guess I can't taste the pictures because of the aps-c sensor, I'm not satisfied. I especially love portraits. In this case, can you please tell me which machine makes more sense to buy. This will be my last camera replacement so I don't want to make any mistakes. Please help me. R or R6?

[@rynfilms]

My gut response it to say go with the R and spend the money you save for a really good portrait lens. But it's your money and you should spend it however you want. Good luck!

[@ppanahoff2613]

@@rynfilms Thank you very much🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@milestonowhere]

thank you for the share. I wonder if the crop situation is only for movie selection or photography too..

[@rynfilms]

The crop is only on the R for video.

[@milestonowhere]

@@rynfilms thank you!

[@cartographycards]

Now im stuck on EOS R vs EOS R6 II, dang.

[@DesignYourLifeTips]

RP vs R > the difference not worth a thousand dollar to upgrade R vs R6 > the difference not worth a thousand dollar to upgrade R6 vs R3 >… I can see what Cannon is expecting from the market... 😎 Love your comparison, clear and straight to the point 👍

[@sonicvboom]

Looks like you figured out Canon's marketing strat 😉😉

[@sonicvboom]

So what is Canon expecting from the market...? You never did really answer your own question 😏😏

[@oamyway975]

👍👍 Excellent explaination

[@rynfilms]

Thanks!

[@jhogan54321]

I have a caveat. The camera as a photgraphic tool is phenomenal, truly, but I have a serious issue in video (NOT the overheating issue). The videos on the back of the camera are great, but once downloaded (to Windows 10 64 bit) the CODEC seems to be incompatible with most software. There is no "load and play" system such as with the 5D Mk IV. I simply cannot find a way other than buying or renting Da Vinci Resolve or Premier Pro to see the videos I create. I am not interested in editing the files, all I need to do is to find some way to convert them to watch and share. I have no idea what to do.

[@rynfilms]

Sounds like this may be more cameras than what you need. There is a free version of da Vinci that you should be able to convert your files in. What settings are you using to record video? You may want to try recording in a smaller quality and see if playback is better.

[@jhogan54321]

@@rynfilms hi. Thanks so much for replying. The camera, answers all my needs as a photographer. The video problem is ancillary as I use video seldom. Partly I have always felt that the combination as both photographic and video tool would fall out of tandem at some point. However, I see this current problem as an anomaly. As a, photographer I can shoot RAW or Jpeg or RAW as well as Jpeg and see with or both products. The camera allows the user to produce the image without need for conversion. Why could Canon not make that possible in video? I don't shoot in Jpeg, but I have the option. Re conversion. Canon answered my query in an extremely obtuse way and I was surprised they weren't particularly helpful... I am still trying to find a solution. So far one person has informed me that I should convert to Pro Res and edit in Premier Pro. The problem is that I would still need to pat a subscription in order to convert. I cannot justify paying for a video editing suit for the amount of video I do. All I want is to be able to convert my output so that I can see it as I do on the back of the camera. The files I am creating are 1080 50ffps. Nothing spectacular.

[@rynfilms]

@@jhogan54321 Have you looked to see if there is a free transcoding software you can download? with the files from the R5 and R6 I have been transcoding to ProRes and editing in Premiere, just as you said was recommended. I can see why you don't want to do that. If I were you, I'd take a look and see if you can find a program to convert to a more friendly CODEC for your computer. I know it's not the ideal situation, but it might be what you have to do for the video files from your new camera.

[@jhogan54321]

@@rynfilms Thanks for the comment. That's my aim at present at least as a stop-gap. However, I really don't know much about programs outside of the photographic sphere so I don't know whaere to start. There is a program called Acrok Video Converter which I am going to test out. It has a limited trial versio and the program costs €50. Fingers crossed. I m not sure what output I would have to aim at.... but it's all part of life's rich tapestry I suppose ;-) If you have any suggestions I would love to know in which direction you could point me. By the way, I am extremely appreciative of you taking the time to answer and try to guide me. I have been posting queries for weeks on various forums and just you and one other person have taken the time and trouble to offer your assistance. Canon, as I mentioned earlier, was strangely obtuse in their reply.

[@rynfilms]

@@jhogan54321 no worries, happy to help. Maybe check out a program called Handbrake, which is a free download. I've used it in the past for various tasks. For the most part I use Adobe Media Encoder, but that comes with my Adobe subscription.

[@m77ast]

I am with you bro. Studio work. My friend got the r6 - I went with the R arrived two days ago. Did my first video on it and that thing was hunting down my eye like an eagle hunting down a gazelle. To say I love the r would be an understatement. It makes my 5d iii feel like it’s from the stone age. 😂😂😂😂

[@rynfilms]

It's a HUGE upgrade from the 5D3. Enjoy!

[@sonicvboom]

Wait till you try the R6. It'll make your "R" look like a Honda Civic on an F1 race-track 😂😂😂

[@m77ast]

@@sonicvboom I doubt that Very much. Give me one example of what the R6 has over the R - esp in photography.

[@sonicvboom]

@@m77astIBIS

[@m77ast]

@@sonicvboom I have a tripod for photos, a monopod and gimbal for video. This will enhance handheld videos and offer freedom but I prefer 30 mega pixels.

[@Guironey]

thxxxx

[@AcidicDelusion]

I can't believe the custom buttons can't be used to store video settings on the r6. That is just dirty from canon

[@rynfilms]

So I've heard. I never tried to set the custom buttons on this body.

[@perry8517]

Really love your videos. One question, How do you compare the image quality of 30 Megapixel on eos r versus 20 Megapixel on the R6? Any noticeable difference? Is that gonna be a downgrade? Thx.

[@rynfilms]

Thanks! For most people, the 20MP will probably be enough. As I mentioned in the video, You're really going to notice the difference if you're working on very fine details in post production. Or if you're doing extreme cropping. The R6 is a great camera, it's just not a great camera for what I need.

[@cutandshootentertainment4514]

I love my R when it’s time for me to upgrade. This will be my B camera. I do videos and photography. And I’m thinking C-70. Anyone have thoughts in this deep free to comment.

[@rynfilms]

I've heard some really great things about the C70, haven't used one yet though. 🤷‍♂️

[@cutandshootentertainment4514]

@@rynfilms thanks for responding more importantly for your honesty

[@sonicvboom]

C70 is light, portable, has eye-detect and it doesn't over-heat. It works seam-lessly with Canon's new RF lenses (unlike the C200 etc.) Professionals usually utilize the C70 as a B/ C cam though... One asterisk: It has a cropped sensor.

[@cutandshootentertainment4514]

@@sonicvboom AND NOW THE R3 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@sonicvboom]

@@cutandshootentertainment4514Oooo... The *R3* 😍😍🤤🤤

[@satishchilakamarri]

sir i need your advice in buying cameras we were looking to upgrade from mid range camera to full frame with in the budget for studio, wedding and other short videos... even though we use shoot both photos and video mostly , a little higher preference for quality photos. one of our senior suggested us to go for mirrorless in canon or sony both for video and photo shoot.. when i compared the difference inbetween 5D mark -iv, eos R and eos R5... mainly i observed that the number of focus points varies from camera to camera... where eos R have 5655 focus points 5D mark -vi have 61 focus points and eos R5 have 1053 focus points I dont know how far having more focus points plays key role irrespective of having 15 mega pixel lesser than eos R5 After watching your video is it right to got for eos R rather than going to eos R6 or eos R6 or need to look at Sony a7R IV pls give us your valuable opinion which can help us ...

[@rynfilms]

I am a huge fan of the EOS R. I've used the Sony A7R4 in the past. Many people love and get great results from the Sony, I'm not one of them. As far as the focus points on the 5D4 and the R, it's a huge difference on paper AND in real world use. The R blows the 5D4 out of the water with AF and focus points. Don't put too much thought into the extra 15MP on the R5, the 30MP on the R is plenty. 👍 Did I mention I'm a huge fan of the R? 😆

[@nivin3]

Hey I do a lot of Jpegs especially personal family stuff. And I tested out R6 and really loved the skin tones...it was magical. Do you think ‘R’ has the same Jpegs sooc as R6? Like the skin tones, colors etc...I don’t do videos

[@rynfilms]

I would assume the color science would be very similar on both. Probably a little better on the R6 since it's a newer camera. I always shoot in RAW, so I can't say 100%.

[@sonicvboom]

The R surprisingly produces *better* skin tone than the R6. There have been quite a few reports of the R6 having a "yellow-ish" hue issue. But if I am not mistaken, that has been fixed by a recent firm-ware update. *The R uses the same sensor as the 5D Mark IV; The R6 uses the same sensor as the 1Dx Mark III.

[@mikethames3072]

Great review. If you want time lapse on the R try Cascable. Works great on iPhone with M50. I bet it works great with R. Sorry if I’m like 1 of 400 others who said this same thing. 🤪

[@rynfilms]

No way, you're the first to mention it. I have not heard of it before. Thank you! 👍

[@mikethames3072]

@@rynfilms cool. You may have to do an update review.

[@RichieColemanSr]

I'm coming from a Canon 90D, and I ordered the R6 Mark II. After watching this, I'm 2nd guessing myself and wondering if I should order 2 EOS R's so I'll have a 2nd camera, and just build my lens collection. Any suggestions?

[@ElBoyoElectronico]

I already own the R6 and recenctly sold my Canon M50 and all my EF-M lenses. Now I am thinking of using this money to purchase the R as a b cam or if I should also sell my R6 and upgrade to a R5 as my only cam... Hard decision. Would love to hear your opinion! Great video

[@ElBoyoElectronico]

Oh, I forget to mention: I shot mostly for KZbin channels and some corporate jobs (interviews, training videos, etc.). Aaand I have the Ninja Atomos V. That means I could shoot 10bit internal on the R6 and 10bit external on the Canon R with the Ninja....

[@esoxhu]

Awesome, practical review. This is one of the video that told me not to change my R to R6 because it's nicer, newer, have IBIS and better AF, even 2.5 yrs later when this video mage. I'm not shooting videos, not shooting sports that needs quicker shutter, so I think I'm also staying with the R.

[@ironian24]

I just add an intervelometre to my R for astro cost is a mere £20 so not really an issue.

[@rynfilms]

I have to say it is nice to have it built into the camera and not have to carry a next you're piece of gear. 🤷‍♂️

[@ironian24]

@@rynfilms yep I get that but it is not a deal breaker, the older DSLR never had this inbuilt so It really is not an issue to me personally. We want more and more and more and sometimes we forget that it is about the art of photography not the art of the equipment, If you cannot take a photo with what you have new gear and cameras are not the answer, understand the art first. As a photographer I have the gear I have and take great images with it, I do not have huge amounts of gear because I don't need it.

[@SretloW]

Nice review Ryan! What was your setting with the R when you use a gimbal? I still love to work with my Canon R, it’s works for me also good! Don’t want a other camera in this moment!

[@rynfilms]

I don't remember settings on the gimbal shot. I actually shot that bit of footage a while back. Pretty sure I was shooting 4K 24, most likely ISO 400 CLOG. I'm still working on the R5 videos. 🥳

[@andrewphoto4750]

what if i still have the T7i

[@jasonlorphotofilms]

I think the only reasons I would upgrade to the R6 is Uncropped 4k video Dual SD Card slot IBIS For me that's not enough for me to pay $800 more to upgrade from what I paid for my Canon EOS-R. Not to mention for lower megapixels too.

[@rynfilms]

That's the perfect way to think about upgrading!

[@victorcotto6699]

I respect your opinion and pose a question about these two cameras, and my debate about a purchase: 1. I am not a pro, and I'm looking for a travel camera, one to casually take pics when I'm in NYC, to take pics for promotional Yoga material (I'm a teacher), and I would describe myself as a entry level shooter who is ONLY interested in taking high quality STILLS. Have no interest in video features. 2. My interests in photo taking; travel such as landscape, portraits, street photography, Yoga promo materials, long exposed shots, nighttime cool shots and that's about it. 3. Money isn't necessarily an issue, but I can obviously benefit by purchasing a EOS R and a RF lens such as 24-70, and it'll be same cost as just the Eos R5 body. WILL I be happy 2-3 years from now if I buy the EOS R, get a lens, and save $ and will I be happy with the image quality and output? Or, should I just wait, save and just head first into the r5? I would love your insight.

[@SirMopy]

Yes. Get the R and save some money. For your needs it is perfect.

[@rynfilms]

The R is a phenomenal photo camera! The R5 is pretty freaking great too, but from what you’re describing, it sounds like you’ll be better spending your money on the R and a good lens. The lens is going to make more of a difference anyway.

[@sonicvboom]

If I may interject, you won't be happy three years from now if you pick up the R. But you'll be happy *now* though cause you saved some money. The R was already obsolete when it first came out back in 2017/ 2018. It was *already* behind its competitors (Ie: Sony). Based on what you shoot (and if price is not a big factor for you), I feel like the R6 may be a better fit for you in the long run. A) due to it's low-light capabilities, and B) IBIS. Again, this is just my two-cents. 😉😉

[@victorcotto6699]

@@sonicvboom I purchased the r6 already.

[@themanfromcyprus]

R6 is an upgrade for the RP, not for R. So it's rather a switch, not an upgrade. Still the R6 has less compromises, but lacking specs found on R.

[@rynfilms]

It really depends on what you need in a camera. For some, the R6 is an upgrade. Sounds like for you and me, it is not.

[@themanfromcyprus]

@@rynfilms the R5 looks pretty hot though 🔥 😅

[@maggyfish]

Thought the eos r was full frame

[@Jimmyageek]

Great

[@rynfilms]

Thanks Jimmy. 👍

[@danielacm7123]

@RYN FILMS Hello!, at this moment, if you didn´t have any camera and you have the money to buy the R6 or the R ... considerating your experience and knowing all the problems of the r6 regarding the overheating, the sensor missaligned etc... what camera should you buy?? the R or the R6??? Thank you in advance :)

[@Jwick1518]

I think the answer to your smaller megapixels are the AA filters.

[@rynfilms]

I'll have to learn more about AA filters. 🤷‍♂️

[@ubesaaa]

I can get an r for €900 or I can get an r6 for €1670. What would be worth it?

[@rynfilms]

Best to get the camera that fits your needs better. There will be some regret either way (EG, I spent too much vs I should have spent more for the features I wanted). Just figure out what camera works for you and go for it!

[@ubesaaa]

@@rynfilms got the Eos r for 800, will trade it in if a good deal on an r6 comes in (€1100 - 1200)

[@nigelwest3430]

Not sure how you can describe moving from R to R6 as an upgrade !!

[@rynfilms]

It's an upgrade in some ways and it downgrade and others. Depending on what kind of work you do, it could go either way.

[@PromoMoviescomau]

Thanks for the video Ryn. I'm still trying to justify the R6 to add to my R and M62... Mainly for the 4K 60. But like you, I'm not convinced, especially due to the very high price tag here in Australia. I recently purchased the Metabones EOSR speed booster - which is fantastic for giving you some wider end flexibility, with the extra step of light also coming in handy. Since I still run some EF L glass, it's been the best accessory I've purchased. So really the only thing I am missing is that 4K 60 (which I admit would be great). But after using the the R for quite a while now, it is a solid, reliable workhorse.

[@rynfilms]

You can always shoot 1080 @ 60fps and upscale. Much cheaper than upgrading to the R6. 👍

[@jrc1156]

@@rynfilms is there any noticeable loss of quality when you upscale the 1080p to 4k footage from the eos r?

[@rakeshbalhara]

Also R look pro, while R6 look cheaper.. imho

[@rynfilms]

The camera itself or the images?

[@sonicvboom]

@@rynfilms You caught him stuttering 😅😄😂

[@SerenityStar3000]

This is realy funny. I ordered the R6. I wanted it so bad and saved money to finaly buy it. I gave it an deep test made comparisions with differnent scenarios and returned it. I think the R is massivly underrated and the R6 massivly overhyped. The differences are sometimes so minor. IBIS is nice but also not that live saver feature. The DualPixel AF2 ist not that gigantic step forward and i still can't 100% trust on it. So i end up shooting in single point af again like i did with the R. Video is the biggest difference but since video is not that important for me its just not worth the price difference. So there where 2 features that i realy miss on the R that the R6 has. Focus Stacking and 120p fullhd in CLOG. But that is not worth the 1200€ Price Difference for me. So i loved my R from the beginning and i will skip the current generation and save the money. The R is still a fantastic camera.

[@photo818]

Great video in comparing the two. Question? I have the R and my issue I have is with OCF. I use the Godox and Flashpoint system with trigger and my ISO jumps constantly. I can set it at 100 or 200 or 400 and after taking a shot it will jump to 1600 or 3200. It’s frustrating to constantly keep adjusting the ISO during a photoshoot. I shoot both in studio and on location. Do you or other R owners here have this issue?

[@rynfilms]

Dumb question, What is OCF? I can't say I ever have that problem and I use my R in studio all the time. I use Pocket Wizards to trigger my lights. Can't say I've ever used Flashpoint.

[@photo818]

@@rynfilms OCF is Off Camera Flash, I think I will call Canon and ask this question about my ISO jumping. I’ve used pocketwizards in the past but not with the mirrorless system

[@Lexgotti]

I love my R, she sleep right next to me on 😍😌

[@rynfilms]

😆

[@khoinguyen8765]

Eos R is a full frame tho

[@rynfilms]

Not for video, It uses a 1.7ish crop.

[@PanzerIV88]

The only Cons it has is the 20MP being the bare minimum and kinda limiting as of today's standard, mostly when u zoom in on a 4K monitor and while it is enough if you don't crop, I get that you are more limited if you do crop a lot. Coming from a 6D mk1 it is a huge night and day difference and anyway I was already at 20MP so I didn't feel the "downgrade" but I can understand the bitter taste coming from a 30MP R camera. The only reason Canon did that is otherwise it would have killed the sales of their overpriced R5 so they didn't want to shoot themselves in the foot but I still think it could have been 24-30 instead of 20. Paid 3500$CAD for mine before 15% taxes but big deal for taxes as I get them back with the company and since I sold my 6D for 850$, it was like a 2650$ upgrade which is STILL not cheap... but once you try it you completely forget about it's price within the first 2 shootings you do. The "RF 70-200 F2.8" i bought along at 3400$ wasn't cheap either but I've never used a lens that sharp, stable and quick. It's just perfect, way better than my super old "EF 70-200 F4 IS MK1" and since Canon remains the king of the 70-200 category... I went for it but tomorrow I'll pick a "Tamron 24-70 F2.8" on sale at 1500$ cause no way the Canon RF version is worth exactly TWICE the price for little to no difference quality wise. One upgrade that's so underrated is the monitor as well as a X-Rite colorimeter. I see so many photographers using sh*tty screens under 27in, TN panels instead of IPS/VA, 8bit instead of 10bit, 1080p instead of 1440p or 4K, etc! That was another game changer when I got myself a (LG Ultragear 27GN950) few weeks ago for my editing, plus it's also the best gaming monitor out there at the same time ^^ hence the price though.

[@rynfilms]

Yeah, I guess it all depends on where you're coming from. I've used to that RF 70-200 In the past and it is an amazing lens. A good 24 - 70 and maybe a wide-angle lens and you'll be set!

[@sonicvboom]

But if you get the Tamron F2.8 24-70mm, don't you need an adaptor for it? Doesn't that kinda ruin the whole point of having an *RF* lens due to the draw distance between the lens and the sensor (hence getting much sharper images)? Also, why is every one so obsessed with the F2.8 24-70 focal length? Is it all because of the wider aperture/ lower light capability? What's wrong with the 24-105mm? I've been told Canon's RF F4 produces sharper images. Paired with R6, the cranked ISO won't even flinch.

[@PanzerIV88]

@@sonicvboom Yes it will require an adaptor but it doesn't reduces at all the picture sharpness and I can attest it after 11 months of having my R6. There is still no 24-70 F2.8 for RF other than the way overpriced Canon that's 2x the price of Tamron and at most I could say what... +10% sharper? The Tamron 2nd gen is a very recent design that came out just before the RF system so the only downside is it's bigger heavier and the adaptor adds an extra inch of length, that's all. I would take any day F2.8 instead of F4 to just loose 35mm at the far end. It's also more useful to me as I have that 24-70 but then I can switch to the RF 70-200mm from Canon. Super expensive but there's nothing similar, it's way ahead of any 70-200 in the market otherwise I would have taken a 2x less expensive side option. I then took the Samyang 85mm F1.4 which is a beast, a real just have for portraits! Once you try F2.8 you never want to go back to F4 or variable aperture. I used t9 have a old 70-200mm F4 from Canon, it's night and day difference! The bokeh is way better and yes the extra light "speed and lower ISO" also helps but it's mostly for that bokeh first. Sûre it's less important for landscape but mind you a F2.8 lens stopped down to F4 will be sharper and have less vigneting than F4 at F4 if you see what I mean.

[@sonicvboom]

@@PanzerIV88 10% sharper is a lot, lol... The extra weight of the heavier lens (especially the F2.8 70-200mm), plus the portruding 1.4 inch adapter...? If one shoots professionally, hmmm, I'm thinking diminishing returns.

[@sonicvboom]

@@PanzerIV88 For the record, I have owned F2.8 lenses all my life. EF L-series 16-35, and 70-200. I just find them too expensive and too darn heavy for that extra stop of light 😅😅. Wondered if I could try out some F4's instead when I move on to RF lenses 😛😛

[@rtisticshotz9879]

Nobody in any comparison fails to mention that they are six even though it has 20 megapixels, the AA filter has been canceled in it. Giving it better image reproduction. Why in all the comparisons there’s nobody who mentions this.

[@krranjit]

For landscape I prefer r than r6...

[@rynfilms]

You should try the R5!

[@lsikharulidze]

EOS R super camera 👌

[@rynfilms]

I cannot argue with you.😆

[@vividstudio4651]

The R6 drove me crazy. Like working with a genius with a multiple personality disorder. It is a brilliant camera but the old canon menu system is just not up to the job any more, that’s the disorder. There is no discernible logic to the button and dial layout so swapping between modes or stills and video can totally scramble the controls - that’s the multiple personalities. For someone using it everyday doing the same type of work I'm sure it can be a great fit. Me, I swap shooting styles a lot with different ways of holding the camera which meant tripping buttons and losing control mid shoot. I never felt at one with this machine. Often, video not recorded cos the Red record signal is poorly placed. IBIS destroying pans. Stupid technical gotchas when shooting video that really shouldn't rely on you having a flow chart in your head. I sold it. The R looks like just the machine for me.

[@RsShortVids]

Yeah just get a wider lens for the crop factor XD. Also id pick the R6 if it was under $2000.

[@rynfilms]

If it was under $2k, I'd probably own one right now.

[@haroot6600]

So i wasn't the only one. Got a new subscriber sir

[@rynfilms]

Appreciate it!

[@Stefan1968ful]

For my wildlife work both the R5 and R5 and especially the R5 are revolutionary. With the R, I am sorry to say, I felt like having no autofocus, it’s simply that bad especially with fast moving subjects.

[@rynfilms]

For wildlife, the new bodies are probably much better than the R. I didn't get to test much in that realm.

[@sonicvboom]

I've been told that even in editorial shoots, the R misses as high as 30% of the "locked-on" shots when the subject is moving. The R6 is definitely *superior* in its eye-detect/ auto-focus capabilities.

[@boabrahamsen9442]

R is not a crop sensor camera you know.

[@rynfilms]

It is not, but when it comes to shooting video, it acts like one. 🤷‍♂️

[@afrank3029]

20 Mp let's be honest even if ut looks good you just cant crop ...24 at least !

[@rynfilms]

It can be a little limiting.