Canon EOS R5 Image Quality vs R6, R, 5D Mk IV, 5DS-R & Sony a7R IV

[@TonyAndChelsea]

PLEASE READ: I misspoke and said the R5 has 10 FPS with the mechanical shutter. The specs show it has 12; that's a theoretical maximum when it's not tracking autofocus. In our testing with the RF 70-200 tracking continuous AF for sports, it captured 8 FPS max. With our 500mm f/4 EF lens tracking AF, it captured 5 FPS. Note at 11:52 I accidentally showed the wrong image for the R5 (it's at f/8 instead of f/2.8) but comparing the f/2.8 images side-by-side it's still all the same conclusions.

[@neil454]

Thanks for the clarification. I'm interested in seeing the IQ tests for the A7S III

[@fabianfeldmann4500]

Check my comment for maybe two other mismatched comparisons: Error at 9:57 and 10:17: 5DS-R apparently had 2/3rd of a stop less light than the R5, so the comparison of low light and dynamic range might be invalid. Please check: 5DS-R is at 1/1600 at f2.8 and the R5 at 1/125 f8.0, both iso 6400. f2.8 to f8.0 are 3 stops of difference, but 3 stops difference from 1/125th would be 1/1000th. The 5DS-R had 1/1600 and therefore 2/3rd of a stop less light than the R5. Although, I don't understand why they appear to have the same captured brightness, if the exposure has not been raised in lightroom, but my math seems to be correct?

[@vbrvideoproductions4643]

Thank you Tony, appreciate the additional info on FPS when Tracking, keep up the fantastic work.

[@credos97]

Please SAY THE BURSTS NUMBERS ARE BULLSHIT IN AF-C in your future videos :) are the 20 FPS real in AF-C ? Thank you Tony :)

[@NABR62]

No worries Tony, I’m not holding it against you. It was a great comparison as I shoot with the EOS R and have pondered upgrading. I’ve really liked my EOS R and have had no issues with it.

[@imranshah4316]

Finally a comparison for photographer. Most reviewer only focus on video.

[@ronnelquino8335]

exactly!.

[@chriscunningham1985]

@SwitchRich the cameras have started to be delivered to those who pre-ordered, there's unboxing videos out there now

[@robertdittmer2743]

Very true! I can't hear anything about overheating anymore, knowing I would rarely (if at all) use the video feature...

[@idontwantacallsign]

But it's flawed with some errors

[@thatcreole9913]

Yes!

[@fabianfeldmann4500]

Thanks for your great work. I think there is an error at 9:57 and 10:17: 5DS-R apparently had 2/3rd of a stop less light than the R5, so the comparison of low light and dynamic range might be invalid. Please check: 5DS-R is at 1/1600 at f2.8 and the R5 at 1/125 f8.0, both iso 6400. f2.8 to f8.0 are 3 stops of difference, but 3 stops difference from 1/125th would be 1/1000th. The 5DS-R had 1/1600 and therefore 2/3rd of a stop less light than the R5. Although, I don't understand why they appear to have the same captured brightness, if the exposure has not been raised in lightroom, but my math seems to be correct?

[@YouEligat]

Fabian Feldmann Yeah, there’s a lot of invalid comparisons with different apertures. At 9:21 he talks about red smear caused by moire, but it might just be purple fringing effect at the open aperture

[@fabianfeldmann4500]

@@YouEligat yeah, this should probably be revisited too. 2.8 is pretty closed (2 stops) for the 24mm, so it could really be from the missing filter on the 5DSR, but better be sure.

[@davidnelson702]

Listen to all the super haters....

[@Aturixios]

@@davidnelson702 How on earth is this super hating? They're just pointing out actual and objective flaws with a video, just simple feedback.

[@L.Lyubomirov]

R5 has the same dynamic range as a7r4...thats NOT TRUE what Tony says...i have measured booth cameras and i have different results than yours..R5 is also 0.4 stops better than R6 !R5 has about 14.6 stops dynamic range,a7r4 has about 14.64...even Canon sayed that R5 has about 1 stops better than 5d mark iv...5d mark iv has 13.8 stops...so R5 has exactly the same dynamic range as a7r4 :) And thats not professional to use JPEG as dynamic range comparison.

[@arildhagen3820]

The sharpness comparing between R6 and R5. The R6 image was shot with f/2.8 and the R5 at F/8.0 for the comparing.

[@Altitude2011]

Hi Tony, it would be interesting to compare the image quality of the Canon R5 to the image quality of the Nikon D850 or the Nikon Z7.

[@markhathaway4816]

Tony, I have not looked at the comments to your videos before today, when I looked at them to see your pinned comment to your video about noise not being caused by high ISO. As an aspiring photographer who enjoys learning about the technical (what you refer to as the nerdy) aspects, I very much value your teaching videos. I see that you receive many comments of a less appreciative nature, but since you march on with the teaching I trust that you are giving such comments the treatment they deserve, which would be to ignore them. Thank you for providing me with a trusted source of information and inspiration, and I hope you are rightfully rewarded for what you do.

[@subject8123]

Wish you would’ve downsampled the higher MP to match the lower MP before going 4 to 1 zoom. Increasing the size and makes the lower MP seem even less crisp at 4 to 1.

[@sushiljanardhan]

I believe the banding can be eliminated by turning on anti-flicker detection. This should allow the camera to adjust to frequency of the light source and thus eliminating this issue or atleast reduce it to a large extent.

[@danielscott7627]

On the R at least, anti-flicker only works with mechanical shutter. So it won't fix it with the electronic shutter at any speed. Anti flicker works spectacularly though. I shot a political rally this week and had my old 6D on me as my roaming camera while my R was filming 4k 422 to my atomos recorder. The 6D doesn't have the anti-flicker feature so I always had it on the highest frame rate setting to pop off 4-5 shots to get one that was inside the syncing of the house lights. Once the speeches were over and I was able to take the R off the tripod, the difference is night and day and worth the price of the upgrade for that feature alone if you shoot under cheap lights often. Ever shot was perfectly white balanced from edge to edge instead of purple on one side and green on another.

[@jamesskintauy6773]

@@danielscott7627 That's too bad re: it only working with the mechanical shutter. Thanks for the information.

[@GastonShutters]

There is something overlooked here and it is that RF glass is just superior in some situations than GMaster. I shoot with both systems and the RF glass is better, period. You are going to see similar advantages shooting with and EOS R and an 47R3 even though they are different MP resolution.

[@TonyAndChelsea]

I do mention that in the video and plan to review the EF vs RF glass side-by-side soon. But yeah, I'm totally in love with the RF glass.

[@GastonShutters]

Tony & Chelsea Northrup Awesome Tony! I’m working on a GMaster ve RF 24-70 f2.8 comparison. Looking forward to your comparison. And keep up the great work

[@77dris]

I'm just sad that RF glass is SOO expensive. I'm waiting for Sigma and Tamron to release lenses. Right now I've been using my Sigma Arts adapted on the R and they are phenomenal.

[@GastonShutters]

77dris agreed. But by far best glass system I own.

[@alexsystems2001]

Thanks, this reaffirmed my preorder for the R5... I’m so glad to be back with Canon, I cheated on Canon for about 6 months with an A7R4 and it wasn’t that great, the pictures were nice but the Sony customer service was less than desirable and the usability was not so friendly.

[@ChuckinAurora]

This is the comparison video I've been waiting for. Thanks for making it.

[@TonyAndChelsea]

You're welcome!

[@ThatGuyInVegas]

Got my R5 today, the image quality is better than my 50Mpx 5DS R, at least I thought so! 50 Mpx to 45 Mpx you are only losing -328px Height x -496px Wide in image dimensions. The auto-focus shooting my dog today was insanely accurate!

[@avradeepkarmakar4822]

Can the DT 24mm f/1.4 SAM resolve 61mp of the A7rIV? The 24mm f/1.4 GM might have given better results. Just my thoughts.

[@QuietOC]

No such lens. The "DT ... SAM" naming convention is how the Sigma MC-11 labels unsupported lenses. Probably a Canon EF 24mm F1.4 USM in this case. Tony mentioned using the same lens on all bodies for more direct comparison.

[@avradeepkarmakar4822]

Ok. Thanks. I also thought that the same lens was used but got confused by the name of the lens. But still the issue of using a non sony lens remains the same. As I have read on the internet that even very few sony lenses can resolve full resolution of the A7rIV.

[@commenting2008]

@@QuietOC It's not a fair comparison if the Sony suffers a handicap of having to work with a non-native lens. Though my EF50/1.2 seems to give sharper images with my A7r4 than my 5DSR.

[@deebea6364]

My R5 just arrived this morning! ☺️

[@CharlieLiuPhotography]

I'm sorry.

[@bdone3388]

Charlie Liu pretty sure that just makes you an arse.

[@marktizard7273]

Hope you enjoy it. are you more into photography or video. could you post back and let me know what you think of the image quality taking a picture?

[@MichaelRichards983]

Don't shoot video with it...

[@deebea6364]

mark tizard really impressed with the IBIS, AF, and quality coming out of the camera, it’s very easy to use, and at night in city lights it is easy to get very clean images with great colours, the dynamic range looks to be significantly better than the R... I can’t covert my Raws yet, but can already tell that it’s a huge step up from what I was getting back from the 5D4 (photographer mainly), haven’t tested the video yet but will get some clips today and see how it goes in the 4K HQ and 120 modes :) I set up custom menus to group all the things I will want to change quickly, but it’s highly intuitive! One strange thing is the joystick toggle came out of the box with no function, I set it to AF, I also set the bottom right of my screen to touch and drag AF too :)

[@rhodesia1578]

So basically as I am a landscape photographer I don’t see anything in this review that sways me over to the R5 . It’s lots more expensive than my current 5DSR in fact nearly twice the price , so for using the R5 for stills in landscape photography I don’t see the major benefits of going towards the R5 .. thanks Tony for putting up this review and finally we get to hear the pro’s and con’s in both cameras .. your review is as always honest and realistic .

[@sctm81]

Yeah, agreed. Except maybe the dynamic range that is better at base ISO. The R5 is more of a camera that can do it all. Sports, action, wildlife, landscape, portrait, video.

[@davepercy4953]

Excellent review, would love to hear similar comments on the R6 versus the R.

[@camspotr9012]

11:53 R6 at f/2.8 versus R5 at f/8.0 might be why R6 was noticibly less sharp.

[@mikezupancic2182]

RF lenses are sharp enough wide open.

[@cooloox]

No, that's not the issue. He upscaled the R6 to 45MP to match the size of the R5 images. He also upscaled the 45MP R5 images to 61MP to match the A7R4. I find this to be nonsensical as noone would ever do that in the real world.

[@tracesoftexas327]

No kidding. Come on, Tony!

[@77dris]

That might account for some of it, though that lens is razor sharp at F2.8. The loss of 25 MP probably has more to do with it.

[@TonyAndChelsea]

I added a pinned comment about this. I just accidentally clicked the wrong image but the conclusions are all the same, and we're looking at the focal plane. The R6 is less sharp b/c it has less than half the megapixels. The 24mm f/1.4 is actually less sharp at f/8 than f/2.8 (it's sweet spot).

[@jalexanderevans]

Tony, there's a rear mechanical shutter when shooting with the electronic shutter? I'm confused.

[@johnkantar3082]

im also confused

[@doeunsama5375]

Me at 10 pm watching a video on cameras i cant afford or plan to buy 🤦‍♂️

[@Aturixios]

The R6 is the cheapest among the bunch here and quite the deal, since it has the same sensor as the 1DX MkIII, even though I can't afford it right now, I do plan on getting it within the next year or so.

[@Topper_Harley68]

@@Aturixios Well it's not exactly cheap that either.

[@alansach8437]

Funny! Guess there was nothing on TV?

[@ryanb8736]

3AM and I added to cart.

[@RolandAyala]

Wow. Amazing. A camera review that actually considers the camera part. Thank you. Finally!

[@camspotr9012]

I suggest controlling for white balance using a WB card in the photo unless you're specifically comparing the auto WB capability of the camera. I think the test would be more objective.

[@marcellkovacs5452]

I think he wanted to make the point that different colour can be simply down to WB difference. I agree that he could've matched the WB for the rest of the video.

[@sashashane3399]

Thank you so much for this!!!!! I wish I had the budget for the R5. I am eyeing the R6 and upgrading from a T7i. I would love a comparison of the R6 and R! I have learned so much from your books!!!!

[@GiacomoZonco]

I think unless you really need 30mp, the R6 is a better camera overall. IBIS, dual slots, joystick, new sensor and faster FPS, better video

[@sashashane3399]

@@GiacomoZonco That is what I have been leaning towards. Thank you for your input, much appreciated!

[@MrPhilbautista]

@@GiacomoZonco I would disagree on the "better camera overall" assumption. Better value... maybe. But the R5 was designed to be the better camera and its price reflects that. It does nearly everything better than the R6, with only the max ISO being 1 stop less than the R6. Having said that, an upgrade is usually based on need or want and is personal in nature so the user should always make their decision based on that and not what other people think is better.

[@GiacomoZonco]

philaw123 absolutely, I was comparing the R6 and the original R only, so that’s why I made that comment. Surely the R5 is amazing and I would also love to have one. One weird advantage the R6 has over the R5 is that its 4K video is much sharper (unless you are using the 4K HQ mode on the R5, that is downsampled from 8K but has heat limitations). But as a mostly still shooter the 45mp of the R5 is a joy

[@GiacomoZonco]

As the R5 is out of budget for me, I’m trying to see if losing 10mp and the top screen can be compensated by all the advantages the R6 has. For the most part I would say yes, but as a nerd I love punching into pictures and seeing all the details. But to be honest I mostly post on the web/socials and I’ve been able to print 12mp Mavic Pro Photos with no issues

[@ottawamountainman]

I can’t seem to figure out what lens were used for R5 vs A7R4? Cheers

[@Guizas]

Same lens, so i suppose he used EF lenses with the EF to RF adapter for the R5 and possibly a Sigma MC11 or a Metabones for the Sony. Either that or a lens that exists for both with manual focus.

[@77dris]

DSI Pictures on KZbin put up a new video today shot in 8K on the R5 and it's stunning! He also added he didn't even get an overheating warning after a day of shooting in Australia. He ALSO added that he found that fast SD cards were able to work with 8K and 4K HQ modes. I'm starting to wonder if the overheating is being caused by the CF cards, now, especially since a few people say the R5 doesn't even get hot (body) but the CF cards really do.

[@nicolewilson3886]

This is the video I have been waiting for. Thank you so much for your comparisons and addressing the things us stills photographers are thinking about. Most of us looking to go Mirrorless for the first time are torn between SONY's R series and the new R5/R6. I am torn between the R5 and the Sony A7R IV. But this is helping me figure out which way I want to go with my first mirrorless camera. I am very impressed with the Canon

[@alansach8437]

Really?? How can anyone be "torn" between the Canons and the Sony? Aren't most photographers so heavily invested in one ecosystem or the other that they would either have to be filthy rich or just starting out to just switch because one or the other temporarily outspecs the other? You'll just be switching back in a year or two when it's the other way around. Won't you?

[@nicolewilson3886]

@@alansach8437 Nope. Not if it's your first Mirrorless camera and you're not heavily invested in either.

[@idontwantacallsign]

It's a very flawed comparison. Go to dpreview and see the real difference between 61 MP and the 45 MP R5. They resized the images here!

[@nicolewilson3886]

@Gap I'm not a beginner , no, but going for my first mirrorless body.

[@kenross6028]

Tony, great content, but what's up with the pulsating brightness in the intro shot by the A7Siii? I watched this on an Imac & an OLED TV and both clearly showed this odd pulsating brightness in your intro.

[@xnogamertagx13]

yes, Ken I noticed this too. Almost as if the exposure was constantly adjusting and the video was brightening and darkening during the intro section shot with the A7S3

[@timaaaahhhh]

You're holding the "Gold" version of that Prograde CF Express card. Do you mean the Gold doesn't work, or the Cobalt???

[@paulmorris4759]

He definitely held up the lower spec'd Gold version. The Cobalt should be fine.

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Well, good question. I bought the Cobalt and I guess I never looked at it as closely as you - maybe they shipped the wrong version. But Jared has been using the Gold version with no problems, so I guess I just got unlucky. I dunno.

[@paulmorris4759]

@@TonyAndChelsea The Gold version has the gold label; the Cobalt is, well, Cobalt-colored. I know with SanDisk that their larger capacity ExtremePro CFexpress cards have higher write speeds. For example, the 64GB cards that Canon USA bundled with the 1DX3 launch couldn't handle 5K RAW, but the 512GB cards that Canon Canada bundled with theirs could. Perhaps Jared had a larger capacity ProGrade card than you.

[@timaaaahhhh]

@@paulmorris4759 Right.. Obviously I can see that. But he said he had a problem with the Cobalt version.

[@errphoto]

Yeah clarification would be nice because I bought a Cobalt version for the higher speeds and if that doesn’t work I’ll be sorely disappointed

[@vinnieldn]

Hi Tony, could you do a tutorial video for the R5/R6 pretty please? Thanks 🙏

[@elias38]

Thanks for bringing up flickering issue. I’ve been pulling my hair out trying to find info on that.

[@JJBfilm]

Thank you for your video. I found the same problem with banding on raw images using the electronic shutter. I was going to return the R6...I converted a raw image to black-and-white and brought down the blue channel in the HSL, The entire sky had banding across the frame. This video put some light on the issue and help me figure out what was causing the banding...Much gratitude.

[@JSloshooter]

??? I heard the rumble by the YT masses and decided to watch this video. And then you came to the first comparison frame, of the Canon R5 and the Sony. I had to "rewind" a bit so I could read the camera's info. And I almost fell out of my chair! What kind of a comparison test is this, when you are using an ancient EF lens, WITH an ADAPTER, on the NEW "state of the art" R5 body? That is like comparing a pee shooter and an AK-47 ie RF "L" lens. Yes, there is no 24mm RF"L" prime lens to compare with the Sony 24mm prime lens... but I am pretty sure Sony has a 50 f/1.2 lens that could have been compared to Canon's RF"L" 50 f/1.2 prime. My first camera was a Hasselblad system, 1968. Then SinarF 4x5 later that year. And every Nikon system until 1989, until Canon came out with motors in the lenses, and all us photojournalists dumped Nikon for Canon. In my humble opinion, the RF"L" lenses are the best there is! Ever. Been using 6 of them over the last 2 years. Just establishing my experience. And there is always someone who knows more. So Tony, would you elaborate a little why the EF lens was used instead of the new RF'L" glass. Ty...

[@MrPhilbautista]

7:44 The 5Div is NOT the last DSLR Canon made. The 90D and 1DXiii both came after the 5Div. Just saying.

[@UbiKentang-]

maybe the last 5d line

[@FloatingOnAZephyr]

For those unaware: traditionally, these cheaper lights flicker in sync with the electrical AC frequency of your supply. In the US that's 60Hz, so any multiple of 60 may make the banding far better. Hope that helps someone. In the UK, our AC is 50Hz. If you wanna deep dive into this, it's pretty interesting. It's why our TVs broadcast at 30fps in the US and 25fps in the UK, as teles used to project in time with the AC powering the CRT screens and were interlaced images flickering at twice the frame rate, then we added colour and needed to use a bit of that to do colour etc. and ended up with 59.94Hz teles, yada yada. It's a geek dive but it's fascinating.

[@stephencarolin2020]

Is there any measuring device that calculates the frequency of the lighting in the room so a photographer can compensate more readily? Thank you in advance

[@FloatingOnAZephyr]

@@stephencarolin2020Just google the power supply frequency in your country and that should be it. Every country on earth is either 50Hz or 60Hz, so if you're not sure try using a shutter speed that's a multiple of 50 or 60 and see which gives you the best results. It may not eliminate banding as there will be timing differences in the camera and all that, but it should help.

[@JohnDrummondPhoto]

The R6 may not be up to the R5, but it kicks my 7D Mark II's @$$. I just processed a photo of an indigo bunting against a bright sky, and another of an ovenbird in shaded woods. It took all my skill in LR and PS (and Topaz Denoise for the ovenbird) to get usable photos. I look forward to less work in post.

[@GBftw]

I would like to see more on the R5 vs a7riv image quality. It seems very odd that there is a noticeable improvement in detail going to the 5dsr but not the a7riv. Lenses are optimised for sensors so maybe a more telephoto lens or native lens use would get different results.

[@marioslrzn]

Barnabas Mackay that’s a good question, because the rf lenses are sharper and resolve more mp

[@GBftw]

@@marioslrzn that's fair, as long as cost and weight etc is included in the comparison.

[@rolandrick]

15:50, on press events, you normally always shoot with on camera flash. At least I do and to my awareness all other photographers there also. That requires mechanical mechanical shutter anyway. Sports events at bright stadium light 9M2 + anti flicker set to on or of course D5/D500/1DX and mechanical shutter.

[@harleyxl2001]

I am really happy to see this, although I did have to check the calendar to make sure it wasn't April 1st. I am looking forward to your R5 testing video, while I understand your point of the shadow recovery, it would be more realistic to see it in a real world type scenario instead of a gross over exposure of the image. Hopefully you will do a landscape photo and correctly recover the shadows as you would in a real photo. I have no interest in the video capabilities of this camera (in fact I wish they offered a version without video). From this review and the other video you did, this looks like a winner to me. Now if they would just be available for purchase somewhere.

[@CameraRestore]

I’m a canon user but the ISO comparison is not accurate since you have converted the raw files with photoshop. That noise artefact is a PS problem. I would be really curious converting the raw files with manufacturers programs and then see the results of the Sony

[@DalsPhotography]

Thanks for this comment, I am finally ditching LR and went to Capture One, I noticed a great difference specially in noise awareness as well as within focus . I still use a lot my canon 5Dsr.

[@stefandietmann5120]

Hey Tony, could you do a sensor comparison of the EOS RP to the EOS R6 in regards to stills? That'd be swell. Also please include the "budget" lens options in your comparison from EF to RF. Im interessted in the EF85mm 1.8 to the RF 85mm 2.0. Anyways I am really looking forward to this series. Keep it up!

[@derbagger22]

I'd like to see that, too. I have the EF 85mm 1.8 and I stare at pics I take with it all day long. Such a nice little lens...

[@theluminaryinc]

Finally, something for the photographers, thank you so much for this

[@blaspayri]

There is some "exposure pulsating" in the introduction and conclusion outside shots, shot with the a7sIII. Probably some automatic exposure parameter that needs to be less sensitive. Great video for photographers.

[@mxrider8393]

how would the dynamic range of the r5 compare to the Nikon d750, I'm considering making the switch and that is the one and only thing I'm not sure if the r5 is better or not? thanks!

[@michaelturner6358]

How about the anti flicker setting? Does that help?

[@WoodyWalters]

I have to tip my hat to Tony and Chelsea. Your reviews are very well done and honest. When I watch your videos I know I can trust your input. Thank you for all your testing you do so I do not have to, and can spend my time creating.

[@cornishblue58]

Excellent comparisons, very helpful. Surprised the R5 low light performance was better than the R6, as the R6 has been promoted as being a great low light camera. It is still a great camera, but didn’t expect the R5 to perform so well in comparison.

[@ryanb8736]

I know. The rumors of the R6 high iso is better than R5 is annoying.

[@pusacatLV]

Thank you for pointing out the banding. I shoot dance and sports on low light or stage lights and always have a problem with LEDs used inside the venues. As much as I love to totally go mirrorless, banding is the drawback.

[@eusenjo]

Just use the mechanical shutter. Banding is not a mirrorless issue, is an electronic shutter problem.

[@RonaldLadao]

@17:00 THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT! Now I can go 1/500 or 1/250 with the electric silent shutter when it comes to theater performances!. Before I was going at 1/125. But When I push it to 1/250, I notice a little banding.

[@L.Lyubomirov]

@10:24 Dynamic range comparison at iso6400,is this a joke ???Dynamic range must be compared only at base iso..come on man !

[@smaakjeks]

The R5 looks great, and I do shoot with the good old 5Dsr. An upgrade is tempting, but my camera gets to stay in the gear bag a few years more. It has places to be and it's not yet ready to retire

[@billz4795]

DITTO - my 5Dsr shoots fine all day long

[@rumporridge1]

5DM4 still going strong on my end as well.

[@billx4266]

Hi Tony what do you think about lightroom subscr... for amateurs? Isnt it too costly? Capture one, you can buy it and done....

[@unknownKnownunknowns]

just the comparison I was looking for. R% seems to do it all. Thanks. Curious why you used different apertures and shutter speeds when comparing the 5Dsr to R5 starting @ 9:19 ?

[@ericbphoto1]

Great video! Does anybody know what the “small or medium” size RAWs will be on the R5?

[@izopen]

Been trying to find that out too

[@camxiong]

I don't think they do that with the new Canon's now. They do C-RAW (compressed). Smaller RAW file size and extremely negligible differences.

[@FQ8]

The R% manual is out. Might be there.

[@ogonzilla]

No small raw. C-Raw will cut the file size.

[@theosphilusthistler712]

No real photographer would ever miss the exposure by 5 stops. I nail the exposure and focus and everything every time because I'm me, I'm so awesome I don't need to worry about dynamic range. You're welcome.

[@DarkPa1adin]

Your name must be Pixel and your father must be Google

[@VyasAnand]

DarkPa1adin lol

[@Paul_i_is]

Thanks for another great Vid Tony, Quick Question When i owned my 1dx mk1 although it had fewer megapixels, only 18 the pixels were larger and i found it to be a fantastic low light camera and with no flash took some spectacular images, i swapped to the 5D4 and have never been able to create the same image quality, with noise killing nearly every shot, Why have canon been unable to capitalise on the 1dx mk1's great low light advantage, i almost feel like taking a backward step and going back to the 1dx mk1. I have no experience of the 1 dx Mark 2, is this comparable to the mark 1 Please Many thanks

[@nagual2335]

Is it such a hassle to perform a manual white balance and match it between cameras when pixel peeping and making world-class camera inspections?

[@fabulous-sport-outdoors]

So..after all this long talk.. is it a camera to buy? Is it an upgrad e coming from the 5D Mark3? Is it good for action sports? Thanks!

[@ryanaldenphotography5843]

Your reviews are SO in depth and you think of everything. I think that also leads to a bit of dramatic comparison/conclusions but 95% of everything you say covers SO much of what analysis is needed. Hellava job with your videos.

[@ArturoHoyte]

13:38 You could enable the Anti-flicker Shooting feature to eliminate this.

[@youuuuuuuuuuutube]

Only works with the mechanical shutter

[@silvestrocrino3256]

Might have been interesting to include the A7r3 along with the A7r4 in these comparisons... we know it has better high ISO performance than its 61MPix brother so the differences you see may just be a natural consequence of comparing a camera with more but smaller pixels to a camera with fewer but bigger pixels...sensor generation being comparable... also, once you get to 61MPix, I'm thinking you have to be careful which lens you pick for the test... many lenses that worked fantastically and super sharp on my A7r3 have become blah on my A7r4.... I think you yourself, Tony, where amongst those warning that using FF lenses on APC-S size sensors with smaller pixels more densely packed together was sometimes a problem.... could be much the same effect here for the A7r4 if you are not careful of lens used on it.

[@marioslrzn]

Silvestro Crino I think put they’re respective 85f lens

[@laszlopodor1976]

Flickering issue: Just enable the "Anti-flicker Shoot." settings and the banding will disappear. This feature was available in the 5D Mark IV and the EOS R as well.

[@ayayoutuber]

RP has anti Flickr as well

[@MikedieONE]

anti flicker shot only helps to keep the light exposure the same. it doesnt help to fix the electronic shutter flicker banding.

[@Aturixios]

Anti-flicker is mechanical shutter only

[@FinalLugiaGuardian]

Forgive me if I missed something, but would it be possible to eliminate banding with these cameras fight not using the electronic shutter or not using the electronic first curtain shutter?

[@JohnRichardsonAuthor]

I just read that the second production batch of R5 cameras won't be released until November. Sounds like a production/design change and firmware updates to address overheating problems. It would be really interesting to see the R5 high iso against the Sony A7S3. The lower megapixel 45mp in the R5 was better than the 61mp of the A7R4 which is understandable, but it was still unusable. The 12mp A7R3 would be interesting to see in the same low light scenario. If usable at ISO 51k could really be a help for wedding photographers.

[@youknowwho9247]

Nobody in their right mind is going to seriously consider a 12 mpix body for stills.

[@TheSonnybrownsb]

3 sec. This Moment When you Watch a Video over the Canon R5 is Filmed With the Sony 7S 3😂

[@studiooneportraitdesign9148]

Sorry if this has been asked before but does the R5 have banding when using the mechanical shutter and if so under what conditions?

[@Benderiukas]

Had you chance to make comparison of DSLR and RF lenses as you mention in 10:40 ? Thinking to trade in 5D MKIII and 7D MKII but dunno if it's worth if I keep using DSLR L lenses specifically 16-35 2.8 II, 70-200 2.8 II and 100-400 II

[@hunglemed]

Dynamic range test, R5 looks better to me, Sony seems to be less detail and more blur

[@MartinVit]

it would be better to show the noise straight from the RAW without denoise. This jpeg comparision shows denoise difference and to me I do not see sony winner here as canon shows slight more details so if canon would apply more denoise it will look same or better.

[@donschiffer7400]

I shot a wedding in a pavilion at 1pm in 2018. I had to expose for the couple but the background was blown out. One of those moments when a few more stops of dynamic range would have been nice. I was using the 5d iv.

[@RudolfWolph]

I photographed a charity livestream event with the original EOS R and figured since I was close to the microphone I should use the silent shutter. The camera's screen didn't show the banding as well as I could see it once I had the files on my computer. Might just go ahead and make some noise next time.

[@MaximDupliy]

Hello Tony and photo collegues . Does the A9 mark 1 has minimal banding in ES like Sony A9 ii Canon R5/6? Thank you

[@FortMiseryGaming]

So forlow light the Canon R5 will do great ? I have heard clickting things on the low light. I am primary a still photographer so wanted to make sure it was the best option.

[@RockyMaiviaMiami]

Thanks for what you do. The R5 is legitimately a great Camera. Canon just needs to chill with the 🔨 (record limit, really ?)

[@NikCan66]

Great comparison but I will wait for what Nikons next mirrorless cameras are like to get a more fuller comparison.

[@ayayoutuber]

Record limit is due to European law? Go blame them

[@DrummingTmate]

@@ayayoutuber That law's been gone for two years.

[@nahpungnome]

They need to chill alright.

[@Niceone11202011]

If you blame the cripple hammer for something you can't do then you suck.

[@thedondeluxe6941]

Great test, thanks! Exactly what I needed! High ISO and banding looks better than Sony, and that's mainly what I use it for. Add a great IBIS, and the R5 looks perfect for stage performances, concerts etc.

[@simrankhurana4396]

I think after using electronic shutter it may overheat. But still it's a huge leap forward

[@philindeblanc]

@20:30 it cuts to a commercial rather abruptly.....Maybe there is a part2?

[@DavidStahl]

I didn't check the 361 prior comments but just in case no one else points this out, comparing the A7R4 to the R5 at ISO 51200, is not an apples-to-apples comparison since the A7R4's top native ISO is 32000. At the moment, in terms of low light performance, Sony is not competitive in the 45 MP space now that the R5 is being marketed. Look for Sony to soon offer an A7R5 with just 45 or so MP and a native ISO of at least 51,200.

[@NicksTech]

I am confused as I am looking for a replacement to my Canon RP and thought the R6 would offer better high ISO. When looking at the raw files from dpreview the R5 seemed to have more detail but more noise. I am just trying to find the best camera for the active family. I do crop and shoot in all kinds of light. 4k uncropped for short clips is a must but I cannot find an answer on the 4k oversampled compared to r5 4k HQ as for which is better. Any input helps. Thanks

[@ikoyDaPnoy]

Can you do a low light & dynamic range comparison in photos & videos for a7sIII vs a7rIV?

[@ttight11]

Can't wait for the rest of the review and comparison!

[@AllieOnPointe]

Finally someone explaining the banding issue! I could not understand what was going on with my camera for a while at first. I shoot dance performance photography which is low light, fast motion and also requires silent shutter but then my photos end up with annoying banding...but I also cant switch to mechanical shutter during the performances. Thankfully its a very small black box theater so I’m close to the action or shooting from the wings but it’s still such a pain and I haven’t figured out a good solution. (I shoot on Olympus mirrorless)

[@davidthefat]

How’s the IQ and low light compared to the Fuji GFX 50R/S and 100? I just ordered the 50R, considering getting the 100 later too.

[@77dris]

Those Fuji MF cams have BEAUTIFUL image quality! Not practical AF and stuff for most things, but if you do portraits and such, amazing.

[@JimmyCheng]

What lens did you use to film this episode? is it the 24 GM? The 3d pop looks good.

[@drbeardo6960]

Dxomark retested 1Dx mark 3 sensor Dynamic Range : 14.5 EV Widest DR for a canon camera so far R6 shares the same sensor, great news for canon fans

[@RayDeLuca]

Tony & Chelsea I have commented a ton and don't expect an answer but I have a serious question. Today I and going to either buy the Eos r or order the R5 if I order the R5 it will be ruff on my bank account as I am not made of money BUT I shoot portraits and currently shoot on the EOS RP. My simple question is is image quality from the RP to the R a huge jump that i could see or will i need the R5.

[@mikecullis8401]

Great and most welcome video - viewed from the other side of the pond. So timely since delivery of R5 starts today! I have an order for the R5 and 3 RF lenses! So very glad that my faith in Canon turned out to be right! One very happy camper today! Well done Tony - a great well balanced review!

[@tts3874]

Awesome work as per usual. Also heartbroken they don’t appear to be updating the 5d series. Have to wonder why you didn’t pull in the highlights in the ‘dynamic range test’. Any thoughts on the highlight recovery compared to the same cameras? Keep up the great work

[@jerrywaynecalloway]

Will I be able to use my canon lenses that I used with my 5D mark 4 with the R5?

[@maxivespa]

(sorry for my english) please tell me Tony, if you are setting the r6 on manual mode, is it still possible to set iso on auto? (sometimes canon disable this if you dont buy the top camera)

[@abedshmalieh456]

Thank you it’s great video, can you help me please 🙏 what to buy the Sony a7riv or the new canon R5 ? For landscape and travels. Thanks

[@mattwatson3407]

Dear Tony, Thanks for the video. I noticed that when you compared the high iso images with the Sony and the R5. I know that the Sony doesn't have an AA filter and it noticable sharper than the Canon R5. Did you try lowering the sharpness of the Sony to match the softness of the Canon? Just curious if you found the test more readable or if this 'short comming' is something that would be fixable in post.

[@3dtrip870]

Does the adapted glass on the Sony mean anything to the sharpness?

[@andrewpadyk67]

Does anti-flicker mode not work with the electronic shutter?

[@lightingbryan]

@TONY, will you please clarify... The card you show is not THE Cobalt. It's the Gold card. The cobalt should work but the Gold does not. Can you clarify if in fact colbalts don't work? Or if it's Gold? Thanks!

[@thecringe_tv]

Why did you use an ef 24 1.4? Wouldn’t be better if the lens you used was Native RF?

[@TonyAndChelsea]

I needed one lens that I could use on EF, RF, and E, and it was the sharpest I had. But it's VERY sharp at f/2.8 especially at the center.

[@burnellgraham8171]

They that native lenses are much sharper

[@Woodenarrows]

I am in the process now of collecting some gear to sell to KEH. Been using KEH for a few years now...

[@note5camera]

For banding, did you test a smaller part of the sensor? APS-C?

[@Bassbarbie]

I've heard elsewhere that the mechanical shutter is very quiet - it was a problem for the photographer because the model didn't know when to change pose, but it might be useful for some. Does the R5 have the anti flicker option? If so, does it make a difference when using the electronic shutter?

[@jittaratjintasirikul9635]

At 8:16, you compare with different f-stop and discuss the sharpness quality ? 2.8 and 8 is significant different already.

[@electricsheep1963]

Is the banding with the electronic shutter under artifically lights better or worse compared with a Sony A9 ?

[@Nehallad]

Hi, Nice comparison, can you please compare R5 and Nikon Z7. Thanks

[@satishchilakamarri]

sir i need your advice in buying cameras we were looking to upgrade from mid range camera to full frame with in the budget for studio, wedding and other short videos... even though we use shoot both photos and video mostly , a little higher preference for quality photos. one of our senior suggested us to go for mirrorless in canon or sony both for video and photo shoot.. when compared the difference inbetween eos R and eos R5, R6... i observed that the number of focus points varies from camera to camera... where eos R have 5655 focus points 5D mark -vi have 61 focus points and eos R5 have 1053 focus points I dont know how far having more focus points plays key role irrespective of having 15 mega pixel lesser than eos R5 After watching your video is it right to got for eos R rather than going to eos R6 or eos R6 or need to look at Sony a7R IV pls give us your valuable opinion which can help us ...

[@NildoScoop]

Very good and detailed review Tony. 👍