Canon EOS R5 Image Quality vs R6, R, 5D Mk IV, 5DS-R & Sony a7R IV

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Tony Northrup tests the Canon EOS R5’s (sdp.io/R5) image quality, including high ISO/low-light noise, dynamic range, banding (especially with the electronic shutter) and sharpness. He compares it against the Canon EOS R6 (sdp.io/R6), the Canon 5DS-R (sdp.io/5dsr), the Canon 5D Mk IV (sdp.io/5d4), the Canon EOS R (sdp.io/eosr) and the Sony a7R IV (sdp.io/a7r4).

[@TonyAndChelsea]

PLEASE READ: I misspoke and said the R5 has 10 FPS with the mechanical shutter. The specs show it has 12; that's a theoretical maximum when it's not tracking autofocus. In our testing with the RF 70-200 tracking continuous AF for sports, it captured 8 FPS max. With our 500mm f/4 EF lens tracking AF, it captured 5 FPS. Note at 11:52 I accidentally showed the wrong image for the R5 (it's at f/8 instead of f/2.8) but comparing the f/2.8 images side-by-side it's still all the same conclusions.

[@neil454]

Thanks for the clarification. I'm interested in seeing the IQ tests for the A7S III

[@fabianfeldmann4500]

Check my comment for maybe two other mismatched comparisons: Error at 9:57 and 10:17: 5DS-R apparently had 2/3rd of a stop less light than the R5, so the comparison of low light and dynamic range might be invalid. Please check: 5DS-R is at 1/1600 at f2.8 and the R5 at 1/125 f8.0, both iso 6400. f2.8 to f8.0 are 3 stops of difference, but 3 stops difference from 1/125th would be 1/1000th. The 5DS-R had 1/1600 and therefore 2/3rd of a stop less light than the R5. Although, I don't understand why they appear to have the same captured brightness, if the exposure has not been raised in lightroom, but my math seems to be correct?

[@vbrvideoproductions4643]

Thank you Tony, appreciate the additional info on FPS when Tracking, keep up the fantastic work.

[@credos97]

Please SAY THE BURSTS NUMBERS ARE BULLSHIT IN AF-C in your future videos :) are the 20 FPS real in AF-C ? Thank you Tony :)

[@NABR62]

No worries Tony, I’m not holding it against you. It was a great comparison as I shoot with the EOS R and have pondered upgrading. I’ve really liked my EOS R and have had no issues with it.

[@imranshah4316]

Finally a comparison for photographer. Most reviewer only focus on video.

[@ronnelquino8335]

exactly!.

[@chriscunningham1985]

@SwitchRich the cameras have started to be delivered to those who pre-ordered, there's unboxing videos out there now

[@robertdittmer2743]

Very true! I can't hear anything about overheating anymore, knowing I would rarely (if at all) use the video feature...

[@idontwantacallsign]

But it's flawed with some errors

[@thatcreole9913]

Yes!

[@arildhagen3820]

The sharpness comparing between R6 and R5. The R6 image was shot with f/2.8 and the R5 at F/8.0 for the comparing.

[@ChuckinAurora]

This is the comparison video I've been waiting for. Thanks for making it.

[@TonyAndChelsea]

You're welcome!

[@ScottVincentPhotos]

Nice review - Thanks so much for getting these out so quickly - Very helpful!!

[@davepercy4953]

Excellent review, would love to hear similar comments on the R6 versus the R.

[@marcelrothmund2447]

Thank you Tony, most appreciated! I like your reviews!

[@Altitude2011]

Hi Tony, it would be interesting to compare the image quality of the Canon R5 to the image quality of the Nikon D850 or the Nikon Z7.

[@markhathaway4816]

Tony, I have not looked at the comments to your videos before today, when I looked at them to see your pinned comment to your video about noise not being caused by high ISO. As an aspiring photographer who enjoys learning about the technical (what you refer to as the nerdy) aspects, I very much value your teaching videos. I see that you receive many comments of a less appreciative nature, but since you march on with the teaching I trust that you are giving such comments the treatment they deserve, which would be to ignore them. Thank you for providing me with a trusted source of information and inspiration, and I hope you are rightfully rewarded for what you do.

[@ttight11]

Can't wait for the rest of the review and comparison!

[@harleyxl2001]

I am really happy to see this, although I did have to check the calendar to make sure it wasn't April 1st. I am looking forward to your R5 testing video, while I understand your point of the shadow recovery, it would be more realistic to see it in a real world type scenario instead of a gross over exposure of the image. Hopefully you will do a landscape photo and correctly recover the shadows as you would in a real photo. I have no interest in the video capabilities of this camera (in fact I wish they offered a version without video). From this review and the other video you did, this looks like a winner to me. Now if they would just be available for purchase somewhere.

[@fabianfeldmann4500]

Thanks for your great work. I think there is an error at 9:57 and 10:17: 5DS-R apparently had 2/3rd of a stop less light than the R5, so the comparison of low light and dynamic range might be invalid. Please check: 5DS-R is at 1/1600 at f2.8 and the R5 at 1/125 f8.0, both iso 6400. f2.8 to f8.0 are 3 stops of difference, but 3 stops difference from 1/125th would be 1/1000th. The 5DS-R had 1/1600 and therefore 2/3rd of a stop less light than the R5. Although, I don't understand why they appear to have the same captured brightness, if the exposure has not been raised in lightroom, but my math seems to be correct?

[@YouEligat]

Fabian Feldmann Yeah, there’s a lot of invalid comparisons with different apertures. At 9:21 he talks about red smear caused by moire, but it might just be purple fringing effect at the open aperture

[@fabianfeldmann4500]

@@YouEligat yeah, this should probably be revisited too. 2.8 is pretty closed (2 stops) for the 24mm, so it could really be from the missing filter on the 5DSR, but better be sure.

[@davidnelson702]

Listen to all the super haters....

[@Aturixios]

@@davidnelson702 How on earth is this super hating? They're just pointing out actual and objective flaws with a video, just simple feedback.

[@L.Lyubomirov]

R5 has the same dynamic range as a7r4...thats NOT TRUE what Tony says...i have measured booth cameras and i have different results than yours..R5 is also 0.4 stops better than R6 !R5 has about 14.6 stops dynamic range,a7r4 has about 14.64...even Canon sayed that R5 has about 1 stops better than 5d mark iv...5d mark iv has 13.8 stops...so R5 has exactly the same dynamic range as a7r4 :) And thats not professional to use JPEG as dynamic range comparison.

[@mikecullis8401]

Great and most welcome video - viewed from the other side of the pond. So timely since delivery of R5 starts today! I have an order for the R5 and 3 RF lenses! So very glad that my faith in Canon turned out to be right! One very happy camper today! Well done Tony - a great well balanced review!

[@JustANobody9757]

At last. The review I’ve been waiting for. Thanks

[@elias38]

Thanks for bringing up flickering issue. I’ve been pulling my hair out trying to find info on that.

[@mikefrith1590]

A much appreciated and thorough review. Thanks

[@blaspayri]

There is some "exposure pulsating" in the introduction and conclusion outside shots, shot with the a7sIII. Probably some automatic exposure parameter that needs to be less sensitive. Great video for photographers.

[@jimmylim8010]

Great review & comparison. Thanks, Tony.

[@wassimal-malak2591]

Great efforts from you tony are very appreciated . always helpful . thanks a lot .

[@subject8123]

Wish you would’ve downsampled the higher MP to match the lower MP before going 4 to 1 zoom. Increasing the size and makes the lower MP seem even less crisp at 4 to 1.

[@ryanaldenphotography5843]

Your reviews are SO in depth and you think of everything. I think that also leads to a bit of dramatic comparison/conclusions but 95% of everything you say covers SO much of what analysis is needed. Hellava job with your videos.

[@jsasa5668]

Thanks Tony, this is the video I needed/wanted.

[@tts3874]

Awesome work as per usual. Also heartbroken they don’t appear to be updating the 5d series. Have to wonder why you didn’t pull in the highlights in the ‘dynamic range test’. Any thoughts on the highlight recovery compared to the same cameras? Keep up the great work

[@tarheelgarden]

I sincerely appreciate your reviews!

[@kjehorn]

Thank you! A very high quality review of image quality when shooting photos👍🏼

[@bird271828]

Tony, thank you for your videos. They are informative and educational.

[@RolandAyala]

Wow. Amazing. A camera review that actually considers the camera part. Thank you. Finally!

[@JJBfilm]

Thank you for your video. I found the same problem with banding on raw images using the electronic shutter. I was going to return the R6...I converted a raw image to black-and-white and brought down the blue channel in the HSL, The entire sky had banding across the frame. This video put some light on the issue and help me figure out what was causing the banding...Much gratitude.

[@chrismglaros]

Thanks so much for this terrific video and all the wonderful work you guys do - it’s so helpful and much appreciated. Can you please explain/compare how the electronic first curtain shutter works regarding image quality versus the mechanical and electronic shutters? Thanks again!

[@rvboondocker2559]

Thanks for the terrific comparisons.

[@nicolewilson3886]

This is the video I have been waiting for. Thank you so much for your comparisons and addressing the things us stills photographers are thinking about. Most of us looking to go Mirrorless for the first time are torn between SONY's R series and the new R5/R6. I am torn between the R5 and the Sony A7R IV. But this is helping me figure out which way I want to go with my first mirrorless camera. I am very impressed with the Canon

[@alansach8437]

Really?? How can anyone be "torn" between the Canons and the Sony? Aren't most photographers so heavily invested in one ecosystem or the other that they would either have to be filthy rich or just starting out to just switch because one or the other temporarily outspecs the other? You'll just be switching back in a year or two when it's the other way around. Won't you?

[@nicolewilson3886]

@@alansach8437 Nope. Not if it's your first Mirrorless camera and you're not heavily invested in either.

[@idontwantacallsign]

It's a very flawed comparison. Go to dpreview and see the real difference between 61 MP and the 45 MP R5. They resized the images here!

[@nicolewilson3886]

@Gap I'm not a beginner , no, but going for my first mirrorless body.

[@momchilyordanov8190]

Interesting comparisons and tests. Thanks.

[@volkankvncsy385]

Thanks :) finaly someone talked about photo examples of r5 🤗👍🏻

[@aight365]

Wow I was waiting for this!

[@JCANPetros]

Good job on this Tony!

[@NildoScoop]

Very good and detailed review Tony. 👍

[@fatherchristmas2998]

your reviews are always great

[@craigcarlson4022]

Extremely helpful video, thanks!

[@jonathankim6892]

I was trying this myself with the files given by you guys. Should have looked for this video before. It's interesting that in Capture One, the R6 seems to have better dynamic range when pulling the shadows. Anyway, thanks for video. I really consider you guys as the one channel that is truly unbiased although a lot of commenters think otherwise.

[@robertdittmer2743]

Well done and really helpful video, many thanks.

[@MartinSc76]

Thank you so much for this comparison!

[@allengillis2636]

Thanks @Tony & Chelsea Northrup, this is a great video for images on the R5 and R6. As an avid amateur, that doesn't have the big budgets of pros, I'm am very interested in upgrading to the R6. It looks like it will do great for landscapes, wildlife, and long exposures. Really excited about this camera. Now, if I could just convince the wife.

[@enisonur]

Best Comparison I have ever seen, on this subject. Thanks very much.

[@sashashane3399]

Thank you so much for this!!!!! I wish I had the budget for the R5. I am eyeing the R6 and upgrading from a T7i. I would love a comparison of the R6 and R! I have learned so much from your books!!!!

[@GiacomoZonco]

I think unless you really need 30mp, the R6 is a better camera overall. IBIS, dual slots, joystick, new sensor and faster FPS, better video

[@sashashane3399]

@@GiacomoZonco That is what I have been leaning towards. Thank you for your input, much appreciated!

[@MrPhilbautista]

@@GiacomoZonco I would disagree on the "better camera overall" assumption. Better value... maybe. But the R5 was designed to be the better camera and its price reflects that. It does nearly everything better than the R6, with only the max ISO being 1 stop less than the R6. Having said that, an upgrade is usually based on need or want and is personal in nature so the user should always make their decision based on that and not what other people think is better.

[@GiacomoZonco]

philaw123 absolutely, I was comparing the R6 and the original R only, so that’s why I made that comment. Surely the R5 is amazing and I would also love to have one. One weird advantage the R6 has over the R5 is that its 4K video is much sharper (unless you are using the 4K HQ mode on the R5, that is downsampled from 8K but has heat limitations). But as a mostly still shooter the 45mp of the R5 is a joy

[@GiacomoZonco]

As the R5 is out of budget for me, I’m trying to see if losing 10mp and the top screen can be compensated by all the advantages the R6 has. For the most part I would say yes, but as a nerd I love punching into pictures and seeing all the details. But to be honest I mostly post on the web/socials and I’ve been able to print 12mp Mavic Pro Photos with no issues

[@bpham2010]

Great information. I’m a still photographer and really learned a lot from this video to compare cameras, especially the R5 vs R6

[@Yakman18]

Great review, thank you! I sold my 5D4 about a year ago and have been shooting Fujifilm. But I still have about a dozen EF lenses. I think an R5 may get those off the shelf.

[@rcdigitalstudio4437]

Great information. Great review thank u so much

[@Moni-qd9no]

I great comparison , you did so well Tony and this video makes my decision to buy the r5 much clearer.

[@ThatGuyInVegas]

Got my R5 today, the image quality is better than my 50Mpx 5DS R, at least I thought so! 50 Mpx to 45 Mpx you are only losing -328px Height x -496px Wide in image dimensions. The auto-focus shooting my dog today was insanely accurate!

[@sushiljanardhan]

I believe the banding can be eliminated by turning on anti-flicker detection. This should allow the camera to adjust to frequency of the light source and thus eliminating this issue or atleast reduce it to a large extent.

[@danielscott7627]

On the R at least, anti-flicker only works with mechanical shutter. So it won't fix it with the electronic shutter at any speed. Anti flicker works spectacularly though. I shot a political rally this week and had my old 6D on me as my roaming camera while my R was filming 4k 422 to my atomos recorder. The 6D doesn't have the anti-flicker feature so I always had it on the highest frame rate setting to pop off 4-5 shots to get one that was inside the syncing of the house lights. Once the speeches were over and I was able to take the R off the tripod, the difference is night and day and worth the price of the upgrade for that feature alone if you shoot under cheap lights often. Ever shot was perfectly white balanced from edge to edge instead of purple on one side and green on another.

[@jamesskintauy6773]

@@danielscott7627 That's too bad re: it only working with the mechanical shutter. Thanks for the information.

[@rhodesia1578]

So basically as I am a landscape photographer I don’t see anything in this review that sways me over to the R5 . It’s lots more expensive than my current 5DSR in fact nearly twice the price , so for using the R5 for stills in landscape photography I don’t see the major benefits of going towards the R5 .. thanks Tony for putting up this review and finally we get to hear the pro’s and con’s in both cameras .. your review is as always honest and realistic .

[@sctm81]

Yeah, agreed. Except maybe the dynamic range that is better at base ISO. The R5 is more of a camera that can do it all. Sports, action, wildlife, landscape, portrait, video.

[@alexsystems2001]

Thanks, this reaffirmed my preorder for the R5... I’m so glad to be back with Canon, I cheated on Canon for about 6 months with an A7R4 and it wasn’t that great, the pictures were nice but the Sony customer service was less than desirable and the usability was not so friendly.

[@AllieOnPointe]

Finally someone explaining the banding issue! I could not understand what was going on with my camera for a while at first. I shoot dance performance photography which is low light, fast motion and also requires silent shutter but then my photos end up with annoying banding...but I also cant switch to mechanical shutter during the performances. Thankfully its a very small black box theater so I’m close to the action or shooting from the wings but it’s still such a pain and I haven’t figured out a good solution. (I shoot on Olympus mirrorless)

[@bam4cky]

Very good detailed video. You showed a lot of things about the R5 no one else has.

[@FortMiseryGaming]

So forlow light the Canon R5 will do great ? I have heard clickting things on the low light. I am primary a still photographer so wanted to make sure it was the best option.

[@stefandietmann5120]

Hey Tony, could you do a sensor comparison of the EOS RP to the EOS R6 in regards to stills? That'd be swell. Also please include the "budget" lens options in your comparison from EF to RF. Im interessted in the EF85mm 1.8 to the RF 85mm 2.0. Anyways I am really looking forward to this series. Keep it up!

[@derbagger22]

I'd like to see that, too. I have the EF 85mm 1.8 and I stare at pics I take with it all day long. Such a nice little lens...

[@anderss6818]

Thanks for the tip on KEH.

[@voodoonights1671]

Thanks for this. Finally a good stills comparison.

[@mxrider8393]

how would the dynamic range of the r5 compare to the Nikon d750, I'm considering making the switch and that is the one and only thing I'm not sure if the r5 is better or not? thanks!

[@aviator201]

Hi Tony, thanks for this comparison. If you were to recommend a system for someone to adopt from scratch that wanted a premium full frame experience would you recommend the Sony A7RIV or the Canon R5 as the body to collect lenses for?

[@schiueva]

Thank you for your video. I would also like to know how well the improvement on the battery, also the FPS when using continuous AF and does FPS went down when battery power getting low or using the older batteries from my 5D4. How is the buffer if I don’t use the fastest cfexpress card. And when using the silent shutter on fast moving subject does it has a fast readout? Thank you

[@Paul_i_is]

Thanks for another great Vid Tony, Quick Question When i owned my 1dx mk1 although it had fewer megapixels, only 18 the pixels were larger and i found it to be a fantastic low light camera and with no flash took some spectacular images, i swapped to the 5D4 and have never been able to create the same image quality, with noise killing nearly every shot, Why have canon been unable to capitalise on the 1dx mk1's great low light advantage, i almost feel like taking a backward step and going back to the 1dx mk1. I have no experience of the 1 dx Mark 2, is this comparable to the mark 1 Please Many thanks

[@RonaldLadao]

@17:00 THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT! Now I can go 1/500 or 1/250 with the electric silent shutter when it comes to theater performances!. Before I was going at 1/125. But When I push it to 1/250, I notice a little banding.

[@deebea6364]

My R5 just arrived this morning! ☺️

[@CharlieLiuPhotography]

I'm sorry.

[@bdone3388]

Charlie Liu pretty sure that just makes you an arse.

[@marktizard7273]

Hope you enjoy it. are you more into photography or video. could you post back and let me know what you think of the image quality taking a picture?

[@MichaelRichards983]

Don't shoot video with it...

[@deebea6364]

mark tizard really impressed with the IBIS, AF, and quality coming out of the camera, it’s very easy to use, and at night in city lights it is easy to get very clean images with great colours, the dynamic range looks to be significantly better than the R... I can’t covert my Raws yet, but can already tell that it’s a huge step up from what I was getting back from the 5D4 (photographer mainly), haven’t tested the video yet but will get some clips today and see how it goes in the 4K HQ and 120 modes :) I set up custom menus to group all the things I will want to change quickly, but it’s highly intuitive! One strange thing is the joystick toggle came out of the box with no function, I set it to AF, I also set the bottom right of my screen to touch and drag AF too :)

[@ibp2007]

Always find your videos informative. If you’re comparing the R5 with everything else please keep all examples on the same side, ie the left with the items that are compared on the right and do the same with the graphics. Great trustworthy info.

[@monstrok]

Thank you for making a video for the still photo shooters. The video is cool and maybe a future interests, but my interests and business opportunities are in photography. The R5 really seems like it will fit the bill for my interests and styles. Thanks for the coverage!!!

[@arifkizilay]

Thank you so much, very instructive.

[@DrHumorous]

You are awesome Tony, thank you.

[@WoodyWalters]

I have to tip my hat to Tony and Chelsea. Your reviews are very well done and honest. When I watch your videos I know I can trust your input. Thank you for all your testing you do so I do not have to, and can spend my time creating.

[@rockjano]

Great video Tony!!!!!

[@doeunsama5375]

Me at 10 pm watching a video on cameras i cant afford or plan to buy 🤦‍♂️

[@Aturixios]

The R6 is the cheapest among the bunch here and quite the deal, since it has the same sensor as the 1DX MkIII, even though I can't afford it right now, I do plan on getting it within the next year or so.

[@Topper_Harley68]

@@Aturixios Well it's not exactly cheap that either.

[@alansach8437]

Funny! Guess there was nothing on TV?

[@ryanb8736]

3AM and I added to cart.

[@GastonShutters]

There is something overlooked here and it is that RF glass is just superior in some situations than GMaster. I shoot with both systems and the RF glass is better, period. You are going to see similar advantages shooting with and EOS R and an 47R3 even though they are different MP resolution.

[@TonyAndChelsea]

I do mention that in the video and plan to review the EF vs RF glass side-by-side soon. But yeah, I'm totally in love with the RF glass.

[@GastonShutters]

Tony & Chelsea Northrup Awesome Tony! I’m working on a GMaster ve RF 24-70 f2.8 comparison. Looking forward to your comparison. And keep up the great work

[@77dris]

I'm just sad that RF glass is SOO expensive. I'm waiting for Sigma and Tamron to release lenses. Right now I've been using my Sigma Arts adapted on the R and they are phenomenal.

[@GastonShutters]

77dris agreed. But by far best glass system I own.

[@TimFitzwater]

I loved to see the 5DIV - R5 comparison as this is the realistic upgrade path for me. I’m a photographer first and I love my 5D but am ready for the AF and some of the video features of mirrorless. But yeah - it would be hard to justify if the image quality wasn’t a step forward

[@camspotr9012]

I suggest controlling for white balance using a WB card in the photo unless you're specifically comparing the auto WB capability of the camera. I think the test would be more objective.

[@marcellkovacs5452]

I think he wanted to make the point that different colour can be simply down to WB difference. I agree that he could've matched the WB for the rest of the video.

[@DalsPhotography]

Thank you for an honest review!

[@americansoldier7776]

Tony, what did you shoot this video with? Looks amazing!

[@mattwatson3407]

Dear Tony, Thanks for the video. I noticed that when you compared the high iso images with the Sony and the R5. I know that the Sony doesn't have an AA filter and it noticable sharper than the Canon R5. Did you try lowering the sharpness of the Sony to match the softness of the Canon? Just curious if you found the test more readable or if this 'short comming' is something that would be fixable in post.

[@cornishblue58]

Excellent comparisons, very helpful. Surprised the R5 low light performance was better than the R6, as the R6 has been promoted as being a great low light camera. It is still a great camera, but didn’t expect the R5 to perform so well in comparison.

[@ryanb8736]

I know. The rumors of the R6 high iso is better than R5 is annoying.

[@Axonteer]

Thank you Tony - this answers most of my questions about the R6 in one small clip. Still i wonder how much damage the AA filter does to the 20mp but ... everybody was trying to tell me that the dynamic range of the R6 is SO MUCH better due to it being 20mp and my gut told me "lets see" ... and my gut was right. I own a 6Dmkii and 26mp are fine - i do mostly landscape and wildlife but i crop a lot. I cant always carry every lens around with me, nor do i have the time to switch all the time so i utizile crop, and with 26 you can easily crop in at least 20-30% (unless your doing a large 60x90cm print and even then... i printed 10mp images and they looked fine) ... if the R6 had really "bombastic" dynamic range it might have been an option but knowing that... 20mp is just a wee bit too little for me. So i probably have to save up for a year or two until i can afford the R5 eventhough i dont need cf express im fine with sd cards so i mostly will only use one slot.

[@izopen]

Waited 4 years for this. 😂 more of the R6 and R5 videos please. Thanks Tony great work 👍

[@thedondeluxe6941]

Great test, thanks! Exactly what I needed! High ISO and banding looks better than Sony, and that's mainly what I use it for. Add a great IBIS, and the R5 looks perfect for stage performances, concerts etc.

[@simrankhurana4396]

I think after using electronic shutter it may overheat. But still it's a huge leap forward

[@fabulous-sport-outdoors]

So..after all this long talk.. is it a camera to buy? Is it an upgrad e coming from the 5D Mark3? Is it good for action sports? Thanks!

[@rhiangraves2405]

Thanks .Great review.Does the R5 have the abilty to shoot Multiple images in camera and Blend light and dark modes in camera please?Thank you.

[@JimmyCheng]

What lens did you use to film this episode? is it the 24 GM? The 3d pop looks good.

[@77dris]

DSI Pictures on KZbin put up a new video today shot in 8K on the R5 and it's stunning! He also added he didn't even get an overheating warning after a day of shooting in Australia. He ALSO added that he found that fast SD cards were able to work with 8K and 4K HQ modes. I'm starting to wonder if the overheating is being caused by the CF cards, now, especially since a few people say the R5 doesn't even get hot (body) but the CF cards really do.

[@RudolfWolph]

I photographed a charity livestream event with the original EOS R and figured since I was close to the microphone I should use the silent shutter. The camera's screen didn't show the banding as well as I could see it once I had the files on my computer. Might just go ahead and make some noise next time.

[@FinalLugiaGuardian]

Forgive me if I missed something, but would it be possible to eliminate banding with these cameras fight not using the electronic shutter or not using the electronic first curtain shutter?

[@mibreit-photo]

Thanks for the review! Mine is already waiting at my Camera shop :-) gonna pick it up soon

[@ppBizU]

I love quality of this video. What did you use for taking the first part of it?

[@romani8494]

Nice and detailed comparison

[@FloatingOnAZephyr]

For those unaware: traditionally, these cheaper lights flicker in sync with the electrical AC frequency of your supply. In the US that's 60Hz, so any multiple of 60 may make the banding far better. Hope that helps someone. In the UK, our AC is 50Hz. If you wanna deep dive into this, it's pretty interesting. It's why our TVs broadcast at 30fps in the US and 25fps in the UK, as teles used to project in time with the AC powering the CRT screens and were interlaced images flickering at twice the frame rate, then we added colour and needed to use a bit of that to do colour etc. and ended up with 59.94Hz teles, yada yada. It's a geek dive but it's fascinating.

[@stephencarolin2020]

Is there any measuring device that calculates the frequency of the lighting in the room so a photographer can compensate more readily? Thank you in advance

[@FloatingOnAZephyr]

@@stephencarolin2020Just google the power supply frequency in your country and that should be it. Every country on earth is either 50Hz or 60Hz, so if you're not sure try using a shutter speed that's a multiple of 50 or 60 and see which gives you the best results. It may not eliminate banding as there will be timing differences in the camera and all that, but it should help.

[@chrisb5940]

Thanks for the video! Can you talk about the controls for sale when I change settings it’s instant soon as I turn the dial it changes do canon mirrorless have any lag? Also do the newest gen Sony’s still have lag? When changing SS ISO Aperture

[@pusacatLV]

Thank you for pointing out the banding. I shoot dance and sports on low light or stage lights and always have a problem with LEDs used inside the venues. As much as I love to totally go mirrorless, banding is the drawback.

[@eusenjo]

Just use the mechanical shutter. Banding is not a mirrorless issue, is an electronic shutter problem.

[@WilliamJohnston]

Great, thorough review Tony! It’s a shame the side effects of shooting electronic shutter, the high iso and lower dynamic range was quite a shock to me - I’ll consider that carefully with my R for the time being! Still verging on going for the R6, I’d be happiest with that if it had say the 30MP from the R, otherwise it’s perfect for me.

[@sayfog]

That's what I ended up doing, the eos r had some deals on it recently - i figure if I find myself really lusting after IBIS and better video I can upgrade later on to one of the new cameras when they're cheaper/more secondhand available.

[@camspotr9012]

Typical pro is using 1/640 for indoor sports like NCAA division I basketball up to 1/1000 for elite level (NBA) athletes. AP, Getty, local, etc actually use wireless indoor strobes mounted to the rafters that overpower ambient lights from the arena so banding isn't an issue with any camera. Watch an ESPN basketball highlight clip and you'll see the floor light up at critical moments (although some are sync'ed to the TV broadcast frame rate so the bursts might not appear in some videos). If you're not shooting with a strobe then having your image blown out by another strobed photographer is of more concern than banding.

[@kenross6028]

Tony, great content, but what's up with the pulsating brightness in the intro shot by the A7Siii? I watched this on an Imac & an OLED TV and both clearly showed this odd pulsating brightness in your intro.

[@xnogamertagx13]

yes, Ken I noticed this too. Almost as if the exposure was constantly adjusting and the video was brightening and darkening during the intro section shot with the A7S3

[@abedshmalieh456]

Thank you it’s great video, can you help me please 🙏 what to buy the Sony a7riv or the new canon R5 ? For landscape and travels. Thanks

[@ottawamountainman]

I can’t seem to figure out what lens were used for R5 vs A7R4? Cheers

[@Guizas]

Same lens, so i suppose he used EF lenses with the EF to RF adapter for the R5 and possibly a Sigma MC11 or a Metabones for the Sony. Either that or a lens that exists for both with manual focus.

[@Bassbarbie]

I've heard elsewhere that the mechanical shutter is very quiet - it was a problem for the photographer because the model didn't know when to change pose, but it might be useful for some. Does the R5 have the anti flicker option? If so, does it make a difference when using the electronic shutter?

[@stillsandvideo]

Great cf to see a photo centric review for photographers. Well done.